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Monday Potpourri Open Comments

Today we start with a couple of news items involving strip searches or facsimilies thereof:
Strip Search Finds Crack Between Buttocks I thought that was pretty common.
Man angered by TSA “enhanced search” when his pants drop in front of crowd
We now move on to teh ghey:
Woman plays baseball with her live-in partner and some dude.

Iowa City Police say a woman who walked in on her live-in partner having sex with a man hit him repeatedly with a baseball bat in an effort get him to leave the residence.

Teh ghey is in a tizzy over an iPhone app.
Lastly, don’t mess with a man’s Beefy Crunch Burrito.

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256 responses to “Monday Potpourri Open Comments”

  1. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    I have the perfect body… I’m storing it in the trunk for now.

  2. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    I have the perfect body… I’m storing it in the trunk for now.

  3. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Good posts Wagonburner, keep them flaming arrows coming.

    2nd

    Bob, you know Earl?

  4. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Good posts Wagonburner, keep them flaming arrows coming.
    2nd
    Bob, you know Earl?

  5. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    speaking off poti puree, I find this amusing

    http://www.redstate.com/laborunionreport/2011/03/20/arianna-huffingtons-hilarious-hypocrisy-union-busting-likea-capitalist-pig/

    Can you imagine someone continually contributing thoughts and ideas to a blog for free, what idiots.

    … hey, wait a minute.

    🙂

  6. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    speaking off poti puree, I find this amusing
    http://www.redstate.com/laborunionreport/2011/03/20/arianna-huffingtons-hilarious-hypocrisy-union-busting-likea-capitalist-pig/
    Can you imagine someone continually contributing thoughts and ideas to a blog for free, what idiots.
    … hey, wait a minute.
    🙂

  7. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    I’m pretty sure hammie couldn’t sell this place for millions of bux like Arianna did with the Puffington Host.

  8. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I’m pretty sure hammie couldn’t sell this place for millions of bux like Arianna did with the Puffington Host.

  9. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    “Who The Hell Do You Think You Are?” Farrakhan Blasts Obama For Calling For Qaddafi to Step Down (Video)
    Liberal Democrats in uproar over Libya action.
    Yup they’re eating their own.
    Mornin’ Gang

  10. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    “Who The Hell Do You Think You Are?” Farrakhan Blasts Obama For Calling For Qaddafi to Step Down (Video)
    Liberal Democrats in uproar over Libya action.
    Yup they’re eating their own.
    Mornin’ Gang

  11. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Maybe I missed a step along the way, but did we start military activities in Libya on the basis of some UN resolution while side-stepping our own Congress? Oh, I forget, Big O don’t need no stinkin’ Congress – or Federal judges either. After all, he is the anointed one, the one we have all been waiting for. If NASA were still around, they could probably find a new star shining brightly in the east for his inauguration. Yep, no need to ask any more foolish questions – just accept what is going down knowing that it’s all being done for the children.

  12. El Gordo Avatar
    El Gordo

    Maybe I missed a step along the way, but did we start military activities in Libya on the basis of some UN resolution while side-stepping our own Congress? Oh, I forget, Big O don’t need no stinkin’ Congress – or Federal judges either. After all, he is the anointed one, the one we have all been waiting for. If NASA were still around, they could probably find a new star shining brightly in the east for his inauguration. Yep, no need to ask any more foolish questions – just accept what is going down knowing that it’s all being done for the children.

  13. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    I’ve always wonder what ‘gruntled’ means (since we have a clear connotation of disgruntled)

    All THAT for $3.50 worth of price increases on 7 friggin burritos?

    I bet by the time the dust settles ‘Mr. Disgruntled’ could easily be “out” $35 THOUSAND!

  14. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    I’ve always wonder what ‘gruntled’ means (since we have a clear connotation of disgruntled)
    All THAT for $3.50 worth of price increases on 7 friggin burritos?
    I bet by the time the dust settles ‘Mr. Disgruntled’ could easily be “out” $35 THOUSAND!

  15. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    I heard on FOXNews this am that the D’s were stirring the IMPEACHMENT pot over the Libya thang. While I welcome the concept of getting his foulness out of the WhiteHouse, I cringe at the thought of Joe The D!p$hit Biden with his hand on the button.

  16. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    I heard on FOXNews this am that the D’s were stirring the IMPEACHMENT pot over the Libya thang. While I welcome the concept of getting his foulness out of the WhiteHouse, I cringe at the thought of Joe The D!p$hit Biden with his hand on the button.

  17. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    What is our mission in Libya?

    We always hear talk about “What is the ‘end game’?” meaning how do we tell when we are finished and what does victory look like.

    I want to know what the ‘begin game’ is. Whose side are we on? Can we tell who our “friends” are? Pretty much everyone outside of a relatively small Libyan Army contingent is wearing civilian clothes. How can they tell each other apart?

    If you jump into a knife fight, you had better have a reasonable idea of what you think you’re going to do when you get in there.

  18. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    What is our mission in Libya?
    We always hear talk about “What is the ‘end game’?” meaning how do we tell when we are finished and what does victory look like.
    I want to know what the ‘begin game’ is. Whose side are we on? Can we tell who our “friends” are? Pretty much everyone outside of a relatively small Libyan Army contingent is wearing civilian clothes. How can they tell each other apart?
    If you jump into a knife fight, you had better have a reasonable idea of what you think you’re going to do when you get in there.

  19. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    And NPR shows how classy the are.

    http://michellemalkin.com/2011/03/21/hey-npr-fund-your-own-lame-liberal-humor-and-leave-my-family-alone/#comments

  20. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    And NPR shows how classy the are.
    http://michellemalkin.com/2011/03/21/hey-npr-fund-your-own-lame-liberal-humor-and-leave-my-family-alone/#comments

  21. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    It looks like the foul “O” is in campaign mode again. I did not bother to read the article; the photo speaks volumes. The foul one is supposedly there to promote trade between North and South America; I think that another undeserved vacation is a far more accurate description.

  22. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    It looks like the foul “O” is in campaign mode again. I did not bother to read the article; the photo speaks volumes. The foul one is supposedly there to promote trade between North and South America; I think that another undeserved vacation is a far more accurate description.

  23. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    #10 TEX: That NPR would choose to go after Michelle Malkin now, while her family is in fear of a cousin’s life, doesn’t just “cross the line” it defecates on the line as they go past. If the 2 R’s from Texas can’t vote to de-fund NPR after this then to h_ll with both of them.

  24. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #10 TEX: That NPR would choose to go after Michelle Malkin now, while her family is in fear of a cousin’s life, doesn’t just “cross the line” it defecates on the line as they go past. If the 2 R’s from Texas can’t vote to de-fund NPR after this then to h_ll with both of them.

  25. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    #11 bone
    You know, for someone who has all these style people shopping for her, styling her hair, applying makeup, training her, etc. Michelle sure looks like she needs more help. Does she tell them “Make me look frumpy and be sure to make my a$$ look big and wide.”?

  26. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #11 bone
    You know, for someone who has all these style people shopping for her, styling her hair, applying makeup, training her, etc. Michelle sure looks like she needs more help. Does she tell them “Make me look frumpy and be sure to make my a$$ look big and wide.”?

  27. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #12 Bonecrusher
    I agree whole heartedly. These people are below are below dispicable.

  28. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #12 Bonecrusher
    I agree whole heartedly. These people are below are below dispicable.

  29. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    #13 Pyro: It almost looks like she goes out of her way to be classless. If she didn’t have a clue, she would get it right on occasion, BUT SHE NEVER DOES! It is like all the policies coming from the WH, if he were merely an incompetent fool he would get it right every now and then BUT HE NEVER DOES!
    What we are witnessing is a concerted effort to diminish the USA in every conceivable measure. They are trying to get those paying attention to get so pizzed off that they will start to violently revolt, that way they can trigger martial law and stay in power like Mo Qadaffi, or Hugo Chavez.

  30. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #13 Pyro: It almost looks like she goes out of her way to be classless. If she didn’t have a clue, she would get it right on occasion, BUT SHE NEVER DOES! It is like all the policies coming from the WH, if he were merely an incompetent fool he would get it right every now and then BUT HE NEVER DOES!
    What we are witnessing is a concerted effort to diminish the USA in every conceivable measure. They are trying to get those paying attention to get so pizzed off that they will start to violently revolt, that way they can trigger martial law and stay in power like Mo Qadaffi, or Hugo Chavez.

  31. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    LIVING EARTHQUAKE DETECTORS are being deployed in North Korea.

    The belief that wild and domestic animals possess a sixth sense — and know in advance when the earth is going to shake — has been around for centuries,

    This actually goes to prove my points in #15 above. In this case, Ole Kim Jong “Sick SOB” IL actually makes good sense.

  32. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    LIVING EARTHQUAKE DETECTORS are being deployed in North Korea.

    The belief that wild and domestic animals possess a sixth sense — and know in advance when the earth is going to shake — has been around for centuries,

    This actually goes to prove my points in #15 above. In this case, Ole Kim Jong “Sick SOB” IL actually makes good sense.

  33. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    This is NOT good.
    US Army ‘kill team’ in Afghanistan posed for photos of murdered civiliansCommanders brace for backlash of anti-US sentiment that could be more damaging than after the Abu Ghraib scandal.

  34. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    This is NOT good.
    US Army ‘kill team’ in Afghanistan posed for photos of murdered civiliansCommanders brace for backlash of anti-US sentiment that could be more damaging than after the Abu Ghraib scandal.

  35. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    Bashar Assad has some trouble at home – and his response: kill the protesters.

    The Syrian army deployed on Monday at the entrances to the southern city of Deraa as officials tried to calm passions following protests for freedom in which five civilians were killed, residents said.

    What a guy, it kind of makes you want to ask him over for dinner, doesn’t it?
    /sarc off, spits and cusses.

  36. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Bashar Assad has some trouble at home – and his response: kill the protesters.

    The Syrian army deployed on Monday at the entrances to the southern city of Deraa as officials tried to calm passions following protests for freedom in which five civilians were killed, residents said.

    What a guy, it kind of makes you want to ask him over for dinner, doesn’t it?
    /sarc off, spits and cusses.

  37. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    More of above.

  38. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    More of above.

  39. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    #17,19 SD: The only saving grace we have in this case, is that the terdnozzles are already on trial for stooooopidity. I don’t doubt that we have lots of darned professional “hit squads” in all of our theaters of activity; the difference is that the pro’s don’t publish wissin pictures of the events. If the terdnozzles on trial are found guilty, they should be punished severely AND the US needs to promote that fact. When the people we are trying to help see that we actually police and punish our own, they may back down.

  40. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #17,19 SD: The only saving grace we have in this case, is that the terdnozzles are already on trial for stooooopidity. I don’t doubt that we have lots of darned professional “hit squads” in all of our theaters of activity; the difference is that the pro’s don’t publish wissin pictures of the events. If the terdnozzles on trial are found guilty, they should be punished severely AND the US needs to promote that fact. When the people we are trying to help see that we actually police and punish our own, they may back down.

  41. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Bonecrusher, I have a question, if Abu Ghraib was “W”s fault, who’ll get the blame for this? Obama?!?! Yeh right.

  42. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Bonecrusher, I have a question, if Abu Ghraib was “W”s fault, who’ll get the blame for this? Obama?!?! Yeh right.

  43. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    #21 SD: The LSM will objectively report both sides of the issue right about the same time pigs start flying and hell freezes over.

  44. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #21 SD: The LSM will objectively report both sides of the issue right about the same time pigs start flying and hell freezes over.

  45. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    #20 bone
    What they’re on trial for is way beyond stupidity; they’re on trial for murder. If convicted, they should either be shot or sentenced to life at hard labor (making gravel, moving a 50′ pile of sand from one end of a field to another with buckets held at arm’s length, etc.).

  46. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #20 bone
    What they’re on trial for is way beyond stupidity; they’re on trial for murder. If convicted, they should either be shot or sentenced to life at hard labor (making gravel, moving a 50′ pile of sand from one end of a field to another with buckets held at arm’s length, etc.).

  47. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    OK, I did my homework and listened to the Wait Wait Don’t Tell Me “Bluff the listener” segment. I really don’t see why anyone has their (or their ex-wife’s) panties in a knot over it.

    It would be fine with me if NPR no longer received government support, but the amount of attention that bill has received is way out of proportion to the impact to the budget it might have if it actually passed (which is unlikely). It’s entirely superficial political pandering, and it seems to be working, as usual.

    Maybe Hot Air will attack Click and Clack’s Car Talk next. And why not? It’s NPR, so it must be bad, right?

  48. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    OK, I did my homework and listened to the Wait Wait Don’t Tell Me “Bluff the listener” segment. I really don’t see why anyone has their (or their ex-wife’s) panties in a knot over it.
    It would be fine with me if NPR no longer received government support, but the amount of attention that bill has received is way out of proportion to the impact to the budget it might have if it actually passed (which is unlikely). It’s entirely superficial political pandering, and it seems to be working, as usual.
    Maybe Hot Air will attack Click and Clack’s Car Talk next. And why not? It’s NPR, so it must be bad, right?

  49. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Ever wonder why we are bombing Kadafi, given that he and Big O were such pals and admirers of each other? Seems Kadafi didn’t much want the Muslim Brotherhood and Al-Queda encroaching on the governing of his country and was pretty ruthless in dealing with them as well as anyone else who crossed him. Well, we know that The One cannot allow that to stand since he believes that the Muslim Brotherhood is benign, benevolent, and good for the world; so once again, one of his buddies goes under the bus so that his new friends can take over. And who said he is the Manchurian candidate?

  50. El Gordo Avatar
    El Gordo

    Ever wonder why we are bombing Kadafi, given that he and Big O were such pals and admirers of each other? Seems Kadafi didn’t much want the Muslim Brotherhood and Al-Queda encroaching on the governing of his country and was pretty ruthless in dealing with them as well as anyone else who crossed him. Well, we know that The One cannot allow that to stand since he believes that the Muslim Brotherhood is benign, benevolent, and good for the world; so once again, one of his buddies goes under the bus so that his new friends can take over. And who said he is the Manchurian candidate?

  51. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Pyro & Bones

    I don’t know what is the explanation for Michelle’s often dreadful appearance. The media fainting at her feet, no matter what, are just LTN ™ suck-ups.

    MO is attractive when her hair is not plastered down on her skull, and she is wearing clothes that aren’t too gaudy and fit her shape. Pyro’s link in #13 about all her helpers doesn’t explain why the results are so poor. Her hair is done by a black guy (gay of course) who seemed quite proud of her “tuck” where it looks like most of her hair has been cut off.

  52. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Pyro & Bones
    I don’t know what is the explanation for Michelle’s often dreadful appearance. The media fainting at her feet, no matter what, are just LTN ™ suck-ups.
    MO is attractive when her hair is not plastered down on her skull, and she is wearing clothes that aren’t too gaudy and fit her shape. Pyro’s link in #13 about all her helpers doesn’t explain why the results are so poor. Her hair is done by a black guy (gay of course) who seemed quite proud of her “tuck” where it looks like most of her hair has been cut off.

  53. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Yeah sure, and I have some nice dry swampland in Florida for you.

    http://www.ktrh.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=121300&article=8318462

    sheesh

  54. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Yeah sure, and I have some nice dry swampland in Florida for you.
    http://www.ktrh.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=121300&article=8318462
    sheesh

  55. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    24 Bob42: I don’t know if you are familiar with what is going on with Malkin’s family right now. Her cousin disappeared from Seatle a week ago and has not been heard from since. There has been a massive effort by the family to find her or get any information on her where abouts with no success. The family must be going through h*ll and this skit is absolutely tastless and cruel. I can see no justification in ridiculing a family, not just Michele, when they are going through this type of ordeal.

    Does that explain what the big deal is?

  56. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    24 Bob42: I don’t know if you are familiar with what is going on with Malkin’s family right now. Her cousin disappeared from Seatle a week ago and has not been heard from since. There has been a massive effort by the family to find her or get any information on her where abouts with no success. The family must be going through h*ll and this skit is absolutely tastless and cruel. I can see no justification in ridiculing a family, not just Michele, when they are going through this type of ordeal.
    Does that explain what the big deal is?

  57. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    It would be fine with me if NPR no longer received government support

    That’s about as tepid an endorsement as I’ve ever seen. A (supposed) Libertarian with no fire in the belly is a sad sight. You’re a libertine, not a libertarian.

  58. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    It would be fine with me if NPR no longer received government support

    That’s about as tepid an endorsement as I’ve ever seen. A (supposed) Libertarian with no fire in the belly is a sad sight. You’re a libertine, not a libertarian.

  59. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Yet another oped ripping Paulie K a new one:

    In a perverse way the left has performed a kind of miracle. How does Krugman get to the Times building in Manhattan every morning? Does he have a seeing-eye dog? If you see Paul bumping into brick walls on his way to work, be nice and walk him to the door. Help the handicapped.

    It’s the Progressive thing to do, I guess. Progressives are admired, not for their knowledge, competence or wisdom, but for how much reality they can shut out without actually bumping into glass doors or slipping on old banana skins.

  60. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    Yet another oped ripping Paulie K a new one:

    In a perverse way the left has performed a kind of miracle. How does Krugman get to the Times building in Manhattan every morning? Does he have a seeing-eye dog? If you see Paul bumping into brick walls on his way to work, be nice and walk him to the door. Help the handicapped.
    It’s the Progressive thing to do, I guess. Progressives are admired, not for their knowledge, competence or wisdom, but for how much reality they can shut out without actually bumping into glass doors or slipping on old banana skins.

  61. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    #23 Pyro: Just because some dirt-bags in Afghanistan claim that the decedents were civilians doesn’t make it so. I would bet that there are quite a few “civilians” who routinely shoot at and kill US Servicemen. Those soldiers in question are stooooopid because they collected their own evidence against themselves. This does not make them guilty of murder, nor does it exonerate them – it does make it real easy to convict them should a witch hunt ensue. Like I said stoooooopid for them to collect the evidence against themselves. They could have been on a specific mission to root out the tallywackerban collaborators, and as a collaborator they would, by definition, be civilian – but no less an enemy and wissin sure not innocent.
    And just so that I don’t get Sarge all torqued off, let me state categorically that I do not know all the facts of the case(s) and neither does anyone else except the actors. My purpose was to put forth other reasonable scenarios. The guys being tried are likely to be the murdering scum they are accused to be, it is highly unlikely that we will ever know the truth.

  62. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #23 Pyro: Just because some dirt-bags in Afghanistan claim that the decedents were civilians doesn’t make it so. I would bet that there are quite a few “civilians” who routinely shoot at and kill US Servicemen. Those soldiers in question are stooooopid because they collected their own evidence against themselves. This does not make them guilty of murder, nor does it exonerate them – it does make it real easy to convict them should a witch hunt ensue. Like I said stoooooopid for them to collect the evidence against themselves. They could have been on a specific mission to root out the tallywackerban collaborators, and as a collaborator they would, by definition, be civilian – but no less an enemy and wissin sure not innocent.
    And just so that I don’t get Sarge all torqued off, let me state categorically that I do not know all the facts of the case(s) and neither does anyone else except the actors. My purpose was to put forth other reasonable scenarios. The guys being tried are likely to be the murdering scum they are accused to be, it is highly unlikely that we will ever know the truth.

  63. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I want to know what the ‘begin game’ is. Whose side are we on? Can we tell who our “friends” are? Pretty much everyone outside of a relatively small Libyan Army contingent is wearing civilian clothes. How can they tell each other apart?

    Here’s the real strangeness:

    The Libyan rebels, from the beginning, displayed an amount of military sophistication that was not evident in any of the other “democratic uprisings” we’ve seen thus far this year. They were well armed and able to make complex attacks that combined indirect fire support with platoon and company sized infantry actions, and then mount a credible defgense of the positions taken—-until air support was introduced on the opposing side. In short, they seem trained and equipped almost exactly as the fighters we found ourselves up against in Iraq, and currently in Afghanistan. They also seem to have some level of logistical support (I’ve read where they may be getting arms from the Egyptian army, which should scare the bejabbers out of everybody), and fairly decent Command and Control as the towns and desert infrastructure they initially occupied did make a great deal of strategic sense, and is largely the reason Momo didn’t roll over them like a ball of dough right away. This has looked like a military operation almost from the very beginning. There should be no doubt in anybody’s mind that Momo had made a cozy home for training terrorists he could export (and without any Religious reason for doing so), and that these folks turned on him when the opportunity arose.

    And, its entirely possible that this may be the reason behind waiting a couple of weeks before stepping in. Yes, as crazy as it may seem, I’m going to say there is a possibility that Barry (or probably Britian and France) got it right.

    By waiting a couple of weeks, Momo has attritted the rebel forces to a point to where they won’t be able to take over the country—-or export any trained fighters to AfPak. Now comes the time for NATO to attrit Momo to the point where he can’t win either.

    The down side is that what will result is a long civil war, and Oil For Food porogram that will make Momo (and a few Russians) rich, and the price of oil remaining higher than it otherwise would be (which is probably why Barry would go along with it). Thousands will die in the fighting and in the disease and starvation, arms dealers will buy bigger yachts, and eventually ground action will be required to make sure the right guys take over in the end.

    Of course, this is entirely conjecture, but it makes more sense than a bunch of college students who couldn’t find work suddenly being able to seize and defend strategic and tactically important towns using modern weapons and tactics.

  64. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I want to know what the ‘begin game’ is. Whose side are we on? Can we tell who our “friends” are? Pretty much everyone outside of a relatively small Libyan Army contingent is wearing civilian clothes. How can they tell each other apart?

    Here’s the real strangeness:
    The Libyan rebels, from the beginning, displayed an amount of military sophistication that was not evident in any of the other “democratic uprisings” we’ve seen thus far this year. They were well armed and able to make complex attacks that combined indirect fire support with platoon and company sized infantry actions, and then mount a credible defgense of the positions taken—-until air support was introduced on the opposing side. In short, they seem trained and equipped almost exactly as the fighters we found ourselves up against in Iraq, and currently in Afghanistan. They also seem to have some level of logistical support (I’ve read where they may be getting arms from the Egyptian army, which should scare the bejabbers out of everybody), and fairly decent Command and Control as the towns and desert infrastructure they initially occupied did make a great deal of strategic sense, and is largely the reason Momo didn’t roll over them like a ball of dough right away. This has looked like a military operation almost from the very beginning. There should be no doubt in anybody’s mind that Momo had made a cozy home for training terrorists he could export (and without any Religious reason for doing so), and that these folks turned on him when the opportunity arose.
    And, its entirely possible that this may be the reason behind waiting a couple of weeks before stepping in. Yes, as crazy as it may seem, I’m going to say there is a possibility that Barry (or probably Britian and France) got it right.
    By waiting a couple of weeks, Momo has attritted the rebel forces to a point to where they won’t be able to take over the country—-or export any trained fighters to AfPak. Now comes the time for NATO to attrit Momo to the point where he can’t win either.
    The down side is that what will result is a long civil war, and Oil For Food porogram that will make Momo (and a few Russians) rich, and the price of oil remaining higher than it otherwise would be (which is probably why Barry would go along with it). Thousands will die in the fighting and in the disease and starvation, arms dealers will buy bigger yachts, and eventually ground action will be required to make sure the right guys take over in the end.
    Of course, this is entirely conjecture, but it makes more sense than a bunch of college students who couldn’t find work suddenly being able to seize and defend strategic and tactically important towns using modern weapons and tactics.

  65. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #28 No, I had not heard of the missing person until today. I suspect that the writers for the WWDTM program weren’t either. I certainly hope that the Malkin’s, along with every other family in a similar situation, finds their missing loved one soon.

    #29 Compare the annual funding of NPR to the DEA, BATF, and ONDCP. It’s a drop in the budget bucket, yet duplicitous, opportunistic, professional politicians and pundits are making a mountain out of the NPR molehill, while staying purposefully silent on much larger, demonstrably wasteful, ineffective, and counterproductive spending.

    Both parties are rich in numbers of duplicitous pricks that speak out of both sides of their mouths when they see benefit in doing so. As I said above, this is yet another example of entirely superficial political pandering, and it seems to be working, as usual.

    If NPR funding was such a “problem” why didn’t any of the so called “fiscal conservatives” push to end it when they had a majority in both houses and a pubbie in the oval office?

    Perhaps because there was no political advantage to be had at that time?

  66. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    #28 No, I had not heard of the missing person until today. I suspect that the writers for the WWDTM program weren’t either. I certainly hope that the Malkin’s, along with every other family in a similar situation, finds their missing loved one soon.
    #29 Compare the annual funding of NPR to the DEA, BATF, and ONDCP. It’s a drop in the budget bucket, yet duplicitous, opportunistic, professional politicians and pundits are making a mountain out of the NPR molehill, while staying purposefully silent on much larger, demonstrably wasteful, ineffective, and counterproductive spending.
    Both parties are rich in numbers of duplicitous pricks that speak out of both sides of their mouths when they see benefit in doing so. As I said above, this is yet another example of entirely superficial political pandering, and it seems to be working, as usual.
    If NPR funding was such a “problem” why didn’t any of the so called “fiscal conservatives” push to end it when they had a majority in both houses and a pubbie in the oval office?
    Perhaps because there was no political advantage to be had at that time?

  67. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    You gotta admire this effort.

    Wow. I can’t even imagine.

  68. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    You gotta admire this effort.
    Wow. I can’t even imagine.

  69. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    Compare the annual funding of NPR to the DEA, BATF, and ONDCP.

    And here I thought it was about the principles of the thing.

  70. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Compare the annual funding of NPR to the DEA, BATF, and ONDCP.

    And here I thought it was about the principles of the thing.

  71. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Something I hadn’t thought of:
    http://bigpeace.com/jbradley/2011/03/21/terror-babies-a-growing-national-security-threat/

  72. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Something I hadn’t thought of:
    http://bigpeace.com/jbradley/2011/03/21/terror-babies-a-growing-national-security-threat/

  73. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    And just so that I don’t get Sarge all torqued off, let me state categorically that I do not know all the facts of the case(s) and neither does anyone else except the actors. My purpose was to put forth other reasonable scenarios. The guys being tried are likely to be the murdering scum they are accused to be, it is highly unlikely that we will ever know the truth.

    There’s plenty of sources on the web about this. Its not a new case. There is more than ample evidence that these oxygen theives faked attacks so that they could kill people. They endangered the safety of thier fellow soldiers by providing false intelligence of “enemy” actions, killed innocent civilians, and endangered the entire mission. They are lower than whale schizzle and deserved condemnation, scorn, and disgust heaped upon them. I regard the stuff between my toes as being more deserving of respect, excuses, or clemency than they are.

    Whether you like it or not, the best way to keep our boys alive over there is to convince that local population that Americans do not hate them or their religion. In the words of Ilario Pentano, we need to show them that they have no better friend, and no worse an enemy than the United States of America—–that you don’t have to do anything special to be our friend, and we won’t make you an enemy without good reason.

    These guys are guilty of causing the deaths of American soldiers as surely as if they had pulled the trigger themselves. They’ve made the environment our soldiers operate in more dangerous, more deadly, and made it so for a longer time. years og good work proving that we are as decent a people as we like to think we are have gone down the drain.

  74. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    And just so that I don’t get Sarge all torqued off, let me state categorically that I do not know all the facts of the case(s) and neither does anyone else except the actors. My purpose was to put forth other reasonable scenarios. The guys being tried are likely to be the murdering scum they are accused to be, it is highly unlikely that we will ever know the truth.

    There’s plenty of sources on the web about this. Its not a new case. There is more than ample evidence that these oxygen theives faked attacks so that they could kill people. They endangered the safety of thier fellow soldiers by providing false intelligence of “enemy” actions, killed innocent civilians, and endangered the entire mission. They are lower than whale schizzle and deserved condemnation, scorn, and disgust heaped upon them. I regard the stuff between my toes as being more deserving of respect, excuses, or clemency than they are.
    Whether you like it or not, the best way to keep our boys alive over there is to convince that local population that Americans do not hate them or their religion. In the words of Ilario Pentano, we need to show them that they have no better friend, and no worse an enemy than the United States of America—–that you don’t have to do anything special to be our friend, and we won’t make you an enemy without good reason.
    These guys are guilty of causing the deaths of American soldiers as surely as if they had pulled the trigger themselves. They’ve made the environment our soldiers operate in more dangerous, more deadly, and made it so for a longer time. years og good work proving that we are as decent a people as we like to think we are have gone down the drain.

  75. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    And here I thought it was about the principles of the thing.

    Principles shminciples. Bobo wants a buzz!

  76. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    And here I thought it was about the principles of the thing.

    Principles shminciples. Bobo wants a buzz!

  77. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Tepid, yet stale.

  78. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Tepid, yet stale.

  79. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    These guys are guilty of causing the deaths of American soldiers as surely as if they had pulled the trigger themselves. They’ve made the environment our soldiers operate in more dangerous, more deadly, and made it so for a longer time. years og good work proving that we are as decent a people as we like to think we are have gone down the drain.

    The trial should be conducted there, so as to better demonstrate to the local Afghan population that we are truly on the side of law and order. They should also serve their sentences there.

  80. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    These guys are guilty of causing the deaths of American soldiers as surely as if they had pulled the trigger themselves. They’ve made the environment our soldiers operate in more dangerous, more deadly, and made it so for a longer time. years og good work proving that we are as decent a people as we like to think we are have gone down the drain.

    The trial should be conducted there, so as to better demonstrate to the local Afghan population that we are truly on the side of law and order. They should also serve their sentences there.

  81. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Unconfirmed reports Quadafi has lost another son.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1368410/Libya-crisis-Gaddafi-uses-civilians-human-shields-prevent-military-targets.html

  82. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Unconfirmed reports Quadafi has lost another son.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1368410/Libya-crisis-Gaddafi-uses-civilians-human-shields-prevent-military-targets.html

  83. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    The trial should be conducted there, so as to better demonstrate to the local Afghan population that we are truly on the side of law and order. They should also serve their sentences there.

    Agreed.

    Some folks in this country can’t get past the 6 O’clock news without coming away with the impression that all Muslims are evil, how hard do you think it is for our soldiers to convince Muslims that Americans don’t hate them when they have to kill some of them?

    It becomes worse when the bad guys can show them true incidents that innocents were killed with no reason.

    Being able to show them the words of a couple hundred thousand Americans condemning their religion doesn’t help either.

  84. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    The trial should be conducted there, so as to better demonstrate to the local Afghan population that we are truly on the side of law and order. They should also serve their sentences there.

    Agreed.
    Some folks in this country can’t get past the 6 O’clock news without coming away with the impression that all Muslims are evil, how hard do you think it is for our soldiers to convince Muslims that Americans don’t hate them when they have to kill some of them?
    It becomes worse when the bad guys can show them true incidents that innocents were killed with no reason.
    Being able to show them the words of a couple hundred thousand Americans condemning their religion doesn’t help either.

  85. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    Caption contest?

  86. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Caption contest?

  87. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    I thought the job description said, “Bull Freighter!”

  88. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    I thought the job description said, “Bull Freighter!”

  89. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    Putting the dangers from Fukushima Daiichi into context.

  90. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Putting the dangers from Fukushima Daiichi into context.

  91. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #45 Excellent information.

  92. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #45 Excellent information.

  93. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #43 I thought dwarf bowling had been outlawed.

  94. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #43 I thought dwarf bowling had been outlawed.

  95. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    #43
    *mismatch
    *What the wiss was I thinking and what the wiss was I drinking last night to make me think that?
    *double dog dare my _ss! next time I’m just gonna say ‘wiss you”, the answer is NO

  96. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #43
    *mismatch
    *What the wiss was I thinking and what the wiss was I drinking last night to make me think that?
    *double dog dare my _ss! next time I’m just gonna say ‘wiss you”, the answer is NO

  97. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #38 Hamous, this is lame, as usual.

    Principles shminciples. Bobo wants a buzz!

    I can get a buzz anytime I want one, from any substance I choose, and the $50 BILLION per year we continue to waste on the social conservative’s “feel good” laws that stop nobody from doing so, creates a lucrative tax free black market for thugs, and promotes violence is a waste of time and money.

    But go ahead, continue making fools of yourselves by falling for the political ploy of attacking NPR. I’m sure that with the usual heaping helping overdose of purely politically motivated cognitive dissonance, you can convince yourself that it’s rational.

  98. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    #38 Hamous, this is lame, as usual.

    Principles shminciples. Bobo wants a buzz!

    I can get a buzz anytime I want one, from any substance I choose, and the $50 BILLION per year we continue to waste on the social conservative’s “feel good” laws that stop nobody from doing so, creates a lucrative tax free black market for thugs, and promotes violence is a waste of time and money.
    But go ahead, continue making fools of yourselves by falling for the political ploy of attacking NPR. I’m sure that with the usual heaping helping overdose of purely politically motivated cognitive dissonance, you can convince yourself that it’s rational.

  99. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    Those Righthaven ba$tards lose another one.

  100. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Those Righthaven ba$tards lose another one.

  101. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    #40, 42:agreed.

    The trial should be conducted there, so as to better demonstrate to the local Afghan population that we are truly on the side of law and order. They should also serve their sentences there.

    IF they are found guilty of murder and fraud to cover the murder(s), they need to face the firing squad or hanging over there, on TV. I believe that firing squad or hanging (defendant’s choice) are the methods of execution for the military (Sarge, please correct if I am in error on this point). If we want to be serious about genuine building of trust, this would be a good way to do it.
    When the truth is finally derived, as best it can be, in the court room – then we discuss the next step.

  102. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #40, 42:agreed.

    The trial should be conducted there, so as to better demonstrate to the local Afghan population that we are truly on the side of law and order. They should also serve their sentences there.

    IF they are found guilty of murder and fraud to cover the murder(s), they need to face the firing squad or hanging over there, on TV. I believe that firing squad or hanging (defendant’s choice) are the methods of execution for the military (Sarge, please correct if I am in error on this point). If we want to be serious about genuine building of trust, this would be a good way to do it.
    When the truth is finally derived, as best it can be, in the court room – then we discuss the next step.

  103. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    #50 Pyro: From the comments section of the story you linkied to:

    As I understand it, a take down notice is only required if the site has registered for a safe harbor with the copyright office and is in compliance with display requirements.

    Has the Head Hamster Himself (HHH) registered with the copyright office for safe harbor? If not, why not and when the wiss is it going to get done? I would hate to see HHH “hassled by the man”.

  104. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #50 Pyro: From the comments section of the story you linkied to:

    As I understand it, a take down notice is only required if the site has registered for a safe harbor with the copyright office and is in compliance with display requirements.

    Has the Head Hamster Himself (HHH) registered with the copyright office for safe harbor? If not, why not and when the wiss is it going to get done? I would hate to see HHH “hassled by the man”.

  105. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    So, I read this that you think we should have government involvement with NPR and ridicule those that don’t

    But go ahead, continue making fools of yourselves by falling for the political ploy of attacking NPR.

    Because a lot of people like it. But you don’t support and ridicule people because a lot of them want to support government involvement in fighting illegal drug use. Am I interpreting this correctly?

  106. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    So, I read this that you think we should have government involvement with NPR and ridicule those that don’t

    But go ahead, continue making fools of yourselves by falling for the political ploy of attacking NPR.

    Because a lot of people like it. But you don’t support and ridicule people because a lot of them want to support government involvement in fighting illegal drug use. Am I interpreting this correctly?

  107. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Am I interpreting this correctly?

    If you can interpret Bobo’s jellyheaded blather correctly you win a free lifetime subscription to hamous.org. Oh wait, you already have that.

    But basically it all comes down to this – your causes are meaningless and you have no logical basis to support them unless you:

    a) support and end to the WoD
    b) support homosexual marriage
    c) forgo A Christian life

    If you don’t, just shut up and go sit in the corner, you authoritarian bastige!

    Bobo is a Cultural Marxist, plain and simple, no matter how adamant he proclaims to be a libertarian.

  108. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    Am I interpreting this correctly?

    If you can interpret Bobo’s jellyheaded blather correctly you win a free lifetime subscription to hamous.org. Oh wait, you already have that.
    But basically it all comes down to this – your causes are meaningless and you have no logical basis to support them unless you:
    a) support and end to the WoD
    b) support homosexual marriage
    c) forgo A Christian life
    If you don’t, just shut up and go sit in the corner, you authoritarian bastige!
    Bobo is a Cultural Marxist, plain and simple, no matter how adamant he proclaims to be a libertarian.

  109. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I believe that firing squad or hanging (defendant’s choice) are the methods of execution for the military (Sarge, please correct if I am in error on this point).

    Firing squads, no. The last execution by firing squad done by the US Military was PVT Eddie Slovik during the Battle of the Bulge in 1944. Neither is hanging used. The last military execution done by hanging was of a rapist/murderer in 1961.

    They have, in essence, committed a Federal Crime. Federal Law calls for using the method of execution used by the State in which the crime was committed, or as directed by the Judge if the state does not allow capital punishment. Since 1976, all Federal executions have been done by lethal injection.

  110. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I believe that firing squad or hanging (defendant’s choice) are the methods of execution for the military (Sarge, please correct if I am in error on this point).

    Firing squads, no. The last execution by firing squad done by the US Military was PVT Eddie Slovik during the Battle of the Bulge in 1944. Neither is hanging used. The last military execution done by hanging was of a rapist/murderer in 1961.
    They have, in essence, committed a Federal Crime. Federal Law calls for using the method of execution used by the State in which the crime was committed, or as directed by the Judge if the state does not allow capital punishment. Since 1976, all Federal executions have been done by lethal injection.

  111. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    Bob420: Defunding NPR is a moral and just thing to do, as is the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, National Endowment for the Arts, National Endowment for the Humanities, etc. When/if the USA is ever flush enough to afford such excesses, then it should be funded by tax deductible private donations period. To use my tax dollars to promote a viewpoint with which I strongly disagree VIOLATES MY FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS! I am not saying that I want such viewpoints banned, I just don’t want to be extorted to pay for them. The amount of budgetary impact is IRRELEVANT, this is a case of right and wrong. We are broke and can not afford any such luxuries, particularly when the material is so offensive to so many people.

  112. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Bob420: Defunding NPR is a moral and just thing to do, as is the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, National Endowment for the Arts, National Endowment for the Humanities, etc. When/if the USA is ever flush enough to afford such excesses, then it should be funded by tax deductible private donations period. To use my tax dollars to promote a viewpoint with which I strongly disagree VIOLATES MY FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS! I am not saying that I want such viewpoints banned, I just don’t want to be extorted to pay for them. The amount of budgetary impact is IRRELEVANT, this is a case of right and wrong. We are broke and can not afford any such luxuries, particularly when the material is so offensive to so many people.

  113. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    #55 Sarge:

    Since 1976, all Federal executions have been done by lethal injection.

    Since they may not have all the right stuff in Afcrappystan for the execution, could we just inject about a quart of gasoline instead?

  114. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #55 Sarge:

    Since 1976, all Federal executions have been done by lethal injection.

    Since they may not have all the right stuff in Afcrappystan for the execution, could we just inject about a quart of gasoline instead?

  115. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    All those Arab leaders that were clamoring for a no-fly zone over Libya? Seems they’re having misgivings. Especially now that they figured out that creating a no-fly zone entails air-defense suppression, destroying aircraft that may not actually be flying, and denying logistical support.

    Or maybe they knew all that all along and were just taking the French, British, and Obama for a ride. And maybe these Arab leaders are now making like “We had no idea! Honest!” to their populations so they can bag on us again safely.

  116. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    All those Arab leaders that were clamoring for a no-fly zone over Libya? Seems they’re having misgivings. Especially now that they figured out that creating a no-fly zone entails air-defense suppression, destroying aircraft that may not actually be flying, and denying logistical support.
    Or maybe they knew all that all along and were just taking the French, British, and Obama for a ride. And maybe these Arab leaders are now making like “We had no idea! Honest!” to their populations so they can bag on us again safely.

  117. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #56 – Don’t you get it, you ignant hayseed??? You can’t whine about NPR funding because you oppose homosexual marriage and support the WoD!!! Now git back in yer corner!

  118. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    #56 – Don’t you get it, you ignant hayseed??? You can’t whine about NPR funding because you oppose homosexual marriage and support the WoD!!! Now git back in yer corner!

  119. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    An off topic, if that’s possible in an open comments section.

    Just looking at drudge and he has a picture of Obomavacation in Rio with the Christ statue lit behind him. Why do so many pictures of the Obamavaction have him a halo effect or some other quasi religious implication? Is this by design or coincidence?

  120. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    An off topic, if that’s possible in an open comments section.
    Just looking at drudge and he has a picture of Obomavacation in Rio with the Christ statue lit behind him. Why do so many pictures of the Obamavaction have him a halo effect or some other quasi religious implication? Is this by design or coincidence?

  121. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    #59 Hamous: And along that same line of non-thinking, blacks can’t be racists, women can’t be sexists, and liberals can never be wrong; does that just about cover it?

  122. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #59 Hamous: And along that same line of non-thinking, blacks can’t be racists, women can’t be sexists, and liberals can never be wrong; does that just about cover it?

  123. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Photo caption:

    Exit, by the double time, stage left.

  124. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Photo caption:
    Exit, by the double time, stage left.

  125. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    #60 TEx: See my #11 above.

  126. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #60 TEx: See my #11 above.

  127. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    that just about cover it?

    Nope, conservatives can never be correct, Palin is stupid, Bush lied, Haliburton …

  128. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    that just about cover it?

    Nope, conservatives can never be correct, Palin is stupid, Bush lied, Haliburton …

  129. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #54/56, Uh yuh, next time you hear that NPR is spending tons of taxpayer dollars deploying paramilitary swat teams, knocking down non-violent “criminal’s” doors, shooting their dogs, and stealing their unrelated assets please do let me know!

    Until then, you’re making unsubstantiated and irrational arguments based on nothing more than opportunistic political posturing postulated by professional politicians, propagandists, and pundits that know you’ll fall for it every time.

    Do the math. Tell me exactly how much is spent on NPR vs. the professional politicians precious war on a stupid plant?

    Make your case. Provide some facts instead of arguments from ignorance for a change. I’m patient.

  130. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    #54/56, Uh yuh, next time you hear that NPR is spending tons of taxpayer dollars deploying paramilitary swat teams, knocking down non-violent “criminal’s” doors, shooting their dogs, and stealing their unrelated assets please do let me know!
    Until then, you’re making unsubstantiated and irrational arguments based on nothing more than opportunistic political posturing postulated by professional politicians, propagandists, and pundits that know you’ll fall for it every time.
    Do the math. Tell me exactly how much is spent on NPR vs. the professional politicians precious war on a stupid plant?
    Make your case. Provide some facts instead of arguments from ignorance for a change. I’m patient.

  131. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #64 You forgot the new bogeymen: The Kochs!!!

  132. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    #64 You forgot the new bogeymen: The Kochs!!!

  133. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Since they may not have all the right stuff in Afcrappystan for the execution, could we just inject about a quart of gasoline instead?

    What I’m abnout to say is exactly what I say about the tactics we should use agains extremist Muslims, and for exactly the same reason:

    We want to do in a manner that does not make us become like them.

    Lethal injection, if capital punishment is warranted, is the mthod i would prefer.

  134. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Since they may not have all the right stuff in Afcrappystan for the execution, could we just inject about a quart of gasoline instead?

    What I’m abnout to say is exactly what I say about the tactics we should use agains extremist Muslims, and for exactly the same reason:
    We want to do in a manner that does not make us become like them.
    Lethal injection, if capital punishment is warranted, is the mthod i would prefer.

  135. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    #65 Bob: What is it about this:

    To use my tax dollars to promote a viewpoint with which I strongly disagree VIOLATES MY FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS! I am not saying that I want such viewpoints banned, I just don’t want to be extorted to pay for them. The amount of budgetary impact is IRRELEVANT, this is a case of right and wrong

    that you do not understand?? We are broke. We must cut out all unnecessary spending. The ones mentioned in my #56 above is a great place to start as those programs really have no constitutional authority what so ever!

  136. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #65 Bob: What is it about this:

    To use my tax dollars to promote a viewpoint with which I strongly disagree VIOLATES MY FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS! I am not saying that I want such viewpoints banned, I just don’t want to be extorted to pay for them. The amount of budgetary impact is IRRELEVANT, this is a case of right and wrong

    that you do not understand?? We are broke. We must cut out all unnecessary spending. The ones mentioned in my #56 above is a great place to start as those programs really have no constitutional authority what so ever!

  137. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Can someone please explain to me how NPR funding became inextricably tied to the WoD?

  138. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    Can someone please explain to me how NPR funding became inextricably tied to the WoD?

  139. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Slap! You’ve just got to love it when this happens.

    The Wisconsin Center for Investigative Journalism analyzed a computer-generated random sample of 1,910 emails from the more than 50,000 that flooded Walker’s office in the week after he unveiled his plan on Feb. 11. Nearly all were related to the bill.

    The emails were released Friday as the result of an open records lawsuit brought in Dane County Circuit Court by Isthmus newspaper and the Wisconsin Associated Press. A settlement reached earlier in the week required the governor to produce the emails and pay the plaintiffs’ legal fees, which totaled just over $7,000.

    At the request of Isthmus, the Center analyzed the emails. A team of reporters logged each of the emails in the sample as for or against the bill, unclear or unrelated. They also noted the location of the sender when possible.
    Of the emails related to the bill, 62 percent supported it, while 32 percent opposed it. The margin of error for the Center’s sample size is plus or minus 2.3 percentage points.

    http://bigjournalism.com/jhoft/2011/03/21/liberal-media-stunned-analysis-shows-emails-to-governor-walker-favored-his-bill/#more-178000

  140. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Slap! You’ve just got to love it when this happens.

    The Wisconsin Center for Investigative Journalism analyzed a computer-generated random sample of 1,910 emails from the more than 50,000 that flooded Walker’s office in the week after he unveiled his plan on Feb. 11. Nearly all were related to the bill.
    The emails were released Friday as the result of an open records lawsuit brought in Dane County Circuit Court by Isthmus newspaper and the Wisconsin Associated Press. A settlement reached earlier in the week required the governor to produce the emails and pay the plaintiffs’ legal fees, which totaled just over $7,000.
    At the request of Isthmus, the Center analyzed the emails. A team of reporters logged each of the emails in the sample as for or against the bill, unclear or unrelated. They also noted the location of the sender when possible.
    Of the emails related to the bill, 62 percent supported it, while 32 percent opposed it. The margin of error for the Center’s sample size is plus or minus 2.3 percentage points.

    http://bigjournalism.com/jhoft/2011/03/21/liberal-media-stunned-analysis-shows-emails-to-governor-walker-favored-his-bill/#more-178000

  141. SC Avatar
    SC

    Can someone please explain to me how NPR funding became inextricably tied to the WoD?

    Correct. Apples/Oranges.

  142. SC Avatar
    SC

    Can someone please explain to me how NPR funding became inextricably tied to the WoD?

    Correct. Apples/Oranges.

  143. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    This is what I asked in my 53

    So, I read this that you think we should have government involvement with NPR and ridicule those that don’t

    But go ahead, continue making fools of yourselves by falling for the political ploy of attacking NPR.

    Because a lot of people like it. But you don’t support and ridicule people because a lot of them want to support government involvement in fighting illegal drug use. Am I interpreting this correctly?

    I’ll ask it this way. Government $’s for something you support – NPR, is good. government $’s for something you don’t support – WoD, is bad. Is that what you believe?

    I am not discussing the rightness or wrongness of the position. I just want a clarification of your position.

  144. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    This is what I asked in my 53

    So, I read this that you think we should have government involvement with NPR and ridicule those that don’t
    But go ahead, continue making fools of yourselves by falling for the political ploy of attacking NPR.
    Because a lot of people like it. But you don’t support and ridicule people because a lot of them want to support government involvement in fighting illegal drug use. Am I interpreting this correctly?

    I’ll ask it this way. Government $’s for something you support – NPR, is good. government $’s for something you don’t support – WoD, is bad. Is that what you believe?
    I am not discussing the rightness or wrongness of the position. I just want a clarification of your position.

  145. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Government $’s for something you support – NPR, is good. government $’s for something you don’t support – WoD, is bad. Is that what you believe?

    Almost. You can’t be against goverment $s for anything unless you’re against government $s for Bobo’s pet peeves.

  146. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    Government $’s for something you support – NPR, is good. government $’s for something you don’t support – WoD, is bad. Is that what you believe?

    Almost. You can’t be against goverment $s for anything unless you’re against government $s for Bobo’s pet peeves.

  147. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #69 Strawmanous, I never suggested an “inextricable” relationship. Seriously dude, don’t quit your day job for a career as a mind reader, cuz you really suck at it.

    I merely pointed out that a large number of well trained social conservative sheep fell hook, line, and sinker, for the politically convenient criticism launched at NPR, while at the same time, the same selfish politicians that cast that bait remain willfully ignorant of the exponentially larger fiscal waste and ineffectiveness of the war on a frickin plant.

    BAAAAHHHH!

  148. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    #69 Strawmanous, I never suggested an “inextricable” relationship. Seriously dude, don’t quit your day job for a career as a mind reader, cuz you really suck at it.
    I merely pointed out that a large number of well trained social conservative sheep fell hook, line, and sinker, for the politically convenient criticism launched at NPR, while at the same time, the same selfish politicians that cast that bait remain willfully ignorant of the exponentially larger fiscal waste and ineffectiveness of the war on a frickin plant.
    BAAAAHHHH!

  149. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    This is your brain. This is your brain on drugs. Any questions?

  150. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    This is your brain. This is your brain on drugs. Any questions?

  151. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #55 If a Federal execution were done in Afcrapistan, presumably it would be done by stoning…

  152. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #55 If a Federal execution were done in Afcrapistan, presumably it would be done by stoning…

  153. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    presumably it would be done by stoning…

    Bob will bring the cheeto’s

    🙂

  154. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    presumably it would be done by stoning…

    Bob will bring the cheeto’s
    🙂

  155. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    I merely pointed out that a large number of well trained social conservative sheep fell hook, line, and sinker, for the politically convenient criticism launched at NPR, while at the same time, the same selfish politicians that cast that bait remain willfully ignorant of the exponentially larger fiscal waste and ineffectiveness of the war on a frickin plant.

    Except that the issue of funding for NPR et al. has been debated for many, many years (prolly about the same duration as the WoD) as a matter of principle. Just because you happen to disagree with the WoD as some sort of crusade doesn’t mean others think the same way.

    Now you, as a self-proclaimed libertarian/minarchist appear to be just fine with continuing funding NPR, CPB, PBS, NEH, etc. just because they don’t meet some arbitrary spending level. Millions here and millions there, pretty soon, you’re talking about real money.

  156. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I merely pointed out that a large number of well trained social conservative sheep fell hook, line, and sinker, for the politically convenient criticism launched at NPR, while at the same time, the same selfish politicians that cast that bait remain willfully ignorant of the exponentially larger fiscal waste and ineffectiveness of the war on a frickin plant.

    Except that the issue of funding for NPR et al. has been debated for many, many years (prolly about the same duration as the WoD) as a matter of principle. Just because you happen to disagree with the WoD as some sort of crusade doesn’t mean others think the same way.
    Now you, as a self-proclaimed libertarian/minarchist appear to be just fine with continuing funding NPR, CPB, PBS, NEH, etc. just because they don’t meet some arbitrary spending level. Millions here and millions there, pretty soon, you’re talking about real money.

  157. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    I like the right-and-wrong view of it. It is WRONG for tax-payer money to be spent on liberal propaganda media.

  158. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    I like the right-and-wrong view of it. It is WRONG for tax-payer money to be spent on liberal propaganda media.

  159. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    Can someone please explain to me how NPR funding became inextricably tied to the WoD?

    You’ve got to be on drugs to be able to tolerate it longer than 43 nanoseconds.

  160. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Can someone please explain to me how NPR funding became inextricably tied to the WoD?

    You’ve got to be on drugs to be able to tolerate it longer than 43 nanoseconds.

  161. SC Avatar
    SC

    Face it NPR can’t survive on its own because it does not have a message that sells to the mainstream. Cut it off and let it wither.

  162. SC Avatar
    SC

    Face it NPR can’t survive on its own because it does not have a message that sells to the mainstream. Cut it off and let it wither.

  163. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    You’ve got to be on drugs to be able to tolerate it longer than 43 nanoseconds.

    Coincidentally, scientific experiments show that 43 nanoseconds appears to be the half-life of a Bobo brain cell.

  164. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    You’ve got to be on drugs to be able to tolerate it longer than 43 nanoseconds.

    Coincidentally, scientific experiments show that 43 nanoseconds appears to be the half-life of a Bobo brain cell.

  165. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    #75 hammie
    Bob’s brain:

  166. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #75 hammie
    Bob’s brain:

  167. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Can someone please explain to me how NPR funding became inextricably tied to the WoD?

    Mebbe a b etter question is:

    What can’t be inexctricably tied to theWoD?

    It seems to come around even when discussing underwater basket weaving.

  168. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Can someone please explain to me how NPR funding became inextricably tied to the WoD?

    Mebbe a b etter question is:
    What can’t be inexctricably tied to theWoD?
    It seems to come around even when discussing underwater basket weaving.

  169. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #83 Pyro
    D’oh!

  170. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #83 Pyro
    D’oh!

  171. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #82/83 Wulp, I have to say that those are the “best” arguments I’ve seen today. And they’re very consistent as well–In terms of irrationality, non-substantiation, and non-logical thinking. 🙂

  172. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    #82/83 Wulp, I have to say that those are the “best” arguments I’ve seen today. And they’re very consistent as well–In terms of irrationality, non-substantiation, and non-logical thinking. 🙂

  173. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    political posturing postulated by professional politicians, propagandists, and pundits

    Lacy lilting ladies losing love lamenting.

  174. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    political posturing postulated by professional politicians, propagandists, and pundits

    Lacy lilting ladies losing love lamenting.

  175. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Strawmanous, I never suggested an “inextricable” relationship.

    Play the tape back for ’em, Joe.

    I can get a buzz anytime I want one, from any substance I choose, and the $50 BILLION per year we continue to waste on the social conservative’s “feel good” laws that stop nobody from doing so, creates a lucrative tax free black market for thugs, and promotes violence is a waste of time and money.

    But go ahead, continue making fools of yourselves by falling for the political ploy of attacking NPR. I’m sure that with the usual heaping helping overdose of purely politically motivated cognitive dissonance, you can convince yourself that it’s rational.

    Compare the annual funding of NPR to the DEA, BATF, and ONDCP. It’s a drop in the budget bucket, yet duplicitous, opportunistic, professional politicians and pundits are making a mountain out of the NPR molehill, while staying purposefully silent on much larger, demonstrably wasteful, ineffective, and counterproductive spending.

    Uh yuh, next time you hear that NPR is spending tons of taxpayer dollars deploying paramilitary swat teams, knocking down non-violent “criminal’s” doors, shooting their dogs, and stealing their unrelated assets please do let me know!

    Do the math. Tell me exactly how much is spent on NPR vs. the professional politicians precious war on a stupid plant?

  176. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    Strawmanous, I never suggested an “inextricable” relationship.

    Play the tape back for ’em, Joe.

    I can get a buzz anytime I want one, from any substance I choose, and the $50 BILLION per year we continue to waste on the social conservative’s “feel good” laws that stop nobody from doing so, creates a lucrative tax free black market for thugs, and promotes violence is a waste of time and money.
    But go ahead, continue making fools of yourselves by falling for the political ploy of attacking NPR. I’m sure that with the usual heaping helping overdose of purely politically motivated cognitive dissonance, you can convince yourself that it’s rational.

    Compare the annual funding of NPR to the DEA, BATF, and ONDCP. It’s a drop in the budget bucket, yet duplicitous, opportunistic, professional politicians and pundits are making a mountain out of the NPR molehill, while staying purposefully silent on much larger, demonstrably wasteful, ineffective, and counterproductive spending.

    Uh yuh, next time you hear that NPR is spending tons of taxpayer dollars deploying paramilitary swat teams, knocking down non-violent “criminal’s” doors, shooting their dogs, and stealing their unrelated assets please do let me know!

    Do the math. Tell me exactly how much is spent on NPR vs. the professional politicians precious war on a stupid plant?

  177. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Do the math. Tell me exactly how much is spent on NPR vs. the professional politicians precious war on a stupid plant?

    Why, I do beleive its at least $64 million.

    I don’t care how much money we spend on other programs, that’s a lot of money and it shouldn’t be spent.

    Now, lets go find 100 programs like that.

    And then, let’s find 100 more.

    I dunno.

    I guess its just the Libertarian in me that makes me say wild and whacky things like that.

  178. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Do the math. Tell me exactly how much is spent on NPR vs. the professional politicians precious war on a stupid plant?

    Why, I do beleive its at least $64 million.
    I don’t care how much money we spend on other programs, that’s a lot of money and it shouldn’t be spent.
    Now, lets go find 100 programs like that.
    And then, let’s find 100 more.
    I dunno.
    I guess its just the Libertarian in me that makes me say wild and whacky things like that.

  179. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Other examples from the Wonderful World of Bobo Logic:

    It’s illogical and duplicitous to work towards a decrease in murder rates because there are so many more burglaries.

  180. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    Other examples from the Wonderful World of Bobo Logic:
    It’s illogical and duplicitous to work towards a decrease in murder rates because there are so many more burglaries.

  181. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    But Bobby.

    I do beleive you’re right that the Establishment Republicans are trying to mollify us Conservatives with a few “gimmes” that they think will satisfy us.

    We’ll take ’em.

    And we’ll still want more.

    And that will pizz them off no freakin end.

    And we will laugh and laugh and laugh about it as we push thier feet closer to the fire.

  182. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    But Bobby.
    I do beleive you’re right that the Establishment Republicans are trying to mollify us Conservatives with a few “gimmes” that they think will satisfy us.
    We’ll take ’em.
    And we’ll still want more.
    And that will pizz them off no freakin end.
    And we will laugh and laugh and laugh about it as we push thier feet closer to the fire.

  183. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    It’s illogical and duplicitous to work towards a decrease in murder rates because there are so many more burglaries.

    I thought it was illogical to work toward a decrease in burglaries because people are always gonna burgle, so why should we try to stop them?

  184. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    It’s illogical and duplicitous to work towards a decrease in murder rates because there are so many more burglaries.

    I thought it was illogical to work toward a decrease in burglaries because people are always gonna burgle, so why should we try to stop them?

  185. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I thought it was illogical to work toward a decrease in burglaries because people are always gonna burgle, so why should we try to stop them?

    No, that actually makes more sense than the ramblings from Boboworld.

  186. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    I thought it was illogical to work toward a decrease in burglaries because people are always gonna burgle, so why should we try to stop them?

    No, that actually makes more sense than the ramblings from Boboworld.

  187. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Apparently, Jamie Gorelick is in the running for FBI director. I used to think there’s no way Obama can be as much of an idiot as he appears to be. Maybe I’m wrong.

  188. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    Apparently, Jamie Gorelick is in the running for FBI director. I used to think there’s no way Obama can be as much of an idiot as he appears to be. Maybe I’m wrong.

  189. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Can you say “victim-less crime?” Sure you can.

    Cognitive dissonance routinely rules the right.

  190. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    Can you say “victim-less crime?” Sure you can.
    Cognitive dissonance routinely rules the right.

  191. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    People who say that folks who go through thier lives getting loaded at every opportunity that presents itself don’t leave victims in thier wake are in deep states of denial.

  192. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    People who say that folks who go through thier lives getting loaded at every opportunity that presents itself don’t leave victims in thier wake are in deep states of denial.

  193. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    Bob:

    Maybe this will answer your question (but you won’t like it):

    Most people don’t want the Government to pay for NPR/PBS, et al. Therefore politicians, being (in many cases reluctantly) responsive to the will of the people are responding by de-funding said programs.

    Most people WANT the Government to continue to fight the plague of illegal drugs and the problems they cause. Therefore politicians (again, in some cases reluctantly) are responding by continuing to fund those programs.

    Politicians will respond. You just have to yell at them loud enough, long enough. The fact that there is absolutely no discussion on either side of the aisle would seem to indicate that few if any people are yelling at them about the WoD.

  194. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    Bob:
    Maybe this will answer your question (but you won’t like it):
    Most people don’t want the Government to pay for NPR/PBS, et al. Therefore politicians, being (in many cases reluctantly) responsive to the will of the people are responding by de-funding said programs.
    Most people WANT the Government to continue to fight the plague of illegal drugs and the problems they cause. Therefore politicians (again, in some cases reluctantly) are responding by continuing to fund those programs.
    Politicians will respond. You just have to yell at them loud enough, long enough. The fact that there is absolutely no discussion on either side of the aisle would seem to indicate that few if any people are yelling at them about the WoD.

  195. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    People who say that folks who go through thier lives getting loaded at every opportunity that presents itself don’t leave victims in thier wake are in deep states of denial.

    Other possibilities that may explain those folks:

    • Sniveling little troll
    • Supreme idiot
  196. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    People who say that folks who go through thier lives getting loaded at every opportunity that presents itself don’t leave victims in thier wake are in deep states of denial.

    Other possibilities that may explain those folks:

    • Sniveling little troll
    • Supreme idiot
  197. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Politicians will respond. You just have to yell at them loud enough, long enough.

    And even if they call you liars, nutcases, use despicable tactics, are ill informed, trouble makers with a bad tone that cheapens the debate, responding to well financed pressure groups with thier own agenda, ignent peasants who just don’t get it, or any of that crap and peer pressure they try to bring to bear to shut you up—–don’t let go, don’t change your tone, your voice, or your decibel level.

    In the end, they will do what you want because they know that you’re convincing other people better than they are, that you’re making more sense than they are, and that you are speaking the voice in the heads of the rest of us. They’ll end up doing and saying what you want because they know they were shining everybody on in the first place and aren’t going to get away with it much longer.

    Once you get the hang of it, they’re pretty easy to figure out. Politicians aren’t like puppies. They don’t respond to positive stimuli. The whack on the nose with the newspaper is the only thing they understand. If you treat them with any kiother way, they will think they’ve got you fooled.

    What’s the difference between Boy Scouts and the Republican Party of Texas?
    .
    .
    .
    .
    Boy Scouts have adult leadership.

  198. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Politicians will respond. You just have to yell at them loud enough, long enough.

    And even if they call you liars, nutcases, use despicable tactics, are ill informed, trouble makers with a bad tone that cheapens the debate, responding to well financed pressure groups with thier own agenda, ignent peasants who just don’t get it, or any of that crap and peer pressure they try to bring to bear to shut you up—–don’t let go, don’t change your tone, your voice, or your decibel level.
    In the end, they will do what you want because they know that you’re convincing other people better than they are, that you’re making more sense than they are, and that you are speaking the voice in the heads of the rest of us. They’ll end up doing and saying what you want because they know they were shining everybody on in the first place and aren’t going to get away with it much longer.
    Once you get the hang of it, they’re pretty easy to figure out. Politicians aren’t like puppies. They don’t respond to positive stimuli. The whack on the nose with the newspaper is the only thing they understand. If you treat them with any kiother way, they will think they’ve got you fooled.
    What’s the difference between Boy Scouts and the Republican Party of Texas?
    .
    .
    .
    .
    Boy Scouts have adult leadership.

  199. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    #98 hammie
    hater

  200. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #98 hammie
    hater

  201. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    HEY BOB: You still have not answered my #68, which I will repeat whilst I defer to your lack of short term memory:

    To use my tax dollars to promote a viewpoint with which I strongly disagree VIOLATES MY FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS! I am not saying that I want such viewpoints banned, I just don’t want to be extorted to pay for them. The amount of budgetary impact is IRRELEVANT, this is a case of right and wrong

    that you do not understand?? We are broke. We must cut out all unnecessary spending. The ones mentioned in my #56 above is a great place to start as those programs really have no constitutional authority what so ever!

  202. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    HEY BOB: You still have not answered my #68, which I will repeat whilst I defer to your lack of short term memory:

    To use my tax dollars to promote a viewpoint with which I strongly disagree VIOLATES MY FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS! I am not saying that I want such viewpoints banned, I just don’t want to be extorted to pay for them. The amount of budgetary impact is IRRELEVANT, this is a case of right and wrong
    that you do not understand?? We are broke. We must cut out all unnecessary spending. The ones mentioned in my #56 above is a great place to start as those programs really have no constitutional authority what so ever!

  203. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #97 You are the recipient of the Most Rational and Reasonable Response award of the day. Don Pardo, please tell FA what he’s won….

    Don?

    Are you there, Don?

    Oh never mind, Don. The entire country spent $65M on NPR last year. The city of New York alone spent at least $75M busting citizens for possessing a stupid plant. I think both expenditures are stupid, and should be stopped.

    Bottom line: Politicians from both herds parties are inclined to tackle “safe” topics, and ones that have little budgetary impact, while their dyed in the wool sheepish supporters resort to calling critics silly names such as “sniveling little troll” and “supreme idiot” simply because they apparently lack the capability to make a rational argument in support of their point.

    Lame.

  204. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    #97 You are the recipient of the Most Rational and Reasonable Response award of the day. Don Pardo, please tell FA what he’s won….
    Don?
    Are you there, Don?
    Oh never mind, Don. The entire country spent $65M on NPR last year. The city of New York alone spent at least $75M busting citizens for possessing a stupid plant. I think both expenditures are stupid, and should be stopped.
    Bottom line: Politicians from both herds parties are inclined to tackle “safe” topics, and ones that have little budgetary impact, while their dyed in the wool sheepish supporters resort to calling critics silly names such as “sniveling little troll” and “supreme idiot” simply because they apparently lack the capability to make a rational argument in support of their point.
    Lame.

  205. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    In fairness, politicians do have a tough job.

    To get elected, they have to convince you that they believe the same things you do.

    After they get elected, they have to convince you that you don’t really believe the things you do, that you really didn’t vote for the things you said you did, and they can fix all that by doing stuff you didn’t want them to do when you elected them.

    For reference see:

    Joe Straus.

    Rainy Day Fund.

    Cut $100 billion from the budget.

    Defund Obamacare.

  206. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    In fairness, politicians do have a tough job.
    To get elected, they have to convince you that they believe the same things you do.
    After they get elected, they have to convince you that you don’t really believe the things you do, that you really didn’t vote for the things you said you did, and they can fix all that by doing stuff you didn’t want them to do when you elected them.
    For reference see:
    Joe Straus.
    Rainy Day Fund.
    Cut $100 billion from the budget.
    Defund Obamacare.

  207. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #101 Bones, perhaps we are in vigorous agreement. Cuting NPR spending will save $65 Million, ending the stupid 40 year long war on a plant will save $50 Billion.

    Is spending $50B a year on a “war” that is lost “necessary spending?” Is it beneficial?

    Does that answer your question?

  208. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    #101 Bones, perhaps we are in vigorous agreement. Cuting NPR spending will save $65 Million, ending the stupid 40 year long war on a plant will save $50 Billion.
    Is spending $50B a year on a “war” that is lost “necessary spending?” Is it beneficial?
    Does that answer your question?

  209. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Hey guys.

    I lost the war on fire ants and crab grass last year.

    That means I can let my lawn turn into a pest infested patch of weeds.

    Thanks Bob!

    I also notice we’ lost the war on burgulary the other day here in Richmond. I gjuess we can save a few million dollars if we concentrate on bank robberies.

    Wait.

    I think we’re losing that one, too.

  210. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Hey guys.
    I lost the war on fire ants and crab grass last year.
    That means I can let my lawn turn into a pest infested patch of weeds.
    Thanks Bob!
    I also notice we’ lost the war on burgulary the other day here in Richmond. I gjuess we can save a few million dollars if we concentrate on bank robberies.
    Wait.
    I think we’re losing that one, too.

  211. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Here’s the deal, Bobo. If you had a rational proposition to begin with maybe you would get a rational argument. You routinely ignore all rational arguments and think that somehow repeating the same crap ad nauseum proves you correct. You’re a pompous and elitist cultural Marxist not interested in any rational discussion without your opponents first agreeing to your libertine principles as a starting point.

    As far as the “silly names”, that has been you’re modus operandi for quite some time now. I’m tired of your name-calling (which happens on a daily basis). I’m also tired of your WoD drone. Tone both of them down or I’ll simply delete your ass, end of discussion. Are we clear?

  212. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    Here’s the deal, Bobo. If you had a rational proposition to begin with maybe you would get a rational argument. You routinely ignore all rational arguments and think that somehow repeating the same crap ad nauseum proves you correct. You’re a pompous and elitist cultural Marxist not interested in any rational discussion without your opponents first agreeing to your libertine principles as a starting point.
    As far as the “silly names”, that has been you’re modus operandi for quite some time now. I’m tired of your name-calling (which happens on a daily basis). I’m also tired of your WoD drone. Tone both of them down or I’ll simply delete your ass, end of discussion. Are we clear?

  213. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    #104 Bobo: HELL NO IT DOES NOT!
    I am real sure that I have NEVER ADVOCATED IN FAVOR OF THE WAR ON A PLANT.
    The question I asked DEALT WITH NPR, Corp for Public Broadcasting (which is not the same as NPR, but it does transfer funds to NPR) NEA, NIH, etc.
    The big argument is why should I have to pay (via extorted taxes) for speech with the fig leaf of “news” that in actuality is nothing more than a paid ad for the D/socialist party, when I vehemently disagree with that speech??? The question does not have a wissin thing to do with the war on a plant. This is a FREE SPEECH ISSUE. The SCOTUS has been very clear that money = speech, therefore by taking my tax dollars and subsidizing speech to which I am opposed robs me of my 1st amendment rights/money.

  214. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #104 Bobo: HELL NO IT DOES NOT!
    I am real sure that I have NEVER ADVOCATED IN FAVOR OF THE WAR ON A PLANT.
    The question I asked DEALT WITH NPR, Corp for Public Broadcasting (which is not the same as NPR, but it does transfer funds to NPR) NEA, NIH, etc.
    The big argument is why should I have to pay (via extorted taxes) for speech with the fig leaf of “news” that in actuality is nothing more than a paid ad for the D/socialist party, when I vehemently disagree with that speech??? The question does not have a wissin thing to do with the war on a plant. This is a FREE SPEECH ISSUE. The SCOTUS has been very clear that money = speech, therefore by taking my tax dollars and subsidizing speech to which I am opposed robs me of my 1st amendment rights/money.

  215. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    Bob,

    You might want to think about something else while you’re in the mood:

    You persist in using words like cognitive dissonance, and stupid to describe those who disagree with you.

    At the same time you support (and apparently practice, at least occasionally) the use of substances whose sole value is causing your brain to not function correctly.

    You should check a mirror sometime……..

  216. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    Bob,
    You might want to think about something else while you’re in the mood:
    You persist in using words like cognitive dissonance, and stupid to describe those who disagree with you.
    At the same time you support (and apparently practice, at least occasionally) the use of substances whose sole value is causing your brain to not function correctly.
    You should check a mirror sometime……..

  217. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #106 We are crystal clear. I respect your authoritah to the degree that it is deserving of respect.

    Tone both of them down or I’ll simply delete your ass, end of discussion. Are we clear?

    Lame.

    My rational proposition has always been, and still remains, that there are better and more effective drug policies than the ones we are wasting billions on today, and that politicians from both herds are too wimpy, immoral, and bought out to admit it.

    Toning it down, if I’m still able to comment later tonight, I’ll have some good news to share with you from Cindy and Tracie. 😉

  218. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    #106 We are crystal clear. I respect your authoritah to the degree that it is deserving of respect.

    Tone both of them down or I’ll simply delete your ass, end of discussion. Are we clear?

    Lame.
    My rational proposition has always been, and still remains, that there are better and more effective drug policies than the ones we are wasting billions on today, and that politicians from both herds are too wimpy, immoral, and bought out to admit it.
    Toning it down, if I’m still able to comment later tonight, I’ll have some good news to share with you from Cindy and Tracie. 😉

  219. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #108 I think the WoD is stupid. If I thought that the people I’m privileged to interact with here were stupid, I wouldn’t waste my time doing it.

    Cognitive dissonance is not an insult. It is an aspect of the way our minds work that is present in everyone, and is frequently helpful, but sometimes not.

  220. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    #108 I think the WoD is stupid. If I thought that the people I’m privileged to interact with here were stupid, I wouldn’t waste my time doing it.
    Cognitive dissonance is not an insult. It is an aspect of the way our minds work that is present in everyone, and is frequently helpful, but sometimes not.

  221. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    Bob:

    I think the WoD is stupid. If I thought that the people I’m privileged to interact with here were stupid, I wouldn’t waste my time doing it.

    Fine. I think that deliberately ingesting or injecting something that has the sole purpose of causing your brain to not function is out there way past stupid.

    As far as it being a victimless crime – tell that to the families of those who’ve destroyed their lives.

  222. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    Bob:

    I think the WoD is stupid. If I thought that the people I’m privileged to interact with here were stupid, I wouldn’t waste my time doing it.

    Fine. I think that deliberately ingesting or injecting something that has the sole purpose of causing your brain to not function is out there way past stupid.
    As far as it being a victimless crime – tell that to the families of those who’ve destroyed their lives.

  223. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    #110 Bob: Any answer to my extremely direct and non vague question yet? See my #68 and 107; and WoD does not have any part of the answer; neither does Cindy and Tracy.

  224. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #110 Bob: Any answer to my extremely direct and non vague question yet? See my #68 and 107; and WoD does not have any part of the answer; neither does Cindy and Tracy.

  225. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #110 Bob

    I wouldn’t waste my time doing it.

    Really? I don’t recall that you have ever persuaded anyone here to agree with you about anything.

  226. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #110 Bob

    I wouldn’t waste my time doing it.

    Really? I don’t recall that you have ever persuaded anyone here to agree with you about anything.

  227. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    My web hosting company will be moving my server tonight from 9 pm until around 5 am tomorrow. There will be some down time during this period and it has nothing to do with Bobo’s cognitive dissonance.

  228. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    My web hosting company will be moving my server tonight from 9 pm until around 5 am tomorrow. There will be some down time during this period and it has nothing to do with Bobo’s cognitive dissonance.

  229. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #112, #68 & #107 NPR can get it’s funding from other sources. I’m merely pointing out, as a comparison, that the government steals far more money from citizens, and offers little return on that investment in their war on the plant. Both should be eliminated from sucking on the government teat.

    #111 FA, you are making the mistake that the politicians want you to make, and have trained you to make–Equating plant use with horribly addictive and damaging substance abuse. Do your homework. Alcohol causes far more harm to families than cannabis. So, should we start a war on alcohol too?

  230. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    #112, #68 & #107 NPR can get it’s funding from other sources. I’m merely pointing out, as a comparison, that the government steals far more money from citizens, and offers little return on that investment in their war on the plant. Both should be eliminated from sucking on the government teat.
    #111 FA, you are making the mistake that the politicians want you to make, and have trained you to make–Equating plant use with horribly addictive and damaging substance abuse. Do your homework. Alcohol causes far more harm to families than cannabis. So, should we start a war on alcohol too?

  231. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    As far as most of us are concerned, the government steals far more money from many more places that are far less important than waging war on drugs.

    We cvan only hope that we get to the point where we can seriously look at how to change the WoD to be more efficient, but right now the ill effects of the drug far outweigh the positive effects we’d get from not spending the money, and we’ve got bigger money and government fish to fry.

  232. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    As far as most of us are concerned, the government steals far more money from many more places that are far less important than waging war on drugs.
    We cvan only hope that we get to the point where we can seriously look at how to change the WoD to be more efficient, but right now the ill effects of the drug far outweigh the positive effects we’d get from not spending the money, and we’ve got bigger money and government fish to fry.

  233. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Last warning – end all circuitous discussions on the WoD tonight or I will unsheath Benzion’s Sword of Righteousness (which he has kindly loaned me) and fleece any comment that continues this nonsense. That goes doubly for anyone who attempts to “moderate the moderator”. I’m not in the mood tonight.

  234. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    Last warning – end all circuitous discussions on the WoD tonight or I will unsheath Benzion’s Sword of Righteousness (which he has kindly loaned me) and fleece any comment that continues this nonsense. That goes doubly for anyone who attempts to “moderate the moderator”. I’m not in the mood tonight.

  235. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    I reckon I’d better watch my step. It looks like I’m on double secret probation.

  236. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    I reckon I’d better watch my step. It looks like I’m on double secret probation.

  237. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    To paraphrase the Big Guy (no, not Quentin Tarantino):

    And I will execute great vengeance upon them with furious rebukes; and they shall know that I am the MODERATOR, when I shall lay my vengeance upon them.

  238. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    To paraphrase the Big Guy (no, not Quentin Tarantino):
    And I will execute great vengeance upon them with furious rebukes; and they shall know that I am the MODERATOR, when I shall lay my vengeance upon them.

  239. El Gordo Avatar
    El Gordo

    Is this the right place for in depth discussions of ducks?

    🙂

  240. Dooood Avatar
    Dooood

    Is this the right place for in depth discussions of ducks?
    🙂

  241. El Gordo Avatar
    El Gordo

    And why would someone want to wage a War on Ducks anyway? That just makes no sense whatsoever.

  242. Dooood Avatar
    Dooood

    And why would someone want to wage a War on Ducks anyway? That just makes no sense whatsoever.

  243. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    #113;

    I don’t recall that you have ever persuaded anyone here to agree with you about anything.

    I totally agree. 😉

  244. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    #113;

    I don’t recall that you have ever persuaded anyone here to agree with you about anything.

    I totally agree. 😉

  245. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Free the ducks!

  246. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    Free the ducks!

  247. El Gordo Avatar
    El Gordo

    Free Willy! Free James Brown! Free lunch! Oh… no such thing. Never mind.

  248. Dooood Avatar
    Dooood

    Free Willy! Free James Brown! Free lunch! Oh… no such thing. Never mind.

  249. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Free hat!

  250. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    Free hat!

  251. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Last minute entry.
    Just talked with my son who lived in Libya. He says the bombing and what we’re doing is a good thing. He had to go for a bit and is going to call back on a secured line and will give me more information that should be interesting and I will, in my magnamonous way, share with y’all.
    out for now.

    Are those helicopters over the bunker?

  252. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Last minute entry.
    Just talked with my son who lived in Libya. He says the bombing and what we’re doing is a good thing. He had to go for a bit and is going to call back on a secured line and will give me more information that should be interesting and I will, in my magnamonous way, share with y’all.
    out for now.
    Are those helicopters over the bunker?

  253. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Switching servers. Yeah, right.
    I’ve seen those black Suburbans and helicopters over at your place.

  254. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Switching servers. Yeah, right.
    I’ve seen those black Suburbans and helicopters over at your place.

  255. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Now we know the truth about why the President took his family and went to Brazil.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/article/xenon-133-dispersion-animation-radionuclide-has-blanketed-entire-united-states

  256. El Gordo Avatar
    El Gordo

    Now we know the truth about why the President took his family and went to Brazil.
    http://www.zerohedge.com/article/xenon-133-dispersion-animation-radionuclide-has-blanketed-entire-united-states

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