The US finished 2011 with a stated debt of 100.3% of GDP, or $15.22T. This does not include any unfunded liabilities like Medicare, Social Security, misc. retirement funds, etc.
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Wow, lst two days in a row!! I’m fine Katfish. I’ll be better after Jan 20th, 2013.
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Wow, lst two days in a row!! I’m fine Katfish. I’ll be better after Jan 20th, 2013.
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…And I looked, and behold a pale horse:
and his name that sat on him was Debt,
and Hell followed with him….A slightly modified verse…
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…And I looked, and behold a pale horse:
and his name that sat on him was Debt,
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Texans player Shaun Cody interviews the boss, Bob McNair. Mr McNair is pretty ripped, who knew? 😀
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Texans player Shaun Cody interviews the boss, Bob McNair. Mr McNair is pretty ripped, who knew? 😀
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C’mon guys.
Obama’s not Satan.
Here’s proof.
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Apparently, Kieth Olberman is a terd nozzle.
Some are now speculating that CNN, itself so desperate to revive its tepid ratings, will make lovey eyes to Olbermann. Such a deal would surely result in Olbermann’s following doubling from around four viewers to the lofty heights of eight – though inevitably he would soon after be fired from CNN as well.
Perhaps a stint on ABC’s The View? Word is Keith is still menstruating, which would give him a potential advantage over The View’s original matriarch, Barbara Walters.
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Apparently, Kieth Olberman is a terd nozzle.
Who knew?Some are now speculating that CNN, itself so desperate to revive its tepid ratings, will make lovey eyes to Olbermann. Such a deal would surely result in Olbermann’s following doubling from around four viewers to the lofty heights of eight – though inevitably he would soon after be fired from CNN as well.
Perhaps a stint on ABC’s The View? Word is Keith is still menstruating, which would give him a potential advantage over The View’s original matriarch, Barbara Walters. -
#5 Sarge
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#5 Sarge
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#5 Sarge: What a well worded series of severe B-Slaps on the faces of the greatly deserving.
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#5 Sarge: What a well worded series of severe B-Slaps on the faces of the greatly deserving.
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Sarah Palin says John McCain’s endorsement is important because he has experience going up against the Obama machine.
Yeah, well the Washington Generals have experience going up against the Globetrotters.
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Sarah Palin says John McCain’s endorsement is important because he has experience going up against the Obama machine.
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The guy who lost to Obama endorsing the guy who lost to him. Round & round we go.
Pat, I’d like to buy a clue…
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The guy who lost to Obama endorsing the guy who lost to him. Round & round we go.
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This could get real interesting. . . . .
HEADLINE: Israel, US to hold largest ever missile defense exercise this spring; thousands of US soldiers will be deployed in Israel.
That has the possibility of changing the dynamics in the region; if the US stations troops in Israel and they are a target of a roadside bomb, IED, homicide bomber, etc; it is an act of war against the US. Big Question: what will JugEars do at that point? He said during the campaign that he would stand with the moooslimes, will he, instead, choose the re-election route and stand with Israel and fight against his moooslime bretheren? Will he stand with Israel only long enough to get re-elected and then stab them in the back? Will Soros and Co, conjur up a scheme to make that happen? That would fit the mold of “sacrificing/martyring” a few of the good (mooslimes) so that the greater evil (Israel and USA) can be ultimately defeated? I believe that the current admin and the power behind it is that demented to attempt such a thing.
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This could get real interesting. . . . .
HEADLINE: Israel, US to hold largest ever missile defense exercise this spring; thousands of US soldiers will be deployed in Israel.
That has the possibility of changing the dynamics in the region; if the US stations troops in Israel and they are a target of a roadside bomb, IED, homicide bomber, etc; it is an act of war against the US. Big Question: what will JugEars do at that point? He said during the campaign that he would stand with the moooslimes, will he, instead, choose the re-election route and stand with Israel and fight against his moooslime bretheren? Will he stand with Israel only long enough to get re-elected and then stab them in the back? Will Soros and Co, conjur up a scheme to make that happen? That would fit the mold of “sacrificing/martyring” a few of the good (mooslimes) so that the greater evil (Israel and USA) can be ultimately defeated? I believe that the current admin and the power behind it is that demented to attempt such a thing.
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what will JugEars do at that point?
Apologize to the terrorists for getting in the way of their shrapnel.
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what will JugEars do at that point?
Apologize to the terrorists for getting in the way of their shrapnel.
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#11 Pyro:
Apologize to the terrorists for getting in the way of their shrapnel.
As much as it would make the world a better place for JugEars and Co to get in the way of shrapnel, unfortunately, it would be America’s bravest and finest instead.
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#11 Pyro:
Apologize to the terrorists for getting in the way of their shrapnel.
As much as it would make the world a better place for JugEars and Co to get in the way of shrapnel, unfortunately, it would be America’s bravest and finest instead.
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#8 GJT, Whee, what a deft dig at McCain. Go Sarah.
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#8 GJT, Whee, what a deft dig at McCain. Go Sarah.
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I don’t know if I would be too proud to have a “loser” like McCain endorse me. Look, all Romney showed in Iowa was that the same people who liked him in 2008 still like him for 2012. If there weren’t so many conservatives (some real, some so-called) running, Romney and Paul’s numbers combined wouldn’t have beaten a conservative. Hopefully, once the herd thins out, the conservatives can amass behind one candidate. My choice is Newt because he is articulate and knows how to deal with the Washington insider game to get things done.
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I don’t know if I would be too proud to have a “loser” like McCain endorse me. Look, all Romney showed in Iowa was that the same people who liked him in 2008 still like him for 2012. If there weren’t so many conservatives (some real, some so-called) running, Romney and Paul’s numbers combined wouldn’t have beaten a conservative. Hopefully, once the herd thins out, the conservatives can amass behind one candidate. My choice is Newt because he is articulate and knows how to deal with the Washington insider game to get things done.
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I think Stossel nails it. Again.
“Our living standards have shot up in my lifetime. The average income of the average person, corrected for inflation, is three times what it was when I was born (in 1958). And life span is 30 percent longer.”
This didn’t happen because of central planning. It’s the spontaneous market generated from free individuals that sets and keeps it in motion.
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“If you look at human history … lots of people in a room who are talking to each other, however stupid they are, can achieve a lot more than a lot of clever people in the room who never talk to each other. So it’s not individual intelligence that counts in how well a society works. It’s how well people communicate and exchange ideas with each other.”
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“… “When I was a student in the 1970s, the grown-ups told me that the future of the world was bleak, that the oil was running out, that the population explosion was unstoppable, that famine was inevitable. I feel kind of cross that nobody said anything optimistic to me about how these resources might not run out. They might become more abundant because of human ingenuity. They might actually get cheaper rather than more expensive and that it might be possible for us to live higher living standards and actually do less damage to the environment as we do so, that the air might get cleaner, the rivers might get cleaner!
“All of these things have happened. We’ve got healthier, happier, cleaner, kinder, cleverer, more peaceful and, indeed, more equal, if you look at the picture globally over that time.”
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“If you look at where the solutions come from, they come from optimistic people living in rich places, like Steve Jobs, or Archimedes in ancient Greece, or Leonardo in Renaissance Italy. …
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#15 TT:
“… “When I was a student in the 1970s, the grown-ups told me that the future of the world was bleak, that the oil was running out
My boss looked at a similar statement ‘the world is running out of oil’ and his response was, “at what price?” He then went on to state the obvious, “we ran out of $20/bbl oil a long time ago, however, there is a plethora of $100/bbl oil available right now.” He then explained that “ore” is that product which can be economically refined/smelted into the material desired at economical/marketable prices. What used to be considered “trash” and uneconomic is now considered “ore” in the copper industry. My boss is a real smart man.
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#15 TT:
“… “When I was a student in the 1970s, the grown-ups told me that the future of the world was bleak, that the oil was running out
My boss looked at a similar statement ‘the world is running out of oil’ and his response was, “at what price?” He then went on to state the obvious, “we ran out of $20/bbl oil a long time ago, however, there is a plethora of $100/bbl oil available right now.” He then explained that “ore” is that product which can be economically refined/smelted into the material desired at economical/marketable prices. What used to be considered “trash” and uneconomic is now considered “ore” in the copper industry. My boss is a real smart man.
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#10 – Maybe as CIC he is just intending to transfer them to Israel and take them off the US roles. No ongoing direct expense, no long term financial commitments to contend with, no health care issues, etc., plus it further reduces our ability to defend ourselves and maintain proper military standards. A win-win as far as he is concerned.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/04/us-usa-military-obama-idUSTRE8031Z020120104
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#10 – Maybe as CIC he is just intending to transfer them to Israel and take them off the US roles. No ongoing direct expense, no long term financial commitments to contend with, no health care issues, etc., plus it further reduces our ability to defend ourselves and maintain proper military standards. A win-win as far as he is concerned.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/04/us-usa-military-obama-idUSTRE8031Z020120104 -
Obama fits the definition of insanity.
Just days before Christmas, the Obama administration gave Bank of America a big lump of coal, levying a hefty $335 million dollar fine on the company for discriminating against minorities in its lending practices.
Supposedly Countrywide, a mortgage company bought by Bank of America in 2008, had not given out enough low interest rate loans to minorities from 2004 to 2008.
The near-meltdown of the financial system was the proximate cause of the recent/current recession. This was caused by the bursting of the housing bubble that was caused by too many bad home loans being written. The ultimate cause was that the Federal government implemented laws and regulations that forced the banks to do so.
The #335 million fine being levied on BofA is prima facie evidence that the heavy hand of the Federal government was indeed the cause of poor loan-writing policies -and- that the government is continuing those same policies while hoping for a different end-result.
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Obama fits the definition of insanity.
Just days before Christmas, the Obama administration gave Bank of America a big lump of coal, levying a hefty $335 million dollar fine on the company for discriminating against minorities in its lending practices.
Supposedly Countrywide, a mortgage company bought by Bank of America in 2008, had not given out enough low interest rate loans to minorities from 2004 to 2008.The near-meltdown of the financial system was the proximate cause of the recent/current recession. This was caused by the bursting of the housing bubble that was caused by too many bad home loans being written. The ultimate cause was that the Federal government implemented laws and regulations that forced the banks to do so.
The #335 million fine being levied on BofA is prima facie evidence that the heavy hand of the Federal government was indeed the cause of poor loan-writing policies -and- that the government is continuing those same policies while hoping for a different end-result. -
#19 Pyro: I hope that BofA appeals this fine and fights them in court. If the CountryWide arm of BofA can show documentation that those who met certain financial requirements were indeed given loans regardless of race, creed, sexual orientation, etc, and that those who could not were denied, then they should win. If there is a pattern of those “on the bubble” who were non protected receiving loans and those of the protected classes not receiving loans, then there could be a problem.
I agree that the heavy hand of the moon-bat-schizzle-crazy lib-tard jerk-weasels like Muddy Waters, SJL, EBJ, Bawney Fwank, etc, pressuring the banks to make loans to those in the protected class who otherwise would not qualify created a new need for the banks to sell off those (then potentially/likely) toxic assets via mortgage backed securities. That aspect of the melt-down is widely advertised, the other aspect, the credit default swaps, is at least 10 times bigger and is seldom discussed. As we have discussed here before, the CDS were an insurance-type product, but the traders in said product bribed/persuaded those in charge (see above) not to place the same fiscally prudent burdens on them that legitimate insurance products carry. The CDS scheme remained totally unregulated, the bubble expanded as many were making big bucks and then the bubble popped and there was not enough to cover the losses, and default/bankruptcy quickly followed. -
#19 Pyro: I hope that BofA appeals this fine and fights them in court. If the CountryWide arm of BofA can show documentation that those who met certain financial requirements were indeed given loans regardless of race, creed, sexual orientation, etc, and that those who could not were denied, then they should win. If there is a pattern of those “on the bubble” who were non protected receiving loans and those of the protected classes not receiving loans, then there could be a problem.
I agree that the heavy hand of the moon-bat-schizzle-crazy lib-tard jerk-weasels like Muddy Waters, SJL, EBJ, Bawney Fwank, etc, pressuring the banks to make loans to those in the protected class who otherwise would not qualify created a new need for the banks to sell off those (then potentially/likely) toxic assets via mortgage backed securities. That aspect of the melt-down is widely advertised, the other aspect, the credit default swaps, is at least 10 times bigger and is seldom discussed. As we have discussed here before, the CDS were an insurance-type product, but the traders in said product bribed/persuaded those in charge (see above) not to place the same fiscally prudent burdens on them that legitimate insurance products carry. The CDS scheme remained totally unregulated, the bubble expanded as many were making big bucks and then the bubble popped and there was not enough to cover the losses, and default/bankruptcy quickly followed. -
Government Motors is “calling back” (not to be confused with a “recall”) 8000 Chevy volts. I guess that should not be too terribly much trouble since the govt has bought most of them.
GM will ask Volt owners to return the cars to dealers for structural modifications, said the person, who did not want to be identified because GM executives plan to announce the repairs later Thursday.
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GM’s move is considered a step below a recall, which would be issued by a car company and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
NHTSA and GM have said the electric cars are safe and that no fires have occurred after crashes on real-world roadways.How much money has the US taxpayer “invested” in this volt project that no thinking person really wants? What is the total cost per unit sold to date? Let the answers to those questions guide us to the logical answer to the foundational question: Should the government be involved in private industry as a competitor?
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Government Motors is “calling back” (not to be confused with a “recall”) 8000 Chevy volts. I guess that should not be too terribly much trouble since the govt has bought most of them.
GM will ask Volt owners to return the cars to dealers for structural modifications, said the person, who did not want to be identified because GM executives plan to announce the repairs later Thursday.
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GM’s move is considered a step below a recall, which would be issued by a car company and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
NHTSA and GM have said the electric cars are safe and that no fires have occurred after crashes on real-world roadways.How much money has the US taxpayer “invested” in this volt project that no thinking person really wants? What is the total cost per unit sold to date? Let the answers to those questions guide us to the logical answer to the foundational question: Should the government be involved in private industry as a competitor?
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#21 Texakanukian: From your linkie:
A local school district will implement a new program where grade school students will be forced to wear bracelets at school and at home so the district can monitor the child’s activity.
Where are the ACLU and other privacy advocates on this issue?? As a parent, ifn my kid was forced to engage in this activity, the bracelet would be cut off, inspected with a sledge hammer and the pieces sent back with a strong note.
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#21 Texakanukian: From your linkie:
A local school district will implement a new program where grade school students will be forced to wear bracelets at school and at home so the district can monitor the child’s activity.
Where are the ACLU and other privacy advocates on this issue?? As a parent, ifn my kid was forced to engage in this activity, the bracelet would be cut off, inspected with a sledge hammer and the pieces sent back with a strong note.
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further to #23 above, I thought that the school districts “were strapped for cash”; where in the wiss did the money for this privacy invasion come from? What legitimate programs were sacrificed for this to take place?
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further to #23 above, I thought that the school districts “were strapped for cash”; where in the wiss did the money for this privacy invasion come from? What legitimate programs were sacrificed for this to take place?
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David Limbaugh has a nice article on biases and more specifically liberal biases and their abject refusal to recognize them.
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David Limbaugh has a nice article on biases and more specifically liberal biases and their abject refusal to recognize them.
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One more camel’s nose under the tent.
“When an opponent declares,
‘I will not come over to your side.’
I calmly say, ‘Your child belongs to us already…
What are you? You will pass on.
Your descendants, however,
now stand in the new camp.
In a short time they will know nothing
else but this new community.’”Adolph Hitler
But mommy it’s for my own good. The teacher told me so.
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One more camel’s nose under the tent.
“When an opponent declares,
‘I will not come over to your side.’
I calmly say, ‘Your child belongs to us already…
What are you? You will pass on.
Your descendants, however,
now stand in the new camp.
In a short time they will know nothing
else but this new community.’”
Adolph HitlerBut mommy it’s for my own good. The teacher told me so.
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There were 11 earthquakes in Eastern Ohio in 2011. As one may suspect, the anti-prosperity lunatics are blaming “fracking.” They say that waste water from the frac process is being injected near fault line which lubricates them and causes the earthquake. If what they say is true, one must consider the possibility that the crust plates are still moving and that pressure is building at the boundaries/fault lines. If the pressure is being relieved with more numerous yet non-destructive earthquakes wouldn’t that be a good thing considering the alternative; the pressure (shearing forces) building up to a much greater level and releasing much more energy all at once?
What a classic example of liberal Moon-battiness error in not thinking past the first step. -
There were 11 earthquakes in Eastern Ohio in 2011. As one may suspect, the anti-prosperity lunatics are blaming “fracking.” They say that waste water from the frac process is being injected near fault line which lubricates them and causes the earthquake. If what they say is true, one must consider the possibility that the crust plates are still moving and that pressure is building at the boundaries/fault lines. If the pressure is being relieved with more numerous yet non-destructive earthquakes wouldn’t that be a good thing considering the alternative; the pressure (shearing forces) building up to a much greater level and releasing much more energy all at once?
What a classic example of liberal Moon-battiness error in not thinking past the first step. -
#15 – LOVE ole John Stossel!
That’s one news dude that needs to be cloned!
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#15 – LOVE ole John Stossel!
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#28 Katfish: Yes, he is right on. If he does have liberal leanings, he does not let it show in his reporting. I find him to be a breath of fresh air in the stagnate smoke stack of modern “journalism.”
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#28 Katfish: Yes, he is right on. If he does have liberal leanings, he does not let it show in his reporting. I find him to be a breath of fresh air in the stagnate smoke stack of modern “journalism.”
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Stossel claims to be a libertarian, I believe.
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Stossel claims to be a libertarian, I believe.
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Crazy Aunt: Be sure to tape your grammar head before reading (deciphering) this article. The grammar is less than stellar and would definitely get a big red F in Prof. JP Morgan’s English class.
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Crazy Aunt: Be sure to tape your grammar head before reading (deciphering) this article. The grammar is less than stellar and would definitely get a big red F in Prof. JP Morgan’s English class.
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#30 Pyro: I can believe that Stossel is a Libertarian. I find him to be on the conservative side of the Libertarian continuum.
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#30 Pyro: I can believe that Stossel is a Libertarian. I find him to be on the conservative side of the Libertarian continuum.
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#27: From Wikki
The oceanic crust is 5 km (3 mi) to 10 km (6 mi) thick[1] and is composed primarily of basalt, diabase, and gabbro. The continental crust is typically from 30 km (20 mi) to 50 km (30 mi) thick and is mostly composed of slightly less dense rocks than those of the oceanic crust.
To imagine that fracing a well at a depth of anywhere from 2000 to 12000 feet is going to move the continental plates is absolutely foolish. The width of a frac will vary depending on the type of formation but is rarely longer than a couple of hundred feet. Fracing (the proper spelling) is short for fracturing. This is a process where quantities of sand, gel and other chemicals are pumped into the ground at pressures up to 15000 psi. This fractures the formation around the well bore to increase permeability to allow more oil and gas to flow out. We have been fracturing in the U.S. and other parts of the world for almost 100 years. The media has just now heard of it so it is in the news as the environmentalists continue their attempts to shut down the oil industry. It is a bs tempest in a teapot about that is playing on people’s ignorance and fears. The fact that the media doesn’t even know how to spell it properly shows how ill informed they are.
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#27: From Wikki
The oceanic crust is 5 km (3 mi) to 10 km (6 mi) thick[1] and is composed primarily of basalt, diabase, and gabbro. The continental crust is typically from 30 km (20 mi) to 50 km (30 mi) thick and is mostly composed of slightly less dense rocks than those of the oceanic crust.
To imagine that fracing a well at a depth of anywhere from 2000 to 12000 feet is going to move the continental plates is absolutely foolish. The width of a frac will vary depending on the type of formation but is rarely longer than a couple of hundred feet. Fracing (the proper spelling) is short for fracturing. This is a process where quantities of sand, gel and other chemicals are pumped into the ground at pressures up to 15000 psi. This fractures the formation around the well bore to increase permeability to allow more oil and gas to flow out. We have been fracturing in the U.S. and other parts of the world for almost 100 years. The media has just now heard of it so it is in the news as the environmentalists continue their attempts to shut down the oil industry. It is a bs tempest in a teapot about that is playing on people’s ignorance and fears. The fact that the media doesn’t even know how to spell it properly shows how ill informed they are.
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I have Stossel’s book, Myths, Lies, and Downright Stupidity. He dedicates quite a bit of space in the last few pages to his claim to libertarianism.
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I have Stossel’s book, Myths, Lies, and Downright Stupidity. He dedicates quite a bit of space in the last few pages to his claim to libertarianism.
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Here is another gem, also from wiki
A Duke University study published in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences in 2011 examined methane in groundwater in Pennsylvania and New York states overlying the Marcellus Shale and the Utica Shale. It determined that groundwater tended to contain much higher concentrations of methane near fracking wells, with potential explosion hazard; the methane’s isotopic signatures and other geochemical indicators were consistent with it originating in the fracked deep shale formations, rather than any other source.[30] Complaints from a few residents on water quality in a developed natural gas field prompted an EPA groundwater investigation in Wyoming. The EPA reported detections of methane and other chemicals such as phthalates in private water wells
Guess what? Fracing takes place where there is oil and gas, I am shocked that there would be higher concentrations of methane there. If we fractured where there was no gas you wouldn’t detect any.
Yes, I get cranky about this stuff. 🙁
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Here is another gem, also from wiki
A Duke University study published in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences in 2011 examined methane in groundwater in Pennsylvania and New York states overlying the Marcellus Shale and the Utica Shale. It determined that groundwater tended to contain much higher concentrations of methane near fracking wells, with potential explosion hazard; the methane’s isotopic signatures and other geochemical indicators were consistent with it originating in the fracked deep shale formations, rather than any other source.[30] Complaints from a few residents on water quality in a developed natural gas field prompted an EPA groundwater investigation in Wyoming. The EPA reported detections of methane and other chemicals such as phthalates in private water wells
Guess what? Fracing takes place where there is oil and gas, I am shocked that there would be higher concentrations of methane there. If we fractured where there was no gas you wouldn’t detect any.
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I’m gonna get me a new t shirt today!
I would get one from Bill Still, but he doesn’t have any:
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I’m gonna get me a new t shirt today!
http://c3244172.r72.cf0.rackcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/wpsc/product_images/Long%20Sleeve%20RP%20Revolution%20Shirt.jpg
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or………if you are STUPID enough to do so – at least have sense enough to follow law enforcement’s orders
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DON’T take GUNS to SCHOOL
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Heck, go stick a pipe in the ground around Mont Belvieu.
You can light the gas coming out of it.
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Heck, go stick a pipe in the ground around Mont Belvieu.
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I ran across an interesting tidbit regarding Obama’s “recess” appointment of Mr. Cordray to the CFPB. People have been yammering that the Senate had only been in recess for less than a day when the appointment was made and that this will allow the president to make a recess appointment pretty much when he wants to.
Neither House, during the Session of Congress, shall, without the Consent of the other, adjourn for more than three days, nor to any other Place than that in which the two Houses shall be sitting. [US Constitution, Article I Section 5]
The Senate has been holding pro forma sessions every three days because it is Constitutionally obligated to because the House has not passed a resolution giving it authorization to. In other words, the Senate is in session now and has been for several months.
The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session. [US Constitution, Article II Section 2]
This and the above say that a recess is the interval between sessions. Again, the Senate has been in session for several months now, even if it is pro forma.
Hopefully this is a correct interpretation and the courts will agree and show that Obama really stepped in it this time.
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I ran across an interesting tidbit regarding Obama’s “recess” appointment of Mr. Cordray to the CFPB. People have been yammering that the Senate had only been in recess for less than a day when the appointment was made and that this will allow the president to make a recess appointment pretty much when he wants to.
Not so fast.Neither House, during the Session of Congress, shall, without the Consent of the other, adjourn for more than three days, nor to any other Place than that in which the two Houses shall be sitting. [US Constitution, Article I Section 5]
The Senate has been holding pro forma sessions every three days because it is Constitutionally obligated to because the House has not passed a resolution giving it authorization to. In other words, the Senate is in session now and has been for several months.
The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session. [US Constitution, Article II Section 2]
This and the above say that a recess is the interval between sessions. Again, the Senate has been in session for several months now, even if it is pro forma.
Hopefully this is a correct interpretation and the courts will agree and show that Obama really stepped in it this time. -
Is it me or does Obama seem to be channeling his inner New Jersey douchebag with a bit too much Coppertone QT?
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Is it me or does Obama seem to be channeling his inner New Jersey douchebag with a bit too much Coppertone QT?
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Oh, it is soooooooooo freakin’ on.
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Oh, it is soooooooooo freakin’ on.
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#40 Sarge
Oh, it is soooooooooo freakin’ on.
I guess that explains this leaked email from Mitt to Newt:
3:00 am
Switchblades and chains
The empty warehouse on W 40th Street.
You know where it is.
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#40 Sarge
Oh, it is soooooooooo freakin’ on.
I guess that explains this leaked email from Mitt to Newt:
3:00 am
Switchblades and chains
The empty warehouse on W 40th Street.
You know where it is.
Come alone.
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Sounds like a really geeky version of West Side Story.
Who’s the Shark & who’s the Jet?
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Sounds like a really geeky version of West Side Story.
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Don’t matter.
Niether of them is walking out.
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re: #36
IT’S ALIVE!!!
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So, whaddya think of a Santorum/Gingrich ticket?
Rick Santorum might not win New Hampshire, but with the help of Newt Gingrich, maybe he can watch Mitt Romney lose. Santorum doesn’t have the money Romney has (less than $1 million to $14 million raised in the third quarter), or the poll numbers (averaging 4.3 percent to Romney’s 41 percent), or the establishment support, but he has an angry Gingrich who’ll do his dirty work for him. New York’s Jonathan Chait points out that Gingrich has already said he’s ready to take on this role. “We’re going to be defining Romney out of the mainstream of the Republican party,” Gingrich said Tuesday. Chait writes, “The interesting part is that by ‘we’ he apparently meant himself and Santorum. That, I suppose, could be the answer to the anti-Romney coordination problem – Gingrich as the bad cop to Santorum’s good cop, with Gingrich staying in the race to pound away at his tormentor while Santorum tries to mop up the right-wing votes.”
Jimmy Dick isn’t even trying in NH—he’s going straight to SC. Newtsy still has the lead in polls there, but if his voters know he’s Santorum’s Luca Brasi now, Goodhair’s fighting a losing battle.
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So, whaddya think of a Santorum/Gingrich ticket?
Rick Santorum might not win New Hampshire, but with the help of Newt Gingrich, maybe he can watch Mitt Romney lose. Santorum doesn’t have the money Romney has (less than $1 million to $14 million raised in the third quarter), or the poll numbers (averaging 4.3 percent to Romney’s 41 percent), or the establishment support, but he has an angry Gingrich who’ll do his dirty work for him. New York’s Jonathan Chait points out that Gingrich has already said he’s ready to take on this role. “We’re going to be defining Romney out of the mainstream of the Republican party,” Gingrich said Tuesday. Chait writes, “The interesting part is that by ‘we’ he apparently meant himself and Santorum. That, I suppose, could be the answer to the anti-Romney coordination problem – Gingrich as the bad cop to Santorum’s good cop, with Gingrich staying in the race to pound away at his tormentor while Santorum tries to mop up the right-wing votes.”
Jimmy Dick isn’t even trying in NH—he’s going straight to SC. Newtsy still has the lead in polls there, but if his voters know he’s Santorum’s Luca Brasi now, Goodhair’s fighting a losing battle.
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#46 Contrast Joe “The Dip$h!t” Biden to Newt Gingrich as VP, particularly in a VP debate. . . . .Newt would beat the crap out of him to such a degree that they would have to mail Biden’s clothes home. Ifn JugEars swaps Hitlery for Biden, she will still be outmatched by the Newtster. Newt would absolutely destroy her in a debate and he is plenty mean enough to take and hit back at what ever she can throw at him. The Noootski was not expecting The Romneyrroid to level the negative attacks at him either directly or clandestinely as it happened in Iowa; he will not make that mistake with Hitlery or Biden.
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#46 Contrast Joe “The Dip$h!t” Biden to Newt Gingrich as VP, particularly in a VP debate. . . . .Newt would beat the crap out of him to such a degree that they would have to mail Biden’s clothes home. Ifn JugEars swaps Hitlery for Biden, she will still be outmatched by the Newtster. Newt would absolutely destroy her in a debate and he is plenty mean enough to take and hit back at what ever she can throw at him. The Noootski was not expecting The Romneyrroid to level the negative attacks at him either directly or clandestinely as it happened in Iowa; he will not make that mistake with Hitlery or Biden.
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#40 PyroMan
There is something out of order in that image. It looks like it was taken with a 1960s Kodak or expired film roll or something. But your suggestion of too much Coppertone on the subject has merit too. -
#40 PyroMan
There is something out of order in that image. It looks like it was taken with a 1960s Kodak or expired film roll or something. But your suggestion of too much Coppertone on the subject has merit too. -
Have any of you considered that picture shows Obama really is an illegal alien…..and not the kind that came across any river either.
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Have any of you considered that picture shows Obama really is an illegal alien…..and not the kind that came across any river either.
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Mark Levin throws down the constitutional crisis gauntlet. I don not htink that he is overstating the position. JugEars has gone way too far this time, now it is up to the Rs to demonstrate that they have a spine and go after him full blast. With this move, JugEars has practically guaranteed that nothing else will get done this year.
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Mark Levin throws down the constitutional crisis gauntlet. I don not htink that he is overstating the position. JugEars has gone way too far this time, now it is up to the Rs to demonstrate that they have a spine and go after him full blast. With this move, JugEars has practically guaranteed that nothing else will get done this year.
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JugEars war on America has taken a new front and in classic Carteresque fashion, he wants to drastically cut the military.
After the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan that defined the first decade of the 20th century, Mr Obama’s blueprint for the military’s future acknowledged that America will no longer have the resources to conduct two such major operations simultaneously.
Instead, the US military will lose up to half a million troops and will focus on countering terrorism and meeting the new challenges of an emergent Asia dominated by China.Lemme see, didn’t Jimmah Cawtah do the same wissin thing? Hasn’t that been the D budget saving move from the beginning? Make us militarily much weaker, yeah, that will guarantee that no one will mess with us or our interests and allies.
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JugEars war on America has taken a new front and in classic Carteresque fashion, he wants to drastically cut the military.
After the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan that defined the first decade of the 20th century, Mr Obama’s blueprint for the military’s future acknowledged that America will no longer have the resources to conduct two such major operations simultaneously.
Instead, the US military will lose up to half a million troops and will focus on countering terrorism and meeting the new challenges of an emergent Asia dominated by China.Lemme see, didn’t Jimmah Cawtah do the same wissin thing? Hasn’t that been the D budget saving move from the beginning? Make us militarily much weaker, yeah, that will guarantee that no one will mess with us or our interests and allies.
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A very Merry Christmas today to the second largest Christian denomination in the world. Particularly my onion domed friends in the Orthodox Christian Church of Russia. Special consideration to the Christian Churches in the mideast under siege by the dark forces.
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A very Merry Christmas today to the second largest Christian denomination in the world. Particularly my onion domed friends in the Orthodox Christian Church of Russia. Special consideration to the Christian Churches in the mideast under siege by the dark forces.
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“These are not the burgers you’ve been looking for.”
I find your lack of ketchup disturbing…
There is no try. Only eat.Use the fork, Luke.
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“These are not the burgers you’ve been looking for.”
I find your lack of ketchup disturbing…
There is no try. Only eat.
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Maybe he’s hungry …………
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Maybe he’s hungry …………
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#40 Conestoga Pyro
The touchup makes him look like an Oompa-Loompa
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#40 Conestoga Pyro
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This is self evident that having lots of money does not mean you are smart. $30 MILLION WISSIN DOLLARS FOR THAT??!!?
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This is self evident that having lots of money does not mean you are smart. $30 MILLION WISSIN DOLLARS FOR THAT??!!?
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This is not the hope you are looking for
Yeah,. Like I needed a Jedi mind trick pulled on my to figure that one out. 🙂
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This is not the hope you are looking for
Yeah,. Like I needed a Jedi mind trick pulled on my to figure that one out. 🙂
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#30;
Stossel claims to be a libertarian, I believe.
Yup, liberal leanings.
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#30;
Stossel claims to be a libertarian, I believe.
Yup, liberal leanings.
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I’m glad this looser’s gone to Mexico. May he stay there outside of my country.
Imagine what would happen if a man in a bar told a group of Navy SEALs that he:
•Disagrees with the war.
•Believes they (the military) are murderers, killing innocent people… men, women and children
•Thought they probably deserve to lose a few of their own.That imaginary person would be Jesse Ventura, fomer governor and former SEAL (pre-SEAL special ops). After speaking to some graduating SEAL personel, Ventura went to a bar where a group of SEALs were mourning the loss of one of ther own with the family of the lost Medal-of-Honor SEAL. Ventura spoke out loud saying he disagreed with the war (I think it was in reference to Iraq). Chris Kyle approached Ventura and told him to keep it down since family of a fallen SEAL was present and that’s when Ventura said he thought that the SEALs should loose more of their own. At that point Chris Kyle knocked down Ventura with one punch.
Why Did the ‘Deadliest’ SEAL Sniper Punch Jesse Ventura in The Face?
The link also includes audio with some potty words (f-bomb about 3 times and sh** a couple of times) so be ye warned.
As per the title of the link, Chris Kyle is also considered to be the SEAL’s most dangerous sniper.
The son of a Sunday-school teacher and a church deacon, Kyle credits a higher authority for his longest kill.
From 2,100 yards away from a village just outside of Sadr City in 2008, he spied a man aiming a rocket launcher at an Army convoy and squeezed off one shot from his .338 Lapua Magnum rifle.
Dead. From more than a mile away.
“God blew that bullet and hit him,” he said.
I’ve no doubt.
And he’s right. In fact, he has two Silver Stars and five Bronze Stars with valor to prove it. That explains why in Ramadi, insurgents put an $80,000 bounty on his head and dubbed him “Al-Shaitan Ramadi” — “The Devil of Ramadi.”
Sounds like top honors to me.
Anyway, good riddance to Jesse “the dud” Ventura. Stay in Mexico and out of my country you low life twerp.
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I’m glad this looser’s gone to Mexico. May he stay there outside of my country.
Imagine what would happen if a man in a bar told a group of Navy SEALs that he:
•Disagrees with the war.
•Believes they (the military) are murderers, killing innocent people… men, women and children
•Thought they probably deserve to lose a few of their own.That imaginary person would be Jesse Ventura, fomer governor and former SEAL (pre-SEAL special ops). After speaking to some graduating SEAL personel, Ventura went to a bar where a group of SEALs were mourning the loss of one of ther own with the family of the lost Medal-of-Honor SEAL. Ventura spoke out loud saying he disagreed with the war (I think it was in reference to Iraq). Chris Kyle approached Ventura and told him to keep it down since family of a fallen SEAL was present and that’s when Ventura said he thought that the SEALs should loose more of their own. At that point Chris Kyle knocked down Ventura with one punch.
Why Did the ‘Deadliest’ SEAL Sniper Punch Jesse Ventura in The Face?
The link also includes audio with some potty words (f-bomb about 3 times and sh** a couple of times) so be ye warned.
As per the title of the link, Chris Kyle is also considered to be the SEAL’s most dangerous sniper.The son of a Sunday-school teacher and a church deacon, Kyle credits a higher authority for his longest kill.
From 2,100 yards away from a village just outside of Sadr City in 2008, he spied a man aiming a rocket launcher at an Army convoy and squeezed off one shot from his .338 Lapua Magnum rifle.
Dead. From more than a mile away.
“God blew that bullet and hit him,” he said.I’ve no doubt.
And he’s right. In fact, he has two Silver Stars and five Bronze Stars with valor to prove it. That explains why in Ramadi, insurgents put an $80,000 bounty on his head and dubbed him “Al-Shaitan Ramadi” — “The Devil of Ramadi.”
Sounds like top honors to me.
Anyway, good riddance to Jesse “the dud” Ventura. Stay in Mexico and out of my country you low life twerp. -
45 Hamous
Amazing!
Looks like he’s gone over to The Lunatic Ron Paul dark side.
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45 Hamous
Amazing!
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Some people change their gravitar as often as they do their underwear.
/reminds self to change gravitar
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#60
Some people change their gravitar as often as they do their underwear.
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Who dat Smacktle? New kid on the Couch?
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Who dat Smacktle? New kid on the Couch?
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#60 Shannon
Amazing!
Looks like he’s gone over to The Lunatic Ron Paul dark side.
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#60 Shannon
Amazing!
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#62 Smacktle is an old buddy from the LST days.
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#62 Smacktle is an old buddy from the LST days.
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#36;
Hi ya, Smackle.
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Swamp People season 2 is now available on Netflix streaming.
Sweet!!!
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Swamp People season 2 is now available on Netflix streaming.
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From Pajamas Media:
Attempting to justify the president’s violation of the Constitution and 90 years of legal precedent, presidential spokesman Dan Pfeiffer claimed that the president can exercise recess appointment powers because the Senate’s pro forma sessions—conducted since mid-December—are merely “a gimmick” during which “no Senate business is conducted and instead one of two Senators simply gavel in and out of session in a matter of seconds.”
However, a simple review of the Congressional Record (“CR”) shows that claim to be categorically false.
Most senators left D.C. on Dec. 17 after scheduling pro forma sessions for December and January. The CR for Dec. 17 shows that Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) received unanimous consent to schedule Dec. 23 as a pro forma session.
The CR for Dec. 23 shows that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid specifically asked for unanimous consent for H.R. 3765 so “that if the House passes and sends to the Senate a bill which is identical to the text extension of the reduced payroll tax, unemployment insurance, TANF, and the Medicare payment fix, the bill be considered read three times and passed.”
In that pro forma session, Reid received unanimous consent and the two-month extension of the payroll tax break that had caused such a political commotion in Washington was considered read and passed in the Senate after the House acted. That’s not a “gimmick.” That’s legislating.
The White House Is Wrong — The Senate Conducted Business During Its ‘Recess’
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From Pajamas Media:
Attempting to justify the president’s violation of the Constitution and 90 years of legal precedent, presidential spokesman Dan Pfeiffer claimed that the president can exercise recess appointment powers because the Senate’s pro forma sessions—conducted since mid-December—are merely “a gimmick” during which “no Senate business is conducted and instead one of two Senators simply gavel in and out of session in a matter of seconds.”
However, a simple review of the Congressional Record (“CR”) shows that claim to be categorically false.
Most senators left D.C. on Dec. 17 after scheduling pro forma sessions for December and January. The CR for Dec. 17 shows that Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) received unanimous consent to schedule Dec. 23 as a pro forma session.
The CR for Dec. 23 shows that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid specifically asked for unanimous consent for H.R. 3765 so “that if the House passes and sends to the Senate a bill which is identical to the text extension of the reduced payroll tax, unemployment insurance, TANF, and the Medicare payment fix, the bill be considered read three times and passed.”
In that pro forma session, Reid received unanimous consent and the two-month extension of the payroll tax break that had caused such a political commotion in Washington was considered read and passed in the Senate after the House acted. That’s not a “gimmick.” That’s legislating.The White House Is Wrong — The Senate Conducted Business During Its ‘Recess’
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