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No End to Parallel Universes in Nutrition

 

How about a multiverse where nutritionists always get exactly the answer they want from their studies?

As Alpha Waymond might put it, sure.

This scenario is in fact our reality, according to a recent analysis published in The Journal of Clinical Epidemiology. Nutrition science, and particularly nutritional epidemiology, has a multiverse problem, the paper asserts, and it’s yet another reason to be very skeptical of this research.

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At the heart of the multiverse problem in nutrition is a simple concept known as “analytical flexibility.” No consensus exists in nutrition science about how best to analyze data from the numerous epidemiological surveys that have appeared in the last 60 years to try to make sense of the diet-lifestyle-disease relationship. The epidemiologists have never done the necessary hard work to establish which of any number of strategies and techniques is reliably correct.

Any analytical strategy, as Zeraatkar explained in an interview, can involve hundreds, if not thousands of decisions, large and small, about how best to conduct an analysis.2 Hence, the uncertainty in the diet-health associations that these studies produce is not just about whether we can trust, for instance, that the self-reported dietary data accurately reflects what people really ate, but all the particular decision points made by the researchers doing these analyses. A different analytic technique or different decisions about how best to handle the data can produce different answers – a different multiverse of answers, in effect. Use one set of criteria, and the diet or lifestyle factor of interest will be associated with an increased risk of a particular disease; use a different set of criteria, and the reverse appears true.  How do we know which is right? Which multiverse is our reality, the one we’re living in?

/snip

One obvious implication was that researchers looking for publishable results could easily make the decisions – consciously or subconsciously – to get the results they wanted, whether or not that was the correct result.3


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squawkbox
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April 16, 2024 10:01 pm

Alzheimer’s/dementia are truly one of Satan’s must evil and heinous diseases.

Shannon
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April 16, 2024 9:37 pm

I truly hate this whole Alzheimer’s/dementia thing.
I just buried a 62-year-old good friend and victim of it last weekend.

squawkbox
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April 16, 2024 9:19 pm

Shannon
So I take it the computer is not broken broke as in broke. At your leisure give Harper my phone number. have her call me and i will give it a shot getting her on line.

Shannon
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April 16, 2024 9:14 pm

Three of us talked to Harper tonight. I was the last one to talk to her. She knew who I was. I asked her quite a few questions about various subjects. She was pretty cogent and responded pretty well. She bought some kind of new computer rig but getting it running right is less of a priority right now than… Read more »

GJT
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April 16, 2024 8:42 pm

Shannon – My wife actually does normally drive to Memphis. About 8 1/2-9 hour drive. Last year she did fly (American, I think) and it was much more enjoyable, even though the return flight had issues and she sat in the Memphis airport most of the day. Problem with flying is she has to rent a car if she is… Read more »

squawkbox
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April 16, 2024 7:59 pm

MHarper’s fix might have to begin with Best Buy. They can fix it and if not she is right thee to buy another.

squawkbox
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April 16, 2024 7:56 pm

If Mharper has a. hardware problem one would need to be sitting right in front of the computer. I have done my share of phone fixes but the problems required internet. LOADED QUESTION. What is the computer not doing.

Shannon
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April 16, 2024 7:47 pm

I have the address and number. So does Tedtam.

Texpat
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April 16, 2024 7:44 pm

The only way anyone can give Harper assistance with her computer problems is on the phone. Since it’s a hardware problem, she has no internet access and no email, apparently. The only people who have her number are Tedtam and Shannon.

Texpat
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April 16, 2024 7:32 pm

Somebody needs to call Harper and get her damned address on the record. She has nobody else in her life but the 80 something year old guy next door who just got married and probably has had a heart attack trying to relive the romantic manhood of his twenties.

Shannon
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April 16, 2024 7:17 pm

Good grief. I forgot I have Harper’s number, too.

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April 16, 2024 7:01 pm

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Shannon
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April 16, 2024 6:55 pm

At least it isn’t another insulting Big Pharma commercial, but there’s a new Bunion Surgery commercial that is very close to being as annoying as the Dancing Chubby Chick Ozempic commercial.
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Shannon
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April 16, 2024 6:48 pm

I probably should ask GJT’s wife about flying on that type of regional jet.

Surely she and her girlfriend(s) don’t actually drive the ten hours to Memphis every year to light a candle for Elvis?

Shannon
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April 16, 2024 6:31 pm

Hey Super Dave
Have you ever flown on a Canadian Bomdardier 900 regional jet?

Shannon
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April 16, 2024 6:20 pm

Thanks, Squawk. Melencamp has always been something of an enigma. I’ve always had great respect for his songwriting abilities. And he’s always tread his own path without regard to the opinions of others. We probably would never see eye to eye on politics but I’d still like to spend an evening eating a fine dinner and drinking good wine with… Read more »

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Texpat
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April 16, 2024 6:15 pm

Everything I’ve been involved in throughout my life has involved trucks and trailers, 18 wheelers to one-ton pickups/gooseneck rigs and even a small fleet of box trucks. Some of the happiest times of my life were riding the highways alone in the middle of the night somewhere in Texas, Louisiana, New Mexico, Tennessee or Oklahoma listening to my favorite music… Read more »

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April 16, 2024 5:52 pm

I never found the original Mellencamp story.

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I became a trucker because I found out that I do not play well with others. Here is why I do not play well with others. Everyone is allowed to act stupid once in a while, but too many people really abuse the privilege. – SQK Heh. My late brother-in-law said the same thing when he returned from serving in… Read more »

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Texpat
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CORRECTION: The story I linked to 10:59 AM and Tedtam linked to at 12:33 PM about the Mexican NGO urging illegal aliens to vote for Biden appears to be FAKE. There are only a few bona fide journalists out there and Bill Melugin is one of them. Bill Melugin of Fox News has done more deep reporting on the border… Read more »

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April 16, 2024 2:01 pm

I wonder if Clean Freak would work on the glass door of my small oven? I let it go too long and can’t find anything that works, so far.
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April 16, 2024 1:53 pm

Israel and Iran have been going at it in the shadows for years. Israel has many ways to respond should they decided to do so.

squawkbox
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April 16, 2024 1:38 pm

Israel signals they will retaliate against the Iranians after they figure out how to do it without escalating to a regional war. My response: Pray tell me how Israel can do that? Iran would have to not respond. Iran’s stated reason for this round of missiles was in retaliation for the bombing of that “embassy” (note quotation marks) which was… Read more »

Dr phil Good-E=1984
April 16, 2024 1:02 pm

“My faith informs everything I do.” Said by the phony preacher. The phony fisa approving, without a warrant, speaker of the house, phony preacher is set to throw the game again. I never knew that his faith informed him to backstab, lie, cheat, and let the invasion of the country continue and with all the destruction it brings. drugs, human trafficking,… Read more »

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Texpat
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April 16, 2024 12:51 pm

Why the Self-Cleaning Oven Cycle Will Destroy Your Range We recently had the service guy come and install new high-temp burner on the stovetop. I had ordered the part, but I had a problem uninstalling the burner. It turned out too much heat had warped it. Anyway, he told us to never use the self-cleaning setting on the oven. The… Read more »

squawkbox
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April 16, 2024 11:30 am

Now I know why Liberals walk around free of prosecution.
Stupidity isn’t a crime

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squawkbox
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April 16, 2024 11:27 am

San Fran Nan’s incubator had tinted glass.

squawkbox
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April 16, 2024 11:23 am

Politicians should really come with a warning label. 

squawkbox
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April 16, 2024 11:22 am

Liberals are the reason this country has to put directions on shampoo bottles.

squawkbox
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April 16, 2024 11:19 am

I became a trucker because I found out that I do not play well with others. Here is why I do not play well with others.
Everyone is allowed to act stupid once in a while, but too many people really abuse the privilege.

Texpat
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April 16, 2024 10:59 am

Mexican NGO is openly involved in human trafficking and illegally interfering with American elections. They don’t even hide it. Welcome Migrants!The Resource Center is a complex of 6 offices that is home to HIAS, which provides legal assistance and assistance in obtaining formal documents for job search and integration into the city of Matamoros while they wait to access the… Read more »

Texpat
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April 16, 2024 9:22 am

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Super Dave
April 16, 2024 9:06 am

Oops! 😀

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My @ 8:43 AM “Awaiting Approval” I know, I used 2 links. 😉

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There must be some conclusion we can draw from this…

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