Tuesday Open Comments

Prager on the death of bravery:

I have a sad confession to make. Whenever I hear or sing the national anthem, I no longer fully believe its ending — “o’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.” We have many freedom-loving and brave Americans — just think of those in the armed forces. But overall, risk has been banned as Americans seek to be immunized against pain.
Needless to say, the liberal Philadelphia Inquirer supported the decision to cancel the football game. And so did some of my callers who think of themselves as conservative. But all those self-identified conservative callers who supported the decision were, I noted on air, under the age of 40.
I explained to them that they have grown up in a different America than I did. The idea of telling an American that a pro football game is canceled because he might drive in bad weather strikes a conservative over 40 as demeaning. But the young have been raised without monkey bars, dodge ball or seesaws, lest they fall and hurt themselves; without “Merry Christmas,” lest it offend; protected by parents and schools from experiencing the pain of a loss in sports; being told they are wonderful when they are not; and otherwise weakening them to the point where it seems perfectly natural to cancel a football game because fans may drive in bad weather.
A listener who disagreed with me sent me an e-mail asking me how I would feel if my father drove to that game and died in an accident because emergency vehicles could not reach him in time. I responded by giving my correspondent my father’s e-mail address. I told him that I suspected that my father, who is a healthy 92 and fought for three years in World War II, would probably respond that he doesn’t recognize the America of today as the one he fought for 65 years ago.
That’s why the cancellations by the NFL and Yale University are important. Once the home of the brave, America is becoming the home of the risk-averse and the pain-avoiders. And when you are risk-averse, you are not only less brave, you are less free. With freedom comes pain, a price more and more Americans don’t want to pay.


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  1. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Mornin’ Gang

  2. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Mornin’ Gang

  3. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Yo’ Bob, did you get your Christmas card from Christine O’Donnell? I got mine yesterday, a little late but hey. 😉

  4. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Yo’ Bob, did you get your Christmas card from Christine O’Donnell? I got mine yesterday, a little late but hey. 😉

  5. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    This article offends me, where’s my lawyer’s phone number…..oh yeah, speed dial #1.

  6. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    This article offends me, where’s my lawyer’s phone number…..oh yeah, speed dial #1.

  7. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    I gots my wish, Kubiak stays on as Texan’s head coach, now c’mon McNair. pay Wade Phillips whatever it takes to bring him in to run the defense.

  8. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    I gots my wish, Kubiak stays on as Texan’s head coach, now c’mon McNair. pay Wade Phillips whatever it takes to bring him in to run the defense.

  9. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #2 Just checked the box. No card from Christine yet, but I did find a Victoria’s secret catalog.

    I reckon I’ll get by.

  10. bob42 Avatar

    #2 Just checked the box. No card from Christine yet, but I did find a Victoria’s secret catalog.
    I reckon I’ll get by.

  11. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Darren rhetorically queried last night:

    Now, what is it about the social liberals that makes them so fixated on embryonic stem cell usage?

    Either:

    a) they hate God, or
    b) they want to be gods.

    My money’s on b.

  12. Hamous Avatar

    Darren rhetorically queried last night:

    Now, what is it about the social liberals that makes them so fixated on embryonic stem cell usage?

    Either:
    a) they hate God, or
    b) they want to be gods.
    My money’s on b.

  13. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    #6

    Heh. Yeah it’s more of a rivalry than hate.

  14. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #6
    Heh. Yeah it’s more of a rivalry than hate.

  15. Dude42 Avatar

    Pursuant to today’s risk avoidance theme

    Americans did not oust Democrats in droves because they wanted these kinds of “sensible bipartisan solutions.” “Bipartisanship” is a euphemism for avoiding risk and tolerating a wayward status quo. Little wonder that the word trips effortlessly off the tongues of professional politicians: Their influence depends on the status quo’s increasing concentration of power in Washington. Americans ousted Democrats in droves because they want the status quo changed and power over their lives transferred from Washington to themselves. That means fighting to reform relics like the Clean Air Act without fear of being caricatured as against clean air. It doesn’t mean sitting safely on the sidelines while the Left sees what it can get done in the courts.
    Before the midterm elections, Republicans talked a good game about fighting the predicament they helped put us in. Now, it is time for the actual fighting. That will take thick skin and stiff spines. Without copious reserves of both, the new lease will be very short indeed.

    Time for a good, old-fashioned, bare-knuckle brawl. Bipartisanship be damned.

  16. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Yep, “bipartisan” has a nice rosy sound, when in fact it means compomise of principle.

  17. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Yep, “bipartisan” has a nice rosy sound, when in fact it means compomise of principle.

  18. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #8, #9 Probably the only thing Jim Hightower ever said that I agree with: There’s nothing in the middle of the road but yellow stripes and dead armadillos.

  19. Hamous Avatar

    #8, #9 Probably the only thing Jim Hightower ever said that I agree with: There’s nothing in the middle of the road but yellow stripes and dead armadillos.

  20. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Now, what is it about the social liberals that makes them so fixated on embryonic stem cell usage?

    Personally, I think that its an attempt to create anew profit center for abortion clinics. The insurance on clinics must be realtively high, and probably the malpractice insurance. I’d imagine that having something to sell would increase profit potential. We’d likely see “discount” abortions for women who sign a release enabling the clinics to sell thier aborted fetus and, if demand is high enough, “professional” fetus growers similar to those who sell blood who cash in every couple of months.

    Its something right out of the mind Ray Bradbury, Aldous Huxley, or George Orwell

  21. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Now, what is it about the social liberals that makes them so fixated on embryonic stem cell usage?

    Personally, I think that its an attempt to create anew profit center for abortion clinics. The insurance on clinics must be realtively high, and probably the malpractice insurance. I’d imagine that having something to sell would increase profit potential. We’d likely see “discount” abortions for women who sign a release enabling the clinics to sell thier aborted fetus and, if demand is high enough, “professional” fetus growers similar to those who sell blood who cash in every couple of months.
    Its something right out of the mind Ray Bradbury, Aldous Huxley, or George Orwell

  22. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    The real question is will the Mexicans learn to speak Chinese or will the Chinese have to learn to speak Spanish? While we may think the Mexicans have a good foothold on the future of the United States, just wait until the Chinese decide to start sending a few starter families over here. Once their people find out there is no limit on the number of children a woman can throw off over here, they’ll make the Mexican invasion look like a practice run.

  23. El Gordo Avatar

    The real question is will the Mexicans learn to speak Chinese or will the Chinese have to learn to speak Spanish? While we may think the Mexicans have a good foothold on the future of the United States, just wait until the Chinese decide to start sending a few starter families over here. Once their people find out there is no limit on the number of children a woman can throw off over here, they’ll make the Mexican invasion look like a practice run.

  24. Hamous Avatar

    Super Dave:
    From your spaced out linkie yesterday, repeated here: I really like #16 as it shows THE PROMISED LAND from the western border, the Nile :>)

  25. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Super Dave:
    From your spaced out linkie yesterday, repeated here: I really like #16 as it shows THE PROMISED LAND from the western border, the Nile :>)

  26. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    I will gladly pay you NEXT Tuesday for a hamburger today.

  27. squawkbox Avatar

    I will gladly pay you NEXT Tuesday for a hamburger today.

  28. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I’m getting awfully tired of professional politicians and self important pundits telling me why I voted isn’t the reason I voted.

    They do that because they think we’re all acting and thinking individually like we used to. In the Bad Old Days, they could use their media power to figuratively tell us “YOU might think that way, but nobody else does.”

    Thier problem is that we’re now exchanging information and opinions, and more and more of us are realizing that we’re not alone in our thoughts and opinions—and the reasons why we voted. Much the same thing happened with the advent of talk radio, but whats going on now is the talk radio effect on steriods.

    We all have a circle of friends and relatives. This place here is a circle formed by the intersection of each of our own personal circles. We can enter other such circles and expand our voice exponentially. While some of these political jerkwads will take the stand that each of us might represent, at most, 60 votes, they haven’t factored in the math involved in how each of those votes might affect others.

    The Speakers race right now is an illustration of that effect. In the beginning, the Establishment types thought that they controlled the debate. After all, they reasoned, they got us to vote the way they wanted us to. They reasoned that they were the ones who made it happen. They thought it was thier voice that was heard above all others, patted themselves on the back, then set out to use this new found power to convince us to vote the way they tell us to. Now, they are whining and crying, making allegations of conspiracies and tossing out So-Con villians as the reason why things aren’t going the way they wanted it to go.

    Their problem is that we have something more than a vote now. We can affect the opinions of others just as effectively as they can, but can do it with the credibility that comes from a personal relationship rather than the kind that comes from reading a newspaper or blog, or listening to TV or radio. We also have a means of running primary candidates that they cannot control. No longer do we have to play by thier rules. No longer can they demean us for not being “as involved as I’ve been.” We no longer have to join thier rigidly controlled top down management structure that demands we vote for whomever they think has the next turn. We don’t have to be a member of thier Party to have an affect on it.

    And their big problem is, now that we’ve discovered we can do it—now that we’ve found out its not the rocket surgery they’ve been telling us for years that it is—-we’re using the power that we’ve found. Or, more correctly, the power we’ve always had but were not allowed to use because they controlled the machinery.

  29. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I’m getting awfully tired of professional politicians and self important pundits telling me why I voted isn’t the reason I voted.
    They do that because they think we’re all acting and thinking individually like we used to. In the Bad Old Days, they could use their media power to figuratively tell us “YOU might think that way, but nobody else does.”
    Thier problem is that we’re now exchanging information and opinions, and more and more of us are realizing that we’re not alone in our thoughts and opinions—and the reasons why we voted. Much the same thing happened with the advent of talk radio, but whats going on now is the talk radio effect on steriods.
    We all have a circle of friends and relatives. This place here is a circle formed by the intersection of each of our own personal circles. We can enter other such circles and expand our voice exponentially. While some of these political jerkwads will take the stand that each of us might represent, at most, 60 votes, they haven’t factored in the math involved in how each of those votes might affect others.
    The Speakers race right now is an illustration of that effect. In the beginning, the Establishment types thought that they controlled the debate. After all, they reasoned, they got us to vote the way they wanted us to. They reasoned that they were the ones who made it happen. They thought it was thier voice that was heard above all others, patted themselves on the back, then set out to use this new found power to convince us to vote the way they tell us to. Now, they are whining and crying, making allegations of conspiracies and tossing out So-Con villians as the reason why things aren’t going the way they wanted it to go.
    Their problem is that we have something more than a vote now. We can affect the opinions of others just as effectively as they can, but can do it with the credibility that comes from a personal relationship rather than the kind that comes from reading a newspaper or blog, or listening to TV or radio. We also have a means of running primary candidates that they cannot control. No longer do we have to play by thier rules. No longer can they demean us for not being “as involved as I’ve been.” We no longer have to join thier rigidly controlled top down management structure that demands we vote for whomever they think has the next turn. We don’t have to be a member of thier Party to have an affect on it.
    And their big problem is, now that we’ve discovered we can do it—now that we’ve found out its not the rocket surgery they’ve been telling us for years that it is—-we’re using the power that we’ve found. Or, more correctly, the power we’ve always had but were not allowed to use because they controlled the machinery.

  30. Hamous Avatar

    #14 Squawkmaster: The real costs to that burger are the 100 year old bottle of balsamic vinegar and the bottle of Dom Perrrrrrignon champaigne. And why would anyone want to defile Kobe beef with sea cockroach is a mystery to me.

  31. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #14 Squawkmaster: The real costs to that burger are the 100 year old bottle of balsamic vinegar and the bottle of Dom Perrrrrrignon champaigne. And why would anyone want to defile Kobe beef with sea cockroach is a mystery to me.

  32. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Every sitcom on ABC is practically mandated to crack the same jokes yet this guy gets fired for it. When our Armed Forces become a bunch of silly nannies we may as well toss in the towel.

  33. Hamous Avatar

    Every sitcom on ABC is practically mandated to crack the same jokes yet this guy gets fired for it. When our Armed Forces become a bunch of silly nannies we may as well toss in the towel.

  34. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Bonez
    I like sea cockroach. I’ll will give you the Dom and gladly pay you next Tuesday for a hamburger today.

  35. squawkbox Avatar

    Bonez
    I like sea cockroach. I’ll will give you the Dom and gladly pay you next Tuesday for a hamburger today.

  36. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    I like mudbugs too.

  37. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #13 Bonecrusher Did you read any of the comments? Yesterday there were several references to God and today there’s people complaining about the discussion. I don’t see how anyone could LQQk at the pictures and say that there is no God.

  38. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #13 Bonecrusher Did you read any of the comments? Yesterday there were several references to God and today there’s people complaining about the discussion. I don’t see how anyone could LQQk at the pictures and say that there is no God.

  39. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    100 year old bottle of balsamic vinegar = $550
    Dom Perignon 2002 = $149.99

  40. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    100 year old bottle of balsamic vinegar = $550
    Dom Perignon 2002 = $149.99

  41. Tedtam Avatar

    Re the embryonic stem cell (aka – early pregnancy abortion) issue.

    All previous points are true. By negating the value of the embryo by making it’s cells “replacement parts”, abortion lowers the moral hurdle for those who may have a problem making that jump; e.g., “Well, we’re not ready for a baby yet, and we may save someone’s life, so let’s let some scientist kill our embryonic child and we’ll wait until a more convenient time. In the meantime, you’ll get on the pill and we can continue to party on without consequences!”

    Embryonic stem cell research is another attempt by the liberals to make human life less sacred, which has all sorts of ramifications. End of life “counseling”. Less reliance on God by pushing him out of our lives. Breaking of moral compasses everywhere. All of these are fodder for the liberal agenda of having the government run our lives. After all, if we’re not important enough to live, who minds having someone control our lives anyway?

    I am off to run errands. Must go get a boiler part before the next cold front comes through. We’ve managed without heat for the last four days. Not that I mind not having the gas bill, I can’t count on our well-insulated house to keep us comfortably warm when it drops below freezing again.

  42. Tedtam Avatar

    Re the embryonic stem cell (aka – early pregnancy abortion) issue.
    All previous points are true. By negating the value of the embryo by making it’s cells “replacement parts”, abortion lowers the moral hurdle for those who may have a problem making that jump; e.g., “Well, we’re not ready for a baby yet, and we may save someone’s life, so let’s let some scientist kill our embryonic child and we’ll wait until a more convenient time. In the meantime, you’ll get on the pill and we can continue to party on without consequences!”
    Embryonic stem cell research is another attempt by the liberals to make human life less sacred, which has all sorts of ramifications. End of life “counseling”. Less reliance on God by pushing him out of our lives. Breaking of moral compasses everywhere. All of these are fodder for the liberal agenda of having the government run our lives. After all, if we’re not important enough to live, who minds having someone control our lives anyway?
    I am off to run errands. Must go get a boiler part before the next cold front comes through. We’ve managed without heat for the last four days. Not that I mind not having the gas bill, I can’t count on our well-insulated house to keep us comfortably warm when it drops below freezing again.

  43. El Gordo Avatar

    Bob posted a link to an article on Gary Johnson not long ago, in connection with a possible presidential run. Here is an NRO article on Mr. Johnson. Like Bob, I’m skeptical Gary Johnson could win, but I am intrigued nonetheless.

  44. Dude42 Avatar

    Bob posted a link to an article on Gary Johnson not long ago, in connection with a possible presidential run. Here is an NRO article on Mr. Johnson. Like Bob, I’m skeptical Gary Johnson could win, but I am intrigued nonetheless.

  45. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    100 year old bottle of balsamic vinegar = $550
    Dom Perignon 2002 = $149.99

    I worry about extra toppings on the pizza.

  46. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    100 year old bottle of balsamic vinegar = $550
    Dom Perignon 2002 = $149.99

    I worry about extra toppings on the pizza.

  47. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Embryonic stem cell research is another attempt by the liberals to make human life less sacred, which has all sorts of ramifications. End of life “counseling”. Less reliance on God by pushing him out of our lives. Breaking of moral compasses everywhere. All of these are fodder for the liberal agenda of having the government run our lives. After all, if we’re not important enough to live, who minds having someone control our lives anyway?

    Soundsa like you’re one of those scary So-cons that are going to subvert the Tea Party and destroy the Republican Party.

    Welcome.

    A Republican sees a Social Conservative as a threat.
    A Fiscal Conservative sees him as an ally.

  48. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Embryonic stem cell research is another attempt by the liberals to make human life less sacred, which has all sorts of ramifications. End of life “counseling”. Less reliance on God by pushing him out of our lives. Breaking of moral compasses everywhere. All of these are fodder for the liberal agenda of having the government run our lives. After all, if we’re not important enough to live, who minds having someone control our lives anyway?

    Soundsa like you’re one of those scary So-cons that are going to subvert the Tea Party and destroy the Republican Party.
    Welcome.
    A Republican sees a Social Conservative as a threat.
    A Fiscal Conservative sees him as an ally.

  49. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I’m immediately suspicious of any candidate Bob42 would support. But then I have to remind myself that Bob42’s not a libertarian. I looked at Johnson’s position on the issues the other day:

    * excellent fiscal conservative
    * doesn’t support gay marriage
    * pragmatic immigration policy
    * never raised taxes
    * stands strong with Israel
    * supported legislation that banned late term abortions

    Can’t figure out why Bob42 would support him. Oh wait:

    * legalize marijuana

  50. Hamous Avatar

    I’m immediately suspicious of any candidate Bob42 would support. But then I have to remind myself that Bob42’s not a libertarian. I looked at Johnson’s position on the issues the other day:
    * excellent fiscal conservative
    * doesn’t support gay marriage
    * pragmatic immigration policy
    * never raised taxes
    * stands strong with Israel
    * supported legislation that banned late term abortions
    Can’t figure out why Bob42 would support him. Oh wait:
    * legalize marijuana

  51. El Gordo Avatar

    I’m not in complete agreement with Gary Johnson’s positions, but on the biggest one (fiscal responsibility) he does appear to walk the walk as well as talk the talk. I’ll be keeping my eyes peeled for a presidential run from him. I could see me donating money to him if you asked me right now.

  52. Dude42 Avatar

    I’m not in complete agreement with Gary Johnson’s positions, but on the biggest one (fiscal responsibility) he does appear to walk the walk as well as talk the talk. I’ll be keeping my eyes peeled for a presidential run from him. I could see me donating money to him if you asked me right now.

  53. meglettx Avatar

    “bob420’s not a libertarian”

    “agitator”, perhaps?

  54. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    “bob420’s not a libertarian”
    “agitator”, perhaps?

  55. Hamous Avatar

    re: EMBRYONIC Stem Cell Research: Have their been any successes with EMBRYONIC stem cell research? I have read of several promising avenues with ADULT stem cells but embryonic stem cells, to my knowledge, have produced nothing but tumors and cancer. A prudent person would exhaust all efforts with ADULT stem cells first BEFORE targeting embryonic stem cells. Isn’t it interesting that this key distinction is never made in the lamestream media?
    The Healthcare “reform” debate is not about healthcare but about how to pay for it.
    Illegal Immigration; anyone opposed to illegalimmigration is automatically branded “anti-immigrant” and the lefty terd-nozzles always conveniently leave off the key phrase, which is Illegal.

  56. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    re: EMBRYONIC Stem Cell Research: Have their been any successes with EMBRYONIC stem cell research? I have read of several promising avenues with ADULT stem cells but embryonic stem cells, to my knowledge, have produced nothing but tumors and cancer. A prudent person would exhaust all efforts with ADULT stem cells first BEFORE targeting embryonic stem cells. Isn’t it interesting that this key distinction is never made in the lamestream media?
    The Healthcare “reform” debate is not about healthcare but about how to pay for it.
    Illegal Immigration; anyone opposed to illegalimmigration is automatically branded “anti-immigrant” and the lefty terd-nozzles always conveniently leave off the key phrase, which is Illegal.

  57. meglettx Avatar

    how about “liberaltarian”?

  58. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    how about “liberaltarian”?

  59. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Remember folks, always practice safe sex.
    or
    Not tonight honey I have a headache.

  60. squawkbox Avatar

    Remember folks, always practice safe sex.
    or
    Not tonight honey I have a headache.

  61. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #23 Dude

    Johnson served as governor of the Land of Enchantment, where Democrats outnumber Republicans two-to-one. During his tenure, he vetoed more bills than the other 49 governors combined — 750 in total, one third of which had been introduced by Republican legislators. Johnson also used his line-item-veto power thousands of times. He credits his heavy veto pen for eliminating New Mexico’s budget deficit and cutting the growth rate of New Mexico’s government in half.

    I can dig that! And you know that IS all it takes.

  62. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #23 Dude

    Johnson served as governor of the Land of Enchantment, where Democrats outnumber Republicans two-to-one. During his tenure, he vetoed more bills than the other 49 governors combined — 750 in total, one third of which had been introduced by Republican legislators. Johnson also used his line-item-veto power thousands of times. He credits his heavy veto pen for eliminating New Mexico’s budget deficit and cutting the growth rate of New Mexico’s government in half.

    I can dig that! And you know that IS all it takes.

  63. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Oh good and just when you thought it was safe to fly with Santa.

  64. squawkbox Avatar

    Oh good and just when you thought it was safe to fly with Santa.

  65. Hamous Avatar

    #32 Squawk: I guess “cougar” season is not yet closed; she was 50 and he is 23.

  66. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #32 Squawk: I guess “cougar” season is not yet closed; she was 50 and he is 23.

  67. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #31 “liberaltarian” is good, but the best description I’ve seen is libertine.

  68. Hamous Avatar

    #31 “liberaltarian” is good, but the best description I’ve seen is libertine.

  69. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    I am speechless.

    Prolly a good thing too

  70. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Bonze
    Yeah I saw that. Frankly I am having a bit of a struggle with the concept of a handgun as an aid to ummmm well you know.

  71. squawkbox Avatar

    Bonze
    Yeah I saw that. Frankly I am having a bit of a struggle with the concept of a handgun as an aid to ummmm well you know.

  72. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Bonze
    And thought that too. LOL

  73. squawkbox Avatar

    Bonze
    And thought that too. LOL

  74. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    And finally a nod to B-42 our resident libertine.

    I suppose that may be one way to get out of jury duty.

  75. squawkbox Avatar

    And finally a nod to B-42 our resident libertine.
    I suppose that may be one way to get out of jury duty.

  76. Hamous Avatar

    #40 Squawk: Money quote:

    “The American populace over the last 10 years or so has begun to believe in a majority that assigning criminal penalties for the personal possession of marijuana is an unjust and a stupid use of government resources.”

    I have to wholeheartedly concur.

  77. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #40 Squawk: Money quote:

    “The American populace over the last 10 years or so has begun to believe in a majority that assigning criminal penalties for the personal possession of marijuana is an unjust and a stupid use of government resources.”

    I have to wholeheartedly concur.

  78. Hamous Avatar

    #37 Squawk: money quote:

    One of their clients, Sherman Oaks-based writer Lanee Neil, said she prefers the V-Steam to the harshness of a douche and thinks of it as a “facial” for her private area.

    perhaps I should have followed your lead and remained speechless.

  79. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #37 Squawk: money quote:

    One of their clients, Sherman Oaks-based writer Lanee Neil, said she prefers the V-Steam to the harshness of a douche and thinks of it as a “facial” for her private area.

    perhaps I should have followed your lead and remained speechless.

  80. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Squawk #18, 19
    sea cockroach… mudbugs…

    None for me, thanks. Growing up in West Texas some decades ago, seafood was not on the menu. Result is the most adventurous arthropod I am able to eat is breaded shrimp. It’s close enough to the fish sticks I had as a kid to resemble food in my tiny brain — rather than biological lab specimens.

  81. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Squawk #18, 19
    sea cockroach… mudbugs…
    None for me, thanks. Growing up in West Texas some decades ago, seafood was not on the menu. Result is the most adventurous arthropod I am able to eat is breaded shrimp. It’s close enough to the fish sticks I had as a kid to resemble food in my tiny brain — rather than biological lab specimens.

  82. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Honey West has passed on.

    The show didn’t last long, but it did make an impression on at least one 13 year old Yankee.

    As the glamorous Honey, Ms. Francis was outfitted in an eye-catching wardrobe that included a black snakeskin trench coat, a white beaded gown trimmed in sable and a tiger-skin bathing suit with matching cape.

  83. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Honey West has passed on.
    The show didn’t last long, but it did make an impression on at least one 13 year old Yankee.

    As the glamorous Honey, Ms. Francis was outfitted in an eye-catching wardrobe that included a black snakeskin trench coat, a white beaded gown trimmed in sable and a tiger-skin bathing suit with matching cape.

  84. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #32 Squawk

    A real winning couple, from their ages & his mug shot

  85. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #32 Squawk
    A real winning couple, from their ages & his mug shot

  86. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    mharper42
    My first solid food when I was a baby cajun was crawfish etouffee. I have been hooked on seafood of all types since. My Dad, being a Maine Yankee, introduced me to lobster, i luv the stuff so I will just have to eat your share. 🙂

  87. squawkbox Avatar

    mharper42
    My first solid food when I was a baby cajun was crawfish etouffee. I have been hooked on seafood of all types since. My Dad, being a Maine Yankee, introduced me to lobster, i luv the stuff so I will just have to eat your share. 🙂

  88. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #40 Squawk

    Yeah, our Bobsy Boy praised the Runaway Jury Pool when that story first broke.

  89. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #40 Squawk
    Yeah, our Bobsy Boy praised the Runaway Jury Pool when that story first broke.

  90. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    None for me, thanks. Growing up in West Texas some decades ago, seafood was not on the menu. Result is the most adventurous arthropod I am able to eat is breaded shrimp. It’s close enough to the fish sticks I had as a kid to resemble food in my tiny brain — rather than biological lab specimens.

    I feel sorry for all y’all who didn’t have the chance to go to the sea shore and dive down to pluck lobsters off the bottom. As a kid, the men folk and young men of a couple of famblies would get together and drive to a place called Phillip’s Cove just up the coast from Kittery, Maine. It was the site of an isolated and abandoned WW2 observation post with a three story tower used to watch for German subs. A couple of bunkers and gun pads added to the possiblities for adventures of imagination for the young guys. We sunk us a mess of Natzi subs over the course of a few summers.

    We’d don snorkles and fins and half of the men folk would go spearfishing for flounder, the other half would pick up lobster. It was kind of illegal to catch lobster that way, probably still is. We’d put the lobster in burlap sacks, then toss the flounder in on top of them in case a game warden got curious as we were driving out. No limit on trash fish.

    We’d end up with between 30-50 lobster, take ’em home along with a couple of pounds of seaweed and a few gallons of sea water. Boil them bubbies up in the sea water and seaweed in a big pot ma had that covered all four burners on the stove. Three picnic tables would be lined up in the back yard with with cole slaw and salad fresh from the garden, and platter after platter of hot steaming lobster would be brought out.

    When everybody had their fill, we divied up the remaining lobster between the families and everybody would take them home. Ma would make lobster salad and freeze it. I was the only kid in school with lobster salad sandwiches in January.

    But I’d not move back up there just so I could do it again. Them days is gone. Phillp’s Cove is now the site of an up scale yuppee McMansion farm, and I have too many better reasons to stay in Texas.

  91. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    None for me, thanks. Growing up in West Texas some decades ago, seafood was not on the menu. Result is the most adventurous arthropod I am able to eat is breaded shrimp. It’s close enough to the fish sticks I had as a kid to resemble food in my tiny brain — rather than biological lab specimens.

    I feel sorry for all y’all who didn’t have the chance to go to the sea shore and dive down to pluck lobsters off the bottom. As a kid, the men folk and young men of a couple of famblies would get together and drive to a place called Phillip’s Cove just up the coast from Kittery, Maine. It was the site of an isolated and abandoned WW2 observation post with a three story tower used to watch for German subs. A couple of bunkers and gun pads added to the possiblities for adventures of imagination for the young guys. We sunk us a mess of Natzi subs over the course of a few summers.
    We’d don snorkles and fins and half of the men folk would go spearfishing for flounder, the other half would pick up lobster. It was kind of illegal to catch lobster that way, probably still is. We’d put the lobster in burlap sacks, then toss the flounder in on top of them in case a game warden got curious as we were driving out. No limit on trash fish.
    We’d end up with between 30-50 lobster, take ’em home along with a couple of pounds of seaweed and a few gallons of sea water. Boil them bubbies up in the sea water and seaweed in a big pot ma had that covered all four burners on the stove. Three picnic tables would be lined up in the back yard with with cole slaw and salad fresh from the garden, and platter after platter of hot steaming lobster would be brought out.
    When everybody had their fill, we divied up the remaining lobster between the families and everybody would take them home. Ma would make lobster salad and freeze it. I was the only kid in school with lobster salad sandwiches in January.
    But I’d not move back up there just so I could do it again. Them days is gone. Phillp’s Cove is now the site of an up scale yuppee McMansion farm, and I have too many better reasons to stay in Texas.

  92. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #46 Squawk

    I will just have to eat your share

    Before the Recession, the big company I work for still picked up the tab for departmental luncheons after milestone events. Most popular place when we were working in Sugar Land was a Pappadeaux on the SW Frwy. I had co-workers sitting next to me because they knew I wouldn’t eat much of whatever I ordered. I’m not sure to this day what shrimp etouffee is, but I was glad to pass that bowl along to someone else.

    So you can definitely have my share 🙂

  93. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #46 Squawk

    I will just have to eat your share

    Before the Recession, the big company I work for still picked up the tab for departmental luncheons after milestone events. Most popular place when we were working in Sugar Land was a Pappadeaux on the SW Frwy. I had co-workers sitting next to me because they knew I wouldn’t eat much of whatever I ordered. I’m not sure to this day what shrimp etouffee is, but I was glad to pass that bowl along to someone else.
    So you can definitely have my share 🙂

  94. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #44 Sarge
    [Robby the Robot has been asked to duplicate whiskey]
    Would 60 gallons be sufficient?

  95. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #44 Sarge
    [Robby the Robot has been asked to duplicate whiskey]
    Would 60 gallons be sufficient?

  96. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Gary Johnson supports civil unions and so do I, even though their recognition is prohibited by mob rule the Texas constitution. He has one of the most rational approaches to immigration I’ve seen. (The Libertarian candidate for Texas governor ran on sending the Texas National Guard to the border, but was clueless about how to pay for it.)

    He’s fiscally conservative, socially reasonable, and has a sense of humor to boot. He’s got my vote even though the republican establishment will “RonPaul” him and it’s far from likely that he will win the nom.

    btw, Ultimately, legalization/decriminalization of cannabis is inevitable, and it’s high time the big government loving authoritarian social engineers accepted that fact.

  97. bob42 Avatar

    Gary Johnson supports civil unions and so do I, even though their recognition is prohibited by mob rule the Texas constitution. He has one of the most rational approaches to immigration I’ve seen. (The Libertarian candidate for Texas governor ran on sending the Texas National Guard to the border, but was clueless about how to pay for it.)
    He’s fiscally conservative, socially reasonable, and has a sense of humor to boot. He’s got my vote even though the republican establishment will “RonPaul” him and it’s far from likely that he will win the nom.
    btw, Ultimately, legalization/decriminalization of cannabis is inevitable, and it’s high time the big government loving authoritarian social engineers accepted that fact.

  98. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I love it when a PhD summa cum laude social engineer accuses traditionalists of social engineering. It’s like Bill Clinton lecturing a couple married for 75 years on fidelity.

  99. Hamous Avatar

    I love it when a PhD summa cum laude social engineer accuses traditionalists of social engineering. It’s like Bill Clinton lecturing a couple married for 75 years on fidelity.

  100. Hamous Avatar

    So you think that your private retirement fund is safe?? The euro-terd-nozzles are starting to seize them. I wonder how long it will take for this to happen here? Remember that the foul “O” even floated a trial balloon about this very scheme about 18 months ago. He proposed to nationalize all IRA’s into the social “security” fund to make it more fair.
    Money quote from the article:

    It looks like although the governments are able to enforce general participation in pension schemes, they do not seem to be the best guardians of the money accumulated there.

    The block quote pegs out my “No Sh!t Sherlock-O-Meter”.

  101. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    So you think that your private retirement fund is safe?? The euro-terd-nozzles are starting to seize them. I wonder how long it will take for this to happen here? Remember that the foul “O” even floated a trial balloon about this very scheme about 18 months ago. He proposed to nationalize all IRA’s into the social “security” fund to make it more fair.
    Money quote from the article:

    It looks like although the governments are able to enforce general participation in pension schemes, they do not seem to be the best guardians of the money accumulated there.

    The block quote pegs out my “No Sh!t Sherlock-O-Meter”.

  102. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Hamous, you are completely irrational and illogical, as usual. I’m engineering nothing. I support freedom and personal responsibility. You seem to support a big powerful government that controls peoples lives according to your personal concepts of how others should live.

    You sir, are the epitome of authoritarianism.

  103. bob42 Avatar

    Hamous, you are completely irrational and illogical, as usual. I’m engineering nothing. I support freedom and personal responsibility. You seem to support a big powerful government that controls peoples lives according to your personal concepts of how others should live.
    You sir, are the epitome of authoritarianism.

  104. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Bob42
    /I JUST cannot help myself

    Hambone is a not-so-benevolent dictator. He will allow almost anything submitted as long as there is no profanity. Language is only offensive if it offends someone. The test is, if your comments would offend Hambone’s grandmother they will be deleted and you will be banned from posting further comments. Hambone hates racists of any color. If your comments contain any racist bent to them they will be deleted and you will be banned toot sweet. If any of this is a problem, Hambone suggests you start your own blog.

    BLOGMONKEY EMPHASIZES OPERATIVE SUGGESTION

    /retirement looks good on me.

  105. squawkbox Avatar

    Bob42
    /I JUST cannot help myself

    Hambone is a not-so-benevolent dictator. He will allow almost anything submitted as long as there is no profanity. Language is only offensive if it offends someone. The test is, if your comments would offend Hambone’s grandmother they will be deleted and you will be banned from posting further comments. Hambone hates racists of any color. If your comments contain any racist bent to them they will be deleted and you will be banned toot sweet. If any of this is a problem, Hambone suggests you start your own blog.
    BLOGMONKEY EMPHASIZES OPERATIVE SUGGESTION

    /retirement looks good on me.

  106. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    mharper42

    Pappadeaux on the SW Frwy

    OMG I can understand your aversion to seafood. Not trying to persuade you to try seafood again I know that is a useless proposition. I do not eat at “popular” ratsraunchs like PapaDs. They are like box store home improvement places, no matter the name on the marquis, the producy is all the same. My fish and seafood has gotta be fresh. You know, like “The fish on the menu woke up in the gulf today” fresh.

  107. squawkbox Avatar

    mharper42

    Pappadeaux on the SW Frwy

    OMG I can understand your aversion to seafood. Not trying to persuade you to try seafood again I know that is a useless proposition. I do not eat at “popular” ratsraunchs like PapaDs. They are like box store home improvement places, no matter the name on the marquis, the producy is all the same. My fish and seafood has gotta be fresh. You know, like “The fish on the menu woke up in the gulf today” fresh.

  108. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    This can be such a good thing, and such a bad thing.

    Last year Obama flew in Air Force One 172 times, almost every other day.

    White House officials have been telling reporters in recent days that the Democrat doesn’t intend to hang around the White House quite so much in 2011.

    Remember, this is the guy who says that people don’t like Obamacare because he was too busy in Washington to get his message out.

  109. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    This can be such a good thing, and such a bad thing.

    Last year Obama flew in Air Force One 172 times, almost every other day.
    White House officials have been telling reporters in recent days that the Democrat doesn’t intend to hang around the White House quite so much in 2011.

    Remember, this is the guy who says that people don’t like Obamacare because he was too busy in Washington to get his message out.

  110. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    OMG I can understand your aversion to seafood. Not trying to persuade you to try seafood again I know that is a useless proposition. I do not eat at “popular” ratsraunchs like PapaDs. They are like box store home improvement places, no matter the name on the marquis, the producy is all the same. My fish and seafood has gotta be fresh. You know, like “The fish on the menu woke up in the gulf today” fresh.

    There’s a littel seafood place right down the road here on 90A that fits the bill. Right across the street from Larry’s.

    A regualr food mecca that hunnert yards of road is.

  111. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    OMG I can understand your aversion to seafood. Not trying to persuade you to try seafood again I know that is a useless proposition. I do not eat at “popular” ratsraunchs like PapaDs. They are like box store home improvement places, no matter the name on the marquis, the producy is all the same. My fish and seafood has gotta be fresh. You know, like “The fish on the menu woke up in the gulf today” fresh.

    There’s a littel seafood place right down the road here on 90A that fits the bill. Right across the street from Larry’s.
    A regualr food mecca that hunnert yards of road is.

  112. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #56 Squawk, I’m in full agreement on the “seafood” box stores. I grew up catching mud bugs from the bayou in front of our house, and have lived in places such as Cameron, Houma, and Galveston for most of the time since then.

    If it ain’t fresh, it ain’t worth the trouble.

  113. bob42 Avatar

    #56 Squawk, I’m in full agreement on the “seafood” box stores. I grew up catching mud bugs from the bayou in front of our house, and have lived in places such as Cameron, Houma, and Galveston for most of the time since then.
    If it ain’t fresh, it ain’t worth the trouble.

  114. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Summa cum Laude, bobby boy, Summa cum Laude…and a minor in Cultural Marxism.

  115. Hamous Avatar

    Summa cum Laude, bobby boy, Summa cum Laude…and a minor in Cultural Marxism.

  116. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #60 Dude, get your own stash. You’ve been in mine so much I’m nearly out.

    A little advice: Stay away from the shrooms too. You’re seeing things that just aren’t there.

  117. bob42 Avatar

    #60 Dude, get your own stash. You’ve been in mine so much I’m nearly out.
    A little advice: Stay away from the shrooms too. You’re seeing things that just aren’t there.

  118. El Gordo Avatar

    Three picnic tables would be lined up in the back yard with with cole slaw and salad fresh from the garden, and platter after platter of hot steaming lobster would be brought out.

    Holy cow. My stomach just went audible reading that. Is it supper time yet?

  119. Dude42 Avatar

    Three picnic tables would be lined up in the back yard with with cole slaw and salad fresh from the garden, and platter after platter of hot steaming lobster would be brought out.

    Holy cow. My stomach just went audible reading that. Is it supper time yet?

  120. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Holy cow. My stomach just went audible reading that. Is it supper time yet?

    I could spoil it all with stories about flounder chowder being consumed for weeks on end.

    But I won’t.

  121. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Holy cow. My stomach just went audible reading that. Is it supper time yet?

    I could spoil it all with stories about flounder chowder being consumed for weeks on end.
    But I won’t.

  122. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    B42
    I refuse to insult my taste buds at chain ratsraunches. Back in the day when I worked for a living truckin across this country I ate at some damn fine Mom and Pop kitchens. Man once you have had the best…… forget the rest. Forget delivery times, I timed my run around which diner/restaurant/eatery was in my way.

    Real homemade bread, biscuits and pies. right from the garden vegetables, FRESH hours old seafood. You name it. No way I was eating at some truckstop or Jack in the Crack. I would drive a hundred miles oit of my way to eat.

    Let me dispel a lie that has been propagated over the years too. Just because some place has a bazillion trucks parked around it does not mean the food is good. It only means there is a place for the truckers to park.

  123. squawkbox Avatar

    B42
    I refuse to insult my taste buds at chain ratsraunches. Back in the day when I worked for a living truckin across this country I ate at some damn fine Mom and Pop kitchens. Man once you have had the best…… forget the rest. Forget delivery times, I timed my run around which diner/restaurant/eatery was in my way.
    Real homemade bread, biscuits and pies. right from the garden vegetables, FRESH hours old seafood. You name it. No way I was eating at some truckstop or Jack in the Crack. I would drive a hundred miles oit of my way to eat.
    Let me dispel a lie that has been propagated over the years too. Just because some place has a bazillion trucks parked around it does not mean the food is good. It only means there is a place for the truckers to park.

  124. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I think I found the perfect woman (…with a capital ‘C’) for Dr. Bob42, PhD SE. A match made in ….. whatever.

  125. Hamous Avatar

    I think I found the perfect woman (…with a capital ‘C’) for Dr. Bob42, PhD SE. A match made in ….. whatever.

  126. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Back in the day when I worked for a living truckin across this country I ate at some damn fine Mom and Pop kitchens

    We’ve had this conversation before:

    Stacked enchiladas at La Fonda in Deming.

    Meersburger in Meers OK

    Elizabeth used to say that the lobster at Warren’s in Kittery, ME was so good it made her cry.

    I got a coupon.

    Who wants to drive?

  127. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Back in the day when I worked for a living truckin across this country I ate at some damn fine Mom and Pop kitchens

    We’ve had this conversation before:
    Stacked enchiladas at La Fonda in Deming.
    Meersburger in Meers OK
    Elizabeth used to say that the lobster at Warren’s in Kittery, ME was so good it made her cry.
    I got a coupon.
    Who wants to drive?

  128. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Gee, Hamous. And I didn’t get you anything. Thanks, no thanks. Even I could do a better standup than that gal. And I suck at standup.

  129. bob42 Avatar

    Gee, Hamous. And I didn’t get you anything. Thanks, no thanks. Even I could do a better standup than that gal. And I suck at standup.

  130. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    66 Sarge,

    My weakness is the little Mom & Pop screened-in barbeque joints that used to litter the backroads of Texas. Sadly, they are disappearing and being replaced by the “Liquid Smoke” joints that oven barbeque.

    Spicy Hot Hill Country Mesquite Barbeque and a cold beer. Now that is living!!

    Simple

  131. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    66 Sarge,
    My weakness is the little Mom & Pop screened-in barbeque joints that used to litter the backroads of Texas. Sadly, they are disappearing and being replaced by the “Liquid Smoke” joints that oven barbeque.
    Spicy Hot Hill Country Mesquite Barbeque and a cold beer. Now that is living!!
    Simple

  132. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #56 Squawk

    Well, I would have no way of knowing what is fine seafood — the others all liked it… My current idea of good seafood comes in yellow boxes that say Gorton’s.

  133. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #56 Squawk
    Well, I would have no way of knowing what is fine seafood — the others all liked it… My current idea of good seafood comes in yellow boxes that say Gorton’s.

  134. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #62 Dude

    Is it supper time yet?

    I enjoyed Sarge’s story about the group effort to bring in the catch and serve it up – it was a great story, and well told – but it didn’t make me hungry, sorry 🙂

  135. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #62 Dude

    Is it supper time yet?

    I enjoyed Sarge’s story about the group effort to bring in the catch and serve it up – it was a great story, and well told – but it didn’t make me hungry, sorry 🙂

  136. El Gordo Avatar

    No need to be sorry, but being from W. Texas doesn’t preclude liking seafood. When I was out there for vacation a while back I thought “Permian Basin Shrimp” was a joke when I read it on a menu, but nope, it’s the real deal.

  137. Dude42 Avatar

    No need to be sorry, but being from W. Texas doesn’t preclude liking seafood. When I was out there for vacation a while back I thought “Permian Basin Shrimp” was a joke when I read it on a menu, but nope, it’s the real deal.

  138. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I enjoyed Sarge’s story about the group effort to bring in the catch poach lobster and serve it up – it was a great story, and well told – but it didn’t make me hungry, sorry

    FIFY

    I believe that, at the time, the fine for catching lobster without a trap was $50 for the first one and $5 each for every one thereafter. That would have averaged about $200 a trip. In the ’60s, that was a lot of money for a Sears salesman with a fambly of 5.

    The, there’s the implcations of taking the ill gotten booty across the state line into NH.

    Excuse me while I go check the statute of limitations on this——

  139. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I enjoyed Sarge’s story about the group effort to bring in the catch poach lobster and serve it up – it was a great story, and well told – but it didn’t make me hungry, sorry

    FIFY
    I believe that, at the time, the fine for catching lobster without a trap was $50 for the first one and $5 each for every one thereafter. That would have averaged about $200 a trip. In the ’60s, that was a lot of money for a Sears salesman with a fambly of 5.
    The, there’s the implcations of taking the ill gotten booty across the state line into NH.
    Excuse me while I go check the statute of limitations on this——

  140. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #68 Simon

    Barbeque — speaking of company lunch outings, another popular spot was The Swinging Door way out in the country off of 90A on a series of winding roads. The barbeque was good but (unlike Squawk & Sarge) I hate long drives just to get some chow.

  141. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #68 Simon
    Barbeque — speaking of company lunch outings, another popular spot was The Swinging Door way out in the country off of 90A on a series of winding roads. The barbeque was good but (unlike Squawk & Sarge) I hate long drives just to get some chow.

  142. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #71 Dude

    That is “brine shrimp” to the max! Rehydrate part of the Permian Basin and raise seafood there (again) !

  143. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #71 Dude
    That is “brine shrimp” to the max! Rehydrate part of the Permian Basin and raise seafood there (again) !

  144. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    “Permian Basin Shrimp”

    That’s nothin.

    I can tell you where you can get scrod in Boston.

  145. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    “Permian Basin Shrimp”

    That’s nothin.
    I can tell you where you can get scrod in Boston.

  146. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I can tell you where you can get scrod in Boston.

    Yabut can you tell him where to get a shot to clear it up?

  147. Hamous Avatar

    I can tell you where you can get scrod in Boston.

    Yabut can you tell him where to get a shot to clear it up?

  148. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    No.

    But I can tell him where to get somethjing to put on it.

  149. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    No.
    But I can tell him where to get somethjing to put on it.

  150. Tedtam Avatar

    Hammy – your matchmaking effort for Bobby..

    …a match made….

    in the Twilight Zone?

    And for backroad eatin’, Hubby loved the onion rings at Ray’s Cafe near Smithville. It might still be open. Big pile o’ rings, they were.

  151. Tedtam Avatar

    Hammy – your matchmaking effort for Bobby..
    …a match made….
    in the Twilight Zone?
    And for backroad eatin’, Hubby loved the onion rings at Ray’s Cafe near Smithville. It might still be open. Big pile o’ rings, they were.

  152. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    The Outback Burger Barn on 180 between Menard and Bumtizzle—damfine burgers there.

    Great BBQ at a place just south of I10 in Junction.

  153. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    The Outback Burger Barn on 180 between Menard and Bumtizzle—damfine burgers there.
    Great BBQ at a place just south of I10 in Junction.

  154. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    mharper42

    Well, I would have no way of knowing what is fine seafood — the others all liked it… My current idea of good seafood comes in yellow boxes that say Gorton’s.

    LOL
    OMG you have got to let me and BSue take you to eat real seafood.

  155. squawkbox Avatar

    mharper42

    Well, I would have no way of knowing what is fine seafood — the others all liked it… My current idea of good seafood comes in yellow boxes that say Gorton’s.

    LOL
    OMG you have got to let me and BSue take you to eat real seafood.

  156. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Simple
    #68
    Oh man ain’t it the truth.

  157. squawkbox Avatar

    Simple
    #68
    Oh man ain’t it the truth.

  158. El Gordo Avatar

    I can tell you where you can get scrod in Boston.

    I was took in Texas I did not know her name
    Lord, all these southern girls seem the same

  159. Dude42 Avatar

    I can tell you where you can get scrod in Boston.

    I was took in Texas I did not know her name
    Lord, all these southern girls seem the same

  160. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #73 mharper42, We live a mile south of the Swinging Door; it’s on FM 359 north of Richmond and a couple of miles west of Pecan Grove Plantation. Best BBQ we’ve had–pretty much everybody else’s gets compared to it and doesn’t quite match up. Have been patronizing the place since 1978. We quickly learned then that only savages from northern states cook their meat in the sauce. 😉

    When we’re in Wisconsin I try to dine at least once on walleyed pike, a coldwater freshwater fish you can’t get here. Yum. And the freshwater perch are very good and usually the main course at the traditional Friday night figh fry.

  161. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #73 mharper42, We live a mile south of the Swinging Door; it’s on FM 359 north of Richmond and a couple of miles west of Pecan Grove Plantation. Best BBQ we’ve had–pretty much everybody else’s gets compared to it and doesn’t quite match up. Have been patronizing the place since 1978. We quickly learned then that only savages from northern states cook their meat in the sauce. 😉
    When we’re in Wisconsin I try to dine at least once on walleyed pike, a coldwater freshwater fish you can’t get here. Yum. And the freshwater perch are very good and usually the main course at the traditional Friday night figh fry.

  162. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Fish fry, that is

  163. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Fish fry, that is

  164. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Adee, I’ve been to the Swinging Door with Daughter and her Hubby, this was after She moved to Pecan Grove. Also I had to make a business trip to Milwakee in 2001 and my boss (born and raised in Channelview, Texas) had a brother-in law up there that was a fishing guide that took folks up to Canada to fish. While we were there he insisted that when we went out to eat, I should get the walleye. Dang Dammit, it was good almost like a Blue gill only much bigger. 😀

  165. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Adee, I’ve been to the Swinging Door with Daughter and her Hubby, this was after She moved to Pecan Grove. Also I had to make a business trip to Milwakee in 2001 and my boss (born and raised in Channelview, Texas) had a brother-in law up there that was a fishing guide that took folks up to Canada to fish. While we were there he insisted that when we went out to eat, I should get the walleye. Dang Dammit, it was good almost like a Blue gill only much bigger. 😀

  166. El Gordo Avatar

    walleyed pike

    Yum… carry me back to memories of my yoot. Walleye, yellow perch, northern pike, smelt, all good eating.

  167. Dude42 Avatar

    walleyed pike

    Yum… carry me back to memories of my yoot. Walleye, yellow perch, northern pike, smelt, all good eating.

  168. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Go Hogs! Let’s make it an SEC sweep of the Big10 (+2)!

  169. Hamous Avatar

    Go Hogs! Let’s make it an SEC sweep of the Big10 (+2)!

  170. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    I think I gained a couple of pounds just from reading these tasty comments.

  171. bob42 Avatar

    I think I gained a couple of pounds just from reading these tasty comments.

  172. El Gordo Avatar

    Commenters cannothaz subscript or superscript?

  173. Dude42 Avatar

    Commenters cannothaz subscript or superscript?

  174. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Ah guess I can throw ya a bone. Give it a try.

  175. Hamous Avatar

    Ah guess I can throw ya a bone. Give it a try.

  176. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    I’ll give it a shot: bob42

  177. bob42 Avatar

    I’ll give it a shot: bob42

  178. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    No joy. Or exponent. Not a biggie.

  179. bob42 Avatar

    No joy. Or exponent. Not a biggie.

  180. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Hmmm. Should be working. Can you see the quicktags above the comment box?

  181. Hamous Avatar

    Hmmm. Should be working. Can you see the quicktags above the comment box?

  182. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    OOOOOO Bright new buttons

  183. squawkbox Avatar

    OOOOOO Bright new buttons

  184. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    OOOOOOO bright new buttons that don’t work.

  185. squawkbox Avatar

    OOOOOOO bright new buttons that don’t work.

  186. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Let me guess, this is some psychiatric test to see how many of us will push the pretty bright new buttons?

  187. squawkbox Avatar

    Let me guess, this is some psychiatric test to see how many of us will push the pretty bright new buttons?

  188. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Actually Hammie PHP5 killed a buttload of plugins. That is why I was such a jerk on LST when it came to edit buttons.

    /Flame suit is on as is flak helmet.

  189. squawkbox Avatar

    Actually Hammie PHP5 killed a buttload of plugins. That is why I was such a jerk on LST when it came to edit buttons.
    /Flame suit is on as is flak helmet.

  190. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    I tested this with a local HTML file. “42” should appear in superscript.

    bob42

  191. bob42 Avatar

    I tested this with a local HTML file. “42” should appear in superscript.
    bob42

  192. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    What does “subscript” do?

  193. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    What does “subscript” do?

  194. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    subscript

  195. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    subscript

  196. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Oh well. Thanks for the effort Hamous.

  197. bob42 Avatar

    Oh well. Thanks for the effort Hamous.

  198. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Try it one more time.

  199. Hamous Avatar

    Try it one more time.

  200. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    OK

    bob42

  201. Tedtam Avatar

    Let’s see if I have better luck.

  202. Tedtam Avatar

    Let’s see if I have better luck.

  203. Tedtam Avatar

    Ah, drats, the HTML gods are not shining on any of us.

  204. Tedtam Avatar

    Ah, drats, the HTML gods are not shining on any of us.

  205. Dude42 Avatar

    I canhaz subscript.

  206. El Gordo Avatar

    C’est la vie. No big deal. Thanks for trying.

  207. Dude42 Avatar

    C’est la vie. No big deal. Thanks for trying.

  208. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    100 year old bottle of balsamic vinegar

    I can’t depend on my extra virgin olive oil being extra virgin and I’m sposed to believe the balsamic vinegar is 100 yrs old??

  209. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    100 year old bottle of balsamic vinegar

    I can’t depend on my extra virgin olive oil being extra virgin and I’m sposed to believe the balsamic vinegar is 100 yrs old??

  210. CbR Avatar
    CbR

    OoooooMeeeeOoooooMyyyyyyOoooo

    New Buttons (playtoys)

    2553.0

  211. CbR Avatar
    CbR

    OoooooMeeeeOoooooMyyyyyyOoooo
    New Buttons (playtoys)
    2553.0

  212. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    E-mail fodder:

    THE TAX SYSTEM EXPLAINED IN BEER

    Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this.

    The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
    The fifth would pay $1.
    The sixth would pay $3.
    The seventh would pay $7.
    The eighth would pay $12.
    The ninth would pay $18.
    The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

    So, that’s what they decided to do.

    The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve ball. “Since you are all such good customers,” he said, “I’m going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20”. Drinks for the ten men would now cost just $80.

    The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes. So the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his fair share?

    They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody’s share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer.

    So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man’s bill by a higher percentage the poorer he was, to follow the principle of the tax system they had been using, and he proceeded to work out the amounts he suggested that each should now pay.

    And so the fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% saving).
    The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% saving).
    The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28% saving).
    The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% saving).
    The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% saving).
    The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% saving).

    Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But, once outside the bar, the men began to compare their savings.

    “I only got a dollar out of the $20 saving,” declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man, “but he got $10!”

    “Yeah, that’s right,” exclaimed the fifth man. “I only saved a dollar too. It’s unfair that he got ten times more benefit than me!”

    “That’s true!” shouted the seventh man. “Why should he get $10 back, when I got only $2? The wealthy get all the breaks!”

    “Wait a minute,” yelled the first four men in unison, “we didn’t get anything at all. This new tax system exploits the poor!”

    The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.

    The next night the tenth man didn’t show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had their beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn’t have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

    And that, boys and girls, journalists and government ministers, is how our tax system works. The people who already pay the highest taxes will naturally get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas, where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

    David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
    Professor of Economics.

    For those who understand, no explanation is needed.
    For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible.

  213. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    E-mail fodder:
    THE TAX SYSTEM EXPLAINED IN BEER
    Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this.
    The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
    The fifth would pay $1.
    The sixth would pay $3.
    The seventh would pay $7.
    The eighth would pay $12.
    The ninth would pay $18.
    The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.
    So, that’s what they decided to do.
    The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve ball. “Since you are all such good customers,” he said, “I’m going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20”. Drinks for the ten men would now cost just $80.
    The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes. So the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his fair share?
    They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody’s share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer.
    So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man’s bill by a higher percentage the poorer he was, to follow the principle of the tax system they had been using, and he proceeded to work out the amounts he suggested that each should now pay.
    And so the fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% saving).
    The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% saving).
    The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28% saving).
    The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% saving).
    The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% saving).
    The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% saving).
    Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But, once outside the bar, the men began to compare their savings.
    “I only got a dollar out of the $20 saving,” declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man, “but he got $10!”
    “Yeah, that’s right,” exclaimed the fifth man. “I only saved a dollar too. It’s unfair that he got ten times more benefit than me!”
    “That’s true!” shouted the seventh man. “Why should he get $10 back, when I got only $2? The wealthy get all the breaks!”
    “Wait a minute,” yelled the first four men in unison, “we didn’t get anything at all. This new tax system exploits the poor!”
    The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.
    The next night the tenth man didn’t show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had their beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn’t have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!
    And that, boys and girls, journalists and government ministers, is how our tax system works. The people who already pay the highest taxes will naturally get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas, where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.
    David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
    Professor of Economics.
    For those who understand, no explanation is needed.
    For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible.

  214. CbR Avatar
    CbR

    Appears to be one of them Admin privies. If the other writers are Contribs then they may not have the full Admin privies and is like us commentors – POL (Plumb Outta Luck).

  215. CbR Avatar
    CbR

    Appears to be one of them Admin privies. If the other writers are Contribs then they may not have the full Admin privies and is like us commentors – POL (Plumb Outta Luck).

  216. Dooood Avatar

    San Jacinto Inn right next to the Battleship Texas about 1957 to 1965.

    Big, old wooden building, 16-18 foot ceilings with double hung windows to match. No air conditioning, but abundant old wooden ceiling fans and fresh air. Packed like hell on weekends with people at huge tables eating family style. Fishing boats backing up to the dock riverside as they bring in the catch, offloaded and cooked within minutes, a couple of hours at most. Men drinking cold beer and smoking big cigars, setups for the brown bagged bottles on the tables. Giant glasses of iced tea, homemade biscuits piled into big baskets along with the best fried chicken possibly ever cooked on G-d’s Green Earth. It was an absolutely enormous place and it was all prix fixe, a single charge by the head and all the shrimp, fish and oysters you could consume.

    My grandfather lived to take his family and friends there at least twice a year.

    It was a heady experience for a little boy.

    Nothing anywhere on earth to compare to it. Not now or since.

  217. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    San Jacinto Inn right next to the Battleship Texas about 1957 to 1965.
    Big, old wooden building, 16-18 foot ceilings with double hung windows to match. No air conditioning, but abundant old wooden ceiling fans and fresh air. Packed like hell on weekends with people at huge tables eating family style. Fishing boats backing up to the dock riverside as they bring in the catch, offloaded and cooked within minutes, a couple of hours at most. Men drinking cold beer and smoking big cigars, setups for the brown bagged bottles on the tables. Giant glasses of iced tea, homemade biscuits piled into big baskets along with the best fried chicken possibly ever cooked on G-d’s Green Earth. It was an absolutely enormous place and it was all prix fixe, a single charge by the head and all the shrimp, fish and oysters you could consume.
    My grandfather lived to take his family and friends there at least twice a year.
    It was a heady experience for a little boy.
    Nothing anywhere on earth to compare to it. Not now or since.

  218. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #88 Bob

    gained a couple of pounds just from reading

    Yep, an unusual day on The Couch.. Lots of nostalgia where food is involved.

  219. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #88 Bob

    gained a couple of pounds just from reading

    Yep, an unusual day on The Couch.. Lots of nostalgia where food is involved.

  220. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I bet they work now 😉

  221. Hamous Avatar

    I bet they work now 😉

  222. Mark Avatar

    Other tags that may work:

    • Item one
    • Item one
    • Item three
    1. Item A
    2. Item B
    3. Item C
  223. Hamous Avatar

    Other tags that may work:

    • Item one
    • Item one
    • Item three
    1. Item A
    2. Item B
    3. Item C
  224. Tedtam Avatar

    Ah, Hammy fixed it! Yay, Hammy!

    HAMOUS FOR PRESIDENT!

  225. Tedtam Avatar

    Ah, Hammy fixed it! Yay, Hammy!
    HAMOUS FOR PRESIDENT!

  226. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Trying both…

    bob42

    bob42

  227. bob42 Avatar

    Trying both…
    bob42
    bob42

  228. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Unordered lists:

    <ul>
    <li>Item 1</li>
    <li>Item 2</li>
    <li>Item 3</li>
    </ul>

    Ordered lists:

    <ol>
    <li>Item A</li>
    <li>Item B</li>
    <li>Item C</li>
    </ol>

  229. Hamous Avatar

    Unordered lists:
    <ul>
    <li>Item 1</li>
    <li>Item 2</li>
    <li>Item 3</li>
    </ul>
    Ordered lists:
    <ol>
    <li>Item A</li>
    <li>Item B</li>
    <li>Item C</li>
    </ol>

  230. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Coolness. Forget what I said earlier Hamous. You can partake of my stash.

    List tag testing:

    • item 1
    • item 2
    • item 3
    • item 4
  231. bob42 Avatar

    Coolness. Forget what I said earlier Hamous. You can partake of my stash.
    List tag testing:

    • item 1
    • item 2
    • item 3
    • item 4
  232. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Does subscript work now?

  233. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Does subscript work now?

  234. Tedtam Avatar

    This is fun! I think I’m getting dizzy!

  235. Tedtam Avatar

    This is fun! I think I’m getting dizzy!

  236. Tedtam Avatar

    Let’s see if I can make wavy comments.

    I’m so easily amused. I always told my husband I was a cheap date.

  237. Tedtam Avatar

    Let’s see if I can make wavy comments.
    I’m so easily amused. I always told my husband I was a cheap date.

  238. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    #65;
    From Kathy Griffin:

    Willow Palin may be a minor, but Griffin says she’s fair game for using slurs “gay” and “faggot” in a Facebook feud.
    “She’s called people a ‘faggot’ on Facebook a couple of times,” Griffin said. “You don’t throw around the f-word without hearing from me about it.”

    As smoker American soldier Kendrick watched British soldier smoking a cancer stick, the following transpired (I couldn’t find an audio clip):

    00:25:46 where’d you say you were from, exactly?
    00:25:50 What is it, Kendrick?
    00:25:51 You want one of my fags, is that what it is?
    00:25:54 Well, uh…
    00:25:57 That’s…

    From Saints and Soldiers. It’s gotta be the best Mormon-themed (not church-sponsored) film made to date. Not exactly a “slur” but…GO GET’EM KATHY.

  239. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I always told my husband I was a cheap date.

    And he married you, Yeah!

  240. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I always told my husband I was a cheap date.

    And he married you, Yeah!

  241. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    San Jacinto Inn right next to the Battleship Texas about 1957 to 1965.

    LOL, I just prepared a lesson on density lesson the USS Texas’ pics. I’ll point out the San Jacinto monument during the lesson as well.

  242. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    San Jacinto Inn right next to the Battleship Texas about 1957 to 1965.

    LOL, I just prepared a lesson on density lesson the USS Texas’ pics. I’ll point out the San Jacinto monument during the lesson as well.

  243. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #80 Squawk

    OMG you have got to let me and BSue take you to eat real seafood

    Thanks for the kind offer, Squawkster. I am definitely going to go to the next big get-together & meet everyone.

    And hey, let me try these sub and super buttons….

  244. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #80 Squawk

    OMG you have got to let me and BSue take you to eat real seafood

    Thanks for the kind offer, Squawkster. I am definitely going to go to the next big get-together & meet everyone.
    And hey, let me try these sub and super buttons….

  245. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Woo hoo! Stand back and let the old pro demo the new feature, boys & girls.

    Highlight the chars you want to put the feature on, then hit the button.

  246. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Woo hoo! Stand back and let the old pro demo the new feature, boys & girls.
    Highlight the chars you want to put the feature on, then hit the button.

  247. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Well, I see TT also got it figured out while I was off giving my cats their bedtime tartar control treats.

  248. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Well, I see TT also got it figured out while I was off giving my cats their bedtime tartar control treats.

  249. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    😆

  250. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    don’t work on smileys 😀

  251. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    don’t work on smileys 😀

  252. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    I guess it does 😛

  253. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    I guess it does 😛

  254. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Good night.

  255. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Hamous #6;

    They sure do think they can govern as such. Say, that’s a good segway for my upcoming link to utopianism.

  256. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Hamous #6;
    They sure do think they can govern as such. Say, that’s a good segway for my upcoming link to utopianism.

  257. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    El Gordo #12;

    The real question is will the Mexicans learn to speak Chinese or will the Chinese have to learn to speak Spanish?

    If the US suddenly disappeared from the world, it would definitely be the former.

  258. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    El Gordo #12;

    The real question is will the Mexicans learn to speak Chinese or will the Chinese have to learn to speak Spanish?

    If the US suddenly disappeared from the world, it would definitely be the former.

  259. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Here it is important to recognize that the American experiment in republican governance is by no means a Utopian project, as hostile revisionists may be disposed to argue or as some Utopian speculators, claiming precedent or superior knowledge, may allege in order to bolster their ongoing efforts to remake the country. Were they to have their way, as Mike McDaniel shows in a PJM article, law would then become a function of an elastic “values”-based mission, unfinished and open-ended, subject to constant re-interpretation in the quest to construct the perfect society, at the expense of a stable social and juridical order. This is, in essence, the “living Constitution” thesis so beloved of activist judges, intellectual meliorists and “progressive” politicians. It is part of the Utopian endeavor.

    But the motto Novus ordo seclorum (New Order of the Ages), which derives from Virgil’s Fourth Eclogue and appears on the exergue of the Great Seal of the United States, obviously does not signify a Utopian upheaval. Rather, as explained by the Seal’s designer Charles Thomson in 1782, the phrase purports “the beginning of the new American Era,” based on profoundly moral and common sense principles. The American “New Order” is not a top-down political structure, but one that establishes the authority of the people over its legislators and representatives. Thus, the American system may be justly described as resolutely anti-Utopian, as if the Founders intuitively understood, unlike our current “experts,” that chronic social bricolage is a kind of pathology and that the Elysian passion is anathema to human welfare.

    In the article cited above, I’d say author David Solway shows an excellent understanding opf the social impacts of utopian movements (something social liberals are enamoured with) and how the establishment of the united States is NOT and was NOT a utopian-driven result.

    The best aerticle I’ve read in weeks.

  260. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Here it is important to recognize that the American experiment in republican governance is by no means a Utopian project, as hostile revisionists may be disposed to argue or as some Utopian speculators, claiming precedent or superior knowledge, may allege in order to bolster their ongoing efforts to remake the country. Were they to have their way, as Mike McDaniel shows in a PJM article, law would then become a function of an elastic “values”-based mission, unfinished and open-ended, subject to constant re-interpretation in the quest to construct the perfect society, at the expense of a stable social and juridical order. This is, in essence, the “living Constitution” thesis so beloved of activist judges, intellectual meliorists and “progressive” politicians. It is part of the Utopian endeavor.
    But the motto Novus ordo seclorum (New Order of the Ages), which derives from Virgil’s Fourth Eclogue and appears on the exergue of the Great Seal of the United States, obviously does not signify a Utopian upheaval. Rather, as explained by the Seal’s designer Charles Thomson in 1782, the phrase purports “the beginning of the new American Era,” based on profoundly moral and common sense principles. The American “New Order” is not a top-down political structure, but one that establishes the authority of the people over its legislators and representatives. Thus, the American system may be justly described as resolutely anti-Utopian, as if the Founders intuitively understood, unlike our current “experts,” that chronic social bricolage is a kind of pathology and that the Elysian passion is anathema to human welfare.

    In the article cited above, I’d say author David Solway shows an excellent understanding opf the social impacts of utopian movements (something social liberals are enamoured with) and how the establishment of the united States is NOT and was NOT a utopian-driven result.
    The best aerticle I’ve read in weeks.

  261. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    tedtam;

    DANG! They know how to deal with crime!

  262. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    tedtam;
    DANG! They know how to deal with crime!

  263. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Can’t beat the free amusement courtesy of our host Hamous.
    Nighty nightall.

  264. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Can’t beat the free amusement courtesy of our host Hamous.
    Nighty nightall.

  265. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    well lemme see here

  266. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    It WORKS

  267. ripley99 Avatar
    ripley99

    I have a sad confession to make. Whenever I hear or sing the national anthem, I no longer fully believe its ending — “o’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.” We have many freedom-loving and brave Americans — just think of those in the armed forces. But overall, risk has been banned as Americans seek to be immunized against pain.

    Freedom once given away is rarely regained. They start with Obamacare. Regardless of your age and health status, he wants you to have insurance. Even if you’re young and in the best of health, he wants you to buy insurance. And before you know it we live in a nice safe Nazi socialist country.

    This is America, THE LAND OF THE FREE, not the watched.

  268. ripley99 Avatar
    ripley99

    I have a sad confession to make. Whenever I hear or sing the national anthem, I no longer fully believe its ending — “o’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.” We have many freedom-loving and brave Americans — just think of those in the armed forces. But overall, risk has been banned as Americans seek to be immunized against pain.

    Freedom once given away is rarely regained. They start with Obamacare. Regardless of your age and health status, he wants you to have insurance. Even if you’re young and in the best of health, he wants you to buy insurance. And before you know it we live in a nice safe Nazi socialist country.
    This is America, THE LAND OF THE FREE, not the watched.

  269. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Here I am all wide awake and ready to answer any and all questions or comment on virtually any subject, and no body’s up yet. Oh well, maybe next time.

  270. El Gordo Avatar

    Here I am all wide awake and ready to answer any and all questions or comment on virtually any subject, and no body’s up yet. Oh well, maybe next time.

  271. El Gordo Avatar

    El Gordo,

    I would like to know the answer please.

  272. Dude42 Avatar

    El Gordo,
    I would like to know the answer please.

  273. El Gordo Avatar

    That Hamous gives us subscript and superscript.

    He is a:

      Gentleman
      Scholar
      All-around great guy

      You remember where to send the check, right Hamous?

  274. Dude42 Avatar

    That Hamous gives us subscript and superscript.
    He is a:

      Gentleman
      Scholar
      All-around great guy
      You remember where to send the check, right Hamous?
  275. El Gordo Avatar

    That Hamous gives us subscript and superscript.

    He is a:

      Gentleman
      Scholar
      All-around great guy

    You remember where to send the check, right Hamous?

  276. Dude42 Avatar

    That Hamous gives us subscript and superscript.
    He is a:

      Gentleman
      Scholar
      All-around great guy

    You remember where to send the check, right Hamous?

  277. El Gordo Avatar

    Oops. Bad tag close. Scuse.

  278. Dude42 Avatar

    Oops. Bad tag close. Scuse.

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