Friday Open Comments

I just finished reading the first book of Isaac Asimov’s Foundation series – Foundation. In it, a man who specializes in the field of psycohistory – the prediction of human behavior en masse over long periods of time, not the study of any of a select group of Comfy Couch denizens – sets up conditions to shorten a Dark Age in human history to only a thousand years or so. Hari Seldon is his name, and manipulating all of mankind is his game. Sort of.
It’s late, so I couldn’t do much research on the topic of predicting human behavior. (I predict that I shall be going to bed very, very soon, however.) But I did find one interesting article from the UK Guardian on predicting human behavior and the risks thereof:
First, it’s use as a marketing tool is intriguing. Can a company predict when you’ll be ready to buy their product? Why yes, they want to try, anyway:

By classifying types of people and their behaviours on this basis, shops try to increase their profits by automatically targeting those of us in their databases that seem most likely to buy certain items. Insurance companies use similar methods to reduce fraud by investigating the claims of those whom the software decides are most likely to be lying.

And then the government wants to use it to analyze people. Gadzooks, just think what will happen – just look at the marvelous mess we have for our other major government programs!

“But the government is adopting such techniques for more serious matters. Software at the Department of Work and Pensions, for instance, is beginning to try to detect fraudsters by analysing the voices of people who ring its call centres…”

And they want to use it in their medical program as well:

The idea is to predict life outcomes and trigger early human interventions before things go wrong…even before birth. In this scheme, the unborn child of a pregnant mother might be categorised as at high risk of future criminality based on factors…The mother is then visited regularly at home by a nurse and helped with parenting.

And how about preventing crime?

In the criminal justice system too, risk prediction instruments assess the probability of adults and young people re-offending, along with a battery of other actuarial tests for predicting future sexual and violent crime. Such techniques…play a central role in evaluations to determine whether a person should be committed indefinitely as a dangerous person with severe personality disorder or whether these people, once committed, are ready for release.

That smacks a little of the movie, Minority Report.
Each day, we see the science fiction “future” written years ago coming to life before our eyes. We are talking about travel to Mars, mining asteroids, and living under the sea. We have handheld devices which allow us to communicate all over the world, and those same devices retrieve data for us on verbal request. We have vehicles which fly through the air and under the ocean. There is atomic power and bionic limbs. Doctors are working on implants which restore eyesight to the blind. We replace various organs as an accepted matter of course. Computers play chess, and human made satellites graze the edges of our solar system, heading out into the cold, endless, interstellar space. How far behind are we?
With such once-upon-a-time futuristic endeavors becoming so commonplace, could predicting human behavior become a fact? How will that affect our society? Will there be riots and resistance, or will the upcoming generations accept it as part of their sophisticated lives? What power will it give government? What kind of underground will it foster? How will it affect religion, and the use thereof? Politics? International relations?
Truly troubling: How much of this is already happening?
And will our lives become boring? What effect will being predictable have on our psyche? And can the powers-that-be take that into account as well – making us doubly predictable?
Deep thoughts for the last day of the week.

Comments

  1. El Gordo Avatar

    I can’t even predict my own behavior, much less my cat’s or anyone else for that matter.

  2. El Gordo Avatar

    The Religion of Peace wishes you a happy Ramadan – just don’t forget to duck and cover.
    http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/indonesians-begin-fast-holy-month-ramadan-16817622#.UAksQqD-3nB

  3. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Us guys can take comfort in knowing government computers will become consumed attempting to predict the feminoid behavior, the better it thinks it gets, the more complex the mission. As the layers are unlayered it will discover the layers are infinite, but it is programmed to find the answer.

  4. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    What are these two heavenly bodies this week in the ESE sky about 4:45am? They appear to line up vertically with the Seven Sisters (i think), are dazzlingly bright, and remain visible long after dawn has made the stars disappear.

  5. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    AURORA, Colo. (AP) — A gunman opened fire early Friday at a suburban Denver movie theater on the opening night of the latest Batman movie “The Dark Knight Rises,” killing 14 people and injuring at least 50 others, authorities said.
    The gunman, who is in custody, stood at the front of the theater and fired into the crowd about 12:30 a.m. MDT at a multiplex theater in a mall in Aurora.

    Oh my! Thoughts and prayers for surviving loved ones and all victims.
    Police: 14 dead in Colorado theater shooting

  6. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Cell phone video from inside the theater shortly after the shooting (WARNING, GRAPHIC)

    At least 14 dead and 50 injured after gunman opens fire during showing of ‘The Dark Knight Rises’ at Aurora, Colorado movie theater. Police say they have suspect in custody.

    Like a war zone.

  7. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    GJT
    Not even a super duper computer….

  8. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    ESE sky

    What’s that? Internet search doesn’t come up with this for me.
    Is THIS Seven Sisters?

  9. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    East Southeast

  10. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    G’Morning All
    I’m guessing the top and bottom “stars” were Jupiter and Venus. The one on the right is ?? Last week the 4th quarter exactly fit the pattern on the left forming a perfect diamond. Impressive.

  11. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Obama Spends More Time on Golf Than Economy

    An eye-opening new report by the Government Accountability Institute reveals that President Barack Obama averages just eight minutes more a week on economic meetings than the average dog owner spends walking their dog.
    When it was recently reported that Mr. Obama had played his 100th round of golf, the president said that playing golf was “the only time that for six hours, I’m outside.” Therefore, by his own estimate, the president has spent 600 hours playing golf, as compared to just 412 hours in economic meetings of any kind throughout his presidency.
    “You should know that keeping the economy growing and making sure jobs are available is the first thing I think about when I wake up every morning,” Mr. Obama said in 2011 to an audience of UPS workers. “It’s the last thing I think about when I go to bed each night.”
    But just how little time Mr. Obama has spent working on the economy can be seen in the data contained in the Government Accountability Institute’s analysis:
    Throughout the first 1,257 days of his presidency, Mr. Obama has spent just 412 hours in economic meetings or briefings of any kind
    In 2012, so far Obama has spent just 24 total hours in economic meetings of any kind
    Assuming a six day, 10-hour workweek, Obama has spent less than 4 percent of his total time in economic meetings or briefings of any kind
    There were 773 days (72 percent), excluding Sundays, in which he had no economic meetings
    Mr. Obama has spent an average of 138 minutes a week in economic meetings. According to a study published in the International Journal of Behavioral Nutrition and Physical Activity, new dog owners spent an average of 130 minutes a week walking their dogs
    The study, which was based upon the president’s official schedule, practically bent over backwards to include anything even remotely akin to an economic meeting. For example, “Obama meets with Consumer Product Safety Commission Chairwoman Inez Tenenbaum” was tallied as an economic meeting. Also included was, “Obama meets with Cabinet secretaries,” which may or may not have dealt with economic issues, counted as well.
    Still, with Americans suffering in the worst economy since the Great Depression, Mr. Obama’s time spent in economic meetings came in shockingly low.

  12. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Fred Willard was arrested for lewd conduct last night in Hollywood when police allegedly caught him with his pants down in an adult movie theater … TMZ has learned.

    http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/19/fred-willard-arrested-masturbating/
    He sat there watching his whole career slipping through his fingers.

  13. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    LOL, OTL.
    ABC News reporter (obligatory) – there are numerous gunshops in the surrounding area of the theater, and it is legal to carry in Colorado……

  14. Katfish Avatar

    Sha Na Na – appears to be Jupiter & Venus (below and left of the Pleiades)
    http://www.skyandtelescope.com/observing/ataglance

  15. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I believe you nailed it, Kat.

  16. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Speaking of heavenly bodies,
    Earl Thomas Conley sings…

  17. Hamous Avatar

    Whatever happened to ol’ ETC?

  18. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    He’s still around, according to his site. Playing Tyler, TX next month.

  19. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Good grief. He’s 70.

  20. Hamous Avatar

    Damn. He’s older’n Texpat.

  21. bob42 Avatar

    Tedtam, the entire Foundation series is a good read. I read the original trilogy in high school, and the sequels/prequels as they became available. The collection is on my short list of hard covers I want to keep.
    My best guess is that science and technology will continue the patterns of influence they’ve historically shown, but at a faster pace. Reactions, mass and individual, will be similar, but not entirely predictable on the large scale as in Asimov’s fiction, and even less so at the individual level that neuroscientist Sam Harris (who has been in my stash) claims is theoretically possible.

    With such once-upon-a-time futuristic endeavors becoming so commonplace, could predicting human behavior become a fact? How will that affect our society? Will there be riots and resistance, or will the upcoming generations accept it as part of their sophisticated lives? What power will it give government? What kind of underground will it foster? How will it affect religion, and the use thereof? Politics? International relations?

    Riots? Probably not. (Mental pic of an Amish riot–boring.)
    Resistance? Probably, but to a lesser degree and far fewer numbers than in the past.
    Government? Will be all over it, use it for both good and ill, and attempt to regulate portions that it perceives as a threat.
    Underground? Interesting question. I haven’t observed that reaction to technology to any significant degree. I’m aware that if the internet as we know it suddenly stopped working, IP would continue to provide connectivity via radio (or point to point laser) but at a much slower pace, capacity, and availability. The internet dependent economy would suffer, of course, but it would not be permanent.
    Religion? At times it’s been resistant to technology. I think it will be far less so in the future, and continue to become more diverse and accepting of a shrinking supernatural realm as the inevitable result of science and technology revealing more about the natural world.
    Politics? Will exploit anything it can, as usual. The internet alone has reshaped the way people develop opinions of politicians.
    International relations? I see a positive overall impact. The world has been shrinking ever since the invention of the printing press.

    Truly troubling: How much of this is already happening?

    Don’t worry. Be happy.

  22. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    “We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender…”

  23. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I think I posted something about how Target uses data mining to customize its mailings (to the point that the ones you and your neighbor get will look almost identical at a glance, but will contain different coupons & ads based on your profile & patterns).
    How Target Figured Out A Teen Girl Was Pregnant Before Her Father Did

    As [Target Statistician Andrew] Pole’s computers crawled through the data, he was able to identify about 25 products that, when analyzed together, allowed him to assign each shopper a “pregnancy prediction” score. More important, he could also estimate her due date to within a small window, so Target could send coupons timed to very specific stages of her pregnancy.

    Pretty cool – also a little creepy. Who knew that unscented lotion & cotton balls could be so predictive?

    “If we send someone a catalog and say, ‘Congratulations on your first child!’ and they’ve never told us they’re pregnant, that’s going to make some people uncomfortable,” Pole told me. “We are very conservative about compliance with all privacy laws. But even if you’re following the law, you can do things where people get queasy.” [emphasis in original]

    This is the really cool part:

    “Then we started mixing in all these ads for things we knew pregnant women would never buy, so the baby ads looked random. We’d put an ad for a lawn mower next to diapers. We’d put a coupon for wineglasses next to infant clothes. That way, it looked like all the products were chosen by chance.
    “And we found out that as long as a pregnant woman thinks she hasn’t been spied on, she’ll use the coupons. She just assumes that everyone else on her block got the same mailer for diapers and cribs. As long as we don’t spook her, it works.”

    It’s a pretty good article. The NY Times Magazine has another good related article: How Companies Learn Your Secrets

  24. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    13 OletimerLin
    Dude.
    ick

  25. Hamous Avatar

    I hope Pat’s right:

    Sajak argues that “defining moments take hold most devastatingly when they confirm what a large portion of the electorate already believes.” Anyone can make an unguarded remark or a slip of the tongue. But “when voters are able to nod and say, ‘I knew it,’ these moments stick and do terrible damage.” This, says Sajak, is such a moment.

  26. Hamous Avatar

    There’s this:

    Chick-fil-A has long drawn the ire of pro-homosexual groups for its financial support, to the tune of millions of dollars, of pro-family organizations such as the Fellowship of Christian Athletes, the Family Research Council, the Marriage and Family Foundation, and so on. Most of such donations come from the company’s nonprofit WinShape Foundation, which has existed since 1984.
    In spite of its opposition, the company has thrived. For 44 consecutive years, Chick-fil-A has experienced positive sales growth. Last year, annual sales were over $4.1 billion. Part of this is almost certainly due to the fact that many, especially Christians, who believe in traditional (biblical) marriage go out of their way to support the restaurant.

    And that:

    Given the recent actions of his company, one has to wonder if Penney is not “rolling over in his grave.” Prior to Father’s Day of this year, Penney’s released a print ad that featured a same-sex male couple hugging their two children. The ad reads: “What makes Dad so cool? He’s the swim coach, tent maker, best friend, bike fixer and hug giver-all rolled into one. Or two.”
    The company also featured a lesbian couple in its May catalog for Mother’s Day. This is in addition to hiring outspoken homosexual activist Ellen DeGeneres as spokesperson in early 2012. Early this year, American Family Association and other pro-family organizations began a campaign urging their supporters to contact JC Penney and request that Penney’s at least “remain neutral” in the culture wars.
    There is significant evidence that this campaign is working. In the middle of June of this year, after only 8 months on the job, Penney’s president Michael Francis left the company. Francis was responsible for the hiring of DeGeneres and the pro-same-sex marriage ads.
    Also, since February of this year, Penney’s stock has tumbled. It has lost over 50% of its value, falling from a price of $41.32 to a low of $20.02. What’s more, according to American Family Association, “Standard & Poor’s Ratings Services lowered its credit rating on J.C. Penney Co. further into ‘junk’ status.”

    Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/07/corporate_culturenational_culture.html#ixzz21AfEJkne

  27. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    26 wb
    Yeah, but from my perspective they were vertical and farther apart.

  28. Hamous Avatar

    While I’m on the topic of Bobo’s “culture wars”, can someone please explain this one to me: another Hollywood couple’s daughter wants to “transition” to be a man. But not just any man – a homosexual man:

    “My name is Stephen,” he begins. “I identify as a trans man, a faggy queen, a homosexual, a queer, a nerd fighter, a writer, an artist and a guy who needs a haircut.”

    So if you’re already a girl, and you like guys, wouldn’t it be much easier to remain a girl rather than try to become a girly guy?

  29. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    homophobe

  30. Hamous Avatar

    But see, that’s the problem. In this case am I really a homophobe? This is a girl who likes guys.

  31. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    For all the weenie “occupiers” and garden-variety leftie-wannabe’s out there who think they’re so brave “speaking truth to power”, this is what usually happens when you try to speak truth to real power:

  32. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    But see, that’s the problem. In this case am I really a homophobe? This is a girl who likes guys.

    Yabbut you’re not being sensitive and tolerant enough.

  33. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Tobacco smoke: evil.
    Weed smoke: yay!
    Car exhaust: tolerable.

  34. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    People understandably take for granted aspects their environment. It is stunning for me to look at a night sky out at Shannon’s swankienda out in Austin County. Living at the edge of NYC, the ambient man-made light blocks all but the brightest stars. Driving at night between Houston and Austin or San Antonio is a real treat. Sometimes I’ll just pull over and get out to look at the stars on a dark highway away from any town.
    Up here, the other thing I never quite get used to is the arc of the sun through the sky in the winter. It rises in the southeast, and traverses low in the southern sky setting in late afternoon in the deep southwest. The northern side of our property sees virtually no sun from mid-December to early March.
    The other thing I miss is not seeing livestock all the time. When I come to Texas, I love just driving through the country and seeing the cattle and horses in the pastures – something I always took for granted and never realized how much I would miss if it wasn’t there.

  35. Tedtam Avatar

    #39 Texpat
    When driving Lovely to her high school (before she began to drive herself) we looked for “baby cows” (yes, I know the proper name, but baby cows is more fun to say). Baby cows make me happy, along with baby horses when I can find them. When I go to the bank, I pass by some subdivisions who have turned their retention ponds into features, by the road, and they have been attracting waterfowl. I like to see the ducks, and I am happier when I can see the baby ducks following their momma around.
    I like baby anything. Even baby possums are so ugly they’re cute – for a little while.

  36. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I like to see the ducks, and I am happier when I can see the baby ducks following their momma around.

    Until the last one in line suddenly vanishes because of a turtle.

  37. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    The wack-job shooter in Aurora Co, the same place as the Columbine shootings almost a decade ago, has booby-trapped his apartment. The feds/bomb squad/swat have swarmed the area and have evacuated 5 buildings. All this according to FoxNews. It is quite irritating to hear the talking heads claim that he used an “assault” weapon, when in fact it was merely a semi-auto. The perp told the cops that his apt was booby trapped. The perp did not resist the police while being taken into custody.
    JUgEars was able to shift away from a scheduled campaign event in FL to speak about the event and surprisingly he DID NOT call for more stringent gun control. I can only imagine that is right around the corner.
    What would be particularly galling would be to learn that one of the weapons used was traceable to the F and F debacle.

  38. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    Anybody considering buying a Droid phone should also consider spending the extra $99 to get the Razr Maxx.
    Battery charge time is worth every penny. Pretty amazing.

  39. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Ann Coulter wrote a pretty searing column describing the D snake in essence, eating its own tail.

    According to recent polls, Obama has a negative job approval rating of 45 to 49 percent. The reason the polls are tied between Obama and Romney is that single women support Obama by a 2-to-1 margin. The Democrats’ siren song to single women is: Don’t worry, the government will be your husband.
    Our prisons are overflowing with the results of the Democrats’ experiment of subsidizing illegitimacy. Children raised by a single mothers commit 72 percent of juvenile murders, 60 percent of rapes, have 70 percent of teenaged births, commit 70 percent of suicides and are 70 percent of high school dropouts.
    Controlling for socioeconomic status, race and place of residence, the strongest predictor of whether a person will end up in prison is being raised by a single parent. (The second strongest predictor is having a tattoo.)

    If you gain perpetual power but destroy the country in the process, what have you really won?

  40. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Didja hear about the two gay lawyers who tried each other?

  41. bob42 Avatar

    #42 Bonecrusher, I blame Operation Fast & Furious. (And Teh Gayz, of course.)

  42. TexMo Avatar
    TexMo

    Blessed are those who suffer at the hand of the dentist and dental hygienist for great is their reward of glowing pearly whites. I really do not like the dentist office. That is probably the reason my blood pressure is always up when I visit one.

  43. TexMo Avatar
    TexMo

    Google has a free app called Google Sky. You just point your phone in the direction you want to look at and you will see all the stars and planets in that direction. It makes adjustments for your latitude and longitude based on your GPS position. It works really well.

  44. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    I’ve started using Accuweather again since Hamous’ favorite weatherman, Joe Bastardi, left the place.
    Their free Droid app is pretty good. Wednesday, we had a line of very severe thunderstorms coming through and all the sudden I heard this audio alarm go off exactly like the one used on radio. It took me a minute to figure out it was my phone with a severe weather alert.

  45. Hamous Avatar

    It is quite irritating to hear the talking heads claim that he used an “assault” weapon, when in fact it was merely a semi-auto.

    Learn your newspeak. Assault Weapon – any gun used to murder someone.

  46. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #43 Texpat
    Charge time on the Samsung Focus I have for work is measured with a calendar. iPhone isn’t too bad.

  47. bob42 Avatar

    These are the rantings of xenophobic far right wing conspiracy theorist and inflammatory political propagandist:

    …liberals have been playing a long-term game to change the demographics of America to get an electorate more to their liking.
    They will do incalculable damage to the nation and to individual citizens, but Democrats will have an unbeatable majority. Just like California, the United States is on its way to becoming a Third World, one-party state. [Run for your lifes!]
    – – –
    The “browning of America” is not a natural process. It’s been artificially imposed by Democrats who are confident of their abilities to turn Third World immigrants into government patrons. [Don’t forget the UFOs… Democrats are human alien hybrids!]
    – – –
    Liberals’ other plan to expand the Democratic rolls has been to destroy the family.
    – – –
    Every time someone gets a divorce, Democrats think: We got a new Democratic voter! Every time a child is born out of wedlock: We got a new Democratic voter! And if the woman has an abortion — we got a new Democratic voter! [No joking, this is just plain delusional.]

    In her article, “Convert ‘um or kill ‘um” Coulter selectively cites more than one survey, but only vaguely references one. There are no links to her data, at all. She provides no evidence that what she claims about the motivation of those evil godless libruls is true. When you peel off the authoritarian xenophobic hyperbole, there isn’t even enough in her piece to fact check.
    But giving credit where it’s due, she’s a dominionist authoritarian nutjob second, and a political propagandist first. (And there’s no truth to the rumor that she’s a tranny.)

  48. Katfish Avatar

    Welp my Son & Family living in Aurora are AOK (THANK you LORD!)
    the reporting is continuous at this point
    http://www.9news.com/

  49. Tedtam Avatar

    Just finished my workout and shower. I feel so much better. I haven’t exercised in days.
    Next up – time with the saxophone. Since I was sick last week, I haven’t played it but once since I got it back.
    Of course, that’s AFTER I do some paperwork! /groans

  50. Hamous Avatar

    You don’t like the data so she must be lying, right?
    Squaaaaaaaackkkkkk! Squaaaaaaackkkkk!

  51. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Bloomberg wants to know what Romney & Obama plan to do to eliminate mass shootings.
    We already know one of them was freely passing guns out to known criminals.
    The number of deaths due to guns prolly pales in comparison to the number killed every year due to Big Gulps flinging themselves down people’s throats.

  52. Tedtam Avatar

    I don’t see this a gun control failure.
    I see this as an enforcement failure.
    Or just a crazed loon taking advantage of the situation.
    I say, we issue laws abolishing crazy loons.
    That would solve a lot of problems.
    And clear out Congress, too.

  53. bob42 Avatar

    #55 Hamous, uh, no. That would be silly.

    You don’t like the data so she must be lying, right?

    What data? If you’re gullible enough to believe a political propagandist who claims to some degree to be an author/journalist but does not cite sources, that’s your problem.
    Reversing your silly non-logic, do you believe Coulter’s conspiracy theories simply because you like her “data?” (I didn’t think so…)

  54. Tedtam Avatar

    Frankly, I like Coulter simply because her sarcastic wit drives libs crazy.
    /making popcorn

  55. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    The number of deaths due to guns prolly pales in comparison to the number killed every year due to Big Gulps flinging themselves down people’s throats.

    Pales in comparison to:
    the number of people dying from taking their own prescription meds as prescribed
    hospital induced sepsis
    blunders in surgery
    car crashes
    complications from smoking
    cancer from whatever source
    liver failure due to chronic alcoholism
    feel free to add to the list.

  56. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Sure is nice to see another guy coming here indignently demanding we denounce Ann Coulter. I’m almost getting misty eyed from the nostalgia.
    Some folks might think that these tactics are trite and unimaginative, but I do think that its helpful to us to see trite and unimaginative tactics and those who use them so that we can be properly armed with that knowledge when we venture forth into discussions with other folk.
    Hey Bobo—
    You never did make any comment about the Democrats who were saying that the Bain Bane character in the Batman movie was based on Romney.
    Got any?

  57. Tedtam Avatar

    I just got a message that my aunt, who lives in Arizona, is about to transition out of this life and into her next. This will leave my mother with one living sibling. My mom and the Arizona aunt used to be very, very close. I never met the relatives in Arizona.
    Please keep my mother, my aunt, and all of the family in your prayers as they go through this difficult time.

  58. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #62 TT
    I am glad to note you seem to be closer to your mother than you used to be. I can remember a few posts way back in which you said she had long been downright mean to you. Age mellows us all, I think. Take care, dear lady.

  59. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Lib reaction to Coulter

  60. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    What data? If you’re gullible enough to believe a political propagandist who claims to some degree to be an author/journalist but does not cite sources, that’s your problem.

    Hey Kettle, you black SOB! You suck! Everything about you is black and you suck!
    signed
    Mr. Pot (head)

  61. Tedtam Avatar

    I try to love the old lady, but dang! she makes it difficult. We have some good times, and then there’s the grin-through-your-teeth-while-restraining-the-urge-to-wrap-hands-around-her-throat times. We actually enjoyed our last outing together, even though it was a doctor visit for her.
    I have told Lovely to slap me if I ever get to be like her.

  62. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #62 TT: So sorry to hear about your Aunt. Knee mail on the way.

  63. bob42 Avatar

    #61 Sarge, it might be nice if it were true, but…

    Sure is nice to see another guy coming here indignently demanding we denounce Ann Coulter.

    I don’t “demand” that you or anyone else “renounce” anything. I don’t care if you believe every word that dibbles from the propagandists’ lips without doing a single shred of critical thinking or examining their evidence. Again, your gullibility and ideological bias are your problem, not mine.

    You never did make any comment about the Democrats who were saying that the Bain Bane character in the Batman movie was based on Romney.

    Show me some links to folks saying that the “Bane character in the Batman movie was based on Romney” and I’ll be happy to share my opinion. So far I’ve seen some clever photoshops, but nothing I take seriously. That said, I’m certain that some democrats will spew propaganda based on it, just like some republicans spout erroneous nonsense for political reasons.
    I’m also sure that some democrats will believe the lie, just as some republicans believe the lies they are told. It’s called politics, and it’s a dishonest sport by nature.

  64. Hamous Avatar

    What data? If you’re gullible enough to believe a political propagandist who claims to some degree to be an author/journalist but does not cite sources, that’s your problem.

    I know what your problem is. You’re a fool. If someone cites statistics, and I question those statistics, I don’t immediately denounce the person as an “authoritarian xenophobe”. I look for stats to confirm or disagree with the premise. Not you, though. You immediately fall into your tired old routine. Anyone with half a brain (apparently that excludes you) knows there are countless studies that show the children of single mothers are much more likely to commit crimes, just like Coulter cites.

  65. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Yah Bobo.
    Whatever you say

    Show me some links to folks saying that the “Bane character in the Batman movie was based on Romney” and I’ll be happy to share my opinion.

    Scrooooooollllll up to the top of the page.
    Hit the link that goes back to yesterday’s posts.
    Scroooooolllllllll down until you get to the two posts that both I and Texpat made showing the initial mentions of Bane/Bain in the press as proof that Limbaugh was commenting on them.
    Scrooolllll dwon a bit more until you find where you were asked several times to comment on them.
    Then scroooollll back up to the top of that page, hit the link that takes you back to this one, then scrooooolllll down until you get to this comment box and let us know what you think.
    Mmmmmkay?

  66. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Dead Man Stands At His Own Wake
    ‘Uncle’ Lionel Batiste gets sendoff as unique as the man himself Keith Spera, The Times-Picayune 07/19/2012 7:36 PM
    Blues guitarist Little Freddie King and his drummer/manager, “Wack-O” Wade Wright, stood outside the Charbonnet-Labat Funeral Home in Treme on Thursday afternoon, pondering the scene inside for “Uncle” Lionel Batiste’s wake. “They’ve got him fixed up beautiful,” King said of the deceased, the Treme Brass Band drummer and renowned New Orleans character.
    Wade agreed. “They’ve even got his watch on the mannequin’s hand,” he said, referring to the life-like figure standing in the funeral home’s chapel.
    That wasn’t a mannequin, King replied. “That’s him.”
    In a send-off as unique as the man himself, Mr. Batiste wasn’t lying in his cypress casket. Instead, his body was propped against a faux street lamp, standing, decked out in his signature man-about-town finery.

  67. bob42 Avatar

    #69 Hamous, if your stubbornly closed mind will open up enough to read what I actually said above, my major beef with that Coulter propaganda is that she DID NOT provide any links to her source data. None. Nada. Zippo. Not even a full freaking title. Gee Einstein, why do ya think that she left them out?
    Without source data to substantiate her claims, her irrational, ideologically motivated rantings are worthy of exactly as much credibility as yours are, which is to say, nothing.
    Believe what you like, for whatever silly reasons compel you! I don’t care! (But it would be nice if you didn’t shove words down my throat that originated in your mind of flawed perceptions.)

  68. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Heh.
    In response to the report that ABC made noted in #37 above, Iowahawk has tweeted every reference to a Brian Ross he can find in the media.

  69. Katfish Avatar

    IMHO – any FREE (for now) citizen voter that “chooses to skip the box” in November is in effect BEGGING for more of THIS:
    IRS, Labor Department persecute Idaho man who was named to Obama’s enemies list
    FYI sideber – I just had to HAND TYPE the link into the word press link box function – it refused to accept my PASTE of the copied linky – coincidental glitch??

  70. bob42 Avatar

    #70 Sarge, I looked at both links. My opinion is that anyone who suggests that Bane = Bain hasn’t done their homework.
    Are the dems going to politicize the similarity of names to their advantage where possible? Of course they are! It’s called politics, remember?
    It takes a true conspiracy nut or at the very least a political propagandist to try to convince folks that the naming of the character was some sort of conspiracy, and that is exactly what Limbaugh did.
    Speaking of delusional authoritarian nutjobs and pandering political propagandists, I wonder what Rep. Louie Gohmert thinks about the motives of the shooter at the CO movie theater. 😉

  71. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    73 Sarge
    Was flipping around the radio and Beck found that ‘Brian Ross’ was a convicted child molester.

  72. Hamous Avatar

    Without source data to substantiate her claims…

    Asking for source data to prove a claim that children raised by single mothers are more likely to commit crimes is like asking for source data to prove the claim that the sun rises in the east. Are you really this obtuse?

  73. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #64 Pyro
    Love the snot bubbles, a classy touch.

  74. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    That’s me.
    Mr. Classy.

  75. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    In other news, water is wet.
    Film at 11:00.

  76. bob42 Avatar

    Hamous

    Are you really this obtuse?

    Are you really that gullible?
    If I see the evidence that more offspring of single parents commit more crimes, I’d have no trouble accepting it. You apparently do not need evidence, and your gal Ann certainly did not provide any.
    But your buddy Coulter doesn’t stop with screaming scary stats from unknown and undisclosed sources, she goes on to concoct some sort of wild evul librul conspiracy to increase whatever bad outcomes may come from single parenthood. Do you really believe that part of her political propaganda is true?
    I think you’re smart enough to know how stupid and unsubstantiated Coulter’s theory really is.

  77. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    In other news, gay men are more likely to contract the AIDS virus.

  78. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #74 Katfishy

    coincidental glitch??

    (cue Darth Vader theme music)
    Keep a watch for black helicopters over the treetops. Closer up, be sure that hummingbird fluttering around your kitchen window right now doesn’t have a tiny antenna on the top of its metallic head.

  79. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Aurora Police chief Dan Oates said Holmes’ apartment is booby trapped with a “sophisticated” maze of flammable devices. It could take hours or days for authorities to disarm it.

  80. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Libertarians For More Bastards!!!

  81. Hamous Avatar

    I guess he really is that obtuse.

  82. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Heh heh heh.
    He said ‘booby’

  83. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Bob hit a trifecta.
    He suffers chronic acute obtuse brainal function.

  84. timdenchanter Avatar
    timdenchanter

    #30 Hamous –
    Looks like Office Depot is following the lead of JC Penney by teaming up with Lady Gaga to indoctrinate kids into believing they are born gay.
    Check it out here.

  85. Tedtam Avatar

    #89 Tim
    Well, I may be moving my business to Staples.
    More because I don’t think OD has any business getting into politics. Why do these companies do this crap??? It’s frustrating. (I know – OFFER IT UP!) Just run your business, make money, hire people, boost the economy, and give TBO the credit.
    Homosexuality has nothing to do with my printer ink.

  86. bob42 Avatar

    I have an open mind… Maybe Coulter and you guys are right. Maybe any “other than republican” person is hell bent on increasing illegitimate/teenage births and destroying families. Electing more republicans would automatically drive those bad stats down!
    What the heck, my mind is so freaking open, I’ll even agree with you! (Now there’s a scary thought…)
    In November, I’m voting straight ticket republican because every day I tremble in fear that a unwed teenage pregnant lesbian Mexican Muslim narco-terrorist might sneak across the border with a suitcase nuke, sell meth to my kids, convert them to Islam, drop the anchor baby, blow up the hospital, and marry my sister.
    And I don’t even have a sister.

  87. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Texpat and I were the first latchkey kids of a single Mom in 1950’s Texas.
    It’s a long, sordid tale of juvenile crime and mayhem.

  88. timdenchanter Avatar
    timdenchanter

    A bill introduced this morning by Representative Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-Tx) will expand the area of authority for Homeland Security and the Transportation Security Administration to include movie theaters. The installation of full body scanners, metal detectors and sensors to detect the presence of explosives is expected to begin immediately and be completed by 2016. Theaters with twenty or more seats will be included in the new area of authority under the proposed legislation. All entrances to the impacted theaters will be monitored. Theater exits are not included in the bill because, according to Rep. Jackson-Lee, “Ever’body knows nobody takes bombs and guns out of a theater.”
    Under the terms of the bill, theater goers passively surrender their Constitutional rights when they buy a ticket. Ticket holders will be required to arrive at the theater at least two hours prior to the scheduled start time of the movie in order to complete the security checks. The cost of implementation for this bill will be added to the regular ticket price paid by theater customers. The additional fee is expected to range between $50 and $75 depending on the rating of the movie, the age of the ticket holder and the starting time of the movie.
    Some theaters will be exempted including those dedicated to adult entertainment. People attending adult theaters will be checked for proper ID showing proof of age only but not citizenship or voter eligibility. The bill exempts Union members, undocumented workers and members of Congress.
    The proposed legislation may be seen here: http://www.inmatesruntheassylum.com
    . . . . . (Not a real news story yet but it prolly will be) . . . . .

  89. bob42 Avatar

    #92 My bro and I were raised by a single mom as well. I’m a proud single dad of two daughters. To make matters worse, I have a tattoo. It’s a wonder I’m not on death row.

  90. Tedtam Avatar

    #94 Bob

    It’s a wonder I’m not on death row.

    Well….there HAS been some speculation behind the scenes….

  91. timdenchanter Avatar
    timdenchanter

    #94 Bob
    Having spent several years as an employee inside TDC and a lot of time on Death Row when it was on the Ellis Unit, I can assure you it is not a place to which one should aspire.

  92. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Bob, you were never a single dad. You were a married dad and then you became a divorced dad. Your daughters were never illegitimate.
    I know this is a revelation in an age that seeks to erase any distinction between (likely accidental) parents who were never married, and parents who were.
    This was one of Dr Laura Schlessinger’s most important messages, and I surely do miss hearing her say it on the radio.

  93. Tedtam Avatar

    Breitbart has a Drudge-esque headline:
    People Magazine Strokes Weiner

  94. timdenchanter Avatar
    timdenchanter

    Just saw Fox News laying part of the blame on high capacity magazines.

  95. timdenchanter Avatar
    timdenchanter

    Oh, and one hundred. Nap time!

  96. Hamous Avatar

    This is all a ruse by Bobo. Admitting that a traditional family is the most ideal situation would be renouncing his baptism into the Church of the Rainbow. Why, those tolerant coexisters might excommunicate him!

  97. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Oh.
    I guess Mom was a divorcee single Mom.

  98. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #102 Shannon
    I knew that.

  99. Hamous Avatar

    And your father wasn’t gone, as in not in the picture at all.

  100. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Okay. We weren’t juvenile delinquents, either.
    Mostly.

  101. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    It was all his fault.

  102. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    At least back then, kids could get into a little trouble. Half the stuff I pulled off would get me locked up today.
    Geriatric Geezer woulda been the target of a dragnetesque manhunt with orders to be shot on sight for what he and his brothers and friends did.

  103. bob42 Avatar

    My brother was conceived before our parents’ 3 year long “traditional” marriage began. Does that make him illegitimate, or do shotgun weddings count? Either way, does it really make any practical difference considering the numerous other variables?
    I’ve never doubted the fact that some studies have shown that two parents offer an “ideal” offspring outcome. But it would be naive and authoritarian to suggest that government be empowered to guarantee or enforce compliance to that environment.
    But Coulter and her ilk don’t stop there. They go on to suggest that one entire wing of the political bird has a conspiratorial goal of increasing rates of less than desirable outcomes, and even more irrational, suggest that a single (republican) party majority would actually mitigate the challenges facing families today. I think that’s delusional.

  104. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I was powerless against the influence of such domineering deviousness.

  105. Hamous Avatar

    But it would be naive and authoritarian to suggest that government be empowered to guarantee or enforce compliance to that environment.

    Who in the hell is suggesting that? What she (and thousands of others) is saying is don’t empower the government to destroy that environment. That is what LBJ’s “great society” did and what every Democrat politician continues to support. For the record, I don’t think LBJ planned on destroying the family, it was an unfortunate side effect of his policies. Democrats for the last 40 years have known how damaging they were and still try to convert more of the population into wards of the state. THAT is a conspiracy and it’s real.

  106. Katfish Avatar

    #92 – My silence cannot be BOUGHT (but it CAN be rented 🙂 )

  107. Katfish Avatar

    And for the inevitable “gee I wonder if the Aurora nutbar killer had any help getting those weapons into a theater? department…..”
    I just heard on KTRH that “authorities” report (whoops now Bob won’t believe it) that the perp bought a movie ticket, joined the crowd inside, snuck up and propped open an exit door (likely with duct tape – oh NO what will NASCAR use now?) and then left the theater, geared up and entered through aforementioned pre-prepped exit door…………….

  108. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #111 hamster
    Problem is they don’t see the results of the great society as due to the program per se, it’s because enough money has never been allocated to fully implement it.

  109. El Gordo Avatar

    I’m amazed that no one is looking at the obvious. Fast and Furious was a bust for gun control, so the tactics had to change. There’s an election coming up, and the issues the incumbent have been relying on don’t look too good, so time for another Waco moment to remind the sheeple who is really in charge. Tea Party group, Occupy group, terrorist group are all suspect, but what about the one group who really needs an issue.

  110. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    115
    By jove!!! You’re on to something there.
    It was The Paulbots!!!

  111. Hamous Avatar

    It’s the people producing The Bourne Legacy.

  112. Katfish Avatar

    TGIF and a summer-ish musical interlude…………
    Janis – Summertime

  113. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Texmo #48;

    Google has a free app called Google Sky.

    Aha! I was at a scout campout about a year ago and one of the parents there was using that app which i thought was amazingly cool but ofr the life of me I could not identify the name of the app. Thanks for that. If I ever get n Android phone, I’ll look into that.

  114. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    OBozo had everything given to him on a silver platter and that is why he claims those who built their own businesses didn’t do it by themselves. It happened that way in his life, he never had to earn anything so that is the way he thinks it works with everybody, he is totally self absorbed and lacks the capacity to reason beyond his own existence. Bobo, today, has demonstrated those same characteristics.

  115. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    bob #52;

    These are the rantings of xenophobic far right wing conspiracy theorist and inflammatory political propagandist:

    At first I thought you were going to talk about the Republican Party of Texas but it did make sense that you were referringto Ann Coulter. I’m still trying to figure out if your bracketed interjections were supposed to be funny, clever, and / or insightful. I still have to suck up the drool of boredom from reading them.

    “Convert ‘um or kill ‘um” Coulter …

    See, now that was a very good sarcastic remark Coulter made some years ago. It was based on truth (Christianity has indeed improved the world we live in) and palced in an outrageous box (like Coulter, Christians do not actually believe nor practice what Coulter suggested and she knew as much) which made it very good satire. It did not prostitute anyone. It did not denegrate any person. It promoted truth. This is why I liked her comment and I can see why you do not and even use it against her to present Ann coulter as something of an entity of evil.
    Thanx for the post. Now do stare at your Ann Coulter poster in your house (don’t want to know which room it’s in) next to the Michelle Bachman and sarah Palin posters.

  116. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    (And there’s no truth to the rumor that she’s a tranny.)

    I’m laughing histerically at that remark. I mean, it makes Ann Coulter seem a sex pervert or something. That’s fresh and original. Esecially from bob’s satire.

  117. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    The The President of the United States’ speech marking Ramadan

    On behalf of the American people – including Muslim communities in all fifty states – I want to extend best wishes to Muslims in America and around the world. Ramadan Kareem.
    Ramadan is the month in which Muslims believe the Koran was revealed to the Prophet Muhammad, beginning with a simple word – iqra. It is therefore a time when Muslims reflect upon the wisdom and guidance that comes with faith, and the responsibility that human beings have to one another, and to God.

  118. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Katfish #53;
    That’s excellent news!!!

  119. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Not that the ‘music’ currently being produced sucks ……………

    In the two decades since Nielsen Soundscan started to keep track of U.S. album sales in 1991, the company has seen the industry fold in half, digital sales catch up to physical, and vinyl mount a resurgence. But until last week, they’d never seen old records outsell new ones.

    Just sayin ………………………..

  120. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    The party starts to move toward the center

    House Majority Leader Eric Cantor Thursday urged his party, and the nation, to guard against intolerance on issues ranging from gay marriage to the role of Muslims in the government, arguing the country’s diversity of opinion and acceptance are part of America’s basic fabric.

  121. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Shamaal #123;
    Here’s the entire text bold mine:

    behalf of the American people – including Muslim communities in all fifty states – I want to extend best wishes to Muslims in America and around the world. Ramadan Kareem.
    Ramadan is the month in which Muslims believe the Koran was revealed to the Prophet Muhammad, beginning with a simple word – iqra. It is therefore a time when Muslims reflect upon the wisdom and guidance that comes with faith, and the responsibility that human beings have to one another, and to God.
    Like many people of different faiths who have known Ramadan through our communities and families, I know this to be a festive time – a time when families gather, friends host iftars, and meals are shared. But I also know that Ramadan is a time of intense devotion and reflection – a time when Muslims fast during the day and perform tarawih prayers at night, reciting and listening to the entire Koran over the course of the month.
    These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.
    For instance, fasting is a concept shared by many faiths – including my own Christian faith – as a way to bring people closer to God, and to those among us who cannot take their next meal for granted. And the support that Muslims provide to others recalls our responsibility to advance opportunity and prosperity for people everywhere. For all of us must remember that the world we want to build – and the changes that we want to make – must begin in our own hearts, and our own communities.
    This summer, people across America have served in their communities – educating children, caring for the sick, and extending a hand to those who have fallen on hard times. Faith-based organizations, including many Islamic organizations, have been at the forefront in participating in this summer of service. And in these challenging times, this is a spirit of responsibility that we must sustain in the months and years to come.
    Beyond America’s borders, we are also committed to keeping our responsibility to build a world that is more peaceful and secure. That is why we are responsibly ending the war in Iraq. That is why we are isolating violent extremists while empowering the people in places like Afghanistan and Pakistan. That is why we are unyielding in our support for a two-state solution that recognizes the rights of Israelis and Palestinians to live in peace and security. And that is why America will always stand for the universal rights of all people to speak their mind, practice their religion, contribute fully to society and have confidence in the rule of law.
    All of these efforts are a part of America’s commitment to engage Muslims and Muslim-majority nations on the basis of mutual interest and mutual respect. And at this time of renewal, I want to reiterate my commitment to a new beginning between America and Muslims around the world.
    As I said in Cairo, this new beginning must be borne out in a sustained effort to listen to each other, to learn from each other, to respect one another, and to seek common ground. I believe an important part of this is listening, and in the last two months, American embassies around the world have reached out not just to governments, but directly to people in Muslim-majority countries. From around the world, we have received an outpouring of feedback about how America can be a partner on behalf of peoples’ aspirations.
    We have listened. We have heard you. And like you, we are focused on pursuing concrete actions that will make a difference over time – both in terms of the political and security issues that I have discussed, and in the areas that you have told us will make the most difference in peoples’ lives.
    These consultations are helping us implement the partnerships that I called for in Cairo – to expand education exchange programs; to foster entrepreneurship and create jobs; and to increase collaboration on science and technology, while supporting literacy and vocational learning. We are also moving forward in partnering with the OIC and OIC member states to eradicate polio, while working closely with the international community to confront common health challenges like H1N1 – which I know is of particular to concern to many Muslims preparing for the upcoming hajj.
    All of these efforts are aimed at advancing our common aspirations – to live in peace and security; to get an education and to work with dignity; to love our families, our communities, and our God. It will take time and patient effort. We cannot change things over night, but we can honestly resolve to do what must be done, while setting off in a new direction – toward the destination that we seek for ourselves, and for our children. That is the journey that we must travel together.
    I look forward to continuing this critically important dialogue and turning it into action. And today, I want to join with the 1.5 billion Muslims around the world – and your families and friends – in welcoming the beginning of Ramadan, and wishing you a blessed month. May God’s peace be upon you.

    After the bold it’s just a bunch of political propaganda. I’m not interested inthat. I’m interested if President Obama will use similar descriptors for Christians during the month of December. Will he use words like “prophet” “God” and phrases like “intense devotion and reflection”, “faith”, “festive times”, “family”, etc. I’m fine with his descriptors of Ramadan, I’m just curious as to what he’ll say this December.

  122. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    from my inbox:
    Imagine the old bat Maxine sitting in her chair smoking a cigarette. . . . . .

    Subject: Maxine on Mustang Ranch
    BAIL THEM OUT???!! Hell, back in 1990 the gov’t seized the Mustang Ranch brothel for income tax evasion, and as required by law, they were required to try and run the business. They failed and it closed. Now we are trusting our economy, banking industry, auto industry, and health care industry to the same bunch of nit-wits who couldn’t make money running a whorehouse and selling whiskey?? What the heck were we thinking??

  123. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Tedtam #62;

    Please keep my mother, my aunt, and all of the family in your prayers as they go through this difficult time.

    We’ll do. I particularly hope and pray for peace and comfort upon your family.

  124. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    wagon #64;
    Whoohoo. In a few short months I get to experience first hand scenes just like that one!!!

  125. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I have told Lovely to slap me if I ever get to be like her.

    I’m off to buy lovely her next Christmas present. She’ll love it.

  126. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    #127 Darren
    The bolding didn’t come through, however you don’t have to wait for the upcoming December, you could examine the President’s previous messages on Christmas, Passover and probably half-a-dozen other religiously festive occasions. This is from the Christmas Tree lighting last Christmas

    For 89 years, Presidents and Americans have come together to light the National Christmas Tree. And this year is a special one. This year, we have a brand new tree. The last one stood here for more than 30 years — until we lost it in a storm earlier this year. But we all know that this tradition is much larger than any single tree. And tonight, once again, we gather here not simply to light some decorations, but to honor a story that lights the world.
    More than 2,000 years ago, a child was born to two faithful travelers who could find rest only in a stable, among the cattle and the sheep. But this was not just any child. Christ’s birth made the angels rejoice and attracted shepherds and kings from afar. He was a manifestation of God’s love for us. And He grew up to become a leader with a servant’s heart who taught us a message as simple as it is powerful: that we should love God, and love our neighbor as ourselves.
    That teaching has come to encircle the globe. It has endured for generations. And today, it lies at the heart of my Christian faith and that of millions of Americans. No matter who we are, or where we come from, or how we worship, it’s a message that can unite all of us on this holiday season.
    So long as the gifts and the parties are happening, it’s important for us to keep in mind the central message of this season, and keep Christ’s words not only in our thoughts, but also in our deeds. In this season of hope, let’s help those who need it most –- the homeless, the hungry, the sick and shut in. In this season of plenty, let’s reach out to those who struggle to find work or provide for their families. In this season of generosity, let’s give thanks and honor to our troops and our veterans, and their families who’ve sacrificed so much for us. And let’s welcome all those who are happily coming home. (Applause.)
    And this holiday season, let us reaffirm our commitment
    to each other, as family members, as neighbors, as Americans, regardless of our color or creed or faith. Let us remember that we are one, and we are a family.
    So on behalf of Malia and Sasha and Michelle and our grandmother-in-chief, Marian — (laughter) — I wish you all the happiest holiday season, the merriest of Christmases. God bless you all, and may God bless the United States of America.

  127. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    He sat there watching his whole career slipping through his fingers.

    or you could say he was caught with his Mitt on his Willard 😉

  128. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Wow..unbelievable…bob just did a post bashing Ann Coulter, who is, get this, a Republican voter, and when asked about democrats he said:

    That said, I’m certain that some democrats will spew propaganda based on it, just like some republicans spout erroneous nonsense for political reasons.

    He had to dig at the Republicans while also digging at Democrats. So, bob bashes Republicans all by themselves and bashes Democrats *only* if he can also bash Republicans. Who would have seen that coming from bob?

  129. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Shamaal #132;

    The bolding didn’t come through

    Should be seen in paragraphs 2-5.

    So long as the gifts and the parties are happening, it’s important for us to keep in mind the central message of this season, and keep Christ’s words not only in our thoughts, but also in our deeds.

    Well said, Mr. president.
    Thanks, Shamaal.

  130. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    bob #81;

    If I see the evidence that more offspring of single parents commit more crimes, I’d have no trouble accepting it.

    Wanna volunteer in being my teaching aide any given school year?

  131. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Shannon #85;
    🙂

  132. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    timedenchanter #89;
    If that’s the case I guess I’ll be visiting Lowes more.

  133. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    Bob, you were never a single dad. You were a married dad and then you became a divorced dad. Your daughters were never illegitimate.

    The reverberations of that fool being un-nailed from his cross and falling forward into full belly flop with face plant should be felt for some distance.

  134. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Oops, you said *Office* Depot. Like Tedtam I’ll go to Staples although I have never shopped much at either store.

  135. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    In November, I’m voting straight ticket republican because every day I tremble in fear that a unwed teenage pregnant lesbian Mexican Muslim narco-terrorist might sneak across the border with a suitcase nuke, sell meth to my kids, convert them to Islam, drop the anchor baby, blow up the hospital, and marry my sister.
    And I don’t even have a sister.

    Is that the 4 billionth time bob’s made that joke?

  136. Tedtam Avatar

    Although I don’t go to Home Depot anymore, unless absolutely forced to do so. HD supported illegals in some mmmghph last year or so. I can’t remember what the political item was, just that it wissed me off.
    And I sometimes feel like have to run an “illegal” gauntlet when going to our local Home Depot. They don’t bother me, because they stick to the sidewalk area and I don’t make the mistake of slowing down as I pass through them, but I have to be careful not to run any of them over. Sometimes they are awful thick, crowdwise.
    Lowes – I never see them there.

  137. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    bob #109;

    But it would be naive and authoritarian to suggest that government be empowered to guarantee or enforce compliance to that environment.

    Bob, you can stop right therre. Ann Coulter’s point was that the government has bee empowered to guarantee that single moms get the same status as married moms, rights and all. This has been done in great part through the courts which eroded legal distinctions between married and unmarried mothers. By blurring the distiction in legislation unwed pregnancies is bound to rise. The more unwed pregnancies, the more people will be seeking government help. The more they do that the more they’ll support the candidates who’ll promise them governmental help. Gary Johnson should be sharply opposed to this Democrat effort to create a populace dependent on the government.
    That was Coulter’s main point. You condemn her for supporting your own opposition to empowering government to create generations of weeners.

  138. Tedtam Avatar

    Channel 11 has nonstop coverage of the shooting.
    I mean, what’s new, after so many hours of coverage? Are they going to examine bowel movements of the deceased?
    I’m moving on to another channel.
    BTW – I just finished practicing my music. I made it just over half an hour before my lip started to go. What was frustrating was my inability to match my music note changes to my articulation. It’s like having the hiccups and trying to talk. (That means when I tried to separate notes with my tongue on the reed, they weren’t coordinated with my fingers changing the notes on my horn. This should happen at the same time.) ARRGGHHH!
    Offer it up!

  139. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #92 Shannon
    For crying out loud, do you have to air ALL of our dirty laundry ?

    Texpat and I were the first latchkey kids of a single Mom in 1950′s Texas.
    It’s a long, sordid tale of juvenile crime and mayhem.

  140. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Hee hee

  141. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    #143, Pretty annoying. Home Depot has moved into the commercial market. There are many items we can buy there and save the counter wait at a supply house. Running the illegal gauntlet is a drag. Try driving into one in a pick up truck. Lowes seems stuck in residential but they have a constable cruiser in the parking lot.

  142. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #109 Bob42

    I’ve never doubted the fact that some studies have shown that two parents offer an “ideal” offspring outcome. But it would be naive and authoritarian to suggest that government be empowered to guarantee or enforce compliance to that environment.

    I have a great authoritarian idea.
    Once Romney is elected, has all pornographers sent to Gitmo, executes all the gays and lesbians, and confines all the druggies to concentration camps, then he should have mass forced marriages and I think he should start the first marital ceremony with, of course…
    …Bob42 and Ann Coulter.
    Romance is so sweet.
    The whole idea is so touching.
    Just think…

  143. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    While i’ve no desire to politicize the Aurora shoooting, I have listened to both President Obama’s and prwesidential hopeful, Mitt Romney’s speeches which both offered condolences over this shooting. The following Drudge hweadlines do reflect the character of both these men.

    Obama leads prayer, moment of silence…
    Romney Gathers for ‘Word of Prayer’…

    I think this shows a true character of the two. I find Romney’s speech much more poignant, meaningful, and very natural. In other words, he spoke as Mitt Romney and what he personally thinks and feels. Gathering for a “moment of silence” is less forceful, vague, and less meaningful. It’s a politically-correct way to replace “prayer” though granted in and of itself it is a prayer and nothing stops people from inidivually saying a prayer during a moment of silence. However, during a moment of evil and tragedy, what’s more meaningful and driving? A collective “moment of silence” or a collective prayer?

  144. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    #149;

    then he should have mass forced marriages and I think he should start the first marital ceremony with, of course…
    …Bob42 and Ann Coulter.

    It’ll never work. Bob wouldn’t last two minutes in Ann Coulter’s company.

  145. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I mean, what’s new, after so many hours of coverage? Are they going to examine bowel movements of the deceased?

    Tedtam;
    If I were there my bowel movements would be found on the sidewalk.

  146. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #151 Darren
    That’s the point, D-boy.
    The black widow syndrome, don’t you know.

  147. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Lt Gov Dewlap getting all Rick Perry on TV about how tough he’ll be on border issues.
    🙄

  148. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    D-boy

    I kinda like that. My baseball coach used to call me “D”.

  149. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #70 Sarge

    Hit the link that goes back to yesterday’s posts.
    Scroooooolllllllll down until you get to the two posts that both I and Texpat made showing the initial mentions of Bane/Bain in the press as proof that Limbaugh was commenting on them.

    Booby21 doesn’t care about facts.
    It’s all about fluffery and puffery for unicorn puppies like him.

  150. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Du-hurts ads are appalling. The blatant half truths and flat out lies in his ads make me wonder why he doesn’t have a D after his name instead of R(ino). I am looking forward to Monday, which I believe is the first day of early voting, so I can vote against that vile VSR Du-Hurts.

  151. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Booby21 doesn’t care about facts.

    His tactics are very Alynski-esque.

  152. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    While i’ve no desire to politicize the Aurora shooting, …………..

    Aw, what the heck Darren, go ahead, here I’ll help you.

    In response to the mass shooting in Aurora, Colo., that left 12 dead and dozens wounded, Texas Rep. Louie Gohmert told the Istook Live show Friday that he believed that the country’s move away from its “Judeo-Christian beliefs” was responsible for God withdrawing his “protective hand” from the country.

    I guess it demonstrates the audience you want to pander to reach
    One guy’s President and the other’s a wannabe.

    However, during a moment of evil and tragedy, what’s more meaningful and driving? A collective “moment of silence” or a collective prayer?

    However as this sinks in across the country, feel free to decry each event’s moment of silence as not being meaningful enough.

  153. phil Avatar
    phil

    Lt Gov Dewlap getting all Rick Perry on TV about how tough he’ll be on border issues.

    He’s just means he’ll secure the border around his living quarters.

  154. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Shamaal;

    However as this sinks in across the country, feel free to decry each event’s moment of silence as not being meaningful enough.

    Go ahead, atand somewhere silently and “think’ or “reflect”. Then say a prayer to God sharing Him your thanks and grief. I’d like to know which is more meaningful to you and which is more driving for you.

  155. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    With regards to the Foundation trilogy mentioned in the lede. Please read the remaining books in the trilogy, it is well worth the read. Recall that Asimov was only 22 years old when Foundation was first written.
    This book along with Heinlein’s Have Space Suit Will Travel, is what put me on the path to where I am. Weekly I would go to the corner bookstore and tobacco shop, purchase my pack of Gauloises and inquire if the publisher, Avon Books, had released the latest Foundation book yet.
    I can’t say much more without giving away the plot, but I learned much.

  156. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    This book along with Heinlein’s Have Space Suit Will Travel, is what put me on the path to where I am.

    duh. That has been obvious for a while. Somewhere out there.

  157. phil Avatar
    phil

    is what put me on the path to where I am

    Wow, what a setup.
    And after yesterday’s OC jab I should but I’ll refrain.

  158. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Jab away, I work with some really cool space toys with some really smart people. 🙂

  159. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    One more reason to stay away from Antarctica.

    BEHOLD: the jaws of Eulagisca. This photo is taken from the top of the jar looking down. Yes, that entire purple structure is a GIANT SET OF JAWS sticking out of the front of the GIANT WORM.

  160. timdenchanter Avatar
    timdenchanter

    I was really trying to stay up to take a stab at posting both the 100th and 200th comment today but my eyes won’t allow it. Gotta beat the sunrise in the morning and get out to the range before the wind picks up. Goodnight all.

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