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Tuesday Census Open Comments

The Census – Where Citizens and Illegal Aliens Collide

Republicans have put forth a bill to ask on the next census the citizenship status of the respondents, and call that only citizens be counted towards the apportionment of representatives in the House. Currently every warm body is used to apportion representatives (and electors).  Changing this raises some interesting issues:

The Electoral College distribution is determined by the number of congressional seats – so the number of US representatives a state has plus two senators equals its number of presidential electors. Since there are 435 seats in the US House and 100 in the Senate, that means there are 535 electors spread out across the 50 states, plus three in Washington, DC, for a total of 538. The states that either gained or lost representatives after the last census also gained or lost an equal number of electors.

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…the states with the highest concentration of undocumented residents stand to lose the most. According to the Pew Research Center, the states with the most non-citizens – the biggest losers, in this situation – are California, Texas, Florida, New York, New Jersey, and Illinois.

It’s important to note that the two red states on that list – Texas and Florida – are the two biggest contributors to Republican electors. Yes, the Democratic Party stands to lose more than a few representatives and presidential electors, but so does the GOP. Still, Democrats unanimously oppose this effort. The House passed the bill 206 to 202, split precisely along party lines.

The White House warned that this bill … “It would also violate the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution, which requires that the number of seats in the House of Representatives ‘be apportioned among the several States according to their respective members, counting the whole number of persons in each State,’”…

Republicans make the point that if people aren’t legally allowed to vote (although that restriction has never stopped them from doing so), they shouldn’t expect representation; also, allowing illegal votes dilutes voters’ power among different areas.

 For example, Illinois and Pennsylvania both have 17 seats in the House and 19 presidential electors – but there are considerably more non-citizens in Illinois than in Pennsylvania, giving actual voters in Illinois a stronger voice in national politics.

And this point is being made as well:

Introducing the bill in the House, Rep. Chuck Edwards (R-NC) said, “Incentivizing illegal immigration and exploiting our democracy to skew the number of congressional seats or electoral votes for the presidency is immoral and a sure path to the downfall of our nation. Only American citizens can vote, and only American citizens should be counted when determining federal representation.”

Of course, the left would fight this tooth and nail, and the meat puppet would surely nix it on arrival.

But the question remains: Should anyone living in the U.S. expect representation that they are not legally allowed to vote for?  Should they have representation at all?  Should simply breathing American air qualify them to vote?  Is it humanitarian to disallow them a voice in the Chamber? And where does this lead if they do have the rights of representation, as if they were citizens?  Why even become a citizen then?  Does this devalue the privilege of citizenship and make new illegals more incentivized to ignore the rules?

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31 responses to “Tuesday Census Open Comments”

  1. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Well we got .70″ of rain since midnight to go with the 1.81″ yesterday for a total of 2.51″. Pretty dang good and we’ll take it. It’s cleared up now and I need to get out and saw up a few limbs that fell yesterday. The was a big pecan limb broken off and hanging down from the tree behind the Pole Barn that I couldn’t reach but it also fell so I can cut it up and get rid of it.
    Daughter made it back to midland by about 11 PM last night so she was glad to get home.
    Mornin’ Gang

  2. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Who remembers the Hula Popper’s & Jitterbug’s? I certainly do.
    Fred Arbogast Catalog 1950

  3. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    I’m pretty sure those were my first lures as a boy.

    1. Super Dave Avatar
      Super Dave

      Always in my Dad’s tackle box but the second best ever artificial lure for Bass is a Mepps #3 with pork rinds for a tail, of course a purple worm is the best. At least in my experience. 😉

  4. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    I am not the only one to notice the overwhelmingly female cohort of emotionally and mentally ill campus protestors. Heather MacDonald has too. RTWDT.

    Hysterics for Hamas

    Why the apparent gender gap? One possible reason is that women constitute majorities of both student bodies and the metastasizing student-services bureaucracies that cater to them. Another is the sex skew in majors. The hard sciences and economics, whose students are less likely to take days or weeks out from their classes to party (correction: “stand against genocide”) in cool North Face tents, are still majority male. The humanities and soft social sciences, the fields where you might even get extra credit for your intersectional activism, are majority female. (Not surprisingly, males have spearheaded recent efforts to guard the American flag against desecration.) In progressive movements, the default assumption now may be to elevate females ahead of males as leaders and spokesmen. But most important, the victim ideology that drives much of academia today, with its explicit enmity to objectivity and reason as white male constructs, has a female character.

    plus this,

    It was also not too long ago when college campuses were shutting down or locking students in their dorms as an anti-Covid policy, notwithstanding overwhelming evidence showing that adolescents faced virtually no chance of serious Covid complications. This zero-risk policy, in its inability to balance costs and benefits rationally, was quintessentially female. It is fitting, therefore, that N95 masks have been repurposed as go-to accessories for the most up-to-date anti-settler-colonialist look. Females at the Columbia rally in front of Butler Library passed out the masks to the few participants not already wrapped up like mummies. When asked what the point was, one distributor answered, “to protect against Covid”—an answer that, sadly, could as easily be sincere as duplicitous.

    1. Super Dave Avatar
      Super Dave

      Heather MacDonald is one of the brave ones, she doesn’t care that they call her a racist for stating facts about the problems with the black race in this country.

  5. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    This is the most prestigious black university in America. It is run almost exclusively by black administrators.

    Somehow, this is the fault of Donald Trump and the White Patriarchy. They purposely didn’t teach the black administrators as children how to do simple statistical reasoning and analysis. As in how to estimate the potential size of a crowd at a student graduation.

    Then the violent parents were victims of extreme emotional distress from slavery that ended over 150 years ago.

    A graduation ceremony for nursing students at Howard University ended abruptly and in chaos after angry family members chanted “Let us in!” and pounded on the doors and smashed a window after being locked out when the auditorium hit capacity.

     

    Loved ones of students in the College of Nursing and Allied Health Sciences packed into the Cramton Auditorium in Washington, DC, on Thursday, but not all relatives made it inside the building before the ceremony was abruptly canceled during the keynote address.

    Chaotic video footage shows dozens of people standing outside the auditorium chanting, “Let us in! Let us in!” as the ceremony began. 

    Pictures showed a glass door had been shattered during the commotion as people banged on the doors and tried to push past security to go inside.

    Howard administrators blamed the DC fire department, but the DCFD said they never said anything to anybody about shutting down the event.

  6. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    It’s a relief to know black people weren’t dying of heart failure because of me and The Donald. Since Obama was first elected virtually all health problems of African-Americans have been attributed to bad, mean, racist white people.

    Now, two white, Jewish men have led the study to save black lives.

    Researchers at Brigham and Women’s Hospital and Duke University showed that a genetic variant, present in 3-4% of self-identified Black individuals in the U.S., increases the risk for both heart failure and death and contributes to significant decreases in longevity at the population level.

    and,

    “We believe these data will inform clinicians and patients regarding risk when these genetic findings are known, either through family screening, medical, or even commercial genetic testing,” said senior author Scott D. Solomon, MD, the Edward D. Frohlich Distinguished Chair, Professor of Medicine at Brigham and Women’s Hospital and Harvard Medical School. “There are now several potential new therapies for cardiac amyloidosis, and understanding the magnitude of this risk, at the individual and societal level, will help determine which patients might be best suited for novel therapies.”

    1. Super Dave Avatar
      Super Dave

      Yes but you’re NOT allowed to say anything about race having something to do with genetics THAT would make you a racist!

  7. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    American colleges and universities were quite happy to collaborate with Hitler and Third Reich activities in the 1930s.

    In an interview, Norwood describes university leaders as indifferent to evidence of a barbaric regime rising abroad in part because of their own polices of anti-Semitism and exclusion back home. “They just didn’t care very deeply about Jews and anti-Semitism because they were themselves involved in maintaining quota barriers against Jewish students. There were very, very few Jews on the faculties of American universities throughout the entire inter-war period. And there are whole fields that were basically off-limits to Jews,” he says.

    Norwood’s book begins by laying out the evidence of Germany’s “unprecedented relapse into barbarism” in the months immediately following Hitler’s ascent to power: “The Nazis’ anti-Semitic terror in 1933 precipitated demonstrations and boycotts on an unprecedented scale, often initiated at the grassroots level,” Norwood writes.

     “But although academicians were the Americans most conversant with European affairs, few engaged in public anti-Nazi protest. As many working and lower-middle-class Americans marched in the streets and struggled to organize a nationwide boycott of German goods and services, American universities maintained amicable relations with the Third Reich, sending their students to study at Nazified universities while welcoming Nazi exchange students to their own campuses. American’s most distinguished university presidents willingly crossed the Atlantic in ships flying the swastika flag, openly defying the anti-Nazi boycott, to the benefit of the Third Reich’s economy. By warmly receiving Nazi diplomats and propagandists on campus, they helped Nazi Germany present itself to the American public as a civilized nation, unfairly maligned in the press.”

  8. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Great story from over yonder;

    I live in an 1870s farmhouse in California. While gardening one day last year, I espied a glint of gold! I had dug up a thick gold band! I rinsed it off and found that it was inscribed inside, Elinor Aberdeen 1870. I have lived in this house for 38 years and this was by far the most interesting thing I have ever found!

    I called my friend Sharlene Van Rooy, who is a historical detective buff, and together we spent hours of research finding all the previous owners of the house.

    Finally, we “struck gold”. We discovered that the local postmaster, Llewellyn Thornton, had lived in the house between 1892-1901, and he had a grandmother named Elinor Aberdeen!

    Elinor was born in Ireland in 1808. She had one daughter with John Aberdeen in 1833. This daughter married and came to California. Elinor stayed in Kentucky. She died on July 1, 1880 at the age of 72 and was buried in Versailles, Kentucky.

    Elinor’s grandson lived in my house after Elinor had died. Logic tells us that the ring was lost by one of his family members here in my yard between 1892-1901. And I found it approximately 122 years later!

    My friend Sharlene and I were able to find the great great granddaughter of Elinor Aberdeen, Mary Doherty, just a few hours away. We met, had a lovely lunch together, and gave her back her long lost family heirloom!

  9. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Oops my @ 8:28 is Awaiting for approval, (3 links) but thankfully Texpat is about. 😉

  10. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    Oops !

    Burnett Plaza, the tallest building in Fort Worth, Texas, has been purchased via foreclosure auction for $12.3 million just three years after it was sold for more than $137.5 million, according to the Dallas Business Journal.

    The 40-story behemoth was bought back by Pinnacle Bank Texas in the auction held on the steps of the Tarrant County courthouse on Tuesday.

    Pinnacle had claimed in public filings that the tower’s former owner, Burnett Cherry Street LLC, an affiliate of New York-based Opal Holdings LLC, defaulted on a $13 million loan used to purchase the building in 2021.

    Constructed in 1983, the distinctive block-sized complex stands at 567 feet tall at 801 Cherry St. and is surrounded by a public urban park.

    It was most recently appraised at $104.5 million by Tarrant Appraisal District, according to the Dallas Business Journal. Tenants include General Motors Financial, Kimley-Horn and Associates, Huckabee, as well as Freese and Nichols.

  11. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    This is fascinating health news.

    The last time I reported on kidney transplants, I noted that DEI readjustments are now being made for calculations based on the medical records associated with patients who have kidney issues and may require organ transplants.

    Over 92,000 people are on the organ transplant list, waiting for a kidney. That represents 87% of the total number of patients who need new organs.

    Researchers recently genetically modified pig kidneys in hopes of making more organs available quickly for patients needing a transplant before a human donor is available. The technology essentially removes the pig DNA components likely to produce an immune response in humans and replaces those bits with genes more compatible with our species. The modified pig embryos are then implanted into a sow.

    and,

    Richard “Rick” Slayman, who made history at age 62 as the first person to receive a kidney from a genetically modified pig, has died about two months after the procedure.

    Massachusetts General Hospital, where Mr. Slayman had the operation, said in a statement on Saturday that its transplant team was “deeply saddened” at his death. The hospital said it had “no indication that it was the result of his recent transplant.”

  12. squawkbox Avatar
    squawkbox

    Well someone in this world has some sense..

    British FM Cameron says UK won’t stop arms sales to Israel, says move would ‘strengthen Hamas’

    The other side of the coin

    Biden’s arms embargo on Israel ’emboldens’ Hamas missile strikes against Jewish state

  13. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    I’ll be out until late this afternoon. Man the batteries ! Load the cannons and don’t a single jihadi over the walls !

  14. squawkbox Avatar
    squawkbox

    My heroes have always been cowboys. So I became one.
    I miss the days riding the range tending to the herd. Sure the work was hard rounding up the strays and chasing the wolves away, but I loved being a cowboy. Everyday there was a new adventure. I never knew what the day would bring. Sometimes I even had to fight off the rustlers and the occasional injuns. Finding new pasture land was always a chore and crossing the rivers with 100s of head of cattle always had its dangers. But at the end of the day when mom called me in the house for supper, I knew I had done a job well done and tomorrow I could do it all over again.

  15. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Working on the mower.
    Got the deck off and scraped out 25 lbs of hard mud from the underside.

    Man, this is a lot harder to do than it used to be.

  16. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    the occasional injuns

    Interlopers! Genocidal heathen!

    1. Super Dave Avatar
      Super Dave

      😀

  17. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    Dipping into today’s C&C before heading out on errands (while the pain killers are working, getting out of bed this morning was….challenging):

    Good morning, C&C, it’s Tuesday! Today’s heroic roundup includes: surge in pediatric colorectal cancer shows trend baffling doctors; new study proves DNA contamination popping up in the most inconvenient places; North Carolina moves to excrete DEI from public universities; New York small firm lawyer shuts down apocalyptic ‘equal rights’ amendment; citizen journalists catch pedo producer; and another little hero gives us all an example of keeping cool under barometric pressure.

    Onward….

  18. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    I saw this headline a day or two ago – blaming all of these new cancers on obesity. Liiiiiiike, obesity just recently began to be a problem?

    Gosh. A trend researchers first noted in 2021? What could have happened to working age adults in 2021? According to Fortune, they suddenly got fatter and started drinking more, that’s what. And more than any other cohort. (And, somebody tell San Fransisco know, sinceright now overpaid nurses dressed as waitresses are pouring free beers for bums. I bet they don’t tip well.)

    If drinking too much is somehow causing colorectal cancers in young adults, what will doctors claim now about the new under-18 group? The younger kids are drinking too much? Fortune explained that adolescent colorectal cancer rates (kids between 10 and 14 and teens from 15 to 19) have skyrocketed by five times and three times, respectively.

    After reading the rest of Mr. C’s analysis and prose, I agree with him: fire all of these health “professionals” and start over.

  19. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    And Pfizer’s exhortations that the jabs were NOT gene changing therapy?

    According to the researchers, it turns out that Pfizer may have slightly under-reported the amounts of DNA contamination in its magic spike protein elixirs. Behold my shocked face: https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/15.0.3/svg/1f611.svg. And by slightly under-reported, I mean by orders of magnitude. Their conclusion included the alarming determination that contaminant DNA enters patients’ cells. In the study authors’ own words: [insert study quote here]

    /snip

    See, what you really don’t want in a vaccine is a cellular delivery system for random bacterial DNA. What could go wrong? One thing that could go wrong is cancer, or ‘oncogenesis’ in public health’s dialect.

    But forget about contamination! Follow the science. Let’s keep looking at obesity and alcohol consumption instead. Except in downtown San Fransisco, that is, where the government-funded booze train must keep trundling down the addiction tracks.

    I’m going to keep all of my rotten tomatoes from my garden just so I can throw them at one of these cretins.

    1. bsue54 Avatar
      bsue54

      let ’em get good and rotten, then freeze them to keep ’em ‘viable – we wouldn’t want them to get toooooooo rotten, right?

      1. Tedtam Avatar
        Tedtam

        Frozen. Good idea. That would hurt more.

  20. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    Mr. C. closes his column by repeating the news story I posted after the big tornado event. A 9 year old boy squirms out of his family’s mangled truck, leaving both of his severely injured parents inside, to get help.

    Feisty little guy. He probably saved his parents’ lives.

    Nine-year-old Branson managed to squirm out of the mangled truck and didn’t waste a moment. Over the roar of the storm, he shouted “Mom, dad, please don’t die, I will be back!” He then raced more than a mile over difficult terrain in pitch darkness — keeping his bearings using lightning flashes — and ran to a neighbor’s house to get help. The young man might even have set a ground speed record for his age bracket, clocking in at a tidy and impressive ten minutes over land and easily beating the field.

    Pass the tissues, please. And dish up a large round of applause.

  21. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    Okay, heading out now that I’m feeling more mobile. I guess it’s time to put the little cooler in the back of my car. It’s getting warm enough now that it will come in handy for the grocery shopping. I keep soft drink bottles full of ice in the freezer so I always have cold stuff to keep other stuff cold. The cooler is the perfect size for the back space in my hatchback.

  22. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    True the Vote’s app allows citizens to help clean the voter rolls.
    https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1790433580037951688

  23. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Non citizens should be prohibited from:
    voting
    Being counted for anything (other than targets for deportation)
    Receiving any government aid
    Having a driver’s license that does not highlighting non citizen status

    All illegal aliens and their spawn should be deported forthwith.

    The side of the glacier is about 60 feet.

  24. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I’m gonna say something some would consider controversial.

    Dallas is not all it’s cracked up to be.

  25. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    Ohio is leading the way on voter integrity:
    https://www.ohiosos.gov/media-center/press-releases/2024/2024-05-14a/

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