Thursday Open Comments

Obamacare strikes again:

Employees of Pennsylvania State University are protesting a new wellness effort that requires them to provide detailed health information or pay penalties that can add up to $1,200 per year.
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The WSJ report adds that Penn State’s program will charge its employees $100 per month, beginning in January, if they and their covered spouses do not complete the health questionnaire and certify that they will have a physical examination. Employees must also obtain biometric screenings, including blood-sugar and cholesterol tests, and body-mass index measurements in order to avoid the penalties.
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According to the WSJ, Penn State’s president, Rodney Erickson, said the mandated program was aimed at reducing costs so that the university could keep the price of tuition down. Healthcare costs at the university are expected to increase 13 percent in 2013-14 from the prior year.
The petition also calls for the end of a plan to charge workers a $100 monthly fee to provide coverage to spouses if the latter are eligible for health insurance through their own employers, and for a $75 per month penalty on smokers.
ObamaCare has increased the size of incentives that employers can link to employees’ health data, but there is no federal cap on penalties tied to other related activities such as completing health questionnaires. From the WSJ:

The Penn State penalties are at the high end, according to polls of employers. A 2012 Mercer survey found that at large employers, the median maximum annual incentive—which could be a reward or a penalty—for filling out a health-risk assessment was $150. However, a handful of employers go much further, according to the National Business Group on Health survey—they yank workers’ coverage altogether if they don’t complete wellness requirements.
The Mercer survey also found that among large employers offering wellness programs, 42% used a financial reward as an incentive, and 15% had a financial penalty. Penn State has said that to structure its program as a reward rather than a penalty, it would have had to inflate employees’ premium charges and then offer a discount to workers, an approach it said was wasn’t “fiscally responsible.”

I believe the first comment mirrors my reaction:

Awesome stuff, couldn’t happen to a nicer group of people. Hey maybe their unions will pick up the tab for these additional expenses?


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  1. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Poetic justice? I saw something on the tube yesterday about how the unions were screaming that the Obama Care would do away with the 40 hour week because of all the companies cutting back on their full time employees to stay under the wire. And they helped vote this A$$clown into office,….be careful what you wish for.
    Mornin’ Gang

  2. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    Obamacare…

    They sow the wind
    and reap the whirlwind.
    The stalk has no head;
    it will produce no flour.
    Were it to yield grain,
    foreigners would swallow it up.

  3. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    Words of wisdom and kindness from the woman who deems herself the next chosen leader of the free world.
    Not safe to repeat at work.

  4. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    I posted this on Lone Star Times in 2010 and readers really enjoyed it. This pilot is also a good writer and every paragraph is worthy of quoting.
    Gerard Vanderleun has published it again with a couple of superb aviation videos.

    The SR-71 served six presidents, protecting America for a quarter of a century. Unbeknownst to most of the country, the plane flew over North Vietnam , Red China, North Korea , the Middle East, South Africa , Cuba , Nicaragua , Iran , Libya , and the Falkland Islands . On a weekly basis, the SR-71 kept watch over every Soviet nuclear submarine and mobile missile site, and all of their troop movements. It was a key factor in winning the Cold War.
    I am proud to say I flew about 500 hours in this aircraft. I knew her well. She gave way to no plane, proudly dragging her sonic boom through enemy backyards with great impunity. She defeated every missile, outran every MiG, and always brought us home. In the first 100 years of manned flight, no aircraft was more remarkable.

  5. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Good morning Hamsters. Absolutely gorgeous almost full Moon graced the walk down the driveway to fetch the paper. She was still casting faint shadows. What a treat to have her so exquisite for several days running. Coolish 73 at 6, and more promises from the weather folks about rain today since they missed it yesterday.
    So the Saudis are sending aid to the Egyptian generals as are several other countries in the Middle East. And the Russkies are right there to fill in the blank that is Obama, aka Ethelred the Unready. Obama’s delusional Arab Spring comes home to bite him–and us regrettably–in the behind. Except he doesn’t know or care or admit he’s responsible. The Republicans did it. Same for foul-mouth Hillary.

  6. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Gad. We aren’t paying for it, Brad.

  7. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Good morning, Hamsterville. Google has a long animated tribute to Debussy, to the melody of Clair de Lune, playing this morning. I didn’t recognize the music and watched the whole thing, thinking it was a tribute to old-timey transportation methods.
    🙂

  8. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #2 Texpat

    foreigners would swallow it up

    Is that all the illegals clogging the ER?

  9. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #3 Tim
    I had no idea there was a strip of deforested land to mark the border between US and Canada. But it is clearly visible zoomed in on Google maps.

  10. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #5 TP: I posted that (somewhat sanitized) in its entirety a couple of days ago.

  11. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #12 mharper42
    The woodsy creatures don’t need passports. 🙂

  12. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    The woodsy creatures don’t need passports. 🙂

    What about one of these?

  13. Katfish Avatar

    #3 – wow a tough gig to survey a “straight line” with 19th century lack of technology eh?
    #4 – ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  14. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #6 TP: one of the comments from your linkie:

    The Blackbird is a reminder of what we once were. We are now a mulatto in Mom Jeans on a nerd bicycle wearing a dork helmet.

  15. Hamous Avatar

    Gad. We aren’t paying for it, Brad.

    Fitty bucks says we do.

  16. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #18:
    I got through 4-5 screens worth of the liar’s drivel and had to stop to prevent damage to my screen. One lie after another all with the fig leaf that we are preventing global warming when the reality is absolute control of the masses. I guess the fact that global temperatures have remained flat over the last 15 years is irrelevant, even in the face of rising CO2 levels. When is the linkage between atmospheric CO2 and increasing global temperatures going to be proven to the masses to be the lie that it is? What is going to happen to all the gorebullwarmongers when the facts on the ground become to obvious to ignore?

  17. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    subscript still does not work on this machine, dammit!

  18. Hamous Avatar

    It’s not the machine, it’s wordpress. Only authors can use it right now. I can go into the code and fix it but, frankly, it’s not real high on my priority list these days.

  19. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    I guess I’ll just continue here as chopped liver or sumptin . . .
    Meanwhile, back to reality:
    Thanks for keeping the site up so we can vent and share.

  20. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I wonder what the correlation coefficient is? Looks like it should be pretty tiny.

  21. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    If you examine this closely, it appears that temperature is a leading indicator of CO2 level:

  22. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Noted National Security expert Stephanie Germanotta is devastated over the Bradley Chelsea Manning verdict.

  23. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    The letter is stunning. According to Delta, in 2014 Obamacare will cost the company at least $38 million in direct costs and that is only the beginning. With added medical inflation, Delta claims “the cost of providing health care to our employees will increase by nearly $100,000,000 next year.” A $100 million increase thanks in large part to Obamacare and ancillary cost increases derived therefrom. Yes, I have the letter. From the letter:

    http://www.redstate.com/2013/08/21/delta-airlines-and-the-100-million-costs-of-obamacare/

  24. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Drudge headline says desperate retailers are starting christmas sales.
    I couldn’t believe it when this morning I heard an Anne’s Fine Gifts ad on the radio.
    I don’t recall her doing it so early, before.

  25. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Surely today’s Drudge headlines are the biggest freak show I’ve ever seen.

  26. lovelydaughter Avatar
    lovelydaughter

    AB’s company health insurance started a similar program a few years ago like the Penn state one, it was listed as “optional” and it would “save us money”. I told AB it sounded a little fishy but he did it anyway.
    He was supposed to fast before the exam and “forgot” to, so his status listed him as a 40 year old over weight guy because he forgot to fast and I made bacon that morning. So he learned after the fact, that in order to keep the “savings” (which ended up just being the same rate and everyone else’s rate would increase) he would have to do this yearly and continually improve his health. What if he came out to be in perfect health? We would have been screwed because he would have to loose 5 pounds that he doesn’t need to loose. AB is one of those that has fought to gain weight, lucky son of a wiss…
    And on top of that, last year the exam was the same time he had to be in California for a month, so the insurance made us pay for the bill that they should have picked up for since it was explained that it would be a free exam.
    I don’t trust these programs.

  27. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Comment on #29:

    It’s all rotten, no good lousy ice as opposed to the wonderful pristine ice of yesteryear.

    🙂

  28. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    This Homeland Security Employee Is Preparing for a Coming Race War!

    A Department of Homeland Security employee who works on, among other things, the procurement of guns and ammunition for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, spends his nights and weekends preparing for a coming race war and advocating for anti-gay causes, according to a new report from the Southern Poverty Law Center. Meet Ayo Kimathi, a.k.a. “the Irritated Genie,” who told his bosses at the DHS that his anti-white, anti-gay site, “War is on the Horizon,” was just an entertainment site that sells concert and lecture videos.
    You see, DHS employees, even those with office jobs like Kimathi’s, have to get outside activities approved by their supervisors, according to the SPLC. Kimathi’s former supervisor told the watchdog group, which tracks hate speech and groups in the U.S., that despite her former employee’s banal description of his extracurricular activities, the actual content of the site left her “stunned.” She continued: “To see the hate, to know that he is a federal employee, it bothered me.” She added that had Kimathi’s site been accurately described to the agency, there’s no way the DHS would have signed off on it. Possibly to keep his bosses from looking up his work, Kimathi used only the site’s acronym, WOH, in his permission request. In addition to his involvement in the purchase of ICE supplies, Kimathi also had a public profile for the agency, speaking at vendor events. As “Irritated Genie,” Kimathi also has a public profile as a black supremacist advocate.
    Update: ICE’s Deputy Press Secretary Gillian Christensen responded in a statement to this story:
    ICE does not condone any type of hateful rhetoric or advocacy of violence of any kind against anyone. Every ICE employee is held to the highest standard of professional and ethical conduct. Accusations of misconduct are investigated thoroughly and if substantiated, appropriate action is taken.

  29. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Ruger Creates 450 New Jobs in North Carolina.
    Sturm, Ruger & Company, Inc. will establish a new manufacturing facility in Rockingham County where over 450 new jobs will be created by the end of 2017.
    By NRA Staff (RSS)
    August 15, 2013

  30. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #30 Shannon

    Surely today’s Drudge headlines are the biggest freak show I’ve ever seen.

    Oh yes. Everything warped is there today, except Wiener.

  31. Hamous Avatar

    Funny comment thread on the Bradley Manning revelation:

    Maybe Manning could be hung by the nuts until they fall off.

    Maybe we should put you in charge of the retarded 5 year olds, so you have someone you can relate to?

    “Retarded” is no longer politically correct you knuckle-dragger. Sophisticated people say “Democrat” now.

  32. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    But I hadn’t noticed this Drudge headline:

    Dentist launches quest to clone John Lennon using tooth DNA…

    🙂

  33. Hamous Avatar

    Another one:

    Why a woman? I’d ask to serve my times as a dog or a cat. Then i’d be out in 5 years..

  34. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #26 Pyro: Innanet winner of a comment:

    There are a lot of “burning questions” about Ms Gaga, but they all center around STDs.

  35. Tedtam Avatar

    OH4 starts on Monday. No conversion necessary – she says she grew up with talk radio.

  36. TexMo Avatar
    TexMo

    RE Thurs Open Comments Story
    Penn State has a marketing problem. They need to turn the coin over like my company has done. They tell you up front that if you do not participate in the biometric screening process that your premiums will go up by this much. If you DO participate, then you will get a DISCOUNT of this much.
    The move by UPS to stop covering spouses does not bode well for those of us in corporate America. There are plenty of of entrepreneurs who have a spouse that work for a large corporation primarily for the health benefits. Of course why am I worried? All of those folks can march on down to their state/fed exchange and sign up pronto! No problems here… move along!

  37. TexMo Avatar
    TexMo

    I saw earlier this week that Super Dave and I both receive our bi-weekly sustenance from ol’ Joe. I am currently working out of a satellite office so I am not too far from the office in Clear Lake.

  38. Sarge Avatar

    I hope this sumbiotch gets bounced so frikkin high it takes him a year to come back down.

  39. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    We’re in the midst of the Civil War Sesquicentennial.
    I sorely regret I never got around to reading a host of books covering the period.
    George Weigel has some fine suggestions.

  40. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I tried.
    But after reading the transcript, I just can’t get too excited about Dewhurst’s call.
    No big deal.
    There’s better ammo to be used against him.

  41. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    The U.S. Justice Department announced Thursday that it will challenge Texas’s Voter ID law, saying it violates the Voting Rights Act, as well as the Constitution’s 14th and 15th Amendments.
    In a separate case, the Justice Department will also join in a challenge to the state’s GOP-drawn redistricting plans.
    -today’s Washington Post

  42. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    My my how times they are a changin. Tom Coburn is now on board to call a constitutional convention.

  43. Hamous Avatar

    Looks like the jury in the Fort Hood terrorist trial might already have a verdict. Fox is reporting they have given a 30 minute recall notice.

  44. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Rats, looks like my rain chances totally vanished for today. Glad I hauled water to my adopted oak this morning, on my way to other errands.

  45. Hamous Avatar

    False alarm. Jury just had a couple of questions.

  46. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    How could the jury come to any other conclusion than GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS? As far as the punishment phase goes, how can they come to any other just punishment than death by firing squad to be carried out before the end of the year?

  47. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Testing, one two…

  48. Tedtam Avatar

    Just for Sarge.
    You know, in case he doesn’t know everything about camping.

  49. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Bwa Haha Ha!

    Make grilled sandwiches with this campfire panini press.

    I can definitely see Sarge and Scout the Wonder Dog hiking in with such an implement.
    🙂

  50. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    WWII vet, beaten by teens outside Eagles Lodge, dies.
    Notice that the headline leaves OUT the FACT that the THUGS WERE BLACK!!!….~ SPITS!

    SPOKANE, Wash.
    WWII veteran Delbert Belton survived being wounded in action during the Battle of Okinawa only to be beaten and left for dead by two teens at the Eagles Lodge in Spokane on Wednesday evening.
    Belton, 88, succumbed to his injuries Thursday morning at Sacred Heart Medical Center.
    Witnesses say Belton was in the parking lot of the Eagles Lodge at 6410 N. Lidgerwood, adjacent to the Eagles Ice-A-Rena, around 8 p.m. Wednesday when the two male suspects attacked him as he was about to head inside to play pool.
    Police responded with K-9s to track the suspects’ scent but were not able to locate them.
    “It does appear random. He was in the parking lot, it appears he was assaulted in the parking lot and there was no indication that he would have known these people prior to the assault,” Spokane Police Major Crimes Detective Lieutenant Mark Griffiths said.
    Belton died from his injuries Thursday morning at Sacred Heart Medical Center.
    “Shorty,” as he was known by his friends at the Eagles Lodge, served in the U.S. Army in the Pacific during WWII and was shot in the leg during the Battle of Okinawa. He went on to work at Kaiser Aluminum at the company’s Trentwood plant for more than 30 years. Belton’s wife passed away several years ago.
    He loved playing pool, even though he claimed he was no good at it and had been a member of the Eagles Lodge for the last four months. In addition to playing pool he loved working on cars.
    Shorty was Ted Denison’s best friend of 23 years; the two played pool occasionally and worked on cars daily.
    “He was always there for me when I needed him,” Denison said. “We’d joke back and forth. We were always having fun, some sort of fun.”
    He was the kind of nice old man who’d become your friend in minutes.
    “Probably every time I come into town, he’d have a project for me to do,” Denison said. “I thought of him more as a dad than I did a friend really.”
    Now, with the suspects still at large and the Spokane Police Department working to track them down, Shorty’s friends are hoping for justice.
    “I don’t understand how somebody could do this. I really don’t,” Denison said.
    Spokane police are looking for two male suspects in the attack. They said the suspects are African Americans between 16 and 19 years old. One suspect was described as heavy set and wearing all black clothing. The other was described as being about 6 feet tall and 150 pounds. There was no description of what clothing the second suspect was wearing other than a silk do-rag.
    Police investigating the deadly attack on Belton have also obtained surveillance footage from the scene. Click this link to see still images of the two suspects in the attack.

  51. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    White House to go behind closed doors to discuss bisexual issues…
    Sounds like Bronco is coming out. I’m sure he wants to be our first bisexual Preezy.

  52. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #58 Shannon
    I went to your link, which was a story I had already noticed but not read as it didn’t seem to apply to me. My attention was drawn to an edge ad for men’s shoes that were very pointy-toed and foppish. I thought men wore sensible shoes. Ya know, where the shape of the shoe sort of matches the shape of the foot.

  53. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Euros will wear anything.

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