I also thought it prudent to post something that connects God’s gender with potential consequences for society as it moves towards the importance of gender roles and family.
Darren
With all due respect to the various church councils in the world, I don’t think I need their opinion to interpret what I can read and understand with my own two eyes.
One more thing I forgot to include. As per the priciples declared in The Proclamation to the World, when society deviates form gender clarity, it naturally deviates from the nature of God which will always result in the downfall of society. The exact same can be said regarding marriage and the gender roles of marriage and parenting.
Darren
December 24, 2010 1:24 am
Squawk #97; I say this with the utmost respect to the Catholics and those of all faiths. But we in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints believe in God being the Father because He is, well, a He. When the church announces a belief unaminously among The first Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve Apostles it is official… Read more »
Darren
December 24, 2010 12:36 am
What is the medium? Colored pencils on textured paper, perhaps? And who is Zechiel?
As you know now, that’s me in the flesh. Well, one of them. 😉
Darren
December 24, 2010 12:35 am
Mharper;
I found you on FB…
Look for Nikisha. I’m about NEVER actually on Facebook.
And I am in no way implying god is created in our image. The reverse is true. So either various languages I have read of the Bible are wrong (including the Latin Vulgate) , someone is really wrong. I believe in Latin Catholic Mass the following words are spoken: Patris et Filii et Spiritus Sancti And last I checked Patris… Read more »
If God is of indeterminate sex then why does Jesus command the disciples to baptize in the name of the FATHER, Son and Holy Ghost. Why does Jesus say he is going to his FATHER’s house where there are many mansions? Mathew 28 18 Jesus came and told his disciples, “I have been given all authority in heaven and on… Read more »
#80 Squawkbox, mockery is not my intent, but I do understand how it might be perceived that way. I also understand that my timing may not seem optimal.
I sincerely wish you and everyone here a pleasant and peaceful Christmas eve and day, regardless of our differences in beliefs.
Adee
December 23, 2010 11:08 pm
God, being a pure spirit, has no need of gender. Guess that could be a Readers’ Digest explanation.
Adee
December 23, 2010 11:04 pm
Sarge #82, how unfortunate that an emergency had to cancel the dinner. An there you are with a pot of orphaned New England Style baked beans. Are they different from Boston baked beans? Regarding smoke signals possibly emanating from the house, the Pecan Grove Volunteer Fire Dept. is close by and quick to respond. 🙂
Following up on Texpat’s #79, here is what Catholics are taught: 370 In no way is God in man’s image. He is neither man nor woman. God is pure spirit in which there is no place for the difference between the sexes. But the respective “perfections” of man and woman reflect something of the infinite perfection of God: those of… Read more »
I only did the first one 😉 The rest, I’m assuming, are all on bobby.
mharper42
December 23, 2010 10:08 pm
Thanks, Texpat, that is clear enough for me.
Texpat
December 23, 2010 10:03 pm
This is a little better, but I’m tired or I would explain it myself more clearly: Since Jews are forbidden from destroying, erasing or dishonoring the name of G-d, they refrain from writing it out in full. Once the name of G-d is written out in full, one may nor erase it nor bring the paper it’s written on into… Read more »
mharper42 #86 Question: Why do some Jews spell God, “G-d”? Answer: God’s name is treated with unusual care in Jewish tradition. The divine name, YHWH (spelled with the Hebrew letters yud, hey, vav, hey) is never pronounced. Traditionally, Jews read the word “Adonai” (often translated as “the Lord”) whenever reading God’s holiest name in Torah or in prayer. However, “Adonai”… Read more »
mharper42
December 23, 2010 9:32 pm
#82 Sarge
Baked beans for Christmas? What kind of tradition is that?
mharper42
December 23, 2010 9:31 pm
#79 Texpat
May I ask why you say “G-d”? I am not familiar with that practise.
mharper42
December 23, 2010 9:28 pm
#83 Darren Wow, thanks for the explanation of the forest creatures, I was way off the mark. I wondered if the “pony” might be a unicorn because of the bright colors, but I didn’t see a horn. Also I didn’t realize there was a hole burned in the song book — I thought it was a design on the cover.… Read more »
Darren
December 23, 2010 9:03 pm
RE: Bob’s voice links;
Hamous, you crack me up.
Darren
December 23, 2010 9:00 pm
mharper #77; Another post of mine that seems to be missing was a question to Darren about the kids that created the amazing forest Christmas carolling scene. I’d guess a 10-12 year old boy drew and colored the dragon, am I close? The turtles are soooo cute! 🙂 The intent of this year’s card was to draw ourselves as an… Read more »
I cook two quarts of New England Style Baked Beans so that I can impress Significant Other’s Brother In Law (who does ALL the cooking at his house), and the gig gets cancelled due to a fambly emergency.
Anybody need any beans?
They only need to cook another two hours, then they’re done.
Darren
December 23, 2010 8:44 pm
But they’re adults, not 10 year olds.
And that makes their message worse, no? Hacking up a goober to lunge on a camera, protesting with vioplence, dancing around in a button shirt and underwear, etc. This is nothing to become “speachless” over and yet the kid’s video of “respect authority” like Jesus and their parents renders you without a tonuge?
Question everything and believe a lie. Bob I would love to take you for a little trip to places I have been. Meet people I have seen. Maybe you would see that there are none so foolish as those who in their heart says there is no God. But alas we all make choices that are later found unwise. Sadly… Read more »
Texpat
December 23, 2010 7:51 pm
To my knowledge, the only religions attributing sexual gender characteristics to deities were the polytheistic Pagans prior to the ascendancy of Judaism. They, like present day Wiccans, fantasized they could interact with powerful members of the Nether Worlds and curry favor for themselves. It was, and is, the result of naturally selfish and egocentric human imagination and vice. Roman Catholic… Read more »
Another post of mine that seems to be missing was a question to Darren about the kids that created the amazing forest Christmas carolling scene. I’d guess a 10-12 year old boy drew and colored the dragon, am I close? The turtles are soooo cute!
Hal seems to be acting a little scroogy today so if your comments don’t make it out immediately don’t take it personally.
Darren
December 23, 2010 5:43 pm
Question everything. Why does bob disdain Christian principles? Where did bob formulate his own sense of morality? Is bob’s mother more rational now that she’s more conservative than when she was a more liberal wiccan? If kids believed in questioning authority, even their parents, would society be better off? What society today is better off by kids questioning their parent’s… Read more »
Darren
December 23, 2010 5:36 pm
bob #50; You’re such a fool. you really think the kids singing about obeying your parents means anything near, “now, kids, stand still while I beat you until you bleed”. “Yes, father I will respect you and do as I’m told.” Did the people who founded our exceptional nation blindly “obey” and “respect” the authority of the king (and head… Read more »
#62 M42, I’m glad we can agree on that, and you are correct that the Montana case was not an example of nullification, as they were never given an opportunity to render a verdict. But there’s a relationship there all the same, and I think it’s a step in the positive direction for limited government and freedom. I’ve been summoned… Read more »
mharper42
December 23, 2010 5:08 pm
#60 Adee
Glad to hear you are doing well, enjoy your Christmas holiday!
Mharper42, nope. Not at all. Were our Founders school-age children who need instruction from their elders in how to be productive members of our socierty? The founders were largely products of the concepts of enlightenment that valued freedom over the top down authoritarian power structures that had ruled humankind for centuries, and in some places, to the misfortune of many,… Read more »
mharper42
December 23, 2010 4:54 pm
Interesting… I have tried twice to post a link to Drudge’s story about a riot at a shoe store selling $175 Air Jordans. Both times, when I hit Post Comment, the submission vanished in a puff of vapor. What up, Hal? My only point was I got a kick out of the comment I didn’t know that you could buy… Read more »
mharper42
December 23, 2010 4:49 pm
I thought I posted another link from Drudge today but don’t see it here now. This is the first time Hal ever got me…
Besides, the counsel found within the LDS Proclamation is well worth anyone to read.
I wuz just clarifying. In fact I’m glad you made your #106 post. For a while I was wondering if you were a cyclopse.
Phew, you’re not cycloptic. 🙂
I agree. 😉
Or being “disagreeable”.
Not disagreeing Darren 😉
I also thought it prudent to post something that connects God’s gender with potential consequences for society as it moves towards the importance of gender roles and family.
Squawk;
Just my input.
Darren
With all due respect to the various church councils in the world, I don’t think I need their opinion to interpret what I can read and understand with my own two eyes.
Hamous
#100
That sota ends the discussion doesn’t it?
One more thing I forgot to include. As per the priciples declared in The Proclamation to the World, when society deviates form gender clarity, it naturally deviates from the nature of God which will always result in the downfall of society. The exact same can be said regarding marriage and the gender roles of marriage and parenting.
Squawk #97; I say this with the utmost respect to the Catholics and those of all faiths. But we in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints believe in God being the Father because He is, well, a He. When the church announces a belief unaminously among The first Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve Apostles it is official… Read more »
As you know now, that’s me in the flesh. Well, one of them. 😉
Mharper;
Look for Nikisha. I’m about NEVER actually on Facebook.
And the Constitution says “All men are created equal”. Does that exclude women?
And finally I am not saying God is man or a man, God is spirit, masculine Spirit.
And I am in no way implying god is created in our image. The reverse is true. So either various languages I have read of the Bible are wrong (including the Latin Vulgate) , someone is really wrong. I believe in Latin Catholic Mass the following words are spoken: Patris et Filii et Spiritus Sancti And last I checked Patris… Read more »
If God is of indeterminate sex then why does Jesus command the disciples to baptize in the name of the FATHER, Son and Holy Ghost. Why does Jesus say he is going to his FATHER’s house where there are many mansions? Mathew 28 18 Jesus came and told his disciples, “I have been given all authority in heaven and on… Read more »
#80 Squawkbox, mockery is not my intent, but I do understand how it might be perceived that way. I also understand that my timing may not seem optimal.
I sincerely wish you and everyone here a pleasant and peaceful Christmas eve and day, regardless of our differences in beliefs.
God, being a pure spirit, has no need of gender. Guess that could be a Readers’ Digest explanation.
Sarge #82, how unfortunate that an emergency had to cancel the dinner. An there you are with a pot of orphaned New England Style baked beans. Are they different from Boston baked beans? Regarding smoke signals possibly emanating from the house, the Pecan Grove Volunteer Fire Dept. is close by and quick to respond. 🙂
Following up on Texpat’s #79, here is what Catholics are taught: 370 In no way is God in man’s image. He is neither man nor woman. God is pure spirit in which there is no place for the difference between the sexes. But the respective “perfections” of man and woman reflect something of the infinite perfection of God: those of… Read more »
I only did the first one 😉 The rest, I’m assuming, are all on bobby.
Thanks, Texpat, that is clear enough for me.
This is a little better, but I’m tired or I would explain it myself more clearly: Since Jews are forbidden from destroying, erasing or dishonoring the name of G-d, they refrain from writing it out in full. Once the name of G-d is written out in full, one may nor erase it nor bring the paper it’s written on into… Read more »
Darren, never mind, I found you on FB…
mharper42 #86 Question: Why do some Jews spell God, “G-d”? Answer: God’s name is treated with unusual care in Jewish tradition. The divine name, YHWH (spelled with the Hebrew letters yud, hey, vav, hey) is never pronounced. Traditionally, Jews read the word “Adonai” (often translated as “the Lord”) whenever reading God’s holiest name in Torah or in prayer. However, “Adonai”… Read more »
#82 Sarge
Baked beans for Christmas? What kind of tradition is that?
#79 Texpat
May I ask why you say “G-d”? I am not familiar with that practise.
#83 Darren Wow, thanks for the explanation of the forest creatures, I was way off the mark. I wondered if the “pony” might be a unicorn because of the bright colors, but I didn’t see a horn. Also I didn’t realize there was a hole burned in the song book — I thought it was a design on the cover.… Read more »
RE: Bob’s voice links;
Hamous, you crack me up.
mharper #77; Another post of mine that seems to be missing was a question to Darren about the kids that created the amazing forest Christmas carolling scene. I’d guess a 10-12 year old boy drew and colored the dragon, am I close? The turtles are soooo cute! 🙂 The intent of this year’s card was to draw ourselves as an… Read more »
Well–
I cook two quarts of New England Style Baked Beans so that I can impress Significant Other’s Brother In Law (who does ALL the cooking at his house), and the gig gets cancelled due to a fambly emergency.
Anybody need any beans?
They only need to cook another two hours, then they’re done.
And that makes their message worse, no? Hacking up a goober to lunge on a camera, protesting with vioplence, dancing around in a button shirt and underwear, etc. This is nothing to become “speachless” over and yet the kid’s video of “respect authority” like Jesus and their parents renders you without a tonuge?
Question everything and believe a lie. Bob I would love to take you for a little trip to places I have been. Meet people I have seen. Maybe you would see that there are none so foolish as those who in their heart says there is no God. But alas we all make choices that are later found unwise. Sadly… Read more »
To my knowledge, the only religions attributing sexual gender characteristics to deities were the polytheistic Pagans prior to the ascendancy of Judaism. They, like present day Wiccans, fantasized they could interact with powerful members of the Nether Worlds and curry favor for themselves. It was, and is, the result of naturally selfish and egocentric human imagination and vice. Roman Catholic… Read more »
mharper – nothing in the can
Another post of mine that seems to be missing was a question to Darren about the kids that created the amazing forest Christmas carolling scene. I’d guess a 10-12 year old boy drew and colored the dragon, am I close? The turtles are soooo cute!
#67 Darren42, I’m no fan of the sex pistols, and have little respect for them as musicians. But they’re adults, not 10 year olds.
Ok, we’re going Christmas light looking. I’ll be sure to question the existence of every bulb we see.
Tis’ the season.
mharper;
A better question is did the Founding Fathers show respect to their parents and religious principles?
Hal seems to be acting a little scroogy today so if your comments don’t make it out immediately don’t take it personally.
Question everything. Why does bob disdain Christian principles? Where did bob formulate his own sense of morality? Is bob’s mother more rational now that she’s more conservative than when she was a more liberal wiccan? If kids believed in questioning authority, even their parents, would society be better off? What society today is better off by kids questioning their parent’s… Read more »
bob #50; You’re such a fool. you really think the kids singing about obeying your parents means anything near, “now, kids, stand still while I beat you until you bleed”. “Yes, father I will respect you and do as I’m told.” Did the people who founded our exceptional nation blindly “obey” and “respect” the authority of the king (and head… Read more »
#62 M42, I’m glad we can agree on that, and you are correct that the Montana case was not an example of nullification, as they were never given an opportunity to render a verdict. But there’s a relationship there all the same, and I think it’s a step in the positive direction for limited government and freedom. I’ve been summoned… Read more »
#60 Adee
Glad to hear you are doing well, enjoy your Christmas holiday!
Adee;
If you see any mushroom clouds or smoke over Pecan Lakes, its just me making New England Baked Beans
Mharper42, nope. Not at all. Were our Founders school-age children who need instruction from their elders in how to be productive members of our socierty? The founders were largely products of the concepts of enlightenment that valued freedom over the top down authoritarian power structures that had ruled humankind for centuries, and in some places, to the misfortune of many,… Read more »
Interesting… I have tried twice to post a link to Drudge’s story about a riot at a shoe store selling $175 Air Jordans. Both times, when I hit Post Comment, the submission vanished in a puff of vapor. What up, Hal? My only point was I got a kick out of the comment I didn’t know that you could buy… Read more »
I thought I posted another link from Drudge today but don’t see it here now. This is the first time Hal ever got me…
http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpp/news/weird/122310-Towne-East-Mall-Shoppers-Maced-at-Chaotic-Air-Jordan-Sneaker-Sale#
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