Tuesday Libel Open Comments

I fully support this. Media companies need to be more responsible.
Clarence Thomas wants to make it easier to sue media companies for libel

Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas signaled his willingness on Monday to undo a 1964 ruling that makes it difficult to sue media outlets for libel.

The conservative justice, who was one of five votes to overturn the landmark abortion ruling Roe v. Wade on Friday, issued a dissenting opinion after the high court refused to hear a case brought by a Christian group that sued the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Coral Ridge Ministries Media filed suit against the SPLC, a left-leaning watchdog, after it labeled the Christian organization a hate group.

The lawsuit sought to upend the precedent established by New York Times v. Sullivan, the 1964 court case which set a high bar for public officials to sue for defamation.

“I would grant certiorari in this case to revisit the ‘actual malice’ standard,” Thomas wrote in his dissent.

“This case is one of many showing how New York Times and its progeny have allowed media organizations and interest groups ‘to cast false aspersions on public figures with near impunity.’”

Thomas wrote: “SPLC’s ‘hate group’ designation lumped Coral Ridge’s Christian ministry with groups like the Ku Klux Klan and Neo-Nazis.”

“It placed Coral Ridge on an interactive, online ‘Hate Map’ and caused Coral Ridge concrete financial injury by excluding it from the AmazonSmile donation program.”

The justice continued: “Nonetheless, unable to satisfy the ‘almost impossible’ actual-malice standard this Court has imposed, Coral Ridge could not hold SPLC to account for what it maintains is a blatant falsehood.”

Another conservative justice, Neil Gorsuch, concurred with Thomas’ view that New York Times v. Sullivan should be revisited.

The Supreme Court decided Sullivan in 1964, after a federal district court in Alabama found that a civil rights organization’s ad in the New York Times had damaged the reputation of an Alabama sheriff who was identified by implication in the ad.

Sullivan established a higher standard for public officials and public figures to prove defamation of character.

They would have to prove actual malice on the part of the accused defamer, that the publication had acted with “reckless disregard for the truth.”


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mharper42
mharper42
June 29, 2022 12:53 pm

I made a quick run to the Food Town to get milk, and checked the cat food shelf while I was there. It was basically empty — not happy to see that. In fact the only thing in that section were a few of the Meow Mix pate cups — but none of Millie’s favorite flavor. I got 2 cups… Read more »

mharper42
mharper42
June 28, 2022 11:37 pm

My #71 — the race horse joke about Biden — got fact-checked about 4 hours after I posted it. They didn’t remove it, but did put it behind a false information sign…
 

Abuck Syxbits
Abuck Syxbits
June 28, 2022 11:06 pm

The World’s Problems are going have to be put on hold for awhile.

My TOK has been usurped by VBS.

How about that for acronyms?

 

 

Abuck Syxbits
Abuck Syxbits
June 28, 2022 11:01 pm

Almost forgot the Folk Song Groups. Peter Paul and Mary Momma’s and The Papa’s Bob Dylan We took our Daughter to see Peter Paul and Mary when they came to Town (Houston) around 1998. We walked in and were trying to find our seat and our Daughter says “There is just a bunch of Old People here”. There was laughter… Read more »

Shannon
Admin
June 28, 2022 10:08 pm

Well, well, Abuck. Those are certainly on my list.

Abuck Syxbits
Abuck Syxbits
June 28, 2022 9:56 pm

#75 Squawk Can you spare Abuck Elvis death has caused me so much trouble.  Course when you make Elvis jokes people get real upset.    A friend of mine came to me all upset the day Elvis died. Same thing happened to me that day. Eddie an older (45) Cabinetmaker in the shop came over to my bench crying and… Read more »

El Gordo
June 28, 2022 9:39 pm

Getting time to turn in out here.  For Brother Dave, just know that I’m one of those who would not be caught dead at the Ronalds.  I’ll look forward to the Joy date story. Pleasant day out here today following last night’s rain.  My yard is greening up again, and who knows, I may have to get the mower running… Read more »

mharper42
mharper42
June 28, 2022 9:15 pm

Glad to hear there is a plan for Tim to finally get some doctorizing!

 

bsue54
June 28, 2022 8:48 pm

#77 – Tedtam – thanx for sharing… GJT and Gail – prayers are with you both, as well as the surgeon.

Super Dave
June 28, 2022 8:29 pm

#77 Tedtam I just scrolled up, thanks for the info and GJT we’re praying for you. But I know that you’re tough and can pull through just fine.

Super Dave
June 28, 2022 8:26 pm

You people are a coupla regular Casanovas over there.

Yes but I doubt that he’ll catch a live possum and take it to Ruby (black lady) on the date,……Ask my wife about that, she had to shift the floor shifter while I held the possum behind the front seat and drove with my left hand. 😀

Bonecrusher
June 28, 2022 8:24 pm

Hang in there GJT. Kneemail up.

Super Dave
June 28, 2022 8:22 pm

Oh and El Gordo, way to go just don’t get the happy meal at Ronald’s place. BTW; If I have time tomorrow I’ll tell you a great story about an old NASA Puke that was never married and after his date with Joy, our division secretary we all knew why. 😀

wagonburner
Editor
June 28, 2022 8:21 pm

Have fun and don’t be like Abuck and take her to the Costco Food Court for dinner.

we’ve already agreed that it’s Whataburger for dinner

You people are a coupla regular Casanovas over there.

Super Dave
June 28, 2022 8:19 pm

Hi Gang! A busy day here that included chopping up a bunch of Bradford Pears, Privet Hedge and a few Sweetgums. I’ve been trying to clear up around my fence on the dirt road and under the big pecan tree next to it. My wife had been working on the back yard of the farm house so she helped. SO,… Read more »

squawkbox
Admin
June 28, 2022 8:02 pm

Time for a Cohiba.

squawkbox
Admin
June 28, 2022 7:59 pm

Can you spare Abuck Elvis death has caused me so much trouble.  Course when you make Elvis jokes people get real upset.    A friend of mine came to me all upset the day Elvis died.  WARNING—- I am not a fan of Elvis.  Anyway, i asked him what he was so upset about. Elvis died says he. You are… Read more »

Abuck Syxbits
Abuck Syxbits
June 28, 2022 7:54 pm

Gotta get back to my James Bond series on Amazon. I have finally reached an age were all movies are new to me. Just watched Gold Finger . The special affects are corny by today’s standards but still good entertainment.   ElGordo remember Whataburger got bought out by a NY Firm and they are not quite the same. Or at… Read more »

Abuck Syxbits
Abuck Syxbits
June 28, 2022 7:48 pm

Mharper your test came through here.

That horse got off easy we have to look at him everyday.

Abuck Syxbits
Abuck Syxbits
June 28, 2022 7:46 pm

Thanks gang. I will definitely tune in Saturday. I went to one of Ronny Renfro’s gatherings but never got to meet Paul in person. Some of his stories were just hilarious. In the 70s I worked for Zelko Brothers Cabinet and Fixture company off Westpark and Gessner. They had KQUE on all day. Never forget the day Elvis died. You… Read more »

mharper42
mharper42
June 28, 2022 7:45 pm

This is a test.  I saw this funny pic over yonder, but it quickly had disappeared. I already had the image in memory so was able to paste it on my page. The test is to see if it quickly disappears from my page, or FB shuts me down for a week, or whatever.

 

Shannon
Admin
June 28, 2022 7:38 pm

Abuck Owner Dan Patrick of KSEV brought on Paul Berlin to do a single show, so that Paul could go into the hall of fame as the only man to broadcast in seven (8?) decades. He had so much fun that Patrick gave him a two hour Saturday evening gig. Hub Hyundai sponsored him. I would catch him coming home… Read more »

Abuck Syxbits
Abuck Syxbits
June 28, 2022 7:36 pm

#66 Squawk

Thanks for the station info.I will definitely check it out.

Only trouble with Paul Berlin is I don’t think he ever played any Jethro Tull!

Lyrics don’t get any better than “Spitting out pieces of his lung”.

squawkbox
Admin
June 28, 2022 7:30 pm

#67 Abuck short

See my  66 and there are recordings of Berlins show on the site at the bottom of the page.

 

Abuck Syxbits
Abuck Syxbits
June 28, 2022 7:27 pm

#65 mharper I haven’t heard it recently, but I believe that KSEV 700 AM replays those old Paul Berlin shows, possibly on Saturday evenings. My attempts to find it online turned up this: Thanks for the link. I will check it out again. I think I listened to it 15 years ago and since Paul died it has be quiet.… Read more »

squawkbox
Admin
June 28, 2022 7:20 pm

When ya run out of cyber paper or even terlit paper get ya some silver paper.

I had a desk job once stackin paper

and then there is the Sunday Paper.

PAUL BERLIN 6-8 SATURDAY NIGHT 700 KSEV. and you can listen online.

mharper42
mharper42
June 28, 2022 7:14 pm

#63 Abuck I haven’t heard it recently, but I believe that KSEV 700 AM replays those old Paul Berlin shows, possibly on Saturday evenings. My attempts to find it online turned up this: https://tunein.com/radio/Paul-Berlin-p48991/ This show will be available on Sat, Jul 2 at 6PM. I haven’t looked for it ot listened to it in years, so I’m not sure… Read more »

El Gordo
June 28, 2022 7:00 pm

#60 – She’s a native Texican currently expatriated to Philadelphia, so we’ve already agreed that it’s Whataburger for dinner. Whataburger was also BFF’s favorite restaurant according to the security question on her credit card when we were trying to get that straightened out and shut down. So it’s a nice memorial choice.

Abuck Syxbits
Abuck Syxbits
June 28, 2022 6:05 pm

#62 Katfish Bleach Blonde Bottle Blues Good stuff, that is why I like this Blog. It expands my horizon. Dr Phil Good does his part too. In the 70s and 80s I used to listen to Paul Berlin on KQUE and then KBME. He had an eclectic mix going all the way back to Mini The Moocher to Dean Martin… Read more »

Katfish
June 28, 2022 5:48 pm

#57 – Thankfully there ARE some incredible current offerings that remind me that music AINT dead – just being well re-invented.

Check out Rebecca & Megan Lovell aka Larkin Poe

These Sisters cover damn near ANYTHING and they KILL it in live shows also.

They also write and produce their own stuff!

here’s a taste

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy0RGsd2-JA

Bonecrusher
June 28, 2022 5:38 pm

#59 $1.75: One Bonecrusher’s Realities of Life states: If there is no negative consequence for bad behavior, said bad behavior will continue and will bring it’s less desirable friends. Isn’t is interesting that they actually impeached Trump for a supposed off color phone call (never any proof offered) to the Ukes, yet blatant, transparent, lies under oath to Congress has… Read more »

Abuck Syxbits
Abuck Syxbits
June 28, 2022 5:28 pm

#30 ElGordo

Now I stepped out on a limb and asked her for a movie date while she is in town, and she accepted – woo hoo

Have fun and don’t be like Abuck and take her to the Costco Food Court for dinner.

Abuck Syxbits
Abuck Syxbits
June 28, 2022 5:23 pm

#48 Bonecrusher

From the many volumes of “outrageous lying BULL$#!t” we have this gem

Tedhams OC today covered Libel and bringing back consequences for engaging in Libel.

The same should apply to Lying especially under oath.

Right now there are no consequences.

El Gordo
June 28, 2022 5:18 pm

I don’t use a clock much any more.  I go to bed around 10 and get up a little before sunrise, except for old man breaks in the middle of the night.  I really don’t have to be anywhere at any specific time usually, so no need for a clock.  I do like the rocking horse clock though, but probably… Read more »

Abuck Syxbits
Abuck Syxbits
June 28, 2022 5:16 pm

#34 Shannon/Squawk/Katfish To me she transferred her maniacal intolerance for singers who do not enunciate clearly, particularly on the final consonant of the final word of a phrase. Contempory Music,News,Movies I doubt will be referenced 50 years from now. Clear enunciation is lacking in all of the above. Shannon linked the song Summer Time from the Opera Porgy and Bess.… Read more »

wagonburner
Editor
June 28, 2022 3:34 pm

I choose soft melodies to wake up. Gone are the days of the bedside alarm clock that goes BEEP-BEEP-BEEP-BEEP

Don’t tell Dr. phil good, but I use a duck quack.

Bonecrusher
June 28, 2022 3:25 pm

We had some movers in the office today to move and store some stuff. One of the guys had his pants below his butt. I told him he needs to quit taking those noassatal tablets. His boss laughed.

bsue54
June 28, 2022 3:23 pm

#52 – I just checked her FB page, and she said that she’s still waiting – the docs are supposed to be here between 9am and 2pm… and sometime after 15:00,  the nurse called but there was still no callback, no show, no nothing… and a friend of her’s responded “Lord, please be with the nursing staff because You may… Read more »

Bonecrusher
June 28, 2022 3:23 pm
mharper42
mharper42
June 28, 2022 3:00 pm

Well, we should be hearing from Gail as to what Tim’s docs say is the plan…

El Gordo
June 28, 2022 2:59 pm

Had to go to Tractor Supply and get more black oil sunflower seeds for the birds.  Also thinking of a more powerful air rifle to take a few more of those white wings out for varmit happy meals.  Of course, if I can’t hit them in the first place, it really doesn’t matter how fast the pellet is flying.

Bonecrusher
June 28, 2022 2:29 pm

From the many volumes of “outrageous lying BULL$#!t” we have this gem: HEADLINE: White House Rejects Blame For Deadly Migrant Smuggling Event In Texas, Says Border Is ‘Closed’ There are many things I might say right now, but in an effort to avoid the Angry Blog Monkey, I shall decline to plumb the depths of my insult and outrage at… Read more »

Shannon
Admin
June 28, 2022 2:16 pm

Junior has been waiting on that tomato, too.

El Gordo
June 28, 2022 2:04 pm

I wrapped up a little nap and feel better now.  Got a little cloud hanging around to the north, but looks like as usual it will skirt around us.  It’s still pleasant outside temperature wise, so we’ve got that going for us.  Did not locate any ant beds popping up this morning, but I’ll check again as they may not… Read more »

Katfish
June 28, 2022 1:09 pm

And as for the Johnson Brothers kibbitzing ’till all wee hours……

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTRyv6a5SkU&list=RDMM&start_radio=1