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You only have to wear bubble wrap to confirmation class.
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Good morning Hamsters. Misty moisty 73 to start off with a shower likely some time today so sayeth the weather wizards. We need a cold front to drop by soon and push this mugly Gulf moisture out.
Regarding the OC pic, it appears that the splits in the Lutheran faith in the US into four synods that I’m aware of, some of which do not speak to other synods other than in dire emergencies, have not infected the Lutheran Church in Norway. Given that Norway’s population is around 4 million and dispersed that is perhaps not surprising.
The churches and cathedrals we visited on excursions seemed to be pretty much high church, with altar cloths present on weekdays, lighted candles on or near them, flowers present, baptismal fonts, pulpits, organs, and stands of votive candles generally present. The pastors are referred to as priests, not ministers, and there are bishops or arch bishops at cathedrals. Quite a pleasant surprise, though we found the same in the early 90s when we visited Stavanger for a professional society meeting.
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The churches and cathedrals we visited on excursions seemed to be pretty much high church, with altar cloths present on weekdays, lighted candles on or near them, flowers present, baptismal fonts, pulpits, organs, and stands of votive candles generally present. The pastors are referred to as priests, not ministers, and there are bishops or arch bishops at cathedrals.
It’s like the Reformation never happened 😉
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#4: That was a nice shot they made, all the bombs dropped on the non grassy spot.
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#4: That was a nice shot they made, all the bombs dropped on the non grassy spot.
That’s what we in the military refer to as “The Target”.
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Yes, the middle of the meat sack, the boiler room, etc.
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Dude.
What movies are you watching?
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Depends on the day and what mood I’m in.
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And the Ds are still claiming that this travesty will bring peace instead of the truth that it will guarantee war. As far as I am concerned Jugears, Lurch and every D who votes in favor of this deal is guilty of treason.
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Alabama is about the same size as Norway. Regarding percentage of population and regular church attendance:
Alabama – 58%
Norway – 5%
Texas – 49%The country has an area of 150,000 square miles and a population of 4.75 million. Citizens are considered to be members of the state church, the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Norway, unless they explicitly state otherwise. For example, citizens may elect to associate themselves with another denomination, nonreligious organization (e.g., the Norwegian Humanist Association), or to have no religious affiliation at all. An estimated 82 percent of the population (3.9 million persons) nominally belongs to the state church. However, actual church attendance is quite low.
Norwegian stats are misleading because all births are listed as belonging to the State Church unless they formally sign out. Roman Catholics constitute somewhere between 1.6 and 2.4 percent, but that number is disputed. Actual professed belief in God is quite low – somewhere under 40% and atheism and agnosticism are fairly high.
Interestingly, Norway pre-1960s had the highest per capita number of foreign missionaries of any Christian nation.
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#3 Hamous
Makes a whole lot more sense than what happened to the Lutherans in the US. The country Lutheran churchyard where my mother and father in law are buried near the small southern Wisconsin town of Edgerton has the distinction of being the senior of a pair of Lutheran churches. Some parishoners of the original one had a falling out years ago and built the second church about a block away. They are referred to as the east and west churches, and to my knowledge both are staffed. Am thinking the reason for the split is lost in the mists of time, and hardly anyone recalls what the dispute was about. Don’t know if both belong to the same synod these days. The original church seems to be quite traditional.
The area was settled by a large number of Norwegian immigrants in the mid to late 1800s. The family farmhouse was built in 1875. We have an oak humpback trunk that came to the area with an ancestor in 1858, simply inscribed on the front with her name and Edgerton, Wisconsin, North America. The trunk is a family heirloom made in 1763. We rescued it from the farmhouse attic after grandma passed away.
It is the same kind of trunk that traditionally passes down through the female line as a sort of hope chest from grandmother to daughter to granddaughter. It properly belongs in the State Historical Society of Wisconsin museum and will be sent there eventually.
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#11 Texpat
Did see statues of Odin, Thor, Freya, and the gang for sale at various tourist sites.
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There are articles out there about Norway formally separating church and state in 2012. However several commenters said the church is still subsidized by the government.
Like everything else . 🙂
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I have letters from my Germanic ancestors from the New Braunfels area from the 1800’s. There’s interesting discussions of how much items cost, the upcoming harvest, etc. I think I’ve already shared the heartbreaking story of one young man who lost his life because he accidentally cut his arm while slicing bread and cheese on a two day trip to Fredericksburg.
Among the items of mention are requests for prayers for the Catholics in the homeland who were undergoing persecution. I have a hard time imagining Catholics being persecuted, as I’m usually accused of personally being responsible for the Inquisition by rabid anti-Catholics. The letters indicate that the Protestant persecution of Catholics was pretty bad.
Bigotry comes in all shapes, sizes, and colors.
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Morning, gang. Site weather.com shows my zip code with about the same chance for rain as every other afternoon this week, about 40%. I got 0.05″ on Monday and that was it. Looks like I will spend the holiday watering my grass and trees. 🙁
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Going to see my mother today. It will be an interesting visit, given last week’s blowout.
Pray that I can keep my temper under control and replace it with compassion, patience, and understanding. And a great amount of detachment.
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Tell her politely, yet firmly, to stop checking you out. Things should calm down after that.
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Doing jobs Americans won’t do.
HT/ Instapundit
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This country has a rich history of anti-Catholic bigotry.
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#19 – WOW
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21 Kat
No kidding.
The larger point being that technology has replaced many of those jobs that the 94 million non-working Americans used to do. -
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The second video of how the mortar is applied perfectly is pretty amazing. -
#23 – dats ‘mortar’ Brother 🙂
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aha you caught that typo! ^5
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Dang spellcheck
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What’s wrong with these two headlines”
[Hilldebeyotch] Clinton: Officials should ‘uphold the law’
Gov’t Accuses Company Of Discrimination Over Employees Having To Prove Citizenship Status
It is way past time to flush the terlit known as DC and start over. That gene pool is in desperate need of chlorine.
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Here is a vidiot of the whole brick laying process and the designers of the machine.
It seems to me more people are required to lay the bricks than just the usual 3 man team.
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Regarding the more than efficient security at Heathrow last Monday and at customs two weeks or so before that, we learned on Saturday via Sky News that the Irish Republican Army has raised its ugly head again in Ireland and murdered a young man for no apparent reason. So between those thugs and ISIS/Muslim Brotherhood types there is plenty to be concerned about regarding security for all of Europe. The Brits seem to be on the ball. Ya hear that, Homeland Security?
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Rain! At Chez Harp! We’ll take it.
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Ya hear that, Homeland Security?
They’re busy groping five-year old girls and 85-year old nuns looking for “explosives”.
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#22 Shannon
The larger point being that technology has replaced many of those jobs that the 94 million non-working Americans used to do.
Guess they’ll have to ride barges to Greece and Italy, see if they can crowd into northern European countries?
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Actually had a good visit with Mom today. I apologized for losing my temper, and she said “We all have our problems, including me!” We went from there and had a nice conversation.
She still bristled at my suggestion she get an MRI, so I dropped it. It’s her decision to be in pain and willfully choose to avoid a diagnosis. She is still mentally competent, so I have to let her make these decisions.
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Progress! That must feel very good, Tedtam.
How come wordpress doesn’t support the <3 emoticon?
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Alright, military veterans on the Couch. What do you think about this brief story of how American brass are all torqued off about the Frenchies awarding medals to the American men who stopped the train jihadi?
http://www.duffelblog.com/2015/08/pentagon-french-train-awards/
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MHarpFirst comment:
Matthew Younger
For a satire page, that is truer than anything the military could ever offer. -
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mharper42
#35I think Tim nails it.
I think that story is full of crap. Yes there is a discussion of should the men be awarded equivalent medals from their respective services. Some say yes and some say no.
BUT and it is a big HOWEVER I think the brass reactions quoted in the story are bald faced lies. I cannot find any citations or other stories from and other news source but that BLOG.
The French showing this type appreciation is not without precedent. I saw first hand in Germany the French awarded the same medal to a friend of mine that assisted the French in saving some French soldiers lives in a horrible accident.
Next I noted the suggestion of an article 32 hearing. FOR WHAT? And their is not a First Shirt of the Air Force ever going to make those types of comments about their service members. On the contrary in word the First Sergeant of the Air Force will sing these guys praises to the roof tops as examples to be followed.
I am calling BOVINE PROCESSED HAY on this story unless someone can show me a supporting story with links and citations.
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Is that Trump’s combover? lol
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Duffel Blog is sometimes referred to as “The military version of The Onion,” but this is a popular misconception. The misnomer was cleared up in May 2012 when DB staff successfully conducted an airborne assault on the offices of The Onion News Network so that others would know “The Onion was actually the civilian version of Duffel Blog.”
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I gotta get back to work now, yall need any more help let me know. 😛
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I watched a good deal of the powerful service for Deputy Goforth and found it quite moving. I’m mystified that SJL didn’t make an appearance, or if she did, that she was denied public exposure. Occasionally when something like this happens and the good people take to the streets my faith in humanity is restored. Of course, the White House was apparently not represented either since the deceased was not a law breaking thug.
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#42 – Yep – as for the Not-so-White-House………………..S.N.A.F.U.
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Any sentient being looking at Duffel Blog would simply have to know it is satire.
Headlines:
Lockheed Upbeat Despite F-35 Losing Dogfight To Red Baron
Army Too Busy To Play Navy This College Football Season
God Strikes Down Ranger School For Allowing Women
Troop Cuts Spark New ‘Army Of None’ Marketing Campaign
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2.3″ at the back fence so far this week. Thank you ABBA.
Erev Shabbat Shalom, Y’all
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#44 Texpat
But given that just about all the real military officers have been kicked out of the Pentagon brass by now and only the rump kissers are left in power positions, it isn’t that hard to imagine the refuse that’s left would be so stupid and venal.
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Vicious thugs attack cop in Madison. There is a map that shows the location of all the crime stories in the past year in Madison; perhaps Ms. Adee can shed some light on the subject. . . .
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Another feral yute what aint gotta clue.
HEADLINE: Best Excuse Ever For Fleeing A Police Officer
Alleged Florida gang member is allergic to “weird” white people
/snip
Officer Joseph May was at a Clearwater gas station early Tuesday morning when he was approached by Taurus Jabriel Brown, whom the cop recognized as “a gang member from the community I work in,” according to a police report.Brown, 19, told May that he “would like to be a police officer one day.” The teen then shook hands with the cop, who noticed a marijuana blunt tucked behind Brown’s ear.
“Is this weed?” May asked. “How stupid are you?”
A real rocket scientist, that one be’s
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Taurus?? Was he named after the back seat in which he was conceived?
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#49: That which his daddy done stolt and went to prison.
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Price reduced! For just under $150 MILLION this stunning 53,000 square foot palace can be yours!
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Got off early today, I guess this is the time of day all the old folks are napping?
Wake up Shannon you’re veering off the road!!
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Had a meeting at a customer’s office today to go over some disputed invoices, the sales manager with me said later he feared I was going to go across the table a couple times. I didn’t know I came across that way, it would’ve been pretty stupid cause the guy is built like an NFL linebacker and appears his workout regiment is the same. I mean I’m a pretty big guy, but not necessarily in the good sense. 😀
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Just heard a good point made on the radio whilst running errands.
The Kentucky clerk in jail? The bigger issue is that states’ rights were trampled here. The Kentucky legislature hasn’t addressed this issue yet.
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#47 Bonecrusher
Madison lies between Lake Mendota on the north and Lake Monona on the south, kinda squeezed in the middle on the isthmus. The darkish blob on the center spit is likely Capitol Square and the state capitol surrounded by the downtown area. A mile or so to the left State Street runs from the square and dead ends into the University of Wisconsin campus and off campus housing areas/ Fraternity & Sorority row and private and UW dorms. The clear space with few measles is the campus that juts out into the lake near the village of Shorewood Hills marked on the map. It and the relatively clear areas to the south and west are nice middle-upper income residential areas of various ages. Farther to the west and southwest where the dots get thicker are new residential areas that used to be farmland when we lived there. The town of Middleton to the north is a separate city that of course would not be included in the Madison crime locations.
To the east of the Capitol Square is an older part of Madison with many homes as rentals for UW students and the industrial section of town such as it is. Somewhat newer and older residential areas fan out north and south farther on. The East side until recently had been regarded as the middle to lower middle class area with pockets of upper middle class neighborhoods along the shore of Lake Mendota. There are some new and very nice subdivisions farther to the east.
The West side has always been considered the nicer side, being closer to the UW campus and downtown, and it is likely the area with the fewest measle dots.
Am guessing that the locale of the story is probably somewhere in the comma-shaped curved area of measle dots heading southwest from the isthmus. This looks to be curving around the University of Wisconsin Arboretum that is quite extensive and until the past few decades was pretty much at the edge of town.
Now that everybody is completely confused trying to squint at that tiny map, even after it’s been enlarged some, hope this helps. The identification of roads and areas is pretty sparse.
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Priceless. Absolutely priceless.
I thought not.
Oh, my, I can’t stop grinning. God bless these guys for pointing out the hypocrisy here.
/hee hee hee
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Sarah Palin takes some shots at Obama. Love this line:
Maybe if he had looked across the way he’d finally notice the looming, growing, serious threat that is Vladimir Putin. What, do I have to keep an eye on him from my house?
Tina Fey would be proud.
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53 GJT
Fierce passion and righteous indignation can be a powerful equalizer in a battle against smug arrogance. I’ve backed down more than one bully who was bigger than me when I just decided I wasn’t going to take their sh*t anymore.
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#36 Tim
Ah sheesh, and that duffleblog is even on my list of bogus sites. 🙁Well, was there at least some humor in my posting it here? Huh? Huh?
/cringeing in shame
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I heard that the streets were lined with people from Second Baptist all the way to the cemetery on Antoine.
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#59
Just funnin ya. 😛
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It never once occurred to me that French medal story was a gag! What is wrong with me?
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#57 – Lettin out my inner snark – I wish someone would TATTOO that entire article on one of Mr.Moochelle’s freakin EYEBALLS (vewwy vewwy SLOWLY)
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KF done kilt da blog dead.
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Ok, here’s an article I won’t have to apologize for. Makes political sausage of GOPe plans for 2016.
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/09/03/donald-trump-crushes-gop-field-in-latest-national-poll-full-poll-data-pdf-included-gope-splitters-expanded/ -
Tedtam
The Kentucky clerk in jail? The bigger issue is that states’ rights were trampled here.
Uhhhhh no. The clerk standing for her beliefs and getting tossed in jail is the much larger issue. Every Christian in the United States is now subject to going to jail or denying their faith. Every preacher in every pulpit is now in jeopardy of jail time for speaking out against homosexuality.
Individual rights have been trampled that is always bigger than states rights. We have lost our freedom of religion to practice our faith.
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Good morning Hamsters. Looks like the long weekend started yesterday.
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Good morning Adee and all!
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This is the droid you’re looking for.
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#69: What would really be cool is if that little droid thing would transmit back what it saw to the phone. If the operator could do things like zoom in/out, pan right/left/up/down and take pictures/video/sound recording.
How about if it could project a picture on the wall and transmit the voice of the operator. A true droid drone thingie. . -
Labor Day o/c is up.
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And I got firsties
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