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The Legend of the Camel-Step as told by Steven Masty (via Texpat):

Let us say that you are an Afghan of some importance, a local khan or squire, and someone does the dirty on you. Because it’s Afghanistan, an ancient place full of big families and thus devoid of secrets, everyone gets to know about it.

You cannot afford to ignore the affront for then you appear to be stupid, weak or cowardly and your prestige and influence diminishes accordingly. You could send your retainers to kill your betrayer, but contrary to rumours spread by the British to justify three wars lost, Afghans are rarely bloodthirsty, are normally soft-hearted and cannot even bring themselves to kill a suffering animal. Besides, killing a deserving scoundrel sometimes kicks off a blood-feud of family retribution that can quite easily result in a century or more of reciprocal slaughter – as it did with the tribal Scots a few centuries back. So what to do?

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  1. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Mornin’ Gang

  2. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Mornin’ Gang

  3. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Afghans are rarely bloodthirsty, are normally soft-hearted and cannot even bring themselves to kill a suffering animal.

    Sorry, I can’t believe a word this guy Masty says, why would any normal Westerner live in Kabul? They kill a young herd animal specifically to play Afghan football with its body.

  4. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Afghans are rarely bloodthirsty, are normally soft-hearted and cannot even bring themselves to kill a suffering animal.

    Sorry, I can’t believe a word this guy Masty says, why would any normal Westerner live in Kabul? They kill a young herd animal specifically to play Afghan football with its body.

  5. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Satire, mharper42. Satire.

  6. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    Satire, mharper42. Satire.

  7. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    I thought it was just the head and they cooked up the rest of it for a victory feast.

  8. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I thought it was just the head and they cooked up the rest of it for a victory feast.

  9. Dooood Avatar
    Dooood

    mharper42

    Just read the whole thing before you make any judgment. It’s pretty damned funny.

    Steve Masty lived in Kabul for 14 years running the international charity, CARE, before he was hired as a consultant for economic development by the new government. He divides his time between Kabul and London.

  10. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    mharper42

    Just read the whole thing before you make any judgment. It’s pretty damned funny.

    Steve Masty lived in Kabul for 14 years running the international charity, CARE, before he was hired as a consultant for economic development by the new government. He divides his time between Kabul and London.

  11. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    He writes in a style similar to that of PJ O’Rourke.

  12. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    He writes in a style similar to that of PJ O’Rourke.

  13. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    Protesters in London last week may have poked Prince Charles’ trusty steed Camilla, “Secretariat”, Duchess of Cornwall “with a stick”.

  14. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Protesters in London last week may have poked Prince Charles’ trusty steed Camilla, “Secretariat”, Duchess of Cornwall “with a stick”.

  15. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    I accidentally posted this in Wagonburner’s thread. My apologies, WB:

    Not speaking to the birther issue, my question about this story is:

    Lakin said in the videos that any reasonable person looking at available evidence would have questions about Obama’s eligibility to be president and that he had “no choice” but to disobey orders. Lakin said he would “gladly deploy” if Obama’s original birth certificate were released and proved authentic.
    /snip
    Hawaii law has long barred the release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest.

    If a man is being asked to lay his life on the line on the orders of someone else whose authority he questions, how is this NOT a “tangible interest”? That’s about as tangible as anyone can get, IMHO.

  16. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    I accidentally posted this in Wagonburner’s thread. My apologies, WB:

    Not speaking to the birther issue, my question about this story is:

    Lakin said in the videos that any reasonable person looking at available evidence would have questions about Obama’s eligibility to be president and that he had “no choice” but to disobey orders. Lakin said he would “gladly deploy” if Obama’s original birth certificate were released and proved authentic.
    /snip
    Hawaii law has long barred the release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest.

    If a man is being asked to lay his life on the line on the orders of someone else whose authority he questions, how is this NOT a “tangible interest”? That’s about as tangible as anyone can get, IMHO.

  17. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    I got this in an email from a friend. Makes some good points:

    Letter from Jesus about Christmas —

    It has come to my attention that many of you are upset that folks are taking My name out of the season.

    How I personally feel about this celebration can probably be most easily understood by those of you who have been blessed with children of your own. I don’t care what you call the day. If you want to celebrate My birth, just GET ALONG AND LOVE ONE ANOTHER.

    Now, having said that let Me go on. If it bothers you that the town in which you live doesn’t allow a scene depicting My birth, then just get rid of a couple of Santas and snowmen and put in a small Nativity scene on your own front lawn. If all My followers did that there wouldn’t be any need for such a scene on the town square because there would be many of them all around town.

    Stop worrying about the fact that people are calling the tree a holiday tree, instead of a Christmas tree. It was I who made all trees. You can remember Me anytime you see any tree. Decorate a grape vine if you wish: I actually spoke of that one in a teaching, explaining who I am in relation to you and what each of our tasks were. If you have forgotten that one, look up John 15: 1 – 8.

    If you want to give Me a present in remembrance of My birth here is my wish list. Choose something from it:

    1. Instead of writing protest letters objecting to the way My birthday is being celebrated, write letters of love and hope to soldiers away from home. They are terribly afraid and lonely this time of year. I know, they tell Me all the time.

    2. Visit someone in a nursing home. You don’t have to know them personally. They just need to know that someone cares about them.

    3. Instead of writing the President complaining about the wording on the cards his staff sent out this year, why don’t you write and tell him that you’ll be praying for him and his family this year. Then follow up… It will be nice hearing from you again.

    4. Instead of giving your children a lot of gifts you can’t afford and they don’t need, spend time with them. Tell them the story of My birth, and why I came to live with you down here. Hold them in your arms and remind them that I love them.

    5 Pick someone that has hurt you in the past and forgive him or her.

    6. Did you know that someone in your town will attempt to take their own life this season because they feel so alone and hopeless? Since you don’t know who that person is, try giving everyone you meet a warm smile; it could make the difference.

    7. Instead of nit picking about what the retailer in your town calls the holiday, be patient with the people who work there. Give them a warm smile and a kind word. Even if they aren’t allowed to wish you a “Merry Christmas” that doesn’t keep you from wishing them one. Then stop shopping there on Sunday. If the store didn’t make so much money on that day they’d close and let their employees spend the day at home with their families

    8. If you really want to make a difference, support a missionary– especially one who takes My love and Good News to those who have never heard My name.

    9. Here’s a good one. There are individuals and whole families in your town who not only will have no “Christmas” tree, but neither will they have any presents to give or receive. If you don’t know them, buy some food and a few gifts and give them to the Salvation Army or some other charity which believes in Me and they will make the delivery for you.

    10. Finally, if you want to make a statement about your belief in and loyalty to Me, then behave like a Christian. Don’t do things in secret that you wouldn’t do in My presence. Let people know by your actions that you are one of mine.

    Don’t forget; I am God and can take care of Myself. Just love Me and do what I have told you to do. I’ll take care of all the rest. Check out the list above and get to work; time is short. I’ll help you, but the ball is now in your court. And do have a most blessed Christmas with all those whom you love and remember

    I LOVE YOU,
    JESUS

  18. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    I got this in an email from a friend. Makes some good points:

    Letter from Jesus about Christmas —

    It has come to my attention that many of you are upset that folks are taking My name out of the season.

    How I personally feel about this celebration can probably be most easily understood by those of you who have been blessed with children of your own. I don’t care what you call the day. If you want to celebrate My birth, just GET ALONG AND LOVE ONE ANOTHER.

    Now, having said that let Me go on. If it bothers you that the town in which you live doesn’t allow a scene depicting My birth, then just get rid of a couple of Santas and snowmen and put in a small Nativity scene on your own front lawn. If all My followers did that there wouldn’t be any need for such a scene on the town square because there would be many of them all around town.

    Stop worrying about the fact that people are calling the tree a holiday tree, instead of a Christmas tree. It was I who made all trees. You can remember Me anytime you see any tree. Decorate a grape vine if you wish: I actually spoke of that one in a teaching, explaining who I am in relation to you and what each of our tasks were. If you have forgotten that one, look up John 15: 1 – 8.

    If you want to give Me a present in remembrance of My birth here is my wish list. Choose something from it:

    1. Instead of writing protest letters objecting to the way My birthday is being celebrated, write letters of love and hope to soldiers away from home. They are terribly afraid and lonely this time of year. I know, they tell Me all the time.

    2. Visit someone in a nursing home. You don’t have to know them personally. They just need to know that someone cares about them.

    3. Instead of writing the President complaining about the wording on the cards his staff sent out this year, why don’t you write and tell him that you’ll be praying for him and his family this year. Then follow up… It will be nice hearing from you again.

    4. Instead of giving your children a lot of gifts you can’t afford and they don’t need, spend time with them. Tell them the story of My birth, and why I came to live with you down here. Hold them in your arms and remind them that I love them.

    5 Pick someone that has hurt you in the past and forgive him or her.

    6. Did you know that someone in your town will attempt to take their own life this season because they feel so alone and hopeless? Since you don’t know who that person is, try giving everyone you meet a warm smile; it could make the difference.

    7. Instead of nit picking about what the retailer in your town calls the holiday, be patient with the people who work there. Give them a warm smile and a kind word. Even if they aren’t allowed to wish you a “Merry Christmas” that doesn’t keep you from wishing them one. Then stop shopping there on Sunday. If the store didn’t make so much money on that day they’d close and let their employees spend the day at home with their families

    8. If you really want to make a difference, support a missionary– especially one who takes My love and Good News to those who have never heard My name.

    9. Here’s a good one. There are individuals and whole families in your town who not only will have no “Christmas” tree, but neither will they have any presents to give or receive. If you don’t know them, buy some food and a few gifts and give them to the Salvation Army or some other charity which believes in Me and they will make the delivery for you.

    10. Finally, if you want to make a statement about your belief in and loyalty to Me, then behave like a Christian. Don’t do things in secret that you wouldn’t do in My presence. Let people know by your actions that you are one of mine.

    Don’t forget; I am God and can take care of Myself. Just love Me and do what I have told you to do. I’ll take care of all the rest. Check out the list above and get to work; time is short. I’ll help you, but the ball is now in your court. And do have a most blessed Christmas with all those whom you love and remember

    I LOVE YOU,
    JESUS

  19. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    #8 tedtam
    Dude should get out of serving because he’s a birfer nut, regardless of Obama’s eligibility.

  20. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #8 tedtam
    Dude should get out of serving because he’s a birfer nut, regardless of Obama’s eligibility.

  21. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    #10 WB

    I just don’t understand how the judge can rule that he has no standing – it’s the soldier’s life, for goodness’ sake!

  22. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    #10 WB

    I just don’t understand how the judge can rule that he has no standing – it’s the soldier’s life, for goodness’ sake!

  23. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    I really don’t know what to say about this one.

    That teacher is a dream-stealer, that’s for sure.

  24. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    I really don’t know what to say about this one.

    That teacher is a dream-stealer, that’s for sure.

  25. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Say it isn’t so!

    Kids who once thrilled at sitting on Santa’s lap at the 14th Street McBurney YMCA’s wildly popular annual holiday luncheon will now suffer the icy embrace of a talking snowman and his sidekick, an anonymous penguin, at today’s event.

    Forget about bringing a list or checking it twice — Frosty doesn’t take gift requests, and doesn’t care if you’re naughty or nice.

    Hey Bill, maybe you should consider switching to decaf…

    “Christmas is not about Jack Frost; it’s not about snowmen,” fumed Bill Donohue of the Catholic League. “We’re not talking about some secular organization that has no religious roots. If they can’t celebrate Christmas, then they should check out. What a bunch of cowards.”

  26. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    Say it isn’t so!

    Kids who once thrilled at sitting on Santa’s lap at the 14th Street McBurney YMCA’s wildly popular annual holiday luncheon will now suffer the icy embrace of a talking snowman and his sidekick, an anonymous penguin, at today’s event.

    Forget about bringing a list or checking it twice — Frosty doesn’t take gift requests, and doesn’t care if you’re naughty or nice.

    Hey Bill, maybe you should consider switching to decaf…

    “Christmas is not about Jack Frost; it’s not about snowmen,” fumed Bill Donohue of the Catholic League. “We’re not talking about some secular organization that has no religious roots. If they can’t celebrate Christmas, then they should check out. What a bunch of cowards.”

  27. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    Interesting.

  28. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    Interesting.

  29. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    Ubuntu Geeks: is having the French on board a good or bad thing?

    Of course, saving millions is always a good thing.

  30. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    Ubuntu Geeks: is having the French on board a good or bad thing?

    Of course, saving millions is always a good thing.

  31. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    If a man is being asked to lay his life on the line on the orders of someone else whose authority he questions, how is this NOT a “tangible interest”? That’s about as tangible as anyone can get, IMHO.

    11 Tedtam says:
    December 14, 2010 at 10:37 am

    #10 WB

    I just don’t understand how the judge can rule that he has no standing – it’s the soldier’s life, for goodness’ sake!

    The man is a disgrace to all who ever served in uniform. I never have any sympathy for any of these clowns. All this buddy screwer is doing is avoiding deployment and choosing what he thinks is something that will eventually get him off the hook. As a result, somebody else has to go in his place.

    It is explained to all and sundry who don the uniform just what does and does not constitute a lawful order—and who’s place it is ti make those determinations. In this case, it has already been determined that the order to deploy was lawful. It violates no law of this country.

    That is why he has no standing.

    That, and the fact that he’s a yellow bellied cry baby who stabs his buddies in the back.

  32. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    If a man is being asked to lay his life on the line on the orders of someone else whose authority he questions, how is this NOT a “tangible interest”? That’s about as tangible as anyone can get, IMHO.

    11 Tedtam says:
    December 14, 2010 at 10:37 am

    #10 WB

    I just don’t understand how the judge can rule that he has no standing – it’s the soldier’s life, for goodness’ sake!

    The man is a disgrace to all who ever served in uniform. I never have any sympathy for any of these clowns. All this buddy screwer is doing is avoiding deployment and choosing what he thinks is something that will eventually get him off the hook. As a result, somebody else has to go in his place.

    It is explained to all and sundry who don the uniform just what does and does not constitute a lawful order—and who’s place it is ti make those determinations. In this case, it has already been determined that the order to deploy was lawful. It violates no law of this country.

    That is why he has no standing.

    That, and the fact that he’s a yellow bellied cry baby who stabs his buddies in the back.

  33. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #11 & #16

    As long as there aint a ‘draft’ in effect – enlistees are informed before they commit.

    I’m with Sarge on this one………………..(in best Andy Griffith voice) “Pi ti FUL”

  34. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    #11 & #16

    As long as there aint a ‘draft’ in effect – enlistees are informed before they commit.

    I’m with Sarge on this one………………..(in best Andy Griffith voice) “Pi ti FUL”

  35. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    17 Katfish says:
    December 14, 2010 at 11:34 am

    #11 & #16

    As long as there aint a ‘draft’ in effect – enlistees are informed before they commit.

    Actually, full information is not given before enlistment, but extensive education given on UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice) is given in Basic Training—and its one of the very first things taught. You are beholden to obey all lawful orders.

    and this freaking asshat is an officer, so he would have gotten this training as part of his Officer Education and Leadership Training.

    The only relief I have here is that this freaking whale terd is no longer going to be anywhere near a Leadership position in the near future.

    Here’s the oath I took—and the one this pile of shoe scrapings did:

    “I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.” (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

    The Oath is to the Constitution, and you swear to obey the orders of not only the President, but the officers appointed over you. This means that if the guy above you believes that he is conveying a Lawful Order, you must obey it, unless it is so obviously an unlawful order that a reasonably prudent individual would interpret it as such. Such cases are generally limited to orders to shoot civilians and prisoners, or those that direct you to act in contravention to the Laws of Land Warfare or to disobey the Civilian Command Authority.

    In addition, this putrid pool of offal took this oath, too:

    “I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God.” (DA Form 71, 1 August 1959, for officers.)

    Toss this butt wipe in the back of the jail and roll a rock over him.

  36. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    17 Katfish says:
    December 14, 2010 at 11:34 am

    #11 & #16

    As long as there aint a ‘draft’ in effect – enlistees are informed before they commit.

    Actually, full information is not given before enlistment, but extensive education given on UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice) is given in Basic Training—and its one of the very first things taught. You are beholden to obey all lawful orders.

    and this freaking asshat is an officer, so he would have gotten this training as part of his Officer Education and Leadership Training.

    The only relief I have here is that this freaking whale terd is no longer going to be anywhere near a Leadership position in the near future.

    Here’s the oath I took—and the one this pile of shoe scrapings did:

    “I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.” (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

    The Oath is to the Constitution, and you swear to obey the orders of not only the President, but the officers appointed over you. This means that if the guy above you believes that he is conveying a Lawful Order, you must obey it, unless it is so obviously an unlawful order that a reasonably prudent individual would interpret it as such. Such cases are generally limited to orders to shoot civilians and prisoners, or those that direct you to act in contravention to the Laws of Land Warfare or to disobey the Civilian Command Authority.

    In addition, this putrid pool of offal took this oath, too:

    “I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God.” (DA Form 71, 1 August 1959, for officers.)

    Toss this butt wipe in the back of the jail and roll a rock over him.

  37. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Consider these two statements:

    1. Obama was not born in Hawaii.
    2. Obama shot JFK.

    They have a lot in common.

  38. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    Consider these two statements:

    1. Obama was not born in Hawaii.
    2. Obama shot JFK.

    They have a lot in common.

  39. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    TT #8

    There are not many times that I can say “Sarge is Right!”, but this is one of them.

    An Airman/ Soldier/Sailor/Marine is bound to obey all lawful orders and we really do not
    want to open up this can of worms.

    Lawful orders can be:

    1. Distasteful
    2. Involve a lot of risk to one’s backside
    3. Important to the backsides of everyone on your flanks.

    Personally, I would like to see this bumpkin broken in rank to Private and given some time to perfect his handball game in Levenworth.

    Simple

  40. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    TT #8

    There are not many times that I can say “Sarge is Right!”, but this is one of them.

    An Airman/ Soldier/Sailor/Marine is bound to obey all lawful orders and we really do not
    want to open up this can of worms.

    Lawful orders can be:

    1. Distasteful
    2. Involve a lot of risk to one’s backside
    3. Important to the backsides of everyone on your flanks.

    Personally, I would like to see this bumpkin broken in rank to Private and given some time to perfect his handball game in Levenworth.

    Simple

  41. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    # 3

    Satire.

    Thanks, Hammy. If so, it shot right over my fat blinkered head.

  42. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    # 3

    Satire.

    Thanks, Hammy. If so, it shot right over my fat blinkered head.

  43. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #9 TT

    Thanks for sharing the good advice about Christmas practises and observances. Those are some good ideas for all of us, me included.

  44. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #9 TT

    Thanks for sharing the good advice about Christmas practises and observances. Those are some good ideas for all of us, me included.

  45. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Now that we know what the legal implcations are, lets discuss the practical one.

    The main reason any soldier wants his uniformed brethren, particuklarly his Officers, to obey orders is that letting some terdferbrains decide that he can start interpreting them has a high potential for getting good men killed. In many instances, your very life depends on you following orders you neither understand or agree with, or the guy next to you doing so.

    Its especially so in the case of officers, and more egregious in this instance. The last time officers in this man’s Army decided that they were’nt going to follow the orders of President in Office, they put on grey uniforms and started shooting other Americans in blue ones. A couple hundred thousand Americans died as a result.

    Not a precedent I’m interested in continuing.

  46. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Now that we know what the legal implcations are, lets discuss the practical one.

    The main reason any soldier wants his uniformed brethren, particuklarly his Officers, to obey orders is that letting some terdferbrains decide that he can start interpreting them has a high potential for getting good men killed. In many instances, your very life depends on you following orders you neither understand or agree with, or the guy next to you doing so.

    Its especially so in the case of officers, and more egregious in this instance. The last time officers in this man’s Army decided that they were’nt going to follow the orders of President in Office, they put on grey uniforms and started shooting other Americans in blue ones. A couple hundred thousand Americans died as a result.

    Not a precedent I’m interested in continuing.

  47. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    Okay, okay! I understand now. I was thinking civilian, not military. I was looking not at the whole birther issue, but how the judge could rule that the guy did not have “tangible interest” in the matter.

  48. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    Okay, okay! I understand now. I was thinking civilian, not military. I was looking not at the whole birther issue, but how the judge could rule that the guy did not have “tangible interest” in the matter.

  49. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    24 Tedtam says:
    December 14, 2010 at 12:56 pm
    Okay, okay! I understand now. I was thinking civilian, not military. I was looking not at the whole birther issue, but how the judge could rule that the guy did not have “tangible interest” in the matter.

    Very well.

    You may continue with your other assigned duties.

    I’ll be in the area all day.

  50. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    24 Tedtam says:
    December 14, 2010 at 12:56 pm
    Okay, okay! I understand now. I was thinking civilian, not military. I was looking not at the whole birther issue, but how the judge could rule that the guy did not have “tangible interest” in the matter.

    Very well.

    You may continue with your other assigned duties.

    I’ll be in the area all day.

  51. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    This reminds of someone. rolleyes 🙄

  52. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    This reminds of someone. rolleyes 🙄

  53. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    But I will add this:

    If I had been the Judge in this case, I would have made my ruling thusly:

    “Look, Numbnuts: You’re in the freaking Army. You’re surrounded by huge pieces of equipment that runs at high speed or high voltage and lots of explosives. Most of these, when used as they are designed, can cause considerable pain or destruction. Your only real tangible interest under these conditions is that you don’t do something so stupid that it kills somebody who’s not supposed to die.”

  54. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    But I will add this:

    If I had been the Judge in this case, I would have made my ruling thusly:

    “Look, Numbnuts: You’re in the freaking Army. You’re surrounded by huge pieces of equipment that runs at high speed or high voltage and lots of explosives. Most of these, when used as they are designed, can cause considerable pain or destruction. Your only real tangible interest under these conditions is that you don’t do something so stupid that it kills somebody who’s not supposed to die.”

  55. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    I’m not sure I understand all of this, but I find the basic concept interesting.

    We are all made up of black holes. That ‘splains a lot!

  56. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    I’m not sure I understand all of this, but I find the basic concept interesting.

    We are all made up of black holes. That ‘splains a lot!

  57. El Gordo Avatar
    El Gordo

    Ubuntu Geeks: is having the French on board a good or bad thing?

    Makes perfect sense to me. If I was starting a business today and had no legacy information that absolutely required MS products I would definitely go the Linux route. Nice to see a governmental agency somewhere making a logical decision. A shame it’s not one of ours.

  58. Dude42 Avatar
    Dude42

    Ubuntu Geeks: is having the French on board a good or bad thing?

    Makes perfect sense to me. If I was starting a business today and had no legacy information that absolutely required MS products I would definitely go the Linux route. Nice to see a governmental agency somewhere making a logical decision. A shame it’s not one of ours.

  59. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    We are all made up of black holes

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    Nah—

    Did all them jokes yesterday

  60. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    We are all made up of black holes

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    Nah—

    Did all them jokes yesterday

  61. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Army has new boom stick.

    This is the one that’s going to go to “regular” snipers—that .50 Barret is for Special Ops.

    This is mainly a re-tooling of the old M24, which was chambered in .308. Stats on the new one:

    The Xm2010 upgrades –
    * Rechambering to .300 Winchester Magnum.
    * Rebarreling to a 610 mm (24 in) long, 254 mm (1 in 10 inch) twist rate (5R) hammer-forged free floating barrel.
    * Fitting a new chassis (stock) assembly
    * Fitting a 5-round detachable box magazine.
    * Fitting a quick-attachable/detachable Advanced Armament Corp. sound suppressor with muzzle brake to reduce recoil and jump and audible and visible signature with an available thermal sleeve that reduces mirage effect on heated suppressors.
    * Fitting a Leupold Mark 4 6.5-20x50mm ER/T M5 Front Focal variable power telescopic sight featuring a 34 mm tube diameter, first focal plane Horus Vision grid system range estimation reticle and Bullet Drop Compensation, fielded with the AN/PVS-29 Clip-on Sniper Night Sight.
    * Applying advanced corrosion resistant coatings throughout the system.

    The new scope is a big part of the improvement, but the reach and oomph of a .300 WinMag is probably the biggest improvement.

  62. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Army has new boom stick.

    This is the one that’s going to go to “regular” snipers—that .50 Barret is for Special Ops.

    This is mainly a re-tooling of the old M24, which was chambered in .308. Stats on the new one:

    The Xm2010 upgrades –
    * Rechambering to .300 Winchester Magnum.
    * Rebarreling to a 610 mm (24 in) long, 254 mm (1 in 10 inch) twist rate (5R) hammer-forged free floating barrel.
    * Fitting a new chassis (stock) assembly
    * Fitting a 5-round detachable box magazine.
    * Fitting a quick-attachable/detachable Advanced Armament Corp. sound suppressor with muzzle brake to reduce recoil and jump and audible and visible signature with an available thermal sleeve that reduces mirage effect on heated suppressors.
    * Fitting a Leupold Mark 4 6.5-20x50mm ER/T M5 Front Focal variable power telescopic sight featuring a 34 mm tube diameter, first focal plane Horus Vision grid system range estimation reticle and Bullet Drop Compensation, fielded with the AN/PVS-29 Clip-on Sniper Night Sight.
    * Applying advanced corrosion resistant coatings throughout the system.

    The new scope is a big part of the improvement, but the reach and oomph of a .300 WinMag is probably the biggest improvement.

  63. gtotracker42 Avatar
    gtotracker42

    That is one revved up Remington 700.

  64. gtotracker42 Avatar
    gtotracker42

    That is one revved up Remington 700.

  65. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    I wonder if there’s AA for birds?

  66. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    I wonder if there’s AA for birds?

  67. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    Mayor “Diamond Joe” Quimby of Springfield dies of several self-inflicted gunshot wounds to the back of the head.

  68. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Mayor “Diamond Joe” Quimby of Springfield dies of several self-inflicted gunshot wounds to the back of the head.

  69. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Slip-sliding away
    Slip-sliding away
    You know the nearer your destination
    The more your slip-sliding away

  70. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    Slip-sliding away
    Slip-sliding away
    You know the nearer your destination
    The more your slip-sliding away

  71. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #35 Hamous

    Some of the Swiss seem to agree with Bob: If it hardly ever happens anyway, no reason to have that law on the books.

  72. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #35 Hamous

    Some of the Swiss seem to agree with Bob: If it hardly ever happens anyway, no reason to have that law on the books.

  73. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #36 As I stated over the weekend, I have no problem with laws prohibiting incest, for the very simple reason that they make big government loving social conservative authoritarians feel good about themselves.

    Feel better now?

  74. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    #36 As I stated over the weekend, I have no problem with laws prohibiting incest, for the very simple reason that they make big government loving social conservative authoritarians feel good about themselves.

    Feel better now?

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