Friday Praying Badly Open Comments

Sometimes, I just stumble across something that makes an impact on me. This post on praying badly was one of those.
We get so used to praying with words that we stop realizing what we are trying to do. One of my class worksheets deals with “vain repetition”. That’s what this author talks about – words that are repeated vainly, without meaning, by rote.

At the end of the day – putting beauty and truth aside – surely there are only so many Ave Marias one can mutter? Surely it’s extremism, to live a life in constant prayer, constant mortification, and constant contemplation of Christ? Surely the Saints get bored of Sainthood?

When I pray my rosary, the repetition of the Hail Mary prayers is like a mantra, calming my mind so that I can contemplate the mysteries of the rosary. It’s like my mind works on two different levels. I can see, however, how it could become easy to just pay lip service to the Virgin and Jesus instead of trying to access a spiritual relationship. When I’m tired, sometimes lip service is all I can manage, but I end up feeling like I’ve shorted myself on something.

As a mediocre Catholic, I understand the complaint all too well. We’ve all been there, when our prayer suddenly curls up and dies like spiders on our lips, when the faith that surround us bores, when Mass is a chore, fasting a pain, obedience to The Church frightfully difficult. There are times when I do get tired of it all, dammit. I am usually made aware of this sad fact when praying my Rosary, and halfway through the third mystery I realize I’ve spent 35 Hail Marys thinking about bacon. (And not even the Father-of-the-English-Renaissance-variety.)

Yeah, sometimes it’s hard to focus.
And, then, there’s this moment of beauty:

When you repeat a word again and again, soon the word is utterly strange on your tongue. Who invented such an obnoxious mouthful such as ‘toast’? What is ‘toast’? It’s this strange, wet tap on the roof of my mouth, a stupid slackening of my jaw and tightening of my cheeks…I have no idea what ‘toast’ is now, but when I re-establish it with slightly-burnt bread, it’s something of a newfound delight. What a marvel, that that awkward mouthful means this crunchy, peanut-butter-coated mouthful.

Wait, we’re getting there….

Or take our fathers. We see them every day for 18 years. We think, surely, this is one of the men I know best. But have you not experienced this moment…when suddenly the who-you-think-he-is falls away, and you realize you don’t know in the least this giant individual who runs your house?

Still getting there…

I hold that the constant prayer of the Saints is not an effort to become good at praying, but a fiery effort to pray for the first time. To speak the words, “My God I believe, I adore, I trust and I love thee,” in somewhat of the same manner we spoke ‘toast’ – that is – to utter them as they are; incredible, virgin, foreign. Truly, to pray well is to pray badly, to allow the words to shock us as strange, to permit the well-worn phrases to be things we can scarcely comprehend…To pray constantly is to seek that shining moment of praying as awfully as a child. (emphasis mine)

Here it is:

Similarly, the Saint gazing at an icon of Christ does not gaze to gaze well, to get used to the Divine Face or to understand it. He gazes to confirm the suspicion that he cannot understand it at all. He gazes for hours to see the face of Christ for one second. He contemplates for years to realize that he has not enough lifetimes to contemplate. The expert would seek an answer. The Saint seeks a mystery. The expert would gaze well. The Saint looks at the face of Christ like an idiot child looks at a bird on his windowsill.

It is left to you to become Saints, to see your God, your faith and your world so awfully that it might be shocked with new life. Do you think I was lying when I told you you must become like little children? I was speaking the truth. Unless you are as wide-eyed and stunned by My grace as a child is by the first robin of Spring, you will not enter the Heavenly Kingdom. This is because to exist as anything but a child is to believe that you know my Heavenly Kingdom, that you know what it is like, that you have it nailed down like a beetle to a card. Only the recognition of the appalling strangeness of my Being, the utter inconceivability of my mercy, and the total mystery of my Grace will prepare your heart for What I Actually Am. Only if you open your eyes to see as I see will you ever experience the fullness of life I have planned for you on this earth. For I am The I Am That I Am: I see everything for the first time.

You should read the rest of the post.
And may all of you pray badly. Very badly.


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  1. El Gordo Avatar

    Well I decided to take a break this morning from my ongoing search for the every elusive RFU to check in on reality for a few minutes. I see they are still talking about the fiscal cliff and our esteemed House leader is wasting his time over at Obama’s office talking about what else he might have to give away to get Big O to accept his plan. Of course, Big O wants it all, but when Boehner says OK to that, he wants a pound of flesh to go with it (sort of reminds me of my first divorce – all of it just wasn’t enough). So, the question now is, can Obama serve as President and Speaker of the House at the same time? Apparently the answer is “yes” so long as he doesn’t actually have to do anything and can double dip and get another government check. Then what will he want to go with that? Back to the RFU’s now.
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2012/12/13/boehner-fiscal-cliff/1766559/

  2. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Have a safe ride EG, remember even RFU’s buck once and a while. 😀

  3. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    tt –
    On the idea of repetition, have you ever sat in the front row at Mass near the center aisle? Hearing the priest say “The Body of Christ” a couple hundred times gets like that. Every now and then for some reason it becomes very moving.

  4. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Sounds like it’s getting more urgent that Oogo gets right with the Big Guy.

  5. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Dr Assad had better be looking for a new house in one of those garden-spot countries like Zimbabwe or Uganda.

  6. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    While I can understand someone wanting to do this, it does seem to be a bit overboard.

    Justin Bieber kidnap plot gang wanted $2,500 per testicle
    Killer planned to ‘castrate and strangle star’

    On a related note, I’m not convinced that Mr. Bieber even has testicules.

  7. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Until Chairman Priebus and other GOP leaders focus on rooting out the greed, cronyism, and corruption of the ‘little white boy’ consultants who make millions of dollars, year in and year out, and yet lose elections—and until there is real accountability and transparency to donors to ensure that integrity is restored to GOP circles—none of these initiatives will matter,” said Cleta Mitchell.
    The assembling of the Republican panel comes on the heels of an investigation by Breitbart News contributor Patrick Michael Leahy that showed that the Romney campaign paid over $150 million to two consulting firms with ties to top RNC and Romney campaign staffers.
    “No such study or comprehensive reform program will be credible unless serious steps are proposed to identify and crush consultants responsible for warping campaign spending toward commissionable expenses and allowing the [political] left a huge advantage in effective ground-game activities,” Virginia RNC member Morton Blackwell told the Washington Times.
    In the wake of the 2012 elections, numerous conservatives and Republicans have criticized the GOP’s consultant class for having engaged in the kind of cronyism that landed advisers big pay days and the GOP big losses.

  8. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Morning all, I’ve been real busy lately and only strolling by periodically. With the election over I seem to also have lost interest for now in politics and focusing on looking after those close to me. TW sent this to me and it is too good not to share.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92rcPxgopFE

  9. Tedtam Avatar

    #3 WB

    On the idea of repetition, have you ever sat in the front row at Mass near the center aisle? Hearing the priest say “The Body of Christ” a couple hundred times gets like that. Every now and then for some reason it becomes very moving.

    I have, on occasion, been known to tear up during mass.
    Have you ever prayed the Chaplet of Divine Mercy? That repetition gets to me, too.
    Some people repeat vainly, as I said in the post. The words are just words. They are just sounds emitted by the juxtaposition of various body parts and a stream of air. They may as well clap their hands and accomplish the same task. But sometimes, the repetition is like hammering a spike, driving the point ever more firmly down until it is truly, truly felt.

  10. Tedtam Avatar

    I hadn’t thought of this:
    Susan Rice withdrew her name to save the media

    And what did we get from Ben Smith yesterday immediately after Rice withdrew? The firing of a brightly colored flare that told the media, WE CAN ALL STOP COVERING LIBYA NOW! The headline of the piece said it all: “Rice Withdrawal Marks End Of Benghazi Scandal.”
    Let me repeat that with emphasis: “Rice Withdrawal Marks End Of Benghazi Scandal.”

  11. Tedtam Avatar

    And here’s another happy circumstance: Right to work may end up defunding Planned Abortion Parenthood

    How many [workers] know that their union dues are going to support Planned Parenthood? I think this is something that the pro-life and pro-family movements in Michigan and elsewhere need to make known. It’s not just being forced to join a union – for many people, it’s being forced to support actions and organizations they find reprehensible.

  12. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    Sarge,
    Think about all of the millions billions of dollars spent by both sides in this election. Think about all of the “true believers” in both parties that ponied up the cash to elect these folks.
    I only have one word to say, “Suckers!”
    Used to be…they paid us to vote with free barbecue and beer. Where did it all go wrong?
    Simple

  13. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    G’Morning All
    Noticed where the right-to-work law prompted Jimmy Hoffa to predict a civil war. If the South is already trying to secede and if the North secedes at the same time, there is nothing to fight about.

  14. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    The crazy aunt better watch her step. She may have a run in with a real tough crowd.

  15. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Simple;
    There are good reasons to donate to political campaigns. Those who donated to Obama’s campaign got a very good ROI and it seems the money was well spent.
    Those who consdier thmselves Fiscally Conservative, however, gave their money to people who have been electing candidates who have been spending our money like drunken sailors (my apologies to drunken sailors) for most of the past generation and thus should have known better.

  16. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    This is lengthy but worth the read! JESUS IS THE REASON FOR THE SEASON!!
    The old man sat in his gas station on a cold Christmas Eve. He hadn’t been anywhere in years since his wife had passed away. It was just another day to him.
    He didn’t hate Christmas, he just couldn’t find a reason to celebrate. He was sitting there looking at the snow that had been falling for the last hour and wondering what it was all about when the door opened and a homeless man stepped through.
    Instead of throwing the man out, ‘Old George’ as he was known by his customers, told the man to come and sit by the heater and warm up. “Thank you, but I don’t mean to intrude,” said the stranger. “I see you’re busy, I’ll just go.” George stopped him, saying “Not without something hot in your belly.”
    He turned and opened a wide mouth Thermos and handed it to the stranger. “It ain’t much, but it’s hot and tasty. Stew … Made it myself. When you’re done, there’s coffee and it’s fresh.”
    Just at that moment he heard the “ding” of the driveway bell. “Excuse me, be right back,” George said.
    There in the driveway was an old ’53 Chevy. Steam was rolling out of the front. The driver was panicked. “Mister can you help me!” said the driver, with a deep Spanish accent. “My wife is in labor and my car is broken.” George opened the hood. It was bad. The block looked cracked from the cold, the car was dead. “You ain’t going in this thing,” George said as he turned away.
    “But Mister, please help …” The door of the office closed behind George as he went inside. He went to the office wall and got the keys to his old truck, and went back outside. He walked around the building, opened the garage, started his old truck and drove it around to where the couple was waiting. “Here, take my truck,” he said. “She ain’t the best thing you ever looked at, but she runs real good.”
    George helped put the woman in the truck and watched as it sped off into the night. He turned and walked back inside the office.
    “Glad I gave ’em the truck, their tires were shot too. That ‘ol truck has brand new ones.” George thought he was talking to the stranger, but the man had gone. The Thermos was on the desk, empty, with a used coffee cup beside it. “Well, at least he got something in his belly,” George thought.
    George went back outside to see if the old Chevy would start. It cranked slowly, but it started. He pulled it into the garage where the truck had been. He thought he would tinker with it for something to do. Christmas Eve meant no customers. He discovered the block hadn’t cracked, it was just the bottom hose on the radiator. “Well, shoot, I can fix this,” he said to
    himself. So he put a new one on.
    “Those tires ain’t gonna get ’em through the winter either.” He took the snow treads off of his wife’s old Lincoln. They were like new and he wasn’t going to drive the car anymore anyway.
    As he was working, he heard shots being fired. He ran outside and beside a police car an officer lay on the cold ground. Bleeding from the left shoulder, the officer moaned, “Please help me.”
    George helped the officer inside as he remembered the training he had received in the Army as a medic. He knew the wound needed attention. “Pressure to stop the bleeding,” he thought. The uniform company had been there that morning and had left clean shop towels. He used those and duct tape to bind the wound. “Hey, they say duct tape can fix anythin’,” he said, trying to make the policeman feel at ease.
    “Something for pain,” George thought. All he had was the pills he used for his back. “These ought to work.” He put some water in a cup and gave the policeman the pills. “You hang in there, I’m going to get you an ambulance.”
    The phone in the office was dead. “Maybe I can get one of your buddies on that there talk box out in your car.” He went out only to find that a bullet had gone into the dashboard destroying the two way radio.
    He went back in to find the policeman sitting up. “Thanks,” said the officer. “You could have left me there. The guy that shot me is still in the area.”
    George sat down beside him, “I would never leave an injured man in the Army and I ain’t gonna leave you.” George pulled back the bandage to check for bleeding. “Looks worse than what it is. Bullet passed right through ‘ya. Good thing it missed the important stuff though. I think with time your gonna be right as rain.”
    George got up and poured a cup of coffee. “How do you take it?” he asked. “None for me,” said the officer. “Oh, yer gonna drink this. Best in the city. Too bad I ain’t got no donuts.” The officer laughed and winced at the same time.
    The front door of the office flew open. In burst a young man with a gun. “Give me all your cash! Do it now!” the young man yelled. His hand was shaking and George could tell that he had never done anything like this before.
    “That’s the guy that shot me!” exclaimed the officer.
    “Son, why are you doing this?” asked George, “You need to put the cannon away. Somebody else might get hurt.”
    The young man was confused. “Shut up old man, or I’ll shoot you, too. Now give me the cash!”
    The cop was reaching for his gun. “Put that thing away,” George said to the cop, “we got one too many in here now.”
    He turned his attention to the young man. “Son, it’s Christmas Eve. If you need money, well then, here. It ain’t much but it’s all I got. Now put that pea shooter away.”
    George pulled $150 out of his pocket and handed it to the young man, reaching for the barrel of the gun at the same time. The young man released his grip on the gun, fell to his knees and began to cry. “I’m not very good at this am I? All I wanted was to buy something for my wife and son,” he went on. “I’ve lost my job, my rent is due, my car got repossessed last week.”
    George handed the gun to the cop. “Son, we all get in a bit of squeeze now and then. The road gets hard sometimes, but we make it through the best we can.”
    He got the young man to his feet, and sat him down on a chair across from the cop. “Sometimes we do stupid things.” George handed the young man a cup of coffee. “Bein’ stupid is one of the things that makes us human. Comin’ in here with a gun ain’t the answer. Now sit there and get warm and we’ll sort this thing out.”
    The young man had finally stopped crying. He looked over to the cop. “Sorry I shot you. It just went off. I’m so sorry officer.” “Shut up and drink your coffee ” the cop said.
    George could hear the sounds of sirens outside. A police car and an ambulance skidded to a halt. Two cops came through the door, guns drawn. “Chuck! You ok?” one of the cops asked the wounded officer.
    “Not bad for a guy who took a bullet. How did you find me?”
    “GPS locator in the car. Best thing since sliced bread. Who did this?” the other cop asked as he approached the young man.
    Chuck answered him, “I don’t know. The guy ran off into the dark. Just dropped his gun and ran.”
    George and the young man both looked puzzled at each other.
    “That guy work here?” the wounded cop continued. “Yep,” George said, “just hired him this morning. Boy lost his job.”
    The paramedics came in and loaded Chuck onto the stretcher. The young man leaned over the wounded cop and whispered, “Why?”
    Chuck just said, “Merry Christmas boy … and you too, George, and thanks for everything.”
    “Well, looks like you got one doozy of a break there. That ought to solve some of your problems.”
    George went into the back room and came out with a good sized box. He pulled out a ring box from inside. “Here you go, something for the little woman. I don’t think Martha would mind. She said it would come in handy some day.”
    The young man looked inside to see the biggest diamond ring he ever saw. “I can’t take this,” said the young man. “It means something to you.”
    “And now it means something to you,” replied George. “I got my memories. That’s all I need.”
    George reached into the box again. An airplane, a car and a truck appeared next. They were toys that the oil company had left for him to sell. “Here’s something for that little man of yours.”
    The young man began to cry again as he handed back the $150 that the old man had handed him earlier.
    “And what are you supposed to buy Christmas dinner with? You keep that too,” George said. “Now git home to your family.”
    The young man turned with tears streaming down his face. “I’ll be here in the morning for work, if that job offer is still good.”
    “Nope. I’m closed Christmas day,” George said. “See ya the day after.”
    George turned around to find that the stranger had returned. “Where’d you come from? I thought you left?”
    “I have been here. I have always been here,” said the stranger. “You say you don’t celebrate Christmas. Why?”
    “Well, after my wife passed away, I just couldn’t see what all the bother was. Puttin’ up a tree and all seemed a waste of a good pine tree. Bakin’ cookies like I used to with Martha just wasn’t the same by myself and besides I was gettin’ a little chubby.”
    The stranger put his hand on George’s shoulder. “But you do celebrate the holiday, George. You gave me food and drink and warmed me when I was cold and hungry.
    The woman with child will bear a son and he will become a great doctor.
    The policeman you helped will go on to save 19 people from being killed by terrorists.
    The young man who tried to rob you will make you a rich man and not take any for himself. “That is the spirit of the season and you keep it as good as any man.”
    George was taken aback by all this stranger had said. “And how do you know all this?” asked the old man.
    “Trust me, George. I have the inside track on this sort of thing. And when your days are done you will be with Martha again.”
    The stranger moved toward the door. “If you will excuse me, George, I have to go now. I have to go home where there is a big celebration planned.”
    George watched as the old leather jacket and the torn pants that the stranger was wearing turned into a flowing white robe. A golden light began to fill the room.
    “You see, George … it’s My birthday. Merry Christmas.”
    George fell to his knees and replied, “Happy Birthday, Lord Jesus”.
    MERRY CHRISTMAS AND GOD BLESS!

  17. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    Sarge,
    I’ll take the free barbecue and beer. Seems like a better deal than what we get these days.
    Simple

  18. squawkbox Avatar

    I’ll take the free barbecue and beer. Seems like a better deal than what we get these days.

    The last meal of the condemned?

  19. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    Squawk,
    No. Just a better deal than a crummy old campaign button and a bumper sticker that I cannot get off of the chrome. Besides, as last meals for the condemned go…Spicy Hot Texas Barbecue and Cold Beer seems like a pretty good deal. Sure beats cold oatmeal.
    Simple

  20. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    20 Squawk
    “Rise Lord Vader!”
    Simple

  21. Tedtam Avatar

    Knitting is not what I do. Yet. That’s two straight needles. I crochet, using one hook.

  22. squawkbox Avatar

    Simple
    #22
    LOL I never thought of that. Too funny.

  23. squawkbox Avatar

    Somehow i doubt this is a true story but funny none the less. Though I could see me saying “it”.
    Two hours into my first day of work as a Wal-Mart greeter, an ugly woman came in with her two kids. Hearing her swear at them, I said, ‘Good morning, welcome to Wal-Mart. Nice kids, are they twins?’ The mom answered, ‘Hell no, they ain’t twins. The oldest one’s 9, and the other one’s 7. Why would you think they’re twins? Are you blind or stupid?’ I replied, ‘I’m not blind or stupid. I just couldn’t believe someone slept with you twice. Have a good day, and thank you for shopping at Wal-Mart.’ My supervisor said I probably wasn’t cut out for this line of work!

  24. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    It’s sappy, repetitive praise music that drives me insane.
    Gregorian Chant is very nice, though.

  25. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    RE: Complaints about spending on federal election campaigns
    Despite the fact the US Supreme Court has ruled campaign donations to be a clear expression of free speech, the whining never stops.
    It reminds me of the leftwing’s shrill hysteria over Americans spending 18% of GDP on healthcare. My response: So what ? We have the best medical system in the world. Maybe they think we should spend what the economies of Bolivia or Bangladesh do for the health of their citizens.
    A little perspective.
    In the USA, we spend annually in dollars, according to the latest available data:
    Breakfast cereal – 7.7 Billion
    Halloween purchases – 7 Billion
    Tattoos – 1.65 Billion
    Valentine’s Day purchases – 13.29 Billion
    Video Games – 10.1 Billion (down from the high 19.3 Billion in 2008)
    Nascar – 3 Billion
    NCAA athletic event ticket sales only – 10.6 Billion
    Endowment of the top five wealthiest universities in the US – 101.87 Billion
    (Harvard, Yale, U of Texas, Princeton, Stanford)
    Starbucks annual revenue 2011 – 11.7 Billion
    Victoria’s Secret annual revenue – 5 Billion
    Beer sales in 2010 – 7.6 Billion
    So, spending 6 billion dollars for a presidential campaign, 33 Senate seats and 335 House seats in a nation of 315 million people doesn’t seem so much at all considering the enormous impact the results have on the lives of every American.
    Argue all you want about how it is spent, but the amount is not going to go down.

  26. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #23 Tedtam
    So….
    I guess that makes you a hooker?
    You ever been to Ft. Sill?

  27. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    RE: Complaints about spending on federal election campaigns
    Despite the fact the US Supreme Court has ruled campaign donations to be a clear expression of free speech, the whining never stops.

    My complaint on spending is not that it exists. It is a right and proper expression of Liberty.
    My complaint is that the money donated is being stolen through false representation and given to well connected cronies by power brokers who keep their positions by passing the money out and deciding who gets hired and who does not.
    It occurs to me that recent Republican successes at the State level can possibly be attributed to the fact that the incompetent crony con men the National Party hire to run campaigns are too busy at the National level to do any damage lower down.

  28. Tedtam Avatar

    #29 WB

    I guess that makes you a hooker?

    I was at a local restaurant for breakfast with the family recently, and I was working on a Christmas present while waiting for our food to arrive. We frequent this establishment, and both Lovely and Handsome have worked there, so they all know us well. Oh, and it was founded by a cop, and you can almost always find at least one squad car outside, sometimes four or five. The waiter stopped by to talk, and I looked up at him, my crochet hook and yarn in hand, and asked him “I won’t get in trouble for hooking in the restaurant, will I?” Cracked him up.

  29. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #30 Sarge
    You are correct.
    Addendum to my #28
    Six billion divided by 315 million equals $19.05 per person in America for federal campaigns in 2012.
    One combo plate, 2 domestic beers at Goode Company Barbeque equals $19.25 or…
    …what Squawk spends at the local Cut & Shoot spray tanning salon each month.

  30. Tedtam Avatar

    And no, I’ve never been to Ft. Sill.

  31. Hamous Avatar

    My complaint is that the money donated is being stolen through false representation and given to well connected cronies by power brokers who keep their positions by passing the money out and deciding who gets hired and who does not.

    Easy peasy. Don’t donate.

  32. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    …what Squawk spends at the local Cut & Shoot spray tanning salon each month.

    But half of what he spends getting his back waxed.

  33. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Easy peasy. Don’t donate.

    Even easier:
    Give up.
    Better but harder:
    Get rid of the crooks so we can start winning elections and put the country back where it should be.

  34. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #15 Pyro
    You men need to get your needlecrafts straight when you try to haze a crocheter.
    #29
    That’s better!
    🙂

  35. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #16 Sarge
    I have not donated to the RNC in the last 15 years. My donations this cycle only went to some of DeMint’s candidates, plus I wasted one on Hermain Cain.

  36. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #38 mh42
    What a crewel thing to say.

  37. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #40 Good comeback!

  38. Tedtam Avatar

    I think he got the point.

  39. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    My wife being the romantic sort, just sent me a text………….
    “If you are sleeping, send me your dreams. If you are laughing, send me yoursmile. If you are eating, send me a bite. If you are drinking, send me asip. If you are crying, send me your tears. I love you x.”
    I replied……..”I am having a sh*t. What should I do?”

  40. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    40
    Ppppffffthh

  41. Hamous Avatar

    We’ve now had two generations of children grow up listening to “adults” argue about whether it’s legal for their mothers and fathers to kill their unborn brothers and sisters. Those of us who say it is not acceptable are portrayed by politicians, “pro-choice” people, and the media as “intolerant” people. When we baptize our children in this culture of death, is it any wonder events like this happen? Is anyone surprised that some of these children have such disregard for life? My God.

  42. Tedtam Avatar

    On the lines of abortion and the culture of death – another page from today’s OC topic website: Herod the Abortionist
    I’m gonna hafta read this site more often.

  43. Hamous Avatar

    That didn’t take long. Bob Schieffer is already calling for gun control. Maybe we should use China as a model for gun control:

    Possessing a single gun in China can yield a three-year prison sentence, while perpetrators of gun crimes are often executed. (Source: The Asian Times: June 24, 2010). According to official history of the Chinese Ministry of Public Security, the government had also cracked down harder on gun ownership after the 1989 pro-democracy demonstrations.

    Those pesky freedom-loving Chinese dissidents. Meanwhile back on Earth:

    Beijing: The dreaded attacks on school children returned to haunt China on Thursday after 22 of them were injured besides an 85-year-old woman after a “mentally deranged” man, armed with a knife, went on a slashing spree at a primary school.

  44. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    From what they just had on the Beeb, sounds like the guy lost his nut and went after his mother, who taught there.
    There’s also a “secondary crime scene” where there’s an additional murder victim.

  45. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    To piggyback on the crazy one’s topic, prayer takes many forms, from grace before meals to a child’s bedtime prayers to formal prayer to the Mass and many others.
    Even offering up radishes to God:

  46. Tedtam Avatar

    I’m watching Shark Tank. I like the show. It’s so uplifting to see people willing to work so hard and with so much passion, taking risks and being willing to put themselves in front of such a hard panel of business people. These people aren’t sitting on their hineys, waiting for a government handout. Even many of those who are turned down take what they’ve learned from the experience to improve their businesses, or they swear they are going to continue building their businesses.
    Even the silly ones are at least entertaining.

  47. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #53 Made me look. 🙂

  48. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Thought it would be archeology, instead it was psychology.

  49. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    In Carmine, Tx.
    At JW’s Steakhouse.
    The wife’s employer’s Christmas party.
    All is well.
    Except Bellville just lost to Navasota.

  50. Tedtam Avatar

    Just got through watching some videos of the Aggie Band. I love a good military marching band. None of the common jig and jive and flash that most bands try to use to make up for hard work and precision work.

  51. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    The TV talking heads sure are mentioning the gun was legally owned a lot – even though the killer was not the legal owner.
    I cannot imagine those parent’s grief.

  52. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #56
    Now we do not know, they may be hung low under those baggy pants.

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