Wednesday Where’s The Wagonburner Open Comments

See if you can guess where the wagonburner is. This is one of the primary crops grown in the area. You probably have some in your house right now.

Here’s a closer look:

This is the view out my palatial hotel window:

The weather’s cool and rainy.


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  1. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Pole!

    Alls I know is it’s in America and if it’s cool, there’s Yankees involved.

  2. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Pole!
    Alls I know is it’s in America and if it’s cool, there’s Yankees involved.

  3. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Wyoming, N/S Dak, Safflowers?
    Mornin’ Gang

  4. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Wyoming, N/S Dak, Safflowers?
    Mornin’ Gang

  5. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Looks like mustard. I’m guessing somewhere in Canada. Probably Alberta.

  6. Hamous Avatar

    Looks like mustard. I’m guessing somewhere in Canada. Probably Alberta.

  7. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    I also thought mustard first thing. Just because the flowers are yellow. Then I thought France because I know they grow mustard there. The photo does not look like France.

  8. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    I also thought mustard first thing. Just because the flowers are yellow. Then I thought France because I know they grow mustard there. The photo does not look like France.

  9. Hamous Avatar

    The Peoples Republic of Seattle, Washington.

  10. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    The Peoples Republic of Seattle, Washington.

  11. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    G’Morning all

    I don’t know where you are, but you’re overlooking a Ford dealer next door to a Shell station, the license plates are white , the advert. banners are in English and there’s a Frito Lay truck in the parking lot. Since the dealer is small, I would guess a small town near near Seattle Wash.

  12. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    G’Morning all
    I don’t know where you are, but you’re overlooking a Ford dealer next door to a Shell station, the license plates are white , the advert. banners are in English and there’s a Frito Lay truck in the parking lot. Since the dealer is small, I would guess a small town near near Seattle Wash.

  13. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    It looks like McConnell is caving:

    McConnell: Give Obama New Powers on Debt Limit
    Tuesday, 12 Jul 2011 04:05 PM

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The top Republican in the Senate proposed on Tuesday giving President Barack Obama sweeping new power to, in effect, unilaterally increase the nation’s debt limit to avoid a first-ever default on U.S. obligations.

    Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., offered a new plan to allow the president to demand up to $2.4 trillion in new borrowing authority by the summer of next year in three separate submissions. Those increases in the so-called debt limit would automatically take effect unless both the Republican House and the Democratic Senate enact legislation specifically disapproving it.

    Obama would be able to veto such legislation.

    http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/DebtShowdown/2011/07/12/id/403368

    If his juevoes are that useless, then perhaps Cathy needs to visit him

    JULY 12–In the year’s most horrifying police press release, cops in Garden Grove, California describe how a woman last night allegedly cut off her husband’s penis.

    According to investigators, Catherine Kieu Becker, 48, “used an unknown type poison and/or drug in the male’s food to make him sleepy. She tied him to the bed and as he woke the female cut off his penis” with a 10-inch kitchen knife. Becker, pictured in the mug shot at right, then allegedly “tossed the penis…in the garbage disposal and turned the disposal to the ‘on’ position.”

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/revolting/severed-penis-put-in-garbage-disposal-836290

  14. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    It looks like McConnell is caving:

    McConnell: Give Obama New Powers on Debt Limit
    Tuesday, 12 Jul 2011 04:05 PM
    WASHINGTON (AP) — The top Republican in the Senate proposed on Tuesday giving President Barack Obama sweeping new power to, in effect, unilaterally increase the nation’s debt limit to avoid a first-ever default on U.S. obligations.
    Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., offered a new plan to allow the president to demand up to $2.4 trillion in new borrowing authority by the summer of next year in three separate submissions. Those increases in the so-called debt limit would automatically take effect unless both the Republican House and the Democratic Senate enact legislation specifically disapproving it.
    Obama would be able to veto such legislation.

    http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/DebtShowdown/2011/07/12/id/403368
    If his juevoes are that useless, then perhaps Cathy needs to visit him

    JULY 12–In the year’s most horrifying police press release, cops in Garden Grove, California describe how a woman last night allegedly cut off her husband’s penis.
    According to investigators, Catherine Kieu Becker, 48, “used an unknown type poison and/or drug in the male’s food to make him sleepy. She tied him to the bed and as he woke the female cut off his penis” with a 10-inch kitchen knife. Becker, pictured in the mug shot at right, then allegedly “tossed the penis…in the garbage disposal and turned the disposal to the ‘on’ position.”

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/revolting/severed-penis-put-in-garbage-disposal-836290

  15. Hamous Avatar

    #7 Geezer: MCConnell-terd is worthless. With the statement in your first block quote, he properly defined what is wrong with the establishment R-pukes. Phrased a little differently:
    “Gee wilikers, I can’t seem to persuade BHO to even cut back a little bit, heck fire, I even said please! I am going to remove myself from the problem and just give him the authority to go over the line by only 2.4 TRILLION. I know, I will be real tough on him and make him ask for it each of the 3 times.”
    That has to be the lamest, limpest, weak-a$$ed stupid response I have seen in my adult lifetime for any subject from any “adult”.
    He is simply not worthy of the position he holds, nor that of dog catcher for that matter, and I offer him this universal sign of contempt.

  16. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #7 Geezer: MCConnell-terd is worthless. With the statement in your first block quote, he properly defined what is wrong with the establishment R-pukes. Phrased a little differently:
    “Gee wilikers, I can’t seem to persuade BHO to even cut back a little bit, heck fire, I even said please! I am going to remove myself from the problem and just give him the authority to go over the line by only 2.4 TRILLION. I know, I will be real tough on him and make him ask for it each of the 3 times.”
    That has to be the lamest, limpest, weak-a$$ed stupid response I have seen in my adult lifetime for any subject from any “adult”.
    He is simply not worthy of the position he holds, nor that of dog catcher for that matter, and I offer him this universal sign of contempt.

  17. Hamous Avatar

    The TSA Nazi’s strike again.

    A 41-year-old Clarksville woman was arrested after Nashville airport authorities say she was belligerent and verbally abusive to security officers, refusing for her daughter to be patted down at a security checkpoint.

    So just how does this work, she said no and refused to be treated as a sheeple and they arrested her. Would they arrest her if she said no politely?

    “(She) told me in a very stearn voice with quite a bit of attitude that they were not going through that X-ray,” Sabrina Birge, an airport security officer, told police.

    “No, it’s not an X-ray,” she told Abbott. “It is 10,000 times safer than your cell phone and uses the same type of radio waves as a sonogram.”

    I am pretty sure this is a bald faced lie. If they are speaking of the magnetometer, or metal detector, then that may be true, if they are speaking of the full body nude imager then the statement that it is 10000 times safer than a cell phone is a lie.

  18. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    The TSA Nazi’s strike again.

    A 41-year-old Clarksville woman was arrested after Nashville airport authorities say she was belligerent and verbally abusive to security officers, refusing for her daughter to be patted down at a security checkpoint.

    So just how does this work, she said no and refused to be treated as a sheeple and they arrested her. Would they arrest her if she said no politely?

    “(She) told me in a very stearn voice with quite a bit of attitude that they were not going through that X-ray,” Sabrina Birge, an airport security officer, told police.
    “No, it’s not an X-ray,” she told Abbott. “It is 10,000 times safer than your cell phone and uses the same type of radio waves as a sonogram.”

    I am pretty sure this is a bald faced lie. If they are speaking of the magnetometer, or metal detector, then that may be true, if they are speaking of the full body nude imager then the statement that it is 10000 times safer than a cell phone is a lie.

  19. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Ehhhhhh–

    don’t worry about all that TSA stuff.

    They’ll take care of it at the Federal level.

  20. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Ehhhhhh–
    don’t worry about all that TSA stuff.
    They’ll take care of it at the Federal level.

  21. Hamous Avatar

    GE Chairman and CEO Jeffrey Immelt is a POS.

    “The people who are part of the business sector, the people in this room, have got to stop complaining about government and get some action underway,” he told the group. “There’s no excuse today for lack of leadership. The truth is we all need to be part of the solution.”
    Immelt is the chair of President Obama’s Council on Jobs and Competitiveness.

    Didn’t the POS Immelt get a waiver from Obamacare for GE? Doesn’t GE get most of the military jet engine business? Hasn’t GE laid off close to 30000 people in the last couple of years but miraculously not gotten any negative press for it, or for his exhorbitant salary? Isn’t Immelt one of O’s biggest financial supporters outside of the unions? This really stinks of quid pro quo, or to put it in more understandable terms, bribery and corruption.

  22. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    GE Chairman and CEO Jeffrey Immelt is a POS.

    “The people who are part of the business sector, the people in this room, have got to stop complaining about government and get some action underway,” he told the group. “There’s no excuse today for lack of leadership. The truth is we all need to be part of the solution.”
    Immelt is the chair of President Obama’s Council on Jobs and Competitiveness.

    Didn’t the POS Immelt get a waiver from Obamacare for GE? Doesn’t GE get most of the military jet engine business? Hasn’t GE laid off close to 30000 people in the last couple of years but miraculously not gotten any negative press for it, or for his exhorbitant salary? Isn’t Immelt one of O’s biggest financial supporters outside of the unions? This really stinks of quid pro quo, or to put it in more understandable terms, bribery and corruption.

  23. Hamous Avatar

    TT: has your AA given birth to a new dirty diaper factory yet?

  24. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    TT: has your AA given birth to a new dirty diaper factory yet?

  25. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Shannon mentioned yesterday that the Elissa was in need of some serious hull repair, to donate go; HERE Be sure to scroll down to “Elissa Dry-dock” to make sure it gets credited to her.

  26. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Shannon mentioned yesterday that the Elissa was in need of some serious hull repair, to donate go; HERE Be sure to scroll down to “Elissa Dry-dock” to make sure it gets credited to her.

  27. Hamous Avatar

    C’MON PYRO! give up the info, isn’t that the Seattle Space Needle (big wissin phallic symbol) I see in the clouds, there? Where the wiss are you?

  28. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    C’MON PYRO! give up the info, isn’t that the Seattle Space Needle (big wissin phallic symbol) I see in the clouds, there? Where the wiss are you?

  29. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    OK my #13, let’s try that again; LINKY

  30. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    OK my #13, let’s try that again; LINKY

  31. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Canada is a world leader in condiment mustard seed marketing, accounting for 70 to 80 per cent of global exports, annually. The largest market for Canadian mustard seed is the United States, followed by Belgium, Germany, the Netherlands and Japan.

    I’m further narrowing my guess to Edmonton.

  32. Hamous Avatar

    Canada is a world leader in condiment mustard seed marketing, accounting for 70 to 80 per cent of global exports, annually. The largest market for Canadian mustard seed is the United States, followed by Belgium, Germany, the Netherlands and Japan.

    I’m further narrowing my guess to Edmonton.

  33. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Just say no to debt increase. Since our Dear Leader cannot guaranty payment of our obligations now, expect to see a serious downgrade in our credit rating and the ongoing depreciation in our currency (which of course is exactly in keeping with his plan to destroy America). Good work there Mr. President.

  34. El Gordo Avatar

    Just say no to debt increase. Since our Dear Leader cannot guaranty payment of our obligations now, expect to see a serious downgrade in our credit rating and the ongoing depreciation in our currency (which of course is exactly in keeping with his plan to destroy America). Good work there Mr. President.

  35. Hamous Avatar

    It is way past time to start cutting the stoooooopid BS in the Govt>
    Dept of Education
    Dept of Commerce
    Dept of Energy
    Dept of Interior
    close and liquidate all above departments
    Dept of Agriculture reduce by at least 70%, limit functions to seed libraries, better understanding of soil/crop rotation/fallow period, meat inspection and the like.

    Sell all vacant federal office buildings
    Kick the UN out of the US and withdraw the US from the UN
    Start selling some of the vast tracts of Federal Lands in Alaska and the western states.
    Move all budget items, not eliminated by above measures, back to FY 2007 funding levels in real dollars and institute zero baseline budgets for all agencies/budget items in the future.

    If we were to START the negotiations with the above list already in place and cut from there, we could fix the budget problem in no time. Let’s face it folks, the federal govt needs to shrink by at least 40% within the next 2 years or we are doomed.

  36. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    It is way past time to start cutting the stoooooopid BS in the Govt>
    Dept of Education
    Dept of Commerce
    Dept of Energy
    Dept of Interior
    close and liquidate all above departments
    Dept of Agriculture reduce by at least 70%, limit functions to seed libraries, better understanding of soil/crop rotation/fallow period, meat inspection and the like.
    Sell all vacant federal office buildings
    Kick the UN out of the US and withdraw the US from the UN
    Start selling some of the vast tracts of Federal Lands in Alaska and the western states.
    Move all budget items, not eliminated by above measures, back to FY 2007 funding levels in real dollars and institute zero baseline budgets for all agencies/budget items in the future.
    If we were to START the negotiations with the above list already in place and cut from there, we could fix the budget problem in no time. Let’s face it folks, the federal govt needs to shrink by at least 40% within the next 2 years or we are doomed.

  37. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    You forgot Labor

  38. Hamous Avatar

    Hammy, I know I prolly left out a bunch, but like I said, it is a start. If a genuine constitutional originalist were to go through the entire budget and start whacking away first at the most egregious non-constitutionally authorized spending, by the time he got to some marginal areas, we could prolly pay the debt in 3-5 years with the dramatic surplus that would ensue.

  39. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Hammy, I know I prolly left out a bunch, but like I said, it is a start. If a genuine constitutional originalist were to go through the entire budget and start whacking away first at the most egregious non-constitutionally authorized spending, by the time he got to some marginal areas, we could prolly pay the debt in 3-5 years with the dramatic surplus that would ensue.

  40. Hamous Avatar

    An interesting letter from my inbox today:

    The following is a copy of an article written by Spanish writer Sebastian Vilar Rodrigez and published in a Spanish newspaper on Jan. 15 2008. It doesn’t take much imagination to extrapolate the message to the rest of Europe – and possibly to the rest of the world.

    IT WAS IN A SPANISH PAPER
    Date: Tue. 15 January 2008 14:30

    EUROPEAN LIFE DIED IN AUSCHWITZ

    By Sebastian Vilar Rodrigez

    I walked down the street in Barcelona, and suddenly discovered a terrible truth – Europe died in Auschwitz … We killed six million Jews and replaced them with 20 million Muslims. In Auschwitz we burned a culture, thought, creativity, talent. We destroyed the chosen people, truly chosen, because they produced great and wonderful people who changed the world.

    The contribution of this people is felt in all areas of life: science, art, international trade, and above all, as the conscience of the world.
    These are the people we burned.

    And under the pretense of tolerance, and because we wanted to prove to ourselves that we were cured of the disease of racism, we opened our gates to 20 million Muslims, who brought us stupidity and ignorance, religious extremism and lack of tolerance, crime and poverty, due to an unwillingness to work and support their families with pride.

    They have blown up our trains and turned our beautiful Spanish cities into the third world, drowning in filth and crime.

    Shut up in the apartments they receive free from the government, they plan the murder and destruction of their naive hosts.

    And thus, in our misery, we have exchanged culture for fanatical hatred, creative skill for destructive skill, intelligence for backwardness and superstition.

    We have exchanged the pursuit of peace of the Jews of Europe and their talent for a better future for their children, their determined clinging to life because life is holy, for those who pursue death, for people consumed by the desire for death for themselves and others, for our children and theirs.

    What a terrible mistake was made by miserable Europe ..

    A lot of Americans have become so insulated from reality that they imagine America can suffer defeat without any inconvenience to themselves.

    Recently, the UK debated whether to remove The Holocaust from its school curriculum because it ‘offends’ the Muslim population which claims it never occurred. It is not removed as yet. However, this is a frightening portent of the fear that is gripping the world and how easily each country is giving into it.

    It is now more than 60 years after the Second World War in Europe ended.
    This e-mail is being sent as a memorial chain, in memory of the, 6 million Jews, 20 million Russians, 10 million Christians, and 1,900 Catholic priests who were ‘murdered, raped, burned, starved, beaten, experimented on and humiliated’ Now, more than ever, with Iran, among others, claiming the Holocaust to be ‘a myth,’ it is imperative to make sure the world never forgets.

    This e-mail is intended to reach 400 million people. Be a link in the memorial chain and help distribute this around the world.

    How many years will it be before the attack on the World Trade Center ‘NEVER HAPPENED’ because it offends some Muslim in the United States ?

  41. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    An interesting letter from my inbox today:

    The following is a copy of an article written by Spanish writer Sebastian Vilar Rodrigez and published in a Spanish newspaper on Jan. 15 2008. It doesn’t take much imagination to extrapolate the message to the rest of Europe – and possibly to the rest of the world.
    IT WAS IN A SPANISH PAPER
    Date: Tue. 15 January 2008 14:30
    EUROPEAN LIFE DIED IN AUSCHWITZ
    By Sebastian Vilar Rodrigez
    I walked down the street in Barcelona, and suddenly discovered a terrible truth – Europe died in Auschwitz … We killed six million Jews and replaced them with 20 million Muslims. In Auschwitz we burned a culture, thought, creativity, talent. We destroyed the chosen people, truly chosen, because they produced great and wonderful people who changed the world.
    The contribution of this people is felt in all areas of life: science, art, international trade, and above all, as the conscience of the world.
    These are the people we burned.
    And under the pretense of tolerance, and because we wanted to prove to ourselves that we were cured of the disease of racism, we opened our gates to 20 million Muslims, who brought us stupidity and ignorance, religious extremism and lack of tolerance, crime and poverty, due to an unwillingness to work and support their families with pride.
    They have blown up our trains and turned our beautiful Spanish cities into the third world, drowning in filth and crime.
    Shut up in the apartments they receive free from the government, they plan the murder and destruction of their naive hosts.
    And thus, in our misery, we have exchanged culture for fanatical hatred, creative skill for destructive skill, intelligence for backwardness and superstition.
    We have exchanged the pursuit of peace of the Jews of Europe and their talent for a better future for their children, their determined clinging to life because life is holy, for those who pursue death, for people consumed by the desire for death for themselves and others, for our children and theirs.
    What a terrible mistake was made by miserable Europe ..
    A lot of Americans have become so insulated from reality that they imagine America can suffer defeat without any inconvenience to themselves.
    Recently, the UK debated whether to remove The Holocaust from its school curriculum because it ‘offends’ the Muslim population which claims it never occurred. It is not removed as yet. However, this is a frightening portent of the fear that is gripping the world and how easily each country is giving into it.
    It is now more than 60 years after the Second World War in Europe ended.
    This e-mail is being sent as a memorial chain, in memory of the, 6 million Jews, 20 million Russians, 10 million Christians, and 1,900 Catholic priests who were ‘murdered, raped, burned, starved, beaten, experimented on and humiliated’ Now, more than ever, with Iran, among others, claiming the Holocaust to be ‘a myth,’ it is imperative to make sure the world never forgets.
    This e-mail is intended to reach 400 million people. Be a link in the memorial chain and help distribute this around the world.
    How many years will it be before the attack on the World Trade Center ‘NEVER HAPPENED’ because it offends some Muslim in the United States ?

  42. Hamous Avatar

    Have you ever had to work for a boss like this?

  43. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Have you ever had to work for a boss like this?

  44. Hamous Avatar

    Stimulus I and II, QE I and II dramatically increased the debt, did not increase employment outside of govt, devalued our currency. The Bernake is now threatening another round of that which does not work because he does not know what else to do.
    He has already admitted that he does no know why the previous stimuli did not work and now he wants to do wissin more of what did not work in the past????
    The only thing that the stimuli has done is dramatically increase our interest costs and produce negative jobs growth.

  45. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Stimulus I and II, QE I and II dramatically increased the debt, did not increase employment outside of govt, devalued our currency. The Bernake is now threatening another round of that which does not work because he does not know what else to do.
    He has already admitted that he does no know why the previous stimuli did not work and now he wants to do wissin more of what did not work in the past????
    The only thing that the stimuli has done is dramatically increase our interest costs and produce negative jobs growth.

  46. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #23 – Mr. BC – Once again I am compelled to point out that you may be falling prey to the normal assumption that someone holding high office in this land would wish to take actions which actually either cause or allow beneficial effects for the nation. However, if your intent was not pure, and your wish was to destroy or at least bring this great country to its knees, then you might readily see where QE3 would not only be desirable but in fact necessary since the country is wobbly but still standing. QE does a couple of desirable things for the administration – it further debases the currency rapidly while at the same time it keeps the stock market propped up creating the illusion of prosperity. Thus, the great unwashed cannot complain too much as their 401(k) is holding its value and they wonder what all the fuss is about – until they go to the gas pump or the grocery store.

    Anyway, all is well in Obamaville, or will be as soon as the Republicans cave on this debt ceiling thing.

  47. El Gordo Avatar

    #23 – Mr. BC – Once again I am compelled to point out that you may be falling prey to the normal assumption that someone holding high office in this land would wish to take actions which actually either cause or allow beneficial effects for the nation. However, if your intent was not pure, and your wish was to destroy or at least bring this great country to its knees, then you might readily see where QE3 would not only be desirable but in fact necessary since the country is wobbly but still standing. QE does a couple of desirable things for the administration – it further debases the currency rapidly while at the same time it keeps the stock market propped up creating the illusion of prosperity. Thus, the great unwashed cannot complain too much as their 401(k) is holding its value and they wonder what all the fuss is about – until they go to the gas pump or the grocery store.
    Anyway, all is well in Obamaville, or will be as soon as the Republicans cave on this debt ceiling thing.

  48. Hamous Avatar

    #24 EG: I would never assume that the Bernake or PF have our best interests at heart. I must try to still believe that most of the Rs and at least some of the Ds want our republic to stand and not fall. In order for this to happen there must be a complete and total rejection of the fiscal insanity that has plagued DC since FDR.

  49. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #24 EG: I would never assume that the Bernake or PF have our best interests at heart. I must try to still believe that most of the Rs and at least some of the Ds want our republic to stand and not fall. In order for this to happen there must be a complete and total rejection of the fiscal insanity that has plagued DC since FDR.

  50. Tedtam Avatar

    The baby alarm yesterday was a false one. No baby yet for my assistant, but it did give me a chance to see if my temporary assistant could handle the pressure. She came in last minute, jumped right in, and did an awesome job.

    Regular assistant came in this morning, looking rather beat up, but she and new assistant have gotten along famously. Training continues tomorrow morning for the newbie. When baby arrives, I will be in good hands.

    I love it when things work out.

  51. Tedtam Avatar

    The baby alarm yesterday was a false one. No baby yet for my assistant, but it did give me a chance to see if my temporary assistant could handle the pressure. She came in last minute, jumped right in, and did an awesome job.
    Regular assistant came in this morning, looking rather beat up, but she and new assistant have gotten along famously. Training continues tomorrow morning for the newbie. When baby arrives, I will be in good hands.
    I love it when things work out.

  52. Tedtam Avatar

    From my email:

    God promised
    While creating husbands, God promised women that good and ideal husbands would be found in all corners of the world.

    And then he made the earth round.

    That God – he’s such a kidder!

  53. Tedtam Avatar

    From my email:

    God promised
    While creating husbands, God promised women that good and ideal husbands would be found in all corners of the world.
    And then he made the earth round.
    That God – he’s such a kidder!

  54. Hamous Avatar

    How come we don’t hear 24/7 about the horrible floods and loss of life in Iowa and other places in the midwest because of that natural disaster?? Levies failed there just like in Norlins and more people died in Iowa. Where are the govt debit cards and free hotel rooms? Where are the accusations from the glitterati about how the HNP in the Whitehouse hates the white man?

  55. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    How come we don’t hear 24/7 about the horrible floods and loss of life in Iowa and other places in the midwest because of that natural disaster?? Levies failed there just like in Norlins and more people died in Iowa. Where are the govt debit cards and free hotel rooms? Where are the accusations from the glitterati about how the HNP in the Whitehouse hates the white man?

  56. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    That TT is such a kidder, surrounded by all these perfect Hamster men.

  57. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    That TT is such a kidder, surrounded by all these perfect Hamster men.

  58. Hamous Avatar

    San Franfreako is the granola city of the granola state! Now they are trying to pass a law that private companies can not ask about a persons jail history. Why bother to get a resume? To be completely fair the bulk of the legislation is aimed at housing, but who really thinks it will end there?

  59. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    San Franfreako is the granola city of the granola state! Now they are trying to pass a law that private companies can not ask about a persons jail history. Why bother to get a resume? To be completely fair the bulk of the legislation is aimed at housing, but who really thinks it will end there?

  60. Hamous Avatar

    When I was a single guy, I always figured that wimmins were like parking places, the good ones were all taken and the rest were handicapped.

  61. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    When I was a single guy, I always figured that wimmins were like parking places, the good ones were all taken and the rest were handicapped.

  62. Tedtam Avatar

    #31 Boney

    I always heard that as a statement about men.

  63. Tedtam Avatar

    #31 Boney
    I always heard that as a statement about men.

  64. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #26 TT
    Good news all around.

  65. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #26 TT
    Good news all around.

  66. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #30 Bones

    who really thinks it will end there?

    Soon there will be no one left in Kalifornia except illegals and ex-cons.

  67. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #30 Bones

    who really thinks it will end there?

    Soon there will be no one left in Kalifornia except illegals and ex-cons.

  68. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    OMG Bunsonburner is in FIFY land. Hang in thre bunson we will sand someone to get ya out of there.

    We need volunteers to retrieve bunsonburner form FIFY Land before he gets striked through and edited.

  69. squawkbox Avatar

    OMG Bunsonburner is in FIFY land. Hang in thre bunson we will sand someone to get ya out of there.
    We need volunteers to retrieve bunsonburner form FIFY Land before he gets striked through and edited.

  70. Katfish Avatar

    Finally got back to the computer. All-day meeting.

    Hammie gets a partial prize. I’m in Edmonton.

    The reason for the partial? First of all it’s not Edmunton.

    Second, I’m pretty sure the flowers are not mustard. I think they are rape plants (related to mustard and cabbage). The seed from the rape plant are crushed to yield a cooking oil, one variety of which is canola (CANadian Oilseed – Low Acid).

  71. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Finally got back to the computer. All-day meeting.
    Hammie gets a partial prize. I’m in Edmonton.
    The reason for the partial? First of all it’s not Edmunton.
    Second, I’m pretty sure the flowers are not mustard. I think they are rape plants (related to mustard and cabbage). The seed from the rape plant are crushed to yield a cooking oil, one variety of which is canola (CANadian Oilseed – Low Acid).

  72. Katfish Avatar

    Everytime I go to Central/Western Canada it weirds me out. If it weren’t for the road signs being in kilometers, the occasional PetroCanada or Husky gas station, and money with a picture of the Queen on it, you’d swear you were in Wyoming or Colorado.

  73. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Everytime I go to Central/Western Canada it weirds me out. If it weren’t for the road signs being in kilometers, the occasional PetroCanada or Husky gas station, and money with a picture of the Queen on it, you’d swear you were in Wyoming or Colorado.

  74. timdenchanter Avatar
    timdenchanter

    #18 – Here’s a few hundred more gummint agencies you might want included.

  75. timdenchanter Avatar
    timdenchanter

    #18 – Here’s a few hundred more gummint agencies you might want included.

  76. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    See if you can guess where the wagonburner is.

    I was going to guess he was in the fields picking the pretty yellow flowers while skipping along.

    I’m in Edmonton

    Bullcaca. Where’s the mall?

    First of all it’s not Edmunton

    Huh? Wyoming?

  77. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    See if you can guess where the wagonburner is.

    I was going to guess he was in the fields picking the pretty yellow flowers while skipping along.

    I’m in Edmonton

    Bullcaca. Where’s the mall?

    First of all it’s not Edmunton

    Huh? Wyoming?

  78. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    you’d swear you were in Wyoming or Colorado

    While in Utah I drove a girl /college student who was from Edmunton from Provo to Alpine (I think) and she told me of the similarities between Edmunton much of Wyoming.

    It was educational.

  79. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    you’d swear you were in Wyoming or Colorado

    While in Utah I drove a girl /college student who was from Edmunton from Provo to Alpine (I think) and she told me of the similarities between Edmunton much of Wyoming.
    It was educational.

  80. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    mharper #4;

    The photo does not look like France.

    It’s missing THIS.

  81. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    mharper #4;

    The photo does not look like France.

    It’s missing THIS.

  82. Tedtam Avatar

    #36 Wagonburner

    Second, I’m pretty sure the flowers are not mustard. I think they are rape plants (related to mustard and cabbage).

    Good little Catholic girls are kept out of these fields.

  83. Tedtam Avatar

    #36 Wagonburner

    Second, I’m pretty sure the flowers are not mustard. I think they are rape plants (related to mustard and cabbage).

    Good little Catholic girls are kept out of these fields.

  84. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    In the American system, if you read the Constitution correctly — this is why I wrote “A Nation Like No Other” — if you read the Federalist Papers correctly, the fact is the Congress can pass a law and can limit the Court’s jurisdiction. It’s written directly in the Constitution. The Federalist Papers, Alexander Hamilton promises, I think it’s Number 78, that the judiciary branch is the weakest of the three branches. There is no Supreme Court in the American Constitution. There’s the court which is the Supreme of the judicial branch, but it’s not supreme over the legislative and executive branch. We now have this entire national elite that wants us to believe that any five lawyers are a Constitutional convention. That is profoundly un-American and profoundly wrong.

    (Bold copied)

    Yes Newt, There IS a Supreme Court in the Constitution

  85. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    In the American system, if you read the Constitution correctly — this is why I wrote “A Nation Like No Other” — if you read the Federalist Papers correctly, the fact is the Congress can pass a law and can limit the Court’s jurisdiction. It’s written directly in the Constitution. The Federalist Papers, Alexander Hamilton promises, I think it’s Number 78, that the judiciary branch is the weakest of the three branches. There is no Supreme Court in the American Constitution. There’s the court which is the Supreme of the judicial branch, but it’s not supreme over the legislative and executive branch. We now have this entire national elite that wants us to believe that any five lawyers are a Constitutional convention. That is profoundly un-American and profoundly wrong.

    (Bold copied)
    Yes Newt, There IS a Supreme Court in the Constitution

  86. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Good little Catholic girls are kept out of these fields.

    Yeah, send in the Protestants. 😉

  87. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Good little Catholic girls are kept out of these fields.

    Yeah, send in the Protestants. 😉

  88. Katfish Avatar

    Good little Catholic girls are kept out of these fields.

    Must. Bite. Tongue.

    Must. Not. Say. Anything.

  89. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Good little Catholic girls are kept out of these fields.

    Must. Bite. Tongue.
    Must. Not. Say. Anything.

  90. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #41 Darren: :>)

  91. Hamous Avatar

    #42 TT: Don’t wanna give em an alibi do ya?

  92. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #42 TT: Don’t wanna give em an alibi do ya?

  93. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    The reason for the partial? First of all it’s not Edmunton.

    Good lord. One letter?

    Second, I’m pretty sure the flowers are not mustard.

    The type of flower was not part of the quiz, it was just a hint to the answer. I won fair and square!

  94. Hamous Avatar

    The reason for the partial? First of all it’s not Edmunton.

    Good lord. One letter?

    Second, I’m pretty sure the flowers are not mustard.

    The type of flower was not part of the quiz, it was just a hint to the answer. I won fair and square!

  95. Katfish Avatar

    One other thing.

    I went through Canadian customs in Calgary. It must be me, but every time I’ve come to Canada, I have a hard time getting in because of work issues. Used to be that I was actually doing paid consulting work as a vendor for Canadian companies as my customers. This time, I am visiting one of our own plants and they still hassled me. One time before, I got to spend three wonderful days sitting on my own personal a$$ in Port Huron, MI trying to get across the bridge to Sarnia, ON.

    ok, two 😀 After I cleared customs, I wound up in the main concourse outside the secure area. Going through security was actually not bad. I got “randomly selected” to get my hands swabbed to look for explosives residue (which I passed). In return, I got to go through the “nice people” line, which was pretty fast-moving. I did not have to remove my shoes (nobody else did either unless the metal detector went off); laptops stayed in the case; liquids stayed in the suitcase. Common-sense non theater security.

    And the screeners were intelligent, professional, and courteous – everything those TSA dolts are not.

  96. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    One other thing.
    I went through Canadian customs in Calgary. It must be me, but every time I’ve come to Canada, I have a hard time getting in because of work issues. Used to be that I was actually doing paid consulting work as a vendor for Canadian companies as my customers. This time, I am visiting one of our own plants and they still hassled me. One time before, I got to spend three wonderful days sitting on my own personal a$$ in Port Huron, MI trying to get across the bridge to Sarnia, ON.
    ok, two 😀 After I cleared customs, I wound up in the main concourse outside the secure area. Going through security was actually not bad. I got “randomly selected” to get my hands swabbed to look for explosives residue (which I passed). In return, I got to go through the “nice people” line, which was pretty fast-moving. I did not have to remove my shoes (nobody else did either unless the metal detector went off); laptops stayed in the case; liquids stayed in the suitcase. Common-sense non theater security.
    And the screeners were intelligent, professional, and courteous – everything those TSA dolts are not.

  97. Katfish Avatar

    Good lord. One letter?

    A great schism in the Church happened over one word. On a proportional basis, the “u” vs. “o” controversy is much worse.

  98. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Good lord. One letter?

    A great schism in the Church happened over one word. On a proportional basis, the “u” vs. “o” controversy is much worse.

  99. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Besides, I just checked and I spelled it right 😉

  100. Hamous Avatar

    Besides, I just checked and I spelled it right 😉

  101. Hamous Avatar

    #50 Statutes vs statues

  102. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #50 Statutes vs statues

  103. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Yep, Hammy did spell it correctly in #16.

    I’m further narrowing my guess to Edmonton.

    Darren is the one who said Edmunton, but Darren’s spelling is often “non-traditional”. 🙂 Plus I’m not even sure what country he was talking about. He mentioned several states, but I didn’t find any US city spelled that way.

  104. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Yep, Hammy did spell it correctly in #16.

    I’m further narrowing my guess to Edmonton.

    Darren is the one who said Edmunton, but Darren’s spelling is often “non-traditional”. 🙂 Plus I’m not even sure what country he was talking about. He mentioned several states, but I didn’t find any US city spelled that way.

  105. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Katfish, did you see the suggestions late last night for things you could do to check on your gravatar? Cowboy & Hammy had some good ones.

  106. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Katfish, did you see the suggestions late last night for things you could do to check on your gravatar? Cowboy & Hammy had some good ones.

  107. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    but Darren’s spelling is often “non-traditional”

    You’re so sensative and kind, Madame.

  108. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    but Darren’s spelling is often “non-traditional”

    You’re so sensative and kind, Madame.

  109. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    A great schism in the Church happened over one word.

    Wow, now I’m curious.

  110. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    A great schism in the Church happened over one word.

    Wow, now I’m curious.

  111. Katfish Avatar

    #53 mh42
    Hammie’s also been known to be a bit of a revisionist. 😉

  112. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #53 mh42
    Hammie’s also been known to be a bit of a revisionist. 😉

  113. Dooood Avatar

    Canola Oil

    Back in the 70s, when agronomists finally came up with a lab hybrid from wild rapeseed plants, it was determined the oil could be marketed as an alternative to corn oil used so heavily in the US. The problem was the name. The Canucks knew trying to market something called RAPEseed oil was going to be a problem.

    Thus they arrive upon Can-o-la: CANadian Oil Low Acid

    And Hamous is right again !

    The rapeseed plant is a member of the mustard family.

  114. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    Canola Oil
    Back in the 70s, when agronomists finally came up with a lab hybrid from wild rapeseed plants, it was determined the oil could be marketed as an alternative to corn oil used so heavily in the US. The problem was the name. The Canucks knew trying to market something called RAPEseed oil was going to be a problem.
    Thus they arrive upon Can-o-la: CANadian Oil Low Acid
    And Hamous is right again !
    The rapeseed plant is a member of the mustard family.

  115. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    And Hamous is right again !

    And it’s about time. Sheesh!

  116. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    And Hamous is right again !

    And it’s about time. Sheesh!

  117. Katfish Avatar

    #53 mh42
    Things are not always as they seem. The hamster is not above a little revisionism from time to time. 😉

  118. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #53 mh42
    Things are not always as they seem. The hamster is not above a little revisionism from time to time. 😉

  119. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    The Canucks knew trying to market something called RAPEseed oil was going to be a problem.

    Damn feminists.

  120. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    The Canucks knew trying to market something called RAPEseed oil was going to be a problem.

    Damn feminists.

  121. phil Avatar
    phil

    Dang, Boehner referred to Obumma as Jell-O.

    Could the perpetual teary-eyed one be changing his tune?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWabM9YzRqY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

  122. phil Avatar
    phil

    Dang, Boehner referred to Obumma as Jell-O.
    Could the perpetual teary-eyed one be changing his tune?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWabM9YzRqY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

  123. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Everyone knows canola oil comes from the squeezings of the pancreas of wild, baby canola bunnies.

  124. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Everyone knows canola oil comes from the squeezings of the pancreas of wild, baby canola bunnies.

  125. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #55 Darren

    You’re so sensative and kind, Madame

    But.. but.. I used a smiley to soften the blow. BTW, that is “sensitive”. 🙂

  126. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #55 Darren

    You’re so sensative and kind, Madame

    But.. but.. I used a smiley to soften the blow. BTW, that is “sensitive”. 🙂

  127. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #57 Pyro
    Good point! Did that rascal go back and clean it up? You have access to the revision history, don’t you?

  128. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #57 Pyro
    Good point! Did that rascal go back and clean it up? You have access to the revision history, don’t you?

  129. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #62 Phil
    When I saw that headline, I wondered if there is such a thing as chocolate jello… Chocolate jello PUDDING, well, yeah.

  130. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #62 Phil
    When I saw that headline, I wondered if there is such a thing as chocolate jello… Chocolate jello PUDDING, well, yeah.

  131. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Well it worked on Ma-In-Law, she came in earlier asking if we’d heard she wasn’t gonna get her SS check. Then the eyes glaze over with the explanation. Shame on these wissin people, I hope there will be a special place….

  132. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Well it worked on Ma-In-Law, she came in earlier asking if we’d heard she wasn’t gonna get her SS check. Then the eyes glaze over with the explanation. Shame on these wissin people, I hope there will be a special place….

  133. Hamous Avatar

    Surely the VMG is gonna wake up to the manipulation they have suffered at the hands of the D-terds all these years now that the Ds no longer control all the info sources, won’t they?

  134. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Surely the VMG is gonna wake up to the manipulation they have suffered at the hands of the D-terds all these years now that the Ds no longer control all the info sources, won’t they?

  135. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Yabut the seasoned citizens will think about it for about 2 seconds when voting and then say No, I can’t take the chance.

  136. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Yabut the seasoned citizens will think about it for about 2 seconds when voting and then say No, I can’t take the chance.

  137. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    68, I consider my self an independent and part of the VMG. Just like Mercutio…I say “A Pox on Both Your Houses!”.

    Neither party has acted with one scintilla of leadership when dealing with the financial crisis.
    It is no longer an issue of which one is right or wrong, but which one is “worser’.

    Simple

  138. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    68, I consider my self an independent and part of the VMG. Just like Mercutio…I say “A Pox on Both Your Houses!”.
    Neither party has acted with one scintilla of leadership when dealing with the financial crisis.
    It is no longer an issue of which one is right or wrong, but which one is “worser’.
    Simple

  139. Tedtam Avatar

    I just came across this clip in an old email.

    Truly amazing.

  140. Tedtam Avatar

    I just came across this clip in an old email.
    Truly amazing.

  141. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Now what is VMG? Give me a hint at least.

    Vast Middle Ground?

  142. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Now what is VMG? Give me a hint at least.
    Vast Middle Ground?

  143. Katfish Avatar

    #56 darren
    “filioque”

  144. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #56 darren
    “filioque”

  145. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    “and son” if I remember my 9th grade Latin.

  146. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    “and son” if I remember my 9th grade Latin.

  147. Katfish Avatar

    And Hamous is right again !

    The rapeseed plant is a member of the mustard family.

    By this tortured logic, Bush Peré needn’t have worried about his dislike for broccoli.

    It’s a member of the cabbage family (as is mustard and rape), so voila! it’s cabbage, not broccoli.

  148. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    And Hamous is right again !
    The rapeseed plant is a member of the mustard family.

    By this tortured logic, Bush Peré needn’t have worried about his dislike for broccoli.
    It’s a member of the cabbage family (as is mustard and rape), so voila! it’s cabbage, not broccoli.

  149. Katfish Avatar

    Now what is VMG?

    Vast Middle Ground (i.e. those who are not rabid in their politics and don’t demand some hypothetical purity from their candidates).

  150. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Now what is VMG?

    Vast Middle Ground (i.e. those who are not rabid in their politics and don’t demand some hypothetical purity from their candidates).

  151. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    V ast
    M iddle
    G round

    or as I prefer

    V ery
    M indless
    G oofs

  152. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    V ast
    M iddle
    G round
    or as I prefer
    V ery
    M indless
    G oofs

  153. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Vast Middle Ground came to me after I googled and all I found was “Velocity Made Good” 🙂

  154. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Vast Middle Ground came to me after I googled and all I found was “Velocity Made Good” 🙂

  155. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    #78

    It’s one of Benzene’s concoctions, he’s not made Google yet.

  156. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #78
    It’s one of Benzene’s concoctions, he’s not made Google yet.

  157. Katfish Avatar

    #74 mh42
    Close.

    “and from the Son”

    It was added by the First Council of Constantinople to the Nicene Creed to describe the Holy Spirit:
    Qui ex Patre Filióque procédit. “Who proceeds from the Father and from the Son.”

  158. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #74 mh42
    Close.
    “and from the Son”
    It was added by the First Council of Constantinople to the Nicene Creed to describe the Holy Spirit:
    Qui ex Patre Filióque procédit. “Who proceeds from the Father and from the Son.”

  159. Katfish Avatar

    You have access to the revision history, don’t you?

    There is no history being kept.

    He knows and I know. That’s all that really matters. 😉

  160. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    You have access to the revision history, don’t you?

    There is no history being kept.
    He knows and I know. That’s all that really matters. 😉

  161. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    It’s one of Benzene’s concoctions, he’s not made Google yet.

    Actually it was “Benzene and his back channel Cronies” that concocted that saying for LST consumption. They cleaned it up from what one or two said cronies really called the VMG.

  162. squawkbox Avatar

    It’s one of Benzene’s concoctions, he’s not made Google yet.

    Actually it was “Benzene and his back channel Cronies” that concocted that saying for LST consumption. They cleaned it up from what one or two said cronies really called the VMG.

  163. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Vast Middle Ground (i.e. those who are not rabid in their politics and don’t demand some hypothetical purity from their candidates).

    No that is not correct. The VMG are the folks that go with the wind that is blown up their skirt. They generally vote liberal and are not really worth the time that people (politicians especially repukicans) spend courting them.

  164. squawkbox Avatar

    Vast Middle Ground (i.e. those who are not rabid in their politics and don’t demand some hypothetical purity from their candidates).

    No that is not correct. The VMG are the folks that go with the wind that is blown up their skirt. They generally vote liberal and are not really worth the time that people (politicians especially repukicans) spend courting them.

  165. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    82

    I’d rather be, a VMG
    Than a lemming, running to the sea

    Sorry J,P,G,& R

    Simple

  166. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    82
    I’d rather be, a VMG
    Than a lemming, running to the sea
    Sorry J,P,G,& R
    Simple

  167. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Well I am just real proud for ya.

  168. squawkbox Avatar

    Well I am just real proud for ya.

  169. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    be sweet, now

  170. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Wagon #73 & mharper #74;

    “filioque”

    “and son” if I remember my 9th grade Latin.

    “Filho” in Portuguese means “son”. Good memory mharper.

  171. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Wagon #73 & mharper #74;

    “filioque”

    “and son” if I remember my 9th grade Latin.

    “Filho” in Portuguese means “son”. Good memory mharper.

  172. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    The term means “and from the Son” and refers to the phrase in the Western version of the Nicene Creed which says that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son. Originally this was not in the confessions agreed to at Nicaea (325) and Constantinople (381). It seems to have been first inserted at the local Council of Toledo (589) and in spite of opposition gradually established itself in the West, being officially endorsed in 1017. Photius of Constantinople denounced it in the ninth century, and it formed the main doctrinal issue in the rupture between East and West in 1054. An attempted compromise at Florence in 1439 came to nothing. Among the fathers Hilary, Jerome, Ambrose, Augustine, Epiphanius, and Cyril of Alexandria may be cited in its favor; Theodore of Mopsuestia and Theodoret against it; with the Cappadocians occupying the middle ground of “from the Father through the Son.”

    One word makes a huge difference. (No spiritual pun intended 🙂 )

    http://mb-soft.com/believe/txn/filioque.htm

  173. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    The term means “and from the Son” and refers to the phrase in the Western version of the Nicene Creed which says that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son. Originally this was not in the confessions agreed to at Nicaea (325) and Constantinople (381). It seems to have been first inserted at the local Council of Toledo (589) and in spite of opposition gradually established itself in the West, being officially endorsed in 1017. Photius of Constantinople denounced it in the ninth century, and it formed the main doctrinal issue in the rupture between East and West in 1054. An attempted compromise at Florence in 1439 came to nothing. Among the fathers Hilary, Jerome, Ambrose, Augustine, Epiphanius, and Cyril of Alexandria may be cited in its favor; Theodore of Mopsuestia and Theodoret against it; with the Cappadocians occupying the middle ground of “from the Father through the Son.”

    One word makes a huge difference. (No spiritual pun intended 🙂 )
    http://mb-soft.com/believe/txn/filioque.htm

  174. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    #80;

    Aha! 🙂

  175. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    #80;
    Aha! 🙂

  176. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Let’s give it up for Obama:

    Leader!
    Leader!
    Leader!

    President Barack Obama abruptly walked out of a stormy debt-limit meeting with congressional leaders Wednesday, a dramatic setback to the already shaky negotiations.

    “He shoved back and said ‘I’ll see you tomorrow’ and walked out,” House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) told reporters in the Capitol after the meeting.

    On a day when the Moody’s rating agency warned that American debt could be downgraded, the White House talks blew up amid a new round of sniping between Obama and Cantor, who are fast becoming bitter enemies.

    Leader!
    Leader!
    Leader!

    President Obama abruptly walks out of talks

  177. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Let’s give it up for Obama:
    Leader!
    Leader!
    Leader!

    President Barack Obama abruptly walked out of a stormy debt-limit meeting with congressional leaders Wednesday, a dramatic setback to the already shaky negotiations.
    “He shoved back and said ‘I’ll see you tomorrow’ and walked out,” House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) told reporters in the Capitol after the meeting.
    On a day when the Moody’s rating agency warned that American debt could be downgraded, the White House talks blew up amid a new round of sniping between Obama and Cantor, who are fast becoming bitter enemies.

    Leader!
    Leader!
    Leader!
    President Obama abruptly walks out of talks

  178. Katfish Avatar

    Passion Fingers is not used to having to defend his positions (or even taking a position in the first place).

  179. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Passion Fingers is not used to having to defend his positions (or even taking a position in the first place).

  180. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    About the flowers. Let’s go back and look what I said:

    Looks like mustard.

    I didn’t say it was mustard. I said it looks like mustard. An accurate observation, I’d say.

  181. Hamous Avatar

    About the flowers. Let’s go back and look what I said:

    Looks like mustard.

    I didn’t say it was mustard. I said it looks like mustard. An accurate observation, I’d say.

  182. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I just spotted this via Hot Air regarding Obama’s walk out on Canotr.

    “This may bring my presidency down, but I will not yield on this,” he said.

    That’s truly exciting! Come now everyone…

    Leader!
    Leader!
    Leader!

    Whoahoo!!!!!!

    Obama: ‘This May Bring My Presidency Down, but I Will Not Yield’ on No Short-Term Extensions

  183. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I just spotted this via Hot Air regarding Obama’s walk out on Canotr.

    “This may bring my presidency down, but I will not yield on this,” he said.

    That’s truly exciting! Come now everyone…
    Leader!
    Leader!
    Leader!
    Whoahoo!!!!!!
    Obama: ‘This May Bring My Presidency Down, but I Will Not Yield’ on No Short-Term Extensions

  184. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I said it looks like mustard.

    And I say they look like flowers.

  185. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I said it looks like mustard.

    And I say they look like flowers.

  186. Katfish Avatar

    I didn’t say it was mustard. I said it looks like mustard.

    According to texpat, it looks like cabbage or broccoli or brussels sprouts or cauliflower.

  187. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I didn’t say it was mustard. I said it looks like mustard.

    According to texpat, it looks like cabbage or broccoli or brussels sprouts or cauliflower.

  188. Dooood Avatar

    Somebody take that saw away from WB before he completely saws through the limb.

  189. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    Somebody take that saw away from WB before he completely saws through the limb.

  190. Dooood Avatar

    #70 Simple

    Neither party has acted with one scintilla of leadership when dealing with the financial crisis.
    It is no longer an issue of which one is right or wrong, but which one is “worser’.

    Dumbest comment of the week exceeded only by the cowardly, back-handed insult of your comment in #84:

    I’d rather be, a VMG
    Than a lemming, running to the sea

  191. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #70 Simple

    Neither party has acted with one scintilla of leadership when dealing with the financial crisis.
    It is no longer an issue of which one is right or wrong, but which one is “worser’.

    Dumbest comment of the week exceeded only by the cowardly, back-handed insult of your comment in #84:

    I’d rather be, a VMG
    Than a lemming, running to the sea

  192. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Could it be true? The Reps stood up to the thug in chief, and not getting his way, the TIC left the room in a huff? Are they starting to show a little spine after all? Are they starting to realize what many of us have known all along – the emperor has no clothes?

    They’ve got his trapped if they can stand firm. He’s already admitted the country cannot pay its obligations – the rating services normally accept the word of the President of the company on something like that when considering debt ratings – I would immediate go to CCC just on that statement.

    Oh well, I’ve gotten my hopes up before. Wouldn’t it really be something though if they did the right thing and did not raise the debrt ceiling and started methodically cutting spending? What a daydream.

  193. El Gordo Avatar

    Could it be true? The Reps stood up to the thug in chief, and not getting his way, the TIC left the room in a huff? Are they starting to show a little spine after all? Are they starting to realize what many of us have known all along – the emperor has no clothes?
    They’ve got his trapped if they can stand firm. He’s already admitted the country cannot pay its obligations – the rating services normally accept the word of the President of the company on something like that when considering debt ratings – I would immediate go to CCC just on that statement.
    Oh well, I’ve gotten my hopes up before. Wouldn’t it really be something though if they did the right thing and did not raise the debrt ceiling and started methodically cutting spending? What a daydream.

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