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  1. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Good morning Hamsterville, Where y’all at this morning? First!

  2. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    I think I saw mharper in there.

  3. Katfish Avatar

    someone has WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY too much free time!!

  4. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    # 1
    Over here.

  5. Hamous Avatar

    Speaking of turtles,

  6. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    G’Morning All
    Follow up on the goat-man
    Death Wish: And he’s probably planning to cover hims self with a deer hide during deer season.

    OGDEN, Utah – State wildfire officials have identified the man who has been spotted dressed in a goat suit among a herd of wild goats in the mountains of northern Utah.
    Phil Douglass of the Utah Division of Wildlife Resources said Monday the mystery man is a 57-year-old hunter from Southern California.
    Douglass told the Standard-Examiner that the hunter called officials and provided enough information to put their curiosity to rest. Douglass says he didn’t ask for a name.
    The man told Douglass he was preparing for an archery hunt of mountain goats next year and testing a goat suit. Douglass says the hunter came to Utah because he heard it was easier to get near goats for training.
    The man described his suit as a hooded painter’s uniform and a fleece.

  7. Hamous Avatar

    This can’t be good for Barry:

    WASHINGTON – The Democratic leader of the Senate Intelligence Committee said Monday that the White House appears to be responsible for some leaks of classified information.
    “I think the White House has to understand that some of this is coming from their ranks,” Sen. Dianne Feinstein told a World Affairs Council forum.

  8. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Speaking of turtles,

    Would one be a hypocrite if they wore a mock turtleneck shirt while eating?

  9. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    “I think the White House has to understand that some of this is coming from their ranks,” Sen. Dianne Feinstein told a World Affairs Council forum.

    I think Barry was quite aware of the leaks before hand.

  10. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    From the L.A. Times:

    According to Bryant, the white 2000 Ford F-250 Super Duty truck went off the right side of the road on northbound U.S. 59, a major artery between San Antonio and the Mexican border, 10 miles southwest of Goliad, Texas.

    Apparently Karl Rove cranked up his machine, activated the lost memory feature and then moved the entire city of San Antonio 100 Miles south overnight.

  11. Hamous Avatar

    Would one be a hypocrite if they wore a mock turtleneck shirt while eating?

    No, but it would be kind of a “salt-in-the-wound” gesture.

  12. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Would one be a hypocrite if they wore a mock turtleneck shirt while eating?

    Because they’re mocking the turtle they’re eating?

  13. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Good morning Hamsters. Cool 73 and reasonably pleasant at 6. Wondering if this is a good omen for the day, as at long last the landscape folks are supposed to arrive this morning to put down sod on the low spots we filled in late last fall. It’s supposed to be a more shade tolerant variety than ordinary St. Augustine. Some plants that did not fare well in the drought are being replaced with more sturdy ones in some of the beds. What survived last summer in reasonably good condition looks great with abundant water this year.
    Meant to ask Hamous several times so will do so now. How is the remodeling coming on your house?

  14. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Memo to: POTUS
    From: Eric Holder
    Subj: Fatalities in South Texas.
    Copy: Janet Napalitino.
    As you are aware, there was a fatal crash killing 14 of the 23 occupants of a pickup truck in south Texas. In anticipation of your consolation trip down there, I have pushed through the paper work to grant all 23 them amnesty and have registered them to vote in November.
    Eric

  15. Hamous Avatar

    Good grief.

    Shelby’s body has been held in a Dallas morgue since his May 10 death. His children said their father signed a directive this year to have his remains cremated and split between them and a plot in his native East Texas. But his last wife, Cleo Shelby, called that directive a forgery and said another document signed two years ago gave her power over his affairs.
    Both sides said Monday they were close to reaching a formal settlement, heading off a civil trial scheduled for Thursday. They said the agreement will allow Shelby’s body to be cremated, but with the ashes split five ways instead of four, with an extra share for Cleo Shelby.
    “We’re not happy with it but we want to get my dad in the ground,” said Shelby’s oldest son, Michael, who said his siblings were still discussing final details.

  16. Hamous Avatar

    Meant to ask Hamous several times so will do so now. How is the remodeling coming on your house?

    #$%^ *&*^%^ $%%&***!!!!!!

  17. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I still can’t fathom how people can think that Joe Paterno got a raw deal with the sanctions announced against Penn State yesterday.

    “I’m furious,” Olson said, standing underneath rows of pennants from other Big Ten schools. “JoePa didn’t deserve this. So many things are getting wiped away.”

    Dude, that’s what happens when somebody actively covers for a filthy scum child molester.
    It would have been even better had Paterno not actually died. First of all, he would have seen the wins he accumulated by hanging around well past his prime vacated. Secondly, he likely would have been seeing things from the inside of a jail.

  18. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    More grief
    http://www.startribune.com/local/163304886.html?page=1&c=y&refer=y

    Amid 3,000 acres of corn and soybeans and miles from the closest town, a Predator drone led to the arrests of farmer Rodney Brossart and five members of his family last year after a dispute over a neighbor’s six lost cows on his property escalated into a 16-hour standoff with police.
    It is one of the first reported cases in the nation where an unmanned drone was used to assist in the arrest of a U.S. citizen on his own property; and a controversial sign of how drones, in all shapes, sizes and missions, are beginning to hover over American skies.
    snip
    “If you’re concerned about it, maybe there’s a reason we should be flying over you, right?” said Douglas McDonald, the company’s director of special operations and president of a local chapter of the unmanned vehicle trade group.

    I wouldn’t call it a drone, I’d call it skeet.

  19. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #16 Hamous
    Careful. Remember your sweet granny…

  20. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    btw – I stopped by Canino’s on Sat. It’s a really cool place, but a little far for me to go to regularly – just when I happen to be in the neighborhood.

  21. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #16 Hamous
    Oh-oh, sorry I asked. Do not watch The Money Pit until all is finished.
    Softly tip-toe to the exit and quietly close the door.

  22. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Shelby’s body has been held in a Dallas morgue since his May 10 death

    Heck of an outcome for such an easy going guy. Sad.

  23. Hamous Avatar

    #20 A couple of years ago our world class mayor was touting the opening of a new age hippie farmers market downtown and how it was a much needed addition to our world class city. Canino’s has been around since the ’50s and is a true farmers market. I can walk out of there with three sacks of vegetables for $25. It would be three times that at the “world class” hippie farmers market.

  24. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    In an effort to make good on President Barack Obama’s commitment to “green energy,” the United States Air Force spent $639,000 on 11,000 gallons of alcohol-to-jet fuel from Gevo Inc., a Colorado biofuels company, at $59 a gallon.
    The cost of petroleum is presently $3.60 a gallon.
    Similarly, in preparation for last week’s “Green Fleet Demonstration,” the U.S. Navy purchased $12 million in biofuels to prove that a carrier strike group could be run on biofuels for the day. It’s all part of the Obama Administration’s decision last year to direct the Navy, Agriculture department, and the Energy department to spend $510 million in taxpayer monies on alternative jet and marine fuels.
    But what may appear on the surface to be a green energy initiative may instead by yet another example of cronyism between the green energy industry and Democratic lawmakers.
    As it turns out, one of the venture capital funders behind Gevo Inc. is Vinod Khosla. Since 1996, opensecrets.org reports that Mr. Khosla has made $474,534 in campaign donations, 86 percent of which went to Democrats.
    There’s more.
    As Reuters reports:
    Khosla’s firm owned a 27 percent stake in Gevo as of the company’s March federal filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
    Khosla also has close ties to another venture capital firm whose team includes Al Gore, the former vice president and Democratic presidential candidate in 2000.
    Mr. Khosla is no stranger to failed biofuel projects involving taxpayer monies. He was the chief backer of Range Fuels, a biofuels company that received a government-guaranteed $64 million loan only to later go bust and leave taxpayers holding the bag.
    In his book, Throw Them All Out, Government Accountability Institute President Peter Schweizer revealed that 80 percent of the Department of Energy’s $20.5 billion loan program went to companies owned by or connected to Mr. Obama’s campaign donors.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/07/23/air-force-59-per-gal-biofuel

  25. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    The rubber snake and turtle test on a country road is an old, old study. Turtles are perhaps the only reptiles that aren’t feared and hated. Turtles : reptiles = Butterflies : insects.

  26. Hamous Avatar

    Adee, it’s been a nightmare. One of these days I’ll be able to relate the whole story without my blood pressure going through the roof. I’m not there yet. Let me just say that contractors are ranked about the same place as wrecker drivers in my book.

  27. Tedtam Avatar

    #24
    I’m SHOCKED! SHOCKED I say!
    /sarc off

  28. Katfish Avatar

    Perhaps one of Yall with more current time available can lend a hand? I’d sure like to get my hands on the post someone put up (maybe a week ago? cannot recall) from the Chronicle regarding the “difficulties” (KOFF) in acquiring a photo ID
    TIA!

  29. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Speaking of turtles,

    I had shoft shell cooter once.

  30. Katfish Avatar

    #s 16, 21, & 26 – Remodeling almost ALWAYS has a few (if not many) pull-ones-hair-out aspects – bummer Hammy! Hope Ya getterDUN without homicide or suicide 🙂

  31. Katfish Avatar

    #29 – Man that gate at Ft. Dix was a busy location eh? 🙂

  32. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Katfish- This one?

    WASHINGTON (AP) — A San Antonio teenager said Tuesday that she didn’t have the right documents to comply with Texas’ new voter ID law and would be disenfranchised if it goes into effect.
    Victoria Rose Rodriguez, 18, told a federal court in Washington that she had limited documentation — a birth certificate, a high school transcript and a student ID card with a photo on it — but is currently a registered voter in Texas. She said her parents are too busy to take her or her twin sister to get the new voter identification cards required by the law.
    Getting a driver’s license also is not an option, she said, because it would mean she and her sister would be added to her family’s car insurance, a costly move.
    “My dad works all day,” she said. “And my mother is the sole caretaker for my grandmother.”

    http://www.chron.com/default/article/Texas-teen-testifies-about-voter-ID-law-s-effects-3697494.php

  33. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Remodeling almost ALWAYS has a few (if not many) pull-ones-hair-out aspects

    Prollem is that he’s runnin’ kinda low in that dept.

  34. Hamous Avatar

    The above-referenced soft-shell cooter recipe comes from a book written by Marjorie Kinnan Rawlings. She was a Yankee that moved down to Florida and wrote several books in the 1930s about Cracker life, the most famous being “The Yearling” was made into a movie starring Gregory Peck and Jane Wyman. I should note that no self-respecting Cracker would put nutmeg in their cooter soup. Hell, 99% of them don’t even know what nutmeg is. The area where Ms. Rawlings lived is called Cross Creek. There’s a restaurant there called “The Yearling” that’s been there since the early ’50s. They still serve cooter soup.

  35. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    A mock turtleneck is called a dickey.
    Because they are all made in Dickey, ND, the dickey capital of the world.

  36. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #18 Texanadian: I wonder if it is possible to link a 2 axis (X, Y) servo controller to a RF scanner. Then all one would have to do is mount the firearm of choice on said controller and get “zeroed” then tune in to the frequency the transmitter on the Drone is using. It would then be much easier to blast the offending object.

  37. Tedtam Avatar

    As a mother of a special needs child, this hits close to home.
    Handsome was unable to communicate when he was young – even at age seven, complete sentences were uncommon. Lovely told me of an incident at a daycare when Handsome was about four or five, where two older “after schoolers” were making fun of him. Handsome, not having a good grasp of human communication, was not understanding what was being done to him. Lovely took his hand and led him away from the situation, but I don’t think she told any of the adults.
    For this bus driver to be acquitted is unbelievable. Looking at the video, there were few, if any, other students on this bus, and to see two large boys being so close to this smaller child, and to hear screaming – and do NOTHING?! I know she has to drive and keep eyes on the road, but after forty minutes of this type of behavior, I would have pulled that bus over and assigned seats – and reported the bullies.
    /spits

  38. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #34 Hamous
    Why you always hatin’ on the nutmeg?

  39. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Nutmeg = effete? Just a guess.

  40. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    try yummy

  41. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I thought the New Messiah was gonna cut the Federal deficit in half.
    I think he’s doin’ it wrong or “cut in half” doesn’t mean what I thought it meant.

  42. Hamous Avatar

    It’s sort of like “number of jobs saved or created”. He meant that if he hadn’t been elected the deficit would have been $32 trillion instead of $16 trillion. He cut it in half!

  43. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    This video contains proof that Obama is a mooslime. The proof is contained in the the phrases from his own mouth. Watch this video on youtube while you still can.

  44. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #26 Hamous
    All sympathy and condolences extended to your household.
    We have done updating/remodeling in four sessions over 6 years, 3 of which went reasonably well, but the 4th was working on being a nightmare before conclusion.
    The contractor makes all the difference as do references from satisfied customers. But even then things can go wrong…. 🙁

  45. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #43 Hammie: I think that may wind up being the narrative from the LSM. They have nothing else so they are gonna have to make up VSR from whole cloth and hope enough of the sheeple believe it. I just hope that the patriots across the country come out in droves and vote the mooslime in the white house out and a whole lots of boot licking Ds along with him.

  46. Tedtam Avatar

    Don’t be hatin’ on nutmeg. It’s an egg-shaped seed, which is grated to create the spice.
    I’d like to see how you’d handle your nuts on a grater, dude.

  47. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #47 TT
    !!!!!!!!! and !

  48. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #47: OUCH!! Ifn its all the same to you (even ifn it ain’t) I’m gonna leave mine in the original equipment container.

  49. bob42 Avatar

    Some might find this offensive, or even painful. Just remember that Tedtam started it.

  50. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    37 Bonecrusher says:
    July 24, 2012 at 9:24 am
    #18 Texanadian: I wonder if it is possible to link a 2 axis (X, Y) servo controller to a RF scanner.
    Could be, but I do not have the tech skill to pull it off.

  51. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Are sociopaths becoming more common? The twit was having a bad day so he sets fire to a nuclear submarine in drydocks, he caused $400 MILLION in damages.
    Questions:
    Why did the Navy contract with an entity that has mentally ill employees on the payroll and give said employees direct access to the inside of a nuclear submarine??
    Why did the entity allow a mentally ill employee access inside the sub? Does the word “liability” mean nothing anymore?

  52. Hamous Avatar

    Why did the Navy contract with an entity that has mentally ill employees on the payroll and give said employees direct access to the inside of a nuclear submarine??

    Fitty bucks sez he was protected by his union.

  53. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Hmm, fitty bucks would give you 2.5 surreal experiences outside the main gate you-know-where.

  54. Hamous Avatar

    Or two with a ten spot left over for penicillin!

  55. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #53 : You’re prolly correct. What positive impact, pray tell, have union scum made to America in the last 40 years or so? Union jobs (private sector) are diminishing due to non competitiveness and those jobs are going overseas. Public sector union membership is expanding and they are getting paid more to do less (almost none of which is actually productive) while swelling the size of the govt and strangling the private sector.

  56. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Nutjobs need work, too.

  57. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Nutjobs need work, too.

    I agree, really I do. There are much less sensitive places to allow them to work and still preserve their dignity. The whole risk/reward curve thingie was completely ignored in this case.

  58. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Last time I was in a large government office at least 30% of them looked like they should be chained to an eyebolt in the floor.

  59. bob42 Avatar

    #37 Bonecrusher, it may be more difficult than you think.

    I wonder if it is possible to link a 2 axis (X, Y) servo controller to a RF scanner.

    Your projectile would have to hit a relatively small object moving ~70mph at a working altitude of several thousand feet. You’re gonna need to put some trajectory and z-axis smarts into your gizmo.

  60. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Last time I was in a large government office at least 30% of them looked like they should be chained to an eyebolt in the floor.

    Or a tree outside.
    Also, 25-30% prolly could have evaporated without the productivity of the facility changing noticeably.

  61. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #60 I figgerin ifn you could merge a range finder with the gizmo, then load the ballistics of the particular charge you are gonna use it would be self correcting.

  62. Katfish Avatar

    Those of you that want the opportunity to say “I heard them back in the day” (because IMHO these 2 “The Hems” are destined for the Grand Ole Opry stage someday soon)………….tune in with me to Threadgills in Austin for LIVE music last Sunday night:
    The Hems
    look on left menu for July 2012 – then Sunday 7/22 for “The Hems”
    (the Gent on harmony picking wicked gueetar is my business partner’s Son Dusty)

  63. bob42 Avatar

    #62 You’d still need a heck of a lead on the target, not to mention enough muzzle velocity to guarantee that the target’s dying words to the mothership would be the GPS coordinates of your hot and heavy gun, that it can detect with high res long distance infrared.
    You’d be better off enlisting the aid of the anarchist kids at 4chan to hack the control communications.

  64. Tedtam Avatar

    When I took Fortran while at A&M, we were taught by a former Pentagon programmer whom they flew in for his one Wednesday night class from 5-8 pm. He told us that the way the missile shield systems worked was to “draw” a grid across the sky, and use the trajectory calculated on that grid to determine where to send the interceptor missiles. We were also the only class who worked with linear linked lists.
    He also told us that they could take music, etc., into the Pentagon, but they couldn’t take it out. There was a big box at the exit door, and any tapes (remember how long ago this was!) or any other recordable media on their person on the way out was dropped through the box and returned to them. On the trip through the box, the magnets inside would wipe whatever was on the medium. So, the Eagles could enter the Pentagon, but they could never leave.
    And there there was the night he scheduled a major test – the night of Bonfire. His class was broken up into two 1½ hour sessions. That night, he lectured for the first half, and then gave us a 10 minute break before the test. Nobody went back for the test. He was livid.
    Oh, those were the days…

  65. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Your projectile would have to hit a relatively small object moving ~70mph at a working altitude of several thousand feet. You’re gonna need to put some trajectory and z-axis smarts into your gizmo.

    You’d also need a very high-powered gun. I doubt your standard rifle, even a pretty high-powered one would be able to reach beyond 15-20,000 feet up with enough energy to do any damage.

  66. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    When I took Fortran while at A&M, we were taught by a former Pentagon programmer whom they flew in for his one Wednesday night class from 5-8 pm. He told us that the way the missile shield systems worked was to “draw” a grid across the sky, and use the trajectory calculated on that grid to determine where to send the interceptor missiles.

    First of all, FORTRAN??? Innit that from like the late Neolithic?
    The grid thing will get an interceptor close, but with the speeds the incoming warheads are traveling, the interceptor has to rely on terminal guidance, both from very high-powered radar on the ground and radar mounted in the interceptor.

  67. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    The truth is that, if elected to the Senate, Cruz and Dewhurst would vote alike 99% of the time. They would likely differ on only one vote that would matter, and that is the vote for Republican whip. Jim DeMint, of South Carolina, is seeking the position, and so is John Cornyn of Texas. You would think that a senator from Texas would support a colleague from his home state, but DeMint got Cruz into the race and helped fund him. The odds are overwhelming that Cruz will vote for DeMint, perhaps casting the deciding vote that would rob Texas’s soon-to-be senior senator from achieving the number two position in the Republican hierarchy. – Paul Burka

  68. Tedtam Avatar

    It was either Fortran or Cobol. For some reason, Fortran seemed cooler to me, though as a business major, I should have taken Cobol.
    And yes, I ran with the dinosaurs.

  69. bob42 Avatar

    I learned FORTRAN on one of these. One job/user at a time, card input.

  70. Katfish Avatar

    #32 – not that one – I believe the post I have in mind was a statistical rebuttal to the ‘supposed issue’ of how incredibly difficult (KOFF) it is to acquire a simple photo ID
    THANKS either way!
    If anyone can re-post it is appreciated in advance!

  71. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Memorable quote from one of my profs: “Hell, you can learn FORTRAN in a day.”

  72. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    This is the article Rush is discussing, regarding TEO crediting the gubmint for inventing the danged ol innernet Gordon Crovitz: Who Really Invented the Internet?
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444464304577539063008406518.html?mod=WSJ_hp_mostpop_read

    If the government didn’t invent the Internet, who did? Vinton Cerf developed the TCP/IP protocol, the Internet’s backbone, and Tim Berners-Lee gets credit for hyperlinks.
    But full credit goes to the company where Mr. Taylor worked after leaving ARPA: Xerox. It was at the Xerox PARC labs in Silicon Valley in the 1970s that the Ethernet was developed to link different computer networks. Researchers there also developed the first personal computer (the Xerox Alto) and the graphical user interface that still drives computer usage today.

  73. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #68 Shannon
    Me, I think DeMint has done far more to advance conservatism than Cornyn.

  74. Tedtam Avatar

    #71 Katfish
    Perhaps this is the post you’re looking for?

    … DOJ and Ansolabehere also made other mistakes that led Sager to conclude that more than 1.45 million voters were incorrectly listed by DOJ as not having an ID.
    By the way, Ansolabehere is on record in his prior academic research as saying that voter ID laws prevent “almost no one” from voting and that “there may be little or no voting rights issue involved in the dispute over Voter ID rules.” …
    Texas had another expert, Prof. Daron Shaw, conduct a representative survey of a sample of the voters that DOJ claimed had no ID. He found that 73 percent reported they actually had a Texas driver’s license. The survey also showed that 39 percent had passports and 18 percent had military IDs. Once the voters over age 65 who don’t need an ID to vote were eliminated, the survey revealed that 1.9 percent of whites, 0.96 percent of Hispanics, and 1.23 percent of blacks will have to obtain a free photo ID. Shaw concludes that “there is no statistically significant difference in ID possession rates amongst whites, blacks, and Hispanics” contrary to the false claims made publicly by DOJ ….
    What is clear is that DOJ failed to remove ineligible voters like the deceased from its list, made basic errors that exponentially magnified the supposed list of individuals without a state-issued photo ID, and deliberately and intentionally prevented its own experts from accessing any federal ID databases that would have also reduced the number of Texans who supposedly don’t have ID or that would have identified non-citizens registered to vote in the state. Thus, DOJ’s claims of disenfranchisement all turn out to be nothing but smoke and mirrors.

  75. Hamous Avatar

    I learned FORTRAN on a DEC VAX. No punch cards.

  76. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    40 mharper42 says:
    July 24, 2012 at 9:47 am
    Nutmeg = effete? Just a guess.

    Nutmeg=Yankee

  77. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    How did the Colorado shooter afford all those guns and tactical gear?
    He got a $26,000 government grant.

  78. Tedtam Avatar

    The drugs are being shared amongst the Dems.
    ‘By Every Measure Our Economy Is Getting Stronger’: Former DNC Chair’s Startling News

  79. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Really? Really?

    (CNSNews.com) – President Barack Obama, long criticized for what opponents consider apologies for the United States to other countries, asserted to a gathering of veterans Monday that “we will never apologize.”

  80. Tedtam Avatar

    Crazy Egyptians.
    Compared to how we are judged by what we speak – wow!
    I can only imagine – “I hate the Mexicans!” “Such patriotism!”
    And about 50 years of jail would be the result. Or the sentence. The actual sentence may last a day or two before a shiv shortened the sentence.

  81. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #79 Hamous
    Ya think? 🙂 Ahem

  82. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Rival for bad timing

  83. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #80 Sarge

    Nutmeg = effete?
    Nutmeg=Yankee

    QED!

  84. Hamous Avatar

    Looks like Pennsylvania will be moving into the toss-up column shortly.

  85. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    I disagree with this site just a bit:
    Fl, NC, VA, PA, WI and IA are all likely RMoney, total votes of these is: 93 + the 191 already in the R column yields 284, comfortably over the 270 needed to win.

  86. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    I just happily voted against David Ducrap for senate.

  87. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #78 Hamous and everyone relating FORTRAN learning experiences
    Spouse learned it as a grad student-research assistant on an AEC stipend in nuclear physics in the 60s at the University of Wisconsin. The IBM computer took up half the control room for the nuclear accelerator on which they ran their experiments. A technician carried a basket of tubes around to replace burned out ones as needed. There were racks upon racks of hand-built electronics managing the experiments, the backside of which looked like an explosion in a spaghetti factory for all the wires interconnecting them.
    Programming was by punched card–woe to anyone who spilled a tray. (Tape was on the horizon but hadn’t arrived there yet.) This was pre-printer, and instead an older model IBM electric typewriter with cloth ribbon (predating the Selectric) served, typing output on big rolls of perforated-edge paper. Researchers had to monitor the ribbon usage and replace them as needed. This surely sounds like Stone Age computing to younger generations. It worked, though.
    The year after spouse passed prelims for his doctorate and passed the foreign language requirements–French and German in his case–FORTRAN was added as a choice in foreign language. 🙂 These days there is no longer a foreign language requirement.

  88. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #86 mharper42
    Yesss indeed. 🙁

  89. Tedtam Avatar

    I remember my Dad bringing home briefcases full of punch cards. With all of his offspring sitting on the floor around him, we’d reorder them for him in a matter of minutes, which might take him hours. Thank goodness they all had numbers on them!
    My BAna (business analysis) courses used punch cards, even though we had more advanced computers available. The programs we used were already punched up, and all we had to do was add our own parameters on our own set of punch cards, then carefully hand the stack to the computer tech, who’d run ’em through for us.
    For years, everyone had a “budget” on the mainframe computer, and if you couldn’t get your program to run within your allotted budget, you were screwed. The business college got our very own minicomputer (about the size of a refrigerator) my sophomore year, so I never had to worry about computer time budgets. If there was a terminal available, we could use it. It wasn’t long before students were showing up with video games and playing between classes.

  90. Hamous Avatar

    I remember asking my Fortran teacher why we were required to take a class for a language that was probably only used on government computers. He was highly offended and belligerent, but offered no explanation. This was probably in 1990. We were using Fortran 77.

  91. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Which version of FORTRAN was it that finally got rid of line #’s and all those freaking GOTO’s?

  92. Hamous Avatar

    The GOTO was in 77.

  93. Katfish Avatar

    #77 – BINGO!!!
    THANKS!!!

  94. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    I thought 100 was the bingo?

  95. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I think the GOTO is there in the current version. Somewhere around in the ’80s(?) they came up with a structured version that eliminated the need for line #’s & GOTO’s except for FORMAT statements.

  96. Hamous Avatar

    The only programming language I’ve used in the last 15 years is Python.

  97. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    NERDY GEEKS!

  98. bob42 Avatar

    Your newest favorite snack food is conveniently located right next to the Soylent Green Slurpee machine. I wonder if they have a “Big Gulp” size.

  99. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    I don’t know if this was posted before or not but it is worth another look: Louie Gohmert put Janet Incompetano on the hot seat and she does squirm a bit. I think the D running interference for her is John “Why read the bill” Dingleberry. Janet is using every trick in the Alinsky playbook to not answer simple direct questions.

  100. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #103 Bob that is kinda gnarly.

  101. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    The proper context to view the advent of vended mashed potatoes and gravy is……..
    the Darwin Awards.

  102. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Yeah, if you’re making that ad, you are seeing something very scary in your polling and focus groups.

  103. Hamous Avatar

    Fun with Iranian computers – Part II:

    A computer malware has allegedly attacked computer systems in Iran forcing them to play AC/DC’s Thunderstruck at full volume in the middle of the night, according to a computer security researcher.
    Mikko Hypponen, lead researcher at the Finnish computer security firm F-Secure, reported in his blog that a scientist working at the Atomic Energy Organisation of Iran (AEOI) sent him an e-mail about his systems getting hit by a cyber-attack.

    h/t Ree-C

  104. Tedtam Avatar

    That would have been even cooler with Barney’s “I love you” song. That would not only tie up their computers, but it would drive a few of their people insane at the same time.
    What a two-fer!

  105. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Because they’re mocking the turtle they’re eating?

    I’m not sure if you know what “Mock Turtle Soup” is, but if you do,….sorry, cuz I thought that I’d “Splain it.
    The turtle is a reptile which is a real close kin to a chicken; a chicken has white and dark meat and so does the turtle. Some say that the meat on a turtle tastes like seven different kind of meats, chicken, pork, beef, lamb, shrimp, fish, and goat. I don’t think so, more like light and dark, a little fishy and not fishy. So “Mock Turtle Soup” is fake turtle soup made with chicken pork and some sort of fish,…I think, never made it.
    😉

  106. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I voted.
    Man that felt good.

  107. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    I think that I mentioned that I voted yesterday and when I got the mail l had a flyer from “The Conservatives of Texas” or some such crap and out of the 10 or so candidates running they picked EXACTLY ONE conservative!!! Oh and if memory serves, it had Hotze’s name on it.

  108. TexMo Avatar
    TexMo

    #107 Sarge
    Un-freakin-believable!!! And the definition of “is” is…

  109. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    HAA!! Google is my FRIEND!! “Conservative Republicans of Texas” Harris County. Conservative?!?! I report you decide. 😀

  110. TexMo Avatar
    TexMo

    #109 & 110
    I was thinking of AC/DC’s Highway to Hell.

  111. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    #42 Bagonwurner
    Good catch!
    For those challenged by dates and numbers
    Oct 2007 to Sep 2008 Deficit = $1,017,071,524,650.01
    Oct 2008 to Sep 2009 Deficit = $1,885,104,106,599.26
    Oct 2009 to Sep 2010 Deficit = $1,651,794,027,380.04
    Oct 2010 to Sep 2011 Deficit = $1,228,717,297,665.36.
    Oct 2011 to Present Deficit = $1,066,026,885,767.29.

  112. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    #116 TexMo
    More proof that the US wasn’t responsible. Based on the President’s iPod gift to the Queen, those computers should have been belting out Richard Rogers show tunes. 😉

  113. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    115 Super D
    Hotze is a political whore who runs several “Pay To Play” newsletters in which candidates pay for endorsements.
    Terry Lowry runs a similar operation, The Link Letter.
    They have no ideological loyalties.
    It’s all about money.

  114. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    This zombie stuff is spreading

    A Houston-area man has been accused of grabbing an 11-year-old boy and biting him on the face.

  115. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    If you want a good education in the history of FOR PROFIT “Conservative” NEWSLETTERS in this area,
    go read this.

  116. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #117 shamaal
    Just to give you every break I can…
    Let’s take the biggest recent deficit regardless of year: $1,885,104,106,599.26 (apparently down to the penny – nice touch)
    Multiply by 1/2 (or divide by 2, whichever gives you the most favorable result): $942,552,053,299.63
    Compare to smallest deficit, again regardless of year: $1,017,071,524,650.01 (the year we started with, but I’m in a giving mood)
    $1,017,071,524,650.01 > $942,552,053,299.63
    oopsie…
    Welcome to Failville, population: you.

  117. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    120
    Shamaalski
    A predictable result of 50 years of Progressive influence on the culture.

  118. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #119 Shannon,

    Hotze is a political whore who runs several “Pay To Play” newsletters in which candidates pay for endorsements.

    I knew that, that is why I added the remark. 😉

  119. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    #122 forked tongue

    #117 shamaal
    Just to give you every break I can…
    Let’s take the smallest recent deficit regardless of year: $1,017,071,524,650.01 (apparently down to the penny – nice touch)
    Multiply by 1/2 (or divide by 2, whichever gives you the most favorable result): 942,552,053,299.63
    Compare to smallest deficit, again regardless of year: $1,017,071,524,650.01 (the year we started with, but I’m in a giving mood)
    $1,017,071,524,650.01 > 508,535,762,325.005
    oopsie…
    Welcome to Failville, population: you.

    Care to check your numbers again, Cantaddatall?
    I’ll wait 😉

  120. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #121 Shannon, DAYAAM good article, this caught my attention;

    Before I get to the other slates, I need to briefly discuss the role of one radio station in all of this—KSEV, AM 700. The presence of effective local conservative radio forums in the Houston area is wonderful, and KSEV has provided our candidates with an effective vehicle for getting radio advertising to a conservative base. However, the control of the station by a sitting, and very ambitious State Senator casts a long shadow of out-sized influence over our local party and its primary. When he, or one of the other celebrity politicians on that station, steps into a race either during commentary on a show, or as a voice-over in an ad, more than just a politician’s endorsement is involved—it creates an advertising revenue stream for the Senator. The problem created by this blurring of political influence with personal income is hard to distinguish from the problem created by the for-profit slate mailers. Though the ownership of a clearly political radio station by a very political State Senator is not illegal, it can’t be separated from the entire context of the private “pay for play” culture that now exists in our local primary.

    Yanno, I’ve always liked Dan but, even though he’s NOT OFFICIALLY ENDORSED Dewhurts, he DOES carry his water and berates Ted Curz every chance he can.
    I hate to say it but he has become one of the “Establishment Republicans” “Good Ole Boy Club” members! 🙁

  121. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    What’s wrong?
    I was in the middle of cutting you every shred of slack I could find.

  122. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Super Dave says:
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    July 24, 2012 at 7:21 pm
    WHAT?!?! I didn’t say nuttin’ that I wouldn’t say to Hammie’ s Granny!!! 🙁
    HAL?!?!….Oh Shannon said it, he said Hoe, I didn’t!

  123. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    #122 The Chief Medicine Man of Failville wrote, again …………..

    #117 shamaal
    Just to give you every break I can…
    Let’s take the biggest recent deficit regardless of year: $1,885,104,106,599.26 (apparently down to the penny – nice touch)
    Multiply by 1/2 (or divide by 2, whichever gives you the most favorable result): $942,552,053,299.63
    Compare to smallest deficit, again regardless of year: $1,017,071,524,650.01 (the year we started with, but I’m in a giving mood)
    $1,017,071,524,650.01 > $942,552,053,299.63oopsie…
    Welcome to Failville, population: you.

    OK good, another attempt. Take your time, read it all. I’ll wait.
    Now does it say what you want it to say, or do you have some more tweaks?
    I’m particularly intrigued by your random dividing/multiplying/dissembling. Is this some sort of talisman to ward off truth evil spirits? 😉

  124. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Oct 2007 to Sep 2008 Deficit = $1,017,071,524,650.01
    Oct 2008 to Sep 2009 Deficit = $1,885,104,106,599.26
    Oct 2009 to Sep 2010 Deficit = $1,651,794,027,380.04
    Oct 2010 to Sep 2011 Deficit = $1,228,717,297,665.36.
    Oct 2011 to Present Deficit = $1,066,026,885,767.29.

    Add up the last 4 and you have Barry’s deficit. The 2009 FY Budget wasn’t passed untl he got into offie, and its the last one the Democrat controlled Senate passed.

  125. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I was in the middle of cutting you every shred of slack I could find.

    What is it about this wanker that everyone keeps going back to get whacked across the face with a brown-encrusted barn broom?
    I’ve taken the pledge to stop.

  126. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    OK my post is still in the “Spit Bucket”, I’ll check back later, after the moderator shows up……:sad:

  127. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    #129 Serge

    Add up the last 4 and you have Barry’s deficit. The 2009 FY Budget wasn’t passed untl he got into offie, and its the last one the Democrat controlled Senate passed.

    Very good Serge, but we’re talking about deficits, not budgets. You know revenue in versus expenses out. But then you knew that.
    Go off and formulate what you want to say, change your post as necessary; as soon as I’m finished with the ConnestogaFlamer; I’ll return to your point.

  128. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #128 dave
    It’s spelled wh0re. 😉

  129. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I do nthink we were promised that by the endo of his term that deficit would be cut in half. Looks like its onl been reduced by 162 million—but the year isn’t over yet. If spending continues at the pace set for the present year, whih is 3/4 over it will end up being $1,776,710,765,593, and increase of $54,799,346,7928

  130. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Very good Serge, but we’re talking about deficits, not budgets. You know revenue in versus expenses out. But then you knew that.

    Yup i did—and its what I pointed out. I just through the Senate hasn’t passed a budget thing in as a little bonus to underline how irresponsible the Democrats are.

  131. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    But i do have to be gentle with mathematically challanged folks like Democrats. Even if your FY 2012 number wasn’t bogus (and your numbers are listed in FY terms, so we are nailng them to budgets now arent we?) you guys think that an increase of $500 billion is cutting the deficit in half.

  132. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    It just dawned on me that we’re talking about Obama. He always gets things as exactly backwards as is possible.
    When he said he’d cut the deficit in half in his first term, what he really meant was to double it. He didn’t quite get there, but it wasn’t for lack of trying.

  133. Hamous Avatar

    I’ve taken the pledge to stop.

    Would that it could be true for all.

  134. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Blame it on the margarita.

  135. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    [Comment removed as unfair to the sobriety challenged]

    Blame it on the margarita.

    Been there done that, I’ll stop ragging on you 😉

  136. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Nope.
    I’m challenging your implicaton that it means that Obama is some kind of fiscal hawk.

  137. Hamous Avatar

    I’m challenging your implicaton that it means that Obama is some kind of fiscal hawk.

    Oh, come on. No one believes that. Not even Shamaalinski.

  138. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Super Dave
    I apologize if I was the cause of your comment being quarantined.
    I tried to go into the dashboard and release it, but can’t seem to do it from this phone.

  139. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    139
    I’ve only pledged to stop being nice.

  140. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    I’m challenging your implicaton that it means that Obama is some kind of fiscal hawk.

    Ummmm …………. we’re talking about this President Obama

    “Everybody who is out there back in 2009, if you look back what their estimates were in terms of how many jobs had been lost, how bad the economy had contracted when I took office, everybody underestimated it. People thought that the economy contracted 3%. It turns it retracted close to 9%. We lost 8 million jobs just in a year’s span, about half a year before I took office and half a year after I took office,” Obama said.

    This is puzzling ………….. what could be the source of your confusion?
    You don’t strike me as a Margarita guy ………………….
    I’m thinking something with an umbella and a cherry on a sword.
    I got it! A Pink Fuzzy Navel On the Beach with a Pina Colada chaser? 😉

  141. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Gypsy loves peanuts.
    She’ll swallow a large scrap of steak in one gulp, but chew on a peanut.

  142. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Speaker John Boehner on Tuesday said he agreed with President Obama that Congress should not approve new gun laws as a response to the Colorado movie theater shootings.

    Wow, the Republican leadership falling in behind the President. Now if we can just stop the House from spending money they don’t have, things may pick up.

  143. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Obama termed the Bush $300billion deficit irresponsible and unpatriotic.
    Come on folks. Only a community organizer can save us.

  144. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Ummmm …………. we’re talking about this President Obama

    Nah.
    I’m talking about the one who sad we were going to see 3% GDP growth and barely gets l.5.
    That one.

  145. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Yawn ………………
    Let me know when he starts a recession.

  146. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Remember how much time, money and effort the Dems put into Wisconsin and ended up with the only they ould hang their hat on was a one vote majority in the State Senate that isn’t going to meet until after the next election?
    Yah..
    About that last part.

    State Sen. Tim Cullen, a moderate Democrat from Janesville, broke with his party’s caucus Tuesday, saying he may become an independent over what he felt were political “insults” by the Senate majority leader

  147. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    uh, to be fair

    “[A] drastic reduction in the deficit…will take place in the fiscal year ’82.”
    –President Reagan, news conference, cited in The New York Times, March 6, 1981. (In fiscal 1982, the first full year of Reagan’s presidency, the government ran up a record budget deficit of $128 billion.)

    Let’s cut them some slack

    “America has a strong economy and a surplus…. Now is the time to reform the tax code and share some of the surplus with the people who pay the bills.”
    –George W. Bush, nomination acceptance speech, 3 August 2000

    We know what happened next.

  148. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I tried to go into the dashboard and release it, but can’t seem to do it from this phone.

    That’s easy.

  149. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    151 shamaal says:
    July 24, 2012 at 8:39 pm
    Yawn ………………
    Let me know when he starts a recession.

    You guys certainly set the bar low.
    “Vote for Obama! Its not a Recession yet!”

  150. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    LOL 🙂
    Vote for Romney, we promise it won’t happen again,
    No really, We mean it this time.
    Trust Us
    Hard to fit on a bumper sticker.

  151. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Obama brought us the economic recovery!!!
    Only twelve more years until we’ve recovered the lost jobs!

  152. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Even some Dems are saying our economy is actually in a Depression.

  153. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Not just a few, it’s generally characterized in the MSM as the Great Depression.

  154. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    I heard several radio hosts say the 70-year-old man who was arrested for biting the kid’s face claims there is a cultural misunderstanding. He is Muslim.
    Do Muslims bite kids they don’t even know?

  155. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #151

    Yawn ………………
    Let me know when he starts a recession.

    Gosh, I wish he ONLY started a recession, instead of what we got. 🙁

  156. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #109 Hamous: :>) Oh yeah, baby, take that you goat raping SOBs. Just wait until the next one when the schizzle really hits the fan.

  157. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #160: He marked him as his property. Pederasty is a nasty habit among the middle eastern mooslimes.

  158. Hamous Avatar

    There are no comments in moderation. Shannon musta deleted it with his super duper iPhone wondermachine.

  159. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    We know what happened next.

    Yes
    The Democrats extended them when they had control of both houses of congress and the presidency, and will do it again once they stop using it as an election issue.
    Harry Reid explains it here.

  160. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    157 wagonburner says:
    July 24, 2012 at 8:47 pm
    Obama brought us the economic recovery!!!

    Don’t forget that he ended the Recession—-in June 2009. Its been ever so rosy since then.

  161. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    OK, I’ve been done did my Civic Duty and voted, daughter called me today and said that she voted in Fort Bend County this afternoon, so it’s time for something more fun.
    After ’bout 10 years of being without a 4 -Wheeler, ole Dave is back in business,….PSSST just don’t tell the “Old Girl” because she has been veddy, veddy good to me us.
    A week ago Sunday I purchased a Kawasaki Brute Force 750i camo, Dang Dammit that Thang is FAST!! Will scare the crap outta’ ya’! 😀

  162. Tedtam Avatar

    #163 Bone

    #160: He marked him as his property. Pederasty is a nasty habit among the middle eastern mooslimes.

    Even dogs are happy just to pee on their territory.
    I had to turn my computer off for a while. Some loud thunder and flickering lights necessitated a hasty retreat out of the cyberzone.

  163. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Vote for Romney, we promise it won’t happen again,
    No really, We mean it this time.
    Trust Us

    Actually, given the results of what Obama has done, it DOES have kind of a ring to it, doesn’t it? Although I think I an condense it and put it in a bumber stiker:
    “Remember when people made money and everybody had a job?”

  164. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    My #167, I guess that I might add that my buddy and bought a couple of small 4-wheelers in 1999 when the boys were 11-12 and then moved from a 710 acre lease to a 1501 acre one with 4 miles of private dirt roads around it. That is when we bought the trusty old 1973 CJ-5 for $1500, spent $35 for a starter, $55 for a 55 amp alternator (they didn’t have the 37 amp one that it came with) and I rebuilt the old rochester one barrel carb (kit cost $7.10 @ auto zone) so it wouldn’t run so rich and then we drove the daylights outta’ it. Both the boys learned how to drive that old three speed junker and Dayaam did we make some deposits in the old memory bank! YUP Life is GOOD!! 😉
    FWIW; She still runs, but she needs a new battery and we’re thinking of selling the old girl. 🙁

  165. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    More Progressive insanity…..
    San Francisco activists tried to force a vote on banning circumcision.
    Yet,

    Also Tuesday, researchers reported more evidence that male circumcision is an important HIV-prevention tool in Africa, where it helps protect men from becoming infected by female partners. In Orange Farm, South Africa, just over half of the 52,000 men had been circumcised by last year, up from 17 percent in 2008. Circumcised men had half the rate of HIV infection as the uncircumcised, said Bertran Auvert of France’s University of Versailles, who estimated that 1,000 new infections were avoided last year as a result.

  166. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    I am gonna leave y’all for the evening with one of the happiest songs I have ever heard. Missing Vassar, Ricky Skaggs and Kentucky Thunder, Instrumentals album. Go ahead and try to listen and not tap your toe, I dare you:>)

  167. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Pretty chilling stuff indeed. The book overly dramatizes the event, but the video says it all.

    Peters had been waiting for Kasatka to touch his foot, the beginning of that particular behavior. He was about ten or fifteen feet down. Suddenly, he heard a killer whale vocalizing loudly. Peters described it as a distress vocalization or cry.
    He later learned the wailing was from Kalia (Kasatka’s calf) screeching for her mother, presumably, from the other pool.
    Kasatka instantly pulled her rostrum away from Peters’ feet. And then she grabbed his ankles, pulling him underwater for several seconds. When he resurfaced, she grabbed him again, this time “rag-dolling” her trainer violently by shaking him back and forth with her powerful neck muscles. Kasatka took him under again, for a minute or more.

  168. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    “Remember when people made money and everybody had a job?”

    1999, I remember it well. Although my sticker would say.
    Remember when the budget was balanced,people made money and everybody had a job?

  169. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    San Francisco activists tried to force a vote on banning circumcision.

    Thanks for giving us the skinny on that

  170. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #171 Shannon
    Damn, those Jews are smart all over again.

  171. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Remember when the budget was balanced,people made money and everybody had a job?

    Same same. Obama ain’t your Daddy’s Democrat, that’s fer sher.
    And we’ll never even get back to Clinton if Obama gets re-elected.
    Maybe if you help us get rid of him, there’s a chance another Democrat like Clinton can get elected in the future. But if he gets re-elected, therereally isn’t a prayer of that happening for another generation, at least.
    But you knew that.

  172. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    I’ll pass. I’m keeping my money on the guys that pay their bills, don’t start oopsie wars and didn’t kill capitalism.
    We know what happens when the other guys get in, twice.
    But you know that.

  173. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    1999, I remember it well. Although my sticker would say.
    Remember when the budget was balanced,people made money and everybody had a job except the thousands of folks in the military that were mustered out of their jobs?

    FWIW; I personally knew three of them, one was a Navy Airedale E7-E8 (don’t remember) with 18 years in and after many years of Carrier duty he was transferred to a AWACs squadron in Maine, his dream job, and then Clinton gutted the military and for the first time in his life he couldn’t make his rate. After they shut down his squadron there were 113 guys going for 3 slots and he was forced out, his 20 year military retirement GONE! I’ll not mention the female fighter pilot and the other AF commander that were forced out because you will know at least ONE of them if not both. It just makes me want to puke when I hear anyone talk about Clinton and his BALANCED budget, he did it by gutting our military….SPITS!!!!

  174. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Don’t stop spitting yet.
    While i clearly cannot dispute your recollection, I will point out that there were 20,000 people less in the Navy in 2006 than there were in 1999. And there wasn’t any balancing going on.

  175. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I’ll pass. I’m keeping my money on the guys that pay their bills, don’t start oopsie wars and didn’t kill capitalism.
    We know what happens when the other guys get in, twice.

    Carter and Obama.
    Yah, we get it.

  176. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    I’ll not mention the female fighter pilot and the other AF commander that were forced out because you will know at least ONE of them if not both.

    OK, did you notice that I said AF, the fighter pilot (which I didn’t say) and the commander were both in the Air Force.

  177. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Dang Dammit, I’m letting the blog hemorrhoid bother me, crap, but hey, I always consider the source, and ifin’ the “source” has zero credibility, who cares? 😉

  178. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #180

    Don’t stop spitting yet.
    While i clearly cannot dispute your recollection, I will point out that there were 20,000 people less in the Navy in 2006 than there were in 1999. And there wasn’t any balancing going on.

    And who, pray tell, FIRED them?!?! That would be the Philander in Chief!!

  179. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    112 Shannon says:
    I voted.
    Man that felt good.

    I voted yesterday, first time I ever early voted – something just special about voting election day but….-, much less the first day. Drug wife, son and ma-in-law down there too!
    Mom and Dad like Dewhurts, I told them election is in August.

  180. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    The Air Force had 8,000 people less in 2006 than in 1999. Commander is not an Air Force rank, I’ll assume it’s a title, e.g. Colonel so-and-so, Wing Commander.
    Again, not to dispute your recollection, I don’t recall Navy RIFs in the late 90’s, there was one in ’93 though. Reductions In Force are mandatory force outs although senior folks usually have a recourse. There were Patrol Squadrons (P-3) in Brunswick, Maine, I do not recall any AWACS squadrons (E-2C), but I don’t pay much attention to Hawkeyes.
    Air Force RIFs seem to happen all the time, but then they are up to their derrieres in officers. What usually happens in the Air Force as I recall is a reduction in rank to E5 and you revert to your rank upon retirement.

  181. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    And who, pray tell, FIRED them?!?! That would be the Philander in Chief!!

    sigh ………
    in 1999 there were 373,046 sailors
    in 2000 there were 373,193 sailors
    in 2006 there were 353,496 sailors
    You’re a smart cookie, figure out who was in charge.

  182. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Gee—
    No mention of soldiers, Marines, Airmen, and the national guard and reserve arm of each branch–
    OH wait, you DID include Naval Reserves in YOUR number—but they don’t actually count the way Dave was counting.
    But you knew that.

  183. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Just the active duty, I also didn’t catch the Coast Guard or Immigration Service. I just worked with the data Dave gave me that made him spit. Pure apples to apples comparison.

  184. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Whew! At least we weren’t discussing poll numbers all day.

  185. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    # 185 gjt

    Drug wife, son and ma-in-law down there too!

    That explains them voting Republican 😉

  186. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Hey, somebody’s gotta be the man of the house. My wife gives me Mondays and Thursdays.

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