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Test Sample for the Hyper velocity test performed at Southwest Research, San Antonio, back in 1996!!I The velocity was about 30,000 FPS, I think and the fleck of paint was around 2 microns wide, think the head of a pin!
I have a picture of this on my computer, that I took back in 2005 I think, when I was helping out with the wing leading edge test with the CO2 cannon.
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I might add that the pearl in the picture is MUCH bigger than actual projectile.
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Close.
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OK then the velocity had to be much lower.
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Stop the abuse of aluminum plating! Ban all 12mm steel shot!
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TexMo got the real message immediately!
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Politics is replete with pithy catch phrases and memorable quotes that illustrate, or are intended to illustrate, the values and political intentions of those who utter them. “Read my lips: no new taxes.” is one. “Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.” is another.
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Do you have any idea what havoc vaporized aluminum wreaks on the environment??? Think of the polar bears!
Imagine standing on a large green meadow scanning the surrounding countryside. On the horizon you can see a mountain crest rising.
There’s snow on top of it, but around you, the landscape is green and lush with a host of different trees, plants and insects. Does this sound like Greenland?
Not today’s Greenland, no. But finds of fossil DNA from soil residues embedded in the ice sheet have previously indicated that this was what Greenland looked like more than 400,000 years ago.Global warming 400,000 years ago??? Impossible!!! Blasphemers!!! They must all be burned
at the stakein a highly efficient electric arc furnace with state-of-the-art pollution controls to reduce the carbon footprint to 1990 levels. -
After all those years as a kid being told “You could grow turnips in those ears!” it turns out I was right and my parents were wrong.
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#4 dave
Can’t right now, but…
Open google in another tab or window. Click on images near the top.
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G’Morning All
A Connecticut Yankee in Texas
January 17, 1821
On this date in 1821, the government of New Spain granted Moses Austin a permit to settle 300 families in Texas. This momentous agreement began the process of Anglo-American colonization in the future state. The elder Austin died, however, before he could fulfill his part of the contract, and his son Stephen F. Austin was recognized as his successor. Although Mexican independence from Spain cast temporary doubt on the future of the contract, a special decree issued in April 1823 allowed S. F. Austin to begin the colonization that led eventually to the Texas Revolution and the Republic of Texas. -
First appearance of Popeye
January 17, 1929
On this day in 1929, Popeye, the Sailor Man, renowned comic-strip character, first appeared in print. The Victoria Advocate is credited as the first newspaper in the nation to run Elzie Crisler Segar’s comic strip, originally called “Thimble Theatre,” which starred the spinach-eating hero. Segar (1894-1938) was born in Chester, Illinois, and worked as a moving-picture machine operator, a house painter, and a photographer before his first cartoon effort was rejected by a St. Louis paper. Segar became a popular cartoonist in the 1920s. Popeye was probably inspired by Frank “Rocky” Feigle of Segar’s hometown. By 1932 Popeye was the undisputed star of “Thimble Theatre,” as evidenced in fan mail, toys, games, novelties, and jokes. Segar himself called the Victoria Advocate Popeye’s “hometown.” In gratitude he contributed a special cartoon for the Advocate’s historic 1934 anniversary issue. Speaking to the newspaper’s editor through Popeye, Segar wrote, “Please assept me hearties bes’ wishes an’ felitcitations on account of yer paper’s 88th Anniversity….Victoria is me ol’ home town on account of tha’s where I got born’d at.” Crystal City, Texas, also claims a special relationship to Popeye. The spinach industry credited Popeye and Segar with the 33 percent increase in spinach consumption from 1931 to 1936, and in 1937 Crystal City, the “Spinach Capital of the World,” erected a statue to honor Segar and his sailor. -
I could go to my doctor with my right arm dangling by its skin and he’d first look in my ears and axe why am I still using que-tips.
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Super Dave – check here.
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When I looked at the picture the first thing I thought of was a shaped charge detonation.
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And here I am, thinking how much it looks like a face.
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I see man’s inhumanity to man.
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The dished out portion at the top of the image is expected, what is really interesting to me is the part at the bottom. Some of the energy of the impact was transmitted through the block, apparently without damage, only to disrupt the fabric of the metal further down; that is probably not the best way to describe it but it gets pretty close.
It reminds me of a scene in a Van Damme karate movie where he hits a stack of bricks and only causes a specific one down in the stack to shatter, with the rest seemingly undamaged. -
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Some of the energy of the impact was transmitted through the block, apparently without damage, only to disrupt the fabric of the metal further down
Think of it as a wave of energy moving through the metal. As it gets close to the outside the resistance from the solid is overcome by the energy of impact enough to separate. Notice that the diameter of the separation is equal to the diameter of the impact crater And, if you look at the microstructure of the plate above the separation I guarantee you it’s changed.
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That block, according to the first link in #14, is 7″ thick. Imagine that you are in a spacecraft with aluminum walls 7″ thick and you hear a really loud THWACK. You don’t detect any drop in pressure, (after you clean your shorts, because you are in space and what the wiss just happened) so you start looking around and you see this bulge toward the inside of the capsule, what do you do then? You may do a space walk and check the damage from the other side and see the crater, then what? How much weaker is the metal, how did the instant rise in pressure/temp change the tempering characteristics of the metal, seeing as how the pressure inside the ship is much greater than outside and the bulge is towards the inside, the pressure is pressing against the strong side of the arc.
There are a whole bunch more questions to ask and I don’t know the answers, I don’t even know most of the pertinent questions and the whole thing fascinates me. -
welllllll charging devices and re-packing for the final 250 miles to Orlando – hopefully the dang “Sunshine State” will live to even 30 seconds of it’s motto today! I’ve never worn my night glasses (yellow lenses) for a full all day ride until yesterday – not even a hint of sun
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There are some assault unicorn pictures at the bottom of this article about Piers Morgan “interviewing” Dana Loesch and another gun proponent.
I think it’s quite appropriate to have a unicorn picture in the same article as the ever-annoying PM of gun control idiocy. I swear, he’s such an elitist bully. I have the hardest time watching him in these interviews. He doesn’t interview. He creates straw men, takes arguments to absurd extremes to try to make his arguments seem stronger (and make his guests look like idiots), and he never lets them finish a sentence. I think the interviewees should each be given dirty gym socks to stuff in his mouth, just so they can finish a sentence.
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And, if you look at the microstructure of the plate above the separation I guarantee you it’s changed.
Agreed. The deformation left a void in solid metal, that would cause a tremendous vacuum to form and suck it back in unless the metal at the location of the tear actually vaporized to fill the vacuum.
This makes me think of how a ships wheel (propeller) gets damaged by cavitation, a process which rips the fabric of the water only to have it violently collapse back to water and pit the metal of the wheel. -
Found some interesting comments at twitchy.com
I swear the liberal mind is like a runaway train. It can’t slow down to use reason or logic. It’s on one track and out of control.
And like concrete: all mixed up and permanently set.
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Good frosty morning Hamsters. Heavy frost and 27 at 6. Sun rose and turned all into diamonds for a few minutes before drawing them skyward on his breath. Another sunny day in what the weather guessers say will be a string of them lasting almost a week. Let us hope that is correct. Dank and dreary weather long overstayed its welcome for bringing rain.
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Okay, let me get this straight.
Piers Morgan, bloviating Brit, has Ben Shapiro (author of “Bullies”) to talk gun control.
Shapiro promptly removes PM’s butt and hands it to him on a platter.
PM takes about 17 hours to begin denigrating Shapiro via Twitter.
Twitter folks remove PM’s butt and again hand it to him on a platter.
PM invites Shapiro back for “balanced” interview. They won’t tell him what the format will be.
Shapiro insists on knowing the format, and finds out PM plans to stack the studio with SH victims.
Shapiro decides to come anyway.
Shapiro’s plane gets delayed to an “unruly passenger”.
Shapiro misses the highly staged debate due to no fault of his own.
PM decides to claim that Shapiro ducked out of the debate and calls him a coward. “Grow a pair” he says.
Shapiro responds.
I think that PM should simply have a spike to hold his butt in place. It’ll make the detachment process a little less painful.
PM is the biggest bully I’ve ever seen. And I’ve seen a few.
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#20 bone
The void would be filled with whatever fluid was on that side of the block. There are likely large cracks across the face of the bulge that would be more than adequate to allow plenty of air in.
The bulge is an example if impact spalling. It is employed in anti-armor munitions known as HESH (high explosive squash head) rounds. These munitions hit the outside of the armor and flatten out a bit before exploding. The resulting shock wave causes material to spall off the inner face with sufficient velocity to shred everything inside the vehicle.
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Physics is just plain awesome. Just like those pictures of straws stuck through telephone poles after a tornado and stuff. E=mc2 really works doesn’t it.
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#28 Do you see any evidence of cracks in the cross section, the photo posted? I looked real close and saw zero evidence of cracks. From the cross section posted we can also see that the rupture does not extend to the ends of the block; there is closure all around the deformation.
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Piers Morgan isn’t the only one having trouble successfully arguing thier viewpoint on gun rights.
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As to PM trying to force the point about the tank, in his attempt to make gun proponents sound silly, I say:
“He!! yes! If I can afford a tank and use it responsibly, in a way that doesn’t violate anyone else’s rights, I should be able to have a tank. And a jet. And any dang gun I want. After all, I can park a tank in my back yard and it won’t hurt anyone unless and until I point the gun and pull the trigger. I can lay a rifle of any caliber and any size magazine on the table in front of you and it’s no threat unless and until I point it at you and and pull the trigger. Heck, a BB gun can seriously injure someone if pointed at the right body part. People die from baseball bats and tire irons all the time. The principle is the same, only the size of the object changes.
It’s the intent of the person controlling the object, not the object itself.
And evil will always exist, unfortunately. You cannot legislate objects and eradicate evil.”
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It’s the intent of the person controlling the object, not the object itself.
Blaming a firearm for gun violence is as logical as blaming the pencil for the misspelled word.
People taking their prescription medicine correctly kills more every year in this country than firearms. Ditto that for hospital mistakes, hospital contracted infections, car accidents, assaults with baseball bats, assaults with tire irons, . . . . .the list could go on and on. -
Well,
Per our discussion yesterday, thousands of people across the country already own tanks, armored personnel carriers, fighter planes from WW1, WW2, Korea, and Viet Nam.
I really wish someobdy had told him that last night. I would have loved to see his paranoid little head explode. -
I wouldn’t give any duck tape. Let it ‘splode.
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#14 wagonburner, thanks, the picture on thread was hit with a 12 MM ball @ 4,7 KPS = 15,000 FPS. The one I saw at Southwest Research was a 2 micron ball @ 10 KPS= 33,000 FPS and both the test samples look pretty much alike. Remember that the velocity/power curve is very non-linear.
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Hey a KatFishy sighting! Glad that you made it OK, good luck on the shorter trip to Orlando. 😉
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Do you see any evidence of cracks in the cross section, the photo posted?
lotsa cracks. Look at all those grains in the metal. I would wager that if you were to cut the bulge off and fill it with water that it would all run out of the bowl.
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FWIW; I sent Hamous the picture that I took at Southwest Research.
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2012 Darwin Awards
Nominee No. 1: [San Jose Mercury News]:
An unidentified man, using a shotgun like a club to break a former girlfriend’s windshield, accidentally shot himself to death when the gun discharged, blowing a hole in his gut.
Nominee No. 2: [Kalamazoo Gazette]:
James Burns, 34, (a mechanic) of Alamo, MI, was killed in March as he was trying to repair what police describe as a “farm-type truck.” Burns got a friend to drive the truck on a highway while Burns hung underneath so that he could ascertain the source of a troubling noise. Burns’ clothes caught on the drive shaft, however, and when the other man stopped he found Burns “wrapped in the drive shaft.”
Nominee No. 3: [Hickory Daily Record]:
Ken Charles Barger, 47, accidentally shot himself to death in December in Newton, NC. Awakening to the sound of a ringing telephone beside his bed, he reached for the phone but grabbed instead a Smith & Wesson 38 Special, which discharged when he put it to his ear.
Nominee No. 4: [UPI, Toronto]:
Police said a lawyer demonstrating the safety of windows in a downtown Toronto skyscraper crashed through a pane with his shoulder and plunged 24 floors to his death. A police spokesman said Garry Hoy, 39, fell into the courtyard of the Toronto Dominion Bank Tower early Friday evening as he was explaining the strength of the buildings windows to visiting law students. Hoy previously had conducted his demonstrations of window strength according to police reports. Peter Lawson, managing partner of the firm Holden Day Wilson, told the Toronto Sun newspaper that Hoy was “one of the best and brightest” members of the 200-man association. A person has to wonder what the dimmer members of this law firm are like.
Nominee No. 5: [The News of the Weird]:
Michael Anderson Godwin made News of the Weird posthumously. He had spent several years awaiting South Carolina’s electric chair on a murder conviction before having his sentence reduced to life in prison. While sitting on a metal toilet in his cell attempting to fix his small TV set, he bit into an electrical wire and was electrocuted.
Nominee No. 6: [The Indianapolis Star]:
A cigarette lighter may have triggered a fatal explosion in Dunkirk, IN. A Jay County man, using a cigarette lighter to check the barrel of a muzzleloader, was killed Monday night when the weapon discharged in his face, sheriff’s investigators said. Gregory David Pryor, 19, died in his parents’ rural Dunkirk home at about 11:30 PM. Investigators said Pryor was cleaning a 54-caliber muzzle-loader that had not been firing properly. He was using the lighter to look into the barrel when the gunpowder ignited.
Nominee No. 7: [Reuters, Mississauga, Ontario]:
A man cleaning a bird feeder on the balcony of his condominium apartment in this Toronto suburb slipped and fell 23 stories to his death. “Stefan Macko, 55, was standing on a wheelchair when the accident occurred,” said Inspector Darcy Honer of the Peel Regional Police. “It appears that the chair moved, and he went over the balcony,” Honer said.
THE WINNER!!!: [Arkansas Democrat Gazette]:
Two local men were injured when their pickup truck left the road and struck a tree near Cotton Patch on State Highway 38 early Monday. Woodruff County deputy Dovey Snyder reported the accident shortly after midnight Monday. Thurston Poole, 33, of Des Arc, and Billy Ray Wallis, 38, of Little Rock, were returning to Des Arc after a frog-catching trip. On an overcast Sunday night, Poole’s pickup truck headlights malfunctioned.
The two men concluded that the headlight fuse on the older-model truck had burned out. As a replacement fuse was not available, Wallis noticed that the .22 caliber bullets from his pistol fit perfectly into the fuse box next to the steering-wheel column. Upon inserting the bullet the headlights again began to operate properly, and the two men proceeded on eastbound toward the White River Bridge .
After traveling approximately 20 miles, and just before crossing the River, the bullet apparently overheated, discharged and struck Poole in the testicles. The vehicle swerved sharply right, exited the pavement, and struck a tree. Poole suffered only minor cuts and abrasions from the accident but will require extensive surgery to repair the damage to his testicles, which will never operate as intended.
Wallis sustained a broken clavicle and was treated and released. “Thank God we weren’t on that bridge when Thurston shot his balls off, or we might be dead,” stated Wallis
“I’ve been a trooper for 10 years in this part of the world, but this is a first for me. I can’t believe that those two would admit how this accident happened,” said Snyder.
Upon being notified of the wreck, Lavinia (Poole’s wife) asked how many frogs the boys had caught and did anyone get them from the truck? Though Poole and Wallis did not die as a result of their misadventure as normally required by Darwin Award Official Rules, Poole did in fact effectively remove himself from the gene pool.
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#33 Sarge 😀
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Number 3 reminds me of one of my favorite aggie jokes:
How do you make an Aggie burn her ear?
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How do you break an Aggie’s finger?
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What do you call an Aggie skeleton in the closet?
Winner of the Hide and Seek game. -
#48: When are they gonna test shoulder fired missiles?
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An Aggie girl goes to the doctor and she tells him in her confused state “Doc, it hurts when I touch my head, and it hurts when I touch my stomach, and it hurts when I touch my knee or my toe” The doc says calmly, that’s OK Miss Aggie, we will get your broken finger splinted and you will be good as new in no time.”
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I wonder if this is an Aggie as well?
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/16/16545955-between-a-wall-and-a-hard-place-oregon-woman-freed-from-tiny-space?lite -
Seen on the marquee at Silver Wings Ballroom, Brenham, Texas:
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Drudge reports on a computer virus that shut down a power plant for a month. The first comment, by daveca, is interesting. Ya gotsta read the story first.
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Sarge is bugging me about my weight again. I don’t like Rasberry Ultra Drops! 😉
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When It comes to high culture, Washington County takes a back seat to no one.
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#54: I wonder how effective of a marketing technique it is to infect a bunch of computers with an unwanted ad?
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Midget Wrestling – Feb 6
Is it these guys?
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Like the floorboard dimmer switch, RIP parking handbrake.
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My parking brakes were always foot activated, except on the 2000 Hyundai Elantra and the 2006 Ford Windstar.
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For the Aggie flower lover who just can’t get enough; Maroon Bluebonnets.
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So it was a movie about a porn star, but it turns out they decided to delete the parts about the donkey show, so she wasn’t needed.
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55 Shannon says:
January 17, 2013 at 1:00 pm
When It comes to high culture, Washington County takes a back seat to no one.Midget show must bee on a weekday. IIRC the Silver Wings had Country bands on even numbered weekends and Rock and Roll bands on the odd ones.
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And Cowboy Church on Sundays. (Full parking lot.)
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Sounds like an mharper Wednesday night outing to me.
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and in this corner…Max Mex the Immigration Sensation!
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#65 Shannon
How wrong you are, senor. A couple of times growing up in Midland, I got dragged along on family nights to wrestling in Odessa. Muy low brow. -
Ms. Shannon’s ten year old pickup has aquired some kind of scummy residue on the inside of the windows. It seems no product can cut this stuff. Knowing that some paper towels can leave a residue, she tried cotton rags that have been dried with no dryer sheet, also.
She spoke with a detailing pro about it and he threw his hands up and said one of his own vehicles has the same problem.
I finally went out and looked at it one morning when they were fogged up and I’ve never seen anything like it. It is not your typical “plastic gassing off scum” and there is no cigarette smoking in this vehicle, either.
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Have you tried white vinegar?
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#68: Have you/she tried straight rubbing alcohol yet? Ifn that don’t work it will take a couple of steps, there is a product called goof off that pretty well near gets everything off but may leave a residue, follow up with some alcohol or Windex.
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#70 Bones
Bwa Haha Ha. Yer link to “goof off”:Acute withdrawal but not long-term withdrawal from methamphetamine affects sexual behavior in female rats Original Research Article
woops. 😳
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Oh, that’s your daughter’s paper.
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Muy low brow.
one-percenter
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I’m not sure of everything she’s tried, but I’ll attack it this weekend with your suggestions.
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#68 Shannon
Try using newspaper (uncoated) to wipe glass off.
Use plain water, Windex, white vineger (prolly want to dilute), and sudsing ammonia solution as the cleaner. Plain water and vinegar should leave no residue of their own at all. -
Goof Off
M42: You are correct, my brilliant daughter Heartcrusher, got published for the first time. I wonder how that link got tangled with the goof off one?
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If you try the goof off make sure the fans are running because it is really potent.
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Over three hundred citizens showed up at a gun rights meeting last night in Brenham.
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I’m an Aggie, but there’s something just….wrong….about maroon bluebonnets.
Even the name sounds wrong.
Maroon. BLUEbonnets.
Aggies are good Texans.
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#79 TT: They also made white ones. I think they have a zebra named spot as well.
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Bob Scheiffer apparently forgot that the first thing the NAZIs did when they took over Germany was confiscate all the privately held firearms.
HEADLINE: Bob Schieffer Likens Obama ‘Taking on the Gun Lobby’ to Hunt for Bin Laden, ‘Defeating the Nazis’
Prolly shouldn’t read if you have just eaten. . . . .
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#68: Did you try the defroster?
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Probably a leak in your heating line. This happened to me some years ago. If memory serves me it some kind of pinhole in heater line I don’t remember what was done to fix it but it probably cost a few bucks. The stuff on the windshield was a glycol base.
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#59 Hamous, as a long time Corvette fan, (owned a 69, daughter has a 2007) I’m really NOT happy with the new one,….Camaro tail lights, nuttin’ wrong with square tail lights on a new Camaro because it looks just like a 1969, BUTT tail lights on a Vette are ROUND! Also the front end looks like an old Viper! !! 🙁
Say what you will, but today, as it’s been for 50 years, you can buy a sports car made in the US of A for way less than $100K and it will smoke most of it’s Competition! -
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Shannon
WD40. Don’t laugh that stuff will cut anything. -
Watching “The Odd Couple”. That was humor was clean and didn’t require swear words.
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The Philadelphia Eagles hired the Oregon Ducks coach Chip Kelly for their head coaching position. Word is he will attempt bring his high flying spread offense to the NFL and call it the spread eagle.
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That’s a cool o/c pic!
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Burglars steal two guns from home featured on weapons permit map published by newspaper, just days after break-in at another address on the list
Got that from Glenn Reynolds who says he smells a lawsuit coming. Oh, yes, take the newspaper to the cleaners.
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Tedtam;
Shapiro’s response to Morgan regarding him bringing in Holocaust victims (I was thinking surviors, how ever many you can still find) and talk about not worrying about the government becoming tyranical.
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TT #34;
Heck, a BB gun can seriously injure someone if pointed at the right body part.
Except for one part on Morgan. Word’s out that he’s still waiting to grow his pair.
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Hulk smash Piers Morgan!
(It’s a video this time)
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