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On this day in 1776, the Continental Congress authorizes the first national Revolutionary War memorial in honor of Brigadier General Richard Montgomery, who had been killed during an assault on Quebec on December 31, 1775.
Montgomery, along with Benedict Arnold, led a two-pronged invasion of Canada in late 1775. Before joining Arnold at Quebec, Montgomery successfully took Montreal. But the Patriot assault on Quebec failed, and Montgomery became one of the first generals of the American Revolution to lose his life on the battlefield.
When word of his death reached Philadelphia, Congress voted to create a monument to Montgomery’s memory and entrusted Benjamin Franklin to secure one of France’s best artists to craft it. Franklin hired King Louis XV’s personal sculptor, Jean Jacques Caffieri, to design and build the monument.
Upon its completion in 1778, the Montgomery memorial was shipped to America and arrived at Edenton, North Carolina, where it remained for several years. Although originally intended for Independence Hall in Philadelphia, Congress eventually decided to place the memorial in New York City. In 1788, it was installed under the direction of Major Pierre Charles L’Enfant beneath the portico of St. Paul’s Chapel, which served as George Washington’s church during his time in New York as the United States’ first president in 1789, and where it remains to this day. Montgomery’s body, which was originally interred on the site of his death in Quebec, was moved to St. Paul’s in 1818.
Caffieri also completed a bust of Franklin. Franklin gave seven copies of the bust to friends in the new United States; the original remains in Paris at the Bibliotheque Mazarine.


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  1. Katfish Avatar

    Who cares about that guy? He’s yet another dead white European male. We should be honoring people like that great ancestor of mine, Watches Ground Crack. WGC and his son Picks Navel Lint founded a dynasty that lasted for generations (at least two or three) among my people.

    You’re just another oppressor trying to keep your boot heel on my neck.

  2. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Who cares about that guy? He’s yet another dead white European male. We should be honoring people like that great ancestor of mine, Watches Ground Crack. WGC and his son Picks Navel Lint founded a dynasty that lasted for generations (at least two or three) among my people.
    You’re just another oppressor trying to keep your boot heel on my neck.

  3. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Wagon, Don’t forget Chief Alexander Graham Bellfeathers, the first indian to call ahead for a reservation. 🙂

  4. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Wagon, Don’t forget Chief Alexander Graham Bellfeathers, the first indian to call ahead for a reservation. 🙂

  5. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Watches Ground Crack

    Wasn’t he related to Watches Plumber’s Crack?

  6. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Watches Ground Crack

    Wasn’t he related to Watches Plumber’s Crack?

  7. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Just imagine the fancy teepees we’d have throughout this land today if only the redskinn’ed had been left alone.

    Bless the two legged, the four legged, the slither’ers and the winged.

  8. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Just imagine the fancy teepees we’d have throughout this land today if only the redskinn’ed had been left alone.
    Bless the two legged, the four legged, the slither’ers and the winged.

  9. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    My brother is quite proud of his “keyless” car. A keyring fob detects a signal transmitted by the car when its nearby, and sends a signal to unlock the door. When inside, the car is started by pressing a button.

    I thought to myself, it won’t be long before someone hacks this arrangement. It wasn’t.

    The researchers tested a few scenarios. An attacker could watch a parking lot and have an accomplice watch as car owners as entered a nearby store. The accomplice would only need to be within eight meters of the targeted owner’s key fob, making it easy to avoid arousing suspicion. In another scenario, a car owner might leave a car key on a table near a window. An antenna placed outside the house was able to communicate with the key, allowing the researchers then to start the car parked out front and drive away.

  10. bob42 Avatar

    My brother is quite proud of his “keyless” car. A keyring fob detects a signal transmitted by the car when its nearby, and sends a signal to unlock the door. When inside, the car is started by pressing a button.
    I thought to myself, it won’t be long before someone hacks this arrangement. It wasn’t.

    The researchers tested a few scenarios. An attacker could watch a parking lot and have an accomplice watch as car owners as entered a nearby store. The accomplice would only need to be within eight meters of the targeted owner’s key fob, making it easy to avoid arousing suspicion. In another scenario, a car owner might leave a car key on a table near a window. An antenna placed outside the house was able to communicate with the key, allowing the researchers then to start the car parked out front and drive away.

  11. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    While motorcycle riding in New Zealand couple of years ago one of the group had a key like that on his rented harley. Lost the key going down the highway on the way to return the bike. The bike would continue to run, but if he shut it off, he was done. Fortunately harley only makes so many keys that fit the fuel tank and we had one or he would have been really done.
    All this new technology is just something else to break down, get lost or stolen. Give me a simple machine without the bells and whistles. Something I can fix myself.

  12. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    While motorcycle riding in New Zealand couple of years ago one of the group had a key like that on his rented harley. Lost the key going down the highway on the way to return the bike. The bike would continue to run, but if he shut it off, he was done. Fortunately harley only makes so many keys that fit the fuel tank and we had one or he would have been really done.
    All this new technology is just something else to break down, get lost or stolen. Give me a simple machine without the bells and whistles. Something I can fix myself.

  13. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Well, how about that SOTU speech? Here we have real unemployment somewhere between 17 and 20%, we’ve almost doubled our national debt in the past 24 months (with nothing to show for the trillions pixxed away), our major economic activities have either been shut down (energy production) or nationalized, and our foreign policy is acknowledged by the rest of the world as a joke.

    So, what will we talk about? There’s the hero’s of Tucson, what I did on my vacations, can’t we all just sing kumbaya and get along, and the age old statement about not being willing to rest until everyone who wants a job has one. Think I’ll be too busy picking out my belly button lint to watch.

  14. El Gordo Avatar

    Well, how about that SOTU speech? Here we have real unemployment somewhere between 17 and 20%, we’ve almost doubled our national debt in the past 24 months (with nothing to show for the trillions pixxed away), our major economic activities have either been shut down (energy production) or nationalized, and our foreign policy is acknowledged by the rest of the world as a joke.
    So, what will we talk about? There’s the hero’s of Tucson, what I did on my vacations, can’t we all just sing kumbaya and get along, and the age old statement about not being willing to rest until everyone who wants a job has one. Think I’ll be too busy picking out my belly button lint to watch.

  15. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Oh, I almost forgot – don’t we still have a couple of wars going on too?

  16. El Gordo Avatar

    Oh, I almost forgot – don’t we still have a couple of wars going on too?

  17. Tedtam Avatar

    I’m having a hard time waking up this morning, and I thought I was dreaming when I saw this on Drudge.

    Could it be true? Are the libs really that….that…..that….. so sure of themselves (to put it politely). If only they could, if only they would!

  18. Tedtam Avatar

    I’m having a hard time waking up this morning, and I thought I was dreaming when I saw this on Drudge.
    Could it be true? Are the libs really that….that…..that….. so sure of themselves (to put it politely). If only they could, if only they would!

  19. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    One a more serious note, appropos of the subject (or at least the one it was changed to by Conestoga Torcher), I recently finished reading Empire of The Summer Moon. It gives us a history of Texas and the Comanche using the story of Cynthia Ann and Quanah Parker. I highly recommend as it is very readable and well researched.

    Mentioned in thew book is that Texas school children were tajught about the treaty Quahnah negotiated with Charles Goodnight. I’m curious: what grade that was taught, and is it still being taught today?

  20. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    One a more serious note, appropos of the subject (or at least the one it was changed to by Conestoga Torcher), I recently finished reading Empire of The Summer Moon. It gives us a history of Texas and the Comanche using the story of Cynthia Ann and Quanah Parker. I highly recommend as it is very readable and well researched.
    Mentioned in thew book is that Texas school children were tajught about the treaty Quahnah negotiated with Charles Goodnight. I’m curious: what grade that was taught, and is it still being taught today?

  21. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    All this new technology is just something else to break down, get lost or stolen. Give me a simple machine without the bells and whistles. Something I can fix myself.

    I saw a commercial for one of the new electric cars the other day that mentioned that it only took $1.50 worth of electricity to charge up. I made me ask myself this question (which I doubt anynof the proud new eco-weenie owners on the Gulf Coast have asked themselves:

    What do they do for transportation in the two weeks or so after a hurrican knocks out the power?

    Not only can I fill both cars with gas before the hurricane hits thus using one for gas storage and the other for transpo) I can store 20 gallons of gas in my garage to use after that 40 gallons is gone. I can even use that to drive to a place where the power to run the gas pumps isn’t out and buy gas there.

    From what I understand about the range of these roller skates, that’s not really an option, and storing extra batteries is reeeeeeaaaalllly expensive.

    And what happens on thier way out of town during the evacuation when the roads are clogged up?

  22. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    All this new technology is just something else to break down, get lost or stolen. Give me a simple machine without the bells and whistles. Something I can fix myself.

    I saw a commercial for one of the new electric cars the other day that mentioned that it only took $1.50 worth of electricity to charge up. I made me ask myself this question (which I doubt anynof the proud new eco-weenie owners on the Gulf Coast have asked themselves:
    What do they do for transportation in the two weeks or so after a hurrican knocks out the power?
    Not only can I fill both cars with gas before the hurricane hits thus using one for gas storage and the other for transpo) I can store 20 gallons of gas in my garage to use after that 40 gallons is gone. I can even use that to drive to a place where the power to run the gas pumps isn’t out and buy gas there.
    From what I understand about the range of these roller skates, that’s not really an option, and storing extra batteries is reeeeeeaaaalllly expensive.
    And what happens on thier way out of town during the evacuation when the roads are clogged up?

  23. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Some Indian history to appease the Savage:

    January 26, 1716: Cherokee Chief Caesar has told the English in South Carolina that he will never fight them and that the Creeks want peace, also. Today, 16 Creek and Yamassee representatives arrive at Tugaloo, a Cherokee village in Georgia. The Creeks urge the Cherokees to join them in an attack on South Carolina settlements. This so angers the Cherokees that the representatives are killed.

    How’d that work out for ya, Caesar Neville?

  24. Hamous Avatar

    Some Indian history to appease the Savage:

    January 26, 1716: Cherokee Chief Caesar has told the English in South Carolina that he will never fight them and that the Creeks want peace, also. Today, 16 Creek and Yamassee representatives arrive at Tugaloo, a Cherokee village in Georgia. The Creeks urge the Cherokees to join them in an attack on South Carolina settlements. This so angers the Cherokees that the representatives are killed.

    How’d that work out for ya, Caesar Neville?

  25. Dooood Avatar

    Texas history was a required subject of every seventh grader when I was in school.

  26. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    Texas history was a required subject of every seventh grader when I was in school.

  27. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Joe Straus is already snubbing Tea Partiers, and 80% of the voters in Texas, with the way he’s approaching Voter ID, just as his past performance suggested he would:

    Rep. Wayne Christian (R) from Center, TX, met with Tea Party Leaders this past weekend. Based upon this meeting as well as his previous talks with grassroots organizations, he decided to introduced two amendments to the rules on behalf of his constituents and these organizations. Both of the amendments failed.

    One was to take up Voter ID in a committee as a whole like the Senate is doing and push it through the House in order to get it passed quickly. Now, because this amendment failed, the House has to to wait for committee assignments to come out and for the bill to work its way through the committee before it can be heard on the House floor. Also, by not allowing the committee as a whole to take up Voter ID, this potentially gives Straus and his team much more power and influence with what type of Voter ID bill Texas ends up with. If it had been held on the floor of the House in committee with all 150 Representatives participating in a public hearing with invited and open testimony, the conservatives could have had a stronger say in the outcome of the bill by voting together as a block.

    If Joe Straus would get out of the way, we could have a good Voter ID bill on the Governor’s desk by the end of the month.

    I guess he thinks we haven’t been waiting long enough.

  28. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Joe Straus is already snubbing Tea Partiers, and 80% of the voters in Texas, with the way he’s approaching Voter ID, just as his past performance suggested he would:
    Rep. Wayne Christian (R) from Center, TX, met with Tea Party Leaders this past weekend. Based upon this meeting as well as his previous talks with grassroots organizations, he decided to introduced two amendments to the rules on behalf of his constituents and these organizations. Both of the amendments failed.

    One was to take up Voter ID in a committee as a whole like the Senate is doing and push it through the House in order to get it passed quickly. Now, because this amendment failed, the House has to to wait for committee assignments to come out and for the bill to work its way through the committee before it can be heard on the House floor. Also, by not allowing the committee as a whole to take up Voter ID, this potentially gives Straus and his team much more power and influence with what type of Voter ID bill Texas ends up with. If it had been held on the floor of the House in committee with all 150 Representatives participating in a public hearing with invited and open testimony, the conservatives could have had a stronger say in the outcome of the bill by voting together as a block.

    If Joe Straus would get out of the way, we could have a good Voter ID bill on the Governor’s desk by the end of the month.
    I guess he thinks we haven’t been waiting long enough.

  29. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Just curious. Now that some court in Chicago has ruled that Rahm is not eligible to run for Mayor, does anyone really believe that that ruling will stand? I submit that either the boodle was not sent in the right direction, or someone on the court just didn’t understand the message. In any event, I predict a quick reversal of this ruling in order to allow Lord Rahm to assume the mantle of Godfather.

  30. El Gordo Avatar

    Just curious. Now that some court in Chicago has ruled that Rahm is not eligible to run for Mayor, does anyone really believe that that ruling will stand? I submit that either the boodle was not sent in the right direction, or someone on the court just didn’t understand the message. In any event, I predict a quick reversal of this ruling in order to allow Lord Rahm to assume the mantle of Godfather.

  31. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Could it be true? Are the libs really that….that…..that….. so sure of themselves (to put it politely). If only they could, if only they would!

    Never underestimate the cluelessness of the liberal mind. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if Olbermann was the next Senator from Conn.

  32. Hamous Avatar

    Could it be true? Are the libs really that….that…..that….. so sure of themselves (to put it politely). If only they could, if only they would!

    Never underestimate the cluelessness of the liberal mind. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if Olbermann was the next Senator from Conn.

  33. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    REDDITCH Council has come under fire for plans to heat a leisure centre using waste energy from the town’s crematorium.

    Get it?
    Comes under fire…… crematorium.
    The story is pretty funny too.

    /I made a punny

  34. squawkbox Avatar

    REDDITCH Council has come under fire for plans to heat a leisure centre using waste energy from the town’s crematorium.

    Get it?
    Comes under fire…… crematorium.
    The story is pretty funny too.
    /I made a punny

  35. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I guess he thinks we haven’t been waiting long enough.

    Apparently so does Warren Chisum:

    But potential political points weren’t enough. Christian met a fearsome foe in state Rep. Warren Chisum—a fellow Republican who previously ran for Speaker of the House on an agenda of hardline conservatism. While Chisum supports voter ID legislation, he was upset by the change in process, which would cut out public participation. “You’re in favor of cutting out public participation in the bill?” Chisum asked.

    Christian argued that the bill had already seen plenty of public input, between the last legislative session and general feedback during the interim. Chisum disagreed. “I just think every legislative session ought to stand on its own,” Chisum said. “I suspect we haven’t heard it all—25 million people occupy Texas.” Christian wound up with a paltry 13 votes.

  36. Hamous Avatar

    I guess he thinks we haven’t been waiting long enough.

    Apparently so does Warren Chisum:

    But potential political points weren’t enough. Christian met a fearsome foe in state Rep. Warren Chisum—a fellow Republican who previously ran for Speaker of the House on an agenda of hardline conservatism. While Chisum supports voter ID legislation, he was upset by the change in process, which would cut out public participation. “You’re in favor of cutting out public participation in the bill?” Chisum asked.
    Christian argued that the bill had already seen plenty of public input, between the last legislative session and general feedback during the interim. Chisum disagreed. “I just think every legislative session ought to stand on its own,” Chisum said. “I suspect we haven’t heard it all—25 million people occupy Texas.” Christian wound up with a paltry 13 votes.

  37. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    I am thinkin’ maybe getting in on the ground floor of this idea.

    Bob42?

  38. squawkbox Avatar

    I am thinkin’ maybe getting in on the ground floor of this idea.
    Bob42?

  39. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Bob42 has gotten the ear of Vicente Fox. 😉

    As Mexico drowns in drug-related bloodshed — suffering almost 12,000 murders in 2010 — it is perhaps unsurprising that government critics have turned up their screaming that the war on drugs isn’t working. But it was a bit of a bombshell when former President Vicente Fox added his voice to the chorus.

    (circumcised)

    “Prohibition didn’t work in the Garden of Eden. Adam ate the apple,” says Fox, 68, looking relaxed in a polo shirt — in contrast to his stressful last days in office. “We have to take all the production chain out of the hands of criminals and into the hands of producers — so there are farmers that produce marijuana and manufacturers that process it and distributors that distribute it and shops that sell it …

    Read more: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2040882,00.html#ixzz1C3r173Hb

  40. squawkbox Avatar

    Bob42 has gotten the ear of Vicente Fox. 😉

    As Mexico drowns in drug-related bloodshed — suffering almost 12,000 murders in 2010 — it is perhaps unsurprising that government critics have turned up their screaming that the war on drugs isn’t working. But it was a bit of a bombshell when former President Vicente Fox added his voice to the chorus.

    (circumcised)

    “Prohibition didn’t work in the Garden of Eden. Adam ate the apple,” says Fox, 68, looking relaxed in a polo shirt — in contrast to his stressful last days in office. “We have to take all the production chain out of the hands of criminals and into the hands of producers — so there are farmers that produce marijuana and manufacturers that process it and distributors that distribute it and shops that sell it …

    Read more: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2040882,00.html#ixzz1C3r173Hb

  41. Tedtam Avatar

    Because I care for my mother, and because she occasionally orders from catalogs, I get unsolicited catalogs at my house. The latest one, Hammacher Schlemmer, claims “offering the Best, the Only, and the Unexpected for 163 Years”. Inside, I find:
    1) A genuine Turkish bathrobe
    2) A portable wood-burning hot tub $6,000
    3) A cockpit flight simulator $7,000
    4) Video recording ski goggles $249.95
    5) The Best Heated Blanket $99.95 twin size, $219.95 king
    6) Carpal tunnel preventing computer mouse $49.95
    7) Genuine handmade Irish shillelagh $54.95
    8) All sorts of problem correcting footwear, of varying styles
    9) Kneading foot massager $129.95 (that one actually looks like something I’d like – I love a good foot massage, and hubby doesn’t do it anymore)
    10) A 16 million color lamp $199.95
    11) The infrared heated massage table $399.95
    12) A weed whacking golf driver $59.95
    13) A specially designed front pocket wallet for men $49.95
    14) An indoor dog restroom mat $99.95 (replacement mat $49.95 )
    AND FINALLY – the item that triggered the desire for this post —

    15) Five axis mechanical core muscle trainer: $2000
    “This is the low-impact mechanical exerciser that methodically tilts across five axes to strengthen your core muscles…tilts back and forth, left to right, up and town, and twists in preprogrammed sequences, strengthening your thighs, buttocks, back and deep abdomen…The gentle swaying…changes your center of balance and, as you attempt to regain your equilibrium, your core muscles expand and contract. Ideal for both physically limited and experienced exercisers, the device allows you to conduct a 15 minute exercise routine while seated without creating excessive pressure and stress on joints. The exercise…also provide a beneficial aerobic workout…”

    Guys and gals, this is a very pretty mechanical bull. I am sure that if certain Hamsters were to buy this device, it would not be used for exercise, but would become the focus of some rather interesting alcohol-centered get-togethers, where macho men would see how much of both alcohol and bull they could handle.

  42. Tedtam Avatar

    Because I care for my mother, and because she occasionally orders from catalogs, I get unsolicited catalogs at my house. The latest one, Hammacher Schlemmer, claims “offering the Best, the Only, and the Unexpected for 163 Years”. Inside, I find:
    1) A genuine Turkish bathrobe
    2) A portable wood-burning hot tub $6,000
    3) A cockpit flight simulator $7,000
    4) Video recording ski goggles $249.95
    5) The Best Heated Blanket $99.95 twin size, $219.95 king
    6) Carpal tunnel preventing computer mouse $49.95
    7) Genuine handmade Irish shillelagh $54.95
    8) All sorts of problem correcting footwear, of varying styles
    9) Kneading foot massager $129.95 (that one actually looks like something I’d like – I love a good foot massage, and hubby doesn’t do it anymore)
    10) A 16 million color lamp $199.95
    11) The infrared heated massage table $399.95
    12) A weed whacking golf driver $59.95
    13) A specially designed front pocket wallet for men $49.95
    14) An indoor dog restroom mat $99.95 (replacement mat $49.95 )
    AND FINALLY – the item that triggered the desire for this post —
    15) Five axis mechanical core muscle trainer: $2000
    “This is the low-impact mechanical exerciser that methodically tilts across five axes to strengthen your core muscles…tilts back and forth, left to right, up and town, and twists in preprogrammed sequences, strengthening your thighs, buttocks, back and deep abdomen…The gentle swaying…changes your center of balance and, as you attempt to regain your equilibrium, your core muscles expand and contract. Ideal for both physically limited and experienced exercisers, the device allows you to conduct a 15 minute exercise routine while seated without creating excessive pressure and stress on joints. The exercise…also provide a beneficial aerobic workout…”
    Guys and gals, this is a very pretty mechanical bull. I am sure that if certain Hamsters were to buy this device, it would not be used for exercise, but would become the focus of some rather interesting alcohol-centered get-togethers, where macho men would see how much of both alcohol and bull they could handle.

  43. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    1 Tedtam says:
    January 24, 2011 at 8:46 am
    Oh, and rest in peace, Jack Lalanne. What a man.

    Jack Lalanne is so tough, he’s going to carry his own casket.

    h/t Micheal Berry

  44. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    1 Tedtam says:
    January 24, 2011 at 8:46 am
    Oh, and rest in peace, Jack Lalanne. What a man.

    Jack Lalanne is so tough, he’s going to carry his own casket.
    h/t Micheal Berry

  45. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    G’Morning all

    Dang, looks like everybody stayed up last night and sharpened their tongue.

    My take on the SOTU tonight:

    Obama will begin by saying that the State of the Union is good.

    Starting a speech with a good joke is the surest way to get the crowd on your side
    .

    Paul Ryan will give the Republican response. He’s the Republican with all the brains but he’s not the one with all the charisma.

    She can’t be bothered during bear season.

  46. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    G’Morning all
    Dang, looks like everybody stayed up last night and sharpened their tongue.
    My take on the SOTU tonight:
    Obama will begin by saying that the State of the Union is good.

    Starting a speech with a good joke is the surest way to get the crowd on your side
    .
    Paul Ryan will give the Republican response. He’s the Republican with all the brains but he’s not the one with all the charisma.
    She can’t be bothered during bear season.

  47. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    This W_R_O_N_G on so many levels.

    Any remaining sympathy for the plight of hard-up Octomom Nadya Suleman will surely disappear on viewing these tawdry images taken from a new love story fetish movie.

  48. squawkbox Avatar

    This W_R_O_N_G on so many levels.
    Any remaining sympathy for the plight of hard-up Octomom Nadya Suleman will surely disappear on viewing these tawdry images taken from a new love story fetish movie.

  49. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    If you cannot find the linkie here it is

  50. squawkbox Avatar

    If you cannot find the linkie here it is

  51. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    And what happens on thier way out of town during the evacuation when the roads are clogged up?

    They add to the clog and become victims of the food and water looters. ‘Cause you just know, if they drive that car, they aren’t armed. MIght as well wear a big sign, “Pick me, I’m a victim.”

    On the other hand you could charge (pun intended) big bucks carry a portable generator around charging up their batteries.

  52. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    And what happens on thier way out of town during the evacuation when the roads are clogged up?

    They add to the clog and become victims of the food and water looters. ‘Cause you just know, if they drive that car, they aren’t armed. MIght as well wear a big sign, “Pick me, I’m a victim.”
    On the other hand you could charge (pun intended) big bucks carry a portable generator around charging up their batteries.

  53. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Hu Jintao visited a Chicago school Friday which teaches the Chinese language to U.S. kids.

    Young Americans needs to know Spanish in order to give instructions and Chinese in order to take instructions. English will still be spoken, but only in the traditional masses.

  54. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Hu Jintao visited a Chicago school Friday which teaches the Chinese language to U.S. kids.
    Young Americans needs to know Spanish in order to give instructions and Chinese in order to take instructions. English will still be spoken, but only in the traditional masses.

  55. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #23 Before all that botox she kinda looked like Audrey Hepburn.

  56. Hamous Avatar

    #23 Before all that botox she kinda looked like Audrey Hepburn.

  57. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    I was going to do another spoof piece on Olbermann, but someone beat me to the headline: Olberman Inks Deal with Fox News. Keith would become co-host with his best buddy on the Fox show, to be renamed “The O Factor.”

    I think the show’s format had become a little stale over the years. I know y’all don’t like libruls (duh!) but Rachel Maddow actually does a pretty good show. Better than Olbermann, I think.

  58. bob42 Avatar

    I was going to do another spoof piece on Olbermann, but someone beat me to the headline: Olberman Inks Deal with Fox News. Keith would become co-host with his best buddy on the Fox show, to be renamed “The O Factor.”
    I think the show’s format had become a little stale over the years. I know y’all don’t like libruls (duh!) but Rachel Maddow actually does a pretty good show. Better than Olbermann, I think.

  59. Katfish Avatar

    #29 hamous
    How dare you blaspheme Audrey Hepburn (hubba hubba rowwwrrr rowwwrrr) like that.

  60. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #29 hamous
    How dare you blaspheme Audrey Hepburn (hubba hubba rowwwrrr rowwwrrr) like that.

  61. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Walt Disney Company announced it will completely renovate their theme locations inside the park. Disney officials explained they want to allow young people to see the future in all its wonder.

    Tomorrowland will be a scale model of Beijing

  62. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Walt Disney Company announced it will completely renovate their theme locations inside the park. Disney officials explained they want to allow young people to see the future in all its wonder.
    Tomorrowland will be a scale model of Beijing

  63. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #9 tedtam

    100 texanadian says:
    January 23, 2011 at 11:53 am
    Keith Olberman for Congress, 2012.

    You heard it here first.

  64. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #9 tedtam

    100 texanadian says:
    January 23, 2011 at 11:53 am
    Keith Olberman for Congress, 2012.

    You heard it here first.

  65. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Wagon
    #31
    I see you do not read other peoples comments. 😉

  66. squawkbox Avatar

    Wagon
    #31
    I see you do not read other peoples comments. 😉

  67. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    I looked up the word “slut” and there was a picture of Octomom.

  68. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    I looked up the word “slut” and there was a picture of Octomom.

  69. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Hamous
    #29
    Wehewwww I am glad I am not the only one that thought that. She was not that unattractive back in the day.

  70. squawkbox Avatar

    Hamous
    #29
    Wehewwww I am glad I am not the only one that thought that. She was not that unattractive back in the day.

  71. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #31 Wagon, see Squawk’s #23

  72. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #31 Wagon, see Squawk’s #23

  73. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #38 see # 35. 🙁

  74. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #38 see # 35. 🙁

  75. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    texanadian
    #39

    Bwahahahahahahaha

  76. squawkbox Avatar

    texanadian
    #39
    Bwahahahahahahaha

  77. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #20 Squawk, I think it’s only a matter of time. If you graph the amount of tax dollars given to Mexico alongside the deaths, there is a clear correlation. Also, given the amount of corruption in the government and law enforcement there, it is more than likely that a portion of our money is used to arm the bad guys.

    Vicente Fox gets it right. And he’s not alone. Several leaders of Central and South America, after leaving office have become more honest about the US’s war on a plant. They say it doesn’t work and that it kills people. They are right.

  78. bob42 Avatar

    #20 Squawk, I think it’s only a matter of time. If you graph the amount of tax dollars given to Mexico alongside the deaths, there is a clear correlation. Also, given the amount of corruption in the government and law enforcement there, it is more than likely that a portion of our money is used to arm the bad guys.
    Vicente Fox gets it right. And he’s not alone. Several leaders of Central and South America, after leaving office have become more honest about the US’s war on a plant. They say it doesn’t work and that it kills people. They are right.

  79. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #30 bob42

    Rachel Maddow actually does a pretty good show. Better than Olbermann, I think.

    Is that anything like drinking Draino so the anti-freeze will taste better later?

  80. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #30 bob42

    Rachel Maddow actually does a pretty good show. Better than Olbermann, I think.

    Is that anything like drinking Draino so the anti-freeze will taste better later?

  81. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #9 tedtam If they elected Al Franken I guess that they could elect that Clown. 🙁
    What’s really sad is that Franken lost by a few votes and if Obama hadn’t been in the picture, (can you say down ballot voting), he’d have lost by a substantial margin.

  82. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #9 tedtam If they elected Al Franken I guess that they could elect that Clown. 🙁
    What’s really sad is that Franken lost by a few votes and if Obama hadn’t been in the picture, (can you say down ballot voting), he’d have lost by a substantial margin.

  83. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Wagon
    #44
    Yabbut I am just a patron of this esteemed blog. You are a frontpager/moderator and are held to higher standard. 😉

  84. squawkbox Avatar

    Wagon
    #44
    Yabbut I am just a patron of this esteemed blog. You are a frontpager/moderator and are held to higher standard. 😉

  85. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    tedtam Five axis mechanical core muscle trainer: $2000. LINK 😉

  86. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    tedtam Five axis mechanical core muscle trainer: $2000. LINK 😉

  87. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Wagon
    I cannot count how many times I would get nailed for that. Oh and the catter walling when I posted the front page and did not give a hat tip. I actually got hate mail from readers wanting me to delete their account because I did not give them a hat tip.

  88. squawkbox Avatar

    Wagon
    I cannot count how many times I would get nailed for that. Oh and the catter walling when I posted the front page and did not give a hat tip. I actually got hate mail from readers wanting me to delete their account because I did not give them a hat tip.

  89. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Some Indian history to appease the Savage:

    One of the things that strikes me about the history of the conflict between the White Satan and the Innocent Stewards of the Environement and Spirituality is the characterization that the Dirt Farmer East Coast Stewards were primarily victimized by the White Satan.

    Most of the treaties signed in the first 200 years or so of White Satan occupation of the Pristine Wilderness maintained by the Stewards and subsequently defiled by the White Satans were basically military alliances designed to get the White Satan’s assitance in waging war with other Stewards, or getting the Stewards to help the White Satan make war on other White Satans.

    This didn’t work out very well for the Stewards who sided with the French while the British Satans were occupying the Pristine Wilderness south of the River That Flows From The Great Lake, or for those who sided with the British Satans against the American Satans during the Revolution.

    Later on, the superior ability of White Satan pro-creation, coupled with the fact that more were coming across the Great Waters in canoes with clouds for power made it so that those that had sided with the American Satans lost thier political and military power and were given lands in the Northern American Pristine Wilderness that they still occupy this day.

    Then, a Liberal Populist Democrat became President and made the Stewards living in the Southern part of the American Pristine Wilderness leave thier homes and walk to Oklahoma. Except for the Seminole, who established the tradition of Recalcitrant and Irredeemably Crazy Cracker that still exists in that area today.

  90. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Some Indian history to appease the Savage:

    One of the things that strikes me about the history of the conflict between the White Satan and the Innocent Stewards of the Environement and Spirituality is the characterization that the Dirt Farmer East Coast Stewards were primarily victimized by the White Satan.
    Most of the treaties signed in the first 200 years or so of White Satan occupation of the Pristine Wilderness maintained by the Stewards and subsequently defiled by the White Satans were basically military alliances designed to get the White Satan’s assitance in waging war with other Stewards, or getting the Stewards to help the White Satan make war on other White Satans.
    This didn’t work out very well for the Stewards who sided with the French while the British Satans were occupying the Pristine Wilderness south of the River That Flows From The Great Lake, or for those who sided with the British Satans against the American Satans during the Revolution.
    Later on, the superior ability of White Satan pro-creation, coupled with the fact that more were coming across the Great Waters in canoes with clouds for power made it so that those that had sided with the American Satans lost thier political and military power and were given lands in the Northern American Pristine Wilderness that they still occupy this day.
    Then, a Liberal Populist Democrat became President and made the Stewards living in the Southern part of the American Pristine Wilderness leave thier homes and walk to Oklahoma. Except for the Seminole, who established the tradition of Recalcitrant and Irredeemably Crazy Cracker that still exists in that area today.

  91. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    If you graph the decrease in the number of pirates on the high seas alongside the increase in US GDP, there is a clear correlation.

  92. Hamous Avatar

    If you graph the decrease in the number of pirates on the high seas alongside the increase in US GDP, there is a clear correlation.

  93. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    34 texanadian says:
    January 25, 2011 at 9:58 am
    #9 tedtam

    100 texanadian says:
    January 23, 2011 at 11:53 am
    Keith Olberman for Congress, 2012.

    You heard it here first.

    Yes, you did.

    I’ll expect my copyright check to be in the mailbiox by the end of the week.

  94. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    34 texanadian says:
    January 25, 2011 at 9:58 am
    #9 tedtam

    100 texanadian says:
    January 23, 2011 at 11:53 am
    Keith Olberman for Congress, 2012.

    You heard it here first.

    Yes, you did.
    I’ll expect my copyright check to be in the mailbiox by the end of the week.

  95. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    BRRRRR, now that’s COLD!

  96. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    BRRRRR, now that’s COLD!

  97. meglettx Avatar

    If you graph the number of Midol that HeadShaker has ingested alongside the number of whining comments he has made on blogs, there is a clear inverse correlation.

  98. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    If you graph the number of Midol that HeadShaker has ingested alongside the number of whining comments he has made on blogs, there is a clear inverse correlation.

  99. Katfish Avatar

    #47 squack
    I can guess your reply to those people. 😆

  100. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #47 squack
    I can guess your reply to those people. 😆

  101. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    So Headshaker’s a whiny pirate? 😉

  102. Hamous Avatar

    So Headshaker’s a whiny pirate? 😉

  103. Katfish Avatar

    #48 sarge
    There is great truth in your words of wisdom.

  104. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #48 sarge
    There is great truth in your words of wisdom.

  105. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #49 But Hammie, we need more pirates to combat global warming among other things.

    You may be interested to know that global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters are a direct effect of the shrinking numbers of Pirates since the 1800s. For your interest, I have included a graph of the approximate number of pirates versus the average global temperature over the last 200 years. As you can see, there is a statistically significant inverse relationship between pirates and global temperature.

  106. bob42 Avatar

    #49 But Hammie, we need more pirates to combat global warming among other things.

    You may be interested to know that global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters are a direct effect of the shrinking numbers of Pirates since the 1800s. For your interest, I have included a graph of the approximate number of pirates versus the average global temperature over the last 200 years. As you can see, there is a statistically significant inverse relationship between pirates and global temperature.

  107. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #6 –

    Give me a simple machine without the bells and whistles. Something I can fix myself.

    Yanno I considered having the old style ‘kicker’ added on to Gracie as a potential back up……………………UNTIL I heard how much that option would cost!

    Care to hazard a guess?

  108. Katfish Avatar

    #6 –

    Give me a simple machine without the bells and whistles. Something I can fix myself.

    Yanno I considered having the old style ‘kicker’ added on to Gracie as a potential back up……………………UNTIL I heard how much that option would cost!
    Care to hazard a guess?

  109. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    55 wagonburner says:
    January 25, 2011 at 10:34 am
    #48 sarge
    There is great truth in your words of wisdom.

    As a fractional Eastern Dirt Farmer Steward, I thank you.

    The other thing that strikes me about the the history of the conflict between the Stewards and Satans in the Pristine Wildreness west of the Long River is that the historians seem to be divided between those that think the pre-eminent Stewards of the Plains were the Sioux, and those that think it was the Comanche.

    Which is silly.

    Everybody knows that the Sioux got kicked out of Minnesota by the White Satan before the War of Northern Agression, and thus are wusses, while the Comanche kicked the Apache out of Texas in the 1600’s, kept the Spanish south of San Antonio for 150 years, and the Texicans on the coast until Samuel Colt brought them the six shooter and they were able to fire bullets promiscuoulsy at them.

  110. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    55 wagonburner says:
    January 25, 2011 at 10:34 am
    #48 sarge
    There is great truth in your words of wisdom.

    As a fractional Eastern Dirt Farmer Steward, I thank you.
    The other thing that strikes me about the the history of the conflict between the Stewards and Satans in the Pristine Wildreness west of the Long River is that the historians seem to be divided between those that think the pre-eminent Stewards of the Plains were the Sioux, and those that think it was the Comanche.
    Which is silly.
    Everybody knows that the Sioux got kicked out of Minnesota by the White Satan before the War of Northern Agression, and thus are wusses, while the Comanche kicked the Apache out of Texas in the 1600’s, kept the Spanish south of San Antonio for 150 years, and the Texicans on the coast until Samuel Colt brought them the six shooter and they were able to fire bullets promiscuoulsy at them.

  111. Tedtam Avatar

    #46 SuperDave

    So, Gilley’s wasn’t a honky tonk, it was a before -its-time workout center? 🙂

  112. Tedtam Avatar

    #46 SuperDave
    So, Gilley’s wasn’t a honky tonk, it was a before -its-time workout center? 🙂

  113. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #13 – Same here Texpat (after I returned from Libya that is)

  114. Katfish Avatar

    #13 – Same here Texpat (after I returned from Libya that is)

  115. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    bob42
    Uh huh

    Fox is most explicit about marijuana but says the principle applies to all illegal drugs.

    And there in lies the rub with me. If the legalization stopped with marijuana I would prolly not raise an eyebrow. The highlighted portion of the quote is my concern. THAT is the prevailing train of thought, get an inch go for the mile.

  116. squawkbox Avatar

    bob42
    Uh huh
    Fox is most explicit about marijuana but says the principle applies to all illegal drugs.
    And there in lies the rub with me. If the legalization stopped with marijuana I would prolly not raise an eyebrow. The highlighted portion of the quote is my concern. THAT is the prevailing train of thought, get an inch go for the mile.

  117. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Katfish

    Yanno I considered having the old style ‘kicker’ added on to Gracie as a potential back up……………………UNTIL I heard how much that option would cost!

    Being a Harley I’ll not guess, everything about a Harley is Expen$ive.
    Being away from motorcycles for a number of years I find it amazing that not only do ALL bikes come with electric starters but all but the dirt bikes have NO kick start at all! Unbelievable. 😕

  118. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Katfish

    Yanno I considered having the old style ‘kicker’ added on to Gracie as a potential back up……………………UNTIL I heard how much that option would cost!

    Being a Harley I’ll not guess, everything about a Harley is Expen$ive.
    Being away from motorcycles for a number of years I find it amazing that not only do ALL bikes come with electric starters but all but the dirt bikes have NO kick start at all! Unbelievable. 😕

  119. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    60 Katfish says:
    January 25, 2011 at 10:47 am
    #13 – Same here Texpat (after I returned from Libya that is)

    Do you recall the Goodnight/Parker treaty story, and do you know if its still being taught?

  120. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    60 Katfish says:
    January 25, 2011 at 10:47 am
    #13 – Same here Texpat (after I returned from Libya that is)

    Do you recall the Goodnight/Parker treaty story, and do you know if its still being taught?

  121. meglettx Avatar

    The 3M Idiot Parent-In-Chief is scheduled to tell us to “tone down the rhetoric”.

    I, for one, will take that as a cue to fire up my rhetoric.

  122. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    The 3M Idiot Parent-In-Chief is scheduled to tell us to “tone down the rhetoric”.
    I, for one, will take that as a cue to fire up my rhetoric.

  123. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    hater

  124. meglettx Avatar

    For fourteen years, I hunted on a ranch in the Panhandle adjacent to the Palo Duro Canyon State Park, that had the remains of Charles Goodnight’s home camp on it. I killed a B&C class whitetail right across the Prairie Dog Town Fork of the Red River from it – about 300-400 yards away. It was the Harrell Ranch. Will go down in my history as the finest place I ever hunted in Texas.

  125. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    For fourteen years, I hunted on a ranch in the Panhandle adjacent to the Palo Duro Canyon State Park, that had the remains of Charles Goodnight’s home camp on it. I killed a B&C class whitetail right across the Prairie Dog Town Fork of the Red River from it – about 300-400 yards away. It was the Harrell Ranch. Will go down in my history as the finest place I ever hunted in Texas.

  126. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    96 Sarge says:
    January 24, 2011 at 3:42 pm
    Provided free for your enjoyment and edification is this Joke Kit.
    100 texanadian says:
    January 23, 2011 at 11:53 am

    I gave them the idea. 😉 smirks

  127. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    96 Sarge says:
    January 24, 2011 at 3:42 pm
    Provided free for your enjoyment and edification is this Joke Kit.
    100 texanadian says:
    January 23, 2011 at 11:53 am

    I gave them the idea. 😉 smirks

  128. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    64 wagonburner says:
    January 25, 2011 at 11:02 am
    People are suing Taco Bell because they label their taco meat-flavored taco filling as beef.

    My earliest memory of Taco Bell comes from the time I spent at Fort Sill in the early ’70s. At that time, the menu was on a big sign above the counter, and included a pronunciation guide for each of the items.

    We would go in late at night, kind of blasted (OK—really blasted), and goof on the servers by ordering in our best laconically laid back surfer-speak accents:

    “Give me two TAH-COHs and a BUH-REE-TO—-TO-GO”

  129. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    64 wagonburner says:
    January 25, 2011 at 11:02 am
    People are suing Taco Bell because they label their taco meat-flavored taco filling as beef.

    My earliest memory of Taco Bell comes from the time I spent at Fort Sill in the early ’70s. At that time, the menu was on a big sign above the counter, and included a pronunciation guide for each of the items.
    We would go in late at night, kind of blasted (OK—really blasted), and goof on the servers by ordering in our best laconically laid back surfer-speak accents:
    “Give me two TAH-COHs and a BUH-REE-TO—-TO-GO”

  130. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Care to hazard a guess?

    HD= High Dollar, but I’ll take a shot. $2,500? Without peeking on the web.

    I have darn near split many a gut on a kicker. No thanks. I can fix the electric start if I have to.

  131. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Care to hazard a guess?

    HD= High Dollar, but I’ll take a shot. $2,500? Without peeking on the web.
    I have darn near split many a gut on a kicker. No thanks. I can fix the electric start if I have to.

  132. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #61 Squawk, he is correct in the application of that principal, and is in good company. Milton Friedman, William F. Buckley, and George P. Schultz have stated that opinion, as do I and the former drug warriors and criminal justice professionals at LEAP.

    Fox is most explicit about marijuana but says the principle applies to all illegal drugs.

    But don’t worry, none of the truly dangerous illegal substances are likely to become legal in our lifetime. However, cannabis decriminalization in some areas is quite likely.

    As much as some folks would like it to actually work, it’s just not a good plan to empower a nanny/police state to control what individuals will chose to eat, drink, or smoke. That kind of prohibition fails every time it is tried.

  133. bob42 Avatar

    #61 Squawk, he is correct in the application of that principal, and is in good company. Milton Friedman, William F. Buckley, and George P. Schultz have stated that opinion, as do I and the former drug warriors and criminal justice professionals at LEAP.

    Fox is most explicit about marijuana but says the principle applies to all illegal drugs.

    But don’t worry, none of the truly dangerous illegal substances are likely to become legal in our lifetime. However, cannabis decriminalization in some areas is quite likely.
    As much as some folks would like it to actually work, it’s just not a good plan to empower a nanny/police state to control what individuals will chose to eat, drink, or smoke. That kind of prohibition fails every time it is tried.

  134. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Here’s what Barry means when he says “tone down the rhetoric”:

    First, never quote Mother Teresa at me — she was an evil hag who worshipped poverty, who did not help people except to encourage them to suffer more for her faith, while she lived in comfort and traveled far and wide to receive the accolades of the gullible. I would never find the words of that wicked woman persuasive.

    Yeah, I’ll put up Mother Teresa’s record on helping the poor against all you “progressives” combined.

    And just in case we’re not completely sure that these twisted people are vampires let’s make it abundantly clear:

    Secondly, the standard bullying tactics of waving bloody fetuses might cow the squeamish, but I’m a biologist. I’ve guillotined rats. I’ve held eyeballs in my hand and peeled them apart with a pair of scissors. I’ve used a wet-vac to clean up a lake of half-clotted blood from an exsanguinated dog. I’ve opened bodies and watched the intestines do their slow writhing dance, I’ve been elbow deep in blood, I’ve split open cats and stabbed them in the heart with a perfusion needle. I’ve extracted the brains of mice…with a pair of pliers. I’ve scooped brains out of buckets, I’ve counted dendrites in slices cut from the brains of dead babies.

    You want to make me back down by trying to inspire revulsion with dead baby pictures? I look at them unflinchingly and see meat. And meat does not frighten me.

  135. Hamous Avatar

    Here’s what Barry means when he says “tone down the rhetoric”:

    First, never quote Mother Teresa at me — she was an evil hag who worshipped poverty, who did not help people except to encourage them to suffer more for her faith, while she lived in comfort and traveled far and wide to receive the accolades of the gullible. I would never find the words of that wicked woman persuasive.

    Yeah, I’ll put up Mother Teresa’s record on helping the poor against all you “progressives” combined.
    And just in case we’re not completely sure that these twisted people are vampires let’s make it abundantly clear:

    Secondly, the standard bullying tactics of waving bloody fetuses might cow the squeamish, but I’m a biologist. I’ve guillotined rats. I’ve held eyeballs in my hand and peeled them apart with a pair of scissors. I’ve used a wet-vac to clean up a lake of half-clotted blood from an exsanguinated dog. I’ve opened bodies and watched the intestines do their slow writhing dance, I’ve been elbow deep in blood, I’ve split open cats and stabbed them in the heart with a perfusion needle. I’ve extracted the brains of mice…with a pair of pliers. I’ve scooped brains out of buckets, I’ve counted dendrites in slices cut from the brains of dead babies.
    You want to make me back down by trying to inspire revulsion with dead baby pictures? I look at them unflinchingly and see meat. And meat does not frighten me.

  136. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    I’m surprised Hammie. I didn’t know you were a Pharyngula reader. You just don’t seem like the type. 😉

  137. bob42 Avatar

    I’m surprised Hammie. I didn’t know you were a Pharyngula reader. You just don’t seem like the type. 😉

  138. Katfish Avatar

    #72 hamous
    But wait, there’s more from these ghouls:

    I opted out of a career in biology or medicine (veterinary or human) after finding out about this kind of stuff. I know, it’s strange. I have no problem with the idea of cutting the spine of a just-unprofessionally-aborted foetus. I’d also have no problem assisting with someone’s suicide, but dissecting a cat or vivisecting a frog or a rat just for the purpose of learning about anatomy or whatever? count me out.

    Killing people is easy. It’s just sooooooo hard to kill a rat.

  139. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #72 hamous
    But wait, there’s more from these ghouls:

    I opted out of a career in biology or medicine (veterinary or human) after finding out about this kind of stuff. I know, it’s strange. I have no problem with the idea of cutting the spine of a just-unprofessionally-aborted foetus. I’d also have no problem assisting with someone’s suicide, but dissecting a cat or vivisecting a frog or a rat just for the purpose of learning about anatomy or whatever? count me out.

    Killing people is easy. It’s just sooooooo hard to kill a rat.

  140. Tedtam Avatar

    Mother Teresa – “Death Cult”

    Hammy, those people are so ignorant of what that woman was doing it is unbelievable. She didn’t worship poverty, just understood that she alone could not change the fortunes of the masses of people dying unloved, unwanted, and unknown, so she made their last days as loving as possible. “Lived in comfort and wealth”?

    I believe their ignorance is self-imposed. That’s the only way they can justify their hatred.

  141. Tedtam Avatar

    Mother Teresa – “Death Cult”
    Hammy, those people are so ignorant of what that woman was doing it is unbelievable. She didn’t worship poverty, just understood that she alone could not change the fortunes of the masses of people dying unloved, unwanted, and unknown, so she made their last days as loving as possible. “Lived in comfort and wealth”?
    I believe their ignorance is self-imposed. That’s the only way they can justify their hatred.

  142. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #72 Hambone
    “Evolution, development, and random biological ejaculations from a godless liberal.” YUP that just about sums it up.

  143. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #72 Hambone
    “Evolution, development, and random biological ejaculations from a godless liberal.” YUP that just about sums it up.

  144. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    And just in case we’re not completely sure that these twisted people are vampires let’s make it abundantly clear:

    Yahbutt, Hammy.

    He comes from Science, and we all know that people who’s primary reference is Science are better than we are.

    Or something.

  145. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    And just in case we’re not completely sure that these twisted people are vampires let’s make it abundantly clear:

    Yahbutt, Hammy.
    He comes from Science, and we all know that people who’s primary reference is Science are better than we are.
    Or something.

  146. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #’s 62 & 70 – they are definitely PROUD of em – the refurb requires the outside case also replaced to accommodate a kicker – $15 Franklins (give or take some labor)

    There is one option I find interesting and will likely add – a physical plunger button that can be mounted on the RH end of the starter for the rare occasion that a connection fails or starter button takes a dump – the better quality ones are around $125…………..

  147. Katfish Avatar

    #’s 62 & 70 – they are definitely PROUD of em – the refurb requires the outside case also replaced to accommodate a kicker – $15 Franklins (give or take some labor)
    There is one option I find interesting and will likely add – a physical plunger button that can be mounted on the RH end of the starter for the rare occasion that a connection fails or starter button takes a dump – the better quality ones are around $125…………..

  148. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    PZ Myers is in an elite class of hate-filled psychopaths – he actually has a position of authority and respect among the godless and other assorted liberals, and gets paid for it.

  149. Hamous Avatar

    PZ Myers is in an elite class of hate-filled psychopaths – he actually has a position of authority and respect among the godless and other assorted liberals, and gets paid for it.

  150. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Rahmbo back on the ballot.

    The Illinois Supreme Court has ordered a stay of yesterday’s appellate court decision that struck Rahm Emanuel’s name from the mayoral ballot — and not a moment too soon, as the NBC affiliate in Chicago explains. The city will print ballots today, which means that voters will see Emanuel’s name on the list even if he is later disqualified:

    Sets up a pretty cute possibility:

    The Illinois Supreme Court eventually rules that Rahmbo was not elible to run, but not until after he wins the election.

    High jinks ensue.

  151. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Rahmbo back on the ballot.

    The Illinois Supreme Court has ordered a stay of yesterday’s appellate court decision that struck Rahm Emanuel’s name from the mayoral ballot — and not a moment too soon, as the NBC affiliate in Chicago explains. The city will print ballots today, which means that voters will see Emanuel’s name on the list even if he is later disqualified:

    Sets up a pretty cute possibility:
    The Illinois Supreme Court eventually rules that Rahmbo was not elible to run, but not until after he wins the election.
    High jinks ensue.

  152. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Ah, I see Joe Carter over at First Things picked up on the sociopathic ramblings of PZ:

    Myers is an associate professor of biology the University of Minnesota (Morris). His inexplicably popular science blog, Pharyngula, and his willingness to talk about subjects about which he is completely ignorant have propelled him to the top of the list of influential New Atheists. Like most people who have had dealings with Myers, I have absolutely no respect for him as a scientist, thinker, or rhetor. He is a nasty, brutish, and dim, which is forgivable, but also a complete bore, which is not.

    Something I didn’t know about Dahmer…I mean Myers:

    Oh, and did I mention that in 2009 Myers was named the American Humanist Association’s “Humanist of the Year”? Apparently, being a humanist no longer requires having a respect for humanity.

  153. Hamous Avatar

    Ah, I see Joe Carter over at First Things picked up on the sociopathic ramblings of PZ:

    Myers is an associate professor of biology the University of Minnesota (Morris). His inexplicably popular science blog, Pharyngula, and his willingness to talk about subjects about which he is completely ignorant have propelled him to the top of the list of influential New Atheists. Like most people who have had dealings with Myers, I have absolutely no respect for him as a scientist, thinker, or rhetor. He is a nasty, brutish, and dim, which is forgivable, but also a complete bore, which is not.

    Something I didn’t know about Dahmer…I mean Myers:

    Oh, and did I mention that in 2009 Myers was named the American Humanist Association’s “Humanist of the Year”? Apparently, being a humanist no longer requires having a respect for humanity.

  154. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Vox Day gets in on the discussion:

    It’s probably a good thing he is an atheist without any moral standards, otherwise he might demonstrate at least a modicum of conscience for the bloody acts in which he appears to take such pride. And if he happened to take any sexual gratification from them as well, who can say it is wrong from his perspective, given his total lack of any moral or ethical code. If he feels no revulsion at looking at the pictures of butchered babies, then he likely feels no revulsion and sees only meat when looking at pictures of dead Jews and murdered Ukrainians as well. The awful thing is not that the pictures do not frighten him; they do not frighten me either. The awful thing is that he does not find them revolting like any normal human being with even a minimal amount of empathy would.

  155. Hamous Avatar

    Vox Day gets in on the discussion:

    It’s probably a good thing he is an atheist without any moral standards, otherwise he might demonstrate at least a modicum of conscience for the bloody acts in which he appears to take such pride. And if he happened to take any sexual gratification from them as well, who can say it is wrong from his perspective, given his total lack of any moral or ethical code. If he feels no revulsion at looking at the pictures of butchered babies, then he likely feels no revulsion and sees only meat when looking at pictures of dead Jews and murdered Ukrainians as well. The awful thing is not that the pictures do not frighten him; they do not frighten me either. The awful thing is that he does not find them revolting like any normal human being with even a minimal amount of empathy would.

  156. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Hamous, I really don’t see how you could logically reach these conclusions.

    PZ Myers is in an elite class of hate-filled psychopaths – he actually has a position of authority and respect among the godless and other assorted liberals, and gets paid for it.

    I kinda suspect you reach such conclusions simply because he dares to doubt the accuracy of your religion, criticizes the abuses of authoritah by its leaders, makes fun of its saints, and other simple differences of opinion.

    Disagreement does not equal hate, and nothing I’ve ever read there indicates he’s a psychopath. As for getting paid, wrong again (you’re three for three!) He goes months without receiving any money for his blogging. He earns his living as a biology professor at the University of Minnesota, Morris.

    That said, I don’t visit his site very often (I’m not into cephalopods.) The same is true of sites of other “strong” and outspoken atheists such as Hitchens and Dawkins. I prefer more laid back, “live and let live” folks such as Hemant Mehta, and Jen “Boobquake” McCreight.

  157. bob42 Avatar

    Hamous, I really don’t see how you could logically reach these conclusions.

    PZ Myers is in an elite class of hate-filled psychopaths – he actually has a position of authority and respect among the godless and other assorted liberals, and gets paid for it.

    I kinda suspect you reach such conclusions simply because he dares to doubt the accuracy of your religion, criticizes the abuses of authoritah by its leaders, makes fun of its saints, and other simple differences of opinion.
    Disagreement does not equal hate, and nothing I’ve ever read there indicates he’s a psychopath. As for getting paid, wrong again (you’re three for three!) He goes months without receiving any money for his blogging. He earns his living as a biology professor at the University of Minnesota, Morris.
    That said, I don’t visit his site very often (I’m not into cephalopods.) The same is true of sites of other “strong” and outspoken atheists such as Hitchens and Dawkins. I prefer more laid back, “live and let live” folks such as Hemant Mehta, and Jen “Boobquake” McCreight.

  158. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    And now he’s a “sociopath?” LOL, and it’s not even a full moon.

    However, it is a fact that Myers does in fact eat babies.

  159. bob42 Avatar

    And now he’s a “sociopath?” LOL, and it’s not even a full moon.
    However, it is a fact that Myers does in fact eat babies.

  160. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I really don’t care what you see anymore Bobo. I’ve grown weary of you saying things and then denying you are saying them. There are four possibilities:

    1. You really didn’t mean what you typed and the rest of us (ALL of us) just misinterpreted what you said.
    2. We’re all blithering idiots and you are Superman.
    3. You think we’re all blithering idiots and you think you are Superman.
    4. You did say what we thought you said and are too weasely to own up to them.

    As for PZ, his hate-filled rantings speak for themselves. They don’t need me to validate their vileness.

  161. Hamous Avatar

    I really don’t care what you see anymore Bobo. I’ve grown weary of you saying things and then denying you are saying them. There are four possibilities:
    1. You really didn’t mean what you typed and the rest of us (ALL of us) just misinterpreted what you said.
    2. We’re all blithering idiots and you are Superman.
    3. You think we’re all blithering idiots and you think you are Superman.
    4. You did say what we thought you said and are too weasely to own up to them.
    As for PZ, his hate-filled rantings speak for themselves. They don’t need me to validate their vileness.

  162. Katfish Avatar

    #83 bob
    No, he comes by that opinion of Myers from the fact that he appears to delight in killing. I understand that in biological research a certain amount of death is to be expected, but he appears to have no respect for animal life of any kind.

    His lack of respect for life is not confined to non-human animals; it is clear from the blog entry hamous linked to as well as a related one Myers recently posted that human life holds nothing special for him. That is why hamous (and I) find Myers to be so despicable.

    btw – his position of authority and respect is that of a University Professor, where he is pretty free to espouse his views on life and atheism as much as he likes, as opposed to those professors who happen to be Christian and are discriminated against or fired because of their views.

  163. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #83 bob
    No, he comes by that opinion of Myers from the fact that he appears to delight in killing. I understand that in biological research a certain amount of death is to be expected, but he appears to have no respect for animal life of any kind.
    His lack of respect for life is not confined to non-human animals; it is clear from the blog entry hamous linked to as well as a related one Myers recently posted that human life holds nothing special for him. That is why hamous (and I) find Myers to be so despicable.
    btw – his position of authority and respect is that of a University Professor, where he is pretty free to espouse his views on life and atheism as much as he likes, as opposed to those professors who happen to be Christian and are discriminated against or fired because of their views.

  164. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Wulp, I must admit it when I’m proven wrong with such a preponderance of evidence.

    Y’all are right. Myres is obiously a psychopathic, sociopathic, hate speaking baby killer and baby eater that delights in death of any kind, and whose mouth waters at the sight of aborted fetuses.

    It’s more than obvious that he constantly preaches atheism in his biology classes, and converts hundreds of students each year through de-baptism with a hairdryer (a condition for passing the class.) Yet, he still has a job and gets paid because the vast wing secular conspiracy protects him, and only persecuted Christians that teach their religion in science classes face any consequences whatsoever in this “Christian nation” of ours.

    Gee whiz. Why can’t we all just get a bong?

  165. bob42 Avatar

    Wulp, I must admit it when I’m proven wrong with such a preponderance of evidence.
    Y’all are right. Myres is obiously a psychopathic, sociopathic, hate speaking baby killer and baby eater that delights in death of any kind, and whose mouth waters at the sight of aborted fetuses.
    It’s more than obvious that he constantly preaches atheism in his biology classes, and converts hundreds of students each year through de-baptism with a hairdryer (a condition for passing the class.) Yet, he still has a job and gets paid because the vast wing secular conspiracy protects him, and only persecuted Christians that teach their religion in science classes face any consequences whatsoever in this “Christian nation” of ours.
    Gee whiz. Why can’t we all just get a bong?

  166. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    btw – his position of authority and respect is that of a University Professor, where he is pretty free to espouse his views on life and atheism as much as he likes, as opposed to those professors who happen to be Christian and are discriminated against or fired because of their views.

    HEY!

    Don’t you know that anybody who critcizes a science professor is just an authoritarian cretin trying to impose his views on others with absolutely no scientific fact to back it up?

    Forget all that stuff about dead babies being meat.

    Its SCIENCE you authoritarian nutjob!

  167. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    btw – his position of authority and respect is that of a University Professor, where he is pretty free to espouse his views on life and atheism as much as he likes, as opposed to those professors who happen to be Christian and are discriminated against or fired because of their views.

    HEY!
    Don’t you know that anybody who critcizes a science professor is just an authoritarian cretin trying to impose his views on others with absolutely no scientific fact to back it up?
    Forget all that stuff about dead babies being meat.
    Its SCIENCE you authoritarian nutjob!

  168. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    #84 Bob:

    Only a sociopath/psychopath could write:

    You want to make me back down by trying to inspire revulsion with dead baby pictures? I look at them unflinchingly and see meat. And meat does not frighten me.

    By his own admission Meyers is unmoved by a dead child – at best it’s simple some waste to dispose of; at worst tomorrow’s dinner. Those are HIS words.

    You can say whatever you want, after reading Meyer’s rant I am convinced of 2 things: Meyers is evil personified and, if his attitude is the end result of atheism I would sooner die than be an atheist.

  169. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    #84 Bob:
    Only a sociopath/psychopath could write:

    You want to make me back down by trying to inspire revulsion with dead baby pictures? I look at them unflinchingly and see meat. And meat does not frighten me.

    By his own admission Meyers is unmoved by a dead child – at best it’s simple some waste to dispose of; at worst tomorrow’s dinner. Those are HIS words.
    You can say whatever you want, after reading Meyer’s rant I am convinced of 2 things: Meyers is evil personified and, if his attitude is the end result of atheism I would sooner die than be an atheist.

  170. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    From the link in 82:

    This is the naked face of atheism, ladies and gentlemen. Look on it well and remember it, because it usually doesn’t dare to show its disgusting and anti-human nature so openly.

  171. Hamous Avatar

    From the link in 82:

    This is the naked face of atheism, ladies and gentlemen. Look on it well and remember it, because it usually doesn’t dare to show its disgusting and anti-human nature so openly.

  172. Dooood Avatar

    He earns his living as a biology professor at the University of Minnesota, Morris.

    Of course, PZ Myers earns a living off the government academic teat – who else would hire him ?

  173. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    He earns his living as a biology professor at the University of Minnesota, Morris.

    Of course, PZ Myers earns a living off the government academic teat – who else would hire him ?

  174. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    who else would hire him ?

    Bobby seems to have a problem with the way he’s being portrayed.

    Maybe he can get a job in the circles Bobby travels in.

  175. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    who else would hire him ?

    Bobby seems to have a problem with the way he’s being portrayed.
    Maybe he can get a job in the circles Bobby travels in.

  176. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #89 FA, nobody is asking you to even consider changing your mind on your religious beliefs, least of all me. As I mentioned above, I prefer other, more laid back non-theist sites to Myers’ site, but I’ve been there enough to know when he is being intentionally, flippantly, and arrogantly obtuse when he responds to an unsolicited email on his blog.

    Call him whatever you like. I don’t have a pony in that race. But I don’t see any real evidence to classify him as a sociopath or a psychopath. I see plenty of perception bias, and more than a little thin skinned reaction, but no evidence, at all. (Y’all might want to look up those terms in the DSM-IV before casually and reactively tossing them around. )

    Maybe he enjoys it when folks read his stuff, of their own free will, and get their knickers knotted as a result. It doesn’t matter to me.

    Perhaps y’all should send him some e-mail. He likes e-mail. 😉

  177. bob42 Avatar

    #89 FA, nobody is asking you to even consider changing your mind on your religious beliefs, least of all me. As I mentioned above, I prefer other, more laid back non-theist sites to Myers’ site, but I’ve been there enough to know when he is being intentionally, flippantly, and arrogantly obtuse when he responds to an unsolicited email on his blog.
    Call him whatever you like. I don’t have a pony in that race. But I don’t see any real evidence to classify him as a sociopath or a psychopath. I see plenty of perception bias, and more than a little thin skinned reaction, but no evidence, at all. (Y’all might want to look up those terms in the DSM-IV before casually and reactively tossing them around. )
    Maybe he enjoys it when folks read his stuff, of their own free will, and get their knickers knotted as a result. It doesn’t matter to me.
    Perhaps y’all should send him some e-mail. He likes e-mail. 😉

  178. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    so·ci·o·path
    [soh-see-uh-path, soh-shee-]
    –noun Psychiatry .
    a person, as a psychopathic personality, whose behavior is antisocial and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.

    Jeez, they may as well put his picture next to the definition.

  179. Hamous Avatar

    so·ci·o·path
    [soh-see-uh-path, soh-shee-]
    –noun Psychiatry .
    a person, as a psychopathic personality, whose behavior is antisocial and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.

    Jeez, they may as well put his picture next to the definition.

  180. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Let’s repeat:

    You want to make me back down by trying to inspire revulsion with dead baby pictures? I look at them unflinchingly and see meat. And meat does not frighten me.

    This is the same sociopathic behavior exhibited by Jeffery Dahmer. How you can continue to defend this guy is beyond comprehension.

  181. Hamous Avatar

    Let’s repeat:

    You want to make me back down by trying to inspire revulsion with dead baby pictures? I look at them unflinchingly and see meat. And meat does not frighten me.

    This is the same sociopathic behavior exhibited by Jeffery Dahmer. How you can continue to defend this guy is beyond comprehension.

  182. Tedtam Avatar

    Meat may not frighten him. But that moment after he takes his last breath…

  183. Tedtam Avatar

    Meat may not frighten him. But that moment after he takes his last breath…

  184. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    A Christian who says to a group of Christians that non-Christians are not his brothers and sisters (although he wants them to be) is a dangerous authoritarian to be ran out of town on a rail while a man who makes no moral distinction between severing the spine of an innocent human baby and dissecting a lab rat is just an average joe.

    You are bereft of a moral compass.

  185. Hamous Avatar

    A Christian who says to a group of Christians that non-Christians are not his brothers and sisters (although he wants them to be) is a dangerous authoritarian to be ran out of town on a rail while a man who makes no moral distinction between severing the spine of an innocent human baby and dissecting a lab rat is just an average joe.
    You are bereft of a moral compass.

  186. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    Bobby:

    Apparently the DSM-IV doesn’t use the term psychopath but rather “Antisocial Personality Disorder”. I would say that looking at a dead child and seeing only meat would qualify someone as “Antisocial.”

    Apparently

    the DSM-V working party is recommending a revision of Antisocial Personality Disorder to include “Antisocial/Psychopathic Type”, with the diagnostic criteria having a greater emphasis on character than on behavior.

    Judging from his writings I would say that a lack of character is the perfect definition of Meyers.

    He doesn’t knot my knickers – I’ve seen my share of skunks and rabid vermin.

    It does sadden me that you apparently think of him as a kindred spirit. I thought better of you.

  187. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    Bobby:
    Apparently the DSM-IV doesn’t use the term psychopath but rather “Antisocial Personality Disorder”. I would say that looking at a dead child and seeing only meat would qualify someone as “Antisocial.”
    Apparently

    the DSM-V working party is recommending a revision of Antisocial Personality Disorder to include “Antisocial/Psychopathic Type”, with the diagnostic criteria having a greater emphasis on character than on behavior.

    Judging from his writings I would say that a lack of character is the perfect definition of Meyers.
    He doesn’t knot my knickers – I’ve seen my share of skunks and rabid vermin.
    It does sadden me that you apparently think of him as a kindred spirit. I thought better of you.

  188. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Speaking of sociopaths—or at least paranoid schizophrenics.

    JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. – A man accused of stabbing a Kansas City college official intended to instead attack Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon and mistakenly believed he had done so, police said Thursday.
    The suspect, 22-year-old Casey Brezik, did not know Nixon and had no particular beef with the governor, but he decided to attack him because he was a top government official, Kansas city police spokesman Darin Snapp said.
    Brezik, of Raytown, is charged with two felony counts each of first-degree assault and armed criminal action. A Jackson County judge entered not guilty pleas on his behalf during a court appearance Wednesday.

    Did you see the date?

    Published September 16, 2010
    | Associated Press

    Never heard of it? Maybe this is why.

    Brezik liked to spread his revolutionary rhetoric to his 24 Facebook friends (I’ve already changed the number twice because people keep unfriending him), including posting just hours prior to yesterday’s attack.
    snip
    Brezik was apparently living out his anarchist fantasy. In June, he bragged about getting arrested at the Toronto G20 summit:

    Crossed the security fence. Ran from the cops. Was tackled. Spit on an officer. Was arrested, charged, and deported. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

    Of course, back in September, the media didn’t think that Obama needed a 9/11 moment to connect with the American People—and to demonize Conservatives with.

  189. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    You are bereft of a moral compass.

    Actually, I think its that he relies on his political compass more.

  190. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    You are bereft of a moral compass.

    Actually, I think its that he relies on his political compass more.

  191. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #10 Sarge

    I was in Texas public schools from grades 1-12 and I do not remember reading or hearing of Quanah Parker in school. I did encounter that bit of Texas history later on, but no longer remember if it might have been in a college history class (still a requirement when I was an undergraduate at UT) or something I came across on my own.

  192. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #10 Sarge
    I was in Texas public schools from grades 1-12 and I do not remember reading or hearing of Quanah Parker in school. I did encounter that bit of Texas history later on, but no longer remember if it might have been in a college history class (still a requirement when I was an undergraduate at UT) or something I came across on my own.

  193. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #13

    Texpat says:
    Texas history was a required subject of every seventh grader when I was in school.

    But the question is whether Quanah Parker was covered in the textbook. I myself do not recall.

  194. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #13

    Texpat says:
    Texas history was a required subject of every seventh grader when I was in school.

    But the question is whether Quanah Parker was covered in the textbook. I myself do not recall.

  195. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #97 Hammie, have you always had these hallucinations, or are they a recent development?

    A Christian who says to a group of Christians that non-Christians are not his brothers and sisters (although he wants them to be) is a dangerous authoritarian to be ran out of town on a rail while a man who makes no moral distinction between severing the spine of an innocent human baby and dissecting a lab rat is just an average joe.

    If you can point out to me where I suggested that that governor was “dangerous” or an authoritarian, or should be “run out of town on a rail” I’ll buy both Izzy and you a beer.

    The trouble is, you can’t point out anything of the sort. I think you’re seeing things that simply are not there. Again. Why so defensive? Why jump sharks to reach irrational conclusions based on nothing but your own fantasies and biases?

    You are bereft of a moral compass.

    You accuse me of having inferior morals because of something Myers wrote on his friggin blog? Give me a break. Either you’ve been in my stash, or perhaps need to be.

    Also, you sir, are in no position to judge my moral compass considering that you don’t even know me, and that your reading comprehension abilities are evidently severely inhibited by your self-superior biases.

    Have a nice day.

  196. bob42 Avatar

    #97 Hammie, have you always had these hallucinations, or are they a recent development?

    A Christian who says to a group of Christians that non-Christians are not his brothers and sisters (although he wants them to be) is a dangerous authoritarian to be ran out of town on a rail while a man who makes no moral distinction between severing the spine of an innocent human baby and dissecting a lab rat is just an average joe.

    If you can point out to me where I suggested that that governor was “dangerous” or an authoritarian, or should be “run out of town on a rail” I’ll buy both Izzy and you a beer.
    The trouble is, you can’t point out anything of the sort. I think you’re seeing things that simply are not there. Again. Why so defensive? Why jump sharks to reach irrational conclusions based on nothing but your own fantasies and biases?

    You are bereft of a moral compass.

    You accuse me of having inferior morals because of something Myers wrote on his friggin blog? Give me a break. Either you’ve been in my stash, or perhaps need to be.
    Also, you sir, are in no position to judge my moral compass considering that you don’t even know me, and that your reading comprehension abilities are evidently severely inhibited by your self-superior biases.
    Have a nice day.

  197. gtotracker42 Avatar
    gtotracker42

    The Oscars are not something I would comment on, but Hailee Steinfeld is up for one. Her performance in True Grit carries the movie. Not sure why she is up for supporting actress and not lead, but glad she got the nod. That is one of very few movies I have seen that were worth the time to see in a theater.

  198. gtotracker42 Avatar
    gtotracker42

    The Oscars are not something I would comment on, but Hailee Steinfeld is up for one. Her performance in True Grit carries the movie. Not sure why she is up for supporting actress and not lead, but glad she got the nod. That is one of very few movies I have seen that were worth the time to see in a theater.

  199. Tedtam Avatar

    #103

    Oh
    my
    goodness.

    /speechless

    So, what do ya’ll think of this weather? Cold enough for you?

  200. Tedtam Avatar

    #103
    Oh
    my
    goodness.
    /speechless
    So, what do ya’ll think of this weather? Cold enough for you?

  201. Tedtam Avatar

    I have to go to a meeting tonight. It’s a professional meeting, where we’ll be seeing a state inspection official and he’ll be giving us an update on codes and what not.

    I have not been going to our meetings as regularly as usual. The man who runs our organization has been annoying me in a cumulative fashion over the last few years. I have described him as a big fluffy puppy that just won’t quit jumping in your lap. He’s nice, but doesn’t seem to understand what he’s doing wrong.

    First, he can introduce me using my real name, and not as “our Maggie”. It used to be cute, but holy crap dude, hasn’t my attitude and my habit of putting out my hand and telling the other person “Hello, my real name is Tedtam” made a mark on your consciousness yet? Also, he can quit “assigning” me duties. Try asking me first. We’re supposed to be having a fun contest tonight, and I’ve already been assigned judging duties. Don’t really want to, but that doesn’t seem to matter, even after I tell him twice I don’t want to do it.

    Which brings me to my next irritation – he wants me to be the first female president of our organization. I’m not big on being “first” anything, whether it be related to gender, age, color, school affiliation, or the type of car I drive. It doesn’t matter. Second, I’ve already got more than a full plate, and don’t need any more duties, ceremonial or real. Third, just because he thinks it would be “cute” or that anyone else wants me to do it, doesn’t change fact number two.

    I’m going to the meeting. I will have a nice dinner with nice people. I may even relent and be a judge. But I’m bringing a rolled-up newspaper with which to whack this guy on the nose.

    /slow simmer

  202. Tedtam Avatar

    I have to go to a meeting tonight. It’s a professional meeting, where we’ll be seeing a state inspection official and he’ll be giving us an update on codes and what not.
    I have not been going to our meetings as regularly as usual. The man who runs our organization has been annoying me in a cumulative fashion over the last few years. I have described him as a big fluffy puppy that just won’t quit jumping in your lap. He’s nice, but doesn’t seem to understand what he’s doing wrong.
    First, he can introduce me using my real name, and not as “our Maggie”. It used to be cute, but holy crap dude, hasn’t my attitude and my habit of putting out my hand and telling the other person “Hello, my real name is Tedtam” made a mark on your consciousness yet? Also, he can quit “assigning” me duties. Try asking me first. We’re supposed to be having a fun contest tonight, and I’ve already been assigned judging duties. Don’t really want to, but that doesn’t seem to matter, even after I tell him twice I don’t want to do it.
    Which brings me to my next irritation – he wants me to be the first female president of our organization. I’m not big on being “first” anything, whether it be related to gender, age, color, school affiliation, or the type of car I drive. It doesn’t matter. Second, I’ve already got more than a full plate, and don’t need any more duties, ceremonial or real. Third, just because he thinks it would be “cute” or that anyone else wants me to do it, doesn’t change fact number two.
    I’m going to the meeting. I will have a nice dinner with nice people. I may even relent and be a judge. But I’m bringing a rolled-up newspaper with which to whack this guy on the nose.
    /slow simmer

  203. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    EG #15

    I predict a quick reversal of this ruling

    I’m hoping it won’t happen, but agree with you it probably will.

  204. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    EG #15

    I predict a quick reversal of this ruling

    I’m hoping it won’t happen, but agree with you it probably will.

  205. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #17 Squawk

    using waste energy from the town’s crematorium.

    Before you know it, we’ll be eating Soylent Green!!!

  206. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #17 Squawk

    using waste energy from the town’s crematorium.

    Before you know it, we’ll be eating Soylent Green!!!

  207. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I’m done conversing with you, Bobo. It’s as clear as day that your definitions of right and wrong are at such polar opposites from mine there is no reason to continue trying to come to some understanding of each other. How you reach the bizarre justifications in what you consider your morals is your business but I will no longer engage you. After today’s discussions I actually feel soiled. Others here can choose to participate in your circular mental masturbation but I refuse to be a part any longer.

  208. Hamous Avatar

    I’m done conversing with you, Bobo. It’s as clear as day that your definitions of right and wrong are at such polar opposites from mine there is no reason to continue trying to come to some understanding of each other. How you reach the bizarre justifications in what you consider your morals is your business but I will no longer engage you. After today’s discussions I actually feel soiled. Others here can choose to participate in your circular mental masturbation but I refuse to be a part any longer.

  209. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    And what happens on thier way out of town during the evacuation when the roads are clogged up?

    Good Lord willin’, I will live long enough to someday pull alongside a dead Volt and get to ask them if they need a jump.

  210. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    And what happens on thier way out of town during the evacuation when the roads are clogged up?

    Good Lord willin’, I will live long enough to someday pull alongside a dead Volt and get to ask them if they need a jump.

  211. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Good Lord willin’, I will live long enough to someday pull alongside a dead Volt and get to ask them if they need a jump.

    LOL! I’m adding that to my wishlist too.

  212. Hamous Avatar

    Good Lord willin’, I will live long enough to someday pull alongside a dead Volt and get to ask them if they need a jump.

    LOL! I’m adding that to my wishlist too.

  213. gtotracker42 Avatar
    gtotracker42

    You poor minions fail to understand. Once we all drive Volts global warming will end. No more hurricanes to leave motorists stranded.

    /duh

  214. gtotracker42 Avatar
    gtotracker42

    You poor minions fail to understand. Once we all drive Volts global warming will end. No more hurricanes to leave motorists stranded.
    /duh

  215. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Looks like Rahm enlisted one of his SEIU rent-a-mobs to assist the Illinois Supreme Court in reaching its decision. #80 Sarge was probably right – the voters will elect Rahm and the court will decide that it cannot overturn the will of the people and in effect, not rule on the issue at all.

  216. El Gordo Avatar

    Looks like Rahm enlisted one of his SEIU rent-a-mobs to assist the Illinois Supreme Court in reaching its decision. #80 Sarge was probably right – the voters will elect Rahm and the court will decide that it cannot overturn the will of the people and in effect, not rule on the issue at all.

  217. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    I knew Rahm DeadFish would prevail but man, in one day? Chicago politics doesn’t even try to hide it anymore does it?

  218. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    I knew Rahm DeadFish would prevail but man, in one day? Chicago politics doesn’t even try to hide it anymore does it?

  219. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Comment on the PZ Myers link:

    Ugh. I don’t want to ignite an argument over the morality of using animals in medical research and things, but that’s about all I could focus on in your post. Could you follow up in a comment and tell us why you were doing all those horrid things? Would make me feel a lot better.

  220. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Comment on the PZ Myers link:

    Ugh. I don’t want to ignite an argument over the morality of using animals in medical research and things, but that’s about all I could focus on in your post. Could you follow up in a comment and tell us why you were doing all those horrid things? Would make me feel a lot better.

  221. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #21 TT

    12) A weed whacking golf driver $59.95

    The catalog Item I like is the practical one. I never understand why men want to run in a marathon when they could get some practical work done by, for example, pushing the lawn mower around the yard while they run.

  222. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #21 TT

    12) A weed whacking golf driver $59.95

    The catalog Item I like is the practical one. I never understand why men want to run in a marathon when they could get some practical work done by, for example, pushing the lawn mower around the yard while they run.

  223. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    I never understand why men want to run in a marathon when they could get some practical work done by, for example, pushing the lawn mower around the yard while they run.

    And what about the wimmins? Plenty of exercise in ironing her mans underwear and socks.

    >>>>>>>>>scram>>>>>>>>>>

  224. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    I never understand why men want to run in a marathon when they could get some practical work done by, for example, pushing the lawn mower around the yard while they run.

    And what about the wimmins? Plenty of exercise in ironing her mans underwear and socks.
    >>>>>>>>>scram>>>>>>>>>>

  225. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Lawrence.
    I heard you end the show this evening with Edd, talking about the Bear Stearn’s news..

    I couldn’t help but laugh when I switched the channel and immediately heard the famous lyrics:

    “all the Federales say they could’ve had him ’em any day,, they only let ’em get away, out of kindness, I suppose.”

    See you at the car show, dude. And I’m buying this time, you bastidge!!

  226. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Lawrence.
    I heard you end the show this evening with Edd, talking about the Bear Stearn’s news..
    I couldn’t help but laugh when I switched the channel and immediately heard the famous lyrics:
    “all the Federales say they could’ve had him ’em any day,, they only let ’em get away, out of kindness, I suppose.”
    See you at the car show, dude. And I’m buying this time, you bastidge!!

  227. Katfish Avatar

    #117 tim
    After she makes him a sammich and brings him a beer.

  228. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #117 tim
    After she makes him a sammich and brings him a beer.

  229. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    “Put another log on the fire.
    Cook me up some bacon and some beans.
    And go out to the car and change the tire.
    Wash my socks and sew my old blue jeans.
    Come on, baby, you can fill my pipe,
    And then go fetch my slippers.
    And boil me up another pot of tea.
    Then put another log on the fire, babe,
    And come and tell me why you’re leaving me.” — Tompall Glaser

  230. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    “Put another log on the fire.
    Cook me up some bacon and some beans.
    And go out to the car and change the tire.
    Wash my socks and sew my old blue jeans.
    Come on, baby, you can fill my pipe,
    And then go fetch my slippers.
    And boil me up another pot of tea.
    Then put another log on the fire, babe,
    And come and tell me why you’re leaving me.” — Tompall Glaser

  231. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    heheheheeeee, all kinda excercise right there!

  232. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    heheheheeeee, all kinda excercise right there!

  233. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Sweetie is losing it, she’s telling the new puppy a bed time story.

  234. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Sweetie is losing it, she’s telling the new puppy a bed time story.

  235. Katfish Avatar

    People need to relax and get a life. The guy that was gonna sell lion tacos is scrapping the plan after receiving numerous threats. He oughta get a live lion to guard himself and dare the do-gooders to come and get him.

  236. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    People need to relax and get a life. The guy that was gonna sell lion tacos is scrapping the plan after receiving numerous threats. He oughta get a live lion to guard himself and dare the do-gooders to come and get him.

  237. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Puppy clearly does not understand the whole bed time story thing and is off playing.

  238. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Puppy clearly does not understand the whole bed time story thing and is off playing.

  239. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #117,#119

    Aw come on, surely youse guys are not the lazy type that expects to be waited on hand and foot… Husbands and pets should be treated well, but not pampered.

  240. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #117,#119
    Aw come on, surely youse guys are not the lazy type that expects to be waited on hand and foot… Husbands and pets should be treated well, but not pampered.

  241. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    #83;

    Bob’s scoreboard:

    Conservatives (hamous) = -201 Liberal (calling Mother Theresa a “hag” and only “sees meat” when viewing a chopped up baby or cutting the spine of babyies who were alive out of the womb)= +11

    Let’s take a quick review:

    Hamous, the faithful-practicing Catholic quotes:

    First, never quote Mother Teresa at me — she was an evil hag who worshipped poverty, who did not help people except to encourage them to suffer more for her faith, while she lived in comfort and traveled far and wide to receive the accolades of the gullible. I would never find the words of that wicked woman persuasive.

    Bob, the 24 karat a$$hole refutes Hamous’ difference with the anti-Catholic remark and calling “el profesor” a sciopath based on that devil’s own words by saying:

    I kinda suspect you reach such conclusions simply because he dares to doubt the accuracy of your religion, criticizes the abuses of authoritah by its leaders, makes fun of its saints, and other simple differences of opinion.

    (1) Dares to doubt the accuracy of Hamous’ religion? Huh? Between Lone Star Times and right here on Hamous’ own website, I’ve done that and Hamous has not called me a sociopath. Bonecrusher’s done that and Hamous didn’t call hm a sociopath. Texanadian (I think he’s the Greek Orthodox here) has not openly done so that I recall but we all know he denies the accuracy of Catholicism. For the record, neither Wagonburner not Tedtam have called any of us “sociopaths”. In fact, people here, including everyone I’ve mentioned just now, exept me, of course, have questioned the accuracy of my religion. How many of these have I called “sociopath”? Tio be sure, would anyone here who disagrees with Catholicism, Mormonism, Advent(ism), Greek Orthodoxism and have been called a “sociopath” please raise your hand?

    So why would Hamous call Meyers a “sociopath”? Based on diasagreing with Hamous’ religion?

    (2) Simple differences? Ummmm, calling mother Theresa, a saint and upright humanist in her own right, a “hag” and blaming the suffering of others on her faith and because of her and her faith is not a “simple difference”.

    Since the following worked for Mike Lee, let’s try it with bob:

    Send bob to HuffPost,
    Send bob to HuffPost,
    Send bob to HuffPost,
    Send bob to HuffPost,
    (Come on, bob, join in)
    Send bob to HuffPost,
    Send bob to HuffPost,
    Send bob to HuffPost!

  242. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    #83;
    Bob’s scoreboard:
    Conservatives (hamous) = -201 Liberal (calling Mother Theresa a “hag” and only “sees meat” when viewing a chopped up baby or cutting the spine of babyies who were alive out of the womb)= +11
    Let’s take a quick review:
    Hamous, the faithful-practicing Catholic quotes:

    First, never quote Mother Teresa at me — she was an evil hag who worshipped poverty, who did not help people except to encourage them to suffer more for her faith, while she lived in comfort and traveled far and wide to receive the accolades of the gullible. I would never find the words of that wicked woman persuasive.

    Bob, the 24 karat a$$hole refutes Hamous’ difference with the anti-Catholic remark and calling “el profesor” a sciopath based on that devil’s own words by saying:

    I kinda suspect you reach such conclusions simply because he dares to doubt the accuracy of your religion, criticizes the abuses of authoritah by its leaders, makes fun of its saints, and other simple differences of opinion.

    (1) Dares to doubt the accuracy of Hamous’ religion? Huh? Between Lone Star Times and right here on Hamous’ own website, I’ve done that and Hamous has not called me a sociopath. Bonecrusher’s done that and Hamous didn’t call hm a sociopath. Texanadian (I think he’s the Greek Orthodox here) has not openly done so that I recall but we all know he denies the accuracy of Catholicism. For the record, neither Wagonburner not Tedtam have called any of us “sociopaths”. In fact, people here, including everyone I’ve mentioned just now, exept me, of course, have questioned the accuracy of my religion. How many of these have I called “sociopath”? Tio be sure, would anyone here who disagrees with Catholicism, Mormonism, Advent(ism), Greek Orthodoxism and have been called a “sociopath” please raise your hand?
    So why would Hamous call Meyers a “sociopath”? Based on diasagreing with Hamous’ religion?
    (2) Simple differences? Ummmm, calling mother Theresa, a saint and upright humanist in her own right, a “hag” and blaming the suffering of others on her faith and because of her and her faith is not a “simple difference”.
    Since the following worked for Mike Lee, let’s try it with bob:
    Send bob to HuffPost,
    Send bob to HuffPost,
    Send bob to HuffPost,
    Send bob to HuffPost,
    (Come on, bob, join in)
    Send bob to HuffPost,
    Send bob to HuffPost,
    Send bob to HuffPost!

  243. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Come to think of it, I think it is Texmo the Greek Orthodox.

    If so, my bad.

  244. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Come to think of it, I think it is Texmo the Greek Orthodox.
    If so, my bad.

  245. El Gordo Avatar

    Iowahawk has some good pointers on setting up a watch party for the SOTU. Personally I was unable to watch it this year, but I’m hopeful that following the 2012 elections results that I can resume watching in 2013. Pretty funny.
    http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2011/01/byob.html

  246. Hamous Avatar

    IT’S WAKEY WAKEY TIME YOU SLUMBER HEADS; WAKE THE *$^&*(& UP!
    That is the closest I can get to shouting here on Hammy’s couch. I tried to actually watch some of the SOTU Kabuki show last night; on 4 separate tries I think I logged a total of less than 3 minutes. I remember the foul “O” speaking of how we need high speed rail all over our country and then I started screaming at the TV and wanted to shoot it so I stopped watching. I found Star Trek Next Generation reruns far more informative and relevant. Did anyone else actually watch that BS-a-thon last night?

  247. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    IT’S WAKEY WAKEY TIME YOU SLUMBER HEADS; WAKE THE *$^&*(& UP!
    That is the closest I can get to shouting here on Hammy’s couch. I tried to actually watch some of the SOTU Kabuki show last night; on 4 separate tries I think I logged a total of less than 3 minutes. I remember the foul “O” speaking of how we need high speed rail all over our country and then I started screaming at the TV and wanted to shoot it so I stopped watching. I found Star Trek Next Generation reruns far more informative and relevant. Did anyone else actually watch that BS-a-thon last night?

  248. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    I tried to listen on the radio, the bunker has no tv. It started out okay, the usual dribble that’s expected, and then he started on bashing the oil companies, while calling for more natural gas development, pushing windmills and other green crap that is economically unvialble and it went downhill from there so I turned it off.
    Trophy wife had her hands over her ears the whole time with doors closed between us and singing la la la la la …

  249. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    I tried to listen on the radio, the bunker has no tv. It started out okay, the usual dribble that’s expected, and then he started on bashing the oil companies, while calling for more natural gas development, pushing windmills and other green crap that is economically unvialble and it went downhill from there so I turned it off.
    Trophy wife had her hands over her ears the whole time with doors closed between us and singing la la la la la …

  250. Tedtam Avatar

    Wednesday OC thread is now open for business.

  251. Tedtam Avatar

    Wednesday OC thread is now open for business.

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