“Arizona” Over Syria Weekend Open Comments

Israeli Air Force F-15 on takeoff

Amos Harel and Aluf Benn:

This is the story of a single night more than a decade ago, and a daring, hair-raising operation executed by the Israeli air force, army and intelligence community that destroyed an atomic plant in northeastern Syria. Yet no less, it is also a story of a big intelligence failure – the worst since the Yom Kippur War, according to a number of top intelligence people – in which Israel somehow managed for years not to notice a reactor being built right under its nose, in a neighboring country on whose surveillance Israel was spending vast amounts of money.

The operation was the finest hour of a prime minister who just a year earlier had led Israel into a failed war in Lebanon and who less than two years later would be compelled to resign before going on to serve a prison term for crimes of corruption. And it was also the start of the intense hostility between that prime minister and his defense minister, which took root during that summer of 2007, and of the impassioned war over who among the top brass in the military organizations deserved the credit.

It is especially surprising that this is also the story of a secret that was maintained for a long time here in Israel despite the considerable personal interests of a number of those who are now involved in its publication. Only now, more than a decade later, has the military censor allowed the Israeli media to report the history of this affair – and even that, still with restrictions.

and this was a critical moment,

The next breakthrough, in fact the turning point of the whole affair, occurred in Vienna in early March 2007. Israel has never officially acknowledged or accepted responsibility for it, and the following is based on an investigative report published by American journalist David Makovsky in The New Yorker in 2012. According to the report, Ibrahim Othman, head of the Syrian Atomic Energy Commission, had come to Austria to participate in the deliberations of the International Atomic Energy Agency. A cell of Mossad agents from the Keshet unit broke into the apartment where Othman was staying and within less than an hour “vacuumed up” the information that was on the Syrian official’s personal computer, which had remained in the apartment while he was taking part in the conference.

Reactor Core of Syrian Plutonium Nuclear Plant – Image from Ibrahim Othman’s Laptop Computer

After mulling everything over, and at the advice of former Chief of Staff Amnon Lipkin-Shahak, Olmert decided to share the sensitive new information about Syria with the Americans. He hoped that perhaps the George W. Bush administration would take it upon itself to destroy the reactor. Defense Minister Amir Peretz briefed his American counterpart Robert Gates, who was in Israel on a routine visit. Gates was “pretty much in shock.” The prime minister’s two close advisers, Yoram Turbovich and Shalom Turgeman, flew to Washington to brief top administration people. In Washington the Israeli delegation met with Vice President Dick Cheney and top people in the CIA and the National Security Council.

the reaction was entirely predictable,

Gradually, it became clear that there were three competing approaches within the administration, and that the president was trying to choose among them. Cheney, as usual the rapacious hawk, wanted the United States to attack and destroy the reactor as a public and deterrent message, a warning against the development of additional secret nuclear programs in other countries. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was recommending a diplomatic move to thwart the reactor by means of applying pressure on Assad. Gates and some of Bush’s advisers believed that an attack should be left in Israel’s hands. They were concerned about the possibility of a blunder that could develop from mistaken intelligence information, as had happened to the Americans in the affair of the weapons of mass destruction (that were not found) on the eve of the Iraq War in 2003.

“Suddenly a moment comes when all the theoretical discussions become the here and now, and it could be that this will lead to a war,” she relates. “The odds were low but they did exist. There was unease because the home front was not aware of what might be waiting for it. And that is after the missiles we had absorbed in the Lebanon War and even before we had an interception system like Iron Dome. It occurred to me that we could wake up the next morning and the horizon would be full of [incoming] missiles. However, there were no doubts about the decision itself. We went through the whole process until the correct decision was made. I was very much in agreement with the decision to attack, even though it was with a heavy heart.”

RTWDT.

RELATED STORY:

A Washington-based think tank said Wednesday it was impossible to confirm a 2015 article by the German weekly Der Spiegel claiming that Syria was developing another nuclear reactor to replace the one Israel destroyed in 2007. However, it urged the international atomic watchdog to investigate the site in which Syria – possibly aided by Iran and North Korea – was allegedly trying to set up a new nuclear base to cover for the one Israel destroyed.

The results of the investigation by the Institute for Science and International Security were published hours after Israel took responsibility for the 2007 attack at Deir el-Zour in northeast Syria.

According to Der Spiegel, a new underground facility was launched in the center of a mountain into which a tunnel network had been dug. Located in a remote, rugged region near Qusayr in western Syria, the facility was said to be connected to a power plant and a water source for cooling.

For the record, the Institute for Science and International Security is a Left-leaning organization funded heavily by the leftist Ploughshares Fund.

 

 


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152 responses to ““Arizona” Over Syria Weekend Open Comments”

  1. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Aww man it’s Saturday and we got homework??

    j/k, good stuff Texpat, looking forward to digging in.

  2. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    It’s the weekend!
    Mornin’ gang

  3. Tedtam Avatar

    I’m about to head off to St.Luke’s to see Hubby. Hopefully, I will bringing him back with me later.

  4. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Thanks. Haaretz had the story behind a firewall initially and I would have never gone back.

  5. El Gordo Avatar

    Morning gang. Glad to hear that Hubby may be on the way home. I hope that his rehab goes well – no pain, no gain and all that. Guess I’ll be skipping the kid’s gun parade. I’m still reeling somewhat after watching our President get rolled by his own party yesterday, and frankly, the Dems who are gloating are doing so rightfully. He let his voter base down, he showed weakness if the face of pressure to both political opponents and foreign adversaries. It doesn’t matter how much military might we may have, if our adversaries detect weakness in the man, they will make a move. His Presidency is finished – he can go about the presiding duties for the next three years, but no one will be listening any more. Shame really, but that’s life.

  6. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Good gray and overcast morning Hamsters. Started out with 70 at 6 and have made it up to 72. Very windy again today, oak pollen of course heavy and responsible for thousands of dripping noses and clogged heads. Antihistamine sales are brisk I’m sure.

    Hope Tedtam’s Hubby comes home today and is much more comfy now than he was before surgery.

    We have a horse in the vet clinic as of yesterday afternoon. It’s Maggie, Tessa’s companion. She has colitis that was diagnosed early in the afternoon when blood tests taken late in the morning were performed. The call came to bring her in asap, which we did. We hope it was diagnosed in time for a full recovery to be had. She had not been eating well other than pasture grass and spent lots more time just standing around than usual. She who lives to eat rather than eats to live gave us a scare when she didn’t even want Mrs. Pasture’s Cookies for Horses. Had the vet out several times in the past week trying to discover what the problem was.

    Off to visit her this morning.

  7. squawkbox Avatar
    squawkbox

    Ms Adee
    From yesterday

    As far as giving up voting, why willingly devolve yourself into a subject instead of remaining a citizen? Spoken like someone whose emotional portion of the brain has spoken rather than the rational part of the brain.

    With all due respect there is nothing in the requirements for citizenship in the United States that we maintain our “card” by voting. Citizenship is a birthright. I am not going to beleaguer you with the same arguments I have made over the years why I skip the vote. But I assure you dear lady the decision is far from emotional. My vote is like a handshake of agreement between men. I do not shake hands with snakes and I remain a citizen of this country.

  8. phil Avatar
    phil

    It doesn’t matter how much military might we may have, if our adversaries detect weakness in the man, they will make a move.

    Nor does it matter how much military might you have if you have no borders. If you have no borders you have no country which makes national security null and void.

    Neither party wants the borders secured, EVER!–and neither wants American sovereignty kept intact.–Citizenship? Ha! It’s a joke.

    But make sure you go vote for the same GooPs in 2018, who if it came between their power and perks and them giving your home and land to an illegal alien, the illegal will win hands down and be sitting in your favorite recliner while you’re left banging on the door in your jockey shorts out in the rain.

    Oh but they did manage to give themselves a raise in GodzillaBus.

    Gutting the fruited plains is hard work.

  9. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    I was disappointed in how the Omnibus thing ended up, but somehow it has not inspired me to writing about it. Certainly not the world-class Jeremiads we are getting on the Couch the last couple of days.

  10. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I’m a Conservative.

    So, I’m just left to live my life and…

    https://youtu.be/y038y8p8qKI

  11. Tedtam Avatar

    The numbness in Hubby’s right arm hasn’t gone away. They are ordering a CAT scan of his brain and calling in a neurologist. Still planning discharge for today, it will just be later than originally planned. Unless they find something that will keep him here.

  12. Hamous Avatar

    I’m still reeling somewhat after watching our President get rolled by his own party yesterday

    Huh? I’m desensitized to getting rolled by my own party. I’m still reeling after getting rolled by our own president. All he had to do was veto, then dare the Republicans to override it. He would have had the voters on his side.

  13. Hamous Avatar

    It’s so bad that Shannon is listening to Commie Canadians 😉

  14. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    10

    That’s an old Jerry Garcia song, circa 1991.

  15. phil Avatar
    phil

    Right now the rational side of my brain tells me we’re all already subjects.–Just take a look around.

    You don’t even own your home. The state does and this is a republican state, or so I’m told.

    The emotional side of my brain is still reeling from coming home and finding the president I thought I voted for in bed, swapping spit with the NY City Mayo Stain and then he looks at me and says…..are you going to believe me or your eyes and ears?

    Sometimes being emotional and passionate about something is a good thing.

    The GOP should change it’s name to the MOP.
    The Malfeasance Oligarch Party.

  16. Hamous Avatar

    Sung by a Commie Canadian

  17. Hamous Avatar

    Actually it was written by the Commie Canadian. Jerry just covered it.

  18. squawkbox Avatar
    squawkbox

    All he had to do was veto, then dare the Republicans to override it. He would have had the voters on his side.

    And that would have put the stake in the heart of the left for generations to come.

    i said when Trump became “resident” of the White House that my main fear was that he was a “deal maker”. His greatest strength has become his downfall (and all conservatives with him).

  19. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Hey, when I go Commie, I go double Commie. All the way.

  20. Hamous Avatar

    Ok Squawk, without googling (or duckduckgoing?), who did the cover art on the album in #20?

  21. squawkbox Avatar
    squawkbox

    Hammie
    Looks like an R Crumb bit of art to me. No I did not google, Bing, yahoo or duck duck go.

  22. squawkbox Avatar
    squawkbox

    Not that I know anything about R Crumb and his art work.

  23. Hamous Avatar

    Very close! Gilbert Shelton of “Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers” fame.

  24. squawkbox Avatar
    squawkbox

    Cool i should have known that. i was a Freak Brothers and Crumb’s Mr. Natural fan for years (among others)

  25. Hamous Avatar

    Ok, this made me chuckle

  26. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    My beloved Quercus virginiana – about 24” diameter at this point – spent five weeks shedding leaves and is still going on two weeks shedding flowers (with another two weeks to go).

    The process has NEVER taken this long. It’s on the North side, so our recently steady North winds have delivered hundreds of pounds of leaves and flowers to my front porch right in front of the front door. Needless to say there’s been a lot of crap getting tracked into the house regardless of how much sweeping gets done.

    Much cussing of that LiveOak tree this year.

    Bitch, bitch, bitch.

  27. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    EG, re your #82 from last night. Oil does not exist as a big lake underground. This is true, a better analogy is that it exists in (and moves through) a big sponge made of rock. When the oil is pulled out it leaves void spaces and with the oil go some of the support structure of the formation. Do this over a big enough area and pull enough of the oil out and there will be a collapse. Earthquakes can happen in association with this.

  28. Hamous Avatar

    Many oil reservoirs are in saturated layers of sand and silt between layers of rock. Not really much different than a lake from a fluid dynamics perspective.

  29. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #7 Squawk

    I was writing in generalities regarding the immediate emotional response to President Trump’s decision to sign the misbegotten bill rather than veto it, not you personally for your decision not to vote.

    I was alluding to Rush’s on the mark recent commentary about allowing socialism to eventually triumph leads inexorably to tyranny and despotism at the expense of the citizens who very mistakenly voted it in. They eventually become subjects of the tyrannical government that beguiled them, regardless of still being called citizens. Those who would fall for the siren call of socialism being just another form of government, however repugnant to the founding of our representative republic, because it sounds so fair to everyone when it demonstrably is no such thing, must be countered by citizens who rightly understand what is endangered and do their utmost to prevent it from winning. Voting is an important component in combat.

    In present national circumstances, a powerful component in our resistance to that happening is the Convention of States movement that the Socialist Dems and RINO Pubbies fear the most. It is worthy of support and would be something very positive for restoring our republic to its original intended form. And nobody has to vote in elections to join this cause.

  30. Hamous Avatar

    It recently occurred to me that 100% of school shootings occur in schools. The solution is obvious. We need to ban schools!

  31. phil Avatar
    phil

    Nothing sums up my take on the GodzillaBus signing and the MOPs better than this.

    Midterms? Midterms??

  32. squawkbox Avatar
    squawkbox

    Ms Adee

    In present national circumstances, a powerful component in our resistance to that happening is the Convention of States movement that the Socialist Dems and RINO Pubbies fear the most. It is worthy of support and would be something very positive for restoring our republic to its original intended form.

    While I believe that we have degenerated to the point where a convention of states may part of our solution, i do not hold out much hope for that.

    John Adams said:

    Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

    We had the semi perfect Constitution in place for our governance but the further we got away from the moral values of a Judaeo/Christian society it was summarily tossed along with God.

    As I see it I am not sure the people attending the convention would have the same values of our founding fathers. Do they create more laws in an effort to return us to original intent? If so then original intent is still missed. Do they throw out the entire system and start over and if so what do we end up with?

    Frankly what this country needs is a corporate change of the heart and a return to God almighty. I am tired of the circular firing squad of man trying to clean to the troubles caused by man. We simply move from one despot to the next. And did i mention I am too damn old to fight a civil war. I’ll fight but wholly anticipate the powers in Washington turning the full force of the military against her peoples. I suspect the latter is closer than we may know.

  33. phil Avatar
    phil

    Hey look.

    Anti-NRA Anti gun Hogg boy is on the tube again spouting off about moon rocks and clear back packs.

  34. El Gordo Avatar

    I would suggest that most sinkholes are the result of underground water dissolving the limestone bases which create caves, etc. and eventually leading to surface collapse. These sinkholes don’t appear to be very deep (relatively speaking). At least that seems to be the case around here where there are caves carved out of limestone by water.

  35. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    In keeping with the Commie theme, this most talented and uniquely annoying Commie has a great song which would make good background music as you review your past week of living in America.

    https://youtu.be/YHimia_Fxzs

  36. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    36
    (One of the great guitar solos of all time
    Highest volume recommended.)

  37. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    That’s an old Jerry Garcia song, circa 1991.

    Didn’t he inhabit communes from time to time? People who live in communes are commune-ists.

    He’s also a hippie freak stoner (or was).

  38. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Weekend OC assignment:
    I did it! I RTWDT…

  39. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    36

    Yanno, if that song doesn’t get your booty moving even just a little bit,

    then you just may be….

    deceased.

  40. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Late for my nap.
    Later, chickadees.

  41. Tedtam Avatar

    Still waiting for CT scan results. Getting things done on a weekend takes forrevvvverrr.

  42. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Getting discharged on a weekday is bad enough.

    But weekends? Lordy.

    Worse than waiting on a CoH problem permit? Maybe not.

    🙂

  43. Tedtam Avatar

    We will be here another day, maybe two. They suspect a ministroke is causing the numbness in his arm and want to move him to another floor to put him on a heart monitor, which they don’t have in this room. He’ll get an MRI soon to better visualize the problem.

  44. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Dang. Prayer warriors called back in.

  45. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Hey, GramPaw, what’s fer supper? Well I fried up some Bluegill that was imported from the farm pond over N Alabama. We also had fries and hush puppies, I was going to pick up some store boughten’ cole slaw at the store but they were out so my wife threw together a green salad,….Mmm,..Mmm. 😀

  46. squawkbox Avatar
    squawkbox

    Hey, GramPaw can i get reservation for 2 sometime this week?

  47. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    That’s purdy SD!

  48. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    The worst storm inTexas history (property damage) was the subject of today’s Texas Bucket List television program.

    Featuring updates on our coastal Texans from Rockport to Beaumont, it’s still a daughnting reminder of the many thousands who still live in adverse conditions while they try to rebuild their lives.

    Long live Rockport/Fulton/Port A.

  49. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    It is every Texan’s duty to get in their vehicle and drive to the coast and spend some money.

    RIGHT NOW DAMMIT

  50. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    El Presidente de Venezuela has a clever plan to stop the crippling inflation in his country.

    Replace El Bolivár Fuerte with El Bolivár Super!

  51. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    50
    That guy is truly the most annoying bottle rocket to fly by in a long time.
    But…
    He’s liable to parlay his 15 minutes into a lifetime of lucrative assholery.

  52. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I’ve got fifty bucks that says he’s going to replace Greek Boy on ABC’s This Week on Sundays.

  53. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #54 Shannon

    I would definitely not bet against that. 🙂

  54. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #44 Tedtam

    Prayers launched once more.

  55. Tedtam Avatar

    FINALLY getting his MRI scans..then he moves to the stroke floor for monitoring. Hopefully monitoring only and then he gets to come home. Fortunately he decided to make a lap around the halls before they came to get him. I don’t know how much movement he’ll get when they attach the monitors on him in his new room. He walks a lot faster than I thought he’d be able to, so soon. If it weren’t for this numbness in his arm I’d be fetching him sammiches at the house.

  56. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Tedtam, we are all hoping to hear good news from you tomorrow about Hubby’s arm numbness.

  57. Tedtam Avatar

    Hogg, et al, should be charged with DUI.

    Damn Useful Idiots

  58. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Hogg kilt the blog.

  59. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    We need to ban blog killin’.

  60. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    A thought about Tedtam’s Hubby’s numb arm: perhaps there has been nerve bruising or damage in his arm that is the cause and not something wrong in his brain.

  61. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    32 Phil

    Perfect.

  62. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Well, it’s Sunday, coffee is about ready.
    Mornin’ Gang

  63. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Good Sunday morning Hamsters. We’ve got 65 at 6 and high humidity that fortunately is not overpowering at the moment. Would be nice to wring some rain out of it as it’s getting dry here.

    Visited Maggie in the equine clinic yesterday morning. She’s getting IV fluids and electrolytes as well as antibiotics for her colitis. She’s still feeling punk but not so bad she couldn’t enjoy company and lots of attention. Best news thus far is she was not worse and maybe a bit better. I think she will be there for a few days.

    In case you’re wondering how she can have IVs and be loose in the stall so she can move around and lie down, the vets have a clever arrangement that works well.

    The IV fluid bags are suspended from the ceiling and down far enough to be reachable by the staff for changing out but too far up for the horse to reach them. The tubing to the needle in her neck is coiled and very flexible so it stretches when she moves without pulling the needle out. Also the coil runs through a braid in her mane for stability before it gets to the needle that is taped in place. And she is carefully and frequently monitored.

  64. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Dense mostly ground fog is rolling in around us so I can barely see farther than the back of the barn into the back pasture, and the house across the road is disappearing fast. Guess that will provide a bit of moisture until the predicted rains move in Tuesday and Wednesday.

  65. Tedtam Avatar

    #63

    A thought about Tedtam’s Hubby’s numb arm: perhaps there has been nerve bruising or damage in his arm that is the cause and not something wrong in his brain.

    That was the first thought, but the numbness didn’t go away as expected. The CT scan showed a small stroke in the thalamus, which fits his symptoms. They don’t know where the blood clot came from that caused the stroke, hence the heart monitor and heart sonogram scheduled for today.

  66. Hamous Avatar

    The whole idea of “personals” ads always seemed a little creepy to me. With all the whacked-out people out there it seems pretty dangerous to go looking for love blindly. Craigslist has removed them with the passage of an online sex trafficking bill last week.

  67. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #68 Tedtam

    Prayers launched for Hubby and you that this resolves quickly and completely.

    Virtual hugs sent also.

  68. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Finally, I got around to RTWDT.
    Very interesting and not surprising, that is, the response from Israel and W’s White House. As usual, Dick Cheney was on the right side of history.
    Oh, and ifin’ you’re interested; All that remains is the remains themselves.

  69. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #71

    I can’t blame W, he had two wars going and was getting hammered. Of course if he’d of just went in and killed the bad guys and left like many of us wanted he wouldn’t have been in the mess. But salutes to the Israelis for having the chops to do it.

  70. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    To erect a reactor out in the wide open like that was just crazy. Almost worked though.

  71. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #71

    Looks like they still got a nice pumping station left if they ever need one. 😀

  72. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Flying to Freedom in a Homemade Airplane.

    At least that’s what Pieniazek did back in the day. Using a Continental aircraft engine and parts from different gliders — the tail from a Foka, the wings from a Swallow — he began assembling what would become his escape pod in his 7-year-old daughter’s tiny bedroom in their apartment in Leszno, about 200 miles west of Warsaw. The tail extended into the hallway.

    As each component was completed, he lowered it out his first-floor window and then took it to a nearby hangar for storage and assembly. The wooden plane, which his daughter named the Kukulka, or Cuckoo, wasn’t even that secret. It was the first self-constructed plane registered with Polish authorities, and the national media picked up the story: Look at this industrious Polish engineer, making his own plane — truly a socialist hero!

    After 26 months, the Cuckoo was airworthy. Pieniazek flew it on short trips around Poland for months — coasting on his newfound fame, above suspicion, likely because his plan was wildly impractical. In that time, he trained 44 other pilots in the Cuckoo, including several women.

  73. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Sad news from the vet clinic. Maggie is failing fast and there’s no hope for her recovery. We agree with her owner it’s time to say goodbye. Tessa will be lonely for a while until we find her another companion.

  74. Tedtam Avatar

    Adee – so sorry for Maggie. Saying good-bye is so hard.

  75. El Gordo Avatar

    If you were wondering who was financing the Tide pod eating, gun grabbing children who are being prostituted in various marches around the country, here’s an effort to follow the money. We’re just supposed to believe that these kids have the technical skills and financial resources to organize, plan, and execute this operation all on their on – not exactly so.
    https://freedomoutpost.com/runs-march-lives/

  76. Tedtam Avatar

    I’m out of mass – we had the visiting priest who won’t. stop. talking. When I entered, just before mass started, he was standing up and exhorting the small congregation to really speak out our parts of Gospel. I don’t know how long he was there, but I know he was up there for at least ten minutes. Then the real confusion began.

    He butchered mass – He left out most of the introductory rites. Skipped the first reading completely. In the Gospel for Palm Sunday, the congregation works with the priest and readers to re-enact the events of Jesus’ story. Instead of letting one of the readers do the “voice” part (which covers various parties in the story), he had the congregation do the “crowd” AND the “voice” parts. He said there wouldn’t be a homily, but instead went over the schedule of liturgies for Holy Week. We know the schedule, we do it every year. The explanation of our liturgy schedule was longer than a normal homily. The guy just doesn’t know when to stop.

    At least he didn’t go on and on and on like he did after mass last week.

    I have not been so glad to get out of mass for a long time.

  77. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    So sorry to hear that Ms. Adee.

  78. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    @ the Car Wash,…..note to self; Ifin’ you ever get another Corvette, don’t leave it unattended at Car Spa.
    Ms Adee, so sorry to hear about Maggie, how old is she?

  79. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Don’t get between Jedediah Ezekiel Fulton and 30 double cheeseburgers.

  80. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Thank you Hamsters for the condolences about Maggie. She was 17, and a grandmother several times. We and her owner are mourning her passing but convinced that everything that could be done for her was done. And now she will help the living by donating her feet for research into an evil disease of horse feet called laminitis. The dead teach the living.

  81. El Gordo Avatar

    I just think it’s truly a blessing that you choose to take in these horses and care for them in their later years.

  82. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #78 EG
    Great find! Informational and had NO PIX of the Hogg kid. I saw something, I think on unz.com, that said Hogg’s head looks like a character balloon. Mostly because of how he doesn’t seem to have an actual lower jaw.

  83. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    While I’m here, my sympathies again to TT and her Hubby — hope he is going to be Ok — and to Adee and her RIP horse Maggie — who I am sure has truly enjoyed her time as a country companion.

  84. Hamous Avatar

    Hogg’s head looks like a character balloon. Mostly because of how he doesn’t seem to have an actual lower jaw.

    And under-developed arms. I think he looks like Mr. Mackey. Mmm-kay?

  85. El Gordo Avatar

    Oh great, now I’ve got to go and watch some South Park episodes instead of going out to mow the lawn.

    Drudge says Stormy is going to infect the airwaves tonight with canker sores on See BS to talk about selling herself to Trump presumably. I imagine some pervs will be sitting in their easy chairs doing what pervs do. Just another reminder why I don’t watch any over the air TV and very little TV overall.

  86. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #89
    Yep.

  87. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Dem blue flowers are starting to get pretty intense around these parts.

  88. Hamous Avatar

    Might be the only blue wave they see this year. Not for the Republicans trying to hand it to them.

  89. Tedtam Avatar

    It took me forever to get to the hospital today – Loop 610 is closed down both at I-45 and Hwy 288. My little black box helped me find a back way to the Med Center area, only to find more lanes closed and the weekend traffic around the MacGregor area heavy to boot. A 20 minute drive turned into a 40 minute ordeal.

    And the parking garage here is confusing. I will be using a third method of paying and exiting today, as the system I used yesterday wouldn’t work today. And the system I used the first day was refused the second day. Holy crap, it’s a parking garage! It shouldn’t be that difficult, but then they’re automated and not using real people.

    Hubby said some of the feeling is returning to his arm and the MRI didn’t show anything. I guess this was just a warning. He’s had a rough night – didn’t like the bed much, but he like the chair and is eating heartily. He thinks he’s going home tonight. We’ve taken his mother’s bed – which has the head and foot raising capability – into our living room where he can access a chair with arms, the TV, and a large bathroom that will accommodate him and the walker.

    And we found his missing headset when we moved his recliner to set up the bed. Win!

  90. Tedtam Avatar

    And I brought my tablet and my hot spot; got bills paid while I was here with Hubby. That stack of mail has been piling up on my desk…was about thiiiiiiis high.

    Been a crazy week. I can’t wait for all this chaos to be over. Over. Over over over. OVVVVERRRR.

  91. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Well, I mentioned that I finally got rid of the Gawd awful Tarrs on the GMC Pick-Um-Up and reshod her with a set of BFG, All Terrain, LT 275/60 R20’s and new XD Series, Black, Machete rims. The truck came with a nice set of GMC 17” Mag wheels that looked real good but they were silver in color and a white truck has to have black rims, just like my 97 GMC and 2005 Chevy. Also,…if you replace the wheels you have to go up to 20’s. FWIW; I’ve been running BFG All Terrain’s for over 30 years, I first put them on the old 94 GMC long bed. About the long bed, I had to drive the dayaam thang to Louisiana to turn it around

  92. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Well since I probably kilt the blog, I’m off to fire up the Beast, I wonder if Lil’ Bit will notice? 😀

  93. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #99 Teeing her up,………..3,……2,…….1……..

  94. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    100, just for Daverino!

  95. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    Good afternoon.

  96. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    101
    Dyan Cannon, one of the sexiest and most unapologetic Hollywood hussies of her time.
    Beginning with her boca magnifica.

  97. Hamous Avatar

    #97 Did you get your speedo recalibrated?

  98. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #97 Did you get your speedo recalibrated?

    Not yet, but I think my “Code Reader” will do that, if not, I’ll bend over and grab the ankles a Get R Done.

  99. Hamous Avatar

    #101, 103. Good thing she was hot. I’m trying to decide who was the worst singer.

    I saw that movie in Monroe, LA the summer of 1980. Not sure how or why I remember that.

  100. Hamous Avatar

    #105

    Now that it’s out of warranty I’m gonna put a lift kit on my Taco, which will necessitate larger wheels and tires. That will in turn lead to speedometer recal.

  101. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    107, Hamous, 35’s? 😀

  102. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Good afternoon Texpat, glad to have you here.

  103. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    A lift kit?

    And buy a ladder?

    🙂

  104. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    In that movie Cannon didn’t need a professional singing voice. Staying on key and pulling off the harmony swapping was good enough. It was about the relationship. They would’ve caught more crap for dubbing in some pro.

    Probably one of the best scenes in a pretty sorry movie.

  105. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    And it happens to be one of my favorite Kristofferson songs.

  106. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    The Boy’s 94 GMC Step-Side 4X4 after the lift and wheels/tarrs. FWIW; he and a couple of his buddies installed the 4″ lift kit. One day I came home to THIS in my front yard. I was sure, that the dayaam truck would never run again, but dang it they didn’t pull it off. All I had to do was stretch the radiator shroud….FWIW; He was 16 at this time.

  107. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Two Z-28’s (daughter) two GSXR 600’s and one GMC 4X4, (the Boy). Yup. I was a better Daddy than a Father. 😀

  108. Hamous Avatar

    And it happens to be one of my favorite Kristofferson songs.

    Yeah, we know about you and commie songwriters 😉

  109. El Gordo Avatar

    Thinking is a dangerous thing. After Trump’s caving on the spending bill, I’m seeing all kinds of “don’t give up,” “he needs us more now that ever” type stuff out there, along with all sorts of ideas about how he can trick them with this and that, etc. But, so far I’m not falling for it. My congresscritter, known weasel and backbencher Rep, who voted for this bill is running unopposed this fall, but I still will not be voting for him. I’ve gone from strong Trump to neutral Trump. I’m not angry, just disappointed since any old run of the mill Rep would have caved and done the same thing. So the question comes up – What could Trump do to get back in my good graces (me being representative of the millions of former pro Trump voters out there). Answer is, I can’t think of anything. Wife cheats on you, its never the same again no matter what. That is why I think Trump is done as President – he may keep the office and nominate some judges or something, but his agenda is over. Dems will definitely take the House this fall after the fiasco, and they will most likely impeach, but no one will care one way or the other. The Dems would rather keep him in office in a weakened position than have to deal with Pence. It’s a shame since he did look promising for a while there.

    Now, SeeBS is running the Stormy steamy story tonight, but who cares. Nobody is prepared to defend Trump any more. Mueller can have him, Stormy can have him, the Dems can have him – nobody cares. So, SeeBS may be overplaying its hand running this story now. If it’s smutty enough, some people might start feeling some sympathy for Trump again, but not likely.

    If you think there is something Trump can say or do to reignite interest and support for him, share it please. I need something to grab hold of.

  110. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I’m trying to decide who was the worst singer.

    As far as Willie is concerned, he never claimed to be Pavarotti. It has never been about his singing voice anyway. He is as much a part of the warp and woof of this nation as any other singer or songwriter you care to name.

    And by the way, Welcome to Texas.

  111. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    ELGordo,

    She’s a frikken porn actress, for Pete’s sake. Ignore it.

    Besides, who cares who the Combover Cowboy was banging?

    We’ve made incremental progress since the rapist from Arkansas.

  112. Hamous Avatar

    What could Trump do to get back in my good graces (me being representative of the millions of former pro Trump voters out there). Answer is, I can’t think of anything.

    Aw, RBG has to be knocking on the Devil’s door. Trump will name another excellent SC justice and all will be forgiven.

    Meanwhile, I think the Thursday betrayal will put us, what, about 23 Trillion in the hole? Besides, it doesn’t count if we owe it to ourselves.

  113. Hamous Avatar

    As far as Willie is concerned, he never claimed to be Pavarotti. It has never been about his singing voice anyway. He is as much a part of the warp and woof of this nation as any other singer or songwriter you care to name.

    Yeah, yeah, I know. I even own a few Willie vinyls. Phases and Stages has a special place in my heart. He still can’t sing. In fact, I think he’s given up trying.

    And by the way, Welcome to Texas.

    A few weeks ago, March 7th to exact, I have lived in Texas 37 years. No need to welcome me.

  114. El Gordo Avatar

    Texas is not just a place – it’s a state of mind. After 37 years do you finally qualify for Texas citizenship?

  115. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    I’m glad to be born in Texas and never left it for more than a few days, except for the summer of 1962 when I did WAC basic training at Ft McClellan in Anniston AL, prior to Med Corps training at Ft Sam Houston in San Antonio.

  116. Hamous Avatar

    #123

    Hell if I know. Apparently it’s not up to me.

  117. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Trump “caved on the spending bill”?????

    Caved? Caved on what?

    I’m old and forgetful so I have no recollection of him being a deficit hawk. Please, refresh my memory.

  118. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Phases and Stages has a special place in my heart.

    Me, too.

    /wiping away a tear.

  119. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Be careful what you’re dreaming…

    https://youtu.be/TTFKRK6d8OI

  120. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    On March 26, 1969 we arrived in Houston from Madison, WI. It was a two-day trek driving our sorta pink Oldsmobile sedan (aka Pink Panther) from chilly Wisconsin spring weather to much a warmer spring in Houston. The moving van was somewhere behind us, picking up other loads since as college students suddenly really employed we had only a two-bedroom apartment’s worth of furnishings to move.

    We stayed in a nice motel on 10 west near Memorial City for about a week while apartment hunting, and spouse started work with Schlumberger way down on Gulf Freeway. Found a nice townhouse for rent a couple of blocks from Sharpstown Mall in the days that it was one of The Places to be. Long ago and far away now. A little over a year later we bought a nice house in Braeburn Valley a couple of blocks off Braeswood Blvd. between Fondren and Gessner. At that time Braeswood ended at Gessner, and on the other side of Gessner were cow pastures. 🙂

  121. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Umm, we’re Texans by choice, not by chance of birth. 😉

  122. phil Avatar
    phil

    I don’t ever recall any shows on 60 Proglibdyte Minutes about all the rumors concerning the Kenyan Skullduggery King and his allegedly being a bathhouse bronco buster.

    nor do I remember any about

    Slick Willy the Arkansas Orifice Chaser.–But it was just his personal life anyway. Had nothing to do with his job as president. And besides, oral sex is not sex.

    But that’s what we’ve come to expect from the Metastasized Media.

    Isn’t it?

  123. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    The qualifications for being an official Texan are unpublished.

    You either know you are, or you know you are not.

    I’m pretty sure all Couch critters are true Texans. Some even acquit themselves better than certain natives.

    Some just don’t have enough couth to keep their criticism of Texas icon Willie Nelson behind closed doors.

  124. El Gordo Avatar

    …or talk about chili and beans or something like that.

  125. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Not a chance in hell I was going to miss the Great American Interview of a Great American Porn Star by the country’s most prominent fag.

    I must say that Stormy Daniels may be the most believable person I’ve ever seen on Sixty Minutes.

    My response remains, “So what?”

  126. Hamous Avatar

    A supporter of the LGBT movement, Nelson published in 2006 through iTunes a version of Ned Sublette’s “Cowboys Are Frequently, Secretly Fond of Each Other”, that met instant success.

    Just sayin’

  127. El Gordo Avatar

    What is the liberal fascination with pervs? That and trains. Dems always are accusing someone of being a perv, but it’s usually one of theirs that proves to be so. Trump does obviously have better taste in sluts than Clinton though.

  128. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    I have mucho respect for Texans by choice rather than born here. I didn’t do nuthin but be blessed to be born here. Those that move away and shovel snow though… 😛

  129. phil Avatar
    phil

    Crab puffs and coleslaw are my favorite subjects because coleslaw is usually mixed with mayo, which I can segue into a dig at the NY City Mayo Stain and crab puffs somehow have a Botox Nan connection, in a weird sort of crustacean-y way.

  130. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Only Phil knows if Phil is a Texan. But everyone knows he’s from Planet Strange.

    I’m guessing the Pink Planet….

    https://youtu.be/icvzvhfU5Xw

  131. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    True Texans can talk about anything they want to talk about. They don’t accept arbitrary decisions about matters of taste. And they will graciously allow YOU to say whatever is on YOUR mind, as well.

  132. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Harrumph!

  133. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Highly protective of their heritage, Texans are door mats for no one!!!!

  134. Tedtam Avatar

    Got Hubby home and stocked his pain meds. We’d set up a bed in the living room, but he wants to sleep in the recliner with a pillow at his back. The doc really didn’t want the recliner, but with the extra back support, I suppose Hubby’s gonna sleep where he wants. He’s snoring away right now – didn’t sleep worth a darn last night; he too much in the hospital bed. I’ll put some sheets on the bed, just in case, but I doubt he’ll use it. It’ll become a huge, inconvenient conversation piece for a while.

    So much for prepping.

  135. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Home!! Yeehaw!

    Prayers lifted up for him…and especially his rock of a caregiver.

    Been there my dear.

  136. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    45
    Still am, actually.

    Anything y’all need, just ask.

    Seriously.

  137. phil Avatar
    phil

    Only Phil knows if Phil is a Texan. But everyone knows he’s from Planet Strange.

    I’m guessing the Pink Planet….

    LoL–HAHAHA unca Shanny!

    Born and raised in the Lone Star State.

  138. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Born and raised in the Lone Star State.

    Wow. We are truly diverse.

  139. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Yea, Hubby is home. Navigating parking garages around St. Luke’s is history at last.

    The Texas Medical Center has become a not so small city all its own, crammed into a small area, building up because building out is over. Unless of course there’s more property bought relatively recently that’s outside the original confines of the center such as the Baylor College of Medicine experiment next to the Michael DeBakey VA center.

  140. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Come April 12th we’ll have been in our home on the moors of the Brazos 38 years. Time sure does fly.

  141. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    I think Willie Nelson is a pretty despicable human being no matter what his geographical location of birth.

    The man is a dope fiend, metaphysical enabler of fakers and fakirs, an extraordinary spinner of tales and fables – a bullsh!tter of multifarious talents. He’s one of those people contemptuous of his own blessed talents who sails through life flaunting his conceits like a jackass on the vine.

    I wish I could have admiration for the man, but I do not and I cannot.

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