Wednesday Open Comments

Popular Mechanics has published a good primer on the fundamentals of the Defense Distributed case at the Department of Justice and the Department of State.

A legal agreement between the U.S. government and a gun rights organization is setting the stage for the latest skirmish in the wars over gun rights and gun control. The agreement allows the group Defense Distributed to host a collection of files online that can be downloaded and, with the help of a 3D printer, can print the necessary parts to build working firearms.

Numerous states are now rushing to ban their residents from downloading the files. Even the President of the United States weighed in. But the truth here is a little murkier than the headlines.

What a Gun Is

Here’s the first thing you need to know: These files are the instructions sets for 3D printing items that are legally considered firearms. But in reality, what they add up to falls far short of an actual, workable gun.

and this,

The First Amendment vs. the Second

The U.S. government recognizes the right of citizens to build their own firearms, and all of these parts are readily available in gun shops or online, as they always have been. So all of this is perfectly legal. Where Defense Distributed and the government clashed is over the ability of people in foreign countries to download the files.

For example, the government’s International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR) statute prohibits the transfer of weapons technology abroad without express permission. Hosting the files online allows anyone around the world to download them—a no-no under ITAR.

The Truth About Guns site has a column up explaining the legal and political obstacles overcome and those still to be faced.

According to the press release from the Second Amendment Foundation, the “government expressly acknowledges that non-automatic firearms up to .50-caliber – including modern semi-auto sporting rifles such as the popular AR-15 and similar firearms – are not inherently military.”

This sounds great, but the devil is in the details of the new rule.

First, this settlement agreement is not the same as the final regulation. The settlement may be helpful in another, future lawsuit, but this settlement cannot bind the outcome of the final regulation. Furthermore, the final regulation may not even mention the settlement’s definition of “Military Equipment.” It is important that the State Department cement this distinction in a binding government document, like the pending new rule.

Second, the State Department only promised a process to address the regulation. That process may be favorable to gun owners or it may be so narrow as to barely affect our purchase and ownership of firearms and the designs to make them.

The State Department will first publish a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) that will detail the potential new regulation exempting certain firearm designs intended for sharing. The NPRM will also detail the time period for the public to submit comments on the proposal in support or opposition.

This is a critical phase of the notice-and-comment process. After the comment period, the State Department may receive so much negative feedback on its proposal that it determines it should craft something much more restrictive of gun rights.


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  1. Hamous Avatar

    Don’t know what happened. Something on Bluehost’s end. I poked around a little last night and found nothing wrong on my end so I went to bed.

    FYI: Coming in I-10 westbound in the afternoon from Beaumont to Houston is all 290’d up. There are a tremendous amount of trucks on the roads these days and truckers have become more inconsiderate than the regular no-driving riff-raff you have to endure. 80 miles of rolling roadblocks by the bastards had me wishing for a roof-mounted rocket launcher.

  2. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    It’s Wednesday!!
    Mornin’ Gang

  3. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    I wondered who tripped over the power cord last night, kept getting this;
    Bad Gateway 500 Internal Server Error.

  4. Hamous Avatar

    Cooked five pounds last night. I’ll cook the other five tonight.

  5. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    The O.C. thread article is interesting and the comments in the second link are pretty good. One thing they kind of went over, a lot of people like to build their own rifle. It used to be if someone made his own rifle it was usually a nice hunting rifle put together around the fine old Mauser Action, (often a military rifle action), but now everybody and his cousin are assembling AR style rifles. So, the Fed’s decided that the receiver, with it serial number, was the rifle, everything else was just parts for the assembly. My son-in-law and his best friend both built AR’s, one a Chevy and one a Lamborghini. Depending on the parts that you throw together, you can spend $500 to $5,000 building your rifle.

  6. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #5 Dayaam, what time do you get off work, I’ll be right over. 😀

  7. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    Headcase makes an appearance, sort of, and the power goes out. Now if low rents and the short dude with the hot wife shows up this thing may be out for days.

  8. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    I talked to daughter last night and she was on her way to Nashville to check out some of the sights. Too bad that see doesn’t have much time to spend there. I was thinking that I’ve never been to Nashville, been to Memphis and Chattanooga, just never made it to Nashville. The NRA had their convention there in 2005 and I thought about heading over to Alabama and driving up from there, but I didn’t get a Round Tuit.

  9. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    It seems like a huge waste of money and time to educate all these ambitious people and send most of them to law schools if when they get to the legislature, they can’t write cogent and coherent legislation.

    Senator Sylvia Garcia, author of this bill, has a law degree. So does the Attorney General Ken Paxton having obtained his JD from the University of Virginia. All this education is no obstacle to their campaign to save a very poorly conceived and written law. Remember also the state Senate and House are teeming with brilliant, razor sharp legal minds trained in the finest law schools in the nation and they voted this stupidity into law.

    Ruling on the “Revenge Porn” by the Texas Court of Appeals

    The problem in the law’s language “is best illustrated by way of the following hypothetical,” suggests the court:

    Adam and Barbara are in a committed relationship. One evening, in their home, during a moment of passion, Adam asks Barbara if he can take a nude photograph of her. Barbara consents, but before Adam takes the picture, she tells him that he must not show the photograph to anyone else. Adam promises that he will never show the picture to another living soul, and takes a photograph of Barbara in front of a plain, white background with her breasts exposed.

    A few months pass, and Adam and Barbara break up after Adam discovers that Barbara has had an affair. A few weeks later, Adam rediscovers the topless photo he took of Barbara. Feeling angry and betrayed, Adam emails the photo without comment to several of his friends, including Charlie. Charlie never had met Barbara and, therefore, does not recognize her. But he likes the photograph and forwards the email without comment to some of his friends, one of whom, unbeknownst to Charlie, is Barbara’s coworker, Donna. Donna recognizes Barbara and shows the picture to Barbara’s supervisor, who terminates Barbara’s employment.

    In this scenario, Adam can be charged under Section 21.16(b), but so can Charlie and Donna. Charlie has a First Amendment right to share a photograph. Charlie had no reason to know that the photograph was created under circumstances under which Barbara had a reasonable expectation that the photograph would remain private. Charlie was not aware of Barbara’s conditions posed to Adam immediately prior to the photograph’s creation, nor did he receive the photograph with any commentary from Adam that would make him aware of this privacy expectation on Barbara’s part. In fact, there is nothing to suggest that Charlie could not reasonably have believed that Adam found this picture on a public website or had been given permission by the depicted person to share the image with others. Further still, Charlie did not intend to harm the depicted person. Lastly, Charlie did not and could not identify the depicted person because he did not know Barbara.

  10. Tedtam Avatar

    Our visit with the aunt went well last night. She actually had planned to drive back last night, even though it would be a late arrival for her. She’s a night owl like me.

    We had a good visit. We took her to a Mexican restaurant we discovered via word of mouth from my neighbor recently. I tried the mixed grill sans carb-loaded sides. I got a pork chop, half chicken breast, and about 3 oz. of fajita steak with guacamole and pico de gallo. I’m not a big fan of pico because of the jalapenos, but I ate everything else.

    For once, I got my full protein macro count in and almost all my fat. I’ve been having a hard time getting to my max on those items, based on what the keto calculator gives me.

    Not one word about MIL’s belongings, etc. Whew!

  11. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    Maybe we should just shut down all the law schools. People are coming out dumber than when they went in. Just like all the college students in America.

    Remember the Drejka/McGlockton shooting in the Florida convenience store parking lot ? Remember what Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri told members of the media ?

    “We’re precluded from making an arrest in this type of a situation,” Gualtieri claimed at a press conference the next day. “Stand Your Ground allows for a subjective belief by the person that they are in harm’s way,” the sheriff said, and “we don’t get to substitute our judgment for Drejka’s judgment.”

    To the contrary, the law requires police and prosecutors to assess the judgment of someone who uses deadly force, which he is allowed to do only if he “reasonably believes” it is “necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm.” It is not enough to claim you shot someone because you believed he otherwise would have killed or maimed you; that belief has to be reasonable in the circumstances.

    The video shows McGlockton backing away when Drejka draws his gun. Even assuming that McGlockton was not done with Drejka after the shove, Gualtieri conceded that Drejka “probably could have” fended McGlockton off simply by brandishing the pistol. The implication is that Drejka did not reasonably believe shooting McGlockton was necessary, which means there was probable cause to arrest him.

    Gualtieri obscured that point by erroneously asserting that the Stand Your Ground law, which was enacted in 2005, established a “largely subjective standard” for the use of lethal force. The question, he said, is not “what I would do, what you would do, what the public would do, what someone else would do.” What really matters, he suggested, is “the person’s subjective determination of the circumstance they were in” and “the fear that they had.”

    and this,

    Several prominent Florida Republicans have criticized Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri’s misrepresentation of that state’s Stand Your Ground self-defense law in connection with the July 19 shooting of Markeis McGlockton. Three key legislators who had a hand in writing the law and the National Rifle Association lobbyist who helped get it passed told Politico that Gualtieri was simply wrong when he claimed the standard for using lethal force is “largely subjective.”

    Here’s the chaser…

    Gualtieri, who has a law degree from Stetson University and once served as his office’s general counsel, certainly should have a better understanding of what the law says.

  12. Hamous Avatar

    who has a law degree from Stetson University

    Crazy Baptists 😉

  13. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    12 cont’d.

    There is a lot public pressure on State Attorney Bernie McCabe, the chief prosecutor for the area, to charge Michael Drejka with murder. He should at least take it before a grand jury if he doesn’t have the guts to take the heat himself.

  14. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    12 cont’d. Part 2

    Texas has all kinds of orientation, required training and continuing education classes for judges, prosecutors, police chiefs, sheriffs, mayors, court clerks, tax assessors, city clerks, etc.

    Wouldn’t you think the state of Florida would have something for Sheriffs, especially regarding laws with possible deadly consequences like “Stand Your Ground” and self-defense ?

  15. Hamous Avatar

    12 & 14

    I believe I predicted the Left would use this case as an indictment of Florida’s stand-your-ground law. Looks like that is coming true.

  16. phil Avatar
    phil

    Don’t know what happened. Something on Bluehost’s end.

    Putin meddled in the haberdashery.

    #putinDIDit
    #pUTINdIDiT
    #PuTinDidIT

  17. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    16 Hamous

    The Left are always roaming around the law like filthy coyotes. The problem arises when a high profile Republican official like Bob Gualtieri opens his big mouth in public and starts rambling on about legal questions he knows nothing about.

    The media, being semi-literate and utterly ignorant, assume a sheriff with a law degree and bar license has at least a minimal understanding of the law so they repeat whatever he says as if it’s factual.

    Coyotes smell blood and come running.

  18. El Gordo Avatar

    I watched Trump’s rally in Tampa last evening, and it was pretty much the same as the rest. The crowds still lap it up though, and you can tell that he’s really in his element when he does these things. My take away line from the evening was a new one he’s come up with. Basically, he says that people are telling him that he’s not acting “Presidential.” After mimicking a boring typical do nothing, say nothing politician he says something like “It’s a hell of a lot easier to act Presidential than it is to do what I do.” I liked that one.

    Here’s another feel good story today:
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3675601/posts

  19. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    HEADLINE: Inmates Deliver Brutal Prison Justice to Jihadist Inmate Wanting To Murder Children

    I just love a story with a happy ending. In this case the jihadi scum survived – for now. He is serving 4 concurrent life sentences plus 4.5 years for something else. I wonder if he will survive the year. . . .

  20. El Gordo Avatar

    As to the law and related legal profession, first of all, never forget that the people who write this stuff are politicians. They know exactly what they are trying to accomplish, and every word in there is there for a reason. The primary reason is to obfuscate and confuse, thus allowing for selective prosecution and for chosen select individuals to be immune from prosecution. All that is by design to permit discrimination, with the power to discriminate being held by the party in power. Public opinion decides who is in power and who is not, which is why the Dems are trying so hard to change the demographics of America to suit their political ends.

    Same is true of college acceptance these days. Administrations claim to be judging their selections on “holistic” assessments, namely looking at the whole person, rather than just based on grades, test scores, and other objective measures. It’s just another way to discriminate since it’s all a judgment call on which reasonable people can disagree. When affirmative action is finally overturned, and it will be soon, the new measure will be something that cannot be measured.

    Again, Danger Will Robinson – don’t ever misunderestimate what politicians are up to. They may sound idiotic (and some actually are) but they all have hidden agendas that are nefarious. Not a darned one of them is trustworthy.

  21. Tedtam Avatar

    Dang! Didn’t know I was rich! I got this email with the subject “Your abandoned package for delivery”:

    Attention Dear Package Owner ,

    I have registered your ATM Master CARD of $4.5 Million USD with DHL EXPRESS Courier Company with registration code of ( Shipment Code AWB 33xzs)please
    Contact with your delivery information such as,

    Your Name:……….
    Your Address:…….
    Your Telephone Number:…..
    Your Age:………
    Your Country:………

    Name Of Director Dr. Henry Thomas
    E-mil:( [email protected] )
    Tel: +22968970154

    I have paid for the Delivery fee. The only fee you have to pay is their Security fee only. Please indicate the registration Code Number(awb-33xzs)
    to DHL when contacting them.

    Best Regards.
    Dr.HARRIES TONY,

    It’s been nice knowing y’all. I think I’m taking a permanent vacation.

  22. Tedtam Avatar

    Even richer than I thought! This Nigerian guy wants to help me out, too!

    Dear Beneficiary,

    Compliment of the day. My name is Dr. Joseph N. Okwu, Deputy Governor, CBN. I was appointed by the President Federal Republic of Nigeria 2 days ago, in conjunction with the Federal Executive Council (FEC), the Senate Committee on Foreign Debts Reconciliation and Implementation Panel on Contract/inheritance/compensation funds to complete all long over due unpaid Contract/inheritance/lottery fund within 48 hours.

    I wish to inform you that all matters relating to the release of this payment is now under my control and supervision. This development has become necessary due to the activities of unpatriotic government/CBN officials and impostors who keep on frustrating every effort to settle our clients by making requests for unauthorized fees and levies from them. The amount that has been approved for you at the moment is $8,600,000.00USD.

    We apologize for any delay you might have encountered in the past, your payment is now 100% Guaranteed. Kindly get back to me urgently with your particulars to enable me tell you what you need to do within 24hrs and your funds will be in your custody. I await your urgent reply to enable us proceed.

    Best Regards,
    Dr. Joseph .N. Okwu
    Deputy Governor, Financial System Stability,
    Central Bank of Nigeria.
    NB: KINDLY NOTE THAT SOME PEOPLE (FRAUDSTERS) HAVE STARTED MAKING FORGERY OF MY GOOD NAME

  23. Tedtam Avatar

    I should review my spam folder more often. A good laugh in the morning is a great way to start the day.

  24. phil Avatar
    phil

    Dang! Didn’t know I was rich! I got this email with the subject “Your abandoned package for delivery”:

    Putin meddles in email.–A phisher of men and women.

    #putinDIDit
    #pUTINdIDiT
    #PuTinDidIT

  25. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    I was surprised that I never got back onto The Couch last night. I was surprised that anyone thought I went to Tinseltown 290 because it was fancy. We went there because it is less than 3 miles from home. My review of EQ2 may be out sometime today. I was unaware that The Equalizer movies are based on a TV show from the 80’s. I was getting established in software development during the 80’s and had little time for TV. Hubs said he vaguely remembers watching some of it.

  26. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    O.M.G. My browser edge ads are chock full of bobcats, skid-steers, and big bright-colored earth-movers this morning.
    :mrgreen:

  27. El Gordo Avatar

    I’m happy to see that someone if finally getting the monetary rewards that the internet offers. The last time I got one of those letters I didn’t have enough money to respond, so I posted the letter on the bulletin board offering to share my new found wealth if someone else would simply be willing to handle the paperwork requirement, and pay me a small fee of course. Didn’t get any takers though. I tried selling used scratch off lotto tickets for half price, but didn’t get any takers there either. And Trump says the economy is good.

  28. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #28

    From reading the article Shannon posted a couple days ago regarding McDonalds’ Monopoly Game, appears you’d have more success getting a job guarding their winning game pieces.

  29. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    Ben Shapiro:

    On Tuesday morning, President Trump leaped into the issue of 3D gun printing, suggesting that the federal government ought to do something about it.

    As soon as President Trump recovers from his foot-in-mouth rectal/cranial inversion, I expect a full retraction of his statement.

  30. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    J Street is nothing but a Leftist lobbying cabal in Judaic drag.

    O’Rourke, a member of the House of Representatives since 2013, faces criticism for violating a pledge he made when first announcing his Senate bid to not accept contributions from any political action committee (PAC) or special interest group, The Daily Caller first reported.

    Financial disclosure forms filed with the Federal Elections Commission show O’Rourke’s campaign has accepted a total of $172,285 in bundled contributions from J Street PAC, a liberal advocacy group noted for its harsh criticism of Israel, this election cycle.

    J Street PAC did not contribute directly to O’Rourke’s campaign; rather, the group used its resources to collect contributions from “371 unique donors” on the candidate’s behalf, according to The Dallas Morning News.

  31. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Why don’t we see memes about Beto that are analogous to all the Fauxcahontas pokes at Warren? I googled, but they were all PRO BETO!

  32. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    As seen over yonder; It’s Word Wednesday! The word of the day is ANATIDAEPHOBIA.

    H/T the Squawkster.

  33. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Rush Limbaugh; It Doesn’t Feel Like 30 Years.

    ALLER: That’s absolutely right. Even when I… There have been times I haven’t been able to listen to you because of work schedules. When the opportunity came back to listen to you again, I always found you, as I used to say, right where I left you. You are that consistent.

    RUSH: Well, you are very perceptive. I think you typify, you exemplify the exact way I imagine everybody in this audience. I think everybody listening here is involved and intelligent and aware, and thinks and shares a similar value system or value base. That’s why it’s so meaningful. This is why I understand the bond that Trump’s supporters have with him, is because I have it, too, with all of you who listen to this program — and nobody’s been able to break the bond.
    ALLER: That’s absolutely right. Even when I… There have been times I haven’t been able to listen to you because of work schedules. When the opportunity came back to listen to you again, I always found you, as I used to say, right where I left you. You are that consistent.

    RUSH: Well, you are very perceptive. I think you typify, you exemplify the exact way I imagine everybody in this audience. I think everybody listening here is involved and intelligent and aware, and thinks and shares a similar value system or value base. That’s why it’s so meaningful. This is why I understand the bond that Trump’s supporters have with him, is because I have it, too, with all of you who listen to this program — and nobody’s been able to break the bond.

  34. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    HEADLINE: Some Ideas To Think About

    Dr. Walter E. Williams is always a treat to read.

  35. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Is there an echo in here?

  36. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    This is what it looks like to lose your brakes coming up on a tight turn from a long straightaway at 200 mph. He went over in the grass to slow it down but can’t steer in the grass.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zPddyh64CeU

  37. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Thanks to safety advances since Dale Earnhardt’s fatal crash, Bubba Wallace walked away.

  38. Hamous Avatar

    O.M.G. My browser edge ads are chock full of bobcats, skid-steers, and big bright-colored earth-movers this morning.

    No Bigfoot erotica?

  39. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    She don’t talk about that.

  40. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Animal rights versus Operator rights.

    https://youtu.be/1t3hYPDgES4

  41. El Gordo Avatar

    I’m interested in the Manafort trial since it is the first of the Mueller mess to actually set foot in a courtroom. I’m assuming that since it is a federal court, there is no TV and no cell phone messaging, live streaming, etc. The press is all over the outside of the courthouse showing the comings and goings of the defendant, the lawyers, etc., but very little is coming out about the witnesses, the lawyers’ arguments, the facts of the case, and so forth. I must surmise from the overall lack of information being put out that the case is not going well for Mueller. If the prosecutor was landing any blows, it would be blowing up all over the place. The liberal press does a good job of not reporting when it doesn’t suit their agenda. Manafort may be the most rotten SOB on the planet, but he has not been convicted of any crime and yet he rots away in solitary confinement until Mueller thinks he will break. This is third world dictator type stuff, not justice in America.

  42. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    The last time any news came out of that courtroom was when the judge told Mueller’s toadies that they’re a bunch of sorry SOBs out to get Trump.

    Then yesterday we hear that prosecutors are coaching their witnesses to not mention the word Trump during their testimony, presumably so as to not further piss off the judge.

    The jury just now has been seated so I anticipate news of further motions very soon.

  43. Hamous Avatar

    44

    Hot off the presses! Someone has snuck out an audio clip of the judge’s ruling.

  44. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    This executed doctor case is truly another compelling high profile Houston murder!

  45. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    A rare August reprieve, weather wise.

    If August in Houston was always this nice, the area would almost be habitable.

  46. Hamous Avatar

    Urban Meyer had been suspended for allegations that he knew about allegations that one of his assistants may have been abusing his wife. No evidence of abuse was ever presented in a court of law. No such charges were ever brought.

    We are reaping the poison fruits of toxic feminism.

  47. Hamous Avatar

    I was a Gator fan when Meyer coached at Florida. Am I guilty too?

  48. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    47 ELG

    Can’t stop laughing.

    Sorry I never saw the whole thing.

  49. Hamous Avatar

    One of my favorite movies.

  50. Hamous Avatar

    Tedtam will appreciate this. The remains of our Korean War soldiers were brought off the plane at Pearl Harbor to this.

  51. El Gordo Avatar

    Here’s the ceremony in Hawaii with VP Pence. Pretty moving, and another victory for President Trump which none of those losers is willing to admit.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zdcgpsp35ZA&feature=youtu.be

  52. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Johnny Football signed with the CFL Hamilton Tiger Cats to unite with June Jones. Some reason he got traded to Montreal. He was backup, but no more –

    The fans’ calls for Johnny Manziel were answered.
    One week after he heard chants of “Johnny, Johnny, Johnny” and “We want Johnny” in a loss that dropped the Montreal Alouettes to 1-5 on the season, head coach Mike Sherman confirmed that Manziel will start Friday against his former team, the Hamilton Tiger-Cats, at Percival Molson Memorial Stadium.

    Shouldn’t they have been chanting Zhahnny! Zhahnny! Zhahnny!?

  53. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Tedtam did it. Over yonder.

    #TTdidIt

    ^^^ phil

  54. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Mel Brooks

    The smartest, funniest man who ever lived.

  55. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    He should have his own wing at the Smithsonian.

  56. Hamous Avatar

    Did you know we have a major league rugby team and we’re helping them build a new stadium?

  57. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    I knew we had one and I assumed…

  58. Hamous Avatar

    I suppose $3.2 million is chump change in the grand scheme of things but seems like it could be done privately.

  59. phil Avatar
    phil

    Tedtam did it. Over yonder.

    #TTdidIt

    ^^^ phil

    Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery and

    #putinDIDit
    #pUTINdIDiT
    #PuTinDidIT

  60. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Tedtam did it. Over yonder.

    I always had my suspicions that Tedtam did it over yonder,

    Jus’ sayin’.

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