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  1. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Dang did we have a party last night or what.
    I don’t think Tedtam was happy about it.
    Mornin’ Gang
    oh, and First!

  2. TexMo Avatar
    TexMo

    I missed a party? 🙁

  3. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Yes you did TexMo, but you’re just in time to help clean up. Here, give me a hand moving Katfish to the living room …. oh what is that?

  4. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I spent all night long laying in my hammock listening to songs like this.

  5. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Odd thing is, I know a couple of wimmins who already have six of these.

  6. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Ace has added a comics section this morning.

  7. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #5 sarge
    Next, they’re gonna add crazy cat lady to Clue.

  8. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Think the azycray auntay figured out who was at the artypay?

  9. Hamous Avatar

    #6 Either yesterday or day before I watched “the panel” on Special Report discuss Rove and his plan to marginalize Tea Party candidates. I would have expected Bill Kristol to come down on the side of Rove but surprisingly he was downright angry about the whole movement against Tea Party candidates, pointing out it was them that won back the House in 2010.

  10. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Bloody Mary, anyone?

  11. Katfish Avatar

    *scratchburpYAWWWWN* – ok who’s makin the Bloody Marys????? 🙂

  12. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    But the problem with Rove’s easy solution — which is reliant on new candidates, not new ideas — isn’t just that it’s blithely unaware of its own past shortcomings, or that it will likely rely on the same old-guard apparatus that felled conservatives in 2012. It’s that its stated mission is startlingly defeatist.
    Crossroads President Steven Law offered this obtuse description of the new group’s objectives: “We want to pick the most conservative candidate who can win.”
    First, this begs the obvious question: What was the strategy before, if not to pick conservative candidates who can win?

    Oooo. Ooooo. Pick me! Pick me!
    It was about collecting a lot of money and paying consultants, media types, and pundit shills who only cared about the checks because they make money whether they win or not. Chosen because of their connections, not because they’ve delivered results in the past, and especially not because of thier ideology. This is politics, man. Ideology isn’t relevant.

    There is now an out-in-the-open civil war within the Republican Party, and most of the grassroots patriots I talk to are just fine with that. The GOP establishment is so hated by its own base that increasingly more and more of its grassroots have decided they might be better off with Democrats in charge rather than Rove’s kind of milquetoast, John Boehner-type of Republican. In an all-out fight for freedom and liberty these types of Republicans have proven to be about as useful as lipstick on a pig.
    At least when the Democrats are shredding the Constitution, and imposing more statism destined to catapult this republic “forward” into bankruptcy, it’s easier to recruit the next Ted Cruz or the next generation of Jim DeMints. Nothing stifles the GOP grassroots more than the GOP establishment. Look no further than the 2012 election for evidence of this. Mitt Romney did what he needed to do with independents to win, but actually did a poorer job than John McCain did in 2008 of energizing his own party.

    The parasites didn’t win. Romney lost, and he lost because he wasn’t a Conservative.

    But that’s what Rove and his ilk want. They’re always willing to do things to those of us in the grassroots they’d never do to Democrats, because in the end these people want to pillage and plunder the public trough every bit as much as the Democrats do. They just want the check from the U.S. Treasury made out to their cronies instead. The leadership of the Democratic Party wants to run a country. The leadership of the Republican Party wants to run a party. They would rather lose elections than lose control of the party to us.

  13. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    *scratchburpYAWWWWN* – ok who’s makin the Bloody Marys?????

    It’s aaaaaaalllllllliiiiiiivvvvvvvvveeeeeee…

  14. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Bloody Mary’s are ok, but Caesar‘s are better.
    ‘Specially if’n you sub a dill pickle spear for the celery and add a coupla shrimps on one of those plastic swords.

  15. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Last night’s fantasy party was a real – well, riot. 🙂
    Woulda been a lot funnier if Tedtam had gotten home earlier, while her Dome-Home was still full of riotous bad boys. Catching them in the act, ah yes…

  16. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Which one of you people was mooning the police helicopter?

  17. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Yah.
    Somebody hacked my account last night and posted all sorts of stuff. Good thing they didn’t tweet the pictures.

  18. Hamous Avatar

    The parasites didn’t win. Romney lost, and he lost because he wasn’t a Conservative.

    If there’s an election, and someone loses, it stands to reason that someone else wins. That would be the parasites. We can debate the reasons why RMoney lost and why Obama won but there’s no arguing the outcome. The parasites won.

  19. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    If there’s an election, and someone loses, it stands to reason that someone wins. That would be the parasites. We can debate on reasons why RMoney lost and why Obama won but there’s no arguing the outcome. The parasites won.

    The context in which you use the phrase is to imply that the “win” was everlasting and overpowering to the extent that there is absolutley nothing we can do to reverse it. We just need to go along with it in order to hasten the inevitable end. A view which does accomodate the aims of both the Democrats and the Establishment Republicans.
    A more realistic view is that the Republicans lost because their candidate sucked dead birds and the people running the show were as inept and corrupt as they’ve always been.
    In that context, it should be fairly easy to reverse the results of the election, especially when one looks at State Houses across the country.
    The parasites did not win. The Establishment Republican Party lost.
    All it takes is for everyday Conservatives and Republicans to admit to that and then go about fixing an emminently fixable problem.

  20. Hamous Avatar

    The Kristol panel I was talking about:

  21. Hamous Avatar

    Whatever, Sarge. I’m not joining your circuitous tug today.

  22. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    There’s hope.
    80 years and they haven’t killed each other yet.

  23. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    23 Hamous says:
    February 7, 2013 at 8:09 am
    Whatever, Sarge. I’m not joining your circuitous tug today.

    Good. That’s progress.
    Now.
    Pick a side and get to work.

  24. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I don’t think Rove and the boys like anyone in the media, including Bill Cristol.

  25. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    American Digest has this up today. Sad, but true.
    http://americandigest.org/

    1. Somewhere in this great land a concerned and responsible corporation is having their twice weekly colorful and compelling advertising supplement printed on 100% recycled paper.
    2. As soon as they are completed millions of these colorful and compelling 100% recyclable advertising supplements are shipped by truck to the various regional receiving centers of the U. S. Post Office.
    3. From those centers, any number of allocated pallets of these colorful and compelling 100% recyclable advertising supplements are broken out, put on U.S. post office trucks and delivered to local postal carrier destinations inside Seattle.
    4. My postal carrier and hundreds of others report for work at local postal carrier centers throughout Seattle, and load up their vans with enough of these colorful and compelling 100% recyclable advertising supplements to deliver one or more to each and every house on their route.
    5. My very polite postal carrier parks her van at the end of my block and loads her sack with these colorful and compelling 100% recyclable advertising supplements.
    6. She comes up my walk, up the porch stairs, and deposits my full share of these colorful and compelling 100% recyclable advertising supplements into my mailbox with a clang every day between one and three in the afternoon.
    7. Hearing the clang I wend my weary way to the front door and open my mailbox and pluck out said colorful and compelling 100% recyclable advertising supplements.
    8. With a sigh I go back in, trudge through my house, out my back door to the alley, and place the colorful and compelling 100% recyclable advertising supplements into my Recycling bin.
    9. Tomorrow the huge, lumbering Seattle Recycling garbage truck will stop and empty my Recycling bin into its maw and haul what is in it off to the Seattle Recycling center.
    10. The collected colorful and compelling 100% recyclable advertising supplements will then be shipped, by truck, to the center for turning recyclable paper into….. recycled paper which will then be used by a concerned and responsible corporation for their twice weekly colorful and compelling advertising supplements printed on 100% recycled paper.
    Wash. Rinse. Repeat. Next year postage will increase because the U.S. Postal “Service” will need more money to keep this thing going.
    ——————————————————————————–

  26. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Edddd Hendee was speaking high praises of the drone strikes against terrorists, including Americans. While I applaud the strikes and would like to see more of them, particularly in places like Gaza, I am also very wary of the precedent. There used to be a law that stated we could not assassinate a foreign leader of another state. Now, it appears that all that is required is for POTUS to “determine” that said foreign leader is actually a terrorist in order to put him on the kill list.
    Here is the scenario that really scares me: How big of a leap would it take for them to use the same logic to justify drone (or manned aircraft or whatever) strikes against known terrorists targets composed of non-citizens (Al Queerda and their associated groups) within the borders of the USofA? They will put a fig leaf on the actions stating that these people are at war with the US Govt, therefore they are legitimate targets for warlike actions against them. Now comes the really scary part: what is to stop a rogue admin, like our current one who enjoys full cover from the LSM, academia, Hollyweird, etc, from declaring the NRA membership or the T-Party members terrorists? Remember, they won’t start off declaring war against the T-Party and start killing them because that would be too big of a step, they will be incremental in the approach and start off killing the genuine terrorists within the borders of the USofA and go on from there.
    The scenario of using the same tactics within the US are not so far fetched as they are practicing here now.

  27. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #27 texanadian
    The saddest part is that those “colorful and compelling 100% recyclable advertising supplements” are the only things keeping the USPS afloat without charging an arm and a leg to mail actual letters & parcels.
    I wonder what would happen if they jacked up the rates on “colorful and compelling 100% recyclable advertising supplements”?

  28. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #27, 29: I saw a piece on one of the news magazine shows several years ago where this guy got himself put on every junk mail list he could. The post office would deliver this combustible paper to his house and he would then burn it in a highly efficient catalytic stove to heat the house and never have to pay for the paper. If I recall, what the post office brought to his house for free (to him) was almost enough to heat the house for the winter and I think he lived in the mountains of CO or something so heating costs are a consideration.

  29. Hamous Avatar

    Good. That’s progress.
    Now.
    Pick a side and get to work.

    Piss off you condescending plick.

  30. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Sorry I missed the par-tay last night in the dome, I was busy installing a new dishwasher. I can’t believe y’all didn’t get around to playing inside stickball with a broom handle and a wad of duct tape; y’all just don’t know how to have fun.

  31. Tedtam Avatar

    By the time I got in last night, I was too whupped to notice what was going on.
    I am NOT happy!
    Somebody needs to take those damn lights down, it ain’t Christmas.
    Who the heck moved my dirt? And why is my tofu stuck to the ceiling?
    My neighbors are all wissed off at me because of the @#%! drag racing last night, and I have notice to appear at the police station for a “conversation”.
    The cat has been traumatized and won’t come out of her room. Thanks for that, by the way.
    And what is that stain on the couch. Wait, don’t tell me. I don’t want to know.
    And there’s this strange boob laying on the floor upstairs. There’s a bolt in it. What’s up with that?

  32. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    plick.

    the word a Chinese guy hollers when he gets cut off in traffic.

  33. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I can’t believe y’all didn’t get around to playing inside stickball with a broom handle and a wad of duct tape; y’all just don’t know how to have fun.

    Dancin’ girls took up too much room.

  34. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    And why is my tofu stuck to the ceiling?

    We missed a chunk when we buried the rest???
    Musta been the cat before it “vanished”.

  35. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    In keeping with the O/C theme: here are lots of reasons to stay away from Meth. Note the despair and lifelessness in the eyes, meth has stolen their souls.

  36. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Yeah but the new little TV is mounted on the bathroom wall where it’ll do some good.

  37. Tedtam Avatar

    Actually, we wanted a tv in the bathroom. But the upstairs master bath, not the powder bath. Now I’ll NEVER get people out of there!
    But it would be convenient to have the TV and the toilet close together, in case someone decides to watch CNN or C-SPAN.

  38. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I thought the trapezes at the top of the dome was a nice touch.
    That one girl is certainly multi-talented.

  39. Tedtam Avatar

    Is that her boob I found upstairs?

  40. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    So, how did the the Holy Spirit lesson go? I really would have liked to have been there for that one but I had a previous engagement.
    /hiccup

  41. Tedtam Avatar

    #42 Shannon
    First:
    /GLARE
    Second:
    I had no bouncers last night. Trying to set up the room, check in the students, collect retreat money, hand out retreat forms (for the third time, /sigh), teach the lesson, keep them quiet, check them out, talk to parents, count up money and record the payments to turn in after class… no wonder I was tahred when I got home. That, and the fact that I didn’t sleep well the night before…

  42. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    inside stickball

    When I was a teenager, my father and I used to chip golf balls in the house. Sometimes we would chip over the couch to the pillar on the spiral stair case. Great practice at calming the nerves and yes, on occasion there was an incident; mom would glare but not say anything because dad was doing it too:>)

  43. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    So I guess it is good news that the riot was merely a virtual par-tay? No cleanup required in the real world.
    🙂

  44. Tedtam Avatar

    Yeah, well, tell that to the cat.

  45. Tedtam Avatar

    And I’m still waiting for some to collect that bolt-on boob. I don’t want Hubby getting any ideas about turning me into that prostitute from Total Recall.
    WARNING: BARE BOOBS

  46. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    A coming crisis?

    We’re going to need coordinated efforts for this upcoming epidemic,” says lead author Jennifer Weuve, assistant professor of medicine at Rush Institute for Healthy Aging in Chicago. “People have trouble getting their heads around these numbers, but imagine if everyone in the state of Illinois (population 12.8 million) had Alzheimer’s. I look around Chicago and can’t imagine it.”

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/02/06/alzheimers-dementia-epidemic-numbers-to-triple/1881151/

  47. Katfish Avatar

    ………that tofu sure does hold that little TV to the bathroom wall well eh? 🙂

  48. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #48: A B(o)(o)(o)B trifecta!

  49. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #50 katfish
    Only thing it might be good for.

  50. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Only thing it might be good for.

    fish bait?

  51. Tedtam Avatar

    Yeah, well, now that you’ve taken my therapeutic dirt pile away, y’all might wanna jes’ watch yourselves….
    Just sayin’.

  52. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    fish bait?

    Even fish know not to go near that stuff.

  53. Tedtam Avatar

    Photoshop trolling.
    It just took this guy too long to catch on.

  54. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    See now, yuh guys done started a turf war! TT will be watchin’ for yuh to announce here that you is goin’ out for a spaghetti dinner, then she will sneak into yer digs and do some mischief.

  55. Tedtam Avatar

    Jesus did say the childlike will enter Heaven. I guess they can solve problems, too.

  56. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #57 TT: It appears that the photoshop team member in question was not exactly feeling the love that day. Made me laugh out loud.

  57. Tedtam Avatar

    And for those of you who are into multiple personality disorder, or bipolarism, etc., remember that Hammy has http://crazycrackersontheright.com waiting for you as well!

  58. Katfish Avatar

    #58 – the anti intruder system at Chez Katfish might not be too entertaining (not to mention the entire family of Cops that live next door…………..jus sayin
    (boy have I got them fooled!! 🙂 )

  59. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #59: Took me about 4 minutes.

  60. Tedtam Avatar

    I’m just going to throw that extra bolt-on boob away. It’s creeping me out.
    It’s like it’s staring at me.

  61. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    I’m just going to throw that extra bolt-on boob away.

    Why dontcha simply bolt it on and see how long it takes DH to notice?

  62. Tedtam Avatar

    #65 Boney

    Why dontcha simply bolt it on and see how long it takes DH to notice?

    Because either way, I lose.
    If he notices it right away, I’ll never get any work done.
    And if he doesn’t notice it…..

  63. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    “The fiscal crisis caused by pension underfunding in Illinois is so bad that some hospitals wait a year to be paid by the state for insurance claims. At the same time, teachers in Chicago’s wealthy suburbs are retiring with six-figure salaries set by school districts on which pensions are calculated, and the state pays the bill. The benefits cannot be reduced, according to the state constitution. Illinois’ pension systems are in the worst financial shape of any state at 39 percent funded when no less than 80 percent is considered healthy. State pensions are in the hole by the staggering amount of nearly $97 billion, or $20,000 per Illinois household and nearly four times the annual state revenue.”

  64. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Piss off you condescending plick.

    Whatever it takes to get you from being this guy to being more like this guy and get rid of these guys and get the parasites back to where they were before folks like them took over the Republican Party.

  65. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    post in the bucket

  66. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #22 Hamous, dang, ole moderate Bill Kristol is on the side of the tea party?!

  67. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #68 Shannon: This is the perfect example of why unions must be barred from civil service. The union TNs rally their troops to get polititerd Scuzball elected with the conditions that he give generous salary, work rules, and pension benefits to all the unionized civil service employees. The CS employees then have to pay dues to the union, which is a percentage of the inflated salaries, these dues are then plowed into the next election to get Scuzball and others like him elected/re-elected; with a sizeable portion siphoned off for absurdly high Union Official employment. These monies are (I think) tax deductible for the employee yet the unions themselves are tax exempt. The net result is that the taxpayer pays ever increasing salaries for CS employees, absurdly generous pension benefits and gets less service for his increased tax burden. Eventually the system collapses on its non-sustainable fat butt and the city goes bankrupt, the bond holders for the debt the city generates get screwed but the union terds still get those big fat checks until the doors close and they are never held accountable. The blame gets pushed on “the rich not paying their fair share” and BS arguments like “we can’t cut our way to prosperity” are trotted out and amplified by the slimey LSM.

  68. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    71 Super Dave says:
    February 7, 2013 at 11:43 am
    #22 Hamous, dang, ole moderate Bill Kristol is on the side of the tea party?!

    Kristol knows where the money will be coming from in the future.

  69. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Hillary Clinton 2016!!!

    “Why didn’t you put forces in place to be ready to respond?,” Senator John McCain asked the general.
    Dempsey started, “Because we never received a request to do so, number one. And number two, we –”
    McCain iterrupted, “You never heard of Ambassador Stevens’s repeated warnings?”
    “I had, through General Ham,” responded Dempsey, referring to the commander of AFRICOM. “But we never received a request for support from the State Department, which would have allowed us to put forces–”
    “So it’s the State Department’s fault?”
    “I’m not blaming the State Department,” Dempsey responded.

    General on Benghazi: ‘We Never Received a Request for Support from the State Department’

  70. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    I think Edd Hindee was playing a little child psychology on Dan Patrick this morning. Evidently something is in the news about the Houston Sports Authority and the city getting in a little bind over the stadium bonds. Edd had Dan on reminiscing about the fight back then over the vote, the I told you so’s and all that. Edd was just way over the top praising Dan being the ONLY voice agin it – I think reminding Danno what a good wittle conswervative he USED to be.

  71. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Sarge #21;

    the Republicans lost because their candidate sucked dead birds

    Don’t you mean he baptized them?
    (OK, that did NOT please the Almighty I know, but I couldn’t resist..my flesh is weak)
    This is my view and I do not want to take this further with you beyond this one post.
    Romney was conservative. There is no way you can show him not being a conservative beased on what he campaigned on. Yes, there are some less than conservative points but overall it was a conservatve campaign based on conservative ideas and beliefs. What Mitt Romney isnot is a conservative idealogue therefore he is not reliable to fall back to conservative principles when making his decisions. This aspect of Mitt Romney, justifiably, concerned conservative voters, including many tea partiers but no one can rationally say he was not a conservative candidate. He was pro kill the jihadis, pro ecomonic growth by getting federal regulations away from businesses and reducing their tax burdern, pro life (his wife would have been the first pro life first lady in our history since Roe v Wade), and very much favored the states to make healthcare decisions over that of the federal government. It wasn’t not being a conservative candidate, just the fact that Mitt Romney is not a conservative ideologue which made many conservative voters reluctant to vote for him.
    While things like Romney not being aggressive enough to counter and go after Obama has merit I think ultimately we saw community organizing out do business organizing. Te federal government assured that the states will not prevent voter fraud by obligating voter I.D. and the Obama campaign made the right moves to get the stupid low information voters come out. I’d even include Obama’s appearance on Nickelodean. Imagine the kids and their stupid low informed parents rushing out to support Obama just because they saw him on a kid’s show. That does have an impact to the person who took the time to apear on television for kids. In the end, the ecomonics of freebees, which is the Republican argument to lose, not being feesible, did not work. Times are hard and people chose to get help from Obama. They did so while depicting Romney as a threat to their “rights”. I mean, Romney even killed people by being a vulture capitalist, right?
    Anyhow, that’s that. Take it for what it’s worth.

  72. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Sarge #69;
    I don’t want Hamous to be more like a dead person, do you?

  73. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I wish you guys would find a different dead horse to beat.

  74. Tedtam Avatar

    I printed off last night’s party thread and gave it to Hubby to read.
    Boy, are you guys in trouble now.
    He has a REAL backhoe.

  75. Hamous Avatar

    I wish you guys would find a different dead horse to beat.

    I have.

  76. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    79 Darren says:
    February 7, 2013 at 12:40 pm
    Sarge #69;
    I don’t want Hamous to be more like a dead person, do you?

    Niiiiiiiiiiice

  77. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    To go along with Darren’s #75
    But remember, it doesn’t really matter.

    Panetta: Obama Absent Night of Benghazi
    12:05 PM, Feb 7, 2013 • By DANIEL HALPER
    Defense Secretary Leon Panetta testified this morning on Capitol Hill that President Barack Obama was absent the night four Americans were murdered in Benghazi on September 11, 2012:
    Panetta said that Obama left operational details, including knowledge of what resources were available to help the Americans under seize, “up to us.”
    In fact, Panetta says that the night of 9/11, he did not communicate with a single person at the White House. The attack resulted in the deaths of four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens.
    Panetta said that, save their 5 o’clock prescheduled meeting with the president the day of September 11, Obama did not call or communicate in anyway with the defense secretary that day. There were no calls about the what was going on in Benghazi. He never called to check-in.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/panetta-obama-absent-night-benghazi_700405.html
    And

    No Word from Hillary During Benghazi Attack
    Panetta, Dempsey did not speak to Clinton.
    12:55 PM, Feb 7, 2013 • By MICHAEL WARREN
    Neither the secretary of defense nor the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff spoke to the secretary of state during the 8-hour attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya on September 11, 2012. At a Thursday hearing in the Senate, Republican Ted Cruz asked both Leon Panetta and Martin Dempsey, “In between 9:42 p.m., Benghazi time, when the first attacks started, and 5:15 am, when Mr. Doherty and Mr. Woods lost their lives, what converations did either of you have with Secretary Clinton?”
    “We did not have any conversations with Secretary Clinton,” Panetta responded.
    “And General Dempsey, the same is true for you?” Cruz asked. Dempsey confirmed this. Watch the video below:

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/no-word-hillary-during-benghazi-attack_700410.html

  78. Tedtam Avatar

    I hope we’re able to hang Benghazi around Clinton’s and Obama’s necks like a big, stinking dead horse carcass.
    Not holding my breath, but I’m slightly hopeful.

  79. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Panetta said that, save their 5 o’clock prescheduled meeting with the president the day of September 11, Obama did not call or communicate in anyway with the defense secretary that day. There were no calls about the what was going on in Benghazi. He never called to check-in.

    Obama 2016!!!

  80. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    TT #85;

    Not holding my breath, but I’m slightly hopeful.

    Don’t count on the media to help.

  81. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    87
    The fight over Why Romney Lost has run its course. There is nothing new to add to the debate. Nobody’s mind is going to be changed.

  82. Hamous Avatar

    The fight over Why Romney Lost has run its course. There is nothing new to add to the debate. Nobody’s mind is going to be changed.

    All we need to know is Obama didn’t win.

  83. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #81
    Hope you blacked out the booby stuff, wouldn’t want him to think ill of us.

  84. Tedtam Avatar

    I told him about the running boob stuff. He said “I didn’t know I could talk about boobs like that. I thought I’d get hurt.”
    Yep, my man knows me.
    He has a backhoe, but he never brings it over. My shovel lives by the back door. Always handy.

  85. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    All we need to know is Obama didn’t win.

    Oh, Obama won alright.
    But the parasites didn’t. They weren’t on the ticket.
    But yah, let’s not discsus why the Republicans lost.
    Might hurt somebody’s feelings, and we’d have to get a whole new crew to run the party.

  86. Katfish Avatar

    #81 – pfffffffffffffftftftftftttttttttttttttt we aint a skeered (I bet he likes beer and dancing girls too!)

  87. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Yah. I take it all back.
    Romney was the perfect candidate. The most Conservative candidate we could find that was electable. We know that because we sent millions of dollars to people who are supposed to know that stuff, and it was all money well spent.
    But there were just too many parasites. So, lets run another just like him and pay the same people more money to tell us the same thing.

  88. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    I am quite certain that Heritage for the Blind contracted with Heritage for the Tone-Deaf to do their radio spots and sing their jingle. That is almost as irritating as Matress Mac commercials, and the screamer for the tractor pull and motocross.

  89. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Pucker up, big boy. News anchors sure do have too much time on their hands.
    http://nation.foxnews.com/today-show/2013/02/07/male-anchors-kiss-today-show

  90. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    the horse ain’t just dead, the skeleton left behind has been whipped into dust.

  91. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    But there were just too many parasites. So, lets run another just like him and pay the same people more money to tell us the same thing.

    Barry Goldwater was solidly conservative.

  92. Hamous Avatar

    Time to shut up, Sarge.

  93. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    You’re right Darren.
    If we can’t win with a guy asConservative as Romney was, Conservatism really is a hopeless cause. We just need to give in to the suck and let the parasites take over. Thre is no other alternative.
    We’ll never find another Conservative who is as electable as Romney.

  94. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    We just need to give in to the suck and let the parasites take over. Thre is no other alternative.

    EMBRACE THE SUCK!

  95. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    All fire ants need to die. Right now.

  96. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #104 Shannon: What method have you found to be the most effective?

  97. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Cussing the ones inside my jeans right now hasn’t worked very well.

  98. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    Darren,
    Mit Romney is, I’m sure, a wonderful person. He’s a great family man, an adoring husband, pillar of his church, etc., etc., etc. But along with his presidential campaign speeches (which were indeed consistently conservative) we had to also balance his record as Governor, and things he has said in the past, many of which were not particularly conservative.

  99. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    My favorite method is about 1/4 cup of gasoline right on the mound and that is it; DO NOT LIGHT! The vapors sink and kill the whole mound, eggs, larvae and queen :>)
    A day later you can dig through the mound and see some near the top all twisted because they were writhing in agony; ’tis a beautiful thing.

  100. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #107 Don’t forget he never admitted that RomneyCare was a bad idea, which is why, IMHO, he was defeated.

  101. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    On a completely different topic, I’m really sorry to have missed the party last night. If you guys decide to have another, let me know, I have a 2 quart mason jar full of W.V. moonshine that I’ll bring.

  102. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    But along with his presidential campaign speeches (which were indeed consistently conservative) we had to also balance his record as Governor, and things he has said in the past, many of which were not particularly conservative.

    Yes. He has never been a conservative idealogue. He’s made terrible governatorial decisions in his past and I’ve always been 100% open to ctiricize them. My argument has always been that Mitt Romney as a presidential candidate was a conservative. Just not ideologically.

  103. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    I was going to come over last night but TW (trophey wife) got wind of it and took the keys to my ol john deere. 🙁

  104. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Bonecrusher;

    Don’t forget he never admitted that RomneyCare was a bad idea, which is why, IMHO, he was defeated.

    I think there may be some truth to that but I still say ultimately community organizing out did business organizing. It’s a nation-wide Chicago-style tactic. That should be felt dreadfully.

  105. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    a conservative. Just not ideologically.

    It was an orange. Just not in the fruit sense.

  106. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    He was an orange.
    But when he wanted to be in the salad, he was a cabbage.

  107. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    We’ll send a limo, fat albert. You are welcome to ride along with the shine. 🙂

  108. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Goobernatorial.
    He was a great goober.
    Until he needed to be a walnut.
    Then he was the best walnut anybody could find.

  109. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    If we can’t win with a guy asConservative as Romney was, Conservatism really is a hopeless cause. We just need to give in to the suck and let the parasites take over. Thre is no other alternative.
    We’ll never find another Conservative who is as electable as Romney.

    [I’m going against my own commitment to type the following and that poor horse’s corpse is getting so defiled but, here goes]
    Nobody advocates what you sarcastically said we should do. Of course solid conservatism can win and of course that’s the best win for the country. But your formulation that Mitt Romney lost because he was not a conservative has no merit because a) he was a conservative and b) solid conservatives have lost in the past to solid liberals. Barry Goldwater got pounded in the and, demolished, destroyed, thrashed, slaughtered and he’s a significant reason Republicans are, despite the utter falsehood of it, labeled racist by the libs. While Republicans supported the equal rights protections under federal law, Barry Goldwater opposed it and rightfully so on conservative grounds. Civil rights protections beong to the states, not the federal government. Goldwater’s opposition for equal rights under the might of federal law creamed him in the presidential election.
    My support for Romney began when I knew he’d win the GOP primaries in 2012, and just who won them? It wasn’t the consiiracy theorist, the man who never thought his campaign through, the man who changed his focus everytime a social issue came up, the one who argued the best but could not longer argue against others or for himself, or any others that dropped out early. It was Mitt Romney. Only Rick Santorum would have been considered more conservative than Romney but Santorum was an unsuccessful campaigner.
    After the grueling primaries were over, I had thought anyone who’d win the GOP primaries would win the White House but I was wrong. Now we got 4 years against Obama to face. That’s where we are and that’s where I want to look forward (not forward ass in “oh goodie, this is awesome”) to.

  110. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    We’ll send a limo, fat albert. You are welcome to ride along with the shine.

    Make sure it has a sun roof. He likes sun roofs.

  111. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I went back to yesterday’s post to catch up on why Mr. TedTam’s ready to kick some people’s a$$es. Very funny.

  112. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I got the ice water for the next party. Any takers?

  113. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Gubernatorial

    Thanks. 🙂

  114. Katfish Avatar

    No I’m not “the spelling Nazi”
    (champion 5th grade spelling bee accolades notwithstanding 🙂 )………
    …………I resist a dozen (at least) for every correction I actually type & post…………

  115. Katfish Avatar

    #123 – Ice water? Whaffo?
    OH!™ (gotta be for the wet T shirt contest right?)

  116. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    After the grueling primaries were over, I had thought anyone who’d win the GOP primaries would win the White House but I was wrong. Now we got 4 years against Obama to face. That’s where we are and that’s where I want to look forward (not forward ass in “oh goodie, this is awesome”) to.

    Its not about you being wrong, Darren.
    Its about all the people at the top of the heap in the Republican Party deciding 5 years ago that Romney was going to be the guy who would run who thought they could convince people that he was a Conservative just by repeating it over and over. In the end, he didn’t get as many base voters to come out and vote for him as McCain did. He also had an inept IT staff who didn’t even Beta test his GOTV software, hired because they were cronies rather than basing the hire on experience and knowledge—likely on the advice of guys like Rove. That’s why he lost. We could have won if those McCain voters had come out, even absent the GOTV SNAFU.
    The cost of you being wrong about a candidate is one vote among millions.
    The cost of those guys being wrong is four more years of Obama—and nearly a billion dollars of donations.
    Stop taking this stuff personal. It doesn’t get personal until you make it that way.

  117. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    OH!™ (gotta be for the wet T shirt contest right?)

    I promise to shave my chest before I enter the contest, OK?

  118. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    No I’m not “the spelling Nazi”

    Didn’t think you were but I always appreciate a correction here and there.

  119. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Its not about you being wrong, Darren.

    Got that right. It’s about you being wrong.
    [OK, I’m done.]

  120. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Obama shows no desire to balance religious freedom, other rights

    WASHINGTON — The Obama administration’s latest revision of its contraceptive policy was welcomed by some religious people as a breakthrough, even a “miracle.” Upon reflection, it seems less like the parting of the Red Sea than a parlor trick.
    At issue is whether Obamacare’s broad mandate of insurance coverage for contraceptives, sterilization and abortifacients should apply to institutions with moral objections. For more than a year, the administration has struggled to clarify a set of regulations, while provoking 44 legal challenges.
    To the administration’s credit, it has now abandoned one particularly provocative definition of religious institutions that excluded organizations that employ and serve non-members. In fact, many religious institutions serve non-members precisely because their faith requires generosity to outsiders.
    But the outlines of the mandate remain essentially the same, offering different levels of religious liberty to churches and ministries. An exemption from the mandate still doesn’t reach much beyond the doors of a house of worship — covering only churches, associations of churches and religious orders.
    The accommodation for religious charities, colleges and hospitals is effectively unchanged from the last version. While these institutions aren’t required to pay directly for contraceptive coverage, they are forced to provide insurance that includes such coverage. It is a shell game useful only for those who want to deceive themselves. “The religious institutions are required by the government to give their workers an insurer,” says Yuval Levin of the Ethics and Public Policy Center, “and that insurer is required by the government to give those workers abortive and contraceptive coverage, but somehow these religious employers are supposed to imagine that they’re not giving their workers access to abortive and contraceptive coverage.”

    Obama’s a sneeky devil, ain’t he?
    In our opinion: President Obama’s compromise for contraceptives misses the mark

    President Barack Obama’s proposal to end the controversy over his health care mandate for contraceptive coverage falls short on one important point: It misunderstands the meaning of religious liberty.
    That liberty, enshrined in the Constitution’s First Amendment, protects an individual’s right to freely exercise his or her most deeply held convictions.
    So when the president attempts to compromise with churches and their affiliated organizations by offering to cover their employees’ contraceptive needs without cost to those organizations, it should be small wonder that many of them remain upset.

    Obama’s a clueless sneeky little devil, ain’t he?
    From my man, Dr. Daniel Petersons blog: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeterson/2013/02/mr-obama-the-state-and-religious-freedom.html

  121. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Got that right. It’s about you being wrong.
    [OK, I’m done.]

    Its always nice to finish on a concilliatory note.

  122. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Off work, now.
    Headed home with a new water heater in the back.
    Told ya.
    Wish me luck.

  123. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Don’t make any sharp turns there, Shannon.

  124. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #134 Shannon: Izzit one of those totally cool tankless heaters or a 40 gal disaster in the attic waiting to happen?

  125. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    No attic. Not a tankless.

  126. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    This song seems to take me back centuries in time. A truly haunting melody on a very interesting instrument.

  127. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    No attic. Not a tankless.

    Water heaters in the attic are a disaster waiting to happen and they are a b!tc# to deal with when they crap out.
    If the heater is in the garage and you can get to the connections, replacing one is not such a big deal.
    You may wanna get some help wraslin that thing so you don’t throw your back out again.

  128. Katfish Avatar

    #139 –

    Water heaters in the attic are a disaster waiting to happen

    mmmmmmmmmmmmmmebbe ‘ill-advised’ but not disastrous (besides I know a real good drywall repair guy – aka ME)
    I’ve seen enough swapped out (and helped with a couple) over the years there are a few tricks to lessen the work…………….an attic swap aint no tougher than a basement swap – the trick is USING gravity as opposed to attempting to FIGHT gravity

  129. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Paying someone to do it for you is the way to go.
    This is the last time I’m going to do it myself.
    I swear!!!!!!
    Location is in the master closet. Very tight.
    And the one I bought did not include the connections to screw into the top. So I’m stuck til tomorrow. Just not up to making the fifty mile round trip to Brenham tonight. I can get the nipples in Bellville in the morning….or blow it off til after work.

  130. Katfish Avatar

    #141 – don’t forget the dielectric grease Brother

  131. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    heh heh heh he said “nipples” heh heh heh

  132. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Oh man you beat me to it.

  133. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I swear!!!!!!

    So does Mrs. Darren. She gets real bad at times.
    /I sure do love that woman.

  134. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    I gave up dead horse beatings long ago, but……

    My argument has always been that Mitt Romney as a presidential candidate was a conservative. Just not ideologically

    …is one of the silliest statements I’ve ever heard this side of the KOS kids.

  135. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Annise Parker is a female candidate. Just not biologically.

  136. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    The two problems with this past election:
    1. Mitt Romney didn’t want it. He said so.
    2. The people riding in the cart wanted to keep getting stuff more than the people pulling the cart didn’t want to cough more up.
    Period.

  137. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Annise Parker is a female candidate. Just not biologically.

    But she has comfortable shoes.

  138. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Good evening Hamsters. Quite a recap of last night’s fantasy party at Tedtam’s dome while she was busy educating young’uns in the teachings of their faith.
    Can sympathize with Shannon’s efforts with the water heater installation. Our first house had the water heater in the attic, right above the front bathroom. It leaked, the catch pan overflowed because the discharge pipe was blocked by insulation, and there was this waterfall effect through the moulding above the cabinets. All was repaired in the bathroom and a new heater installed above with great care to remove insulation from anywhere near the catch pan’s rim. So when we built the current home–egad some 33 years ago–the water heater lives in the garage. A small 10-gallon heater resides in a cabient in the master bath to provide hot water until hot water from the garage heater makes it all the way through the attic pipes to the master bath that is at the opposite end of the house. This arrangement has worked well.

  139. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    But those jeans are about to ‘splode

  140. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #138 bone
    String triplet.
    Guitar
    Contrabass Balalaika
    Prima Balalaika

  141. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    She gets real bad [at swearing] at times.

    Especially when she’s mad at me. YIKES!!! 😯

  142. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    It’s the so-called dielectric nipples that weren’t included. I haven’t used that grease before.
    Hmmm.
    Maybe the heaters don’t last long enough around here for that to be a problem.
    If I find some, I’ll use it.

  143. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    …is one of the silliest statements I’ve ever heard this side of the KOS kids

    I don’t want to get into this but what part of Mitt Romney’s campaign wasn’t consevative? He stood for many conservative values but he was not one who would fall back on conservative principles when faced with a decision. (Reagan did but even there you can hardly say that all his decisions were conservative.) Nor would he necessarily preach the conservative line when giving speeches like: government is not the answer, government is the problem, but even there he kinda sorta did regarding owning government for your success.
    Of all the feedback against Mitt Romney I’ve read on this site I’ve yet to recall anyone which outlines how he wasn’t a conservative candidate. If you think you can do so, Tim, go right head.
    http://www.photosensibility.com/photoblog/images/20070922-deadhorse.jpg

  144. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Shannon;
    I got lots of spare baby bottle nipples. Could those help?

  145. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    1. Mitt Romney didn’t want it. He said so.

    I thought his son said it (which doesn’t change your point nor does it mean Romney didn’t say it himself) but, yes, that’s a good point.

  146. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Was it Tedtam who said Breitbart was reported as dangerous? It worked well for me then but right now my Kaspersky anti-virus is blocking it. 🙁

  147. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Current Drudge headlines on society’s current loco crazy hombre man:

    EX-LAPD WANTED IN COP SHOOTINGS…
    Left 20-page manifesto on FACEBOOK…
    Uncensored…
    Supports gun control, Obama and Piers Morgan…
    Wrote online message to Tebow…
    Two innocent women shot by police in manhunt…
    Statewide ‘officer safety alert’ issued…

    Betchya the king lizzard who throws green footballs isn’t reporting on señor psychopath’s love for Obama and gun control.

  148. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    “California has always been a leader on the issue of gun safety,” Villaraigosa said. “New York has stepped up and stepped forward. California needs to answer the call.”
    Among the measures is one that would outlaw the future sale of semi-automatic rifles with detachable magazines. The restriction would prevent quick reloading by requiring bullets to be loaded one at a time.
    Lawmakers also want to make some prohibitions apply to current gun owners, not just to people who buy weapons in the future.
    Like New York, California also would require background checks for buying ammunition and would add to the list of prohibited weapons.

    The Crips are shaking in their British Knights (“Blood Killer”) and the Bloods are quaking in their Columbia Knights (“Crip Killer) I’m sure.
    Calif. seeks to adopt nation’s toughest gun laws
    But, hey, this is so people who *defend* themselves don’t have a gazillion bullets to do so and the hunter won’t unload a million rounds just to kill Bambi.

  149. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    This is following the Supreme Court affirming that the right to bear arms is an individual right. Big government folks will always keep their big government.

  150. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Of all the feedback against Mitt Romney I’ve read on this site I’ve yet to recall anyone which outlines how he wasn’t a conservative candidate. If you think you can do so, Tim, go right head

    Um,…..Romney care?!?!
    FWIW; I voted for him, BUTT NOT in the primary even though it was too late, and even if he was a RINO from the NE he was still 1000 times better than the ” Magic Negro”! 🙁

  151. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    My #162, I remembered something about gun control but couldn’t remember exactly what it was besides the so called “assault weapons”,well here it is. Romney on Gun Control;

    In 1994 Romney pushed some reliably Republican themes, including requiring welfare recipients to work, cracking down on crime, and creating private-sector jobs. But he often strayed from the party plank as he sought to broaden his base of support. He backed two gun-control measures that were strongly opposed by the National Rifle Association: the Brady Law, which imposed a five-day waiting period on gun sales, and a ban on certain assault weapons, saying, “I think they will help.”
    ~
    Find common ground with pro-gun & anti-gun groups
    Q: You signed the nation’s first ban on assault weapons in Massachusetts and steeply increased fees on gun owners by 400%. How can you convince gun owners that you will be an advocate for them?
    ROMNEY: We had a piece of legislation that was crafted both by the pro-gun lobby and the anti-gun lobby. The pro-gun lobby said “this legislation allows us to cross roads with weapons when we’re hunting that had not been previously allowed.” And the day when we announced our signing, we had both the pro-gun owners and anti-gun folks all together on the stage because it worked. We worked together. We found common ground. My view is that we have the second amendment right to bear arms and my view is also that we should not add new legislation. I know that there are people that think we need new laws. I disagree with that. I believe we have in place all the laws we need. We should enforce those laws. I do not believe in new laws restricting gun ownership and gun use.

    There’s a lot more if you’re willing to look and not just be a fan of Romney because he’s a Morman….SIGH 🙁

  152. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    155 Darren says:
    February 7, 2013 at 8:09 pm

    …is one of the silliest statements I’ve ever heard this side of the KOS kids

    I don’t want to get into this but what part of Mitt Romney’s campaign wasn’t consevative?

    Its silly because “running as a Conservative” is a million miles away from “being ideologically Conservative.”
    To quote Quanell the Tenth:
    You can put kittens in the oven, but that don’t make them biscuits.
    The Republicans put a saddle on a duck, then ran him in the Kentucky Derby—now they are saying its our fault because we didn’t yell “Giddy UP!” loud enough.
    Like most Republicans, you think process is the same as success. You value mechanics over actually succeeding in changing anything. You think running as a Conservative is as good as being a Conservative.
    The fact of the matter is, Darren, you just made the case that the biggest problem with Romney is that he wasn’t ideologically Conservative, but he ran as one. So many people saw through that little subterfuge that they stayed home. A guy who will lie to you about what he believes (which is what ideology is), is simply someobdy who will lie about pretty much everything.

  153. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    It’s the so-called dielectric nipples that weren’t included.

    Check with Tedtam. I think she still has that bolt on boob.

  154. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Maybe we shoulda whipped the duck, the horsies seem to like it.

  155. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    166 GJT says:
    February 7, 2013 at 9:23 pm
    Maybe we shoulda whipped the duck, the horsies seem to like it.

    But he was the most Conservative duck that was electable. I can’t figger out what went wrong.

  156. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    So I’m having a Gun Control debate with my Gay Liberal cousin. He’s in California and wants them to institute a requirement for liability insurance for buying a gun.
    I told him it was likely Unconstitutional as SCOTUS ruled in this case that levying a tax as a requirement to exercise a constitutionally guaranteed right ruled so.
    He says, its insurance, not a tax.
    I says:
    “Actually SCOTUS has ruled that requiring citizens to buy insurance is exactly a tax. Bet you guys didn’t see that one coming.”

  157. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #110 FA
    Pssssst: Has anyone been to Albert’s house? Yuh need at least one mischief-maker who has seen the terrain, to make for a convincing virtual online par-tay.
    Say, Albert, are you planning to go out for a long, relaxing spaghetti supper, any time soon?

  158. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #113 Texacan

    I was going to come over last night but TW (trophey wife) got wind of it and took the keys to my ol john deere.

    Oooohhh – a tractor pull.
    Say, is TW planning to go out for a long, relaxing spaghetti supper, any time soon?

  159. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Just whipped myself up a beautiful BLT (that’s BACON) sammich.
    I don’t have Facebook, thought y’all’d like to know.

  160. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    par-tay

    That is soooo 80’s ‘

  161. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    What can I say, it’s like I’m in a time warp or something.

  162. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    You guys stay the he!! away from my house!!!!!!
    I’ll show up for a party, and I’ll bring my jar of WV lightning, I’ll even try to round up a band to play, but NOT at my house. I vote for going back to Tedtam’s. I want to be able to say I went to a party in the dome. :))

  163. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    My argument has always been that Mitt Romney as a presidential candidate was a conservative. Just not ideologically

    Kind of like Obama is middle of the road, just not ideologically.

  164. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    87 mharper42 says:
    February 6, 2013 at 3:44 pm
    This thread will go down in history. The Lord’s Prayer in 7 or 8 languages, and Romper Room on boob talk.

    Was this somewhat prophetic about yesterday’s thread going down in history? That was almost 2 hrs before Tedtam posted her fateful

    I’m hungry. Off I go.

  165. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    fat albert;
    Obama is hardly middle of the road and has never been based on his positions.

  166. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Super Dave;

    Um,…..Romney care?!?!

    Terrible law which destroys lives and drives up the cost of insurance while driving its effectiveness down.
    He opposed doing this on the federal level. Let the states decide the fate of obligining its citienry to buy insurance. How was that a non conservative position?

  167. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Super Dave;

    There’s a lot more if you’re willing to look and not just be a fan of Romney because he’s a Morman….SIGH

    “I don’t know where you get your dellusions from, laser brain.” – Princess Leia
    You didn’t even spell Mormon correctly; so you’re sure you know what you’re talking about when it comes to my beliefs and how I view other Mormons?
    As for gun control, you can find a similar position from Governor Reagan of California, was he not a conservative presidential candidate? What position on gun control did Mitt Romney take during the presidential campaign that made him a morel liberal candidate? Hurry with your response, I got my chest to shave for katfishes’ wet t-shirt contest. He’s excited I’m entering into it.

  168. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    The fact of the matter is, Darren, you just made the case that the biggest problem with Romney is that he wasn’t ideologically Conservative, but he ran as one.

    Yeah, duh. My main point is that he was a conservative but not ideologically. His positions were conservative.
    And, yet, you *still* said nothing as to how Mitt Romney wasn’t a conservative candidate.

  169. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    A guy who will lie to you about what he believ

    Gingrich Co-Sponsored Global Warming Bill That Called for ‘International Agreement on Population Growth’

    (CNSNews.com) – Republican presidential contender Newt Gingrich, as a U.S. House representative from Georgia in 1989, was among the co-sponsors of a sweeping global warming bill that, among other things, called for an international agreement on population growth. Gingrich today, however, says he opposes such a policy and that he supported only a small part of the legislation that promoted hydrogen energy research.
    In an e-mail statement to CNSNews.com, Gingrich’s deputy press secretary, Michelle Selesky, said the former Speaker opposes an international agreement on population growth because “this would be a dangerous violation of sovereignty, and Speaker Gingrich would steadfastly oppose any international efforts to dictate or control population growth in sovereign states.”

    Gee, Sarge, does that mean you did not support a conservative ldealogue? Did you support a liar?
    DANG: I forgot to include the link: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/gingrich-co-sponsored-global-warming-bill-called-international-agreement-population

  170. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    177 Darren says:
    February 7, 2013 at 10:31 pm
    fat albert;
    Obama is hardly middle of the road and has never been based on his positions.

    That’s pretty much exactly what he said when he said:

    Kind of like Obama is middle of the road, just not ideologically.

  171. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Darren;
    Do you even know what “ideologically” means?

  172. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Yeah, duh. My main point is that he was a conservative but not ideologically. His positions were conservative.

    I’ll repeat my question:
    Do you even know what ideologically means?

  173. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    For what it’s worth, I firmly believe Gingrich would have oppsed ant international agreement on population control if he were president and, yes, I very much would have voted for him.

  174. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    What you’re saying is that he took conservative positions, he just didn’t beleive in them.
    And this was a GOOD thing?

    Ideological is an adjective that describes political, cultural, or religious beliefs. An ideology is a body of ideas, and those who agree with the main idea of something take an ideological stand to support it. Unlimited freedom is a strong ideological belief in countries like the United States, and communism was once the ideological foundation in parts of Europe. Some follow ideological ideals that are logical, while others take stands that seem, well, idiotic or illogical, like racism.

  175. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    185 Darren says:
    February 7, 2013 at 10:56 pm
    For what it’s worth, I firmly believe Gingrich would have oppsed ant international agreement on population control if he were president and, yes, I very much would have voted for him.

    who gives a rat’s about Gingrich?
    We’re trying to decide why Romney lost.
    Apparently you agree with me that he wasn’t a real Conservative, just a Republican acting like one.

  176. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I used “ideology” from “ideologue” in order to change the adjective to a noun. “Ideologue” is someone who thinks up ideas and Mitt Romney thought up ideas as solutions, not necessarily as conservative. He did not adhire to conservative ideals as a basis to decide things but the sum of Mitt Romney’s positions were conservative. You’ve yet to show how that is not the case. I’ve shown you how your logic works against Gingrich whish I recall you enthusiastically supported against Obama. Too bad the liar Gingrich lost to the liar Romney. (According to Sarge’s rules for liars).

  177. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Definition of IDEOLOGUE
    1 : an impractical idealist : theorist
    2 : an often blindly partisan advocate or adherent of a particular ideology

  178. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    who gives a rat’s about Gingrich?

    You do, well, did. You were an excited dancing monkey who just scored a brand new fresh banana (save it for the next party) when he gained steam in the camaign. You could not wait until he got to the general elections to debate Obama. That means we was a conservative with a bona fide conservative past who NEVER lied to people to get their vote.

    We’re trying to decide why Romney lost.

    No, you’re trying to show he wasn’t a conservative. I typed out why he lost, I don’t care to debate it (which, oddly, I am).

    Apparently you agree with me that he wasn’t a real Conservative, just a Republican acting like one.

    I don’t believe it was much of an act. He stated what hr believed and they were conservative. Which beliefs weren’t? Was accusing Romney of being a predatoral capitalist a conservative belief?

  179. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    It’s 11:13 and so I’ll give you 10 minutes of engagement, then I’m done for reals this time.

  180. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    2 : an often blindly partisan advocate or adherent of a particular ideology

    Which Romney was not regarding conservatism though he still held to very conservative ideas, a few of which I shared on this thread, and his presidential campaign was very much based on conservative ideas. I err not in this, I promise.

  181. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    188 Darren says:
    February 7, 2013 at 11:05 pm
    I used “ideology” from “ideologue” in order to change the adjective to a noun. “Ideologue” is someone who thinks up ideas and Mitt Romney thought up ideas as solutions, not necessarily as conservative. He did not adhire to conservative ideals as a basis to decide things but the sum of Mitt Romney’s positions were conservative. You’ve yet to show how that is not the case. I’ve shown you how your logic works against Gingrich whish I recall you enthusiastically supported against Obama. Too bad the liar Gingrich lost to the liar Romney. (According to Sarge’s rules for liars).

    Darren;
    I was for ANYBODY but Romney—because he was not ideologically a Conservaitve. Ideologically, he was a left leaning moderate who imposed the first assualt rifle ban in the country and the first socialized medecine program.
    There are no amount of weasle words or comparing him to somebody else that will change that. Even if Reagan had instituted the same assualt rifle ban that Romney did (and he didn’t), he still was totally and irrevocable against socialized ANYTHING, which makes him more conservative than Romney, so please——
    I also knew he would lose because of that. Itb was the exact wrong moment in history to run a guy like Romney—somebody who was not sufficiently different from Obama to make people on the fence not go with the Devil they know.
    All you’re doing here tonight is agreeing with me that everything we suspected about Romney was right: he wasn’t a Conservative, knew he wasn’t a Conservative, but ran a “Conservative campaign” which means he really didn’t beleive in what he was selling—

  182. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    What you’re saying is that he took conservative positions, he just didn’t beleive in them.

    Nope, he believed in the positions he took. And those positions were conservative, which, nobody has shown they were not, just that Mitt’s a Mormon and I’m a Mormon, and so, voila, there’s your connection. No more need to think any further. No need to think if Mitt Romney took conservative positions or was a conservative presidental candidate. He wasn’t and his positions n gun control and heal;thcare in his state before his presidential campagin prove it and Darren supported him because Mitt was a Mormon.
    Well, at least you haven’t shown how Mitt was not a conservative. Maybe it was to move federal funding for Medicaid to state black grants. That’s highly liberal. Maybe it was his promise to veto the Dream Act. We all know that you, Sarge, highyl favor the Dream Act. Those are two thing which firmly place Mitt Romney into the liberal camp.

  183. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I don’t believe it was much of an act. He stated what hr believed and they were conservative. Which beliefs weren’t?

    Everything after the assault rifle ban and the socialized medecine.
    That was enough.
    Everything after that is just stuff a guy who is not ideologically conservative says to get people to vote for him.
    A political hack.
    Even if he wasn’t, he could never get past that perception with the record he had. He adopted those positions out of political expediency in MA, he’d turn around and “compromise” when it came to oh, I don’t know—IMMIGRATION—just like the Republicans who aren’t really ideologically Conservative, but run conservative campaigns.

  184. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I was for ANYBODY but Romney—because he was not ideologically a Conservaitve.

    Say, didn’t I say on this very thread that Mitt not being ideologically conservative gave many conservative voters apprehension to vote for him? Why yes, yes I did. Just look at my number 77:

    Romney was conservative. There is no way you can show him not being a conservative beased on what he campaigned on. Yes, there are some less than conservative points but overall it was a conservatve campaign based on conservative ideas and beliefs. What Mitt Romney isnot is a conservative idealogue therefore he is not reliable to fall back to conservative principles when making his decisions. This aspect of Mitt Romney, justifiably, concerned conservative voters, including many tea partiers but no one can rationally say he was not a conservative candidate. He was pro kill the jihadis, pro ecomonic growth by getting federal regulations away from businesses and reducing their tax burdern, pro life (his wife would have been the first pro life first lady in our history since Roe v Wade), and very much favored the states to make healthcare decisions over that of the federal government. It wasn’t not being a conservative candidate, just the fact that Mitt Romney is not a conservative ideologue which made many conservative voters reluctant to vote for him.

    Dawg gone it, I did say that. But it was his past opposition on guns which stuck out to you and solidified your decision not to vote for Romney. As I’ve pointed out before, Reagan supported gun bans though not permanent ones. And did you notice Super Dave’s citation was on the brady Bill? Guess who supported the Brady Bill after his presidency? Come on, it’s not hard. And it was from a….CONSERVATIVE IDEOLOGUE 😯 (oh, the dread).

    Ideologically, he was a left leaning moderate who imposed the first assualt rifle ban in the country and the first socialized medecine program.

    Not ideologically but, yes, very liberal laws he supported and terrible laws to boot. Mitt Romney’s ideology is much more in tune with fixing things; not to either political side of the spectrum.

    There are no amount of weasle words or comparing him to somebody else that will change that.

    Who tried to change what? how is applying the same standard placed on Romney upon others changing anything. It’s not changing anything, just making things constant which is kinda the opposite of changing, don’t you think?

    he still was totally and irrevocable against socialized ANYTHING, which makes him more conservative than Romney

    No argument from me that Reagan was much more socially conservative than Romney. Reagan did legalize abortion though. That does reduce the differences a tad. But just a tad. My main point is that Reagan did liberal things during his governorship, presidency, and after his presidency. But I still hold him up to being a conservative, even an ideologue.
    True to Reagan, this is a very goodl isten and even inspiring.
    Ronald Reagan On Socialized Medicine

    I also knew he would lose because of that. Itb was the exact wrong moment in history to run a guy like Romney—somebody who was not sufficiently different from Obama to make people on the fence not go with the Devil they know.

    Plus you couldn’t have a Mormon go up against he first black president. That was your position. Besides, I’m convinced that Bachman or Cain, especially Cain, would have lost to Obama. Go figure.

    All you’re doing here tonight is agreeing with me that everything we suspected about Romney was right: he wasn’t a Conservative, knew he wasn’t a Conservative, but ran a “Conservative campaign” which means he really didn’t beleive in what he was selling—

    Nope. Romney was a conservative, believed what he took positions with but he was not a conservative ideologue.

  185. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Time’s long up for me to disengage this lovely dialogue. Although I’m sure I did not spell everything correctly, it sure is easier to type when you don’t have a baby sleeping on your lap.

  186. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Everything after the assault rifle ban and the socialized

    He supported no such thing as a presidential candidate. You know that’s the context I’m talking about.

    Everything after that is just stuff a guy who is not ideologically conservative says to get people to vote for him.

    Really? He wasn’t going to reduce taxes? You got some insightful mojo there, Sarge.

    he’d turn around and “compromise” when it came to oh

    Let me quote from Darren Sophia Maximus:

    This aspect of Mitt Romney, justifiably, concerned conservative voters, including many tea partiers

    Believe men, that’s exactly what Darren said.

  187. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    But, psssst, Sarge, those WERE conservative positions, no?

  188. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I love you Sarge. I’m going to bed.
    XOXOXO

  189. Katfish Avatar

    Good GRIEF Yall !!
    LET
    IT
    GO fer goodness sakes!!
    *The Astros wouldda WON the World Series if the White Sox weren’t so conservative*
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^this above has about as much value as all the meaningless, useless electoral histrionics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHEEEEEEEEEEEESH

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