Monday Thuggery Education Open Thread

The laws of human nature are very much like the laws of physics: stubbornly intractable and dangerous to ignore. And yet, in recent decades, American foreign policy experts and the presidents they serve have often discounted these simple rules about human action and reaction. From Afghanistan to Ukraine to the Red Sea, our foreign policy elites have failed to properly account for some of the tenets of basic human psychology, usually with poor or even disastrous results.

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To begin with, any bad actor or bully will see inaction, inadequate action, or attempts at negotiation or dialogue as a sign of weakness and will continue to behave aggressively.

Of course, the mother of all historical examples of this kind of dynamic involves Germany’s aggressive rise in the 1930s, when each territorial concession made to Hitler by Britain, France and other countries simply prompted him to demand more territory until the situation exploded into World War II. But there are plenty of recent instances of this as well.

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Even with the retaliatory airstrikes in recent days against Iranian-backed militias in Iraq and Syria, they have accused the president and his advisers—correctly, in my view—of ignoring what might be called basic playground psychology. To begin with, any bad actor or bully will see inaction, inadequate action, or attempts at negotiation or dialogue as a sign of weakness and will continue to behave aggressively.

In the early spring of 1958 at St. Michael’s Episcopal School in Oak Forest, I had enough of the big class bully, Robert, who had made many in my 1st grade class miserable each day as he preyed on the weakest and small. On the playground that day Robert was tormenting a little girl. I walked over, stood squarely in front of him and hit him as hard as I could in the nose. Robert fell straight backwards flat on his back and didn’t move.  I could not believe my eyes; it was just like in the cowboy movies. He finally stood up, crying, nose bleeding and went off by himself. Robert never acted like a bully or said a threatening word to me or any classmate again. It was a great life lesson I haven’t always observed.

I wish all bullies and thugs in the world were so easy to reform, but is not to be. Nevertheless, they cannot be allowed an inch and have to push back steadily. Otherwise, a nation write its own death certificate.

and this,

But playground psychology encompasses more than just effectively deterring bullies. Another hard and fast rule that is often ignored by our policymakers is the notion that credibly deterring one bad actor in one place will make it easier to do so with others elsewhere. In other words, effective deterrence has a positive knock-on effect.

There are so many recent examples of problems stemming from the failure to recognize this simple rule that it’s hard to know where to begin. But let’s start by going back to Ukraine. It’s not difficult to make a connection between President Obama’s “red line” in Syria in 2013 and Putin’s decision to invade Ukraine less than a year later.


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  1. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    That video is one of my favorites, I’ve seen it a hundred times but I’ve never seen the movie! I’ve looked for it on Netflix but they mostly just have crap. I’m going to fine it somewhere one day. Oh and not sure how I missed the movie.

    Mornin’ Gang

  2. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    1 Super Dave

    You can rent Secondhand Lions on Amazon for 30 days at $3.79.

  3. Tedtam Avatar

    SHL is possibly one of the best movies ever made.

  4. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    This Monday I find myself in an unusual position, no – not the Lotus position; I have no honey in stock, I have nothing fermenting, and I have no empty 1 gallon glass jugs available.  My last run was yesterday and I don’t know when I will re-engage.

    Headcrusher is progressing very well, tomorrow marks 2 weeks since his surgery and he is moving about, walking, using the wobble board, and best part of all – his is almost straight again.  Before surgery, he looked like Quasi Modo.

  5. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Texpat @ 6:55 AM, thanks, my wife has an Amazon account. Oh and there is supposed to be a lot of freebees on there but every time she want to watch something it costs a few bucks.

  6. Tedtam Avatar

    I just checked Tubi on my phone, and it looks like SHL is available for free (with ads) on that app.

  7. Tedtam Avatar

    Before surgery, he looked like Quasi Modo.

    I earned the name “Duck Butt” from my coworkers before I began chiropractic treatments.

    I still remember my first x-rays with Dr. Bailey – my spine had a sideways V near the bottom (>), it was kinked so badly. Dr. B. gave me my first adjustment, handed me a cold pack, and told me I’d have 15 minutes of verticality before I’d start duck walking again. He was right. I saw him every day for a week, then twice a week for a few more weeks, then once a week for a few months, then once a month for a while….now it’s on an as-needed basis.

    He was spot on every time he told me how long I’d have to walk upright and how long it’d take to heal me up. That man is good at what he does.

  8. Tedtam Avatar

    Hubby is buying a new washing machine for me this morning.  I told him I had a lot of catching up, and since I’m not picky and don’t care for bells and whistles, I’d be just as happy with a basic model so go for it.  As long as it cleans clothes, I’m happy.

    I remember a conversation I had with NASA sis years ago, when we were discussing how we were going to do the decor in the Dome.  I was hard to work with, since I like a lot of styles and am not real picky on most things.  Trying to decide what to do was a challenge.  Hubby and has some of that, too.  She and I made a decision on something – paint color for a wall? – and I ran it by Hubby and he basically said “Whatever makes you happy, I’m good with”.  I still remember the look on NASA Sis’s face as she listened in on my speaker phone convo with Hubby.  “That’s it?!” she asked.  “[Current boyfriend] and I argued for hours over the color for window trim in one room!”

    I guess that’s why Hubby and I have lasted for so long.

  9. Dooood Avatar

    The laws of human nature are very much like the laws of physics: stubbornly intractable and dangerous to ignore.

    Karl Denninger has entered the chat.

  10. bsue54 Avatar

    SuperDave – the only place I saw Second Hand Lions for free is TUBI…

    Oh yeah – GOOD MORNING GANG…

  11. Tedtam Avatar

    Time for the C&C update:

    ECLIPSING ☙ Monday, February 5, 2024 ☙ C&C NEWS

    Good morning, C&C, and a Happy Monday to you! This morning’s roundup includes: frenzied speculation ensues over Tucker’s Moscow trip; DA Bragg’s two-tiered anti-cop justice system continues causing controversy and eclipsing actual justice; judge dismisses Alvin Bragg case against two fake vaxx card buyers; Paul Pelosi Jr. skates on more federal charges, since he’s assigned to the top deck of the justice system; Canada pulls the plug on assisted suicide expansion; and eyes on the upcoming solar eclipse, which promises to be a memorable one.

    NEWS:

    All kinds of kerfluffle over Tucker Carlson’s possible interview with Putin.  Tucker’s being coy about it, the media is going through all sorts of apoplexy (why aren’t they trying for such interview, eh?), and I’m sure Tucker is enjoying the pretzel twisting of the media class.

    RFK, Jr. tweeted out that it used to be that journalists – real journalists – would interview anyone, including those with which they didn’t agree.  Real journalists are hard to find these days.  Proverbial needle-haystack analogy.

    ***

    Soros-funded NYC District Attorney, Alvin Bragg, is taking some body blows for letting loose the illegals who attacked cops that went viral in the  media.  You know, the same ones who were flipping off the media and laughing as they were released without bail?

    In any case, the well-rounded, Soros-supported district attorney’s “no bail” policy will soon be put to the test when the indictments inevitably come through. Then we’ll all see whether the young men — who have no valid i.d. and are deliberately not tracked as “sanctuary policy” (so as not to put the criminals in any danger of ICE deportation) — we’ll see whether Alvin will be able to find any of them to re-arrest once he gets the indictments.

    Childers made the pictorial comparison to the water boarder in California being arrested vs. the image of the finger flipping illegal thug.

    But that wasn’t lost on a judge, who took Bragg to the figurative woodshed over his prosecution of folks who obtained fake vaxx cards so they could go to work.

    It was actually a good news story, since last week the judge body-slammed tubby DA Bragg by dismissing all charges against a pair of New Yorkers who bought fake vaccine cards during the pandemic. Bragg had charged them — and fourteen other people — with felony possession of a forged instrument. Bragg wanted years in jail.

    But in his written opinion last Tuesday, the judge dismissed all charges against the vaxx card buyers, and shoved it right back in Bragg’s fat face. According to the Post and the order, the judge found the charges constituted and injustice:

    Bragg’s office “routinely — nearly daily — move[s] to dismiss significantly more serious counts or entire indictments” to avoid harsher penalties for previously convicted felons or to avoid jeopardizing people’s immigration status, the judge wrote in an opinion issued Tuesday.
    …“The Court agrees with the arguments submitted by (defendants) J.O. and R.V. This Court believes that the public will be relieved to know that our judiciary carefully considers the arguments of the parties that come before the court and that the courts will dismiss charges when they constitute an injustice.”

    /snip

    The bottom line from this story is that the judge gave us another example of what I’ve been long claiming would eventually happen: judges aren’t dummies, and they are finally starting to catch on. They usually defer to government and big corporate lawyers far longer than they probably should, but after they realize they’ve been lied to, judges will start dropping the hammer.

    ’bout time.  I’m hoping this is the beginning of a trend.

  12. Tedtam Avatar

    And now from the “Four Legs Good, Two Legs BETTER” Division of the Govt-Media Conglomerate:

    In more appalling news from the two-tiered justice department, the UK Daily Mail ran an eye-watering story last week headlined,Nancy Pelosi’s son Paul Pelosi, Jr. dodges federal charges for the SEVENTH time after being linked to money laundering and mail fraud scheme involving San Fransisco flop house.

    Even more insulting than the fact Pelosi, 55, wasn’t charged, was that he had two co-conspirators in the same deal who were charged. Pelosi’s co-conspirators, apparently, do not enjoy first-tier treatment and became defendants, unlike Pelosi, whose real name was omitted from the government papers altogether and he was referred to in the papers by a polite acronymized alias to protect his privacy.

    Pelosi the Sequel was reported to have bribed permitting officials, and being partners with his co-conspirators who were charged with ripping off their investors in the six figure range. PtS was also sued by one of the victims, but the feds just kinda yawned and waved him off.  The investor, that is.

    The Daily Mail noted this is the seventh federal case linked to the junior Pelosi, with no charges ever filed against him in any of them. Maybe he’s got nine lives.

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    When the pigs learn to walk upright, that’s when everything goes to heck.

  13. Tedtam Avatar

    And a little good news from Canada – their physician assisted murder euthanasia program has hit a bit of a snag.  The MAiD program had been extended to allow folks with mental illnesses to choose death.

    We’re talking illnesses like depression.  Which is treatable.  The best treatment would be to get rid of Trudeau and socialism, but that’s just my suggestion.

    It seems not many doctors wanted to sign on to that program.  Gee, I wonder why?  Other than the “First, do no harm” issue, I can see a looming tidal wave of lawsuits.  “Uncle Joe just needed some therapy and medication, and you killed him?!”

    There is hope for Canada, after all.

  14. Tedtam Avatar

    Now, for the eclipse news:

    …, but soon the Moon will block out the Sun in a marvelous allegory for society’s eclipse of common sense.

    Don’t miss it. It will be twenty years until there’s another total solar eclipse like the one coming on April 8th, according to a Newsweek article yesterday headlinedLast total solar eclipse for decades expected to be even more jaw-dropping.

    April’s eclipse will be even more memorable and unique because it coincides with a solar maximum, which is also underway this year. I’m not sure exactly what will be different owing to the Sun’s extra-lively activity, but there you go.

  15. Tedtam Avatar

    Houston isn’t in the direct path of the eclipse.  The map shows it crossing Texas in a more central path, over Kerrville and south towards Corpus Christi.

  16. Tedtam Avatar

    Rep. Mike Collins on the proposed border bill: This bill is the worst screwing in the Senate since that Dem staffer filmed his porno on Klobuchar’s desk.

  17. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    Paint color choices were the subject of several long-winded arguments in this house.  We rarely ever argue, but start talking about paint and…

  18. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    Google will no longer be keeping a backup of the entire Internet. Google Search’s “cached” links have long been an alternative way to load a website that was down or had changed, but now the company is killing them off. Google “Search Liaison” Danny Sullivan confirmed the feature removal in an X post, saying the feature “was meant for helping people access pages when way back, you often couldn’t depend on a page loading. These days, things have greatly improved. So, it was decided to retire it.”

    The feature has been appearing and disappearing for some people since December, and currently, we don’t see any cache links in Google Search. For now, you can still build your own cache links even without the button, just by going to “https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:” plus a website URL, or by typing “cache:” plus a URL into Google Search. For now, the cached version of Ars Technica seems to still work. All of Google’s support pages about cached sites have been taken down.

    Well, the times they are a-changin’.

  19. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    This is important and under the radar.  I don’t know what the Murdochs are up to here, but this is pretty disturbing.

    COMMENT – This week, two days after this article was published, the Wall Street Journal fired 20 journalists and staff in Washington.  This includes shuttering the team covering U.S.-PRC news, investigative reporters who have published dozens of articles like the one above. 

    For the last few years, I’ve noticed a qualitative improvement in the reporting on U.S.-PRC issues, particularly around export controls, Intellectual Property theft, investment security risks, and the PRC’s malign influence in the United States.  This requires years of research and experience in a variety of fields (technology, finance, government regulatory frameworks), which can only be done by a well-resourced media outlet like the Journal. 

    The team at the Wall Street Journal, who was just unceremoniously fired on Thursday, led the way in this transformation.  Their exclusive reports routinely landed on the paper’s front page and forced officials in the U.S. Government, as well as corporate leaders, to pay far more attention to what Beijing was trying to accomplish and the methods they were using.

  20. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    Poor Joe keeps getting his ass kicked all over the world.  It’s been reported in several places Antony Blinken’s staff thugs have been down in El Salvador making all kinds of threats against President Bukele’s hugely popular administration.  Word has it the US State Dept. is doing everything it can to beat Bukele in the impending election

    Populism has gotten a bad rap in the mainstream media for a very long time. Leftists are absolutely terrified of the thought of regular folks having any kind of power and say in how they’re governed.

    See what happens when you stop teaching the truth about the American Revolutionary War in public schools?

    Those pesky populist leaders have been showing up around the world lately, usually after a country has had it with being run into the ground by leftist leaders. American media hacks become apoplectic whenever a populist candidate rises to power in another country. It gives the poor dears Trump flashbacks.

    When Giorgia Meloni became the first female prime minister of Italy in 2022, there was no celebration of the historic win in the American MSM. The commie journo class here was too overwrought because Meloni is far-right, heterosexual, and none of the things that they like their HISTORIC FIRST types to be.

    President Nayib Bukele is conservative, anti-crime and heterosexual too.  He also has a 90% approval rating and Biden is jealous.

     

  21. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    When those illegal alien invaders assaulted the cop in NYC, the correct thing to do after they were caught would be to immediately deport them, after taking fingerprints,  retinal scans (both eyes), and a DNA sample.  They should have also been sternly warned that if they are ever caught inside the USA again, confirmed using the above, they would be immediately executed.  Then carry out said execution once they inevitably return on live tv.

    These kinds of people only respond to pain and credible threat of hard prison time or death.

  22. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Let’s all dance!

  23. Dr phil Good-E=1984 Avatar
    Dr phil Good-E=1984

    Here’s a brief synopsis of the traitorous, so called border security bill, put forth by the Kentucky Swamp Turtle, tortoise hemoglobinless wing of the joined@thehip-Vampyre parties.

  24. Tedtam Avatar

    Getting back into my routine: treadmill, rosary prayed, rosary/chaplet made, shower – now on to some bookkeeping, since it’s been a few days since I’ve last been able to do any real work on the computer.

    I was going to study Latin last night, but even before dinner I was struggling to stay awake.  I  must’ve lost more sleep than I thought the night previous.  I sat there with my materials in front of me and almost cratered then and there.  I did make it into the bed before the crash and burn hit.

  25. Tedtam Avatar

    Lent is right around the corner, and I need to make a decision on what sacrifice I’m going to make.  I’ve become very fond of a kinda keto fake fudge that a friend told me about.

    Or – I may do some fasting.  I need to do it anyway, just because it’s a good thing to do.  I’ve gotten lazy about my food control.

    Or – maybe cut back on my radio news habits.  I’m a bit of a news radio junkie during the day.

    I have a few more days to make a decision.

  26. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    So NYC is giving $53 million in prepaid debit cards to the illegal aliens?!?! When will the insanity stop? ~SPITS~

     

  27. Tedtam Avatar

    When will the insanity stop? ~SPITS~

    When complete control has been achieved.  At that point, they don’t need to buy votes.

  28. Tedtam Avatar

    I just got a jury summons – February 28th.  I don’t foresee a problem with that date. I shall bring my Latin book with me.

    It’s my first afternoon docket.  I can’t remember if I’ve had an afternoon call ever before.

  29. Tedtam Avatar

    We folks in Houston just yawn: these are rainfalls for TWO days.  We get that much and more in half the time.

    Rainfall totals over the past two days in other areas of Los Angeles County skyrocketed as well. Here’s a look at the National Weather Service’s two-day rainfall totals as of 4 a.m. local time:

    • Bel Air: 9.25 inches
    • Downtown Los Angeles: 5.48 inches
    • Pasadena: 4.33 inches
    • Santa Monica Airport: 4.52 inches
    • Santa Barbara: 3.88 inches
    • Topanga: 9.94 inches
    • Ventura: 3.48 inches
  30. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Looks like I never logged in today. I got up, fed the cats, and went back to bed. I simply have no energy lately.

  31. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Legendary 9/11 firefighter Bob Beckwith who stood with President George W Bush at Ground Zero dies at 91.

    Bob Beckwith, the New York City firefighter who stood at President George W. Bush’s side at Ground Zero in the immediate aftermath of the 2001 terror attacks, has died at age 91.

    Former President Bush addressed Beckwith’s passing in a statement Monday.

    “Laura and I are saddened by the passing of Bob Beckwith. On September 11, 2001, Bob was happily retired after more than 30 years of service with the New York City Fire Department. When the terrorists attacked, Bob suited back up and, like so many brave first responders, raced toward the danger to save and search for others,” the former president said. “His courage represented the defiant, resilient spirit of New Yorkers and Americans after 9/11. I was proud to have Bob by my side at Ground Zero days later and privileged to stay in touch with this patriot over the years. Laura and I send our condolences to Barbara and the Beckwith family as they remember this decent, humble man.”

    R.I.P Bob Beckwith

     

  32. squawkbox Avatar
    squawkbox

    A map of the United States showing the path of totality and degrees of partiality during the solar eclipse on April 8, 2024. (Image credit: Larry Koehn/ShadowAndSubstance.com)

     

    You can watch the total solar eclipse live here on Space.com

  33. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I don’t know, man.

    Watching an eclipse on a screen – instead of being there – is about like trying to appreciate the magnificence of Victoria Falls in a video. It just ain’t the same.

    I have a different analogy, but it wouldn’t pass muster with Granny Hammie.

  34. squawkbox Avatar
    squawkbox

    From what i have read the full eclipse will only be seen in Arkansas.  I would like to see that but I ain’t driving up there without spending the night.  You can bet there ain’t no rooms available for a 100 miles around the center.

  35. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I don’t know if that includes Texarkana, but take it from me, there aren’t any cheap hotels there under any circumstances.

  36. squawkbox Avatar
    squawkbox

    Shoot we are gonna see a 90% eclipse.  I be happy

  37. squawkbox Avatar
    squawkbox

    Yeah hotel motels ain’t cheep

     

  38. Dr phil Good-E=1984 Avatar
    Dr phil Good-E=1984

    From what i have read the full eclipse will only be seen in Arkansas.  I would like to see that but I ain’t driving up there without spending the night.  You can bet there ain’t no rooms available for a 100 miles around the center.

    yup, squawka Bruddah.
    when I was in Fredericksburg this past December 2023 the lady working in the hotel told me all the hotels there were already completely booked for the big eclipse and dat be a tad more than a hunnert miles to Arkansas.

  39. Dr phil Good-E=1984 Avatar
    Dr phil Good-E=1984

    If you were on the fence about whether the joined@thehipparties senate republicant’s hate you and the country you should now have no doubt.

    They’ve removed all doubt with the border security bill they presented which is really the destroy U.S. sovereignty and country bill once and for all.

  40. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I got peeps in Fredericksburg, Martindale, and Kerrville.

    Maybe I’ll wonder up there for the eeee-kklips.

    I don’t know, I’ve seen my share of eclipses across six or seven decades.

     

  41. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Texpat

    I was looking at the cast list of Lonesome Dove.

    Way down at the bottom was Bud Shrake.

    He played a sodbuster murdered for no reason by that group of scum that Jake Spoon was stupid and weak enough to hang out with.

  42. bsue54 Avatar

    I still have vivid memories of my only encounter with an almost total eclipse. From the parking area at the Bandera River Ranch (time share resort – early on – office was in the original stone ranch house…) where someone had a welder’s mask we took turns looking thru – I think there were 6 or 8 of us on top of that little mesa… but even away from the mask, and not looking up at all, there was a decidedly different feeling to the air, the birds stopped chirping, and it got dark without being dark… And as long as I can remember that feeling, I won’t spend a lot of time or money to travel to where a zillion people are going to be making donkeys of themselves to see another.

  43. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Yep. Solar eclipses can get kinda spooky in the middle of the day.

  44. bsue54 Avatar

    #40 – that they do

  45. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    We occasionally sing this great Carter song at church.

    Unfortunately, our leader likes to cut out the first verse because he thinks it’s too sad. I think he is so wrong.

    The writer is telling the undertaker to please drive slow, because his momma is inside.

    My enduring memory of the day we funeralized Mom was when Texpat and I were standing alone outside the church, arm in arm at the curb, and the hearse drove away.

    It’s a mighty fine old song.

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