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From Dr. Malone’s Substack:

Birthright Citizenship Will be Overturned

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws”

-Section 1 of the 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution

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Section 1 of the 14th Amendment, also known as the Citizenship Clause, was ratified by Congress on July 9, 1868, and was meant to extend citizenship to freed slaves and their children.

Whether or not the 14th Amendment applied to people who were not citizens was challenged …. and the Supreme Court ruled in 1898 in a case known as “United States v. Wong Kim Ark.” This was the landmark Supreme Court ruling that determined that a child, in this case, Wong Kim Ark, born in the United States to parents who were ineligible for naturalization … was still a U.S. citizen…. This established a precedent for birthright citizenship…. The Supreme Court has not revisited this ruling, so the precedent of the Wong Kim Ark stands to this day. It all seems straightforward enough. Right? Wrong…

The fourteenth amendment clearly states that persons born in the United States must be “subject to the jurisdiction thereof.”

The question is, what does that phrase mean?

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But the truth is that the United States v. Wong Kim Ark case is very different from what has happened today. That is, the masses of illegal aliens using this legal precedent to cross the border for the purpose of having “anchor babies.” …

My opinion is that President Trump’s executive order will target those children who are born to illegal aliens, as he has said in multiple interviews.

It’s important to note that while Wong Kim Ark’s parents were legally residing in the United States, they were not eligible for U.S. citizenship due to the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882.

Section 1 of the 14th amendment was never meant to apply to the children of people in this country illegally.

An excellent article on the 14th amendment was written in 2018, by Hans A. von Spakovsky, legal scholar at the Heritage Foundation. In that article, he explains:

Critics erroneously believe that anyone present in the United States has “subjected” himself “to the jurisdiction” of the United States, which would extend citizenship to the children of tourists, diplomats, and illegal aliens alike.

But that is not what that qualifying phrase means. Its original meaning refers to the political allegiance of an individual and the jurisdiction that a foreign government has over that individual.

The fact that a tourist or illegal alien is subject to our laws and our courts if they violate our laws does not place them within the political “jurisdiction” of the United States as that phrase was defined by the framers of the 14th Amendment.

This amendment’s language was derived from the 1866 Civil Rights Act, which provided that “[a]ll persons born in the United States, and not subject to any foreign power” would be considered citizens.

Sen. Lyman Trumbull, a key figure in the adoption of the 14th Amendment, said that “subject to the jurisdiction” of the U.S. included not owing allegiance to any other country.

As John Eastman, former dean of the Chapman School of Law, has said, many do not seem to understand “the distinction between partial, territorial jurisdiction, which subjects all who are present within the territory of a sovereign to the jurisdiction of that sovereign’s laws, and complete political jurisdiction, which requires allegiance to the sovereign as well.”

In the famous Slaughter-House cases of 1872, the Supreme Court stated that this qualifying phrase was intended to exclude “children of ministers, consuls, and citizens or subjects of foreign States born within the United States.” This was confirmed in 1884 in another case, Elk vs. Wilkins, when citizenship was denied to an American Indian because he “owed immediate allegiance to” his tribe and not the United States.

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Even in U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, the 1898 case most often cited by “birthright” supporters due to its overbroad language, the court only held that a child born of lawful, permanent residents was a U.S. citizen. That is a far cry from saying that a child born of individuals who are here illegally must be considered a U.S. citizen.

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How this could all play out in the coming months and years:

Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT) and other Republican legal scholars argue that “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” should exclude the children from illegal aliens from the protections.

This could be accomplished simply by applying Section 5 of the 14th Amendment. Section 5 states that: “The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.”

Hence, by a simple majority, Congress can clarify the Section 1 clause of the 14th Amendment. [emphasis mine]

…we can expect that President Trump’s executive order will rely on legal scholars …

This will then be followed by Congressional action to clarify further and enforce the full provisions of section 1 of the 14th Amendment.

Of course, it will be challenged in the court of law, with the Supreme Court making the final determination.

The final result will most likely be a scaling back of the 14th Amendment to its original intent. It won’t happen as quickly as one might hope, but it will happen. This will alter the fabric of the United States for future generations and is critically important to maintaining the fabric and nature of American society.

Legal immigration will not stop, nor does anyone want it to. But the United States can not allow unfettered and illegal immigration. The vast majority of Americans agree on this point.

These controls start with both the closing of the border and the loophole developed by the Supreme Court ruling of 1898, which is known as “United States v. Wong Kim Ark”. President Trump is right – birthright citizenship will end because the legal precedent used to maintain this status quo is defunct. It is just a matter of time and will. President Trump has the will and four more years – so let’s get it done!


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Dr phil Good-E=1984
December 11, 2024 9:23 pm

When in doubt.
reboot.
yes but did you cold boot it?

Shannon
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December 11, 2024 5:30 pm

Receiving the Medal Of Freedom

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Shannon
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December 11, 2024 4:18 pm

FemiNazis refusing to breed.

Surely missing you, Rush.

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Super Dave
December 11, 2024 2:01 pm

I just saw a blur on Fox of Biden saying that he is leaving Trump the best economy ever! And if you don’t believe him just check out the article in Time Magazine. Time Magazine?!?! TIME MAGAZINE?!?! BAWHAHAHAHA!!!!! yeah Right! 😀

Shannon
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December 11, 2024 1:28 pm

I had no Internet for a couple hours this morning (on the road).

I had just about decided the Iranians and their little drone army on our east coast had shut it all down.

Texpat
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December 11, 2024 1:27 pm

Holy Crap ! A New Jersey congressman claimed Wednesday that the mystery drones over the Garden State are from Iran, and they’re being launched by a mothership parked off the East Coast.Rep. Jeff Van Drew, a Republican, said the drones “very possibly could be” from Iran, citing confidential sources during an appearance on Fox News Wednesday morning.“These drones should be shot down,” he said, adding that “the military is on full alert with this.” and, “These are from high sources, I don’t say this lightly,” he added, categorically ruling out that the drones were being flown by hobbyists or the US government… Read more »

Texpat
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December 11, 2024 1:23 pm

We don’t do any online banking or financial transactions. But there is a ton of information on everyone stored on these clouds. There have a lot of people buying AMD stock that may get hammered with this news. If a VM has been backdoored, the cryptographic attestation will fail and immediately alert the VM admin of the compromise. Or at least that’s how SEV-SNP is designed to work. BadRAM is an attack that a server admin can carry out in minutes, using either about $10 of hardware, or in some cases, software only, to cause DDR4 or DDR5 memory modules to misreport… Read more »

Texpat
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December 11, 2024 12:48 pm

Chris Loesch, husband of Dana:

Hey CEOs of big companies that overwhelmingly support Democrats and leftist causes. Do you see how Hollywood and leftist news are making a hero out of a guy that murdered one of you? Do you see them making him a sex symbol? Do you care about your life or your families?

Stop feeding the beast!

Texpat
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December 11, 2024 12:15 pm

This video is a must watch. I would be happy if we would just let Senator John Kennedy of Louisiana interrogate all the generals and admirals in the military. It would take but a few minutes with each to determine which ones to fire. Kennedy humiliated this man for his incredible arrogance and stage 4 TDS. Manner began his opening statement by highlighting his 35 years of service in the military, including roles such as Deputy Commanding General of the United States Third Army in Kuwait and Acting Vice Chief of the National Guard Bureau. He praised the U.S. military,… Read more »

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Texpat
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December 11, 2024 11:44 am

Another one from Insurrection Barbie:

To all the feminists pledging to withhold sex in protest of Trump’s election…If you actually possessed that level of discipline, abortion wouldn’t have been your #1 issue to begin with.

Texpat
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December 11, 2024 11:33 am

This woman is on my list of favorite X commentators.

Insurrection Barbie

@DefiyantlyFree

Nov 2

JLo spent 30 mins crying and warning everyone about Donald Trump but she didn’t warn one single person about Diddy.

Ok. Got it.

Texpat
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December 11, 2024 10:19 am

It’s a balmy, rainy day here at 63 degrees. When we get up on Saturday morning it will be 18 degrees heating up to a high of 36.

Bonecrusher
December 11, 2024 10:19 am

I think it is pretty clear to most thinking people that vote by mail represents an unreasonable breach in voting integrity. From this article there is this gem:

Pollsters have previously uncovered evidence that mail-in voting fraud was endemic and extensive enough to sway the results of the 2020 election.

The fraud was blatant and widespread in mail in votes. It is impossible to reasonably secure the mail in ballot, therefore the practice should be banned. If states insist on having mail in ballots that inevitably taint the election, their electoral votes should not count.

Texpat
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December 11, 2024 9:37 am

Dang, I forgot to wish Squawk a happy “Pansexual and Panromantic Pride Day !”

“Today on Pansexual and Panromantic Pride Day, everyone deserves to feel seen, respected and supported—no matter who they love. Create a world where everyone feels proud to be themselves!” HHS declared in the tweet.

and,

Rep. Jim Banks, R-Ind., who will become a senator next month, tweeted, “Glad this type of bulls— will end on Jan 20! Can’t come soon enough.”

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Texpat
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December 11, 2024 9:03 am

Comedian Rob Schneider is producing a new show on Fox that will be all women and run head up against The View. Put those silly, absurd women on ABC out of business. It’s way past time somebody did this. It is supposed to start in early January.

Super Dave
December 11, 2024 8:30 am

Well my 3 boxes of very expensive NOS Remington 38 S&W ammo is sitting on the UPS loading dock over in enterprise waiting to be loaded up and sent through the Reservation to this old house.

GJT
GJT
December 11, 2024 8:27 am

While President-elect Trump can end birthright citizenship by executive order….

I did not realize a simple executive order could override an amendment.

Texpat
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December 11, 2024 8:19 am

…and there were only 3 dozen people out of 344 million in America who believed Roe vs Wade would ever be overturned.

GJT
GJT
December 11, 2024 7:22 am

33 Brrrr

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Bonecrusher
December 11, 2024 7:16 am

Happy Hump Day fellow couch dwellers.

Super Dave
December 11, 2024 7:06 am

Oh and about the O.C. topics, I finally got to read the “Counterrevolution Blueprint” the other day and it was really good.
Well it’s 53 now down from 55 when I got up and that will be our high for the day. This after my wife turned on the A/C last night. 😉

Super Dave
December 11, 2024 5:11 am

Birthright Citizenship Will be Overturned I hate to bust your bubble but that’ll NOT happen. Not in my lifetime. First, I’ve not read the piece but even though everyone and his cousin knows the Fourteenth Amendment was to give freed slaves citizenship it was bastardized to get around immigration laws so Democrats and Republicans alike could get their cheap labor force. There might be a lot of screaming and chest pumping by the likes of John Cornyn, Linda Graham and John Thune BUT they’ll not try to correct the problem. NEVER! In other news we’re finally getting a good rain,… Read more »

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