Wednesday American Citizenship Open Comments

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The Case Against Birthright Citizenship: A Constitutional and National Imperative

Donald Trump’s executive order banning so-called “birthright citizenship” was immediately (though temporarily) blocked by a Federal judge, who called it “blatantly unconstitutional”.

He’s wrong. Birthright citizenship is not, in fact, required by the 14th Amendment. Don’t believe me? Ask yourself why the children of foreign ambassadors or servicemen born here are not U.S. citizens.

Because they aren’t. So why are the children of people who’ve entered the country illegally?

The principle of birthright citizenship, as it is currently interpreted in the courts, poses a significant and growing threat to the nation’s sovereignty, social cohesion, and long-term stability. The idea that mere birth on U.S. soil, regardless of parental allegiance, automatically confers American citizenship is not only a misreading of the 14th Amendment but a dangerous policy that has been exploited for decades.

and,

The current misinterpretation of birthright citizenship stems from a deliberate distortion of the 14th Amendment’s Citizenship Clause. The amendment states that “all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.” The key phrase, “subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” has been twisted over time to mean anyone physically present in the country at birth. But this was never the intent of the amendment.

As constitutional scholar John C. Eastman has argued, “subject to the jurisdiction” was meant to exclude those who owed allegiance to foreign nations. This understanding is reinforced by the historical context in which the amendment was drafted. Its primary purpose was to grant citizenship to freed slaves, who had been wickedly denied it by the slave states, and later nationally under the infamous Dred Scott decision.

plus this,

Don’t believe me? Here’s what the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services website has to say:

A person born in the United States to a foreign diplomatic officer accredited to the United States is not subject to the jurisdiction of United States law. Therefore, that person cannot be considered a U.S. citizen at birth under the 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution.

Wait, what?! Did they just say that if you’re not “subject to the jurisdiction of United States law” then the citizenship provision of the 14th Amendment doesn’t apply to you?

Why yes. Yes they did. And this isn’t a new thing: it’s always been the law.

So what does that tell us about people who are not only foreign citizens, they’re actually here illegally? If someone trespasses in your house, do their children automatically gain partial ownership of it? The very idea is absurd.

RTWDT.

 

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51 responses to “Wednesday American Citizenship Open Comments”

  1. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Good morning.

    A couple of thoughts on the release of the JFK files:

    The release makes me recall these two guys who were amateur assassination investigators who would occasionally appear on local radio talk shows. Their appearances were always fascinating. This was back in the early days of talk radio in Houston – before Dan Patrick ever got into the business, and in his earliest days at KSEV.
    I believe one of them was an early producer of Channel 2’s The Eyes of Texas television series. Sadly, I imagine those two guys are long gone by now.

    I figure some industrious assassination geeks are trying to figure out a way to feed all 80,000 pages into a magic AI machine to search out new clues and conclusions.

    1. Bonecrusher Avatar
      Bonecrusher

      IF they were able to feed all that crap into an AI digester, it would sh spit out that the whole explanation is garbage.

    2. Texpat Avatar
      Texpat

      The cyber genius woman named Data Republican (small r) did exactly what you are talking with all the grants and funding given away by the federal government. She said the information provided Spending.gov was an un-indexed stream of data that was impossible to search for key items. She created a fairly simple system and fed the zillion pages into it. Ms Data is now a celebrity.

  2. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    WHY HAVEN’T THE EPSTEIN FILES BEEN RELEASED IN TOTAL, INCLUDING THE FLIGHT LOGS?!? I suspect that Chief John Roberts is on the list. That guy has always given me the creeps, the same way a pedo would.

    1. Dr phil Good-E=1984 Avatar
      Dr phil Good-E=1984

      Yup. He’s definitely compromised imo.
      not sure what it is but I’m now inclined to believe the stories that came out about him are true.

      not mention that he’s a Dizzy Dunce Bush boy and the bushes hate Trump.
      stay outta da Bushes.

  3. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    This story is so absurd that it has to be true. Cheese cannon balls.

  4. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Howitzer style potato cannon.
    Has anybody checked the calendar? I think it is wacko Wednesday.

  5. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    In case you missed the splash down, skip to 1:09:00 for the whole salami.

  6. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    Sean Davis, CEO and co-founder of The Federalist, has been bearing down on Chief Justice John Roberts on X. Davis has been the most articulate in his criticism of Roberts.

    For more than two centuries, the question of whether to impeach judges has been left solely to the elected representatives of the American people. John Roberts has no say in the matter, regardless of how much he wishes otherwise. Our Constitution gives John Roberts no power whatsoever when it comes to judicial impeachment, and it certainly doesn’t give him the power to “reject” congressional impeachment when and if it comes.

    In fact, this unbridled arrogance from Roberts is the precise reason judicial impeachment is now being demanded for rogue judges. Had Roberts done his job and restrained inferior judges from overstepping their bounds and claiming for themselves authority and power which does not belong to them, we would not find himself in this predicament. These calls are happening precisely because of John Roberts, not in spite of him.

    What John Roberts needs to understand right now is that his continued cowardice in the face of lawless judicial insurrection against the elected government of the people—not rightful criticism of judges—is the fatal threat to the legitimacy of the judiciary he idolizes.

    The more he acts like a craven politician, the more we are going to treat him like one. A smarter man than him would understand that the moment the Chief Justice is viewed more as a slimy politician than a fair judge, it’s over for him and his precious judiciary.

    1. Super Dave Avatar
      Super Dave

      I saw your post from last night and you’re right. Sadly the Democrats started the politicization of the courts for their benefit and now it is taking hold. A VERY bad precedence.

  7. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    CFP pointed to a podcast by Benny Johnson, whom I’ve never heard of.
    It’s a 2 hour episode in anticipation of the Kennedy files release. He has some interesting guests. One of them was Roger Stone who says that Trump only released the files from the National Archives. But that the CIA, FBI, and others have files not included in the Executive Order.

    1. Texpat Avatar
      Texpat

      Benny Johnson has been around for years. I’m a little leery of him. Johnson has a huge following on X, but he’s been fired for plagiarism and poor editorial judgment in the past. His biggest talent seems to be self promotion.

      I heard Roger Stone on his WABC show Sunday talking about the JFK files. He said there are different documents regarding the assassination in various departments of the government, but nobody knows for sure what they are and what they contain. Stone also said there is no telling how many incriminating documents have been destroyed over the past 60 years.

  8. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    We are in a Constitutional crisis as everything Joe “The Dip$#!t” Biden signed or was signed via autopen is suspect. He was and is non compos and he never should have been elected, let alone allowed to stay in office. This is treason and those responsible need to hang.

  9. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    I missed this –

    Ex-Harris County DA Kim Ogg joins Commissioner Tom Ramsey’s office as policy advisor

    Ramsey can’t seem to get any attention to the massive numbers of City of Houston employees working from home, or getting paid to supposedly work for CoH, so not sure they can get anything done.

    https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/harris-county/2025/01/06/509938/kim-ogg-commissioner-tom-ramsey-policy-advisor-harris-county/

  10. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Well it’s Hump Day.
    Mornin’ Gang

  11. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Local news; Dothan man arrested weeks after Biden commuted his sentence.

    DOTHAN, Ala. (WTVY) – A Dothan man is back in trouble with the law only two months after former President Biden commuted his sentence.

    Dothan police charged Willie Frank Peterson on Monday with possessing cocaine, hydrocodone, marijuana, and two counts of illegally possessing firearms.

    Arrest warrants indicate he was apprehended at his State Avenue home.

    Federal court records show a federal judge sentenced Peterson to 75 months in August 2023. On January 17, three days before leaving office, Biden commuted his sentence and those of others. Records show he was released from prison the following week.

    Peterson, according to federal prosecutors, conspired with Dothan pastor Kenneth Glasgow, who is the half-brother of civil rights advocate and television commentator Al Sharpton.

    ~SPITS~

  12. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    Does anyone here know GJT is living in the midst of a giant Cuban crime wave over there in Waller County ?

    “Individuals killing unborn babies by performing illegal abortions in Texas will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, and I will not rest until justice is served,” Paxton said in a press release. “I will continue to fight to protect life and work to ensure that anyone guilty of violating our state’s pro-life laws is held accountable.”

    and,

    On March 17 Paxton announced the arrest of 48-year-old Maria Margarita Rojas — known as “Dr. Maria” — for “providing illegal abortions and illegally operating a network of clinics” near northwest Houston. The next day, he announced the arrest of 29-year-old Jose Manuel Cendan Ley for “the unlawful performance of an abortion and the unlicensed practice of medicine.” Rojas also faces charges for “practicing medicine without a license.”

    1. Super Dave Avatar
      Super Dave

      network of clinics?!?! How many are there and where are they located?!

      1. Texpat Avatar
        Texpat

        You have to read the whole article to know.

    2. GJT Avatar
      GJT

      I saw that. Crazy.

    3. Shannon Avatar
      Shannon

      It’s been all over the local news.

  13. Dr phil Good-E=1984 Avatar
    Dr phil Good-E=1984

    Wasn’t a boatload of JFK files supposed to be released yesterday?
    didn’t hear a peep about them? was I sleeping?

    epstein files? Where are they?
    pam blondie where are you? Pulling a Jeff sessions?

    are the low level corrupt kangaroos still running the country today?

    in 2020 an autopen stole the election and was selected president.
    apparently that’s ok with the r-can’ts.

    1. Texpat Avatar
      Texpat

      They were released last night. See my 11:01 AM comment.

  14. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Federal Judge Orders Astronauts Be Returned To Space Station.

    U.S. — A district judge has issued a ruling saying Trump lacked the Constitutional authority to pick up two astronauts who have been stranded at the International Space Station for several months.

    SpaceX has been ordered to return the astronauts immediately.

    “I will not stand by while Donald Trump abuses his power like a dictator,” said Judge Earl Flanders in his ruling. “Trump has no authority to pick up these astronauts, and I can say that because I’m a federal judge, and no one is allowed to argue with me, and everyone has to do what I say.”

    Eyewitnesses say the judge then donned a Keffiyeh and spray painted a Cybertruck while screaming “Black Lives Matter.”

    Sources in Washington say Trump plans to brazenly ignore the lawful order and bring the astronauts home anyway. “This is just the kind of wanton lawlessness we should expect from a dictator who is literally Hitler,” said one legal analyst.

    The SpaceX craft docked at the ISS on Sunday and was preparing for the return journey to Earth when the orders stopped the process short. “Please bring us home, I just want a cheeseburger and a nap in a horizontal bed,” said one of the crew.

    At publishing time, Trump was polling at 100% approval among the stranded astronaut demographic.

    1. Bonecrusher Avatar
      Bonecrusher

      Brilliant! I want to see some federal judges tarred and feathered for their insolence.

    2. GJT Avatar
      GJT

      Perfect! 😀 😀

  15. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    Here are the 80,000 pages of JFK files released last night.

    JFK Assassination Records – 2025 Documents Release

    March 18, 2025 Release

    In accordance with President Donald Trump’s directive of March 17, 2025, all records previously withheld for classification that are part of the President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection are released. 

    The National Archives has partnered with agencies across the federal government to comply with the President’s directive in support of Executive Order 14176

    As of March 18, 2025, the records are available to access either online at this page or in person, via hard copy or on analog media formats, at the National Archives at College Park, Maryland. As the records continue to be digitized, they will be posted to this page.

    About the JFK Records

    Main Page

    Background

    Warren Commission Report

    House Select Committee on Assassinations Report

    Assassination Records Review Board Report

    Sections 10 and 11

    Section 10 of the President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992 addresses information under court seal or for grand jury secrecy, and section 11 of the Act addresses records with tax return information subject to section 6103 of the Internal Revenue Code (IRS) or deeded to the government from a private citizen. 

    Accessing the Records

    The table below displays the file names and links to all of the documents released on March 18, 2025. They are sorted by Record Identification Form (RIF) number, which is included in the filename.

    7 PM EST Release: 32,000 pages (1,123 PDF files)

    10:30 PM EST Release: 31,400 pages (1,059 PDF files)

    1. Dr phil Good-E=1984 Avatar
      Dr phil Good-E=1984

      Thanks.

  16. Dr phil Good-E=1984 Avatar
    Dr phil Good-E=1984

    the kangaroo branch has completely cratered and since it’s obviously wholly owned by the totalitariancrat party that should render all lower penguin court decisions null and void.

  17. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    Popping in quickly – I was about to get started on my indoor stuff (workout, shower, then all y’all) when Hubby reminded me that we had a hot lunch date at the steakhouse today.

    So, I’m going to say hello, get you the roundup and link to today’s column, and then try to get some quick treadmill time and a shower before we head out for lunch.

    So, “Hello! Glad you’re all here!” Next…

  18. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    Mr. C. got his dates confused and I had to double take his column header, but here’s the link to today’s column and the roundup:

    Good morning, C&C, it’s Wednesday! Today’s bursting roundup includes: the JFK documents were finally released and we begin to sift through all the noisy hot takes; progress in the proxy war as Trump and Putin get down to brass shell casings; Middle East heats back up as war breaks out all over; Trump versus Houthi militants; Trump meets with Middle East leaders; economic apocalypse evaporates in the warmth of continuing good economic news; experts pivot on inflation predictions; Trump team doubles down on tariffs despite of dour corporate media coverage; controversy swirls over efforts to impeach overreaching judges; and New York Times notices that Trump isn’t just sitting around hoping for favorable mid-terms.

  19. Dr phil Good-E=1984 Avatar
    Dr phil Good-E=1984

    Why can’t the r-can’t lawyers ever kangaroo shop and get the kangaroo result they want?

    are they all snidely whiplash?

    1. Shannon Avatar
      Shannon

      Surely you are aware that Conservative plaintiffs routinely shop for sympathetic, conservative judges.

      1. Dr phil Good-E=1984 Avatar
        Dr phil Good-E=1984

        Do they ever win? So far it’s 27-0 totalitariancrat kangaroos.

        https://x.com/state_secession/status/1902157962983965008

  20. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    I have finally come to rest. I had a very enjoyable lunch with Hubby. We are trying for a nice lunch date involving delicious food at least once a month. Then I ran a package to UPS to get shipped for him – a pulley for his baby that needs some adjusting, or something like that. Thrift shop – found two tubs for my garden; the old ones are falling apart. Grocery shopping and topping off of the gas before I leave on Friday to hug grandkids. Now, home.

    There’s an event at church that I’d like to help with tonight, but parking in the area sucks right now. It was tight before, but the the city decided – without warning – to start tearing up the street next to our church to resurface it and put in new curbs.

    I was up late last night getting some bookkeeping cleaned up, so I’m a little tired now. But Carl Higbie is on right now…he just made some interesting comments regarding the ICA/CIA/Kennedy files. Hmmm…..

  21. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    Mr. C’s take on the Kennedy files release:

    It is wall-to-wall hot takes. My first attempt to sort through all the independent takes on social media turned up outright fakes, ham-handed edits trying to boost narrative appeal and clicks, recycled, long-released documents claimed to be newly released, and overall it was something like a giant Rorschach test wherein influencers large and small declared with no hesitation or reservation whatsoever having conclusively scryed in the fog of early releases whatever predetermined conclusion they had long hoped to find.

    I agree. People will see what they want to see, whether it’s there or not. And folks are wissed off that there’s no table of contents and clickable hyperlinks in the dump:

     …Apparently, folks expected that the government not only would release the unredacted documents but also would highlight the smoking guns and feed them to us with an unredacted spoon. Don’t cancel me, but that optimistic expectation may have been slightly, just a smidge, unrealistic.

    Grow the heck up, folks.

    As far as I can tell from the first 12 hours of hot takes, there was some interesting new material released about the CIA’s Cold War dirty tricks and spy techniques that have intrigued some long-time deep-state watchers… 

    He goes on to deliver some of the docs that illustrate his point. As time goes on and more eyes see the papers, and after time to digest the content, we’ll probably get more interesting things to verbally chew on.

    At this point, all we know for sure is that a lot of historically interesting documents have been released, nobody has yet found a smoking redaction pen, and we haven’t seen them all yet.

  22. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    Trump and Putin continue to discuss things and move towards some sort of peace settlement.

    The green sweatshirt was excluded from the discussion. Some analysts pointed out that his conspicuous absence underscored the real conflict to be resolved is the one between the U.S. and Russia, with admittedly eager Ukraine serving as an American proxy. But what I found most interesting in the readouts of the calls was that both Putin’s and Trump’s included a reference to discussion over resolving the conflict in the Middle East.

    Wouldn’t it be nice if they solved some of this Middle East mess, too? The cease fire between Gaza and Israel went down in flames, literally, after Hamas casually lifted its middle finger to Israel over the release of more hostages. They just go out of their way to be a boil on the butt of the world.

    Then Syria’s government has fallen, with the related pain that brings to its people.

    By my count, Israel —supported by the U.S.— is currently and openly fighting Hamas in Gaza, Hezbollah in Lebanon, Houthi militants in Yemen, and ambiguous armies in Syria. And a new open conflict is once again brewing between Israel and Iran.

    It’s an absolute mess.

  23. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    And Trump has been busy against the Houthis, too. Of course the libs wanted this to be a Trump failure, so of course the failure and deaths of our service men and women would be acceptable collateral damage if only Trump would lose. Just once.

    Just over two years ago, the Yemeni militants exploded onto the global stage due to their missile and drone attacks against commercial shipping and U.S. warships in a narrow, Red Sea chokepoint called the Bab-el-Mandeb Strait, shown above. Not only did the attacks humiliate the U.S., which kept losing, but since the strait is used for ten percent of the world’s shipping transit, they also spiked worldwide costs and prices.

    I have long argued in C&C that these Yemenese attacks are part and parcel to the Proxy War in Ukraine. Russia repeatedly warned Biden that, if the U.S. kept arming Ukraine, Russia would start arming the U.S.’s problematic regional adversaries. I cannot prove the Russians began supplying more advanced arms to the Houthis, but the timing and circumstantial evidence fit.

  24. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    Continuing Mr. C.’s discussion about the Middle East:

    So it was no wonder that Trump and Putin’s call included discussions over the Middle East. My simplified reading is that, when the Ukraine proxy war ends and America stops arming Russia’s enemy, then Russia will stop helping the U.S.’s (and Israel’s) enemies, and the Middle East situation can be resolved next.

    . America’s recent attacks on the Houthis … were almost certainly one of Trump’s opening moves in brokering a permanent peace in the Middle East.

    … Trump appears to be working on a truly global resolution, not just between Russia and Ukraine, but among all major conflicts that Biden’s neocons allowed to spiral out of control.

    ***

    The breathtaking scope of Trump’s worldwide peace plan is right there, for anyone to see, except that corporate media is bumbling along like Mr. Magoo at an eye exam.

    I hope he’s right.

  25. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    Then a discussion of the “sky is falling” predictions by the “experts” and the less expert media about Trump’s tariffs birthing an economic catastrophe. Then stories about industries gearing up and producing more, including more jobs. So which is it?

    And reciprocal tariffs kick in on April 2. Because April 1 is reserved for Democrat Recognition Day. After the foolishness, we will mirror the trade restrictions of other countries. Goose, meet gander.

    The obvious implication is that this will force other countries to lower their trade duties on U.S.-made products. Treasury Secretary Bessent suggested that many tariffs may never even take effect, because countries will quickly agree to lower or eliminate their own import duties before the April 2nd “liberation day” announcement.

    WaPo’s Eeyore-like experts gloomily gnashed that it will never work. We shall see.

  26. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    After calling the impeachment brou-ha-ha a wash, there being some good in the process but it’s not likely to succeed, Mr. Childers goes on to the prognistication about the Democrats’ chances in upcoming elections:

    They are finally starting to notice what’s happening to them. The walls are closing in on Democrat mid-term hopes. Yesterday, the New York Times ran an unintentionally encouraging story headlined, “With Orders, Investigations and Innuendo, Trump and G.O.P. Aim to Cripple the Left.” That’s not an exaggeration.

    I remember well sitting in a conservative action group meeting four years ago and watching a presentation by a major influencer about Soros-funded Arabella Advisors. I’ll never forget the crazily intricate flow chart of cash flows. Shadowy leftist “charitable organization” Arabella has snaky financial tendrils extending into nearly every leftwing protest group, every corporate media company, and most big corporations like Disney.

    The influencer persuasively argued that, unless Republicans can somehow halt the left’s dark-money finance operation, nothing will ever change.

    Welcome to Trump World! Arabella, Act Blue, et al, are now being exposed and hopefully crucified. At the very least, the poison that feeds the left is being halted, or at least slowed down.

    A GOP representative denied any coordinated effort to take down the Democrat party, simply because it is doing that well enough on its own.

    Okay, that cracked me up – because it’s true. And their expectation that Trump will lose Congressional seats in the mid-term may not be panning out, either.

    I’ll be first to say it. From what we can see from here, the Democrats appear headed toward a historically devastating and catastrophic mid-term election. They only have about eight more months to get their act together before the 2025 mid-term election season begins in earnest.

    Truthfully, their real deadline looms much sooner. Fundraising, candidate recruitment, and messaging must all be locked in within the next few months, especially given the structural disadvantages Democrats currently face….What leadership? Or worse, how do prospects for recovering the House appear amidst an internal civil war over whether to race further left or pivot back to the center?

    I don’t know about y’all, but I think I’m going to run out of popcorn.

  27. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    I would really like to see a 3rd party emerge. I want to see the Ds split with the far left lunatic AOC contingent one one side and a moderate, somewhat reasonable (a reasonable D almost sounds like an oxymoron) D on the other. There could be a whole lot more accomplished if the moderate Ds were not terrified of the far left lunatics.

    1. Shannon Avatar
      Shannon

      You are assuming that there is a sizable cohort of intelligent, coherent, common sense, old-thyme, middle-of-the-road, yet lost and politically homeless wandering around out there.

      Show me.

  28. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    The woman who founded the Quillette site during the worst of Coid shutdowns, Claire Lehmann, a supposed libertarian open minded person, has now gone to war with Elon Musk and has seemingly condoned the attacks on his dealerships and Tesla customers. Claire provided a great venue for non-leftist writers and opinion makers at a critical time. WHAT IN THE HELL IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE ??? She is an attractive woman. Did Elon turn her down ? Did she get her little feelings hurt ?

    1. Bonecrusher Avatar
      Bonecrusher

      What we are witnessing on a large scale is the big separation of the sheep and the goats, goats on the left naturally.

  29. Dr phil Good-E=1984 Avatar
    Dr phil Good-E=1984

    Apparently the satanic Kenyan did get a fourth term via the kangaroo branch.

    if Trump keeps giving validation to these illegal TROs he’s going to wake up 4 years later with nothing accomplished.

    russia hoax via tyrannical kangaroos dressed as penguins.
    draw the line now or cave and lose it all.

  30. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I listened to Benny Johnson’s great interview with Rep. Luna.

    House Oversight Chair James Comer chose well he chose Rep. Luna to be Chair of the Task Force for the Declassification of Federal Secrets.
    This woman is a very sharp, no-nonsense leader.
    She denies that there will yet be unreleased documents held back by the spook community. She insists that Gabbard, Patel, and especially Ratcliff are all in on this Presidential order.

    We can only hope.

    There will be new revelations, but as I said here months ago, the most damning evidence is long buried in the ground. Never to be revealed to us peasants.

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