Tuesday Open Comments

I saw this interview on Breitbart’s BigGovernment site.  While this young man seems personable enough, his description of what he wants at work both gave me the shivers and brought me to high dudgeon:  he works at a restaurant chain called “Noodles,” and he feels “restricted” at work, not free.   Poor baby, he is told when to report for work and what to cook.  He wants workers to take control of their place of work.  Lewis concedes:  “If the owner wanted to cooperate with us as an equal and provide his skills that he had, we would definitely cooperate with him.  He’d have to abdicate his position as owner and controller of us and he would have to recognize that we — we run Noodles together and if he doesn’t want to cooperate with us, he’s against us.” He is willing to grant the owner an equal seat at the table when determining how the restaurant should be run.  He believes that the employees should have equal say in how the business should be run (providing the owner is willing to “cooperate” with them, otherwise the owner would be out in the cold), and that the risks, blood, sweat, and tears of the owner of the franchise should mean nothing.
From further down in the article:

Aaron Kennedy, the founder of Noodles, grew up on a farm with few to no connections to money. Like my friend Rob, Kennedy also studied at the University of Wisconsin. At 29, while eating at a Chinese restaurant, Kennedy had an idea, and scribbled his business plan on a napkin.
Scraping some money together from his friends and family and maxing out eight credit cards, Kennedy opened the first Noodles in his basement, and then put together a team with whom he’d build and operate 100 Noodles branches all on their own. It is now a $75 million franchise with 240 locations in 18 different states, providing jobs to over 3,000 employees just like Rob. This is what the American Dream looks like.
Under Lewis’ vision, however everything Kennedy has worked for would be taken away from him. The status he has earned for himself through his achievements would be reduced to that of one filling out an application for the very business he built from the ground up. Perhaps my imagination is limited, but I at the moment I cannot imagine a greater humiliation. This is what socialism looks like.

Mr. Lewis’ idea of how to run business was a chilling reflection of the scene from Ayn Rand’s Atlas Shrugged.  My copy is out on loan right now, so I cannot give the exact quote, but there was a passage where a very enlightened woman described how a vibrant, profitable business was run into the ground when the original owner died and the children took over. They turned over all the decisions to the employees, who were able to vote on how to run the business and how to split the profits.  Needless to say, it didn’t take long for personal issues to crowd out viable economic decisions.  While the enlightened daughter felt good about what she had done as owner of the business, giving the employees equal say, she was speaking while her father’s manufacturing plant sat idle, rusting away, and all of the employees had lost their jobs.
If Mr. Lewis and his ilk want to run a business, I suggest they start one of their own.  When his own skin is in the game, perhaps he’ll feel differently about turning over his power to those who have not learned how to make a business work.  Socialists believe that if you have money or own a business, you are (a) evil, (b) lucky, (c) privileged, (d) lazy, and/or (e) need to be taught a lesson.  Perhaps they can learn about hard work, motivation, business smarts, and respect from some of these people:
My Hubby: Started working for a plumber at age 13.  Worked his way through high school, then through college.  Went to work for several other plumbers for several years before starting his own business with an old, beat-up van, some hand tools, and a borrowed sewer machine.  Worked 12-18 hour days, in the heat and in the cold, gradually building up his equipment and occasionally getting screwed by unscrupulous customers and vendors.  When his wife (me) came on board from her corporate job, the work hours continued on into the night – through lawsuits, financial setbacks, and successes.  They took personal and financial risks and managed to raise two kids through this business.  We know of others like us, whom I cannot mention due to privacy issues.  We are not unique.
John Henry Heinz
Steve Jobs
Alonzo Decker
Fred Deluca
George Eastman
And many more.
I notice a common thread.  None of these people had things handed to them, nor did they take their businesses from anyone else.
Mr. Lewis, you and your friends want to make the decisions and run a  business?  Build your own. You just need to get off your collective butts.  Literally.

Comments

202 responses to “Tuesday Open Comments”

  1. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Well;

    Its nice to know they have finally gotten a summer jobs program for teenagers,

    I liked it better when they made the Astroturf the old fashioned way.

  2. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Well;
    Its nice to know they have finally gotten a summer jobs program for teenagers,
    I liked it better when they made the Astroturf the old fashioned way.

  3. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    The amazing thing is that the only place in the world where socialism is actually seriously discussed is on the American College Campus.

    Sadly, there are unsuspecting parents everywhere who are sacrificing their life savings to pay for their children to be be systematically deceived at college campuses across the nation. If they knew what these intellectual outhouses were actually teaching their kids. . . .

  4. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    The amazing thing is that the only place in the world where socialism is actually seriously discussed is on the American College Campus.
    Sadly, there are unsuspecting parents everywhere who are sacrificing their life savings to pay for their children to be be systematically deceived at college campuses across the nation. If they knew what these intellectual outhouses were actually teaching their kids. . . .

  5. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    The last corporate job my wife had they were recruiting these Millennials out of college and giving them hiring bonuses. They even had a person assigned to cater to them, I’m guessing in an attempt to get something productive out of them. You can only imagine the ‘tude these idiots carried with them having been sought, especially in a pack. I remember her telling of one request when she was heading up an office remodel to put a shower in so they could clean up after their lunch time jogs and maybe a space for naps. Idiots.

  6. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    The last corporate job my wife had they were recruiting these Millennials out of college and giving them hiring bonuses. They even had a person assigned to cater to them, I’m guessing in an attempt to get something productive out of them. You can only imagine the ‘tude these idiots carried with them having been sought, especially in a pack. I remember her telling of one request when she was heading up an office remodel to put a shower in so they could clean up after their lunch time jogs and maybe a space for naps. Idiots.

  7. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    The scariest part of the video is the fact that all of the poor dumb ba$tards in the meeting really truly believe the BS that they are spouting. They’ve obviously never had any rasin’.
    Mornin’ Gang

  8. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    The scariest part of the video is the fact that all of the poor dumb ba$tards in the meeting really truly believe the BS that they are spouting. They’ve obviously never had any rasin’.
    Mornin’ Gang

  9. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    I wil stop the engine that runs the world.

    John Galt

  10. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    I wil stop the engine that runs the world.
    John Galt

  11. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    FA

    The amazing thing is that the only place in the world where socialism is actually seriously discussed is on the American College Campus.

    Oh it was discussed a lot in DC, last year. Heheheheeeee!!

  12. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    FA

    The amazing thing is that the only place in the world where socialism is actually seriously discussed is on the American College Campus.

    Oh it was discussed a lot in DC, last year. Heheheheeeee!!

  13. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Bumper sticker: “If this sticker is blue, you’re driving too fast”

  14. bob42 Avatar

    Bumper sticker: “If this sticker is blue, you’re driving too fast”

  15. Katfish Avatar

    It’s the same miasma that spawned TOWBWF and his crowd.

  16. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    It’s the same miasma that spawned TOWBWF and his crowd.

  17. El Gordo Avatar

    The scary thing to me is how public sector employees don’t get it with regard to life in the private sector. Talking to a couple of city employees last night, both of them great guys on a personal level, but they were complaining about furlough, cutbacks, etc. I feel for them but couldn’t help but think, hey, this is the kind of stuff I’ve lived with my entire career. It’s easy to be lulled into a sense of entitlement.

  18. Dooood Avatar

    The scary thing to me is how public sector employees don’t get it with regard to life in the private sector. Talking to a couple of city employees last night, both of them great guys on a personal level, but they were complaining about furlough, cutbacks, etc. I feel for them but couldn’t help but think, hey, this is the kind of stuff I’ve lived with my entire career. It’s easy to be lulled into a sense of entitlement.

  19. Katfish Avatar

    this is the kind of stuff I’ve lived with my entire career

    I’ve gotten whacked a few times. It’s not fun. When it happens, I’m pretty bummed for a few days, then I go get another job. I’ve also become dissatisfied with jobs. When it happens, I don’t go down to the State Capitol or City Hall to protest; I go find another one.

    I’ve also managed to do all that without having a union.

    Go figure.

  20. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    this is the kind of stuff I’ve lived with my entire career

    I’ve gotten whacked a few times. It’s not fun. When it happens, I’m pretty bummed for a few days, then I go get another job. I’ve also become dissatisfied with jobs. When it happens, I don’t go down to the State Capitol or City Hall to protest; I go find another one.
    I’ve also managed to do all that without having a union.
    Go figure.

  21. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    You people had better get your minds right real soon or else the men in white coats will be rounding you up for re-education camp. Everybody knows that no one can make it in America by standing on their own two feet – they must have the blessing and support of M/M Obama before hand lest they be driven from the land and the fields salted behind them.

  22. El Gordo Avatar

    You people had better get your minds right real soon or else the men in white coats will be rounding you up for re-education camp. Everybody knows that no one can make it in America by standing on their own two feet – they must have the blessing and support of M/M Obama before hand lest they be driven from the land and the fields salted behind them.

  23. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Just saw the mayor of Madison on Fox, he says if Walker doesn’t back off he fears the unions will be forced to strike. What the heck do you call what they’re doing??!!

  24. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Just saw the mayor of Madison on Fox, he says if Walker doesn’t back off he fears the unions will be forced to strike. What the heck do you call what they’re doing??!!

  25. Katfish Avatar

    Animal lovers are all up in arms over plans to get rid of 26,000 stray dogs in Moscow.

    I’m thinking they could get some Chinese and Korean dog wranglers and create an export market.

  26. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Animal lovers are all up in arms over plans to get rid of 26,000 stray dogs in Moscow.
    I’m thinking they could get some Chinese and Korean dog wranglers and create an export market.

  27. El Gordo Avatar

    I’ve gotten whacked a few times. It’s not fun. When it happens, I’m pretty bummed for a few days, then I go get another job. I’ve also become dissatisfied with jobs. When it happens, I don’t go down to the State Capitol or City Hall to protest; I go find another one.

    I’ve also managed to do all that without having a union.

    Go figure.

    I see it from your side too, but in the case of the guys I was talking about, neither of them are union members nor are they the types to go protest at city hall. Both are professional men in their late 40s who are responsible family men. They are not the “rabble rouser” types at all. My point is that if guys like them who are responsible people can be lulled into a sense of false security that goes with public sector employment, how easy is it for the less responsible types to fall into the same line of thought?

    Further, one of the guys made a good point on this issue. He said that people still expect the same level of service from a smaller budget. In some cases, I think he’s right. But I think a growing segment of the population is becoming aware that smaller budgets mean less public service and are OK with that.

  28. Dooood Avatar

    I’ve gotten whacked a few times. It’s not fun. When it happens, I’m pretty bummed for a few days, then I go get another job. I’ve also become dissatisfied with jobs. When it happens, I don’t go down to the State Capitol or City Hall to protest; I go find another one.
    I’ve also managed to do all that without having a union.
    Go figure.

    I see it from your side too, but in the case of the guys I was talking about, neither of them are union members nor are they the types to go protest at city hall. Both are professional men in their late 40s who are responsible family men. They are not the “rabble rouser” types at all. My point is that if guys like them who are responsible people can be lulled into a sense of false security that goes with public sector employment, how easy is it for the less responsible types to fall into the same line of thought?
    Further, one of the guys made a good point on this issue. He said that people still expect the same level of service from a smaller budget. In some cases, I think he’s right. But I think a growing segment of the population is becoming aware that smaller budgets mean less public service and are OK with that.

  29. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    G’Morning all

    In a blue funk this morning. Jane Russell was the first love of my life. She was one classy lady, sexy, smart, Troop entertainer all around good person.

    The Los Angeles Times reported that Russell had suffered from respiratory problems and died after a short illness. The actress made her biggest splash

    in her first role in 1943’s “The Outlaw,” a Howard Hughes-produced film that played up her sexuality in a marketing campaign that focused on her voluptuous figure.

    Sample of why I fell in love.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=131Yw9BUdQM&feature=related

  30. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    G’Morning all
    In a blue funk this morning. Jane Russell was the first love of my life. She was one classy lady, sexy, smart, Troop entertainer all around good person.

    The Los Angeles Times reported that Russell had suffered from respiratory problems and died after a short illness. The actress made her biggest splash
    in her first role in 1943’s “The Outlaw,” a Howard Hughes-produced film that played up her sexuality in a marketing campaign that focused on her voluptuous figure.

    Sample of why I fell in love.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=131Yw9BUdQM&feature=related

  31. Tedtam Avatar

    The line that really chapped my butt? (One quote among many that flew out of this idiot’s mouth)

    He’d have to abdicate his position as owner and controller of us

    It reminded me of that little kid in the middle of the store, after Mommy tells him he can’t run amok or have that candy bar: “YOU’RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME!”

    It’s right about then that Mommy or Daddy needs to slap the little turd-squisher into immediate and complete obedience.

    Same with this guy. And all his little friends, too.

  32. Tedtam Avatar

    The line that really chapped my butt? (One quote among many that flew out of this idiot’s mouth)

    He’d have to abdicate his position as owner and controller of us

    It reminded me of that little kid in the middle of the store, after Mommy tells him he can’t run amok or have that candy bar: “YOU’RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME!”
    It’s right about then that Mommy or Daddy needs to slap the little turd-squisher into immediate and complete obedience.
    Same with this guy. And all his little friends, too.

  33. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Just saw the mayor of Madison on Fox, he says if Walker doesn’t back off he fears the unions will be forced to strike. What the heck do you call what they’re doing??!!

    Showing us why public sector unions are a bad idea.

    Its one when your strike temporarily shuts down a factory that makes left handed rivet wrenches, its quite another when your strike shuts down critical government functions like trash removal, animal control, sanitation sewers, road repair, and education.

    Especially when you make more money than the people who pay your wages do.

  34. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Just saw the mayor of Madison on Fox, he says if Walker doesn’t back off he fears the unions will be forced to strike. What the heck do you call what they’re doing??!!

    Showing us why public sector unions are a bad idea.
    Its one when your strike temporarily shuts down a factory that makes left handed rivet wrenches, its quite another when your strike shuts down critical government functions like trash removal, animal control, sanitation sewers, road repair, and education.
    Especially when you make more money than the people who pay your wages do.

  35. Tedtam Avatar

    #17 OleTimer

    They certainly don’t make ’em like that anymore. A whole era of class is passing away, to be replaced with the likes of Tom Cruise, Charlie Sheen, Britney Spears, and Lindsay Lohan.

  36. Tedtam Avatar

    #17 OleTimer
    They certainly don’t make ’em like that anymore. A whole era of class is passing away, to be replaced with the likes of Tom Cruise, Charlie Sheen, Britney Spears, and Lindsay Lohan.

  37. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #14 wagonburner, I saw that yesterday and had the exact same thought, great minds think alike. 😉
    What do you call a Vietnamese with 1 dog? ….A vegetarian
    With 3 dogs?…A rancher

  38. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Dooood

    Further, one of the guys made a good point on this issue. He said that people still expect the same level of service from a smaller budget. In some cases, I think he’s right. But I think a growing segment of the population is becoming aware that smaller budgets mean less public service and are OK with that.

    Cutting the budget and or getting rid of some people doesn’t necessarily mean less service, I’m sure that there is a lot of waste. I do agree that most people would be happy with less service though if it would bring the budget into line. We the tax payers just can’t afford this amount of government.

  39. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Dooood

    Further, one of the guys made a good point on this issue. He said that people still expect the same level of service from a smaller budget. In some cases, I think he’s right. But I think a growing segment of the population is becoming aware that smaller budgets mean less public service and are OK with that.

    Cutting the budget and or getting rid of some people doesn’t necessarily mean less service, I’m sure that there is a lot of waste. I do agree that most people would be happy with less service though if it would bring the budget into line. We the tax payers just can’t afford this amount of government.

  40. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Guess now I’ll have to fall back on the second love of my life, Julie London. This song of hers still send shivers up my spine.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXg6UB9Qk0o&feature=related

    P.S. No, I’m not gonna try to make this a song post today. These 2 songs are it. Both of these ladies were first class and really have a permanent place in my heart. Pity today’s sex symbols can’t show a little class.

  41. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Guess now I’ll have to fall back on the second love of my life, Julie London. This song of hers still send shivers up my spine.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXg6UB9Qk0o&feature=related
    P.S. No, I’m not gonna try to make this a song post today. These 2 songs are it. Both of these ladies were first class and really have a permanent place in my heart. Pity today’s sex symbols can’t show a little class.

  42. Tedtam Avatar

    There’s a house across the street that belonged to a really nice guy for years and years. Gordon finally remarried and moved, and the house has changed hands quite often since. For a few months it was owned by a guy who was a Metro cop. I’m guessing he was in his mid- to late forties. Believe it or not, he was planning his retirement. He was going to add a lot of floor space to the existing house, doubling its size. Among other things, the addition was to hold a game room for him and his Harley buddies. We had what appeared to be a small motorcycle gang at his place a few times. He made no bones that he was only going to work for a few more years, get his pension which was going to be almost his full salary, and he had enough money to build this house and buy a new bike and…and…and…

    And all the while he was telling us of his grand plans, I was thinking to myself, “Do you realize that you are talking to a taxpayer who is paying for your fabulous retirement and struggling to pay my bills?” I was looking at the future construction site across the street and wonder when we’d be able to finish our home.

    He ended up selling the house and moving to some acreage near Alvin. Fortunately, he did it before my head exploded. I know he was truly clueless as to the effect his bragging about his retirement was having on me.

  43. Tedtam Avatar

    There’s a house across the street that belonged to a really nice guy for years and years. Gordon finally remarried and moved, and the house has changed hands quite often since. For a few months it was owned by a guy who was a Metro cop. I’m guessing he was in his mid- to late forties. Believe it or not, he was planning his retirement. He was going to add a lot of floor space to the existing house, doubling its size. Among other things, the addition was to hold a game room for him and his Harley buddies. We had what appeared to be a small motorcycle gang at his place a few times. He made no bones that he was only going to work for a few more years, get his pension which was going to be almost his full salary, and he had enough money to build this house and buy a new bike and…and…and…
    And all the while he was telling us of his grand plans, I was thinking to myself, “Do you realize that you are talking to a taxpayer who is paying for your fabulous retirement and struggling to pay my bills?” I was looking at the future construction site across the street and wonder when we’d be able to finish our home.
    He ended up selling the house and moving to some acreage near Alvin. Fortunately, he did it before my head exploded. I know he was truly clueless as to the effect his bragging about his retirement was having on me.

  44. Hamous Avatar

    #21 SuperDave: Don’t forget about the most popular book in Korea: 101 ways to wok your dog.

  45. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #21 SuperDave: Don’t forget about the most popular book in Korea: 101 ways to wok your dog.

  46. El Gordo Avatar

    Cutting the budget and or getting rid of some people doesn’t necessarily mean less service, I’m sure that there is a lot of waste.

    What makes you so sure? Not saying you’re wrong, but you’re making a big assumption with no data to back it up. If we, the citizenry, show a willingness to accept less service it will at a minimum call their bluff (if indeed it is one).

  47. Dooood Avatar

    Cutting the budget and or getting rid of some people doesn’t necessarily mean less service, I’m sure that there is a lot of waste.

    What makes you so sure? Not saying you’re wrong, but you’re making a big assumption with no data to back it up. If we, the citizenry, show a willingness to accept less service it will at a minimum call their bluff (if indeed it is one).

  48. Tedtam Avatar

    Okay, this one is still not as good as my all-time favorite.

    Assurance that we should keep on living, they are.

    And what’s the deal about paper?

  49. Tedtam Avatar

    Okay, this one is still not as good as my all-time favorite.
    Assurance that we should keep on living, they are.
    And what’s the deal about paper?

  50. Hamous Avatar

    RE: headline for today’s o/c thread. The problem is the entitlement mentality. This got started with FDR and social “security”; over the vehement objections of the R in the minority who wanted IRA’s, the D’s put in a govt sponsored “voluntary” pension plan. Like all non-individually owned plans, the funds will be looted and those that funded them get screwed. Then comes LBJ with his Great Society plan that instituted Welfare and, I believe Medicaide. Once again, this increases the sense of entitlement to other people’s money (OPM). To add insult to injury, LBJ called this a war on poverty and the rate of those in poverty keeps going up along with the standard of living of the “poor”. The underlying problem is the entitlement mentality that has been carefully fostered, fertilized and encouraged ever since, at least, FDR and probably as far back as Woody Wilson.
    The definition of compassion does not include your hand in my wallet.

  51. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    RE: headline for today’s o/c thread. The problem is the entitlement mentality. This got started with FDR and social “security”; over the vehement objections of the R in the minority who wanted IRA’s, the D’s put in a govt sponsored “voluntary” pension plan. Like all non-individually owned plans, the funds will be looted and those that funded them get screwed. Then comes LBJ with his Great Society plan that instituted Welfare and, I believe Medicaide. Once again, this increases the sense of entitlement to other people’s money (OPM). To add insult to injury, LBJ called this a war on poverty and the rate of those in poverty keeps going up along with the standard of living of the “poor”. The underlying problem is the entitlement mentality that has been carefully fostered, fertilized and encouraged ever since, at least, FDR and probably as far back as Woody Wilson.
    The definition of compassion does not include your hand in my wallet.

  52. Katfish Avatar

    #26 doooooooooooooooooooooood

    Cutting the budget and or getting rid of some people doesn’t necessarily mean less service, I’m sure that there is a lot of waste.

    What makes you so sure? Not saying you’re wrong, but you’re making a big assumption with no data to back it up. If we, the citizenry, show a willingness to accept less service it will at a minimum call their bluff (if indeed it is one).

    Private sector businesses have been doing it for decades – some better than other. In any organization there is waste. In general, the larger the organization, the more waste, especially if there is insufficient motive to be efficient.

  53. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #26 doooooooooooooooooooooood

    Cutting the budget and or getting rid of some people doesn’t necessarily mean less service, I’m sure that there is a lot of waste.

    What makes you so sure? Not saying you’re wrong, but you’re making a big assumption with no data to back it up. If we, the citizenry, show a willingness to accept less service it will at a minimum call their bluff (if indeed it is one).

    Private sector businesses have been doing it for decades – some better than other. In any organization there is waste. In general, the larger the organization, the more waste, especially if there is insufficient motive to be efficient.

  54. Hamous Avatar

    re my #27 above: IF, during the FDR days, the R’s plan to fund a retirement system of IRA’s actually happened, we would likely have 0 national debt and have very low taxes. There would still be poor people, but they would be poor by choice or by not having any raw materials (brain power, aptitude) with which to work. Imagine that one could put away 10% and have that 10% matched by the employer – all of which goes into a tax free IRA. The retirement issues would be solved as the only thing one would have to do is KEEP A JOB for 40 years. It really doesn’t make a big difference what the job is, as long as it meets your basic needs; after the 40 years you will be making more in interest than what you would in salary and you could retire on the interest alone if you wished. The principle could be passed to your heirs to kick start their retirement plan or doen payment on their first house or whatever. There would be a big pool of real assets, CAPITAL on which to fund genuine investment and further grow and innovate our lifestyle. What we have now is just a big screaming cluster-wiss that wisses everybody except those who get to loot the kitty.

  55. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    re my #27 above: IF, during the FDR days, the R’s plan to fund a retirement system of IRA’s actually happened, we would likely have 0 national debt and have very low taxes. There would still be poor people, but they would be poor by choice or by not having any raw materials (brain power, aptitude) with which to work. Imagine that one could put away 10% and have that 10% matched by the employer – all of which goes into a tax free IRA. The retirement issues would be solved as the only thing one would have to do is KEEP A JOB for 40 years. It really doesn’t make a big difference what the job is, as long as it meets your basic needs; after the 40 years you will be making more in interest than what you would in salary and you could retire on the interest alone if you wished. The principle could be passed to your heirs to kick start their retirement plan or doen payment on their first house or whatever. There would be a big pool of real assets, CAPITAL on which to fund genuine investment and further grow and innovate our lifestyle. What we have now is just a big screaming cluster-wiss that wisses everybody except those who get to loot the kitty.

  56. Katfish Avatar

    Ole, a Norwegian fella wants a job, but the foreman doesn’t want to hire him, so he says he won’t hire him until he passes a little math test.

    Here is your first question, the foreman said. ‘Without using numbers, represent the number 9.’

    ‘Without numbers?’ The Norwegian says, ‘Dat’s easy.’ and proceeds to draw three trees.

    What’s this?’ the boss asks.

    Vot! You got no brain? Tree and tree and tree make nine,’ says the Norwegian.

    ‘Fair enough,’ says the boss. ‘Here’s your second question. Use the same rules, but this time represent the number 99.’

    The Norwegian stares into space for a while, then picks up the picture that he has just drawn and makes a smudge on each tree. ‘Dar ya go!’

    The boss scratches his head and says, ‘How on earth do you get that to represent 99?’

    ‘You must be from Iowa …Each of da trees is dirty now. So, it’s dirty tree, and dirty tree, and dirty tree. Dat is 99.’

    The boss is getting worried that he’s going to actually have to hire this Norwegian, so he says, ‘All right, last question. Same rules again, but represent the number 100.’

    The Norwegian fella stares into space some more, then he picks up the picture again and makes a little mark at the base of each tree and says, ‘Dar ya go! Von hundred!’

    The boss looks at the attempt. ‘You must be nuts if you think that represents a hundred!’

    The Norwegian winces and shakes his head…UFF-DAH…you must be a Finlander from Iowa…he leans forward and points to the marks at the base of each tree and says, ‘A little dog come along and pooped by each tree. So now you got dirty tree and a turd, dirty tree and a turd, and dirty tree and a turd, and dat makes von hundred !!’ ‘So, ven do I start?

  57. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Ole, a Norwegian fella wants a job, but the foreman doesn’t want to hire him, so he says he won’t hire him until he passes a little math test.
    Here is your first question, the foreman said. ‘Without using numbers, represent the number 9.’
    ‘Without numbers?’ The Norwegian says, ‘Dat’s easy.’ and proceeds to draw three trees.
    What’s this?’ the boss asks.
    Vot! You got no brain? Tree and tree and tree make nine,’ says the Norwegian.
    ‘Fair enough,’ says the boss. ‘Here’s your second question. Use the same rules, but this time represent the number 99.’
    The Norwegian stares into space for a while, then picks up the picture that he has just drawn and makes a smudge on each tree. ‘Dar ya go!’
    The boss scratches his head and says, ‘How on earth do you get that to represent 99?’
    ‘You must be from Iowa …Each of da trees is dirty now. So, it’s dirty tree, and dirty tree, and dirty tree. Dat is 99.’
    The boss is getting worried that he’s going to actually have to hire this Norwegian, so he says, ‘All right, last question. Same rules again, but represent the number 100.’
    The Norwegian fella stares into space some more, then he picks up the picture again and makes a little mark at the base of each tree and says, ‘Dar ya go! Von hundred!’
    The boss looks at the attempt. ‘You must be nuts if you think that represents a hundred!’
    The Norwegian winces and shakes his head…UFF-DAH…you must be a Finlander from Iowa…he leans forward and points to the marks at the base of each tree and says, ‘A little dog come along and pooped by each tree. So now you got dirty tree and a turd, dirty tree and a turd, and dirty tree and a turd, and dat makes von hundred !!’ ‘So, ven do I start?

  58. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #26 Doood, I could give you one example that I witnessed in my neighborhood just last week, two city trucks, two guys down in a hole digging with a shovel, three guys (nicer dressed) standing around supervising,..I guess. I’d say fire all three of the guys watching, but that’s just me. I see this all the time, BTW.

  59. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #26 Doood, I could give you one example that I witnessed in my neighborhood just last week, two city trucks, two guys down in a hole digging with a shovel, three guys (nicer dressed) standing around supervising,..I guess. I’d say fire all three of the guys watching, but that’s just me. I see this all the time, BTW.

  60. Tedtam Avatar

    A T-sip, a Baylor grad, and an Aggie all appear at the Pearly Gates at the same time. St. Peter looks them over and announces that to get into Heaven there is a spelling test. He turns to the Baylor grad and asks him to spell “Waco,” which he does and St. Peter says “Welcome to Heaven! Come on in and make yourself at home!”

    St. Peter then turns to the T-sip and asks him to spell “Dallas”. “D-a-l-l–a-s,” the t-sip replies. St. Peter gives a big grin and waves him through the gates. “Welcome to Heaven! Make yourself at home!”

    St. Peter then turns to the Aggie. “Spell Nacogdoches,” he says.

  61. Tedtam Avatar

    A T-sip, a Baylor grad, and an Aggie all appear at the Pearly Gates at the same time. St. Peter looks them over and announces that to get into Heaven there is a spelling test. He turns to the Baylor grad and asks him to spell “Waco,” which he does and St. Peter says “Welcome to Heaven! Come on in and make yourself at home!”
    St. Peter then turns to the T-sip and asks him to spell “Dallas”. “D-a-l-l–a-s,” the t-sip replies. St. Peter gives a big grin and waves him through the gates. “Welcome to Heaven! Make yourself at home!”
    St. Peter then turns to the Aggie. “Spell Nacogdoches,” he says.

  62. Tedtam Avatar

    #32 Superdave

    That must have been the same crew working on my street last week!

  63. Tedtam Avatar

    #32 Superdave
    That must have been the same crew working on my street last week!

  64. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #13 WB, in the first place, the law is still being enforced.

    The court case that caused TOWBWF to abandon his oath of office to enforce the law

    .
    In the second place, the story in your linkie is far from unique. DOMA and similar state laws disadvantage same sex couples in over a thousand different ways.

    The lesbian couples at my church each had to spend $4K for the one partner to legally adopt the others child. An infertile husband is by law automatically listed as the “father” even though the bio-dad was a sperm donor. If that isn’t unequal treatment under the law, I don’t know what is.

    Fortunately they had the money. I could tell you another couple that didn’t, and when bio mom died in a car crash, the the other mom had no legal right to continue parenting their son. A 5 year old boy tragically lost one of his parents, and the state could not legally recognize that the only other parent the child had ever known was the best person to raise him. (“Family values” my butt.)

    DOMA will inevitably be ruled unconstitutional simply because it can be easily proven that it does discriminate and legalizes unequal treatment of the most private of free associations that exists.

    DOMA proponents on the other hand, can not and have not proven that such laws are necessary or beneficial, or that same sex couples are any kind of threat. And sadly, the harder they try, the more they lie.

  65. bob42 Avatar

    #13 WB, in the first place, the law is still being enforced.

    The court case that caused TOWBWF to abandon his oath of office to enforce the law

    .
    In the second place, the story in your linkie is far from unique. DOMA and similar state laws disadvantage same sex couples in over a thousand different ways.
    The lesbian couples at my church each had to spend $4K for the one partner to legally adopt the others child. An infertile husband is by law automatically listed as the “father” even though the bio-dad was a sperm donor. If that isn’t unequal treatment under the law, I don’t know what is.
    Fortunately they had the money. I could tell you another couple that didn’t, and when bio mom died in a car crash, the the other mom had no legal right to continue parenting their son. A 5 year old boy tragically lost one of his parents, and the state could not legally recognize that the only other parent the child had ever known was the best person to raise him. (“Family values” my butt.)
    DOMA will inevitably be ruled unconstitutional simply because it can be easily proven that it does discriminate and legalizes unequal treatment of the most private of free associations that exists.
    DOMA proponents on the other hand, can not and have not proven that such laws are necessary or beneficial, or that same sex couples are any kind of threat. And sadly, the harder they try, the more they lie.

  66. El Gordo Avatar

    In any organization there is waste. In general, the larger the organization, the more waste, especially if there is insufficient motive to be efficient.

    Absolutely, but there seems to be some stereotyping of government employment going on here, which I feel somewhat compelled to rebut. It’s always easy to demonize people you don’t know.

    Without revealing the name of either gentlemen (they are both in the public eye), I will tell you in which areas they both work. One guy (who is a close personal friend) works for H.E.R.C. (Houston Emergency Response Center). The other works in the area of waste disposal. Both guys are fairly high up in management at their respective divisions. We can probably all agree that those are both essential services.

    I can also tell you that neither man is receiving a king’s ransom for their position. Yes, they make a decent living with good benefits, but both are more concerned with raising their kids and sending them through college than they are with building extravagant palaces to house their Harley collections. They aren’t really any different than most of us that comment here in that regard.

    So are you folks prepared to tell me that you know more about their budgets and the waste within their departments than they do? Again, you may be right. Chances are you probably are right about the level of waste. But until we the public display a willingness to accept less service, the size of government will continue to ratchet in the wrong direction – whether you’re right or wrong about the waste issue – until such time that it can’t ratchet any further that is. It would be a lot easier if we approached that point voluntarily – with some degree of control – than to hit it abruptly.

  67. Dooood Avatar

    In any organization there is waste. In general, the larger the organization, the more waste, especially if there is insufficient motive to be efficient.

    Absolutely, but there seems to be some stereotyping of government employment going on here, which I feel somewhat compelled to rebut. It’s always easy to demonize people you don’t know.
    Without revealing the name of either gentlemen (they are both in the public eye), I will tell you in which areas they both work. One guy (who is a close personal friend) works for H.E.R.C. (Houston Emergency Response Center). The other works in the area of waste disposal. Both guys are fairly high up in management at their respective divisions. We can probably all agree that those are both essential services.
    I can also tell you that neither man is receiving a king’s ransom for their position. Yes, they make a decent living with good benefits, but both are more concerned with raising their kids and sending them through college than they are with building extravagant palaces to house their Harley collections. They aren’t really any different than most of us that comment here in that regard.
    So are you folks prepared to tell me that you know more about their budgets and the waste within their departments than they do? Again, you may be right. Chances are you probably are right about the level of waste. But until we the public display a willingness to accept less service, the size of government will continue to ratchet in the wrong direction – whether you’re right or wrong about the waste issue – until such time that it can’t ratchet any further that is. It would be a lot easier if we approached that point voluntarily – with some degree of control – than to hit it abruptly.

  68. Tedtam Avatar

    #36 Dude

    I work with city employees all the time. Like any organization of any sufficient size, there is deadwood and there are gems.

    I know of one utility analyst whose main goal in his office is merely changing oxygen into carbon dioxide until he retires. There’s another who’s a real go-getter and willing to help me when I have questions. Guess who I go to when I need help? Number 1 actually screwed up so much of my paperwork that I’ve gone to a “pull two numbers” system whenever possible. I pull one number to wait my turn, then, after another customer pulls a number, I go and pull a second one. If oxygen-waster shows up on my first number, I pretend that the owner of that number has left. The next guy is then stuck with the OW, and I have a chance at a someone who has at least two working brain cells and the desire to help me take care of our customers.

    Hubby had to deal with an inspector who was late to every job, usually because he was asleep or had to stop to eat. He gave Hubby crap and made every job difficult. The other inspectors hated him, but he ended up staying looooong after his expiration date. There was another inspector that Steve liked very much – he worked with Steve when problems arose, was prompt (or had a good reason to be late), and was very professional.

    There was a lady who processed new service requests. We learned not to call her, for two reasons. First, she rarely answered her phone, which meant it would roll to voicemail, which she never picked up. If we were lucky enough to get her one the phone, we had to kiss her butt for her to even attempt to have a good attitude with us, much less actually get anything done. I am sure that should I have even wanted to check, there would have been a permanent hickey on her rear. She retired, began collecting her pension, then was hired back by the city as a “consultant,” giving the same crappy service as before. Her co-worker is the one we ended up trying to call when we needed help.

    Yep, I think there is room for improvement. I wish that customer evaluations could be used to determine who stays and who goes.

    Which reminds me – I ran into a problem with the city’s mapping system, which we use daily to determine where utility lines are for our jobs. It was a data problem, which I found only after banging my head for about 30 minutes trying to figure out why the mapping for that block wouldn’t work. I called the city, trying to find out who to report the problem to, and got the aforementioned Oxygen Waster. I explained the problem, and his response was “What do you want me to do about it?” Exasperated, I asked if he knew of someone I could be transferred to who might know which department I should talk to. OW put me on hold for what seemed forever, then I was transferred to “Claude,” who worked in the same department. “Claude” was very helpful. He took down the information, said he would contact the data department. He even called our customer to explain the problem, both before and after we hooked up his meter. I was very impressed, and wrote a letter to his supervisor expressing my extreme pleasure in finding someone who went to such lengths to help me.

    Several months later I approached the same department to discuss another meter situation. There was quite a hubbub behind the counter, and Oxygen Waster was glaring at me. Not knowing what I had done to upset OW so much (and not caring, really), I was surprised when Claude approached me, shook my hand, and thanked me. “For what?” I asked, completely dumbfounded over the greeting. It turns out that Claude had gotten an “Extra Mile” award, for employees who go the “extra mile” to help the customers. He earned a cash award and I think a day off, and my letter was in the city employee newsletter. Claude ended up getting a promotion, I believe. Good for him.

    Oxygen Waster is still in the same position, changing oxygen in to CO2.

  69. Tedtam Avatar

    #36 Dude
    I work with city employees all the time. Like any organization of any sufficient size, there is deadwood and there are gems.
    I know of one utility analyst whose main goal in his office is merely changing oxygen into carbon dioxide until he retires. There’s another who’s a real go-getter and willing to help me when I have questions. Guess who I go to when I need help? Number 1 actually screwed up so much of my paperwork that I’ve gone to a “pull two numbers” system whenever possible. I pull one number to wait my turn, then, after another customer pulls a number, I go and pull a second one. If oxygen-waster shows up on my first number, I pretend that the owner of that number has left. The next guy is then stuck with the OW, and I have a chance at a someone who has at least two working brain cells and the desire to help me take care of our customers.
    Hubby had to deal with an inspector who was late to every job, usually because he was asleep or had to stop to eat. He gave Hubby crap and made every job difficult. The other inspectors hated him, but he ended up staying looooong after his expiration date. There was another inspector that Steve liked very much – he worked with Steve when problems arose, was prompt (or had a good reason to be late), and was very professional.
    There was a lady who processed new service requests. We learned not to call her, for two reasons. First, she rarely answered her phone, which meant it would roll to voicemail, which she never picked up. If we were lucky enough to get her one the phone, we had to kiss her butt for her to even attempt to have a good attitude with us, much less actually get anything done. I am sure that should I have even wanted to check, there would have been a permanent hickey on her rear. She retired, began collecting her pension, then was hired back by the city as a “consultant,” giving the same crappy service as before. Her co-worker is the one we ended up trying to call when we needed help.
    Yep, I think there is room for improvement. I wish that customer evaluations could be used to determine who stays and who goes.
    Which reminds me – I ran into a problem with the city’s mapping system, which we use daily to determine where utility lines are for our jobs. It was a data problem, which I found only after banging my head for about 30 minutes trying to figure out why the mapping for that block wouldn’t work. I called the city, trying to find out who to report the problem to, and got the aforementioned Oxygen Waster. I explained the problem, and his response was “What do you want me to do about it?” Exasperated, I asked if he knew of someone I could be transferred to who might know which department I should talk to. OW put me on hold for what seemed forever, then I was transferred to “Claude,” who worked in the same department. “Claude” was very helpful. He took down the information, said he would contact the data department. He even called our customer to explain the problem, both before and after we hooked up his meter. I was very impressed, and wrote a letter to his supervisor expressing my extreme pleasure in finding someone who went to such lengths to help me.
    Several months later I approached the same department to discuss another meter situation. There was quite a hubbub behind the counter, and Oxygen Waster was glaring at me. Not knowing what I had done to upset OW so much (and not caring, really), I was surprised when Claude approached me, shook my hand, and thanked me. “For what?” I asked, completely dumbfounded over the greeting. It turns out that Claude had gotten an “Extra Mile” award, for employees who go the “extra mile” to help the customers. He earned a cash award and I think a day off, and my letter was in the city employee newsletter. Claude ended up getting a promotion, I believe. Good for him.
    Oxygen Waster is still in the same position, changing oxygen in to CO2.

  70. Dooood Avatar

    #37 TT,
    Yes indeed, good and bad w/ in any organization. I could give you examples from the private sector as well, and at least with those there is more consequence. My sincere wish is that people treat local elections as being even more important than national ones.

  71. Tedtam Avatar

    #38 Dooood

    The problem is that with public unions – civil service and all – there is not sufficient motivation to be effective in job performance. Some are effective because they are wired that way, and take some pride in their job. Others, such as the examples above, fear no retribution for being lazy, ineffective, inefficient, and general PITAs. They are protected by their union status and the civil service protections. In the private, non-unionized sectors, there IS a consequence to not doing your job – not having a job.

    That’s why unions, especially public unions, are boil on the economic butt of this nation.

  72. Tedtam Avatar

    #38 Dooood
    The problem is that with public unions – civil service and all – there is not sufficient motivation to be effective in job performance. Some are effective because they are wired that way, and take some pride in their job. Others, such as the examples above, fear no retribution for being lazy, ineffective, inefficient, and general PITAs. They are protected by their union status and the civil service protections. In the private, non-unionized sectors, there IS a consequence to not doing your job – not having a job.
    That’s why unions, especially public unions, are boil on the economic butt of this nation.

  73. Katfish Avatar

    #36 doooooood
    There are many entire departments in City, County, State, and Federal government that could vanish right now and nobody other than those who work in them would be able to tell the difference. Yet, when anyone even starts to talk about budget cuts, the mayor et al. immediately start jumping to the “We can’t cut our budget without cutting into Vital Civic Services like fire & police.”, which is complete hogwash.

    In most plants along the ship channel, the engineering staff is given a cost-cutting budget of some form. For example, they must reduce scrap/waste by 5% each year or improve energy efficiency by 3% each year. Management is measured by how much they get done and how much it costs to do it. For example, an IT project will have to state in its proposal how much extra productivity it will deliver (often in FTE’s) and will be measured by that. There is no reason City Hall can’t do the exact same thing.

    During the next emergency, when they tell “non-essential” city & county workers to stay home, we should take a good hard look at who they are and in what departments they work for cost-cutting ideas.

  74. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #36 doooooood
    There are many entire departments in City, County, State, and Federal government that could vanish right now and nobody other than those who work in them would be able to tell the difference. Yet, when anyone even starts to talk about budget cuts, the mayor et al. immediately start jumping to the “We can’t cut our budget without cutting into Vital Civic Services like fire & police.”, which is complete hogwash.
    In most plants along the ship channel, the engineering staff is given a cost-cutting budget of some form. For example, they must reduce scrap/waste by 5% each year or improve energy efficiency by 3% each year. Management is measured by how much they get done and how much it costs to do it. For example, an IT project will have to state in its proposal how much extra productivity it will deliver (often in FTE’s) and will be measured by that. There is no reason City Hall can’t do the exact same thing.
    During the next emergency, when they tell “non-essential” city & county workers to stay home, we should take a good hard look at who they are and in what departments they work for cost-cutting ideas.

  75. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    OK wagonburner here’s today’s headline; Breast Milk Ice Cream Causes Hepatitis Fears In London.
    This is so wrong on many levels.

  76. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    OK wagonburner here’s today’s headline; Breast Milk Ice Cream Causes Hepatitis Fears In London.
    This is so wrong on many levels.

  77. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Congratulations Harry Reid! You’ve received the (not so coveted) Nanny of the Month Award.

  78. bob42 Avatar

    Congratulations Harry Reid! You’ve received the (not so coveted) Nanny of the Month Award.

  79. Katfish Avatar

    Anyone up for a caption contest?

  80. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Anyone up for a caption contest?

  81. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Obama has sissy hands.

    I bet he runs like a girl.

  82. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Obama has sissy hands.
    I bet he runs like a girl.

  83. Tedtam Avatar

    Barf Kitty is back in the window, meowing for her squirrely friend.

  84. Tedtam Avatar

    Barf Kitty is back in the window, meowing for her squirrely friend.

  85. Tedtam Avatar

    I’d like to know, other than her “toned arms,” what the heckfahr makes this woman “glamorous”? She has never struck me as a glamorous beauty in any way, shape, or form. Except for those fabulously toned arms. Gotta love those arms. The media does.

  86. Tedtam Avatar

    I’d like to know, other than her “toned arms,” what the heckfahr makes this woman “glamorous”? She has never struck me as a glamorous beauty in any way, shape, or form. Except for those fabulously toned arms. Gotta love those arms. The media does.

  87. SC Avatar
    SC

    #42 Funny, Capitol Hill is the biggest brothel in existance.

  88. SC Avatar
    SC

    #42 Funny, Capitol Hill is the biggest brothel in existance.

  89. Katfish Avatar

    #46 tedtam
    Looks like they transplanted the fat, etc. from her arms to her a$$.

  90. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #46 tedtam
    Looks like they transplanted the fat, etc. from her arms to her a$$.

  91. Tedtam Avatar

    I’m not going to criticize her body shape. Genetically speaking, she can’t help where nature has decided to store fat. I’m just agog at the media reaction to her presence. She’s okay, but not glamorous.

  92. Tedtam Avatar

    I’m not going to criticize her body shape. Genetically speaking, she can’t help where nature has decided to store fat. I’m just agog at the media reaction to her presence. She’s okay, but not glamorous.

  93. El Gordo Avatar

    #40,

    Agreed. Sticky part becomes an accurate determination of what “essential” means. It would be tempting to say you could live without trash pickup. You could – for a while. Give it a few months and yours would not be a city any normal human would want to inhabit.

  94. Dooood Avatar

    #40,
    Agreed. Sticky part becomes an accurate determination of what “essential” means. It would be tempting to say you could live without trash pickup. You could – for a while. Give it a few months and yours would not be a city any normal human would want to inhabit.

  95. El Gordo Avatar

    #39,

    Agreed there too. But in all fairness I’ve run across some private sector dead wood who obviously missed their share of consequences.

  96. Dooood Avatar

    #39,
    Agreed there too. But in all fairness I’ve run across some private sector dead wood who obviously missed their share of consequences.

  97. El Gordo Avatar

    I just had an idea. A stupid one perhaps, but an idea nonetheless. What were your jobs that you’ve held throughout your working life? Could be an interesting look at some of the characters that frequent the couch here. You kids at home play along if you’d like. I’ll go first:

    Starting at ~ age 13

    1. Newspaper route delivery
    2. Photo darkroom tech (unpaid position)
    3. Various food service jobs
    4. Janitor
    5. Sheet metal worker
    6. Analytical lab technician (twice – for two different companies)
    7. Electronic test lab equipment tech
    8. Analytical lab equipment service tech
    9. R&D electronic tech
    10. Instrumentation tech
    11. Instrumentation draftsman
    12. Electrical controls system designer (currently)

    None of them were union positions, although there was a push in that direction for the second #6 listed.

  98. Dooood Avatar

    I just had an idea. A stupid one perhaps, but an idea nonetheless. What were your jobs that you’ve held throughout your working life? Could be an interesting look at some of the characters that frequent the couch here. You kids at home play along if you’d like. I’ll go first:
    Starting at ~ age 13
    1. Newspaper route delivery
    2. Photo darkroom tech (unpaid position)
    3. Various food service jobs
    4. Janitor
    5. Sheet metal worker
    6. Analytical lab technician (twice – for two different companies)
    7. Electronic test lab equipment tech
    8. Analytical lab equipment service tech
    9. R&D electronic tech
    10. Instrumentation tech
    11. Instrumentation draftsman
    12. Electrical controls system designer (currently)
    None of them were union positions, although there was a push in that direction for the second #6 listed.

  99. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Age 13 start
    Concession stand operator
    Dish washer
    Car washer
    Hospital housekeeping
    Meatcutter/manager
    Retail plant nursery manager
    Landscaping/nursery owner
    Auction ring man
    Welder
    Water/wastewater utility manager
    Freight Broker
    Water utility manager (present)

    And any others I’ve forgotten

  100. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Age 13 start
    Concession stand operator
    Dish washer
    Car washer
    Hospital housekeeping
    Meatcutter/manager
    Retail plant nursery manager
    Landscaping/nursery owner
    Auction ring man
    Welder
    Water/wastewater utility manager
    Freight Broker
    Water utility manager (present)
    And any others I’ve forgotten

  101. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I left out Ranch Hand

  102. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I left out Ranch Hand

  103. Katfish Avatar

    Start age 14
    Cashier/stockboy at a fruit stand
    Oil field roustabout/slave
    Exhibit tech at a science museum
    Geophysicist
    System admin
    Programmer
    Computer hardware/software sales support
    Realtime data processing system implementation
    Inventory planner
    Demand/production planner
    Supply chain planning manager
    Supply chain planner

  104. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Start age 14
    Cashier/stockboy at a fruit stand
    Oil field roustabout/slave
    Exhibit tech at a science museum
    Geophysicist
    System admin
    Programmer
    Computer hardware/software sales support
    Realtime data processing system implementation
    Inventory planner
    Demand/production planner
    Supply chain planning manager
    Supply chain planner

  105. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Oh and party animal (retired)

  106. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Oh and party animal (retired)

  107. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #54 Doooooooood, OK I’ll play. Here’s my resume, starting at age 13:

    13-15: Hawked concessions in the stands at concerts and sporting events, earning 2 cents for each item I sold. The most financially lucrative events were college football games, where selling glasses of ice was prohibited by law, but “well appreciated,” and weekday Holiday on Ice performances. I’d ditch school after (the free) lunch, and be one of the few hawkers there. I often saw the school authoritahs there, but they ignored me. They knew I was truant, but also knew I needed the cash.

    16: Part time job at a convenience store owned by the same dude with the concessions contracts. He trusted me, and I looked like I was old enough to sell alcohol. Disappointed many high school pals when I refused to sell it to them.

    17: Full time graveyard shift at a 7-11 store. I lied about my age.

    17: Full time gig at a radio station. Got off at 6am, high school band practice at 0700.

    20: Started doing all the engineering work at my “home” station, and helping out at others.

    22: Graduated from college, immediately hired by a large information technology outfit.

    Today: Ain’t been laid off, yet.

  108. bob42 Avatar

    #54 Doooooooood, OK I’ll play. Here’s my resume, starting at age 13:
    13-15: Hawked concessions in the stands at concerts and sporting events, earning 2 cents for each item I sold. The most financially lucrative events were college football games, where selling glasses of ice was prohibited by law, but “well appreciated,” and weekday Holiday on Ice performances. I’d ditch school after (the free) lunch, and be one of the few hawkers there. I often saw the school authoritahs there, but they ignored me. They knew I was truant, but also knew I needed the cash.
    16: Part time job at a convenience store owned by the same dude with the concessions contracts. He trusted me, and I looked like I was old enough to sell alcohol. Disappointed many high school pals when I refused to sell it to them.
    17: Full time graveyard shift at a 7-11 store. I lied about my age.
    17: Full time gig at a radio station. Got off at 6am, high school band practice at 0700.
    20: Started doing all the engineering work at my “home” station, and helping out at others.
    22: Graduated from college, immediately hired by a large information technology outfit.
    Today: Ain’t been laid off, yet.

  109. El Gordo Avatar

    Heh! You sure about the retired part?

    8^)

  110. Dooood Avatar

    Heh! You sure about the retired part?
    8^)

  111. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    60 Dude
    Yeah, pretty much.
    Like the song says, I can’t stand the pain…

  112. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    60 Dude
    Yeah, pretty much.
    Like the song says, I can’t stand the pain…

  113. El Gordo Avatar

    I do understand Shannon. Jerry speaks for me: “What a loooong, strange trip it’s been…”

  114. Dooood Avatar

    I do understand Shannon. Jerry speaks for me: “What a loooong, strange trip it’s been…”

  115. duhmoose Avatar
    duhmoose

    Started age 16 (apparently a late bloomer around here)
    1. Mowed lawns
    2. Tested gene sequencing chips (unpaid internship)
    3. Computer repair store (basic repair duties)
    4. Meat wrapper at Krogers
    5. IT support guy/gopher/delivery guy for real estate management company
    6. System technician
    7. Pharmacy Tech
    Graduated College
    8. High School teacher
    9. sys admin
    10. IT manager
    11. Software developer/consultant/implementation manager

  116. duhmoose Avatar
    duhmoose

    Started age 16 (apparently a late bloomer around here)
    1. Mowed lawns
    2. Tested gene sequencing chips (unpaid internship)
    3. Computer repair store (basic repair duties)
    4. Meat wrapper at Krogers
    5. IT support guy/gopher/delivery guy for real estate management company
    6. System technician
    7. Pharmacy Tech
    Graduated College
    8. High School teacher
    9. sys admin
    10. IT manager
    11. Software developer/consultant/implementation manager

  117. Katfish Avatar

    The State of New Hampshire is considering legislation to make:

    the touching or viewing with a technological device of a person’s breasts or genitals by a government security agent without probable cause a sexual assault.

    In this case, someone found in violation of the statue would be a “Tier III” sex offender, requiring lifetime registry with the state. Furthermore:

    the following shall not constitute probable cause: discussing or possessing a copy of the Constitution, discussing the security apparatus of an airport, being on the premises of an airport, possessing an airplane ticket or any other type of ticket for access to mass transportation, driving a motor vehicle on a public way, or ownership of firearms.

  118. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    The State of New Hampshire is considering legislation to make:

    the touching or viewing with a technological device of a person’s breasts or genitals by a government security agent without probable cause a sexual assault.

    In this case, someone found in violation of the statue would be a “Tier III” sex offender, requiring lifetime registry with the state. Furthermore:

    the following shall not constitute probable cause: discussing or possessing a copy of the Constitution, discussing the security apparatus of an airport, being on the premises of an airport, possessing an airplane ticket or any other type of ticket for access to mass transportation, driving a motor vehicle on a public way, or ownership of firearms.

  119. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    Houston Comical bicycle delivery
    dishwasher (age 12 – lied about my age to start at IHOP)
    cook
    kitchen mgr (by age 18 even)
    heavy equipment operator
    plumbing tech for polybutylene re-plumbing jobs
    drywall repair (included hang / tape / finish / texture)
    HEADON crash survivor (yes I was the guy on the motorcycle)
    freight broker
    primary contact for a BACA child (multiples)

    Somewhere along the cook / kitchen mgr era also a fairly profitable drug dealer / user
    semi-retired party animal (snikker)

  120. Katfish Avatar

    Houston Comical bicycle delivery
    dishwasher (age 12 – lied about my age to start at IHOP)
    cook
    kitchen mgr (by age 18 even)
    heavy equipment operator
    plumbing tech for polybutylene re-plumbing jobs
    drywall repair (included hang / tape / finish / texture)
    HEADON crash survivor (yes I was the guy on the motorcycle)
    freight broker
    primary contact for a BACA child (multiples)
    Somewhere along the cook / kitchen mgr era also a fairly profitable drug dealer / user
    semi-retired party animal (snikker)

  121. Katfish Avatar

    HEADON crash survivor (yes I was the guy on the motorcycle)

    So THAT’s what happened to you.

  122. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    HEADON crash survivor (yes I was the guy on the motorcycle)

    So THAT’s what happened to you.

  123. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Start around age 13:

    Sold Christmas cards, garden seeds, vegetables from the garden, mowed lawns, shoveled snow.
    Carpenter’s helper
    Bus boy
    Dishwasher
    Shoe shine professional
    Military
    Portable building assembler
    Office manager for a Non-Profit
    Hardware store salesman
    BBQ Restaurant server/cook
    the next 35 years is taken up wiht being a Structural Steel Detailer, with about 8 years of that in a supervisory position, and the last 15 being self employed contractor.

  124. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Start around age 13:
    Sold Christmas cards, garden seeds, vegetables from the garden, mowed lawns, shoveled snow.
    Carpenter’s helper
    Bus boy
    Dishwasher
    Shoe shine professional
    Military
    Portable building assembler
    Office manager for a Non-Profit
    Hardware store salesman
    BBQ Restaurant server/cook
    the next 35 years is taken up wiht being a Structural Steel Detailer, with about 8 years of that in a supervisory position, and the last 15 being self employed contractor.

  125. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #65 Katfish Konnection, ya might want to check out those pesky statutes of limitations before incriminating yourself too much. 😉

  126. bob42 Avatar

    #65 Katfish Konnection, ya might want to check out those pesky statutes of limitations before incriminating yourself too much. 😉

  127. Hamous Avatar

    about age 6 I had a lemonade stand with my best friend PFMIII.
    About 12 I started cutting lawns
    15 washing dishes at the Holiday Inn which used to be on I-10 near Bunker Hill
    16-18 various restaurant busboy jobs
    17-18 grunt at a equipment rental store
    some college
    roustabout on offshore drilling platform
    some more college
    re-builder of oil jars (fishing tools) for Bowen tools
    some more college
    used car sales
    finally graduate college
    broker for bulk liquid transport, primarily barges, along gulf coast
    salesman for ocean freight, containers and break-bulk.
    Pain therapist, and still am to date
    Turd wrangler, worked for a company that cleaned sewers. I quit because it was a crappy job.
    driver/assistant for elderly gentleman

  128. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    about age 6 I had a lemonade stand with my best friend PFMIII.
    About 12 I started cutting lawns
    15 washing dishes at the Holiday Inn which used to be on I-10 near Bunker Hill
    16-18 various restaurant busboy jobs
    17-18 grunt at a equipment rental store
    some college
    roustabout on offshore drilling platform
    some more college
    re-builder of oil jars (fishing tools) for Bowen tools
    some more college
    used car sales
    finally graduate college
    broker for bulk liquid transport, primarily barges, along gulf coast
    salesman for ocean freight, containers and break-bulk.
    Pain therapist, and still am to date
    Turd wrangler, worked for a company that cleaned sewers. I quit because it was a crappy job.
    driver/assistant for elderly gentleman

  129. Katfish Avatar

    Idiot Congressional Black Caucus members claim GOP-sponsored budget bill would:

    threaten to bring the U.S. back to a time when “America was not in her finest hour, a time when the poor, the rural and people of color were denied equal opportunities to education, healthcare, jobs with decent wages and protections, and the possibility of homeownership. We cannot and must not go back there.”

    Wow. This budget must be making some really severe cuts to bring the US back to the early 1800’s.

    Oops. My bad. It takes spending back to the dark, dark days of 2008.

  130. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Idiot Congressional Black Caucus members claim GOP-sponsored budget bill would:

    threaten to bring the U.S. back to a time when “America was not in her finest hour, a time when the poor, the rural and people of color were denied equal opportunities to education, healthcare, jobs with decent wages and protections, and the possibility of homeownership. We cannot and must not go back there.”

    Wow. This budget must be making some really severe cuts to bring the US back to the early 1800’s.
    Oops. My bad. It takes spending back to the dark, dark days of 2008.

  131. Katfish Avatar

    some college…
    some more college…
    some more college…
    finally graduate college

    Slow learner? 😉

  132. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    some college…
    some more college…
    some more college…
    finally graduate college

    Slow learner? 😉

  133. Hamous Avatar

    Pyro #70: How about an immediate cut back to 2006 levels of spending? The economy is shrinking, the population is relatively stable in numbers, why the WISS is the gov’t still growing? ALL THE STAFF INCREASES under peebo need to be erased.

  134. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Pyro #70: How about an immediate cut back to 2006 levels of spending? The economy is shrinking, the population is relatively stable in numbers, why the WISS is the gov’t still growing? ALL THE STAFF INCREASES under peebo need to be erased.

  135. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #66 –

    HEADON crash survivor (yes I was the guy on the motorcycle)

    So THAT’s what happened to you.

    HEH – Shannon can testify I was already like THIS decades before I took on that Dodge Ram and lost in Aug of 2000…………….

  136. Katfish Avatar

    #66 –

    HEADON crash survivor (yes I was the guy on the motorcycle)

    So THAT’s what happened to you.

    HEH – Shannon can testify I was already like THIS decades before I took on that Dodge Ram and lost in Aug of 2000…………….

  137. El Gordo Avatar

    It takes spending back to the dark, dark days of 2008.

    You’re obviously a racist. You said “dark, dark”. I know your codespeak well.

    /

  138. Dooood Avatar

    It takes spending back to the dark, dark days of 2008.

    You’re obviously a racist. You said “dark, dark”. I know your codespeak well.
    /

  139. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    Started at age 12 (hey it was a family business!)

    * Pest Control Technician Assistant
    * Licensed Pest Control Technician
    * Garage Door Assembler
    * Sales Person at Radio Shack
    * Welder (stick and MIG)
    * Pump System Assembler/Shop Foreman
    * Production Supervisor for Chemical Formulator
    * Government Relations Manager
    * Marketing Manager
    * Environmental Health & Safety Director
    * Assistant Media Director at a Church
    * TV Station Camera Operator
    * TV Station Audio Engineer
    * Master Control Director for Fox Sports
    * College Instructor

    Along the way I’ve never missed an opportunity to grab freelance work that came along. I’ve taken gigs as a carpenter, recording engineer, sheetrock hanger, wedding photographer (and videographer), bass player, live sound engineer, and once (when money was tight and we were hurting) sweeping out warehouses.

    Today if I’m not teaching, I’ll be working on a film or TV show as Director, Sound Mixer, Editor, or DIT.

  140. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    Started at age 12 (hey it was a family business!)
    * Pest Control Technician Assistant
    * Licensed Pest Control Technician
    * Garage Door Assembler
    * Sales Person at Radio Shack
    * Welder (stick and MIG)
    * Pump System Assembler/Shop Foreman
    * Production Supervisor for Chemical Formulator
    * Government Relations Manager
    * Marketing Manager
    * Environmental Health & Safety Director
    * Assistant Media Director at a Church
    * TV Station Camera Operator
    * TV Station Audio Engineer
    * Master Control Director for Fox Sports
    * College Instructor
    Along the way I’ve never missed an opportunity to grab freelance work that came along. I’ve taken gigs as a carpenter, recording engineer, sheetrock hanger, wedding photographer (and videographer), bass player, live sound engineer, and once (when money was tight and we were hurting) sweeping out warehouses.
    Today if I’m not teaching, I’ll be working on a film or TV show as Director, Sound Mixer, Editor, or DIT.

  141. Katfish Avatar

    How about an immediate cut back to 2006 levels of spending?

    I’m good with mid-90’s levels for everything except Defense.

  142. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    How about an immediate cut back to 2006 levels of spending?

    I’m good with mid-90’s levels for everything except Defense.

  143. Hamous Avatar

    Pyro: Not a slow learner, I just could not have cared less about college, inside the class room that is. I got a degree in marketing from U of H, and what I learned there can be summed up as ‘find out what the customer wants and give it to him’, in the management section it was ‘don’t produce past the point of diminishing marginal returns’. The material in the business school was ‘less than interesting’. If I could have kept away from the EVIL WISSING PLANT I prolly would have a dual degree in mech/chem engineering.
    Being consumed by “I don’t give a schlitt” is not compatible with scholastic excellence. Add to that being ADD/HD and not having the luxury of Microsoft word, it made school really tough.

  144. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Pyro: Not a slow learner, I just could not have cared less about college, inside the class room that is. I got a degree in marketing from U of H, and what I learned there can be summed up as ‘find out what the customer wants and give it to him’, in the management section it was ‘don’t produce past the point of diminishing marginal returns’. The material in the business school was ‘less than interesting’. If I could have kept away from the EVIL WISSING PLANT I prolly would have a dual degree in mech/chem engineering.
    Being consumed by “I don’t give a schlitt” is not compatible with scholastic excellence. Add to that being ADD/HD and not having the luxury of Microsoft word, it made school really tough.

  145. Tedtam Avatar

    I’ve held relatively few jobs compared to Doood. Much of my younger life was limited by transportation issues. I didn’t have a car until Hubby rebuilt a VW for me when I was 19. I was going to college on a full-ride scholarship that required full-time school attendance and good grades. It paid for everything, so I could focus on my school work. Beginning my junior year, I became very involved in several campus organizations, one of them professional. I was the President/VP/Sec/Treasurer of our Association for Personnel Administrators – so my plate was very, very full.

    Age:
    16 – Astroworld fast food worker
    18 – office clerical worker – corporate downtown – summer position (before college)
    19-21 – I remember one summer job typing theses in the geology department, and another PT summer job in the Seafood Technology Department at Texas A&M (typing and training another FT employee on the word processor).
    22 – Low level mgmt / Personnel dept of local airline; taught myself Focus programming
    23 – phone reservations (was not being promoted and got tired of my boss making promises he wasn’t able to keep); 6 months
    23 – Still in reservations, I was pulled back to HQ to be right hand of reservations training
    24 – Went to financial planning dept of airline as programmer
    25- Began career in contract programming; worked at various companies developing computer applications, most of them in personnel
    30 – Andersen Consulting; special resource programmer
    34 – back into contract programming
    37 – Began working w/Hubby, running our business and being a Mommy

    I’ve worked a lot of places, but not a lot of different jobs.

  146. Tedtam Avatar

    I’ve held relatively few jobs compared to Doood. Much of my younger life was limited by transportation issues. I didn’t have a car until Hubby rebuilt a VW for me when I was 19. I was going to college on a full-ride scholarship that required full-time school attendance and good grades. It paid for everything, so I could focus on my school work. Beginning my junior year, I became very involved in several campus organizations, one of them professional. I was the President/VP/Sec/Treasurer of our Association for Personnel Administrators – so my plate was very, very full.
    Age:
    16 – Astroworld fast food worker
    18 – office clerical worker – corporate downtown – summer position (before college)
    19-21 – I remember one summer job typing theses in the geology department, and another PT summer job in the Seafood Technology Department at Texas A&M (typing and training another FT employee on the word processor).
    22 – Low level mgmt / Personnel dept of local airline; taught myself Focus programming
    23 – phone reservations (was not being promoted and got tired of my boss making promises he wasn’t able to keep); 6 months
    23 – Still in reservations, I was pulled back to HQ to be right hand of reservations training
    24 – Went to financial planning dept of airline as programmer
    25- Began career in contract programming; worked at various companies developing computer applications, most of them in personnel
    30 – Andersen Consulting; special resource programmer
    34 – back into contract programming
    37 – Began working w/Hubby, running our business and being a Mommy
    I’ve worked a lot of places, but not a lot of different jobs.

  147. El Gordo Avatar

    Interesting job histories. Thanks for playing along. I’d give out lovely parting gifts but I ain’t got none.

  148. Dooood Avatar

    Interesting job histories. Thanks for playing along. I’d give out lovely parting gifts but I ain’t got none.

  149. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Dude
    ….but I will be raising the traditional glass at High Noon tomorrow for the big 175th birthday, along with Texans around the world. 🙂

  150. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Dude
    ….but I will be raising the traditional glass at High Noon tomorrow for the big 175th birthday, along with Texans around the world. 🙂

  151. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #80 – Since WHEN did you start buying beer in bottles??

  152. Katfish Avatar

    #80 – Since WHEN did you start buying beer in bottles??

  153. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    As far back as I can remember, Farm Hand
    15 TV Shop
    19 Got out of tech school.
    19 radar repairman/operator, Florida
    20 Avionics technician, comuter ariline, Georgia.
    24 OEM tech rep for Narco Avionics, Georgia/Kansas
    28 Avionics technician, comuter ariline, Kansas
    29 Avionics technician, FBO Hobby Airport.
    31 NASA technician/manager to date.

  154. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    As far back as I can remember, Farm Hand
    15 TV Shop
    19 Got out of tech school.
    19 radar repairman/operator, Florida
    20 Avionics technician, comuter ariline, Georgia.
    24 OEM tech rep for Narco Avionics, Georgia/Kansas
    28 Avionics technician, comuter ariline, Kansas
    29 Avionics technician, FBO Hobby Airport.
    31 NASA technician/manager to date.

  155. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #77 Bones,

    If I could have kept away from the EVIL WISSING PLANT I prolly would have a dual degree in mech/chem engineering.

    Maybe if it had been illegal, you wouldn’t have been able to obtain it. 😉

    But seriously folks, when you look back on your life, as several of us have done here today, you are bound to wonder if you might be in a better condition had you not made this or that decision long ago. But to assume the potential “better condition” is to neglect the benefits of the lessons learned from those not-so-good decisions, or even good things that influenced you at the time.

    What counts is where you are and what you do today, and tomorrow. Various yesterdays all have one thing in common. They are gone, but remembered.

  156. bob42 Avatar

    #77 Bones,

    If I could have kept away from the EVIL WISSING PLANT I prolly would have a dual degree in mech/chem engineering.

    Maybe if it had been illegal, you wouldn’t have been able to obtain it. 😉
    But seriously folks, when you look back on your life, as several of us have done here today, you are bound to wonder if you might be in a better condition had you not made this or that decision long ago. But to assume the potential “better condition” is to neglect the benefits of the lessons learned from those not-so-good decisions, or even good things that influenced you at the time.
    What counts is where you are and what you do today, and tomorrow. Various yesterdays all have one thing in common. They are gone, but remembered.

  157. SC Avatar
    SC

    16 Roofer
    19 tire buster
    some school
    20 pipe drafting
    21—–pipe drafter/preoject manager/estimator/VP. 33 years yesterday

  158. SC Avatar
    SC

    16 Roofer
    19 tire buster
    some school
    20 pipe drafting
    21—–pipe drafter/preoject manager/estimator/VP. 33 years yesterday

  159. SC Avatar
    SC

    Oh, and for Katfish, crash in 1981. Used to be an inch taller.

  160. SC Avatar
    SC

    Oh, and for Katfish, crash in 1981. Used to be an inch taller.

  161. Katfish Avatar

    Since WHEN did you start buying beer in bottles??

    He said glass. You can pour beer from a can into a glass (it actually tastes better; “better” being relative).

    philistine

  162. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Since WHEN did you start buying beer in bottles??

    He said glass. You can pour beer from a can into a glass (it actually tastes better; “better” being relative).
    philistine

  163. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    86
    Or maybe I’ll fool him and drink something colorless…..out of Mason jar. 🙂

  164. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    86
    Or maybe I’ll fool him and drink something colorless…..out of Mason jar. 🙂

  165. SC Avatar
    SC

    87 watch that stuff, you’ll go blind.

  166. SC Avatar
    SC

    87 watch that stuff, you’ll go blind.

  167. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    1. Tool dispenser – When I was 6 yrs old, I would hand my Dad whatever tool he requested from underneath a washing machine, dryer, dishwasher, or oven. Dad owned his own appliance repair business.
    2. Mowed lawns
    3. Computer lab assistant
    4. Mover
    5. Exterminator
    6. Assorted office gofer jobs
    7. Manufacturing Engineer
    8. Started a business from scratch
    9. Bought an existing business
    10. Engineer in the oil & gas industry

    Owning a business is simultaneously the most stressful and most rewarding thing you can do. Being the boss that is responsible for other people’s welfare (read payroll) is much more stressful than taking crappy orders from a supervisor or dealing with management’s myopic business strategies/visions.

    I will always tip my hat to the American small businessman/businesswoman and try to patronize their establishments or procure their services. I think most people, including Mr. Noodle Dipdunk from the O/C article, have a completely unrealistic idea of it takes to succeed in business. They think that money just appears in my account; therefore, I am rich. Never mind that I was willing to perform the nitty gritty, dirty jobs right along side my employees. Never mind that I had already sacrificed to save money to use as working capital. Never mind the 100 hour work weeks.

    If I had an employee like Mr. Noodle Dipdunk, they would have had to invent and name a new surgical procedure. This would be the removal of Mr. Noodle Dipdunk’s head and my boot from his stomach. Obviously his head was already up his A$$… ya’ll can figure out the rest.

  168. TexMo Avatar
    TexMo

    1. Tool dispenser – When I was 6 yrs old, I would hand my Dad whatever tool he requested from underneath a washing machine, dryer, dishwasher, or oven. Dad owned his own appliance repair business.
    2. Mowed lawns
    3. Computer lab assistant
    4. Mover
    5. Exterminator
    6. Assorted office gofer jobs
    7. Manufacturing Engineer
    8. Started a business from scratch
    9. Bought an existing business
    10. Engineer in the oil & gas industry
    Owning a business is simultaneously the most stressful and most rewarding thing you can do. Being the boss that is responsible for other people’s welfare (read payroll) is much more stressful than taking crappy orders from a supervisor or dealing with management’s myopic business strategies/visions.
    I will always tip my hat to the American small businessman/businesswoman and try to patronize their establishments or procure their services. I think most people, including Mr. Noodle Dipdunk from the O/C article, have a completely unrealistic idea of it takes to succeed in business. They think that money just appears in my account; therefore, I am rich. Never mind that I was willing to perform the nitty gritty, dirty jobs right along side my employees. Never mind that I had already sacrificed to save money to use as working capital. Never mind the 100 hour work weeks.
    If I had an employee like Mr. Noodle Dipdunk, they would have had to invent and name a new surgical procedure. This would be the removal of Mr. Noodle Dipdunk’s head and my boot from his stomach. Obviously his head was already up his A$$… ya’ll can figure out the rest.

  169. Hamous Avatar

    Mr. Lewis’ idea of how to run business was a chilling reflection of the scene from Ayn Rand’s Atlas Shrugged

    I think that a closer link to today’s reality with stars, the glitteratti, the former popularity of PEEBO, the whole elitist thang, etc is revealed in Ms. Rands earlier book, The Fountainhead. Ellsworth Tooey comes to mind as the editorial staff of the NYT, Washington compost, and just name a bunch of others.

  170. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Mr. Lewis’ idea of how to run business was a chilling reflection of the scene from Ayn Rand’s Atlas Shrugged

    I think that a closer link to today’s reality with stars, the glitteratti, the former popularity of PEEBO, the whole elitist thang, etc is revealed in Ms. Rands earlier book, The Fountainhead. Ellsworth Tooey comes to mind as the editorial staff of the NYT, Washington compost, and just name a bunch of others.

  171. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    From Bob

    But to assume the potential “better condition” is to neglect the benefits of the lessons learned from those not-so-good decisions, or even good things that influenced you at the time.

    What counts is where you are and what you do today, and tomorrow. Various yesterdays all have one thing in common. They are gone, but remembered.

    I have had my share of screw ups. I just call it lessons learned and move on.

  172. TexMo Avatar
    TexMo

    From Bob

    But to assume the potential “better condition” is to neglect the benefits of the lessons learned from those not-so-good decisions, or even good things that influenced you at the time.
    What counts is where you are and what you do today, and tomorrow. Various yesterdays all have one thing in common. They are gone, but remembered.

    I have had my share of screw ups. I just call it lessons learned and move on.

  173. El Gordo Avatar

    I will always tip my hat to the American small businessman/businesswoman and try to patronize their establishments or procure their services.

    Yes indeed. They are truly the lifeblood of the economy as far as I’m concerned.

  174. Dooood Avatar

    I will always tip my hat to the American small businessman/businesswoman and try to patronize their establishments or procure their services.

    Yes indeed. They are truly the lifeblood of the economy as far as I’m concerned.

  175. Hamous Avatar

    As far as screw-ups go, I have probably had way more than my share and with fewer negative consequences than I deserve. For example: getting clocked doing 119mph down I-10 and I managed to slow down from 136 before he saw me. I did not go to jail but was banned from the driver’s seat for a while. I have no doubt that going into massage therapy and treating pain was the correct decision for me at the time as that was the path to my sweet darling wife, Mrs. Bonecrusher and we have been married for 16 years after only 4 months of dating. I met her in the clinic and she was one of my clients. If I were way more financially successful, I don’t know whether or not I would have been able to be still enough to hear THE VOICE telling which direction to go. IN the big scheme of things, I have no complaints; I AM BLESSED.

  176. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    As far as screw-ups go, I have probably had way more than my share and with fewer negative consequences than I deserve. For example: getting clocked doing 119mph down I-10 and I managed to slow down from 136 before he saw me. I did not go to jail but was banned from the driver’s seat for a while. I have no doubt that going into massage therapy and treating pain was the correct decision for me at the time as that was the path to my sweet darling wife, Mrs. Bonecrusher and we have been married for 16 years after only 4 months of dating. I met her in the clinic and she was one of my clients. If I were way more financially successful, I don’t know whether or not I would have been able to be still enough to hear THE VOICE telling which direction to go. IN the big scheme of things, I have no complaints; I AM BLESSED.

  177. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    It is now safe for Doood to go into outer space.

    With the space tourism industry preparing for take off as early as next year — Saber Astronautics Australia teamed up with the Four Pines Brewing Company to develop the very first beer that can be consumed safely in space.

    Jaron Mitchell, the founder of Four Pines, said the creation of space beer was an event for the history books.

    “Wherever humans have journeyed or conquest to throughout history in the last few thousand years, we first worry about water, food, shelter and clothing,” he told news.com.au.

    “In many cases beer is the next consideration soon after the above four.

  178. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    It is now safe for Doood to go into outer space.

    With the space tourism industry preparing for take off as early as next year — Saber Astronautics Australia teamed up with the Four Pines Brewing Company to develop the very first beer that can be consumed safely in space.
    Jaron Mitchell, the founder of Four Pines, said the creation of space beer was an event for the history books.
    “Wherever humans have journeyed or conquest to throughout history in the last few thousand years, we first worry about water, food, shelter and clothing,” he told news.com.au.
    “In many cases beer is the next consideration soon after the above four.

  179. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Tomorrow is Texas Independence Day. Is it time for another Declaration of Independence?

  180. El Gordo Avatar

    Tomorrow is Texas Independence Day. Is it time for another Declaration of Independence?

  181. El Gordo Avatar

    In many cases beer is the next consideration soon after the above four.

    After?

    🙂

  182. Dooood Avatar

    In many cases beer is the next consideration soon after the above four.

    After?
    🙂

  183. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    #35
    bobby

    In the second place, the story in your linkie is far from unique. DOMA and similar state laws disadvantage same sex couples in over a thousand different ways

    Which wouldn’t be the case with civil unions, which I believe would have little resistance. But that’s not what we talk about is it? We talk about same sex marriage. Given same sex marriage, the issue would become marriage to both a man and a woman for the “B’s” in the GLBT community. Given that, the freaky “T’s” would want to marry whatever they wanted to marry and by that time NAMBLA would be fully under the fold and man/boy relationships should surely be certified, no?

    Everyone would have their line somewhere in that path, I’m fine where it is now.

    BTW, the same argument goes for the war on the plant, the plant gets legalized and the fight simply moves on to the next illegal drug.

  184. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #35
    bobby

    In the second place, the story in your linkie is far from unique. DOMA and similar state laws disadvantage same sex couples in over a thousand different ways

    Which wouldn’t be the case with civil unions, which I believe would have little resistance. But that’s not what we talk about is it? We talk about same sex marriage. Given same sex marriage, the issue would become marriage to both a man and a woman for the “B’s” in the GLBT community. Given that, the freaky “T’s” would want to marry whatever they wanted to marry and by that time NAMBLA would be fully under the fold and man/boy relationships should surely be certified, no?
    Everyone would have their line somewhere in that path, I’m fine where it is now.
    BTW, the same argument goes for the war on the plant, the plant gets legalized and the fight simply moves on to the next illegal drug.

  185. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    I couldn’t figure out how best to organize my job list because there was just too much detail. So I eliminated most of the “little bit of college here and there” and numerous short-term jobs. Also skipped age after 20 because my memory isn’t that good. 🙂

    14-17 – babysitter
    15 – egg collector at a chicken factory farm in Midland
    17 – part time librarian while in high school
    18-20 – US Army medical corps
    various chem lab tech jobs
    US Geological Survey (5 yrs)
    illustrator for archeologist
    TA, RA while in graduate school
    software developer (20 yrs)
    Contract software tester (10 yrs so far)

  186. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    I couldn’t figure out how best to organize my job list because there was just too much detail. So I eliminated most of the “little bit of college here and there” and numerous short-term jobs. Also skipped age after 20 because my memory isn’t that good. 🙂
    14-17 – babysitter
    15 – egg collector at a chicken factory farm in Midland
    17 – part time librarian while in high school
    18-20 – US Army medical corps
    various chem lab tech jobs
    US Geological Survey (5 yrs)
    illustrator for archeologist
    TA, RA while in graduate school
    software developer (20 yrs)
    Contract software tester (10 yrs so far)

  187. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Public Union workers:

    My brother works with the HFD, he is more of a right wing nut job than me. Until it comes to his union. We don’t talk about it. My sister is a secretary in the local school district, same thing. She has to share a stapler with a co-worker because… *coff coff*…they are so strapped for funding.

    It’s a mind set, I think everyone believes public services, where possible, would be better done in the private sector. If you think about it, that explains a lot.

  188. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Public Union workers:
    My brother works with the HFD, he is more of a right wing nut job than me. Until it comes to his union. We don’t talk about it. My sister is a secretary in the local school district, same thing. She has to share a stapler with a co-worker because… *coff coff*…they are so strapped for funding.
    It’s a mind set, I think everyone believes public services, where possible, would be better done in the private sector. If you think about it, that explains a lot.

  189. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    12-13 babysitting biz with my female cousin, hey it was money
    13-16 convience store, Dairy Queen, Church’s, KFC
    16-17 got my big show biz break-gas station attendent
    17-18 apartment complex maintenance/lawns/pool
    18 make ready-car dealership, heavy industrial engine mechanic
    18-32 oil field rig manufacturer/service company- mechanic, shop foreman, service mgr
    32-present construction equipment service, sales, rental

  190. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    12-13 babysitting biz with my female cousin, hey it was money
    13-16 convience store, Dairy Queen, Church’s, KFC
    16-17 got my big show biz break-gas station attendent
    17-18 apartment complex maintenance/lawns/pool
    18 make ready-car dealership, heavy industrial engine mechanic
    18-32 oil field rig manufacturer/service company- mechanic, shop foreman, service mgr
    32-present construction equipment service, sales, rental

  191. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I really liked your personal background story, Tedtam.

  192. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I really liked your personal background story, Tedtam.

  193. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    SSGT USMC (a long time ago)

    Quit that job in pursuit of higher education. It was the best job that I have ever had and everything else has been 2nd best. It was the singular worst decision that I have ever made.

    There is no job in this world that compares to being a NCO in the Marines.

    Simple

  194. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    SSGT USMC (a long time ago)
    Quit that job in pursuit of higher education. It was the best job that I have ever had and everything else has been 2nd best. It was the singular worst decision that I have ever made.
    There is no job in this world that compares to being a NCO in the Marines.
    Simple

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