Wednesday Controversial Sammich Open Comments

What is it with sammiches that makes them so controversial? The GCS camps are firmly – some say irrevocably – divided between those who believe that a GCS must be actually grilled and the philistines who think that a pale substitute made in a toaster and a microwave (what kind of evil sorcery is this?) is adequate.
We now turn to the Monte Cristo. A sammich consisting of ham and cheese grilled in butter, then dusted with powdered sugar. An optional side of grape jam is provided for dipping.

To aid in discussion, here is a debate on the merits of this uniquely American take on the French croque monsieur.


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  1. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Racist midget Spike Lee deliberately puts elderly couple’s lives in danger. Arrest him now! No justice no peace!

  2. Hamous Avatar

    Racist midget Spike Lee deliberately puts elderly couple’s lives in danger. Arrest him now! No justice no peace!

  3. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Spike Lee, Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson, et al are what they are, do what they do. The silence from their enablers is reprehensible and infuriating.

  4. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Spike Lee, Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson, et al are what they are, do what they do. The silence from their enablers is reprehensible and infuriating.

  5. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    There are some runaway slaves out there though.

    H/T – Michael Berry Show

  6. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    There are some runaway slaves out there though.
    H/T – Michael Berry Show

  7. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Sugary sammiches – Why wouldn’t you just put some ham slices in an Italian Cream cake?

    Dispicable.

  8. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Sugary sammiches – Why wouldn’t you just put some ham slices in an Italian Cream cake?
    Dispicable.

  9. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I agree. Although I do like sausage rolled around in pancake syrup.

  10. Hamous Avatar

    I agree. Although I do like sausage rolled around in pancake syrup.

  11. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Although I do like sausage rolled around in pancake syrup.

    Well, that’s just good ole American breakfast fare right there. Some poofy frenchy girlyman sammich with powdery stuff all over it for lunch is another story.

  12. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Although I do like sausage rolled around in pancake syrup.

    Well, that’s just good ole American breakfast fare right there. Some poofy frenchy girlyman sammich with powdery stuff all over it for lunch is another story.

  13. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Before the chain closed in Houston, the Monte Cristo was my favorite sandwich at Bennigan’s. However, a Monte Cristo is not just grilled, it is then coated in a batter and deep-fat fried. At Bennigan’s, the dipping sauce was raspberry jam.

    Their menu symbol for this sammich was a little cardiac unit gurney. Also note the ashtray on the table in my link. 🙂

  14. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Before the chain closed in Houston, the Monte Cristo was my favorite sandwich at Bennigan’s. However, a Monte Cristo is not just grilled, it is then coated in a batter and deep-fat fried. At Bennigan’s, the dipping sauce was raspberry jam.
    Their menu symbol for this sammich was a little cardiac unit gurney. Also note the ashtray on the table in my link. 🙂

  15. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    In a previous life, Katfish could whip up a mighty fine Monte Cristo.

  16. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    In a previous life, Katfish could whip up a mighty fine Monte Cristo.

  17. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #8 – Ya beat me to it Brother! Not sure if the building still stands – but one of my teenage high school employers – the Country Cupboard in Town & Country village had those on the menu……………….that place later morphed into a Burger King

    dangggggggggggggggggggggggggggg that was coon’s ages ago!

  18. Katfish Avatar

    #8 – Ya beat me to it Brother! Not sure if the building still stands – but one of my teenage high school employers – the Country Cupboard in Town & Country village had those on the menu……………….that place later morphed into a Burger King
    dangggggggggggggggggggggggggggg that was coon’s ages ago!

  19. Hamous Avatar

    #2 Timbo: A reasonable person could reasonably conclude that Spike Lee RECKLESSLY ENDANGERED that elderly couple by erroneously tweeting their address as the one belonging to Zimmerman. The goal of tweeting the address was for a racist, enraged mob to lynch Zimmerman. Lynching was wrong when it happened during the last century and it is just as wrong in this one.
    I would think that the elderly couple has a very powerful law-suit potential action in this case. I can not imagine a jury of reasonable people coming to a different conclusion; remember, I said reasonable so that would exclude the likes of Al, Jesse, Sheila, and Shammy.

  20. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #2 Timbo: A reasonable person could reasonably conclude that Spike Lee RECKLESSLY ENDANGERED that elderly couple by erroneously tweeting their address as the one belonging to Zimmerman. The goal of tweeting the address was for a racist, enraged mob to lynch Zimmerman. Lynching was wrong when it happened during the last century and it is just as wrong in this one.
    I would think that the elderly couple has a very powerful law-suit potential action in this case. I can not imagine a jury of reasonable people coming to a different conclusion; remember, I said reasonable so that would exclude the likes of Al, Jesse, Sheila, and Shammy.

  21. Hamous Avatar

    Who could have possibly seen this one coming; Dennis Rodman is broke and sick?

  22. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Who could have possibly seen this one coming; Dennis Rodman is broke and sick?

  23. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    G’Morning All

    Sugar on a ham & cheese? Get a rope!

  24. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    G’Morning All
    Sugar on a ham & cheese? Get a rope!

  25. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    What’s with these Hollywood kooks?

    Mad Men star January Jones eats the placenta of her son Zack

    http://abcnews.go.com/Health/video/january-jones-placenta-meal-sparks-debate-16003924

    She talks about how nutritious it is and all the other mammals do it. Animals do it for 2 reasons, one, animal babies have no odor and the placenta is licked off so predators can’t find the baby, and two, the only tool a mama has is her tongue so she licks it off. The only tool she has to clean her tongue is to swallow.

    I then commented to wife Dee that maybe she should predigest the food also. Danged if Dee didn’t find this

    Alicia Silverstone Feeds Baby Her Chewed Food!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEwbxS3OYLo&feature=related

    You just can’t make this stuff up.

  26. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    What’s with these Hollywood kooks?

    Mad Men star January Jones eats the placenta of her son Zack

    http://abcnews.go.com/Health/video/january-jones-placenta-meal-sparks-debate-16003924
    She talks about how nutritious it is and all the other mammals do it. Animals do it for 2 reasons, one, animal babies have no odor and the placenta is licked off so predators can’t find the baby, and two, the only tool a mama has is her tongue so she licks it off. The only tool she has to clean her tongue is to swallow.
    I then commented to wife Dee that maybe she should predigest the food also. Danged if Dee didn’t find this
    Alicia Silverstone Feeds Baby Her Chewed Food!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEwbxS3OYLo&feature=related
    You just can’t make this stuff up.

  27. Hamous Avatar

    for all you pig-eaters out there, ya gotta try this:
    take a couple pounds of boneless country style pork ribs, cut in cubes about 2″, season with garlic salt and cayenne pepper and sear in a black iron skillet. You are not trying to cook the ribs yet, just getting a good sear on them. Chop an onion and carmelize in the skillet you just seared the meat in (and no, do not wash the thing between the ribs and onions, you want the grease and little bits in there). Dump the seared pig, onions and a can of unsweetened pineapple chunks with the juice into a pot and let simmer, covered for about an hour or so. Dish out with a spoon onto a couple pieces of bread and serve open faced. It is called a sloppy pig sammich.

  28. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    for all you pig-eaters out there, ya gotta try this:
    take a couple pounds of boneless country style pork ribs, cut in cubes about 2″, season with garlic salt and cayenne pepper and sear in a black iron skillet. You are not trying to cook the ribs yet, just getting a good sear on them. Chop an onion and carmelize in the skillet you just seared the meat in (and no, do not wash the thing between the ribs and onions, you want the grease and little bits in there). Dump the seared pig, onions and a can of unsweetened pineapple chunks with the juice into a pot and let simmer, covered for about an hour or so. Dish out with a spoon onto a couple pieces of bread and serve open faced. It is called a sloppy pig sammich.

  29. Hamous Avatar

    Airbus A380s are having some serious problems with the Rolls Royce Trent engines. This is after cracks in the wings, definitely not cool. No wonder 0 decided to not allow Boeing to build another plant in a non-union state, they have to keep it fair for Airbus. One of the comments had it pretty good:

    Do you know why the British never succeeded in the computer business?
    They couldn’t figure out how to get a computer to leak oil.

  30. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Airbus A380s are having some serious problems with the Rolls Royce Trent engines. This is after cracks in the wings, definitely not cool. No wonder 0 decided to not allow Boeing to build another plant in a non-union state, they have to keep it fair for Airbus. One of the comments had it pretty good:

    Do you know why the British never succeeded in the computer business?
    They couldn’t figure out how to get a computer to leak oil.

  31. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #15 Bones

    Add some veggies and vinegar to the skillet and and you got sweet ‘n sour pork.

  32. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #15 Bones
    Add some veggies and vinegar to the skillet and and you got sweet ‘n sour pork.

  33. Tedtam Avatar

    Liberal woman on display.

    Another one from the “Duh” Department.

  34. Tedtam Avatar

    Liberal woman on display.
    Another one from the “Duh” Department.

  35. Katfish Avatar

    Wonder if sarge got ate last night?

  36. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Wonder if sarge got ate last night?

  37. Katfish Avatar

    #17 otl
    The veggies are already there from when the pig ate them.

  38. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #17 otl
    The veggies are already there from when the pig ate them.

  39. Katfish Avatar

    Who knew katfish was a regular Wolfgang Puck?

  40. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Who knew katfish was a regular Wolfgang Puck?

  41. Tedtam Avatar

    #19 WB

    If not by gators, possibly by skeeters.

    Those dang blood-suckers will drain me dry if I let them.

    That brings up a memory….years ago, when Hubby was just Boyfriend, his family was building a house (almost completed) on the San Bernard River, near Brazoria (the town). He told me of walking into the garage one day and wondering why someone painted the bottom half of the walls black. There was a perfectly straight line of black from about 3 ft high, down to the floor, all around the garage walls.

    They were mosquitoes. /shudder

    I think that was the same year that some cattle died from lack of blood. Literally, drained of blood where they stood. /shudder

  42. Tedtam Avatar

    #19 WB
    If not by gators, possibly by skeeters.
    Those dang blood-suckers will drain me dry if I let them.
    That brings up a memory….years ago, when Hubby was just Boyfriend, his family was building a house (almost completed) on the San Bernard River, near Brazoria (the town). He told me of walking into the garage one day and wondering why someone painted the bottom half of the walls black. There was a perfectly straight line of black from about 3 ft high, down to the floor, all around the garage walls.
    They were mosquitoes. /shudder
    I think that was the same year that some cattle died from lack of blood. Literally, drained of blood where they stood. /shudder

  43. Hamous Avatar

    More comments from the link in #16 above:

    High quality global journalism requires investment. Please share this article with others using the link below, do not cut & paste the article. See our Ts&Cs and Copyright Policy for more detail. Email [email protected] to buy additional rights. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/bd40545c-780a-11e1-b437-00144feab49a.html#ixzz1qQHAQ9pp

    Airbus is a political entity. Designing & manufacturing significant aircraft assemblies all over the planet and then transporting them in special airplanes, ships, barges etc. to Toulouse for final assmbly is commercially non-viable.
    The result of this political nonsense is huge financial pressure on employees & suppliers.
    The burden of accounting paperwork and pressure to deliver to tight time schedules is killing all attempts at sensible engineering.
    The design and construction of the aircraft is suffering to the extent that flight safety is endangered.
    Engineers are disillusioned and de-motivated. Most of the really competent engineers have retired, or left the industry, to be replaced by Muppets: Multiple Power-Point Executive T**ts.

    This guy appears to be quite the realist, definitely an old school, do-it-right kind of guy.

    We, the Airbus fabrication and assembly workers, would like the world to know we conscientiously build the A380 to the highest specifications possible. Alu-aqbar.

    I’m pretty sure this one was intended to be snarky, and darned well done at that.

  44. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    More comments from the link in #16 above:

    High quality global journalism requires investment. Please share this article with others using the link below, do not cut & paste the article. See our Ts&Cs and Copyright Policy for more detail. Email [email protected] to buy additional rights. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/bd40545c-780a-11e1-b437-00144feab49a.html#ixzz1qQHAQ9pp
    Airbus is a political entity. Designing & manufacturing significant aircraft assemblies all over the planet and then transporting them in special airplanes, ships, barges etc. to Toulouse for final assmbly is commercially non-viable.
    The result of this political nonsense is huge financial pressure on employees & suppliers.
    The burden of accounting paperwork and pressure to deliver to tight time schedules is killing all attempts at sensible engineering.
    The design and construction of the aircraft is suffering to the extent that flight safety is endangered.
    Engineers are disillusioned and de-motivated. Most of the really competent engineers have retired, or left the industry, to be replaced by Muppets: Multiple Power-Point Executive T**ts.

    This guy appears to be quite the realist, definitely an old school, do-it-right kind of guy.

    We, the Airbus fabrication and assembly workers, would like the world to know we conscientiously build the A380 to the highest specifications possible. Alu-aqbar.

    I’m pretty sure this one was intended to be snarky, and darned well done at that.

  45. Hamous Avatar

    The EPA is working diligently to make energy in all forms more expensive in the USA for no benefit to the average American or for pollution concerns. It does, however, put tremendous power in the hands of the EPA and makes us less competitive on a global basis. In short, it takes food off of the individual tables across America.

  46. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    The EPA is working diligently to make energy in all forms more expensive in the USA for no benefit to the average American or for pollution concerns. It does, however, put tremendous power in the hands of the EPA and makes us less competitive on a global basis. In short, it takes food off of the individual tables across America.

  47. Hamous Avatar

    #24: What an amazing transformation; misery to joy in a couple of weeks. Did you notice the tail wagging?

  48. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #24: What an amazing transformation; misery to joy in a couple of weeks. Did you notice the tail wagging?

  49. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Since it is recipe time…
    Great for hot summer day…
    Mrs. Shannon finally found a use for acorn squash. Cut squash in half, deseed.
    Place squash cut side down on a shallow baking sheet that has a small amount of water.
    Cook in 375 over for 20 minutes. In sauce pan combine butter, a bit of brown sugar, white wine and chopped, fresh strawberries (original recipe called for any dried fruit).
    Dump off water from baking sheet, turn squash over and ladle fruit mixture into cavity.
    Return to oven and bake some more.
    Refrigerate squash till chilled.

    Very, very good. And I’m not much of an acorn squash fan.

  50. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Since it is recipe time…
    Great for hot summer day…
    Mrs. Shannon finally found a use for acorn squash. Cut squash in half, deseed.
    Place squash cut side down on a shallow baking sheet that has a small amount of water.
    Cook in 375 over for 20 minutes. In sauce pan combine butter, a bit of brown sugar, white wine and chopped, fresh strawberries (original recipe called for any dried fruit).
    Dump off water from baking sheet, turn squash over and ladle fruit mixture into cavity.
    Return to oven and bake some more.
    Refrigerate squash till chilled.
    Very, very good. And I’m not much of an acorn squash fan.

  51. Tedtam Avatar

    #26 Bone

    Did you notice the tail wagging?

    That was the absolute best part. The best.

  52. Tedtam Avatar

    #26 Bone

    Did you notice the tail wagging?

    That was the absolute best part. The best.

  53. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    Pizza should never be reheated in a microwave oven.

  54. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    Pizza should never be reheated in a microwave oven.

  55. Hamous Avatar

    #29: Bob420: Welcome back. Cold pizza is pretty hard to beat for breakfast, especially when you have a couple eggs fried over easy along side. No need to bother with a heater type thing for “used” pizza, right out of the fridge works just fine.

  56. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #29: Bob420: Welcome back. Cold pizza is pretty hard to beat for breakfast, especially when you have a couple eggs fried over easy along side. No need to bother with a heater type thing for “used” pizza, right out of the fridge works just fine.

  57. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    It’s good to be back. Cold pizza and warm beer brings back some grand college memories.

  58. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    It’s good to be back. Cold pizza and warm beer brings back some grand college memories.

  59. Tedtam Avatar

    Handsome Son’s best friend from his school days lives just down the street. My kids’ friends call me “Mom,” which I like, so he does, too. In return, I call him “The Second Son I Never Had”.

    Second Son is now a manager at the local hardware store. Now that they have a postal station inside the store, I get to see him more often, which makes me happy. He surprised me day before yesterday with some plants which were about to be thrown out. I got four large tomato plants, one cilantro, and two cucumbers. I planted them yesterday. If Second Son doesn’t come and get the two tomato plants he said he wanted, I may plant those, too!

    It’s good to have a Second Son.

    Handsome has started a new job with an HVAC company, and he’s loving it. His busboy job should be over this week, and he’ll go full-time with the a/c work. They’ll pay for his tuition to get certified at San Jac in the fall. I’m glad he’s happy. I always thought he’d be like his daddy, working with his hands; it just took him a while to figure it out for himself.

  60. Tedtam Avatar

    Handsome Son’s best friend from his school days lives just down the street. My kids’ friends call me “Mom,” which I like, so he does, too. In return, I call him “The Second Son I Never Had”.
    Second Son is now a manager at the local hardware store. Now that they have a postal station inside the store, I get to see him more often, which makes me happy. He surprised me day before yesterday with some plants which were about to be thrown out. I got four large tomato plants, one cilantro, and two cucumbers. I planted them yesterday. If Second Son doesn’t come and get the two tomato plants he said he wanted, I may plant those, too!
    It’s good to have a Second Son.
    Handsome has started a new job with an HVAC company, and he’s loving it. His busboy job should be over this week, and he’ll go full-time with the a/c work. They’ll pay for his tuition to get certified at San Jac in the fall. I’m glad he’s happy. I always thought he’d be like his daddy, working with his hands; it just took him a while to figure it out for himself.

  61. Hamous Avatar

    Dumbax on display. In Congress, and yes, these days that would be redundant.

  62. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Dumbax on display. In Congress, and yes, these days that would be redundant.

  63. Tedtam Avatar

    Oh, and my chocolate mint is starting to take off. I was watering my garden and I could smell it as I was watering. Chocolate & Mint. My favorite. Well, one of.

  64. Tedtam Avatar

    Oh, and my chocolate mint is starting to take off. I was watering my garden and I could smell it as I was watering. Chocolate & Mint. My favorite. Well, one of.

  65. Tedtam Avatar

    Do it. Do it now. Do it for the country. Do it —- for the chirrens.

    The Museum of Government Waste

    Breitbart is here.

  66. Tedtam Avatar

    Do it. Do it now. Do it for the country. Do it —- for the chirrens.
    The Museum of Government Waste
    Breitbart is here.

  67. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #35 – BRAVO! Go MsHubbard GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

  68. Katfish Avatar

    #35 – BRAVO! Go MsHubbard GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

  69. Hamous Avatar

    #32:

    Handsome has started a new job with an HVAC company

    If he shows any competence at this profession, and he stays around here, he is almost guaranteed employment for life.

  70. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #32:

    Handsome has started a new job with an HVAC company

    If he shows any competence at this profession, and he stays around here, he is almost guaranteed employment for life.

  71. Hamous Avatar

    HEADLINE:Justices poised to strike down entire healthcare law

    All I can say is “Oh He!! Yeah!”

    There is no severability clause in the ACA, so if any part is declared Unconstitutional the whole thing goes down in flames to He!! where it belongs.

  72. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    HEADLINE:Justices poised to strike down entire healthcare law
    All I can say is “Oh He!! Yeah!”
    There is no severability clause in the ACA, so if any part is declared Unconstitutional the whole thing goes down in flames to He!! where it belongs.

  73. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Good afternoon Hamsters. Another cool (58) and foggy morning gives way to high clouds and now an overcast afternoon. Rain chances are minimal–here at least. Pollen count is extreme for live oak blossoms, and they continue to fall like snow on everything with in reach. Must sweep the sidewalk and driveway again.

    Maybe Spike Lee could hire Dennis Rodman as a bodyguard or something so Dennis can catch up on his bills. 🙂

    #24 TT, Yea for the folks who rescued Fiona and gave her back her sight.
    “Whatosever you do for the least of my brothers you do for Me.”

  74. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Good afternoon Hamsters. Another cool (58) and foggy morning gives way to high clouds and now an overcast afternoon. Rain chances are minimal–here at least. Pollen count is extreme for live oak blossoms, and they continue to fall like snow on everything with in reach. Must sweep the sidewalk and driveway again.
    Maybe Spike Lee could hire Dennis Rodman as a bodyguard or something so Dennis can catch up on his bills. 🙂
    #24 TT, Yea for the folks who rescued Fiona and gave her back her sight.
    “Whatosever you do for the least of my brothers you do for Me.”

  75. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    19 wagonburner says:

    March 28, 2012 at 9:40 am

    Wonder if sarge got ate last night?

    I have returned safe and sound, thanks to Scout The Wonder Dog. I will be writing a Trip Report for the Hammock forum which I will post here when complete.

    I do need to take this opportunity to publicly apologize to Scout The Wonder Dog. That smell I had been attributing to his passing of gas has actually been the fertlizer being sprayed on the cotton field across the road. Note to self: close the windows that face the road.

  76. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    19 wagonburner says:
    March 28, 2012 at 9:40 am
    Wonder if sarge got ate last night?

    I have returned safe and sound, thanks to Scout The Wonder Dog. I will be writing a Trip Report for the Hammock forum which I will post here when complete.
    I do need to take this opportunity to publicly apologize to Scout The Wonder Dog. That smell I had been attributing to his passing of gas has actually been the fertlizer being sprayed on the cotton field across the road. Note to self: close the windows that face the road.

  77. Hamous Avatar

    I predict that the abomination known as The Affordable Care Act, aka obamacare will go down in flames 6-3 with all the wimminzes on the court voting in favor.

  78. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    I predict that the abomination known as The Affordable Care Act, aka obamacare will go down in flames 6-3 with all the wimminzes on the court voting in favor.

  79. Dooood Avatar

    I just want to remind everyone that when Theophilus Eugene “Bull” Connor, Birmingham Commissioner of Public Safety, threw the Rev. Martin Luther King into jail in the spring of 1963, he was a duly elected National Committeeman to the Democratic National Convention.

  80. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    I just want to remind everyone that when Theophilus Eugene “Bull” Connor, Birmingham Commissioner of Public Safety, threw the Rev. Martin Luther King into jail in the spring of 1963, he was a duly elected National Committeeman to the Democratic National Convention.

  81. Hamous Avatar

    #42: The Democrat party in Texas had to be sued in Federal court to allow blacks to vote in the D primary, where the R primaries were always open to all registered voters.

  82. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #42: The Democrat party in Texas had to be sued in Federal court to allow blacks to vote in the D primary, where the R primaries were always open to all registered voters.

  83. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    42 and 43,

    Just how many Republicans were there at that time in the Deep Democratic South? I wonder where all those Dixiecrats ended up after the Democrat Party began to change?

    Just how long did Texas go after Reconstruction before electing the first Republican Governor? If you wanted to serve in public office; you ran as a Democrat.

    Everything you said was true, but political parties evolve and change and that includes the Republican Party as well.

    Don’t like the platform your (or any for that matter) party supports; then just wait a while and it will swing the other way.

    Simple

  84. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    42 and 43,
    Just how many Republicans were there at that time in the Deep Democratic South? I wonder where all those Dixiecrats ended up after the Democrat Party began to change?
    Just how long did Texas go after Reconstruction before electing the first Republican Governor? If you wanted to serve in public office; you ran as a Democrat.
    Everything you said was true, but political parties evolve and change and that includes the Republican Party as well.
    Don’t like the platform your (or any for that matter) party supports; then just wait a while and it will swing the other way.
    Simple

  85. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Does anyone remember when Mark Steyn was taken before the Canadian Idiocy Human Rights Commission for an article he wrote in Canada?

    Here’s another example of the idiocy.
    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/alibno-rhino-beer-earls-restaurants-target-human-rights-194009606.html

  86. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Does anyone remember when Mark Steyn was taken before the Canadian Idiocy Human Rights Commission for an article he wrote in Canada?
    Here’s another example of the idiocy.
    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/alibno-rhino-beer-earls-restaurants-target-human-rights-194009606.html

  87. Hamous Avatar

    The state department has officially raised the middle finger to Israel with this headline:

    State Dept. Spokesman Refuses to Say Whether Jerusalem Is the Capital of Israel

    Let’s see, Jerusalem was the capital of Israel in ancient times, it is mentioned as THE PLACE over 100 times in Scripture, both old and new, it is never mentioned in the koran, Israel today claims Jerusalem as its capital, and our state dept spokes-t%rd can’t/won’t answer a simple question? That pretty much telegraphs the position that this state dept will give up Jerusalem to the mooslimes and get nothing in return for Israel except more terrorism.

  88. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    The state department has officially raised the middle finger to Israel with this headline:

    State Dept. Spokesman Refuses to Say Whether Jerusalem Is the Capital of Israel

    Let’s see, Jerusalem was the capital of Israel in ancient times, it is mentioned as THE PLACE over 100 times in Scripture, both old and new, it is never mentioned in the koran, Israel today claims Jerusalem as its capital, and our state dept spokes-t%rd can’t/won’t answer a simple question? That pretty much telegraphs the position that this state dept will give up Jerusalem to the mooslimes and get nothing in return for Israel except more terrorism.

  89. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #46 They’re waiting until after the election. You know, when our Nubian Prince has more flexibility.

  90. Hamous Avatar

    #46 They’re waiting until after the election. You know, when our Nubian Prince has more flexibility.

  91. Hamous Avatar

    #47: HALF Nubian Prince, 1/2 brain-dead liberal jackass.

  92. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #47: HALF Nubian Prince, 1/2 brain-dead liberal jackass.

  93. Tedtam Avatar

    Speaking of half-bdlj.

    Spike Lee has no comment and no apology for the elderly couple he chased from their home in fear by tweeting their address.

    I would spit, but there’s not enough saliva in the world.

  94. Tedtam Avatar

    Speaking of half-bdlj.
    Spike Lee has no comment and no apology for the elderly couple he chased from their home in fear by tweeting their address.
    I would spit, but there’s not enough saliva in the world.

  95. Hamous Avatar

    #49 I really hope that couple sues him for all he’s worth, dollars I mean, morally he is not worth the powder it would take to blow him straight to the home of what he worships.

  96. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #49 I really hope that couple sues him for all he’s worth, dollars I mean, morally he is not worth the powder it would take to blow him straight to the home of what he worships.

  97. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Mrs. Shamaal loves Croque monsieurs. She’s not big on sauces and such, so I can plan she’ll order one everytime we stop for lunch. Pretty much a ham and cheese in a panini type press.

  98. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Mrs. Shamaal loves Croque monsieurs. She’s not big on sauces and such, so I can plan she’ll order one everytime we stop for lunch. Pretty much a ham and cheese in a panini type press.

  99. Dooood Avatar

    #44 Simple

    And your point is exactly what ?

    That the Democratic Party is somehow excused for its virulent racist behavior because there was no other party for bigots to join in the South ?

    That all political parties vacillate between racist and non-racist ideological poles ?

    That Southern racists ran like wildfire to the Republican Party because Dick Nixon played the dog whistles like bagpipes ?

    Once again, Simple, you prove to be one of the most clueless people to ever man a keyboard.

  100. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #44 Simple
    And your point is exactly what ?
    That the Democratic Party is somehow excused for its virulent racist behavior because there was no other party for bigots to join in the South ?
    That all political parties vacillate between racist and non-racist ideological poles ?
    That Southern racists ran like wildfire to the Republican Party because Dick Nixon played the dog whistles like bagpipes ?
    Once again, Simple, you prove to be one of the most clueless people to ever man a keyboard.

  101. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    #44 Simply Simon
    This is what Hubert Humpry said at the 1948 Democratic Convention

    There will be no hedging, and there will be no watering down — if you please — of the instruments and the principles of the civil-rights program.
    My friends, to those who say that we are rushing this issue of civil rights, I say to them we are 172 years late. To those who say that this civil-rights program is an infringement on states’ rights, I say this: The time has arrived in America for the Democratic Party to get out of the shadow of states’ rights and to walk forthrightly into the bright sunshine of human rights. People — human beings — this is the issue of the 20th century. People of all kinds — all sorts of people — and these people are looking to America for leadership, and they’re looking to America for precept and example.

    Many consider this the turning point in the Democrat Party’s commitment to equality for all.

  102. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    #44 Simply Simon
    This is what Hubert Humpry said at the 1948 Democratic Convention

    There will be no hedging, and there will be no watering down — if you please — of the instruments and the principles of the civil-rights program.
    My friends, to those who say that we are rushing this issue of civil rights, I say to them we are 172 years late. To those who say that this civil-rights program is an infringement on states’ rights, I say this: The time has arrived in America for the Democratic Party to get out of the shadow of states’ rights and to walk forthrightly into the bright sunshine of human rights. People — human beings — this is the issue of the 20th century. People of all kinds — all sorts of people — and these people are looking to America for leadership, and they’re looking to America for precept and example.

    Many consider this the turning point in the Democrat Party’s commitment to equality for all.

  103. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Once again, Simple, you prove to be one of the most clueless people to ever man a keyboard.

    I didn’t get the memo that today was irony Wednesday

  104. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Once again, Simple, you prove to be one of the most clueless people to ever man a keyboard.

    I didn’t get the memo that today was irony Wednesday

  105. Hamous Avatar

    #52:

    That the Democratic Party is somehow excused for its virulent racist behavior because there was no other party for bigots to join in the South ?

    That behavior is still practiced by the Ds today, in the form of Welfare, AFDC, foodstamps, and other programs to keep them on the gov’t plantation instead of working and being productive. The bought votes for peoples lives.

  106. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #52:

    That the Democratic Party is somehow excused for its virulent racist behavior because there was no other party for bigots to join in the South ?

    That behavior is still practiced by the Ds today, in the form of Welfare, AFDC, foodstamps, and other programs to keep them on the gov’t plantation instead of working and being productive. The bought votes for peoples lives.

  107. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Michael Berry has posted the ultimate side-by-side comparison pictures of Trayvon and Zimmerman: http://www.ktrh.com/pages/michaelberry.html?article=9960953

  108. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Michael Berry has posted the ultimate side-by-side comparison pictures of Trayvon and Zimmerman: http://www.ktrh.com/pages/michaelberry.html?article=9960953

  109. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    This is good, you got the ossified cranium on your side.

  110. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    This is good, you got the ossified cranium on your side.

  111. Hamous Avatar

    Shammy, isn’t there a freeway you should be playing on?

  112. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Shammy, isn’t there a freeway you should be playing on?

  113. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    This is funny, former Black Panther Bobby Rush, got the bums rush while citing Bible passages and wearing a hoodie on the House of Representative’s floor. There’s a rule against hats.

    Hears something you’ve never heard a Republican say before, ‘‘members need to remove their hoods or leave the floor.’’

  114. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    This is funny, former Black Panther Bobby Rush, got the bums rush while citing Bible passages and wearing a hoodie on the House of Representative’s floor. There’s a rule against hats.
    Hears something you’ve never heard a Republican say before, ‘‘members need to remove their hoods or leave the floor.’’

  115. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Snappy comeback!
    texpat you have quite the peanut gallery.

  116. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Snappy comeback!
    texpat you have quite the peanut gallery.

  117. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Important anniversary today, in 1898 the Supreme Court ruled that a child born in the United States is a US citizen under the fourteenth amendment.

    All person born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

  118. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Important anniversary today, in 1898 the Supreme Court ruled that a child born in the United States is a US citizen under the fourteenth amendment.

    All person born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

  119. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    “Hears something you’ve never heard a Republican say before, ‘‘members need to remove their hoods or leave the floor.’’ ”

    ummm, Because the Kluxers were Democrats and the majority during the days?

  120. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    “Hears something you’ve never heard a Republican say before, ‘‘members need to remove their hoods or leave the floor.’’ ”
    ummm, Because the Kluxers were Democrats and the majority during the days?

  121. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    Chopped red potatoes and garlic, they sure go well with anything. Yumm.

  122. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    Chopped red potatoes and garlic, they sure go well with anything. Yumm.

  123. phil Avatar
    phil

    When can you scam folks out of 200 million dollars and get away with it?

    A) When you’re a democrat

    B) When you’re Jon Corzine

    C) When you’re Jon Corzine and a democrat

    D) All of the above.

  124. phil Avatar
    phil

    When can you scam folks out of 200 million dollars and get away with it?
    A) When you’re a democrat
    B) When you’re Jon Corzine
    C) When you’re Jon Corzine and a democrat
    D) All of the above.

  125. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Will we survive the attack of the killer snake? What other dangers await us? Will we be safe in the dynamite sheds ahead? Will Scout the Wonder Dog prevail over the dangers that lurk on the trail?

    Both Gypsy and I are on the edge of our seats. 😉

    Well written and even instructive.

  126. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Will we survive the attack of the killer snake? What other dangers await us? Will we be safe in the dynamite sheds ahead? Will Scout the Wonder Dog prevail over the dangers that lurk on the trail?

    Both Gypsy and I are on the edge of our seats. 😉
    Well written and even instructive.

  127. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #66 Sarge 😀

  128. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #66 Sarge 😀

  129. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #66 Sarge
    One question: what is that pack or vest you have strapped on Scout the Wonder Dog? Does he sherpa on your campouts?

  130. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #66 Sarge
    One question: what is that pack or vest you have strapped on Scout the Wonder Dog? Does he sherpa on your campouts?

  131. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    70 mharper42 says:

    March 28, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    #66 Sarge
    One question: what is that pack or vest you have strapped on Scout the Wonder Dog? Does he sherpa on your campouts?

    Well, first off, its a Super Hero costume. I don’t strap it on him, he jumps into a phone booth and comes out with it on.

    Secondly, Scout The Wonder Dog advises everybody going into the woods carry thier own food and water, and he leads by example.

  132. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    70 mharper42 says:
    March 28, 2012 at 8:19 pm
    #66 Sarge
    One question: what is that pack or vest you have strapped on Scout the Wonder Dog? Does he sherpa on your campouts?

    Well, first off, its a Super Hero costume. I don’t strap it on him, he jumps into a phone booth and comes out with it on.
    Secondly, Scout The Wonder Dog advises everybody going into the woods carry thier own food and water, and he leads by example.

  133. Dooood Avatar

    #54 shamaal

    First, Hubert Humphrey was the last honest, decent Democrat in American politics. Citing his 1948 speech is a pathetic reach in trying to justify the subsequent criminal activities of the Southern wing of the Democratic Party and their willing enablers in the North.

    Oh, where to start with someone besotted with delusions and blinkered by their own ignorance ?

    I grew up in the South and you did not. That is a place to begin. You don’t know what it was really like and I did and I do. I was born in Houston 60 years ago.

    My family fought desperately in the trenches for desegregation, for the repeal of poll taxes, for the right of every black citizen to vote freely and unencumbered, for the right of their children to attend schools available to everyone else. My grandfather was the old liberal Texas Senator Ralph Yarborough’s campaign manager and my parents organized the protests at UT in Austin over the law school’s rejection of Heman Sweatt, the first black applicant there and the case that made Thurgood Marshall originally a name in black households across this country in the late 40s.

    (the only southern politicians to vote for the 1964 Civil RIghts Act were Texas Senator Yarborough and Representative George H.W. Bush)

    Yeah, I know.

    I remember being ostracized in my own neighborhood as a young child over their treatment of our beloved household help. My parents, in the 1950s, took a teenage black girl down and got her a Social Security card and paid in every week because my father said it as unfair for domestic help to be deprived of that benefit when they could no longer work. They continued to do so for every one who worked in our home since my parents were small business owners who could not be home with their children.

    I remember the fights, my disputes, my grandfather as president of the local school board being a social outcast over allowing black children into that rural school district. It was ugly and the image of those white and colored drinking fountains is seared into my memory. I always, always drank out of the colored one as a child.

    My mother, the last long holdout in my family to migrate to conservatism finally found her nemesis in Bill Clinton and told me, in 1992, she could never vote for a man she couldn’t trust. The rest of my extended family, old Texas liberal Democrats, had long ago abandoned the fraudulent Democratic Party. My family is a classic example of the tectonic shift of Americans from the Democrats to Republicans. And it had absolutely nothing to do with race.

    You can try all you want with snark and cynicism to portray it differently, but you know, I was there and so were millions of others. We know the trope is false and a lie.

    In summation, I would say you haven’t the slightest idea what you are talking about and, like most lame Leftwing Yankee fools, you rely on tired cliches to support whatever that is you construe as an argument.

    I recently described you as a worthy adversary. Well, I retract that and have to find you a jackass in the first and foremost definition of the word.

  134. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #54 shamaal
    First, Hubert Humphrey was the last honest, decent Democrat in American politics. Citing his 1948 speech is a pathetic reach in trying to justify the subsequent criminal activities of the Southern wing of the Democratic Party and their willing enablers in the North.
    Oh, where to start with someone besotted with delusions and blinkered by their own ignorance ?
    I grew up in the South and you did not. That is a place to begin. You don’t know what it was really like and I did and I do. I was born in Houston 60 years ago.
    My family fought desperately in the trenches for desegregation, for the repeal of poll taxes, for the right of every black citizen to vote freely and unencumbered, for the right of their children to attend schools available to everyone else. My grandfather was the old liberal Texas Senator Ralph Yarborough’s campaign manager and my parents organized the protests at UT in Austin over the law school’s rejection of Heman Sweatt, the first black applicant there and the case that made Thurgood Marshall originally a name in black households across this country in the late 40s.
    (the only southern politicians to vote for the 1964 Civil RIghts Act were Texas Senator Yarborough and Representative George H.W. Bush)
    Yeah, I know.
    I remember being ostracized in my own neighborhood as a young child over their treatment of our beloved household help. My parents, in the 1950s, took a teenage black girl down and got her a Social Security card and paid in every week because my father said it as unfair for domestic help to be deprived of that benefit when they could no longer work. They continued to do so for every one who worked in our home since my parents were small business owners who could not be home with their children.
    I remember the fights, my disputes, my grandfather as president of the local school board being a social outcast over allowing black children into that rural school district. It was ugly and the image of those white and colored drinking fountains is seared into my memory. I always, always drank out of the colored one as a child.
    My mother, the last long holdout in my family to migrate to conservatism finally found her nemesis in Bill Clinton and told me, in 1992, she could never vote for a man she couldn’t trust. The rest of my extended family, old Texas liberal Democrats, had long ago abandoned the fraudulent Democratic Party. My family is a classic example of the tectonic shift of Americans from the Democrats to Republicans. And it had absolutely nothing to do with race.
    You can try all you want with snark and cynicism to portray it differently, but you know, I was there and so were millions of others. We know the trope is false and a lie.
    In summation, I would say you haven’t the slightest idea what you are talking about and, like most lame Leftwing Yankee fools, you rely on tired cliches to support whatever that is you construe as an argument.
    I recently described you as a worthy adversary. Well, I retract that and have to find you a jackass in the first and foremost definition of the word.

  135. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Well then, there you go. That was awesome Texpat, you’ve told some of that before, not all. Hear, hear!

  136. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Well then, there you go. That was awesome Texpat, you’ve told some of that before, not all. Hear, hear!

  137. Tedtam Avatar

    Texpat for President!

  138. Tedtam Avatar

    Texpat for President!

  139. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Wish I could claim the same from my childhood but growing up in Lubbock and on to Hereford, Tx., I honestly do not remember any of the white drinking fountains and such. Never was around any of it I suppose, after moving to Houston and graduating in 1976, we had two blacks in the entire class.

    Only memory I have is my Grandmother referring to the black woman down the street from her as – you know. But it was not a derogatory term, Grandma sent food and goods to her all the time.

  140. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Wish I could claim the same from my childhood but growing up in Lubbock and on to Hereford, Tx., I honestly do not remember any of the white drinking fountains and such. Never was around any of it I suppose, after moving to Houston and graduating in 1976, we had two blacks in the entire class.
    Only memory I have is my Grandmother referring to the black woman down the street from her as – you know. But it was not a derogatory term, Grandma sent food and goods to her all the time.

  141. Tedtam Avatar

    My class tonight was the institution of the Eucharist. Reading John 6 was quite a revelation for some of my chirrens. There was also a reconciliation service going on, and about half of my class went to confession. Some of them didn’t confess because the confessions were done face-to-face instead of behind a screen. They’ll have to go to a different church before Easter. Some were really nervous because they haven’t confessed in so long that they’ve forgotten how. I told them they weren’t the only ones, that the priest would walk them through it. I finally got to reconcile after class, and my priest didn’t even make me say the Act of Contrition.

    He did give me some unusual counseling. I didn’t expect the advice he gave me, but I understood where it came from.

  142. Tedtam Avatar

    My class tonight was the institution of the Eucharist. Reading John 6 was quite a revelation for some of my chirrens. There was also a reconciliation service going on, and about half of my class went to confession. Some of them didn’t confess because the confessions were done face-to-face instead of behind a screen. They’ll have to go to a different church before Easter. Some were really nervous because they haven’t confessed in so long that they’ve forgotten how. I told them they weren’t the only ones, that the priest would walk them through it. I finally got to reconcile after class, and my priest didn’t even make me say the Act of Contrition.
    He did give me some unusual counseling. I didn’t expect the advice he gave me, but I understood where it came from.

  143. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    52 Texpat,

    Guilty as charged. I am clueless sometimes, which is why I am always trying to expand my education. Did I detect something personal in your barb? I am not sure I could live with myself were that true.

    I will try to explain this once more. Texas went from 1874 until 1979 without having a single Republican Governor (for a long time Republicans were known as Carpetbaggers)

    If one aspired to run for public office…one ran as a Democrat during that period. I was not asleep during my Texas History classes and in that group you can see Conservatives, Liberals, and good old fashioned Populist-Progressives.

    There were a lot of racists in the Democrat Party during that period along with Irish & Italian Catholics, Trade Unionists, Rich Southerners, minorities, and just about anyone else that did not fit into the Country-Club WASPish mold of the Republican Party at the time. I’ll bet there were a lot of awkward moments at the pre-1948 Democratic Conventions. Do you suppose that was where the term “floor fight” was born?

    Party Platforms are like our beloved Texas weather; if you don’t like it, then just wait a little bit and it will change.

    Sometimes you just have to go home and drink a beer and have a good belly laugh at the comedy that plays out before us.

    Simple

  144. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    52 Texpat,
    Guilty as charged. I am clueless sometimes, which is why I am always trying to expand my education. Did I detect something personal in your barb? I am not sure I could live with myself were that true.
    I will try to explain this once more. Texas went from 1874 until 1979 without having a single Republican Governor (for a long time Republicans were known as Carpetbaggers)
    If one aspired to run for public office…one ran as a Democrat during that period. I was not asleep during my Texas History classes and in that group you can see Conservatives, Liberals, and good old fashioned Populist-Progressives.
    There were a lot of racists in the Democrat Party during that period along with Irish & Italian Catholics, Trade Unionists, Rich Southerners, minorities, and just about anyone else that did not fit into the Country-Club WASPish mold of the Republican Party at the time. I’ll bet there were a lot of awkward moments at the pre-1948 Democratic Conventions. Do you suppose that was where the term “floor fight” was born?
    Party Platforms are like our beloved Texas weather; if you don’t like it, then just wait a little bit and it will change.
    Sometimes you just have to go home and drink a beer and have a good belly laugh at the comedy that plays out before us.
    Simple

  145. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    75 GJT

    Sadly, I can remember the “Colored” water fountains and public restrooms. I can vividly remember asking my Pops what was “colored”?

    Simple

    p.s. I grew up in Houston in the 50’s and early 60’s

  146. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    75 GJT
    Sadly, I can remember the “Colored” water fountains and public restrooms. I can vividly remember asking my Pops what was “colored”?
    Simple
    p.s. I grew up in Houston in the 50’s and early 60’s

  147. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    I do not remember segregated drinking fountains in public spaces in West Texas. But I don’t remember being out in downtown very much anyway. Dropped off at the theater for the Saturday matinee, that’s about it.

    Midland public schools were segregated, but in my high school years, there were “cultural exchange programs” sort of like a talent show, where the black high school sent their talent to put on a show for us, and Midland High did the same.

  148. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    I do not remember segregated drinking fountains in public spaces in West Texas. But I don’t remember being out in downtown very much anyway. Dropped off at the theater for the Saturday matinee, that’s about it.
    Midland public schools were segregated, but in my high school years, there were “cultural exchange programs” sort of like a talent show, where the black high school sent their talent to put on a show for us, and Midland High did the same.

  149. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Ahh the sweet smell of revisionism on a Wednesday evening, it smells like ……………..

    Obviously I cannot refute your experience or the other millions like you. The desegregation of Houston demonstrates that the issue is not as simple as other make out. Now about the lame Leftwing Yankee fool part, the final vote on the civil rights act was:

    The original House version:
    Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7%–93%)
    Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0%–100%)
    Northern Democrats: 145-9 (94%–6%)
    Northern Republicans: 138-24 (85%–15%)
    The Senate version:
    Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5%–95%)
    Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0%–100%)
    Northern Democrats: 45-1 (98%–2%)
    Northern Republicans: 27-5 (84%–16%)

    Let me guess, it was those Yankee Democrats and Republicans jackasses who held back the brave southern Republican liberals from voting to provide every colored family with 40 acres and a mule.

    So now you claim to have have joined the ranks of the conservatives, I won’t even bother to post their role models. But that would be a over simplification, No I am afraid sir, the diagnosis is more severe: you are a Republican liberal.
    Wear the mantle proudly, the party needs more of you.
    And brother, you ain’t seen ostracism.

  150. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Ahh the sweet smell of revisionism on a Wednesday evening, it smells like ……………..
    Obviously I cannot refute your experience or the other millions like you. The desegregation of Houston demonstrates that the issue is not as simple as other make out. Now about the lame Leftwing Yankee fool part, the final vote on the civil rights act was:
    The original House version:
    Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7%–93%)
    Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0%–100%)
    Northern Democrats: 145-9 (94%–6%)
    Northern Republicans: 138-24 (85%–15%)
    The Senate version:
    Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5%–95%)
    Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0%–100%)
    Northern Democrats: 45-1 (98%–2%)
    Northern Republicans: 27-5 (84%–16%)
    Let me guess, it was those Yankee Democrats and Republicans jackasses who held back the brave southern Republican liberals from voting to provide every colored family with 40 acres and a mule.
    So now you claim to have have joined the ranks of the conservatives, I won’t even bother to post their role models. But that would be a over simplification, No I am afraid sir, the diagnosis is more severe: you are a Republican liberal.
    Wear the mantle proudly, the party needs more of you.
    And brother, you ain’t seen ostracism.

  151. Dooood Avatar

    #77 Simple

    Actually, the platforms of the Democratic and Republican Parties have changed very little over the last three decades so I’m not sure what it is you are talking about.

    You implied the racist inclinations of the dominant forces in the Democratic Party of the 30s, 40s, 50s and 60s were somehow understandable because the poor racist bastards had nowhere else to go given that the GOP was still regarded as a Northern interloper not to be trusted. If only the Yankee Republicans had been socially and culturally acceptable, the poor bigots could have jumped ship to the Republicans and purified the embarrassed Democrats.

    I don’t buy that crap.

    The Democrats have always and forever been about power, not morality. Their justifications and accomodations of racists well served their purposes back in the mid-twentieth century and it serves their uses today.

    The Democratic Party has, is now and forever will be dedicated to accumulating force and territory over whatever it can claim as its dominion and let the residents be damned. They don’t care now and never have about genuine people.

  152. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #77 Simple
    Actually, the platforms of the Democratic and Republican Parties have changed very little over the last three decades so I’m not sure what it is you are talking about.
    You implied the racist inclinations of the dominant forces in the Democratic Party of the 30s, 40s, 50s and 60s were somehow understandable because the poor racist bastards had nowhere else to go given that the GOP was still regarded as a Northern interloper not to be trusted. If only the Yankee Republicans had been socially and culturally acceptable, the poor bigots could have jumped ship to the Republicans and purified the embarrassed Democrats.
    I don’t buy that crap.
    The Democrats have always and forever been about power, not morality. Their justifications and accomodations of racists well served their purposes back in the mid-twentieth century and it serves their uses today.
    The Democratic Party has, is now and forever will be dedicated to accumulating force and territory over whatever it can claim as its dominion and let the residents be damned. They don’t care now and never have about genuine people.

  153. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    I was first called to jury duty in ’92. Those unfamiliar with the old Galveston courthouse it was a tall skyscraper and on the property there was an oval garden with a water fountain on one part of the oval. Being an engineer of the symmetrical sort, it was obvious it was unbalanced and if one looked closely on the other side of the oval it was possible to make out a set of mounting screws and remains of plumbing. While I was poking around, an elderly black person watched from a bench and detecting my interest volunteered that that location was where the colored fountain was. The point is, every time some folks sit there they remember what it was and what it is.
    People don’t forget those who help them and those who don’t.

    Now, I have allowed myself to fall into the orbit of generalization, folks can be changed. But let’s not break our arms patting ourselves on the back while pronouncing that back them some of our best friends was colored. It may be true, but it seems declasse to brag upon it.

  154. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    I was first called to jury duty in ’92. Those unfamiliar with the old Galveston courthouse it was a tall skyscraper and on the property there was an oval garden with a water fountain on one part of the oval. Being an engineer of the symmetrical sort, it was obvious it was unbalanced and if one looked closely on the other side of the oval it was possible to make out a set of mounting screws and remains of plumbing. While I was poking around, an elderly black person watched from a bench and detecting my interest volunteered that that location was where the colored fountain was. The point is, every time some folks sit there they remember what it was and what it is.
    People don’t forget those who help them and those who don’t.
    Now, I have allowed myself to fall into the orbit of generalization, folks can be changed. But let’s not break our arms patting ourselves on the back while pronouncing that back them some of our best friends was colored. It may be true, but it seems declasse to brag upon it.

  155. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #72 Texpat, well said SIR!
    Oh, and Happy Birthday, Hambones’ Granny! 😉

  156. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #72 Texpat, well said SIR!
    Oh, and Happy Birthday, Hambones’ Granny! 😉

  157. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    And brother, you ain’t seen ostracism.

    Somebody call a waaaaaahmbulance

  158. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    And brother, you ain’t seen ostracism.

    Somebody call a waaaaaahmbulance

  159. Dooood Avatar

    #80 shamaal

    Huh ?

    And your point in posting widely known and available 1964 voting records is precisely what ?

    This somehow vindicates your asininity in your mind ?

    No, Shamaal, you don’t know, you don’t know anything at this point.

    You have no idea what I know about being ostracized and I am not about teach you. You are not worth the trouble.

  160. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #80 shamaal
    Huh ?
    And your point in posting widely known and available 1964 voting records is precisely what ?
    This somehow vindicates your asininity in your mind ?
    No, Shamaal, you don’t know, you don’t know anything at this point.
    You have no idea what I know about being ostracized and I am not about teach you. You are not worth the trouble.

  161. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    #84 LOL 😉

    You know I wasn’t talking about myself.

  162. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    #84 LOL 😉
    You know I wasn’t talking about myself.

  163. phil Avatar
    phil

    None of you can top my Grandpa’s story.

  164. phil Avatar
    phil

    None of you can top my Grandpa’s story.

  165. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    You got me there texpat.

    That Michael Berry fellow on the radio, is continuously pointing out the tipping point when a person know he’s lost the argument. It always seems to include ad hominem attacks, just not my style.

    Keep pushing that “we’re the friends of the disenfranchised” part in spite of the historical record. The ossified one believes you, for some reason the disenfranchised don’t. Care to venture an opinion why? How did that Southern Strategy work for gaining the black vote?

  166. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    You got me there texpat.
    That Michael Berry fellow on the radio, is continuously pointing out the tipping point when a person know he’s lost the argument. It always seems to include ad hominem attacks, just not my style.
    Keep pushing that “we’re the friends of the disenfranchised” part in spite of the historical record. The ossified one believes you, for some reason the disenfranchised don’t. Care to venture an opinion why? How did that Southern Strategy work for gaining the black vote?

  167. Dooood Avatar

    #82 shamaal

    Now, I have allowed myself to fall into the orbit of generalization, folks can be changed. But let’s not break our arms patting ourselves on the back while pronouncing that back them some of our best friends was colored. It may be true, but it seems declasse to brag upon it.

    So this is what your fall back position is ? Accusing me of the “some of my best friends were” excuse ?

    Really, this is remarkably stupid on your part.

    That’s all you have ? Then you have made my point here.

    Your argument is bankrupt when that is all you have to rely upon. But it is entirely predictable.

  168. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #82 shamaal

    Now, I have allowed myself to fall into the orbit of generalization, folks can be changed. But let’s not break our arms patting ourselves on the back while pronouncing that back them some of our best friends was colored. It may be true, but it seems declasse to brag upon it.

    So this is what your fall back position is ? Accusing me of the “some of my best friends were” excuse ?
    Really, this is remarkably stupid on your part.
    That’s all you have ? Then you have made my point here.
    Your argument is bankrupt when that is all you have to rely upon. But it is entirely predictable.

  169. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Great, now you’re playing both parts, both victims.
    We both know the arguments and the fallacies and I will not be goaded into doing a disservice to the brave souls of both races, including your family by making generalizations.

    Gypsy needs her beauty sleep.

  170. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Great, now you’re playing both parts, both victims.
    We both know the arguments and the fallacies and I will not be goaded into doing a disservice to the brave souls of both races, including your family by making generalizations.
    Gypsy needs her beauty sleep.

  171. Dooood Avatar

    #88 shamaal

    I don’t know anything about Michael Berry or whatever else it is you are trying to use to muddle the debate.

    Keep pushing that “we’re the friends of the disenfranchised” part in spite of the historical record.

    Come on, shamaal, I know that’s not the last old bromide and banality you have to offer.

    Let’s hear them all. I know you can do it.

    Jump !

    Sit !

    Roll over !

    Shake hands !

    Good boy !

  172. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #88 shamaal
    I don’t know anything about Michael Berry or whatever else it is you are trying to use to muddle the debate.

    Keep pushing that “we’re the friends of the disenfranchised” part in spite of the historical record.

    Come on, shamaal, I know that’s not the last old bromide and banality you have to offer.
    Let’s hear them all. I know you can do it.
    Jump !
    Sit !
    Roll over !
    Shake hands !
    Good boy !

  173. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Play dead!

  174. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    In my world – there is a universe of difference ‘twixt anything even resembling a mislabeled ‘ad hominum attack’ and merely observing & reporting pathetic truth.

    Texpat your restraint is BOTH remarkable and admirable (and sadly wasted on a hopeless troll as well I believe)

  175. Katfish Avatar

    In my world – there is a universe of difference ‘twixt anything even resembling a mislabeled ‘ad hominum attack’ and merely observing & reporting pathetic truth.
    Texpat your restraint is BOTH remarkable and admirable (and sadly wasted on a hopeless troll as well I believe)

  176. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    A skyscraper in Galveston Tx?
    That’s just ridiculous.

  177. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    A skyscraper in Galveston Tx?
    That’s just ridiculous.

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