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  1. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    Firsticus Maximus
    I am going to guess “The Princess Bride”. The picture of the late “Andre the Giant”
    was the clue for me.

  2. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    The soon to be former Congressman Allen West spent nearly 18 million dollars on his campaign, which was four times the amount spent by his Democrat opponent. Representative West has almost 1.5 million dollars left in his campaign war chest and that is more than most of the other incumbents spent on re-election.
    The irony to me is that West’s campaign was plagued by a large number of scam campaign fund websites. These sites solicited funds for his re-election but only forked over the smallest fraction of the money for it, which is mostly legal although it does not pass the smell test. I wonder how much untrackable money was contributed to the campaign because of the various scams.
    I can’t wait until the next election cycle to see how many former “Time Share” and Internet Scam Criminals tap into the worderful source of cash. Come to think of it….not a bad way for a dirty tricks political operative to covertly attack an opponent by “supporting” him. I’ll bet it would work both ways (Democrat or Republican).
    Simple
    Money Money Money

  3. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I am Inigo Montoya. You killed my father.
    Prepare to die.

  4. El Gordo Avatar

    Now that you mention it, I suppose it’s just not the right time of the year to be concerned with such mundane matters as taxes, the economic future for our children, the education opportunities for our children, and the like. Using our very own congresscritter from the uberconservative CD 22 Pete Olsen as a bell weather, I see very little future for the conservative movement as he seem more intent upon representing the interests of the leadership in the House than the interests of his constituents – and after Boners purge of conservative members from congressional committees, he will get to keep his standing in the “in” crowd. Now I will share in the blame for that because I thought he was a stand-up guy being a Rice grad and Navy vet, but guess I was wrong on that one as well as several others.
    Anyway, I’m taking a break from reality and going out in search of RFUs and the like, and I will report the happy results as spotting occur. More later.

  5. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    TGIF!!!! The movie pix is going to be tough since I only know one person in the pix.
    Mornin’ Gang

  6. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Sure you do.
    Billy Crystal. Carol Kane. Mandy Patinkin.

  7. Hamous Avatar

    Why on earth is Sweden given as a model for the rest of the world?

    Egalia, a new state-sponsored pre-school in Stockholm, is dedicated to the total obliteration of the male and female distinction. There are no boys and girls at Egalia—just “friends” and “buddies.” Classic fairy tales like Cinderella and Snow White have been replaced by tales of two male giraffes who parent abandoned crocodile eggs. The Swedish Green Party would like Egalia to be the norm: It has suggested placing gender watchdogs in all of the nation’s preschools. “Egalia gives [children] a fantastic opportunity to be whoever they want to be,” says one excited teacher. (It is probably necessary to add that this is not an Orwellian satire or a right-wing fantasy: This school actually exists.)

    There are a lot of “progressives” wanting to do the same thing here.

    The problem with Egalia and gender-neutral toy catalogs is that boys and girls, on average, do not have identical interests, propensities, or needs. Twenty years ago, Hasbro, a major American toy manufacturing company, tested a playhouse it hoped to market to both boys and girls. It soon emerged that girls and boys did not interact with the structure in the same way. The girls dressed the dolls, kissed them, and played house. The boys catapulted the toy baby carriage from the roof. A Hasbro manager came up with a novel explanation: “Boys and girls are different.”

    Different??? Whooda thunk?

    They are different, and nothing short of radical and sustained behavior modification could significantly change their elemental play preferences.

    Unless you’re in homosexual-friendly California. There it’s legal to inject your little boy with hormone blockers to keep him from becoming masculine but illegal to give him therapy to modify his homosexual behavior.

    Among our close relatives such as vervet and rhesus monkeys, researchers have found that females play with dolls far more than their brothers, who prefer balls and toy cars. It seems unlikely that the monkeys were indoctrinated by stereotypes in a Top-Toy catalog. Something else is going on.

    Yeah. It’s called “Biology”. For all their talk about how religious people are anti-science, “progressives” sure do latch onto some bizarre ways of thinking.

  8. Hamous Avatar

    Rand Paul is on board with my idea:

    I have yet another thought on how we can fix this. Why don’t we let the Democrats pass whatever they want? If they are the party of higher taxes, all the Republicans vote present and let the Democrats raise taxes as high as they want to raise them, let Democrats in the Senate raise taxes, let the president sign it and then make them own the tax increase. And when the economy stalls, when the economy sputters, when people lose their jobs, they know which party to blame, the party of high taxes. Let’s don’t be the party of just almost as high taxes.

  9. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Obamacare passed with no Republican votes. Obama owns Obamacare. Everybody hates Obamacare. How far did that get us?
    Oh, wait.
    The one chance we had to capitalize on that was pizzed away when we ran a moderate candidate who’s own Socialized Medecine plan was the basis of Obamacare.
    Its a good tactic, but I have absolutely no faith that the Republican Party will be able to capitalize on it. Given thier track record, Obama will likely end up with a third term.

  10. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I’m almost with you.
    What I’d like to see is the Republican plan to trim loopholes & deductions. If the mortgage deduction were limited to the first $300-500k of loan value, it would hit the people in all those high-property value blue states who vote for these people really hard.
    As it is, aside from small business owners, the really high-income crowds tend to be found in the Northeast and in California. Let’s also make sure we close loopholes on the industries that pay those high salaries to entertainers & athletes. They pushed for this mess; let them feel it.

  11. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Give up. Raise tax rates on the rich if only to prevent them from being raised on everybody else.
    Anything “Republican” is covered with such negative perception in this country right now that even a good idea will be met with disdain and derision.
    Its better to hold on to the good ideas until such time that they will be welcomed by the electorate as the solution to the problem they’ve gotten themselves into.
    Burn the Republican Party down. Start over. The brand is toxic.

  12. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    Take the test.
    Eight quotes from Thomas Jefferson – true or false ?
    From the WSJ:

    To counter what she calls rampant misattribution, Ms. Berkes is fighting the Internet with the Internet. She has set up a “Spurious Quotations” page on the Monticello website listing bogus quotes attributed to the founding father, a prolific writer and rhetorician who was the principal author of the Declaration of Independence.
    The fake quotes posted and dissected on Monticello.org include “My reading of history convinces me that most bad government has grown out of too much government.” In detailed footnotes, Ms. Berkes says it resembles a line Jefferson wrote in an 1807 letter: “History, in general, only informs us what bad government is.” But she can’t find that exact quotation in any of his writings.

  13. Hamous Avatar

    Obamacare passed with no Republican votes. Obama owns Obamacare. Everybody hates Obamacare. How far did that get us?

    The intense pain of Broncocare has yet to hit.
    If Republicans hold up the Dem agenda in the House they will get blamed for the pending recession. Give ’em what they want. Vote present on all tax and spend legislation. They own the economy lock, stock, and barrel. There’s no way to credibly blame anyone but Bronco.

  14. Hamous Avatar

    Burn the Republican Party down. Start over. The brand is toxic.

    I burned my Voter ID so I don’t care one way or the other. But I will add this – the Republican Party is not the problem. The Democrat Party is not the problem. We elected them all. It’s the American electorate that’s the problem. We like big government and have proven it in every single election over and over.

  15. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I don’t care.
    Obama is dreamy.

  16. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Any prognostications as to what will the feds do now that Wash. State has legalized and taxed marijuana? Will the feds go in guns a blazing to maintain the failed policy of prohibition and the Marijuana prohibition industrial complex it has set up to stop people from smoking weed? Will the population of Wash state increase with a plethora of stoners? Will the makers of Pringles, Doritos and other favorite munchie foods set up new factories in Wash State to minimize transportation costs? Will the overall tax base and tax revenues increase in that state as a result of this legislation?

  17. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    From a story on NPR yesterday, the Feds basically adopt a hands-off attitude in states where the herb is “legal” AND there is some sort of regulatory/tax scheme in place for it. In states where it is “legal” but with no regulatory scheme, they pretty much act like they do in the “illegal” states.

  18. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    So what will be the net effect on the economy in WA State? Will the legislation cause their ranking to be (get) high(er)?

  19. squawkbox Avatar

    Today is a good day to take your best shots at me if you wish.
    THE CARPENTERS ARE HERE!!!!! WHOOHOO
    Red letter day i am in a good mood.

  20. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    From a post by Glenn Reynolds.
    Go here for the links.

    BOY, THESE REPUBLICANS SURE ARE SORE LOSERS:

    At a certain point in the near future, if the current oligarchy cannot be removed via the ballot, direct political action may become an urgent and compelling mission. It may then be necessary for many people in many walks of life to put their bodies on the line. For the moment, however, although pressing and profound questions have arisen about whether the current government is even legitimate, i.e., properly elected, there still remains a chance to remove this government peacefully. . . .
    This is all terrible and rather fantastic to contemplate. But what assurances have we that it is not all quite plausible? Having discarded the principles that Jefferson & Co. espoused, the current regime seems capable of anything. I know that my imagination is a feverish instrument. But are we not living in feverish times, in times of the unthinkable?

    Oh, my mistake: That’s Cary Tennis in Salon from 2005. Though Tennis was roundly, and rightly, mocked at the time, this — like the talk of secession from people on the left back then, and people on the right now — does illustrate the significance of Jerry Pournelle’s observation about the dangers of an overly-powerful government:

    We have always known that eternal vigilance is the price of freedom. It’s worse now, because capture of government is so much more important than it once was. There was a time when there was enough freedom that it hardly mattered which brand of crooks ran government. That has not been true for a long time — not during most of your lifetimes, and for much of mine — and it will probably never be true again.

  21. Hamous Avatar

    Here’s why I am resigned to the fact that the American electorate is collectively lost in the wilderness. To many people think this idiot is smart:

    Let’s get one thing straight: America is not facing a fiscal crisis.

    The danger is that the deficit will come down too much, too fast.

    Remember, the U.S. government can’t run out of cash (it prints the stuff), so the worst that could happen would be a fall in the dollar, which wouldn’t be a terrible thing and might actually help the economy.

    Yes, our still-depressed economy needs more fiscal stimulus.

    As a five year old I used to think like Paulie K:
    Little Hamous: Dad, can I get a new bicycle?
    Dad: No, Sparky. We don’t have any money for a new bicycle.
    Little Hamous: But you can just write a check!
    Dad: (sigh) One day you’ll understand, son. Unless you’re Paul Krugman.

  22. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    ** yawn **
    The US and other governments are telling us once again that some backwater country has WMDs so we have an excuse to go in and take their oil.

  23. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I burned my Voter ID so I don’t care one way or the other. But I will add this – the Republican Party is not the problem. The Democrat Party is not the problem. We elected them all. It’s the American electorate that’s the problem. We like big government and have proven it in every single election over and over.

    We just went through a year where a collection of well paid campaign consultants, elected officials, party leaders, pundits, polsters, media relations hacks, and strategists all told us that we would see Republican turn out in record numbers sufficient to get us north of 300 Electoral Votes, and they all got incredibly rich getting it incredibly wrong.
    The Republican Party and those that direct it ARE the problem. They keep using these people and they keep losing—badly.

  24. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    so the worst that could happen would be a fall in the dollar, which wouldn’t be a terrible thing and might actually help the economy

    Right, but what about all those old people who are trying to live off their savings? That kind of inflation would kill them.

  25. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    That kind of inflation would kill lots of people. Anyone working but living hand-to-mouth is already having to choose between food, gasoline, utility bills, etc.

  26. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #26 mharper42
    But there’s no inflation! The guvverment sez so.
    At least that may be true if you exclude fuel and (especially) food, which the gov’t does because they’re “too volatile”.

  27. Hamous Avatar

    We just went through a year where a collection of well paid campaign consultants, elected officials, party leaders, pundits, polsters, media relations hacks, and strategists all told us that we would see Republican turn out in record numbers sufficient to get us north of 300 Electoral Votes, and they all got incredibly rich getting it incredibly wrong.
    The Republican Party and those that direct it ARE the problem. They keep using these people and they keep losing—badly.

    So the voters didn’t vote for their candidates because the consultants, et.al. were wrong? That don’t make a lick of sense.

  28. Hamous Avatar

    There were a dozen declared candidates in the Republican primaries. Almost any one of them would probably have been better than RMoney. The voters chose him.

  29. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Even The One Man Who Could Save America?

  30. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #30 Hammy
    Darn it, I thought Romney could and would win. I did not think any other R candidate could possibly win. Now, I did foolishly support Herman Cain for a while. Taught me I needed to know more about any new candidate, before sending ’em a check.

  31. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #30:

    The voters chose him.

    I beg to differ with you Hammie. Advertising works, that is why we have been inundated with it for all of our lives. The DMC pushed Rmoney as hard as they could during the primaries because they knew that he would be one of the easiest to beat. The double standard with which they treated Herman Cain vs Slick Willie is appalling. How about the complete in the tank for JugEars vs Hitlery. If we fail to recognize the power that still resides in the DMC and act accordingly, we will almost always lose.

  32. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Almost any one of them would probably have been better than RMoney.

    No, not a winner in the bunch.

  33. Hamous Avatar

    Advertising works, that is why we have been inundated with it for all of our lives.

    You’re making my case for blaming the voters.

  34. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    I guess 30 years ago, the voters were still smart enough to see how Reagan would be worlds better than Jimmy Carter term #2. I’m not comparing Romney to Reagan, but I’m stll dumbfounded how Obammy won. Geez, so many people are no longer able to see where their own interest lies.

  35. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    So the voters didn’t vote for their candidates because the consultants, et.al. were wrong? That don’t make a lick of sense.

    What doesn’t make sense is to keep making milionaires out of consultantas and pundits who continually recommend and support candidates and tactics to elect them that don’t friggin work.
    You act as if the purpose of having a Party is not to elect candidates.
    Of course, as a Republican, I can see how you think that way because that’s been the end result thus far.
    The greatest success the Party has had recently has come from a political group that is not only operating outside the Party, but is roundly disdained by Party stalwarts who work against them.

  36. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Geez, so many people are no longer able to see where their own interest lies.

    That’s why Obama won. People recognized where their interest was most likely to be met.

  37. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I guess 30 years ago, the voters were still smart enough to see how Reagan would be worlds better than Jimmy Carter term #2. I’m not comparing Romney to Reagan, but I’m stll dumbfounded how Obammy won. Geez, so many people are no longer able to see where their own interest lies

    You should compare Romney to Reagan because thirty years ago voters had a clear choice. This time around the candidate in Reagan’s spot had the same gun control, abortion, and Socialized Medecine record as the guy in Carter’s spot did. Dood mentioned that a week or so ago: the Republicans did not present a candidate sufficiently different from the opponent to provide a clear picture of what thier proposals and priorities are.
    But that’s because today’s Republican Party is the party of Smaller Big Government run better and a little cheaper than the Democrats.

  38. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    One of the contradictory facts about the 2012 election:
    Out of 33 Republican US Senate candidates, Romney drew more votes than all but 8 of them in their respective states. Even Texas gave Ted Cruz 1% less votes than it did for Mitt.

  39. MontyMan Avatar
    MontyMan

    Those people proposing that our elected representatives and senators protest by voting “present” or even voting for socialist policies, please consider this question. If you were elected by thousands of citizens of your community, or of your state, having heard their input through mail, email, town hall meetings, handshaking, contributions to your campaign, and at the ballot box, would you really turn your back on all your promises to vote as a small-government conservative, and cast a socialist vote? Maybe it’s nieve but I’d like to think I would stick to my guns on this one.

  40. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    In the present negotiations, the responsibility of the Republicans who were elected to contain the rise in taxes have two choices:
    1. Oppose Obama’s proposed tax rate increase on the rich—which will result in Sequestration to kick in—which results in taxes going up for everybody, back to the Clinton levels—–something Obama wants anyway.
    2. Go along with Obama on raising tax rates for the rich, thus preventing raising taxes on everybody else—at least for now.
    Either way they go, Obama gets what he wants.
    Those friggin geniuses in the Republican Party that bear no responsibility negotiated a postion two years ago that’s resuilted in a win/win scenario for Obama today.
    But, its the voters fault.

  41. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #42 MontyMan
    Agreed.

  42. Hamous Avatar

    Those friggin geniuses in the Republican Party that bear no responsibility negotiated a postion two years ago that’s resuilted in a win/win scenario for Obama today.

    You mean the same friggin geniuses that the voters just reelected overwhelmingly?

    But, its the voters fault.

    Unless you’re on the “the election was stolen” bandwagon, yes.

  43. Tedtam Avatar

    Popping in just briefly. I am awaiting my potential call to sit on a muni court jury.
    I worked until past 1:00 am last night, didn’t fall asleep ’til past two. I was actually feeling nauseated when I finally decided to quit work. This, on top of my other recent 2:00 am work shifts recently, have left me vewy, vewy tired. I can feel it behind my eyeballs, and if someone here wants to scootch over and let me lay down on one of the hard church pews they have here in the jury assembly room, I might just fall asleep.
    But I think they frown on that.
    In the meantime, I’m trying to get some Medicare stuff done for my Mom. I finally got the info I needed from the nursing home late yesterday, and I couldn’t get to it as I had planned before I went to bed. Fortunately, my netbook fits inside my little bag today, and I’m putting it to work.
    /hoping they don’t call me and I get to go home soon..

  44. Hamous Avatar

    Pain is the only thing that will wake up the electorate.

  45. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    OK–
    We’ll just give up on fixing the Republican Party.
    Its time to burn it down.
    Its the voters fault anyway.

  46. Hamous Avatar

    We get the government we deserve.

  47. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    No.
    I’m tired of Republicans blaming everybody but themselves for thier failures.

  48. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    New blood? Welcome.

  49. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    There is no new blood in the Republican Party, and there won’t be. The leadership has so tarnished the brand that only the worst candidates will come forward.

  50. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I am awaiting my potential call to sit on a muni court jury.

    “When you go into court you are putting your fate into the hands of twelve people who weren’t smart enough to get out of jury duty.”
    — Norm Crosby

  51. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #52 Sarge
    He was talking about MontyMan.

  52. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #42 MontyMan
    Welcome.

  53. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I was welcoming Monty to the couch.

  54. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    You mean the same friggin geniuses that the voters just reelected overwhelmingly?

    We were hoodwinked!
    Tricked by a clever ruse.

  55. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    We were hoodwinked!
    Tricked by a clever ruse.

    We weren’t offered anything better. We had a Party that protects the ones who most need to be taken out.

  56. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    There are no Karl Roves, no Dan Senors, no consultants, no money men, no lobbyists, none of that.
    Just voters and candidates.
    It would be nice if that were true, but only the truly naive beleive that.

  57. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    It’s not my fault.
    Everyone know’s it’s GJT’s fault.

  58. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    We get the government we deserve.

    I am not very bright. I hear that all the time. Just what the he|| is that supposed to mean??

  59. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    And I always thought Norm Crosby was a putz.

  60. Hamous Avatar

    51% of the voters just elected a man that, even by the most casual observer, is a socialist if not a flat-out Marxist. Did they elect him because Mitt Romney isn’t conservative enough?

  61. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    80% of the 51 per cent don’t know what a socialist is.

  62. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    We weren’t offered anything better. We had a Party that protects the ones who most need to be taken out.

    We had a choice of 10-15 reasonably viable candidates. 9-14 of them lost. What you’re saying is that Romney was foisted on us by teh establishment, when Candidate X would have been a much better choice.
    Candidate X may have been the second coming of Thomas Jefferson and George Washington rolled into one, but for whatever reason he either got fewer votes than Romney or chose not to run at all. What can we do about that? Find him, hold a gun to his head, and march him off to Iowa & New Hampster and force him to run?

  63. Hamous Avatar

    John Boehner has never gotten less than 60% in any election. Did Karl Rove cause that? SJL has never been below 70%. That ain’t Dan Senor’s fault.

  64. Hamous Avatar

    80% of the 51 per cent don’t know what a socialist is.

    I suppose that’s the Republicans’ fault too.

  65. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    don’t know what a socialist is

    Everyone knows that all politicians are socialist.
    They have to go to all those social events to get more votes, so they have to be pretty socialist.

  66. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    The demo-terds did all they could (and successfully, I might add) to tank the economy. Then they increased the benefits (unemployment,et al) to such a degree that one made more money and tax free than what they could working. When you get to that point, why would a rational person work? They got bribed and brainwashed to believe that it is better morally to be on the gov’t teat than earn thier own keep. Anybody of success was demonized and accused of theft. The demo-terds now own this situation and it will be our downfall. The Ds will now likely drive our ship of state firmly into the iceberg and we will sink.

  67. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    Either we have the government that we (as a collective nation) have voted for – or democracy doesn’t work. I don’t think anyone here is silly enough to suggest that there are currently people in office who were not legitimately elected. So, if you don’t like the guy (or guys) in office, it’s because the majority of the voters didn’t agree with your choice.
    If we have bad leaders it’s because we did a bad job of picking them.
    Blaming the Republican party, or the “Washington insiders”, or the “media elite”, is useful only in that it serves to explain (maybe) why the rest of the country was stupid enough to not agree with you.

    We get the government we deserve.

    Means exactly that. We, as a nation, get the government that we vote into office. If we choose wisely we get a good government, if we choose poorly we get a bad government – and we deserve it for making unwise decisions.

  68. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    When you get to that point, why would a rational person work?

    I am getting old and tired.
    And thinking about getting rational, too.

  69. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    70 fat albert
    Why do I and the other 49% deserve it?

  70. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    51% of the voters just elected a man that, even by the most casual observer, is a socialist if not a flat-out Marxist. Did they elect him because Mitt Romney isn’t conservative enough?

    Yes. because if he was Conservative enough, the voters would have seen a clear distinction bewteen him and Obama.

    We had a choice of 10-15 reasonably viable candidates. 9-14 of them lost. What you’re saying is that Romney was foisted on us by teh establishment, when Candidate X would have been a much better choice.

    I was referring to those friggin geniuses in the Republican Party that bear no responsibility negotiated a postion two years ago that’s resulted in a win/win scenario for Obama today.

    John Boehner has never gotten less than 60% in any election. Did Karl Rove cause that? SJL has never been below 70%. That ain’t Dan Senor’s fault.

    In this case, the election that matters is the one in Congress that elects the Leadership. The only registered voters upon whim the blame can therefore be laid are those currently serving in Congress.

    80% of the 51 per cent don’t know what a socialist is.

    I suppose that’s the Republicans’ fault too.

    It absolutely is. The way to do it is to present a candidate who is so different from the Socialist that it is obvious to even the most uninformed voter. It also falls to the message men, media consultants, tacticians and strategists who have been making hundreds of thousands of dollars doing anything other than educating the electorate. They spend m,ore time and effort telling everybody that doing that is the exact wrong thing to do.
    The problem is that these guys make money whether they win the election or not.

  71. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I’ll also add that the other election that matters is who runs the Party. The elctorate is not consulted in that case, either.
    And the winners get to pick who runs campaigns.

  72. Hamous Avatar

    Why do I and the other 49% deserve it?

    I didn’t say YOU deserve it. I said WE deserve it. The royal “we”, you know, the editorial?

  73. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    For all the reasons we suspect, this is just a real bad idea.

    HEADLINE: Black boxes in cars raise privacy concerns
    WASHINGTON –
    Many motorists don’t know it, but it’s likely that every time they get behind the wheel, there’s a snitch along for the ride.
    In the next few days, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is expected to propose long-delayed regulations requiring auto manufacturers to include event data recorders – better known as “black boxes” – in all new cars and light trucks. But the agency is behind the curve. Automakers have been quietly tucking the devices, which automatically record the actions of drivers and the responses of their vehicles in a continuous information loop, into most new cars for years.
    When a car is involved in a crash or when its airbags deploy, inputs from the vehicle’s sensors during the 5 to 10 seconds before impact are automatically preserved. That’s usually enough to record things like how fast the car was traveling and whether the driver applied the brake, was steering erratically or had a seat belt on.

    If the data is being recorded, it can be transmitted without our knowledge or consent. This represents a gross invasion of privacy. Imagine, the feds or a municipality simply downloads your data while you are driving and combining GPS signals with the cars sensors, they could mail you a speeding ticket(s) every wissin day. The slope doesn’t have to be slippery to get there.

  74. Hamous Avatar

    The way to do it is to present a candidate who is so different from the Socialist that it is obvious to even the most uninformed voter.

    Ron Paul was about as different from Obama as you can get. He also had beaucoup money and a monstrous grass roots organization. Yet he only ended up with 158 total delegates in the Republican primary.

  75. Hamous Avatar

    Freedom and little-R republican government aren’t the norm. They’re a tiny, blessed anomaly. A blip of relief in 5,000 years of pyramids and gas chambers. We’ve reverted back to the long-term trend of human history — one tribe beats other tribe and takes all their sh_t. – Matt Bramanti

  76. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    The way to do it is to present a candidate who is so different from the Socialist that it is obvious to even the most uninformed voter.

    Please describe what such a candidate might look like. I’m curious. In the last primary we had Rick Perry, Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul, Rick Santorum, and Herman Cain. Each one was substantively different from Mitt Romney. So, what happened? We tried different and the unwashed masses gave us Mitt instead.

  77. Hamous Avatar

    The only registered voters upon whim the blame can therefore be laid are those currently serving in Congress.

    Who (repeatedly) elected them?

  78. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Please describe what such a candidate might look like. I’m curious. In the last primary we had Rick Perry, Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul, Rick Santorum, and Herman Cain. Each one was substantively different from Mitt Romney. So, what happened? We tried different and the unwashed masses gave us Mitt instead.

    I agree.
    It is impossible for the right candidate to come forward from within the Republican Party.
    That is precisely why it needs to be burned down.

  79. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    The only thing more miraculous than Group Captain Alfred ‘Ken’ Gatward not getting shot down was that his airplane managed to take off with his big brass testicules on board.

  80. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    It is impossible for the right candidate to come forward from within the Republican Party.

    I suspect it has less to do with teh party establishment than with the >two-year public rectal exam he’d be given. Thorough. With great vigor.

  81. Hamous Avatar

    It is impossible for the right candidate to come forward from within the Republican Party.
    That is precisely why it needs to be burned down.

    Burn it down. But it won’t matter because voters will elect the person who is going to give them the most stuff.
    Pain and suffering is the only thing that will wake us up from our stupor.

  82. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    The reason the Ds are so successful at getting re-elected is because they are diligent in making sure that people are comfortable getting public assistance. When they are no longer comfortable while not working things have a chance to change. When Ben Franklin, the guy on the hunnert, was asked what to do to help people out of poverty, he said “make sure they are uncomfortable while in it.”

  83. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    It is impossible for the right candidate to come forward from within the Republican Party.

    So, what you’re saying is that it doesn’t matter who the candidate is, or what they stand for – no matter how good they are, they’re going to lose and it’s the Republican party’s fault.

  84. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I cannot provide a link from this device. Go over to The New Criterion and read a piece titled “The Blog Mob”, by Joseph Rago.
    It’s always nice to watch someone eat crow with dignity.

  85. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #87 shannon

    Suggestions were tendered as to the autoerotic activities I ought to perform.

  86. Hamous Avatar

    I no longer buy the argument that the electorate is wistfully longing for an ideal conservative candidate and if he will just present himself there will be much rejoicing (yay!) And I certainly don’t buy that the chuckleheads running the Republican Party are powerful enough to suppress the perfect candidate from rising. We’ve seen several instances over the last few years where the party bosses were told to pee up a rope by voters in the primaries and conservative candidates were nominated. Some of them won in the general election (if they were in a particularly conservative district) but a lot of them lost to the Democrat promising more free stuff.

  87. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    89 wb
    I tried to do that with the recently “self-deported” guy.
    With dignity, of course.

  88. Hamous Avatar

    #93

    ES, mofo.

    That doesn’t sound too “autoerotic” to me 😉

  89. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    94
    Caught that one, didya ?
    Well, in the end I gave him the send off he deserved.

  90. squawkbox Avatar

    I am convinced that what we saw this last election was the result of a sea change of moral attitudes. Obama was elected because he promised free stuff, we have 3 states that legalized marijuana, what constitutes marriage has been changed in some states. At least a bit more than half the electorate voted for a man that lied his arse off, could not did not run on his record. Millions of professing Christians ignored the morals that were once taught in the church concerning abortion and voted for Obama. In short they all turned toward the gubment for their security blanket. The population centers on the left coast thru Ohio and Pennsylvania won the day. Fear and Loathing in the United States won.
    Then on the “right” Romney left many issues on the table, just like McCain, Romney really did nothing to court even the tea party vote much less the LuapNor voters, we lost that bunch. Many “right” voting Christians stayed home because of Romney’s religion. Not only that but the vaunted Romney machine collapsed getting the vote out. Major problems with communication and computers, the system collapsed. Oh and Romney coasted he had stopped being the fire brand we saw in that one debate. Granted there was a huge storm that pounded the left coast and prolly sucked some of the energy from Romney’s campaign, but yanno I really do not think that made a difference. I do not think that Christie’s back slapping of Obama had that much effect either. Frankly the Republicans got snookered and got their tails whipped. THEY blew it.
    NO ONE can tell me what happened. Oh I see blame going around, but at least three weeks before the election people that were going to vote “R” were just absolutely sure that Romney was gonna win. There were hints, strong hints from the pundits that there could be a landslide win for Romney. Karl Rove on election night as the dominos began to fall kept saying over and over again “just wait”. We did and we lost. America lost. What happened?
    One thing I will tell ya that happened is 40% were going to vote for obama, 40% were going to vote Romney and the majority of 20% of the unsoiled undecideds proved themselves to be what I have always said they were…………….Liberals, make no doubt about it. Romney should have won and he should have won big time……………… if we were back in the 1940’s and 50’s. but alas we are in 2012.

  91. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    So, what you’re saying is that it doesn’t matter who the candidate is, or what they stand for – no matter how good they are, they’re going to lose and it’s the Republican party’s fault.

    Precisely.
    That is because the brand has become so completely tainted that folks will turn off the message just because they are Republicans.
    That, in a nutshell, is why Romney lost. All of the polls show that the majority of voters still favor cutting spending and taxes. The number of people who hate Obamacare continues to grow. As with the last election, the People did not vote FOR Obama, the voted AGAINST the Republican.
    If you want to place blame on an individual, its George Bush, but more precisely its the Party machinery and unelected leadership (people who make a profit from politics whther the win or lose) that he and daddy and Jebby built that is the problem. The paradox with Romney is that he could not suffciently separate himself from Bush, and he was not sufficiently different from Obama to be able to win the election. For the next two election cycles that will be the case. After this last election, there is no reason to really expect that pain will be what brings the electorate to thier senses. They endured 4 years of pain and decided that they would rather stay with the Devil they know than have a Republican President.
    The most successful third party in the history of the Nation was built at a time when one of the two major parties alienated a large voting block within thier ranks. They were regarded as being too closely identified with an issue that was unpopular in many places in the country, particularly the South. It was formed after a disasterous election where a man who was unmarried in Victorian society was elected. He replaced another man from the same party who was actually drunk at his Inauguration, yet the people still voted for him.
    The issue was Slavery. The new Party was called the Republican Party, and four years after they formed in the wake of James Buchanan’s victory they elected a man President.
    History is repeating itself.
    The Republicans should take note—its getting mighty warm.

  92. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I am convinced that what we saw this last election was the result of a sea change of moral attitudes. Obama was elected because he promised free stuff, we have 3 states that legalized marijuana, what constitutes marriage has been changed in some states. At least a bit more than half the electorate voted for a man that lied his arse off, could not did not run on his record. Millions of professing Christians ignored the morals that were once taught in the church concerning abortion and voted for Obama. In short they all turned toward the gubment for their security blanket. The population centers on the left coast thru Ohio and Pennsylvania won the day. Fear and Loathing in the United States won.

    Actually, what carried both the Gay Marriage and Pot issues was the Liberty arguments voiced on thier behalf. Those two issues led credence to the bogus “War on Women” accusation.
    Conservatism did not lose this last election. That’s because a Conservative was not on the ballot.

  93. squawkbox Avatar

    Conservatism did not lose this last election. That’s because a Conservative was not on the ballot.

    Yup and I agee with your observation on the “R” party brand.
    i listened to DeMint give his vision for what he is going to do at the Heritage Foundation. Frankly it sounded to me like a whole bunch of marketing. That is fine if you got people in the brand that believe the hype. The corporate “R”s do not believe in Conservatism much less original intent. “It” does not matter to BoehnerCo that Romney lost. They got their seat at the table and now will work to make sure the MSM likes them. They have no power but the illusion of power and that is just fine. They are at the table and the electorate? Who cares. See ya in 2 to 4 years and just make sure you vote “R” again.

  94. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    DeMint is the kind of guy who should be a Leader in the Republican Party. He just expressed his opinion about how much success he’s likely to meet wirking within the Party. He did it with his feet.
    He won’t be alone.

  95. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Sarge
    You have more faith in the electorate than I do.

  96. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    101 Shannon says:
    December 7, 2012 at 4:35 pm
    Sarge
    You have more faith in the electorate than I do.

    And more than the Republican Party does as well.

  97. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #87 Shannon
    Great link. I remember well Rago’s The Blog Mob and I was one of those thousands (?) who took to the comments section and heaped abuse upon the poor kid.
    It’s good to see he came around even won a Pulitzer last year for his editorial writing, read mostly on the internet. Heh.

  98. Hamous Avatar

    Let’s not bicker and argue about ooooh killed ooooh.
    The bottom line is the American electorate has decided they want to be taken care of by the Nanny state. Boehner, Rove, etc. are just convenient “escape goats”. That ain’t nobody’s fault but the voters.

  99. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Does it not occur to you guys that all this talk only serves to keep the freaking idiots running the freaking party in power?
    You can stay with the guys who told you that the “electable” guy was the one who signed a permanent gun ban and designed the first Socialized Medecine program in the country. You can stay with the ones who said that he’d be easy to defend because almost anybody was going to beat Barack Obama. You can keep supporting the guys that send fat checks to Karl Rove and Dan Senor. You can still defend the Party that is purging Conservatives from Congressional Committees they belong in if the Nation is going to avoid going down the Socialist Fiscal path.
    Either burn that useless hulk of something that used to stand for something, or get rid of the guys at the top that have turned it into a money machine for a bunch of poltical hacks who only care about how much money they’re going to make off the election instead of winning it.

  100. Hamous Avatar

    Damn! Got dragged in again. Just a reminder, I am no longer a “likely voter” so I don’t really give a damn whose fault it is since the outcome is always the same. Off to do something productive for a while.

  101. squawkbox Avatar

    Shannon

    Sarge
    You have more faith in the electorate than I do.

    As much as I rail on the electorate (another rant for another time maybe) I do believe (and it will take years of prep) believe that a candidate with a strong conservative message (ala Reagan, not another Reagan) and who is a decent moral individual can win and begin to LEAD this country out of this morass. And there in lies the greater problem, if such a person were to show we would need a succession of leaders to follow through on the vision. Reagan made in roads to a stronger nation but GB I did not follow through. Then we got Clinton and GB II.
    But the curmudgeon in me says it ain’t gonna happen anyway. I think we have passed the tipping point and only God in his mercy can turn this ship upright and keep her from sinking to nothing.

  102. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #64 Shannon nails it:

    80% of the 51 per cent don’t know what a socialist is.

  103. squawkbox Avatar

    Damn! Got dragged in again.

    Yeah I know what ya mean. I did it for so long it is like quitting smoking. Going cold turkey is tough.
    Soooooo
    Howdy y’all. My name is Squawkbox and I am addicted to politics.
    Welcome Squawkbox to PA. Politics Anonymous. Yanno admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery.
    Sniff Sniff I am so ashamed. I have tried to quit, but when I go to these websites I just cannot control the urge.
    Thas okay Squawk. You are not alone. We are here to help.
    What?
    We are here to help.
    OH CRAP That is what the gubment says…………. ARRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHHH

  104. Hamous Avatar

    I think we have passed the tipping point

    buh-buh-buh-bingo. No pain, no gain.

  105. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Sqk
    The bad guys have owned the education system and the media for two generations – with no end in sight.
    Only the Lord can save this country. And considering His record/methods in dealing with strays, I’m running low on hope these days.

  106. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    Squawk:
    With all due respect to the Gipper, the fact is that he won against Jimmy Carter who was at best a weasel as President. Between his general negative attitude and the albatross of the Iranian Hostage Crisis hanging around his neck, there was no way for Carter to win.
    His second opponent, Fritz Mondale, wasn’t much better. I think a decent case could be made for Reagan losing to Obama.
    People are all for cutting spending – as long as it’s not their pet program under the axe. People are all about cutting taxes – especially if they get the biggest cut.

  107. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    FoxNews is reporting on the purge of conservatives from certain committees.
    A spokesman for the Club For Growth says it’s a good thing. It proves that the leadership never was interested in conservative principles and is only interested in having 281 votes when they get around to deciding what their principles are.

  108. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    But I do have hope I’ll be around a little longer to watch all the fun.
    Got my 6 month ‘blood work’ back today….
    Total cholestrol 129
    Kidney and liver function: good
    Digoxin level: good
    Testosterone: good

  109. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    People are all for cutting spending – as long as it’s not their pet program under the axe.

    That’s why an across-the-board cut is the only thing that has even the glimmer of a prayer.

  110. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #107 Squawk

    I think we have passed the tipping point

    I think we are in uncharted territory. Until we see how the undecided dolts that voted for Obama Redux react when things get ever so much worse than they are now, I have no idea whether harsher reality can cattle-prod enough of them to “save us”. We won’t have a chance to try anything till 2014.

  111. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    114
    And most importantly:
    PSA – 1.1

  112. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Get some rest, woman. Please do not stay up working till 2 a.m. every night.

  113. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Buck up, toots.

  114. Hamous Avatar

    Fritz Mondale

    Reminded me of the bumper sticker you used to see back in ’84. Fritz and Tits. Three Boobs in the White House.

  115. squawkbox Avatar

    MHarper

    I think we are in uncharted territory.

    We are in uncharted territory as far as this country goes I.E. we have never been here before. Now having said that, this country is following the exact template set by other countries that have crashed and burned through history. (Note allusion to Rome) Furthermore we have other countries TODAY that are/have been going through what we are now expiriencing. Humans be humans. Here is some basic facts of life:
    (1) This country is no different than any other country when it comes to stuff happening. All the things that the people of this country believe “can’t happen here” well it can, it will and it is.
    (2) People are going to gravitate to someone be it God, the gubment or themselves for security. History has shown that the last two always end up in disaster. People are naturally going to go where the stuff is. We all look to someone else for peace and security be it in our jobs, spouse, cliques, you name it. No one is self sufficient.
    (3) People are naturally selfish. Forget this crap that people are basically good, we ain’t. We learn to be unselfish and then practice that. We learn to be good and practice that. Left to our own designs humanity will destroy itself. (See #2 above)
    (4) Laws are only as good as those in charge of enforcing them.
    (5) This country has gotten away from being a REPUBLIC to being a democracy which leads to socialism or communism which demand a tyrant to run.
    So i make no apologies nor do I back away form my comment, there is no waiting and seeing, look at Greece, Britain, OLD Rome……………………..
    I think we have passed the tipping point
    /Sorry to be such a Debbie Downer

  116. squawkbox Avatar

    Fat Albert
    You are kidding right? So Obama is like I dunno William Henry Harrison or something? When Ford won the nomination “everyone’ bemoaned that it should have been Reagan. Reagan’s nomination alone was a sign that the American people were capable of fixing a tragic screwup.

    People are all for cutting spending – as long as it’s not their pet program under the axe. People are all about cutting taxes – especially if they get the biggest cut.

    If Reagan wasn’t anything he was a L E A D E R. Reagan did not get all he wanted but he got a good start, GHB did not followup on the vision cause GHB had “other ideas”. Playing fantasy politics here, but if we had 2 successors to Reagan anywhere near Reaganesque we would not be where we are today.
    Reagan set the template how to win and he did not just win he did all he could to further his vision for this country. BUT there are too many nay-bobs that scream it won’t work therefore it won’t work. Now there is a concept, when was the last time we had a candidate that could express a vision for this country and a method to achieve that vision? All I have heard for the past 20+ years is bovine processed hay from all our anointed candidates.
    But yeah you are right, Reagan and his ideology is so last century. We have evolved form that troglodytish era.

  117. squawkbox Avatar

    Crap done killed the blog. Wulp y’all have a nice evening.
    /Back to my cave I go
    /Where is that dang cigar cutter?

  118. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Sheesh, that looks like a Kraken lair, not a run-of-the-mill cave.

  119. phil Avatar
    phil

    John Boehner’s fiscal cliff proposal.

  120. phil Avatar
    phil

    /Where is that dang cigar cutter?

    Dunno but I found a corkscrew, a wine glass and the Beringer Cabernet.
    How are ya Brother Squawk? Hope all is well.

  121. squawkbox Avatar

    Looks like ya got ‘er covered Bro Phil
    Hangin there fairly on this side of the world. How about your own self?
    If’n i do not catch ya before hand, hope you and yours have a great Christmas.

  122. squawkbox Avatar

    Christmas music I want to hear from Geddy
    “Fly By” Silent Night
    We Three �Farewell to Kings�
    O� Come, �O� Basteria�
    Have Yourself A Merry �Countdown�
    Joy to the “New World Man�
    O Christmas �The Trees�
    “By-Tor” The Red Nose Reindeer
    Hark The Herald �Workin� them Angels� Sing
    It�s The Most �Dreamline� Time Of The Year
    Santa Claus Is a �Working Man� Coming To Town
    Little Drummer �Analog Kid�
    Grandma Got Run Over By A �Caravan�
    Deck The �Subdivisions�
    The �2112� Days Of Christmas
    I Saw Mommy Kissing �Tom Sawyer�
    Frosty �The Enemy Within�
    Its Beginning To Look A lot Like �The Camera Eye�

  123. phil Avatar
    phil

    Doing ok Bro Squawk–working hard and relaxing harder.
    Merry Christmas to you and your family as well and that’s a great Christmas song wish list for Geddy.

  124. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    #30;

    There were a dozen declared candidates in the Republican primaries. Almost any one of them would probably have been better than RMoney.

    Except for Bachman and Cain who destroyed their campaigns by their own ineptness, Gingrich who lost his debating mojo and was a lousy organizer, Santorum who could not decide what the focus of his campaign would be, and for Paul who, well, is Paul. Then there was Pawlenty.
    /Just my take.

  125. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Howdy y’all. My name is Squawkbox and I am addicted to politics.

    [CLAP, CLAP, CLAP] We’re all friends here and will be here for you as a support group.
    Sincerely;
    Politics Anomynous
    (I swear I wrote that before reading the rest of your post)

  126. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    The bad guys have owned the education system and the media

    By and large that is corrrrrect.

  127. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    This time around the candidate in Reagan’s spot had the same gun control, abortion, and Socialized Medecine record as the guy in Carter’s spot did as Governor Reagan did.

    🙂
    (Reagan’s gun control was actually as President but that would have ruined the flow of my strike through response)

  128. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    #41;

    One of the contradictory facts about the 2012 election:
    Out of 33 Republican US Senate candidates, Romney drew more votes than all but 8 of them in their respective states. Even Texas gave Ted Cruz 1% less votes than it did for Mitt.

    Doh!!!

  129. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    #131;
    For the ones I know (which is most of them) an exellent selections! Don’t know who Geddy is though.

  130. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Come to think of it, last year I didn’t listen to nearly ther amount of Christmas songs I should have and normally do this time of the year. And I’m repeating the same omission this year. I needs to rectify that situation.

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