Companies are threatening to cut back on the number of employees. Others are planning on reducing hours. Both are in an attempt to avoid the uncertainties with Healthulus.
On top of that, we have the discussions about the so-called fiscal cliff and the whole end of the world thing.
It’s all enough to get to even the normally irrepressible Ronald McDonald.
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Good Grief!!! That picture doesn’t pass the Benzine test,….Bleaching eyeballs.
Mornin’ Gang -
Let It Burn.
I agree. Except I’ll add one thing.
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The always brilliant Dr. Theodore Dalrymple gave an interview to Front Page Magazine in 2005 coinciding with the publication of his book, Our Culture, What’s Left of It: The Mandarins and the Masses.
Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.
HT: Bruce Kesler at Maggie’s Farm
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They’re coming out of the closet now that their lord and savior has been handed the keys to the kingdom with no strings:
New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman has a recurring daydream. In Friedman’s daydream the United States adopts the highly efficient Chinese Communist mode of government under the leadership of “a reasonably enlightened group of people” — such as Friedman finds the Chinese Communists to be. Friedman finds enlightenment among the Chinese Communists in their collective pursuit of “electric cars, solar power, energy efficiency, batteries, nuclear power and wind power.”
GE chairman and chief executive officer Jeffrey Immelt sounds like an acolyte of Friedman, but Immelt at least has the excuse of the cash nexus to pardon his deep thoughts. In a recent interview with Charlie Rose, Immelt lauded the Chinese government along Friedmanite lines. Hey, it works:The one thing that actually works, you know, state run Communism may not be your cup of tea — but their government works.
Yup. It’s just hyperbole when we call these clowns socialists.
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Let It Burn.
I agree.Wait a minute:
1- America isn’t a conservative country anymore and hasn’t been for a while. Yes, you can point to lots of surveys that show people identify themselves as conservatives and they even say government should be doing fewer things.
The fact is, a conservative country doesn’t “accidentally” elect Barack Obama twice. It doesn’t continue to send Democrats to the Senate who voted for ObamaCare and force the GOP to run as the saviors of Medicare.
People want the ever expanding welfare state, they simply don’t want to have to pay for it. They are happy to pretend they can “ask the rich to pay a little more” (it won’t work) or to pile on debt for some generation to be born later to pay for it. What they are very clear about in their votes is…”don’t you dare touch my “free” stuff”.
One foundation of conservatism is to see the world as it is, imperfections and all, and not the way we wish it to be. Unless we can admit the reality of the country we are living in, Let It Burn makes no sense.
If you think we’re just one or two tactical moves and a great candidate away from political victory, you’re not in the Let It Burn camp.This is exactly the argument I was making last week, only you were telling me I was wrong and that it was all the fault of the Republican Establishment. What gives?
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This is exactly the argument I was making last week, only you were telling me I was wrong and that it was all the fault of the Republican Establishment. What gives?
It is the fault of the Republican Establishment, and that is precisely why we need to let it burn:
Its the only way we’re going to get rid of the current Leadership in the Republican Party, and probably the Democrat Party as well.
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Your argument was that we should Let It Burn because that’s what the people want so we should give it to them and let them experience the pain, and that will change things.
My argument is that we should Let It Burn so as to get rid of the Leadership that negotiated a position where Obama either gets everything he wants or just half of what he wants.
Because the People did not vote for this. They voted with their Lady Parts to support Gay Marriage. -
That’s not what Ace is saying. What the post you agree with says is the Republican Establishment exists as it is because the American people want more and bigger government. The Republican Establishment is just a symptom.
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It is the fault of the Republican Establishment, and that is precisely why we need to let it burn:
That is the most bogus copout that can be argued. At one time, in our form of government, the ELECTORATE was responsible for the actions of their elected officials. We did put them there after all. I am against letting it burn as you say because in one form or another that has already been tried. It does not work.
These problems are not going to go away until the root of the problem is addressed and the root of the problem is an electorate that became more interested in stuff and prosperity than keeping a watch for attacks on liberty and freedom. All this pointing of fingers and blaming is just so much self stroking. Make no mistake about it these problems had their Genesis long long long before we were born, Wilson/Roosevelt come to mind. But like the frog in boiling water the electorate did nothing to turn down the fire and now………… -
One of the things that really amazes me is that these people and their pagan, moon god worshiping ways are still extant. Israeli spy vulture captured in Sudan. If they have to resort to lying about obvious migration pattern studies as spying to cover for their own plethora of failures as a civilization, what else are the mooslimes gonna lie about?
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Just my luck. Now that I’ve given up and decided to chase RFU’s for the remainder of the year, you post something substantive for discussion.
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#11 – EG are you just now catching up/on?
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**ONLY the last few seconds is NSFW** (you can avoid the bad language if you STOP before 1:39)
but it’s all pretty danged funny!
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Well, Benzine ain’t here now, is he?
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#10 Bonecrusher
It’s all part of the Zionist conspiracy to co-opt the fowls of the air and the fishes of the sea (remember the killer Zionist sharks a while back?) as part of their master plan.
I expect that the animals that walk the Earth are next – self-navigating camels with recording devices.
This is all in preparation for swarms of hypnotoads.
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It has been burning for some time now. -Daniel James
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And one last thing before i retire back to my cave:
The American people have forgotten just where our liberties and freedom come from.
Y’all have a nice day. I got OBSCENE PROFITS to create and a room addition to work on. -
The proletariat is the undertaker of capitalism. -Marx
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That is the most bogus copout that can be argued. At one time, in our form of government, the ELECTORATE was responsible for the actions of their elected officials. We did put them there after all. I am against letting it burn as you say because in one form or another that has already been tried. It does not work.
The Electorate is not to blame for tarnishing the Republican brand to the extent that now people discount the message—the Republicans are. Its a cop-out by the Republican party to blame the people for this. They are the ones who indulged in crony capitalism rather than Conservative governance. They are the ones who say they are for Small Governemtn and only deliver Smaller Big Government. If you don’t deliver on your promise to be something different than the other guy, don’t blame the Electorate when they notice it.
Today, it no longer matter what is being said, but who is saying it. If its a Republican saying it, they just don;t listen anymore. You cannot make a logical arguement to people who don’t beleive you just because of who you represent. -
After acknowledging that the house of cards is crumbling all around us, the “Libertarians” find something to be thankful for:
That’s a lot of pessimism for one issue (or one year), so let’s end here on a much more optimistic note. The fact is that voters tended to respond positively on the rare occasions when they were given the opportunity to make explicitly libertarian choices. For the first time in history, a ballot initiative ending discrimination against same-sex couples who want to marry passed, not just in one state but in three.
Oh yeah, this will certainly save our republic! The only thing keeping us from returning to our republican roots was redefining the definition of marriage.
Most spectacularly of all, recreational marijuana was at long last legalized on the state level, in Colorado and Washington. This historic development could be the turning point in a drug war that has mangled tens of millions of lives and reduced the freedom of every living American.
Woo hoo! Now we can legally fiddle while Rome burns!
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One of the commenters (maybe a couple of them…) made a couple of good points.
First, is the sequester legislation that Obama keeps saying is unacceptable is legislation that was passed by the (GOP-controlled) House, the (Dem-controlled) Senate, and signed into law by black jesus. That’s as bipartisan as it gets.
Next, name every single piece of legislation black jesus. e.g., The Obama Tax Fairness Act, The 2013 Obama Stimulus Package, The Obama Debt Ceiling Adjustment…
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Woo hoo! Now we can legally fiddle while Rome burns!
And then we can groove on the ashes.
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Obama starting to sound like he’s worried.
At a campaign-style event in Michigan, Obama warned his listeners their taxes will rise on Jan. 1 without action by the Congress. “That’s a hit you can’t afford to take,” he declared.
A few weeks ago, all the libs were busy telling us how prosperous we were with the Clinton tax rates in place.
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Sad how Libertarianism has finally been revealed to be nothing but Libertinism. Also sad to see what Reason.com is endorsing these days.
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Suggested in the comments on the link in #20, we should change our motto from E pluribus unum to EGO mos laetus persolvo vos dies Martis , parumper hamburger hodie.
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Hubby is booked up through the end of the year. Had to run out and meet a customer, who was planning on sending us a check a few days ago. Our proposal required a half-up-front payment. He drove across town to meet me, and gave me a check for the full amount.
We plan on starting his job Tuesday. I start the locates for it today. We’ll pull other permits either today or tomorrow.
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You give the limousine customer your best limousine service, in a rational world. Good work!
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#24 mharper42
Stop harshing my mellow.
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I, for one, welcome our new alien overlords.
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French president campaigns on imposing punitive taxes on high-income people.
Rational people said that those people will pack up and leave.
French president said that they will do their duty to the Republic.
Rational people said “Riiiiiiiiiiiight. I’m sure you know them best.”
Punitive tax rates go into effect.
High-income people move to Belgium (the southern half of which is practically France – so much so that there is an amazing number of rich French people living there).
Government and syncophants thereof cry foul and call them traitors. -
There once was a French population,
Who was fond of high income taxation,
The millionaire fled,
Using his head,
Leaving the French state in a state of vexation.
“Do you not understand?” they are asked,
“The consequences of being so highly taxed?”
The doddering number
Not realizing their blunder,
See socialism is now being axed.
Unable to comprehend their plight,
They curse those who take to flight,
“It isn’t fair!”
They shout in the air,
“To run away with what is our right!”
Too late, they cry in their wine,
Sobbing aloud and they whine,
“So they earned all their money,
It’s not at all funny,
That now I’ll have to work for all mine!” -
My muse made a quick visit this morning.
She’s been quiet for a long time.
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That’s a lot of pessimism for one issue (or one year), so let’s end here on a much more optimistic note. The fact is that voters tended to respond positively on the rare occasions when they were given the opportunity to make explicitly libertarian choices. For the first time in history, a ballot initiative ending discrimination against same-sex couples who want to marry passed, not just in one state but in three.
Oh yeah, this will certainly save our republic! The only thing keeping us from returning to our republican roots was redefining the definition of marriage
That was the argument I was making a couple of days ago: the People responded to the Liberty arguments—-that’s a good thing.
The counterbalance to the Liberty argument is the Moral argument. The Moral Argument failed in this case because of who was making it. Those making that argument were doing so as representatives of a tarnished brand that is beyond all hope of repair. -
#31 – Badda BING!!!!
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HOw come that circly spinny thingie ain’t going away?
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Legalized pot and homosexual marriage didn’t win the election for Bronco or lose the election for RMoney. That’s just silly.
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bribing the low info voter with taxpayer money won the erection for JugEars; as a result the USA got screwed.
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Right, but one (of the many) problems with the GOP is the (often well-deserved) label that they want to control you and meddle in your private life. That was the whole “lady parts” thing in a nutshell.
Like it or not, people respond negatively to most moral arguments, especially from a politician or political party, which are rightly perceived as some of the least moral people/groups around. People are also inconsistent; they will respond negatively to control for “moral” reasons, but will respond positively to control if you give them stuff.
The issue at hand is that it’s too late for the GOP to change its branding to make a positive difference. It’s going to take the left failing to pass out the free stuff because they ran out for people to seriously consider alternatives. That will be the real tipping point – will the people go with the liberty argument, the demagogues, or anarchy? -
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December 11, 2012 at 10:59 am
Legalized pot and homosexual marriage didn’t win the election for Bronco or lose the election for RMoney. That’s just silly.Not in and of itself—not as specific issues.
But as platforms to show Republicans as being mean spirited enemies of Liberty, they worked extremely well. This then set the stage to make the “War on Women” believeable, along with a host of other bogus issues.
It enabled the Democrats to remove from the table the two issues which damaged him the most: the Economy and Obamacare. Romney helped him with removing Obamacare from the table from the start, so it was easier for them to do it than it could have been.
Guys, the Republican brand is tarnished beyond repair. The next Presidential candidate needs to separate himslef from both the Republican Party for its past sins, AND the Democrat party for the sins yet to come.
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The issue at hand is that it’s too late for the GOP to change its branding to make a positive difference.
I agree, but it’s too late for ANY political party to make a positive difference. The American people have spoken loud and clear. We want free stuff and it’s up to you (the politicians) to figure out how to pay for it.
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Well I guess that the union thugs are a little upset; Tempers flare at Capitol with Michigan on brink of right-to-work legislation
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I agree, but it’s too late for ANY political party to make a positive difference. The American people have spoken loud and clear. We want free stuff and it’s up to you (the politicians) to figure out how to pay for it.
They did not.
They voted against Republicans, and responded to Liberty arguments.
There is a very, very, very large difference there.
Republicans have been handing out free stuff for quite a long time. It just can’t be about who gives out free stuff.
John Boehner and the Repuboican controlled House spent more money in the past four years than Nancy Pelosi and the Democrat controlled house did in thier four years.
That’s a LOT of free stuff—but it didn;t make any difference.
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Here’s the problem guys:
We are not only battling Democrats who want to portray Republicans as being mean spirited enemies of Liberty. We’re also battling Republican Establishment types who make money off of these elections whether they win them or not. We represent a very real danger to thier continued prospects of remaining in positions of power and influence so that they can continue to do so.
The only way to save the Nation is to separate ourselves from these parasites. -
They voted against Republicans, and responded to Liberty arguments.
They responded to liberty arguments having to do with the “I wanna do what I wanna do” issues that completely ignore the flip side of liberty, which is taking responsibility for the results of one’s actions.
They want to be able to play baseball in the living room and have mom & dad replace all the broken stuff.The only way to save the Nation is to separate ourselves from these parasites.
No.
The way to save the nation is to teach the parasites that they are responsible for themselves and that it is solely the grace of others that gives them any help whatsoever. -
They responded to liberty arguments having to do with the “I wanna do what I wanna do” issues that completely ignore the flip side of liberty, which is taking responsibility for the results of one’s actions.
They didn’t get the chance to make the comparison because they became convinced that those who were making the Moral Argument shouldn’t be listened to because of who was making it. The only people truly responsible for that are the ones who’s performance on promises was practically non-existent. When you win a poltical victory delivered to you by people who wish to see government and spending reduced and you deliver more government and spending than those whom you replaced, you credibility does suffer—and suffers a very great deal.
That trend started with Bush and excellerated under Boehner.
Why should anybody listen to Republicans anymore?
Really—can you answer that question in such a manner that bears positively on Republicans in the face of what they have delivered in the past 20 years?
The Democrats are at least delivering on thier promises.
The choice the People have been given has been between the guys that gives them free stuf and the guys that give them more free stuff. Faced with such a choice, I know whjich one I’d make—if I was unaware of the consequences and had become convinced that those warning me of those consequences don’t deliver on thier promises anyway. -
Gay theory is ready to be proven.
Long thought to have some sort of hereditary link, a group of scientists suggested Tuesday that homosexuality is linked to epi-marks — extra layers of information that control how certain genes are expressed. These epi-marks are usually, but not always, “erased” between generations. In homosexuals, these epi-marks aren’t erased — they’re passed from father-to-daughter or mother-to-son, explains William Rice, an evolutionary biologist at the University of California Santa Barbara and lead author of the study.
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Rice and his team created a mathematical model that explains why homosexuality is passed through epi-marks, not genetics. Evolutionarily speaking, if homosexuality was solely a genetic trait, scientists would expect the trait to eventually disappear because homosexuals wouldn’t be expected to reproduce. But because these epi-marks provide an evolutionary advantage for the parents of homosexuals: They protect fathers of homosexuals from underexposure to testosterone and mothers of homosexuals from overexposure to testosterone while they are in gestation.
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“There’s more verification needed, but we point out how we can easily do epigenetic profiles genome-wide. We predict where the epi-marks occur, we just need other studies to look at it empirically. This can be tested and proven within six months. It’s easy to test. If it’s a bad idea, we can throw it away in short order.”Boy, I wonder how this information will go over? Will it make a difference? Will it result in more homosexual aggression? Increase in liberalization of homosexual law? Less? Big in politics? Or big yawn?
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They did not.
Yes, they did.
They voted against Republicans, and responded to Liberty arguments.
There is a very, very, very large difference there.No, they didn’t. Republicans are still in control of the House. Democrats are still in control of the Senate and White House. So states that weren’t going to vote Republican anyway voted to legalize pot and allow same-sex marriage and the state that elected Jesse “The Body” Ventura as governor and Stuart Smalley as Senator didn’t pass a marriage amendment. There is no refutation of Republicans in that.
Sarge – you seem to be under the impression that I’m arguing in favor of the Republican Party. I am not. Remember, I burned my voter ID. I’m with Ace. Let it burn. Let it all burn. -
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If Conservatives cxontinuento allow the Republican Party to get out the Conservatve message they are fools.
The brand is tarnished beyond all repair and Republicans don’t believe it anyway.
Both Wisconsin and Michigan elected Reopublican Leglislatures, too. Both are working to limit the power of Unions and are getting support from the People.
That is not the people voting in favor of Socialism. Quite the opposite.Republicans are still in control of the House. Democrats are still in control of the Senate and White House.
And the reason for that is, despite an economic atmosphere that should have resulted in wide Republican victories, people voted against them. That’s not because one side offers free stuff and the other does not—BOTH sides are offering free stuff. The only variables are the issues mentioned.
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Libertarians have been making the same argument you’re making for 40 years. Ask Presidents John Hospers, Roger MacBride, Ed Clark, David Bergland, Ron Paul, Andre Marrou, Harry Browne, Michael Badnarick, Bob Barr, and Gary Johnson how that’s worked out.
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And the reason for that is, despite an economic atmosphere that should have resulted in wide Republican victories, people voted against them.
Republicans maintained control of the House because people voted against them? I don’t get it. Look, you said it yourself. Democrats promised more free stuff so Democrats kept the senate and White House. It ain’t rocket science.
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This was an election where everything should have changed and it did not.
That’s because neither party changed.
Both are handing out free stuff, both spend like drunken sailors, both engage in crony capitalism, both increase the size of government, and both candidates supported some form of Socialized Medecine.
There was no choice of “free stuff or no free stuff” given.
It is therefore erroneous and illogical to say that the Electorate voted for free stuff.
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Republicans maintained control of the House because people voted against them? I don’t get it. Look, you said it yourself. Democrats promised more free stuff so Democrats kept the senate and White House. It ain’t rocket science
They should have picked up seats. You yourself has said that there’s been no change.
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If there has been no change, there is therfore no vote of preference.
No change means the free stuff continues.
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If the Electorate preferred free stuff over no free stuff, the Democrats would have won control over the House and expanded control of the Senate to a veto proof majority.
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For a guy who says he blames the Republicans, too, you sure do make a lot of arguments against the concept that the party needs to be burned down.
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For a guy who says he blames the Republicans, too, you sure do make a lot of arguments against the concept that the party needs to be burned down.
Alright, where in the hell are you possibly gleaning that pearl of wisdom from anything I’ve said??? I said IT ALL needs to be burned down. You continue to forward the notion that all blame lies entirely at the feet of the Republican Party. My contention is it is the American voter.
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Look! The sun is out!
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Californians moving to Texas.
Just leave your voting record in California. And leave your high-regulation desires. And leave your bleeding-heart leanings. Don’t bring that crap with you and screw up the reason you’re moving here. -
#50 Hammie: Ya mos tagot Lyndon Larouche.
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Ya mos tagot Lyndon Larouche.
He wasn’t a Libertarian. He’s a Democrat.
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He’s also a felon, but I repeat myself.
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Alright, where in the hell are you possibly gleaning that pearl of wisdom from anything I’ve said???
You leave the Party blameless and scoff at the notion that there is such a thing as an “Establishment” that needs to be removed from power.
I said IT ALL needs to be burned down. You continue to forward the notion that all blame lies entirely at the feet of the Republican Party. My contention is it is the American voter.
It does.
The Party gives out free stuff as much, of not moreso than the other guy. Then, when they lose, they blame it on people who want free stuff.
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Romney ran on protecting Medicare fom the Democrats and replacing Obamacare with something different.
Then, when he loses, Republicans say that his loss means the Electorate is overwhelmingly in favor of free stuff.
What, exactly, was the free stuff Romney was against?
Which, exactly, free stuff was taken away from them by the Republican House?
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He wasn’t a Libertarian. He’s a Democrat.
and a kook
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Did you even read the Ace article you linked to this morning? You know, the one you said you agree with.
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#64 Sarge
Obamaphones. Getting stuff without personal responsibility.
Furthermore, he was labeled as someone who would let the rich get richer/not tax the rich more, thereby leaving less free stuff to dole out to those who are unwilling to actually go out and earn their own stuff. -
66 Hamous says:
December 11, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Did you even read the Ace article you linked to this morning? You know, the one you said you agree with.I disagree with the notion that there was a preference for free stuff expressed. I should have been clear on that.
67 wagonburner says:
December 11, 2012 at 1:49 pm
#64 Sarge
Obamaphones. Getting stuff without personal responsibility.You mean the program that was begun under a Republican President (something that was pointed out by the other side ad infinitum)? Which candidate offered a policy proposal to do away with the program? I saw none. All I saw was a bunch of people who weren;t running for office decry the program.
Furthermore, he was labeled as someone who would let the rich get richer/not tax the rich more, thereby leaving less free stuff to dole out to those who are unwilling to actually go out and earn their own stuff.
There was no argument advanced by the other side referring to “leaving less free stuff to dole out”. The argument advanced by the other side was one that purportedly advanced the issue as a matter of fairness, not revenue.
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This notion that the election was the Electorat preferring Democrats because they give out free stuff and the Republicans do not is absolute poppycock. Anyone paying attention for the last twenty years knows that Republicans are just as much in favor of giving out free stuff as Democrats are—and they have been doing just that.
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Sarge,
With all due respect:We are not only battling Democrats who want to portray Republicans as being mean spirited enemies of Liberty. We’re also battling Republican Establishment types who make money off of these elections whether they win them or not. We represent a very real danger to thier continued prospects of remaining in positions of power and influence so that they can continue to do so.
There are indeed Republican leaders who are imbedded within the system. And, they tend to look very much like their Democrat counterparts. This is because they perceive that voters respond to politicians who offer them free stuff.
As a further observation, don’t forget that the average voter only sees what the mainstream media shows them. And, as we all know, the mainstream media is completely sold out to the liberal/Democrat worldview. The mainstream media will never see a bad Democrat – no matter how corrupt, venal, or felonious. The mainstream media will never see a “good” Republican except when he begins to resemble a Democrat.
Alternate media are helpful, but are still really limited in impact.
Also, don’t discount the ability of the average voter to ignore facts and reality. They don’t know history, they can’t do basic math, and worst of all they can’t think. Appealing to them with reason just ain’t gonna work.
You can claim that the problem is a Republican establishment that refuses to differentiate itself from the Democrat establishment, but the fact is that they both offer the same things because that’s what the public is buying. In the end it’s still the public that casts the votes and frankly I’m skeptical about assertions that conservatives have the majority.
You and Hamous are right – it’s gonna all have to burn, but I’m not sanguine about what will rise from the ashes. We, as a nation, have squandered our birthright for a mess of materialistic pottage. -
You can claim that the problem is a Republican establishment that refuses to differentiate itself from the Democrat establishment, but the fact is that they both offer the same things because that’s what the public is buying. In the end it’s still the public that casts the votes and frankly I’m skeptical about assertions that conservatives have the majority.
If the only two pie shops in town only offer blueberry and apple pie, it cannot be logically claimed that thier clientel does not prefer pumpkin pie, especially when the last time pumpkin pie was offered by one of the pie shops, it beat the sales of the other one.
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When’s the last time the electorate showed a hankering for punkin pie?
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If the only two pie shops in town only offer blueberry and apple pie, it cannot be logically claimed that thier clientel does not prefer pumpkin pie, especially when the last time pumpkin pie was offered by one of the pie shops, it beat the sales of the other one.
And if the clientele, aka the electorate, does not tell or do something about the pie shop, aka “R”s, then they are gonna keep gettin what is for sale. At the end of the day the PROBLEM is the electorate. Or have you not read the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence that clearly spells out that (in the olden days) that the elected derive their power from the governed? Our ELECTED representatives will only rise to level the electorate expects of them. There is a lot of truth in that old saw that says (paraphrasing here) we are in deep doodoo when the electorate is more afraid of the elected than the elected is afraid of the electorate.
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And if the clientele, aka the electorate, does not tell or do something about the pie shop, aka “R”s, then they are gonna keep gettin what is for sale.
I will suggest that in 2010 the electorate expressed a very emphatic preference for pumpkin pie.
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And there will soon come a day when my words will be cause for arrest for sedition or treason for that matter. Where is the outrage from the electorate that a half arsed film maker accepts a year in jail for making a moobie that supposedly sparked a riot in another country? Yeah yeah I know he supposedly allegedly broke probation rules or some such..
I am beginning to think Daniel James was onto something. He just did not have the tact and diplomacy to express himself without appearing like a complete fool or urinating off the other blog precipitants. -
And look at how many from Bonerco survived again in 2012 Sarge. We keep electing the same idgits over and over again. the new guys ain’t got the strength to fight them clowns. Where is the outrage aimed squarely at Boehner for giving away the farm? The silence is deafening. And don’t give me this crap that many were not up for re-election. Many were.
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And look at how many from Bonerco survived again in 2012 Sarge. We keep electing the same idgits over and over again
The Republican Party keeps protecting Blueberry and Apple Pie makers and punishing those who make Pumpkin Pie.
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I posit that the electorate in 2010 woke up, decided it didn’t like Healthulus and stomped its feet. Some elected people paid attention; others yawned and moved on to other things.
In 2012, the portion of the electorate that supposedly wanted punkin pie actually was saying it wanted pecan, rhubarb, punkin, lemon, chocolate, apple, and cherry. The pie shop only had capacity to make one kind of pie and most of the pie aficionados chose apple. Some of the people liked apple, too. Others didn’t like it enough to actually go out and buy a pie. -
And don’t give me this crap that many were not up for re-election.
100% of the US House was up for election. Most are in seats where the incumbents can’t be blasted out with a nukuler weapon.
That is a result of the idiotic way districts are drawn. If more were made to be competitive, politics would be much less divided and things would naturally begin to work better. -
If the pie shop can only make one kind of pie, it needs to be burned to the ground and a new one built out of the ashes that serves pecan, rhubarb, punkin, lemon, chocolate, apple, and cherry.
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One positive thing…
Democrat control of state governments is at a multiple-decade low.
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#81 sarge
Can’t be done. Only one pie makes it past the market study.
What you’re asking for is one that tastes like pecan to those who like pecan, apple to those who like apple, etc. Romney was thought by many to be that kind of pie.
Turned out he was either not apple, pecan, rhubarb, etc. enough and/or the pie ended up like somethinng that the kids made by blending pecans, rhubarb, apple, lemon, chocolate, & cherry together. IOW barf in a crust. -
I will suggest that in 2010 the electorate expressed a very emphatic preference for pumpkin pie.
And in 2012 they voted for blueberry pie again. They’re schizophrenic.
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#81 sarge
Can’t be done. Only one pie makes it past the market study.Except that the guys getting rich off of market studies get rich whether they are right or not, and some of them work for apple pie makers.
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I will suggest that in 2010 the electorate expressed a very emphatic preference for pumpkin pie.
Another alternative is they expressed a preference for something besides apple & blueberry.
Which was interpreted by some as punkin.
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And in 2012 they voted for blueberry pie again. They’re schizophrenic.
Again:
Which policy proposal did Romney advance that amounted to taking away free stuff?
Which spending reductions did Republicans make in the two previous years for which they were subsequently punished for?
Which Republican Senate Candidates lost because of thier Fiscal conservatism and threats to take away free stuff?
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Another alternative is they expressed a preference for something besides apple & blueberry.
Which was interpreted by some as punkin.
And by others as rhubarb, cherry, etc.Why is it that the interpretation always seems to be one that ends up protecting the Republican Establishment from blame?
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I am beginning to think Daniel James was onto something.
While I now agree with DJ’s assessment that the “Let it burn” method is the only choice, we part company on what got us in this mess to begin with. Daniel, Alex Jones, and apparently now Sarge, believe it’s a vast conspiracy (NWO by the first two, the Republican Establishment by the latter), whereas I slide down Occam’s Razor (and into a vat of alcohol). We got the government we asked for and therefore we got the government we deserve.
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Except that the guys getting rich off of market studies get rich whether they are right or not, and some of them work for apple pie makers.
And?
This doesn’t lessen the fact that the discriminating pie enthusiast will only buy one pie and ignore the others or at most choose one of them if they can’t find a cake. -
Why is it that the interpretation always seems to be one that ends up protecting the Republican Establishment from blame?
I’m not protecting anyone. I am merely stating what happened.
I’m for developing a new pie that will take the dessert market by storm. -
There are 30 Republican governors and the control of state legislatures and state-wide elective offices is at the highest level since 1952.
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Yeah, I’m still trying to figure out how my “burn the entire house of cards down” is interpreted as “leaving the Party blameless”.
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Man, I suddenly have a craving for Dutch apple pie.
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#93 hamous
Because you’re a hater.
btw – What’s the difference between Dutch apple pie and “regular” apple pie?
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While I now agree with DJ’s assessment that the “Let it burn” method is the only choice, we part company on what got us in this mess to begin with. Daniel, Alex Jones, and apparently now Sarge, believe it’s a vast conspiracy
Please don’t put words in my mouth or try to win the argument by lumping me in with nutcases. That’s just “too Republican” for me. Its what Republicans start doing when their feet get held to the fire. The reasoning goes that anybody who does not go along with the leadership, or who opposes them, are crazy—especially when the argument starts going against them.
The Republican Party rewards all the wrong people for all the wrong things. People are running campaigns using the same logic and rhetoric that has lost them elections time and time again, and they grow rich off of it. It is top heavy and resistant to change, and that’s because of the money being made by those who make money off of poltics without ever taking office. -
92 Texpat says:
December 11, 2012 at 3:02 pm
There are 30 Republican governors and the control of state legislatures and state-wide elective offices is at the highest level since 1952.Which does argue against the “We lost because we weren’t giving out a bunch of free stuff.” argument.
Unless, of course, in a fit of Cognitive Dissonance one claims that those Republicans were rewarded for giving free stuff out.
Which then means that nobody was given a choice between free stuff and no free stuff.
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The Republican Party rewards all the wrong people for all the wrong things. People are running campaigns using the same logic and rhetoric that has lost them elections time and time again, and they grow rich off of it. It is top heavy and resistant to change, and that’s because of the money being made by those who make money off of poltics without ever taking office.
It’s more that the squish wins the primary, especially on the national level, because what’s liberal here is pretty conservative in La Nouvelle Angleterre. Individual states are much more homogeneous and that is why the message that is more conservative tends to do better.
Liberals attract the lefty True Believers, fellow travelers, do-gooders, libertines, and those who depend on the largesse of others. -
It’s more that the squish wins the primary, especially on the national level, because what’s liberal here is pretty conservative in La Nouvelle Angleterre. Individual states are much more homogeneous and that is why the message that is more conservative tends to do better.
What, exactly, does the Republican Senate and House Campaign Committees do?
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Please don’t put words in my mouth or try to win the argument by lumping me in with nutcases. That’s just “too Republican” for me. Its what Republicans start doing when their feet get held to the fire.
Please don’t partially quote me, leaving out the part where I deliberately distinguished you from the nutcases.
And please quit trying to paint me as “Republican” when every thing I’ve said belies that characterization. -
Bunsonburner
100% of the US House was up for election. Most are in seats where the incumbents can’t be blasted out with a nukuler weapon.
That is a result of the idiotic way districts are drawn. If more were made to be competitive, politics would be much less divided and things would naturally begin to work better.Yes and no. Yes districting has a lot to do with it, HOWEVER the root of the problem is the ELECTORATE pure and simple. We have a disengaged electorate that thinks moral value voters etc are troglodytes. When you look at the elctoral map take a real close look at where the population centers are and then do an electoral college count from that.
John Adams was spot on when he saidOur Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
People that take that argument to the masses would be laughed off the stage. However, this was not always so. And it weren’t that long ago either. BTW when was the last time you heard the argument about pending legislation being Constitutional or not. When i have engaged in that very argument on LST the replies to my argument ranged from “but you do not understand” to “but getting things done requires compromise”. Oh really? Therefore the constitution means nothing. And these arguments against me were with so called “conservatives”. If the electorate did not demand the simple principle of following that document to guide us then how the hell can we expect our legislators to follow those principles.
George Washington himself would be be taken away in a straight jacket for this comment.“The power under the constitution will always be in the people. It is intrusted for certain defined purposes, and for a certain limited period, to representatives of their own choosing; and, whenever it is executed contrary to their interest, or not agreeable to their wishes, their servants can and undoubtedly will be recalled.”
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btw – What’s the difference between Dutch apple pie and “regular” apple pie?
Streusel topping.
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#99 sarge
Get Republicans (or Democrats) elected; they are not the “Conservative” Campaign Committee or the “Guys Sarge Likes” Campaign Committee. They may attempt to influence primaries, but they are more focused on the general elections. They also tend to be heavily biased toward incumbents. Much of their funding comes from current members, so it is considered bad form to use someone’s contributions against them.
Once anyone is elected, they tend to become part of the establishment. If they don’t, they tend to be marginalized (paging Dr Nor…). To get decent committee assignments or get their pet legislative initiatives advanced, they have to play ball. It’s politics; it’s the way it works. -
#99 sarge
Get Republicans (or Democrats) elected; they are not the “Conservative” Campaign Committee or the “Guys Sarge Likes” Campaign Committee. They may attempt to influence primaries, but they are more focused on the general elections. They also tend to be heavily biased toward incumbents. Much of their funding comes from current members, so it is considered bad form to use someone’s contributions against them.And as long as we hold them blameless for thier choices, they will continue to make the wrong ones.
Unless, of course, you are saying that they are choosing people who make policy proposals and pass them that reduces spending and enhances Liberty and that’s why they won.—but I would say that such is not the case.
Which does argue against the “we lost because we’re the Party that doesn’t give out free stuff.” -
What no mince meat pie!!!!!
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Burning down just the Republican Party won’t fix a damn thing except lead to a new My Pretty Pony Party that promises to love you and keep you company and give you more better free stuff than those mean old Democrat/Republican Parties ever gave you. No pain, no gain.
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#104 Hey, that looks like O.E. Hamster’s ocularly superior brother.
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And as long as we hold them blameless for thier choices, they will continue to make the wrong ones.
Unless, of course, you are saying that they are choosing people who make policy proposals and pass them that reduces spending and enhances Liberty and that’s why they won.—but I would say that such is not the case.I’m saying that they work to get the winner of the primary elected. No more than that.
If you are unhappy with who they help elect, then work harder to get guys you do like to win the primaries. Then the Republican Campaign Committees will help elect them. -
I will let someone else “caption” this one. I don’t wanna get banned today. Next week maybe but not today.
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Burning down just the Republican Party won’t fix a damn thing except lead to a new My Pretty Pony Party that promises to love you and keep you company and give you more better free stuff than those mean old Democrat/Republican Parties ever gave you. No pain, no gain.
That’s the kind of thing that the Whigs said in 1856.
and it flies in the face of the justifications others are making here that we have to excuse the party for picking candidates who give people free stuff because that’s what people want.
The Republican Party is currently making the argument that they need to be the party that promises to love you and keep you company and give you more better free stuff than those mean old Democrat, so there’s no need for any new party to fill that role. And they are taking steps to reduce the power of anyone in the Party who doesn’t go along with it.
The only role that’s not being filled in politics today is a party that actually delivers on cutting spending, enhancing Liberty by reducing the size of government, and cutting out free stuff. If the Republicans keep arguing that they lost because they weren’t giving out enough free stuff, that only means that they are going to start giving out even more free stuff than they have been.
I don;t want to have anything to do with such a party—-because i don;t thin k it will win any elections in competition with Democrats. -
Some days I feel like a teepee, some days I feel like a wigwam.
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If you are unhappy with who they help elect, then work harder to get guys you do like to win the primaries. Then the Republican Campaign Committees will help elect them.
I did that.
A lot of Republicans called me and others like me nasty names, claimed we were a nut cases, even anti-semites, then started making excuses like “we lost because we aren’t giving away enough free stuff.” when we all know that simply isn’t true. -
That’s the kind of thing that the Whigs said in 1856.
The Whigs didn’t burn. They became the My Pretty Pony Party of the 19th century, aka Republicans.
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A lot of Republicans called me and others like me nasty names, claimed we were a nut cases, even anti-semites, then started making excuses like “we lost because we aren’t giving away enough free stuff.” when we all know that simply isn’t true.
Wulp ya just put your brogans right in your mouth. Twernt the elected now was it? It was the electorate fools that worked for wannabe candidates. Sure sounds like to me the problem you experienced is with the electorate. I’m outsa here and thanks for illustrating mine and Hammie’s point.
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That’s the kind of thing that the Whigs said in 1856.
Notice hamous said “just the Republican Party”.
The entire system is broken. When you have a political system in which the majority rams through society-changing legislation with no input from the minority, then the minority threatens civil unrest because of it, then the whole system needs a radical overhaul.
This is not a Whigs vs Republicans or even a Republican vs Democrat or even one of the loon third parties vs the twopardeedooopoly thing.
It is a political class/”elitist” vs citizenry thing, which is what our resident crusty curmudgeon (** coff ** squack ** coff **) seems to be getting at. -
The Whigs didn’t burn. They became the My Pretty Pony Party of the 19th century, aka Republicans.
The Whigs burned because they ignored and maligned a significant constituancy of thier party by continuing to kick thier central issue down the road every time they had the chance to actually address it regardless of any percieved cost.
That constituancy went on to elect a President four years after it formed a new Party which governed the nation for the next generation, and significant chunks of the next several.
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The entire system is broken. When you have a political system in which the majority rams through society-changing legislation with no input from the minority, then the minority threatens civil unrest because of it, then the whole system needs a radical overhaul.
All the more reason to burn it down and build from the ashes.
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Right.
But you’ve been talking about Republicans only. I posit that that won’t work until the rest of the political class also falls out of favor sufficiently to slap some sense into the 40%+ of the electorate who are the ones who have always voted for the party that passes out free stuff, regardless of whether that was explicitly stated/known at the time of those past elections. -
Ashes don’t make very good building material. Last I checked Rome still ain’t revived.
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Bush arrested for misuse of a government credit card and attempting to import explosives.
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In fact I do not recall any nation but one that has been destroyed ever come into being again.
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Bunsonburner #126 made me look.
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In fact I do not recall any nation but one that has been destroyed ever come into being again.
I think that’s the nature of our species. Don’t get me wrong. Our nation will survive. It just won’t be in a form our founders would have imagined. We’ll survive just like England, France, Germany, Russia, China, and all the others. We just won’t be the land of the free.
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But you’ve been talking about Republicans only. I posit that that won’t work until the rest of the political class also falls out of favor sufficiently to slap some sense into the 40%+ of the electorate who are the ones who have always voted for the party that passes out free stuff, regardless of whether that was explicitly stated/known at the time of those past elections.
So you’re saying that both parties are beyond changing.
Burn one down. Pick one. Replace it with something different from what it is now.
You only need to do one to give the People an actual choice. -
Sarge,
You can burn the Republican Party down to it’s constituent atoms, wiss on the ashes, bury them and dance on the grave and it won’t fix the underlying problems.
We will still have a mainstream mass media that is ideologically chained to the Democrat point of view. And, I might add, firmly committed to delivering entertainment products that are designed to numb and destroy active brain cells.
We will still have a public education system that, for the most part, firmly refuses to actually teach students anything useful, while carefully installing a leftwing, socialist worldview that rejects traditional values and stresses reliance on the government.
We will still have an electorate that, at least nationally, looks to the Federal Government as the answer to all problems, both small and large. Hurricane destroy your town? Call the Feds! Fire ravage your county? Call the Feds. Lose your job? Call the Feds! Need to trade in your clunker for a new car? Call the Feds! Need a new cell phone, rent for your apartment, gas for your car? Just call the Feds!
In short, the problems we face are deep seated and wide spread. They have been growing for decades and their roots are, in many cases, spiritual and epistemological. Simply blaming the Republican party, or its leaders and operatives, is like blaming WW One on the murder of Arch Duke Ferdinand.
If you simply replace the Republican party with another party you will find that as Roger Daltry put it: “Meet the new boss – same as the old boss.” -
I’m saying that both parties are a cancer on our society and like a tumor, allowing either to survive will only poison the rest of the body.
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I’m saying that both parties are a cancer on our society and like a tumor, allowing either to survive will only poison the rest of the body.
The parties are nothing more than a mirror image of the electorate.
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So what do we do Fats?
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So what do we do Fats?
There is only one power that can change the destiny that we have before us and that is God. i would strongly suggest prayer and lots of it, cause only he can change the hearts and minds of the electorate. All this flapping of gums has accomplished nothing, nada, zip.
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Amen.
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You know those gold coin commercials where you can buy the $50 coin for $19.99 (strict limit of five coins)? Clad in 14 milligrams of pure 24 carat gold? Based on today’s gold price that amounts to 84 cents worth of gold.
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Squawk is right.
From a more earthly perspective, I’m not sure. I would expect a Balkanization of the US, except that the fracture lines aren’t geographical, but ideological. Nevertheless, secession may actually play a factor. I do know this, the solution (if there is one) is going to be multi-generational
I believe that the only thing we can do (aside from lots and lots of prayer) is to focus on local and possibly state elections. As Texpat has pointed out, we’re doing much better on those levels. Start with local and state school boards. Education is a core problem. It doesn’t matter what you call the party, Republican, Teaparty, Whigs, you pick a name.
We also have to restore the traditional family as the foundation of society. How? I’m not sure. But if we don’t we will cease to exist as a nation. -
#128 – me TOO!
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Small break from polyticks for a moment, I’d like to put in a plug for my retired Marine buddy from Toledo who is getting his BBQ sauce and rub business going:
Eat, eat, and be merry!
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only He can change the hearts and minds of the electorate
Sheer Profundity Squawkster!
I’ll remind the couchsters of Texpat’s previous offering from Albert Nock circa 1936 – easily one of the most powerful bits of reading this ole Texan has ever encountered……..
Isaiah’s Job -
Anyone see the UAW thugs turn to violence to thwart their fellow citizens’ right to work? Democrats are promising “blood on the streets” and “civil war”.
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only he can change the hearts and minds of the electorate
Although those in positions of power may believe in Colson’s Urological Admonition:
“When you’ve got them by the [testicules], their hearts and minds will follow.” -
#137 hamous
I see what you’re doing.
You’re trying to scare everyone off so’s you can score those sweet deals all for yourself.
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140, Dude,
I love barbecue and especially the kind you can buy from the screened shacks on the Texas backroads. Hot BBQ and Cold Beer…..Now that is Texas!! The cheap simple pleasures are really the best. All of you should take some time to visit some of those backroad places before they vanish.
I hope your friend does well. We Marines need to stick together, besides I think the home BBQ business is going to boom.
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#142 Hamous, YUP; Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan.
Yanno’ I thought that it was us mean ole right wingers that were the haters!
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I see where Crowder, the punchee, has declared that the puncher can fight with him one on one, with all funds raised to go to a charity. There’s a small bounty of a little over $2,000 for information helping to locate the said union loozer. Crowder has said that money can go to a union of the loozer’s choice. If the loozer decides to pass on the fight – where the unionist can set the rules (wrestling, etc.) – then he may be prosecuted, to possibly (not holding my breath) go to jail.
Of course, Crowder is well-versed in martial arts. Crowder could have beaten the crap outta the guy right then and there, but the took the punches and backed off, with his hands in the air, only to be hauled from the back of of his collar back into the crowd for more physical punishment. And even after that, he still didn’t beat the crap out of anyone. Crowder was the picture of restraint.
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tedtam #147
Just shared this over on your FB page. You asked and by golly your answer!!FROM:
Conservative Lady on FB
The union thug is….an Cap Vlietstra Updated: It’s Tony Carmago. IBEW Local 876. They have a facebook page. Leave a comment – many are.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/IBEW-Local-876/270466413070445 -
In case this was not already posted (apologies if it was):
Crowder gave an ultimatum to the man who punched him in the face: come forward and face jail time or face him in a mixed martial arts (MMA) match.
HA!!! I love it!!!
Crowder gives me goose pimply tingles up my leg. That’s not bad, is it?
Crowder Challenges Union Attacker: Jail Time or MMA Fight
And there’s also this to note:Michigan Governor Rick Snyder signed the right-to-work bills into law on Tuesday.
Yet more unconventional knowledge getting tossed out the window only this time in a good direction. Sometimes the only way to get a drunk to sober up is to let him hit rock bottom on his own and only then will he finally see the hand of friendship and help you’ve had extended towards him the whole time. (Say, this has Christian spiritual overtones, doesn’t it, hmmmm… 🙂 )
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TT #147;
DOH!!!Crowder could have beaten the crap outta the guy right then and there, but the took the punches and backed off, with his hands in the air, only to be hauled from the back of of his collar back into the crowd for more physical punishment. And even after that, he still didn’t beat the crap out of anyone. Crowder was the picture of restraint.
Yes, he was very restraint abnd not only that but, while not guaranteed as an indication of self defense training, after seeing the attack video I noticed the calm and precise way he blocked the roundhouse punches the union guy threw at him was right along the lines of simple guard position I first noticed former MMA champ BJ Penn employ during his fights. It’s a simply lifting of the hand to the side of your head which absorbs the shock and force of the punches thrown at you. It protects the head quite effectively.
Watch the vid. Right about the 44 second mark Crowder gets into defense position and the way he raised his hands and the stance indicated to me some training. In the octogan, Crowder will knock that uncoordinating, unbalanced fat slob on his butt in no time.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/raw-footage-captures-union-activists-punching-attacking-conservative-writer/
(LOL, the union dude opposes right to work because it allows people to freeload from the work the union did? Hmmmm, note to Obama 😉 ) -
Super Dave #146;
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Hamous #142;
Oh, come on, violent rhetoric only comes from the Right.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/04/16/maher-democrats-didnt-use-any-violent-rhetoric-towards-republicans-du
And…
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2011/10/13/bill_maher_to_occupy_mob_it_might_be_time_to_get_violent -
fat albert #138;
We also have to restore the traditional family as the foundation of society. How? I’m not sure. But if we don’t we will cease to exist as a nation.
Amen to said restoration. How it’s doner is patientally and persistantly. We as parents should *always* encourage, teach, guide, and direct our children to start their own families and to be faithful to them. As for legislation, it is sooooo far down the road of government erasing distinction between families and non families (non traditional). It is impossible, in large part because of the courts, to pass legislation which favors a married couple with kids over unmarried couples with kids. But We the People must insist such distinctions are made and the “favoratism” which comes with it.
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Squawk #135;
There is only one power that can change the destiny that we have before us and that is God. i would strongly suggest prayer and lots of it, cause only he can change the hearts and minds of the electorate.
Yup, yup, yup. I pray and fast for the nation. I encourage all to do the same.
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OK, gewtting late. One more thing in regards to Ace of Spades. It may have been at a bad time but I first strolled on his website shortly after 9/11 and read major f-bombs and I was particularly taken back by open calls to “f___ forgiveness” and to seek the blood of the attackers.
First off, I tend to not like blogs which allow f-bombing. (I don’t necessarily mind the “alternative replacements” but that’s another story). Second, to profane what is a paramount tenet in Christianity be We the People, I’m convinced, would result in God withdrawing His Spirit from this people and his sword of justice would fall upon us. No thank you. Third, acting on vengence will result in the same. It’s no secret that when it comes to matters of national security, I don’t fool around. I outright support annihiliation upon those foreigners who inflict war upon my country and kill my fellow citizens and fully support inflicting all the deathm, destruction, pain, and general mayheim upon the combatant enemies of my country in order to achieve my goal. But forgivness is so crucial. We *must* fight in am anner to free the people against which we are fighting. Japan is a great example of how the United States unconditionally defeated that nation and then sought to rebuild it and its people. such grand miracles are not wrought upon the world through vengeance. Leave that to God.
So, I did not get a good first impression of Ace of Spades and my “imprint” of him is difficult to get rid of. However, having read several of his articles from links from this site, I really do see him as a thoughtful and insightful individual so thanks for sharing his articles over the past few years (LST included).
good night.
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