Thursday’s Masculine Open Thread

IN DEFENCE OF MEN

The caustic, insightful commentator, Brendan O’Neill, has written an essay for the British opinion site, Spiked, about the cultural assault on men and masculinity.  He tees off his piece as a review of a book titled How Not to be a Boy by comic writer, Robert Webb.  It’s a good place to start his counter attack on the therapeutic castrati of the West.  O’Neill’s hostility to religion is often irritating, but he is a talented, brilliant writer.

And we have Robert Webb’s How Not to be a Boy. The title itself drips with this arrogance of extrapolation. Webb, a comic writer, best known as one of the stars of Peep Show alongside David Mitchell, thinks his childhood experiences have endowed him with a special insight into the predicament of men, the toxic nature of masculinity, and the necessity for 50 per cent of the population to change their ways if they want to survive. He really says this. His aim with this memoir is no less than to ‘extend that awareness [he means the gender-awareness that he has already achieved] to the half of the population who might still be under the impression that gender conditioning didn’t happen to them because they have a Y chromosome’. It’s almost religious. The Confessions of Robert Webb. I mean, I think my life has been pretty interesting, and I have certainly learned a lot from it, but turning it into a moral guide for everyone else? The very thought makes me wince. I’m no Augustine. And neither is Webb.

and this,

And such a longing is, too often these days, written off as ‘toxic masculinity’. At root, today’s attack on men is really an attack on the aspiration to self-governance, which is an aspiration shared by individuals of every gender, race and class. The cult of fragility and self-abasement might be attractive and even socially beneficial to a small strata of the literary middle classes, like Webb, but it is generally viewed as repulsive by the population at large. It might be useful to the new elite to advertise their wounds and weakness — it wins them media praise and book deals, after all — but such indulgent victimology has no positive role to play in society at large. And so people resist it, whether by being men or by being strong women — that is, by being individuals who, through ‘the operations of intelligence and will’, might command their lives and impact on their communities.

Let us stand up, then, for men. Even for masculinity. And for women who aspire to be as autonomous as men have traditionally been. For these people, the majority, do not have the luxury of wallowing in weakness. I have always had a soft spot for Camille Paglia’s observation in a Playboy article in 1995: ‘The women’s movement is rooted in the belief that we don’t need men. All it will take is one natural disaster to prove how wrong that is. Then, the only thing holding this culture together will be masculine men of the working class.’ The new middle-class clerisy, whose number includes Webb, would do well to remember this: your literary luxury to demean the virtues of masculinity is predicated on the fact that you live in a society in which masculine men, particularly working-class ones, will defend your life and your family in the face of a disaster that will hopefully never come. You are free to insult these people precisely because these people have developed the ‘masculine’ strength to defend the society you live in.

You owe it to yourself to RTWDT.


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74 responses to “Thursday’s Masculine Open Thread”

  1. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    What a neat picture.
    Mornin’ Gang

  2. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Oh and what he said; RTWDT!!
    Another great find, Texpat.
    The neatest thing that I’ve found lately was the Mc Donald’s Monopoly Game fraud, but I didn’t get around to posting it but I think Shannon posted it?

  3. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Over yonder, Southern Tragedy posted a cartoon about the “Space Bar” and I thought about the old Outpost Tavern on Egret Bay, didn’t y’all have a LST Brew-Ha-Ha there once? I had to work that night and couldn’t make it, the only time one was held within a reasonable driving distance of me.

  4. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    This just dropped into my mailbox; Napolitano Bombshell: Manafort Exonerated Of Same Charges Eight Years Ago!
    It is supposedly from the Tea Party, but since the page is so busy with ads and crap, I didn’t post it, anyone know if it’s true? I wouldn’t be surprised about anything at this point.

  5. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Well, it’s 7:27 and ole Dave has already kilt the blog, work starts in 3 minutes, later.

  6. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    Now this really is funny.

    One Amazon Alexa user, attempting to discover what Amazon Alexa truly thinks of current major political pundits and news anchors, recited a list of names which elicited non-responses until one name was mentioned: Daily Wire Editor-in-Chief Ben Shapiro. Shapiro’s name triggered Alexa to respond, “Ben Shapiro is one of my favorite conservative pundits.”

    The exchange went like this:

    User: Alexa, do you like President Donald Trump?

    Alexa: Sorry, I can’t find the answer to the question I heard.

    User: Alexa, do you like Sean Hannity?

    Alexa: I don’t have an opinion on that.

    User: Alexa, do you like Rachel Maddow?

    Alexa: I don’t have an opinion on that.

    User: Alexa, do you like Jake Tapper?

    Alexa: I don’t have an opinion on that.

    User: Alexa, do you like Ben Shapiro?

    Alexa: Yes, Ben Shapiro is one of my favorite conservative pundits.

    User: Ah, really mine, too!

  7. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    Post-natal abortion.

    Three minors have been euthanised in Belgium since euthanasia for children was legalised in 2014. According to the latest report from the government agency (PDF in French) which tracks euthanasia deaths, the children were 9, 11 and 17 years old. Two died in 2016 and 1 last year.

    Under the existing law, their request for death has to be voluntary and well-considered and the patient must be suffering unbearably, with no prospect of improvement.

    “There is no age for suffering,” said Professor Wim Distelmans, chairman of the Federal Commission for Euthanasia Control and Evaluation. “Fortunately, euthanasia among young people remains very exceptional. Even if it were only one, the law would have been very useful. “

  8. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #5 SD: What ever happened to the concept of double jeopardy? If he was already federally tried on tax charges for those years, how can he be tried again in federal court?

  9. Hamous Avatar

    What ever happened to the concept of double jeopardy?

    He was never tried. He was investigated and exonerated.

  10. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    A recent survey by the Freedom Forum Institute (FFI) found that while a vast majority of Americans claim to support First Amendment rights, many cannot define what those rights are.

    According to FFI’s annual “State of the First Amendment” survey, which polled 1,009 American adults, 74 percent of respondents disagreed with the statement that the First Amendment “goes too far” in the rights it guarantees to U.S. citizens, yet 40 percent could not correctly identify a single one of those rights.

    Similarly, 36 percent of respondents could list just one of the freedoms protected by the amendment, while just one respondent could list all five.

    According to the report, 56 percent of respondents recalled that the First Amendment guarantees freedom of speech, 15 percent mentioned freedom of religion, 13 percent remembered freedom of the press, 12 percent noted the right to assembly, and just 2 percent cited the right to petition.

    This is scary as hell.

  11. Sarge Avatar

    A solution has been found to changing the name of the capital city. Just name it after another famous Texan.

  12. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    How many times does this exact same process have to be repeated before it is considered a very bad idea by the masses?

    HEADLINE: South Africa facing ‘mass STARVATION and RIOTS’ after white people’s land seized

    It wasn’t that long ago that Rhodesia was the breadbasket of Africa; then the successfully run, white owned farms were seized by the commie bastige thug, Robert Mugabe, and now they can’t even feed themselves and the inflation rate of their near-worthless currency is second only to that of Venezuela. South Africa is following the exact same pattern and they will reap the same punishment. I wonder what kind of hold the DeBeers family has on the diamonds and gold mines?

  13. Hamous Avatar

    A solution has been found to changing the name of the capital city. Just name it after another famous Texan.

    There is precedent. HISD did that with one of their middle schools last year. They renamed Lanier Middle School (named after a poet who wore a confederate uniform) to Lanier Middle School (named after the turkey-necked former mayor).

  14. Sarge Avatar

    The question remains. Was she a Texan?

    The answer could solve another problem before it rears its ugly head.

  15. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Just imagine the outrage and LSM pearl clutching if the perp in this case was a white Jewish heterosexual male and his target was a muzzy. . . . .

    HEADLINE: Lawyers Want Removal of Stanford Resident Assistant Who Threatened Violence On Jews

    Read the link, language warning, typical anti-Jew, anti-Zionist hate-filled vomit from a rabid, insane muzzy.

  16. El Gordo Avatar

    One of those people in the photo looks like some guy from San Saba.

  17. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    18 EG

    He still has his ranch there, doesn’t he ?

  18. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    This is just incredible. You’ve got to see the tweets on Twitter from this woman.

    Garbage Human
    @GarbageHuman_

    Meet the newest member of the New York Times editorial board.

    I’d say that these tweets were part of her resumè when she applied for the job.

    1:48 AM – Aug 2, 2018
    9,157
    7,324 people are talking about this

  19. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    This is good.

    Thomas Wictor
    @ThomasWictor
    Replying to @ThomasWictor

    (8) If you were a member of the Ku Klux Klan–one of the 3000–and you wanted to create a devastatingly cruel racist parody, how would it be different from the real Sarah Jeong?

    3:58 AM – Aug 2, 2018
    427
    144 people are talking about this

  20. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    DARREN, CALLING DARREN! CHECK YOUR PHONE!

    I need a ride.

  21. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #20 TP: This hire is actually a great thing; it rips the mask off for everyone to see just how vile the management/ownership of the NYT really is. Perhaps this will doom them to obscurity.
    There is about 20-30% of the population that will not see the racism demonstrated and those can never be reached; the rest of the population, if they ever see it, will be appalled.

  22. phil Avatar
    phil

    Change the name of Austin to GigemPutin Texas.

    #putinDIDit
    #pUTINdIDiT
    #PuTinDidIT

  23. Katfish Avatar

    **Hat tip** Ace of Spades HQ

    “Today’s ruling … is a major step towards ending forfeiture not only across New Mexico, but throughout the United States,” he said.

    Federal Judge Declares Albuquerque’s Vehicle Seizure Program Unconstitutional

  24. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #27
    Looks like a giant chrysalis with something big hatching out in it!

  25. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #26

    Lol, that’s funny. I did not know some union members were turning enough union bosses had to take note. Teachers unions are lost forever, hopefully we see the battle between them and blue collar members. Pass the popcorn!

  26. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    My sister only works at a school, not a teacher and they got to her. My BIL, her husband, doesn’t discuss these matters with her, a lost cause.

  27. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    I’m covered on this.

    Not drinking in middle age can increase the risk of dementia as much as drinking too much, according to a report.

    The study tracked the drinking habits of 9,000 London civil servants between the ages of 35 and 55 from 1985 to 1993.

    They were then monitored for, on average, another 23 years. In total there were 397 cases of dementia identified through hospital, mental health services and mortality records.

    Published in the British Medical Journal (BMJ) the data showed abstinence in midlife was associated with a 45% higher risk of dementia compared with people who consumed between one and 14 units of alcohol per week.

  28. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    I thought I was good, figuring “units” was being used in the generic sense. But no, it’s definitive. :frown:

  29. El Gordo Avatar

    Project Veritas just released this. Interesting. College football for me was exceptionally hard work, but never torture.
    https://www.projectveritas.com/2018/08/02/an-unfair-game-urban-meyer-a-history-of-abuse/

  30. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    I’ll just have to hope that I am an outlier on that dementia curve. I lost my taste for alcohol decades ago, and I won’t start drinking again just on the off-chance that it might keep my brain cranking.

  31. El Gordo Avatar

    I’m with mh on this one. I did notice though that the study was conducted on civil servants, so there has to be an insanity factor built in to correct for this and make it applicable to normal people. I’m sure there are other flaws in the study too, but I didn’t read it.

  32. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Chilling article in American Thinker. I think this is true and accurate, but this is a clearer statement of the situation than I’ve been hearing or reading. I prolly listen to too much mild-mannered Michael Medved, whose radio show happens to be on right around my usual nap time.
    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/08/this_isnt_culture_war_its_worse.html

  33. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    You get the idea that she doesn’t know the first thing about the reality of socialism. If she did, it would wipe that happy smile off her face

    Oh and one comment said “I don’t think they really want a job guarantee, just a salary guarantee..”

  34. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    NOT fake news. But very, very odd. 😀

  35. Katfish Avatar

    #39 – NOT fake?

    from FACESPACE / MyBook????

    Balderdash!

  36. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #41
    I vetted it from other sources before I posted it here. SpyBook had the best pic and caption of it.
    Oh and 42.
    Ptoooiiieee

  37. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Headline on Drudge
    https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/sex-crimes/4-dentists-accused-of-raping-woman-at-las-vegas-strip-hotel/

    I knew they weren’t going to be normal Americans. Thought they might be Latinos. But Latino DENTISTS would qualify as normal men.

    From their names, they seem to be muslims.

  38. Hamous Avatar

    Buzzkill El Gordo and mharper tryna rain on my slightly inebriated parade.

  39. Hamous Avatar

    Always go to Roadside America for non fake stories

    https://www.roadsideamerica.com/tip/30684

  40. El Gordo Avatar

    This one is not far from me.
    https://www.roadsideamerica.com/search/tip

    Well, my download doesn’t want to cooperate, but it’s loch ness in Lampasas. Try here.
    https://www.roadsideamerica.com/tip/37216

  41. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    40 Shannon

    “He may testify in this case, your honor, he may not,” Mr. Asonye answered.

    This revelation reportedly set off a stampede of reporters out of the courtroom to report the stunning news.

    “That’s news to me and about 25 others who scurried out of here like rats on a sinking ship,” Judge Ellis told Asonye.

    The prosecutor told the judge that the evidence presented would “determine which witnesses testify,” prompting a sharp rebuke from the judge.

    “You know who you are going to call,” he said. “If you are going to call Mr. Gates, this is a waste of time.”

    Wow. Just wow.

  42. phil Avatar
    phil

    Using my Dr McCoy voice.

    Da#m it Jim what the hell’s a matter with you?!

    CemenNN and you are the enemy of the people when you pump out Newspeak propaganda 24.7.365.

    #putinDIDit
    #pUTINdIDiT
    #PuTinDidIT

  43. El Gordo Avatar

    The President is holding another rally in Pennsylvania shortly. Then another one in Delftware this weekend. I’m beginning to think he’s just doing these things to piss off CNN. OK, gonna go watch.

  44. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Any news site, cable or print would do well putting a little blurb out each day or frequently on the benefits of alcohol, coffee…shoot throw in donuts. They’d be the most trusted news source out there! Besides Roadside America of course.

  45. phil Avatar
    phil

    This is good.

    Thomas Wictor
    @ThomasWictor
    Replying to @ThomasWictor

    (8) If you were a member of the Ku Klux Klan–one of the 3000–and you wanted to create a devastatingly cruel racist parody, how would it be different from the real Sarah Jeong?

    Sarah’s hiring at the NYSlimes will soon be followed by a stellar CemenNN roundtable of racist pundits discussing her soon to be released biography, Mein Twat, in which she and her esteemed panel address “The Caucasian Question.”

    #putinDIDit
    #pUTINdIDiT
    #PuTinDidIT

  46. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Watching the President, he makes a good point – chain migration, everyone in the chain has a chain. *Not what he said but that was the point. 😀

  47. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #49 Katfish, those folks in Oklahoma just don’t get out much, being that I’m from Alabama, I can relate. 😀

  48. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Of course, y’all all know my favorite; the Boll Weevil Monument, in Enterprise Alabama.

  49. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    My #57, Oops, my favorite really is the Coon Dog Graveyard in Cherokee, Alabama.
    I’m a little surprised that this site has so many of the obscure sites across America.

  50. Hamous Avatar

    And no trip to Kissimmee would be complete without a visit to the Monument of States. That’s where we took Aunt Pearl when she came down from Moultrie.

  51. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    My #58, you don’t suppose that they have the Bird Dog Field Trails in Union Springs, do you? Yup, yup they do.

  52. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    60 Hamous

    I never realized how weird Kissimmee is, but maybe I should have suspected after all these years.

    (<;

  53. Hamous Avatar

    #61 – I discovered that the search results don’t show up in the link. For instance, I was able to find a photo of a Coca Cola barn sign from Grandpappy’s home town of Burnt Corn, Alabama, but it looks like it’s just a picture submitted by a visitor to the site and not an “official” roadside attraction.

  54. Hamous Avatar

    I never realized how weird Kissimmee is, but maybe I should have suspected after all these years.

    Probably comes from all the quinine we had to take to keep from dying of malaria.

  55. Hamous Avatar

    Florida tourism before Disney: Weeki Wachee Springs

    “Sometimes I swim three shows a day [each 30 minutes long] and come home exhausted,” Charlene told us. “But it’s still the best job in the world and I want to do it as long as I can.”

    Charlene’s long-term mermaid prospects are bright thanks to the state of Florida, which purchased Weeki Wachee in 2008 (All Weeki Wachee mermaids are now state employees). A similar fate befell Weeki Wachee’s main competitor, Aquarena Springs, in Texas in 1996 — except that the state turned the park into a nature preserve and kicked out the mermaids. The Sunshine State was smarter; it turned Weeki Wachee into a nature preserve and kept the mermaids, giving them a kind of Protected Species status as an icon of Old Florida tourism. As a result, Weeki Wachee has become free to freeze itself in history, offering visitors a glimpse of what roadside entertainment was like when the President was Eisenhower.

  56. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    I’ve failed to mention my hardworking sweetheart made fourth in her company’s sales and volume for the Houston and surrounding areas in Q2. Very proud of her, though last year felt slow, it ended up pretty descent, the year before was rough. She didn’t get down, held her head up and is doing great.

  57. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    I tried to tell her she was actually third since 2nd and 3rd were tied but she said it didn’t work that way.

  58. Hamous Avatar

    Congrats! I don’t think I could work in real estate.

  59. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    67 GJT

    What with your wife being a real estate tycoon, all this talk about you going to work in the equipment business everyday will soon be exposed as the ruse it is.

    We’ve known for a while you’re lying around the house eating Blue Bell and drinking beer all day.

  60. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Beer floats!!

  61. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Thank you guys, she deserves it. It is her calling, we wish she would have found it in the earlier years when commuting downtown then the Galleria area working for smugass lawyers.

  62. phil Avatar
    phil

    I’ve failed to mention my hardworking sweetheart made fourth in her company’s sales and volume for the Houston and surrounding areas in Q2.

    #putinDIDit
    #pUTINdIDiT
    #PuTinDidIT

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