Tuesday “You Can Only Twist So Far” Open Comments

You can twist the language only so far to avoid the truth before…you’re back at the truth again.

Texas Democrats had numerous training sessions available on the last day of the Texas Democratic Convention. NARAL Pro-Choice Texas, the Texas arm of the National Abortion Reproductive Rights Action League (NARAL), hosted a session entitled “Finding Common Ground on Reproductive Rights.” The website for the state Democratic Convention described the course as “Providing pointers and practice to help participants have productive discussions with different audiences on abortion, contraception and reproductive health issues.” The class was designed to “also provide messaging to assist campaigns with addressing questions around reproductive rights.” NARAL told the group that it provides practice sessions in order to help candidates have effective pro-choice messaging.

I’ve always been confused about how they equate “reproductive health” with a process that forcibly and sometimes violently invades a woman’s body and uses techniques that can cause hemorrhage, permanent damage, and even death. Yep, that sounds pretty healthy.

In using a value based message, women were told to discuss their own values while “acknowledging the complexity of the situation” and “encouraging empathy for making a different decision.” NARAL’s strategy to use personal values “is to make it human and real, not just a bumper sticker.”

The “complexity of the situation” could have been made much more simple had the partners involved taken more care before knocking boots. The “different decision” involves killing a human being. It’s already pretty “human and real”.

“Choice” is no longer considered a persuasive issue and the women were told “to stay away from slogan type of words.” They were also told not to use the word “fetus” and “to use more ‘complex’ words like ‘baby’ if that is how you feel about it.”

Yep, a baby is obviously more complex than a callous afternoon appointment. But the fact that they’re now going to admit it’s not a “product of pregnancy” or some such, but are admitting it’s a baby – that may bite them in the proverbial buttocks.
I’ll let you read the rest of the article. These people turn my stomach. But I will put the last paragraph here. This statement is….well, you just have to read it for yourself.

In addressing “the false argument” that Democrats do not support the death penalty but support abortion, Long engaged in a rapid-fire questions response about the difficulty of choice, and people’s different belief systems. The Communications Director said to “shy away from ‘abortion is murder’ because it is so bananas to us.”


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  1. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    First!
    Mornin’ Gang

  2. Sarge Avatar

    Why yesterday’s SCOTUS ruling is no reason to celebrate, and why the leftos are such ignorant paranoids for their hysterical reaction.

    Just as notable is what the Supreme Court’s ruling did not do. Women who work for the plaintiffs, Hobby Lobby, remain able to use their employer-provided insurance coverage to finance the most popular forms of contraception. They remain free to use their wages to finance the ones Hobby Lobby will not cover. They remain free to find other jobs, too, if they want employer-provided insurance coverage that includes the abortifacients to which Hobby Lobby objects. Congress remains free to enact a new law that requires employers to cover abortifacients and contraceptives and explicitly rules out any RFRA exemptions. It remains free, for that matter, to repeal RFRA altogether.
    The ruling does not even make it clear whether the Little Sisters of the Poor will, in the end, remain free from the requirement that they authorize another party to provide contraceptive coverage. That question will be answered in a different case. The Court’s ruling today, in short, is an extremely limited one. It does not even restore the full scope of freedom employers had in these matters as recently as 2012. Nobody then, you may recall, was agitated over the fact that throughout the entire course of American history up to that point, their supposed “rights” to free contraceptive coverage from employers had been continuously violated.
    It can be safely predicted that any change in birth rates and rates of contraceptive use based on this ruling will be undetectable. All that has changed is that employers are a little freer to refuse to engage in conduct they consider religiously objectionable. That this increase in freedom makes some people so very upset tells us more about them than about the Court’s ruling.

  3. Hamous Avatar

    Tedtam – Kinder, gentler abortion politics?

  4. Tedtam Avatar

    “Sophie’s Choice” poster re Hobby Lobby. Priceless.

  5. Tedtam Avatar

    Black pastor comes forward – claiming Cochran had a “pay to vote” campaign.
    Because if you give Obama voters money, they’ll vote for whoever you ask.

  6. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Good morning Hamsters. July 1 sails in on a morning 74, mugly but not overboard, high clouds and haze from the Sahara Desert sands blowing over us. Another undocumented immigrant, this time from Africa, blowing through. It will not stay, however. Other than the grit it leaves behind. Allergy sufferers certainly feel it.

  7. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    There was an inquiry last night about the condition of my boss; thank you very much for asking.
    PRAISE REPORT!!
    I am very happy to report that he has rebounded in amazing fashion. Yesterday and I took the boss to the office and he lasted until 11am. He was walking slowly, but he wanted to come to the office which is a great sign. This morning he is, to quote my grandfather, ‘all full of *iss and vinegar’, his brain seems to be working well and is clear headed, he is walking faster and he is making jokes and great movie references (Mel Brooks movies), he is more stable on his feet and his eyes are clearer.
    The next chemo session is scheduled for this Thursday morning; I shall continue to pray that he overcomes this next hurdle.

  8. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    The “complexity of the situation” could have been made much more simple had the partners involved taken more care before knocking boots.

    In my understanding of the reproductive process, it would appear that boots are neither an essential part of the process and, even if present, would be unlikely to be “knocking”.

  9. Hamous Avatar

    Debra Saunders wonders how women got birth control before Mocha jesus illuminated us with the wondrous ACA.

  10. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    My #7 has been purged of the potentially offensive word that formerly started with a p, hopefully it will make it out of the spit bucket.

  11. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    8 Bones
    Must be some kind of SE Houston vernacular.

  12. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Is it “knocking boots” or “knocking booties” ? The Couch wants to know!

  13. Sarge Avatar

    mharper42 says:
    JULY 1, 2014 AT 9:12 AM
    Is it “knocking boots” or “knocking booties” ? The Couch wants to know!

    I believe “bumping uglies” is the acceptable norm.

  14. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    “horizontal mambo”
    “the dance with no pants”
    “the beast with two backs”

  15. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    There is and should always be a very steep price for kidnapping and murdering innocent Israeli citizens.

    HEADLINE: Israel launches Gaza air strike after bodies of missing teens found
    /snip
    The men Israel has accused of carrying out the abductions are still at large. Israeli media said the break in the case came after their relatives were interrogated.
    Troops set off explosions in the family homes of the alleged abductors late on Monday, blowing open a doorway in one, an army spokeswoman said. The other property was on fire after the blast. Soldiers, who arrested one of the suspect’s father and brothers, ordered the inhabitants of the dwellings to leave before the detonations.

    I think this will likely escalate and I hope that Israel does not back down and hits back much harder each and every time they are attacked.

  16. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #14:
    The hokey pokey

  17. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    President Obama urged Israeli leaders not to “destabilize the situation.

    President Obama urged Israeli leaders not to “destabilize the situation” following the discovery of the bodies of three teenagers, including one American citizen, who were kidnapped by Hamas, according to Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
    “As a father, I cannot imagine the indescribable pain that the parents of these teenage boys are experiencing,” Obama said in a prepared statement. “From the outset, I have offered our full support to Israel and the Palestinian Authority to find the perpetrators of this crime and bring them to justice, and I encourage Israel and the Palestinian Authority to continue working together in that effort. I also urge all parties to refrain from steps that could further destabilize the situation. As the Israeli people deal with this tragedy, they have the full support and friendship of the United States.”

  18. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #17 SD: Isn’t it interesting that the JugEared Jackass never bothers to ask/warn/threaten the palestenian scum to stop instigating the trouble in the first place?

  19. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    I guess Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu didn’t agree with the man-child in the White House.

  20. Sarge Avatar

    “No. I had my swimming trunks on, all the time my swimming trunks.

  21. Tedtam Avatar

    If we draw a comparison, using TBO as a “mother” (he darn sure knows how to wag a finger!) and the Middle East as “her kids”….
    I think that the schizophrenic way he’s trying to handle situations there would end up with at least two serial killers, one homeless guy, and prostitute in the family.

  22. Sarge Avatar

    wagonburner says:
    JULY 1, 2014 AT 9:21 AM
    “horizontal mambo”
    “the dance with no pants”
    “the beast with two backs”

    Doin the bone dance

  23. Tedtam Avatar

    My weight was down again this morning YAY!, but my blood sugar was up.
    I ate a taco salad last night, with sour cream and a little of that green sauce (I was out with girl friends). Not a chip passed my lips (dangit!), nor did I eat the taco shell (dangit). I counted my carbs all day – I estimated about 20 carbs, which is the low end of the Atkins allowance.
    I didn’t get any exercise in. I notice a big difference when I work out. Today is a short day (another appointment tonight), but I do have my cheap treadmill downstairs, or I guess I could fit in some aerobics. That will save time running to the gym. But if I have to go to the bank anyway, the gym is, like, right there, which is why I chose that gym to begin with.
    Lovely and Aggie Beau have asked me up for the Fourth weekend. They are already planning menus around my diet. Have I mentioned I love those two? And the little one they gave birth to?

  24. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #17 SD: My #15 speaks of the same thing but your link has better content.

  25. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    TT: You have mail.

  26. Dooood Avatar

    #24 TT,
    Don’t know if you’ve read this site or not. It’s worked very well for me thus far. Cutting out carbs (and replacing that with fat intake) is tough because it runs contrary to most of what we’ve been told our entire lives by the medical / dietary profession. For me though, Low Carb / High Fat works (and apparently for a lot of others also). Best wishes for your success and good health.

  27. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #24, 28: THe high protein and fat, low carb “diet” is really my preferred way to eat, it just makes me feel good. The main sources of my carbs are beer, home made bread, whisky, fritos and hummus, and smashed taters.

  28. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Technically, whisk(e)y has no carbs, although alcohol is a source of calories. Beer has carbs from the maltose left over from the brewing process (plus any “additives”, e.g. strawberry &/or raspberry for you lambic fans).
    Potatoes (non-yams) have a glycemic index that rivals table sugar.

  29. Dooood Avatar

    Minimizing on beer has been REALLY tough for me as much as I love it. But I go with a glass of red wine from time to time and that helps. Either that or vodka in a martini (I detest gin). Still gotta have a beer once in a while though, just not as a matter of habit like I did before.

  30. Tedtam Avatar

    #28
    That looks a lot like what I’m doing now, which seems to be working. Even my “high” reading today was “low” compared to what I was testing before I started Atkins.
    Atkins says that my carb sensitivity may reduce as my weight drops. If that’s the case, I can move towards the diet your website proposes.

  31. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Either that or vodka in a martini (I detest gin).

    wimp
    The drink you describe is a “kangaroo“.

  32. Tedtam Avatar

    #33 WB

    Either that or vodka in a martini (I detest gin).

    wimp
    The drink you describe is a “kangaroo“.

    Why? Is it because it jumps up and kicks you hard?

  33. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I have no idea. Whoever invented it musta had a thing for large marsupials.

  34. Dooood Avatar

    Gin is like drinking perfume. Blech!
    A vodka martini is called a kangaroo? Huh… I always just called it a martini cuz as far as I’m concerned that’s the only kind there is!
    🙂

  35. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    It looks like the crackas may have dodged a bullet, but the Carolinas are DOOMED.
    Prolly not, but perhaps the storm could take a left turn off of hatteras and dump on DC.

  36. Tedtam Avatar

    With any luck it’ll shut down DC.

  37. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #36

    I always just called it a martini cuz as far as I’m concerned that’s the only kind there is!

    Howzabout a doooodtini?

  38. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Hmmm… an itty bitty teeny weeny yellow polka dot doooodtini…

  39. Dooood Avatar

    Hmmm… an itty bitty teeny weeny yellow polka dot doooodtini…

    Heh… I actually prefer ’em supersized w/ plenty of dirty and blue cheese olives! But if ever do need assistance naming an adult beverage in the future I may come ask for your assistance.

  40. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    supersized w/ plenty of dirty and blue cheese olives!

    Izzat a salad or a drink?
    Just what kind of dirt do you prefer in your dooooooooodtini?

  41. Sarge Avatar

    I had dirty and blue cheese olives once—-

  42. Dooood Avatar

    Likely cost ya more’n twenny bux these days.

  43. Hamous Avatar

    The Martini is a cocktail made with gin and vermouth, and garnished with an olive or a lemon twist. Over the years, the Martini has become one of the best-known mixed alcoholic beverages. H. L. Mencken called the Martini “the only American invention as perfect as the sonnet” and E. B. White called it “the elixir of quietude”.
    If you make it with vodka it’s not a martini, it’s a vodka martini (or kangaroo). If you make it with gin and vodka it’s called a vesper.

  44. Hamous Avatar

    The thought of blue cheese olives in a kangaroo is making me queasy. Why not just go all the way and use fumunda cheese olives?

  45. Dooood Avatar

    Why not just go all the way and use fumunda cheese olives?

    If you have your own homemade stash of those or even know where to obtain them commercially I really don’t want to know about it.

  46. Dooood Avatar

    The Martini is a cocktail made with gin and vermouth, and garnished with an olive or a lemon twist. Over the years, the Martini has become one of the best-known mixed alcoholic beverages. H. L. Mencken called the Martini “the only American invention as perfect as the sonnet”

    He also said “On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”. Guess he couldn’t always be right.

  47. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    supersized w/ plenty of dirty and blue cheese olives!

    Try garlic-stuffed olives. Yum.

    Izzat a salad or a drink?

    Yes. Next question?

    Just what kind of dirt do you prefer in your dooooooooodtini?

    “Dirty” in the context of a martini (or kangaroo) means some olive brine is added to the drink. The only brine I like in mine is whatever happens to be stuck to the olive(s). One way to avoid the brine is to rinse the olives, then marinate them in gin until you’re ready to use them.
    Yum!

  48. Dooood Avatar

    Try garlic-stuffed olives. Yum.

    Gotta agree there. Those are tasty as well. All this has me thinkin’ I need to make a Spec’s trip soon. I’m very impressed with the Texas vodkas. Pretty much all I’ll buy these days unless I get a wild hair.

  49. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Speaking of “wild hair”, I got some good twilight shots of Bunzie — who is still eluding that rattler that Sarge predicted will eat him up — last night. One is posted on my FB for those with the keys to the kingdom.

  50. Hamous Avatar

    Get him fattened up and ready for the first cold snap.

  51. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Hamas sez “the gates of hell will open” if Israel takes military action in the Gaza Strip.
    Israel sez “OK”

  52. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    55
    Damn near drove off the road laughing.

  53. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Spouse and I will be absent for a few days, up in Wisconsin visiting kin and soaking up the cool front to arrive there today. Rain at last clearing out and winter (for us) temps moving in. Mid 50s at night to upper 60s or lower 70s daytime. Packing will be fun.
    Will peek in every so often.

  54. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    58 Adee
    No fair.

  55. Tedtam Avatar

    Mom-in-law is planning a September trip to Wisconsin with her sister.
    I’ll warn ya’ when they hit the road, so they won’t hit you.

  56. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    Arguing over vodka vs gin is like fighting over light beers. Lemon Hart Demerara or Coruba rum. Once you go black..

  57. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Business in South Korea?
    Brace yourself.

  58. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #61 Tedtam
    Warn us all, please. 🙂

  59. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    If you have to threaten Docs about the conditions in the detainment/processing centers in the USA with respect to the illegal alien invasion, that is a pretty good sign that you should change your ways.

    HEADLINE:Medical staff warned: Keep your mouths shut about illegal immigrants or face arrest
    “It was a very submissive atmosphere,” the counselor said. “Once you stepped onto the grounds, you abided by their laws – the Brown Shirt laws.”
    She said the workers were stripped of their cellphones and other communication devices. Anyone caught with a phone was immediately fired.
    “Everyone was paranoid,” she said. “The children had more rights than the workers.”
    She said children in the camp had measles, scabies, chicken pox and strep throat as well as mental and emotional issues.
    “It was not a good atmosphere in terms of health,” she said. “I would be talking to children and lice would just be climbing down their hair.”
    A former nurse at the camp told me she was horrified by what she saw.
    “We have so many kids coming in that there was no way to control all of the sickness – all this stuff coming into the country,” she said. “We were very concerned at one point about strep going around the base.”
    Both the counselor and the nurse said their superiors tried to cover up the extent of the illnesses.
    “When they found out the kids had scabies, the charge nurse was adamant – ‘Don’t mention that. Don’t say scabies,’” the nurse recounted. “But everybody knew they had scabies. Some of the workers were very concerned about touching things and picking things up. They asked if they should be concerned, but they were told don’t worry about it.”

    Illegal in almost every sense of the word and it can not continue. Boehner and Co need to grow a wissin spine! I say a pox on the entire GOP establishment for allowing this to get so far out of hand.

  60. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Too bad the US lost to Belgium.
    At least I won’t have to hear one more news anchor say that the country came to a halt to watch a soccer game.

  61. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Looks like Bones and Headshaker are getting hammered with a thunderstorm.

  62. Hamous Avatar

    Pavlov is sitting at a bar, when all of the sudden the phone rings. Pavlov gasps, “Oh crap, I forgot to feed the dogs.”

    How can you tell the difference between a chemist and a plumber? Ask them to pronounce “unionized.”

    An MIT linguistics professor was lecturing his class the other day. “In English,” he said, “a double negative forms a positive. However, in some languages, such as Russian, a double negative remains a negative.
    But there isn’t a single language, not one, in which a double positive can express a negative.”
    A voice from the back of the room piped up, “Yeah, right.”

    A photon checks into a hotel and the bellhop asks him if he has any luggage.
    The photon replies, “No, I’m traveling light.”

  63. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    68
    Man, that workplace of yours must be a frikkin riot.

  64. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Aw now, it sounds nerdishly kewel to me.

  65. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    A man walks into a bar with jumper cables around his neck. The bartender says, “OK, you can stay, but don’t try and start nothin’.”

  66. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Told that one without a scintilla of shame, didya?

  67. squawkbox Avatar

    Shannon
    I am getting desperate here. Ya gotta do Facebook and friend me. Not only did I get unfriended by a whole group of people but kicked out of a Facebook group tuh boot. I mean man I need some Facebook friends stat.
    Heh, these conspiracy theorists hate it when someone does not buy into their junk. Just in case I am way off base…….. Y,all need to nkow that the UN is getting ready to secure our borders so that the American citizens can get used to blue helmets on our soil and then they are going to take our guns and send us all to FEMA camps.

  68. Tedtam Avatar

    Once, in high school, I was eating lunch with 3 friends. One of them hated mayonnaise, and made a big deal about ordering his hamburger without it. When he opened his burger, he exclaimed, “Is that mayonnaise?!” I replied “No, it’s not!”
    It took me about half a second to realize what I’d just said. When I realized the pun, I laughed so hard I could see the tip of my nose jumping. I must have laughed ten full minutes before I could calm down. My friends never got it. They couldn’t understand what I thought was so funny.

  69. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    So, it appears the Texans made the right choice in skipping Johnny. So did the Cowboys. Is he a Broadway Joe wannabe? As I recall, Joe Namath proved himself on the football field before he became Broadway Joe. That was long ago and far away, of course.

  70. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    76
    I quickly looked up Tyrese Gibson on wiki because he must be an important person I should know.

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