Tuesday Codependent Open Comments

I just recently finished the book Living Successfully with Screwed-Up People. I am about to begin my second read. It basically teaches mental health – how not to allow yourself to be sucked emotionally into other people’s behavior. Some people might define this as codependency. As I went through the last chapter, I had a flashback to an article that I saw that defined liberals as codependents (emphasis mine):

In the old days, when someone was a substance abuser, the entire onus for the abuse lay with that person. At a certain point, however, someone figured out that, in many relationships, the abuser’s partner was part of the dance of drug or alcohol dependency. A new term entered the pop culture vocabulary: “codependent.”
The theory behind codependency is that the codependent person, for his or her own psychological reasons, needs the abuser to continue abuse. That’s why you see the abuser’s partner buying booze for the alcoholic, or making excuses to the employer for the drug abuser’s bad behavior.

Okay, so far, so good. We’re talking about dependencies here, and those that aid and abet.

Practicalities aside, there are definitely relationships in which the codependent gets a sort of sick, martyred pleasure out of keeping the abuser tied to the abuse. For someone with low self-esteem, or a pathological desire to be needed, there’s really something satisfying in the bizarre dance of keeping an alcoholic simultaneously tied to his bottle and functioning. You are both better than he is and entirely necessary to his survival. You are the hero; he (or she) the perpetual damsel in distress. Until things get intolerable, your needs are satisfied catering to his illness.

Now, who can we think of that wants to keep others in a situation of need? Throw out the alcoholic, let’s think of other situations, shall we?

To maintain that illusion of superiority, however, liberals don’t the Hispanic gardener (sic), or the black bus driver, or the southern talking Mom in the trailer to prove that he (or she) is capable of precisely the same efforts and outcome. And in order for liberals to maintain that satisfying distance from that gardener or bus driver or mom, they need to create a dependency system whereby they keep those people in their place. The substance liberals offer these people isn’t alcohol, or meth, or cocaine — it’s government money.

Of course, as with the chemical substance abuser, being hooked on a free money is a stable situation for so long. The abuser gradually needs more and more… Then, at some indeterminate point, but a point that always seems to come as a big surprise, nothing helps anymore. The substance abuser becomes dysfunctional and the whole abuser/codependent dance grinds to a halt.

Uh, has anybody looked around lately? Unsustainable union pensions, yet the union workers continue to lobby for bigger contracts, and refuse to accept less? Look at the meltdown in Greece – the government is vainly trying to save the country, and the populace goes on a burning spree because they don’t like the austerity measures. If that isn’t a “dance grinding to a halt,” I don’t know what is.
From p. 80 of LSWSUP:

Abusers don’t see themselves as bad guys. They justify their abuse — I’m helping…I care…It’s my responsibility.

Gee, that sounds vaguely familiar. I remember being a rally and seeing a really sweet looking young woman holding a sign that said “Wouldn’t it be better to govern with love?” I’m sure she’d love to love us all to death, with all sorts of warm, fuzzy feelings as we sink deeper into dependency.

That’s what’s going to happen to America. Right now, we’re creating a two class system, led by Obama, our Codependent in Chief, who is aided by his other obsessive, arrogant and martyred Ivy League educated codependents. They see themselves as superior beings…. But the only way they can maintain this fantasy (and it is a fantasy) is to ensure that the average American is prevented from being hard working, productive and moral….Eventually, though, those same Americans that we hook on government money will become so dysfunctional that nothing can save them. And then it all grinds to a halt.
By the way, if you think I’m fantasizing about what happens when you hook a community on government money, just look at what the liberals did to the blacks starting with the 1960s’ Great Society. Rather than giving the blacks equal opportunities alongside whites, which would have enabled black Americans to engage in the same obsessive, hard-working, compulsive, driven, high achieving behavior that characterized whites, the Great Society gave them free money — and almost destroyed them. And throughout those years of codependent destruction, even as whites bemoaned the burdens of crimes and drugs and illiteracy that blacks placed on America, those same whites could view themselves as beneficent and superior beings, and that almost made it all worth while.
Perhaps it’s time for us to begin a Twelve Step Program for Democrats. We need to help them so that they’ll stop “helping” others.

We need to understand who we’re dealing with here. The people in charge of running these dependency plantations are what the book calls SUPs – Screwed Up People. Screwed Up People can be anyone – an irrational boss, an overly critical mother, that “friend” who always calls you to bail them out of jail or crash on your couch. They all try to control you, in their own ways. They don’t think like “normal people” would think:

“Fighting with screwed-up people plays with your head…You don’t want to lose something that is important to you — money, love, power, respect, security. Fear is holding you hostage and making the SUP seem bigger than life, more powerful than death, and more threatening than your ability to overcome. When winning becomes more important than playing by the rules, anything goes. Reasonableness, fairness, and accepted logic are left by the wayside. The difficult person’s objective is to win, to be on top, not become your friend or appease your ego.”

I think the above description probably applies to the power brokers in charge of maintaining dependency, and not just those in the Capitol. They use fear (taking away financial security, for example) to generate panic. In a panic, the people look for a leader who knows what he’s doing. Oh, he knows exactly what he’s doing – but it’s not necessarily what you think he’s doing.

“Emotionally healthy people find it very difficult to play games with people who refuse to abide by the rules. Knowing what to expect… plants you in the real world where screwed-up people rarely choose to play fair.”

Like the left-wing media researching the backgrounds of the Fox News personnel? (I think it was Media Matters, but it’s late – or early, depending upon your view of the clock — and I don’t have the link handy.) If you want to take on Fox News, take on their content. Personal lives should not be part of the game. But we’re dealing with SUPs here, and they don’t play fair. It’s a lesson a lot of legislators need to learn as well, while I’m thinking about it. SUPs don’t play fair – so don’t expect it, and don’t play by their screwed-up version of the rules.

“They fight to win, regardless of what it takes…Typically they refuse to hear what you have to say…
Arguments are not logical. SUPs change their argument in midstream, do a complete turnabout, if necessary to keep the upper hand….
…They justify their behavior by their “concern” for you and their desire for you to beneift from their superiority, their religious insights, and their political understanding….they may be unaware of their unfair maneuverings and shocked by what they consider your ingratitude and personal attack.

And then the author comes up with some words of wisdom, which should be heeded not just by the presidential candidates, but by the supposedly conservative Republicans already in office (p. 141):

It may help you to know you lose less when you aren’t afraid of losing. You lose who you are when you shy away from the issues, because what you avoid controls you. Power in mind games comes from facing the issues squarely, being straightforward, and not arguing.

Okay, that’s how you deal with the SUP. How do you deal with the codependents? The ones who are addicted to their need?

An SUP is like a whirlpool. His neediness pulls you in. The more you give, the more he wants, until you begin to drown.

Or the country begins to drown, but I digress…

The wrong kind of help is worse than no help at all and can be detrimental…to the recipient. This help…:
* may cripple the other person even further if you give too much
* may make you feel guilty that you can’t prevent disaster
* offers a quickie fix that complicates the problem and recovery for the long term
* lacks honesty or integrity
* shelters someone from the responsibility and consequences of her actions
* rushes in time and again to fix the same problem
* makes you feel frustrated, used, boxed in, and you may begin to wonder if anything you do makes any difference at all

Crazy how a book on interpersonal relationships can be applied to national and international affairs, isn’t it?
There’s a lot more good stuff in the book, but there’s not enough room nor time to cover it all. I am sure there’s more than enough fodder here for a full day’s conversation.

Comments

  1. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    In order to perpetuate the system, we have to develop a mindset that someone (or something) else is responsible for our own misfortune. That’s why we have 20 year death row customers waiting on the judge to evaluate the perps messed up childhood, or why we must forgive criminal behavior because it’s not the criminal’s fault. How many SUV’s have we read about that take off on their own and do destructive things without any input from or over riding the driver’s commands. Remember the Toyota sudden acceleration thing – every one was tested and not a single one failed the mechanical tests – pilot error all the way while juries had awarded millions in damages based on the concept of sudden acceleration.

    Obama just can’t help himself – he must spend trillions of borrowed dollars – it’s not his fault, he just can’t help it.
    Give me a break.

  2. El Gordo Avatar

    In order to perpetuate the system, we have to develop a mindset that someone (or something) else is responsible for our own misfortune. That’s why we have 20 year death row customers waiting on the judge to evaluate the perps messed up childhood, or why we must forgive criminal behavior because it’s not the criminal’s fault. How many SUV’s have we read about that take off on their own and do destructive things without any input from or over riding the driver’s commands. Remember the Toyota sudden acceleration thing – every one was tested and not a single one failed the mechanical tests – pilot error all the way while juries had awarded millions in damages based on the concept of sudden acceleration.
    Obama just can’t help himself – he must spend trillions of borrowed dollars – it’s not his fault, he just can’t help it.
    Give me a break.

  3. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Sometimes the hardest thing to do is to say no. Ask the person how they got into the mess they’re in. Their answer will tell you volumes. Are they accountable? Blaming? Beggining for help?

    I am a firm believer in “you made your bed, now lie in it.” I’ve seen many a good soul get sucked into these co-dependent situations that start out with the intent to help and eventually suck the very personality out of the person. Very sad to watch from the outside and almost impossible to see from the inside.

    Morning Gordo

  4. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Sometimes the hardest thing to do is to say no. Ask the person how they got into the mess they’re in. Their answer will tell you volumes. Are they accountable? Blaming? Beggining for help?
    I am a firm believer in “you made your bed, now lie in it.” I’ve seen many a good soul get sucked into these co-dependent situations that start out with the intent to help and eventually suck the very personality out of the person. Very sad to watch from the outside and almost impossible to see from the inside.
    Morning Gordo

  5. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    While admittedly out of touch lately, I find this bit interesting.

    I think late January and February have been the busiest time for Operation Fast & Furious. The media still doesnโ€™t give it proper coverage, especially this news: On February 4th, Mexico arrests a key figure in Fast & Furious. Not only is he a key person in Fast & Furious, but he was also a top lieutenant to El Chapo

    http://bigjournalism.com/mchastain/2012/02/13/media-silent-as-mexico-arrests-key-figure-in-fast-and-furious/#more-270340

  6. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    While admittedly out of touch lately, I find this bit interesting.

    I think late January and February have been the busiest time for Operation Fast & Furious. The media still doesnโ€™t give it proper coverage, especially this news: On February 4th, Mexico arrests a key figure in Fast & Furious. Not only is he a key person in Fast & Furious, but he was also a top lieutenant to El Chapo

    http://bigjournalism.com/mchastain/2012/02/13/media-silent-as-mexico-arrests-key-figure-in-fast-and-furious/#more-270340

  7. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    The news anchor on 26 just read ‘Anise Parker wanted the park cleaned up in time for festival season’. I’d love to find the source for that. It reeks of idealism is all well and good until it gets in the way of my profit/image.

  8. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    The news anchor on 26 just read ‘Anise Parker wanted the park cleaned up in time for festival season’. I’d love to find the source for that. It reeks of idealism is all well and good until it gets in the way of my profit/image.

  9. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    “I just recently finished the book Living Successfully with Screwed-Up People.”

    I wonder if that had any influence on a recent yes vote that is now re-thought.

  10. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    “I just recently finished the book Living Successfully with Screwed-Up People.”
    I wonder if that had any influence on a recent yes vote that is now re-thought.

  11. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Rethinking is always a good policy, IMHO.

  12. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Rethinking is always a good policy, IMHO.

  13. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Every sad story is got wimmins in it.

  14. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Every sad story is got wimmins in it.

  15. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Good Valentine’s Day morning Hamsters. It was a misty moisty 49 at 6 and now working on warming and becoming merely cloudy later. Today is what we make of it, not how it presents itself. ๐Ÿ™‚

    Outstanding post TT. Liberalism/socialism is indeed a mental disorder.

  16. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Good Valentine’s Day morning Hamsters. It was a misty moisty 49 at 6 and now working on warming and becoming merely cloudy later. Today is what we make of it, not how it presents itself. ๐Ÿ™‚
    Outstanding post TT. Liberalism/socialism is indeed a mental disorder.

  17. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    #4

    I didn’t even know the Occupiers were still there, you’re right though. Funny to watch liberal stuff get in the way of liberal stuff.

  18. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #4
    I didn’t even know the Occupiers were still there, you’re right though. Funny to watch liberal stuff get in the way of liberal stuff.

  19. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I like this guy’s response to the Itchy & Scratchy protesters.

  20. Hamous Avatar

    I like this guy’s response to the Itchy & Scratchy protesters.

  21. Tedtam Avatar

    Sister sent me an email last night. It seems that my brother-in-law has reached the end of the road in his treatment. Sister thought she was ready for this, but now that the end is near, she’s having a hard time.

    And my office assistant has had a falling-out with her aunt, who is her landlord. She’s been given until the end of the month to move out. Money, time, and the baby are issues. She’s done a lot of growing up since she started working for me, but she’s always struggled just to get by. She’s never given up trying to improve her lot in life, but it’s just been so difficult, with all of her health issues. Needless to say, she’s going through a hard time herself.

    Please keep them all in your prayers. They need them.

  22. Tedtam Avatar

    Sister sent me an email last night. It seems that my brother-in-law has reached the end of the road in his treatment. Sister thought she was ready for this, but now that the end is near, she’s having a hard time.
    And my office assistant has had a falling-out with her aunt, who is her landlord. She’s been given until the end of the month to move out. Money, time, and the baby are issues. She’s done a lot of growing up since she started working for me, but she’s always struggled just to get by. She’s never given up trying to improve her lot in life, but it’s just been so difficult, with all of her health issues. Needless to say, she’s going through a hard time herself.
    Please keep them all in your prayers. They need them.

  23. Hamous Avatar

    As far as screwed up people go, these little chirrenzes definitely do not fall in that category. Watching these little angels with their tiny fingers play full sized acoustic guitars is incredible. Music and foreign language absolutely must be taught in elementary and Jr High at a minimum.

  24. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    As far as screwed up people go, these little chirrenzes definitely do not fall in that category. Watching these little angels with their tiny fingers play full sized acoustic guitars is incredible. Music and foreign language absolutely must be taught in elementary and Jr High at a minimum.

  25. Tedtam Avatar

    #13 Bone

    That video never ceases to bring a smile to my lips. I wonder how old they are now? And are they still as cute as the dickens?

  26. Tedtam Avatar

    #13 Bone
    That video never ceases to bring a smile to my lips. I wonder how old they are now? And are they still as cute as the dickens?

  27. Hamous Avatar

    #14 TT: So cute it makes me want to bite them, hug them, tickle them and simply have my soul be warmed by their smiles.

  28. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #14 TT: So cute it makes me want to bite them, hug them, tickle them and simply have my soul be warmed by their smiles.

  29. Hamous Avatar

    Further to #13, teaching language and music STARTING IN KINDERGARTEN makes for better engineers, not to mention musicians and communicators.

  30. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Further to #13, teaching language and music STARTING IN KINDERGARTEN makes for better engineers, not to mention musicians and communicators.

  31. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    LSWSUP sounds like a book I should read, but I doubt it has any new (to me) insights.
    Is it just another book about co-dependency and/or Tough Love?

  32. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    LSWSUP sounds like a book I should read, but I doubt it has any new (to me) insights.
    Is it just another book about co-dependency and/or Tough Love?

  33. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #7 – You got that right.

  34. El Gordo Avatar

    #7 – You got that right.

  35. Tedtam Avatar

    I have one other book about codepency that is also good, but this one treats the whole situation differently, somehow. It just made a lot of sense and was easy to understand.

    And it’s not “tough love” per se, it’s more like “you can’t fix everybody, but you can fix yourself and learn how to deal with the SUPs in your life.”

    And between my family, my work, and my friends, I have a few of those.

  36. Tedtam Avatar

    I have one other book about codepency that is also good, but this one treats the whole situation differently, somehow. It just made a lot of sense and was easy to understand.
    And it’s not “tough love” per se, it’s more like “you can’t fix everybody, but you can fix yourself and learn how to deal with the SUPs in your life.”
    And between my family, my work, and my friends, I have a few of those.

  37. Hamous Avatar

    #19 TT: Could your book be described as a way to defend yourself against the SUPs and the emotional blackmail they frequently use?

  38. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #19 TT: Could your book be described as a way to defend yourself against the SUPs and the emotional blackmail they frequently use?

  39. Dooood Avatar

    I like Instapundit’s comment quoted by the Boston Herald regarding Obama’s new proposal for a “grope-fee” to be added to all airline tickets.

    Glenn Reynolds, a University of Tennessee law professor and TSA critic who blogs at Instapundit.com, slammed the fee as good money after bad โ€” the TSA has been widely criticized for incompetence and abusive searches.

    โ€œIโ€™m not against user fees,โ€ Reynolds said. โ€œBut this is not a user fee. This is a fee for being used. I donโ€™t think the TSA does any good at all. Every dollar that goes to them is a waste. More dollars is more waste. I think the TSA should be abolished.โ€

    Reynolds, a gun rights advocate, said that with a reported $32 billion total package of proposed airport fees and cuts, โ€œfor that kind of money, they could give every frequent flier a gun, which would do more to stop hijackings than the TSA clown show.โ€

  40. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    I like Instapundit’s comment quoted by the Boston Herald regarding Obama’s new proposal for a “grope-fee” to be added to all airline tickets.

    Glenn Reynolds, a University of Tennessee law professor and TSA critic who blogs at Instapundit.com, slammed the fee as good money after bad โ€” the TSA has been widely criticized for incompetence and abusive searches.
    โ€œIโ€™m not against user fees,โ€ Reynolds said. โ€œBut this is not a user fee. This is a fee for being used. I donโ€™t think the TSA does any good at all. Every dollar that goes to them is a waste. More dollars is more waste. I think the TSA should be abolished.โ€
    Reynolds, a gun rights advocate, said that with a reported $32 billion total package of proposed airport fees and cuts, โ€œfor that kind of money, they could give every frequent flier a gun, which would do more to stop hijackings than the TSA clown show.โ€

  41. Katfish Avatar

    And between my family, my work, and my friends, I have a few of those.

    Don’t forget us!

  42. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    And between my family, my work, and my friends, I have a few of those.

    Don’t forget us!

  43. Tedtam Avatar

    #20 Bone

    Yep

    #22 WB

    Never!

  44. Tedtam Avatar

    #20 Bone
    Yep
    #22 WB
    Never!

  45. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    13 Boney

    Great link!!!

  46. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    13 Boney
    Great link!!!

  47. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    While I’m on Valentine’s, here’s the neatest one of the day

    http://www.breitbart.tv/olympic-swimmer-proposes-to-girlfriend-on-medal-stand/

  48. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    While I’m on Valentine’s, here’s the neatest one of the day
    http://www.breitbart.tv/olympic-swimmer-proposes-to-girlfriend-on-medal-stand/

  49. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    I was on this flight.

    Associated Press: Florida
    Feb 13, 8:43 PM EST

    Flight delayed after strange odor in airplane

    ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — Officials say a Southwest Airlines flight was delayed at Orlando International Airport because of a strange odor in the galley.

    The airline reports that plane left the airport for Panama City Monday evening but returned 20 minutes later. The 133 passengers and five crew members were taken off the plane, and Orlando firefighters inspected the Boeing 737-700.

    The Orlando Sentinel ( http://thesent.nl/xrv62I ) reports that nothing abnormal was found, but the airline decided to take the jet out of service.

    Southwest was arranging the put the passengers on another plane.

    No injuries were reported.

    Think it could have been me? I was standing in line for the bathroom when the commotion started.

    27 OletimerLin says:
    February 10, 2012 at 9:12 am

    I bought some of that new Axe deodorant thatโ€™s advertised to drive the women crazy. The directions said โ€œTo use remove cap and push up bottomโ€

    It made me walk funny, but when I passed gas the women swooned.

  50. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    I was on this flight.

    Associated Press: Florida
    Feb 13, 8:43 PM EST
    Flight delayed after strange odor in airplane
    ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — Officials say a Southwest Airlines flight was delayed at Orlando International Airport because of a strange odor in the galley.
    The airline reports that plane left the airport for Panama City Monday evening but returned 20 minutes later. The 133 passengers and five crew members were taken off the plane, and Orlando firefighters inspected the Boeing 737-700.
    The Orlando Sentinel ( http://thesent.nl/xrv62I ) reports that nothing abnormal was found, but the airline decided to take the jet out of service.
    Southwest was arranging the put the passengers on another plane.
    No injuries were reported.

    Think it could have been me? I was standing in line for the bathroom when the commotion started.

    27 OletimerLin says:
    February 10, 2012 at 9:12 am
    I bought some of that new Axe deodorant thatโ€™s advertised to drive the women crazy. The directions said โ€œTo use remove cap and push up bottomโ€
    It made me walk funny, but when I passed gas the women swooned.

  51. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    And how’s that one government cradle to grave theory working out in reality?
    Oh, wait. It would work if the right people were running it and they raised taxes and put more money in it

    Maybe Obama can offer a similar version to prove it works when done properly. Oh wait, he did that yesterday.

    Rating Action:
    Moody’s adjusts ratings of 9 European sovereigns to capture downside risks
    Global Credit Research – 13 Feb 2012

    London, 13 February 2012 — As anticipated in November 2011, Moody’s Investors Service has today adjusted the sovereign debt ratings of selected EU countries in order to reflect their susceptibility to the growing financial and macroeconomic risks emanating from the euro area crisis and how these risks exacerbate the affected countries’ own specific challenges.

    Moody’s actions can be summarized as follows:

    – Austria: outlook on Aaa rating changed to negative

    – France: outlook on Aaa rating changed to negative

    – Italy: downgraded to A3 from A2, negative outlook

    – Malta: downgraded to A3 from A2, negative outlook

    – Portugal: downgraded to Ba3 from Ba2, negative outlook

    – Slovakia: downgraded to A2 from A1, negative outlook

    – Slovenia: downgraded to A2 from A1, negative outlook

    – Spain: downgraded to A3 from A1, negative outlook

    – United Kingdom: outlook on Aaa rating changed to negative

    Please see the individual country specific statements below for more detailed information relating to the rating rationale and the sensitivity analysis for each affected sovereign issuer.

    Long article showing basis for each countries ratings:

    http://www.moodys.com/research/Moodys-adjusts-ratings-of-9-European-sovereigns-to-capture-downside–PR_237716

  52. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    And how’s that one government cradle to grave theory working out in reality?
    Oh, wait. It would work if the right people were running it and they raised taxes and put more money in it
    Maybe Obama can offer a similar version to prove it works when done properly. Oh wait, he did that yesterday.

    Rating Action:
    Moody’s adjusts ratings of 9 European sovereigns to capture downside risks
    Global Credit Research – 13 Feb 2012
    London, 13 February 2012 — As anticipated in November 2011, Moody’s Investors Service has today adjusted the sovereign debt ratings of selected EU countries in order to reflect their susceptibility to the growing financial and macroeconomic risks emanating from the euro area crisis and how these risks exacerbate the affected countries’ own specific challenges.
    Moody’s actions can be summarized as follows:
    – Austria: outlook on Aaa rating changed to negative
    – France: outlook on Aaa rating changed to negative
    – Italy: downgraded to A3 from A2, negative outlook
    – Malta: downgraded to A3 from A2, negative outlook
    – Portugal: downgraded to Ba3 from Ba2, negative outlook
    – Slovakia: downgraded to A2 from A1, negative outlook
    – Slovenia: downgraded to A2 from A1, negative outlook
    – Spain: downgraded to A3 from A1, negative outlook
    – United Kingdom: outlook on Aaa rating changed to negative
    Please see the individual country specific statements below for more detailed information relating to the rating rationale and the sensitivity analysis for each affected sovereign issuer.

    Long article showing basis for each countries ratings:
    http://www.moodys.com/research/Moodys-adjusts-ratings-of-9-European-sovereigns-to-capture-downside–PR_237716

  53. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Surprise, surprise, surprise! / Not.

    Docs to be quizzed over pills in hotel suite
    It came as it emerged her doctors will be quizzed to see if she illegally obtained a collection of prescription pills that may have killed her.

    And it emerged last night that pill bottles found in her room were from the same pharmacy that supplied Michael Jackson. Cops were reported to have said they were from the Mickey Fine chemists. It was where Jacko got Demerol and other drugs.

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4127833/Whitney-Houstons-doctors-in-drug-quiz.html

  54. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Surprise, surprise, surprise! / Not.

    Docs to be quizzed over pills in hotel suite
    It came as it emerged her doctors will be quizzed to see if she illegally obtained a collection of prescription pills that may have killed her.
    And it emerged last night that pill bottles found in her room were from the same pharmacy that supplied Michael Jackson. Cops were reported to have said they were from the Mickey Fine chemists. It was where Jacko got Demerol and other drugs.

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4127833/Whitney-Houstons-doctors-in-drug-quiz.html

  55. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    I am surprised no one has posted this little number from Drudge.

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/drunk-driving/naked-texas-cowgirl-arrest-758492

  56. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    I am surprised no one has posted this little number from Drudge.
    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/drunk-driving/naked-texas-cowgirl-arrest-758492

  57. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    A really cool picture of bioluminesence.

    http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/grace_notes/small_fires_on_the_deep.php

    Oh, and an essay.

  58. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    A really cool picture of bioluminesence.
    http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/grace_notes/small_fires_on_the_deep.php
    Oh, and an essay.

  59. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    One poll has Santorum up by 15 in Romney’s home state. That can’t be good (for Romney).

  60. Hamous Avatar

    One poll has Santorum up by 15 in Romney’s home state. That can’t be good (for Romney).

  61. Hamous Avatar

    #32 Hamous: Izzit possible that the country is starting to coalesce around a single candidate, just like the Establishment said they would? Except of course it is not the candidate they had in mind. . . . .
    /heh

  62. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #32 Hamous: Izzit possible that the country is starting to coalesce around a single candidate, just like the Establishment said they would? Except of course it is not the candidate they had in mind. . . . .
    /heh

  63. Hamous Avatar

    How much more ammo do we need to have valid, state issued photo ID in order to vote?

    HEADLINE:Pew study: 1 in 8 voter records flawed
    WASHINGTON โ€“ More than 24 million voter-registration records in the United Statesโ€” about one in eight โ€” are inaccurate, out-of-date or duplicates. Nearly 2.8 million people are registered in two or more states, and perhaps 1.8 million registered voters are dead.

    And we wonder why those dead Sons of B@#ches always seem to vote D. That kind of explains why motor voter and no ID of any kind are such popular items for Ds.

  64. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    How much more ammo do we need to have valid, state issued photo ID in order to vote?

    HEADLINE:Pew study: 1 in 8 voter records flawed
    WASHINGTON โ€“ More than 24 million voter-registration records in the United Statesโ€” about one in eight โ€” are inaccurate, out-of-date or duplicates. Nearly 2.8 million people are registered in two or more states, and perhaps 1.8 million registered voters are dead.

    And we wonder why those dead Sons of B@#ches always seem to vote D. That kind of explains why motor voter and no ID of any kind are such popular items for Ds.

  65. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Today House Republicans Are Set To Approve Barack Obama’s Stimulus Plan

    It is sad that we have gotten here, but House Republicans, including conservative stalwarts like Jim Jordan of Ohio, are set to pass Barack Obamaโ€™s latest stimulus plan. Except they are calling it John Boehnerโ€™s โ€œHighway Bill.โ€ Consider, however that Barack Obamaโ€™s budget, unveiled yesterday, calls for much of the same infrastructure spending the House Republicans want.

    There is a reason the Heritage Action for America, Club for Growth, Competitive Enterprise Institute, and other conservative organizations are opposed to this spending spree. It is not conservative. It should not be Republican. It is Barack Obama style spending.

    http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/02/14/today-house-republicans-are-set-to-approve-barack-obamas-latest-stimulus-plan/

  66. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Today House Republicans Are Set To Approve Barack Obama’s Stimulus Plan
    It is sad that we have gotten here, but House Republicans, including conservative stalwarts like Jim Jordan of Ohio, are set to pass Barack Obamaโ€™s latest stimulus plan. Except they are calling it John Boehnerโ€™s โ€œHighway Bill.โ€ Consider, however that Barack Obamaโ€™s budget, unveiled yesterday, calls for much of the same infrastructure spending the House Republicans want.
    There is a reason the Heritage Action for America, Club for Growth, Competitive Enterprise Institute, and other conservative organizations are opposed to this spending spree. It is not conservative. It should not be Republican. It is Barack Obama style spending.

    http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/02/14/today-house-republicans-are-set-to-approve-barack-obamas-latest-stimulus-plan/

  67. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    35 Shannon says:
    February 14, 2012 at 11:11 am
    Today House Republicans Are Set To Approve Barack Obamaโ€™s Stimulus Plan

    These aren’t the Establishment we’re looking for. Move along.

  68. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    35 Shannon says:
    February 14, 2012 at 11:11 am
    Today House Republicans Are Set To Approve Barack Obamaโ€™s Stimulus Plan

    These aren’t the Establishment we’re looking for. Move along.

  69. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    I haven’t had a chance to read the thread, but wanted to post this joke before I forget it again.

    A man died and found himself at the Pearly Gates. St Peter informed him that he could choose whether to spend eternity in Heaven or in Hell, and could even spend a day in each place to help him make up his mind. The man decided to try Hell for a day first. He got in the elevator and went down, down, down, down, down. The door slid open and the man was stunned to realize he had stepped out onto a golf course in a tropical clime. He spotted lots of his old friends, and spent the rest of the day playing golf, then partying and catching up with his pals. When the time came, he got back on the elevator and went up, up, up. He stepped out onto a bank of fluffy clouds and saw a few scattered people, no one he recognized, just sitting around on the clouds. He wandered around for hours but couldn’t find anything to do, so he got back on the elevator and returned to the mezzanine floor. St Peter was surprised to see him come back early and asked the man which place he had decided on. The man explained that he’d had such a good time with his old friends, he picked Hell. He was put back on the elevator and sent down, down, down. But this time, when the door opened, there was no golf course and he saw his friends were wearing rags and picking up trash. Appalled, the man sought out the Devil and asked “what happened? It was so great yesterday, we played golf all day and partied all night. Now all I see is rags and trash.”

    The Devil replied, “We were campaigning yesterday. But today you have voted.”

  70. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    I haven’t had a chance to read the thread, but wanted to post this joke before I forget it again.
    A man died and found himself at the Pearly Gates. St Peter informed him that he could choose whether to spend eternity in Heaven or in Hell, and could even spend a day in each place to help him make up his mind. The man decided to try Hell for a day first. He got in the elevator and went down, down, down, down, down. The door slid open and the man was stunned to realize he had stepped out onto a golf course in a tropical clime. He spotted lots of his old friends, and spent the rest of the day playing golf, then partying and catching up with his pals. When the time came, he got back on the elevator and went up, up, up. He stepped out onto a bank of fluffy clouds and saw a few scattered people, no one he recognized, just sitting around on the clouds. He wandered around for hours but couldn’t find anything to do, so he got back on the elevator and returned to the mezzanine floor. St Peter was surprised to see him come back early and asked the man which place he had decided on. The man explained that he’d had such a good time with his old friends, he picked Hell. He was put back on the elevator and sent down, down, down. But this time, when the door opened, there was no golf course and he saw his friends were wearing rags and picking up trash. Appalled, the man sought out the Devil and asked “what happened? It was so great yesterday, we played golf all day and partied all night. Now all I see is rags and trash.”
    The Devil replied, “We were campaigning yesterday. But today you have voted.”

  71. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Seems to me the “Highway” bill could be defanged if state governors would just withhold sending federal gasoline taxes and use them for state highway projects. Eliminate the ogre middleman in DC and hang onto the full amount collected. ๐Ÿ™‚

    Kinda like resolving the Gordian knot problem like Alexander did.

  72. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Seems to me the “Highway” bill could be defanged if state governors would just withhold sending federal gasoline taxes and use them for state highway projects. Eliminate the ogre middleman in DC and hang onto the full amount collected. ๐Ÿ™‚
    Kinda like resolving the Gordian knot problem like Alexander did.

  73. Katfish Avatar

    I’d really like to see a Constitutional Amendment where all Federal revenue that currently comes through direct taxation would be replaced with taxes on the states (apportioned by population).

  74. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I’d really like to see a Constitutional Amendment where all Federal revenue that currently comes through direct taxation would be replaced with taxes on the states (apportioned by population).

  75. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #40 – While yer at it can I be RICHER & Taller too?

    ๐Ÿ™‚

    Blogmonkey interjects:

  76. Katfish Avatar

    #40 – While yer at it can I be RICHER & Taller too?
    ๐Ÿ™‚
    Blogmonkey interjects:

  77. Katfish Avatar

    Why is it that we can just up and invade Libya without a casus belli, while we have to ask Assad if we can land troops in Syria pretty please.

  78. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Why is it that we can just up and invade Libya without a casus belli, while we have to ask Assad if we can land troops in Syria pretty please.

  79. Tedtam Avatar

    #44 WB

    Workplace accident causes premature detonation for Iranian bomber in Bangkok.

    In only they had OSHA, this would’ve never happened.

    Of course, I don’t know what’s worse to have – bombers or OSHA.

  80. Tedtam Avatar

    #44 WB

    Workplace accident causes premature detonation for Iranian bomber in Bangkok.

    In only they had OSHA, this would’ve never happened.
    Of course, I don’t know what’s worse to have – bombers or OSHA.

  81. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Clever Prisoner

    A prisoner waits on death row. The night before his execution, he is offered a possible reprieve. Before him are two large urns. One urn contains fifty black balls, the other fifty white balls. Tomorrow, the executioner will, while blindfolded, draw a ball randomly from one of the two urns. If it’s black, it’s curtains for the prisoner. If it’s white his sentence will be commuted to life.

    The prisoner wants very much to live, and is pleased that with the current state of affairs his chances of living are fifty-fifty. He is then presented with an option. He may change the contents of the urns. He can swap white balls for black, move balls from urn to urn, etc. There is a stipulation that when he is done, there must be fifty white and fifty black balls total between the two urns. He can’t eat some of the black balls or paint them or anything.

    It occurs to the prisoner he might be able to help his situation by moving the balls so that there were twenty-five of each color in each urn, then making sure the white balls were on top. But the executioner might have guessed this, and may shake up the urns. Worse yet, he might deliberately reach to the bottom of the urn he chooses.

    Is there another way the prisoner can help himself?

  82. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Clever Prisoner
    A prisoner waits on death row. The night before his execution, he is offered a possible reprieve. Before him are two large urns. One urn contains fifty black balls, the other fifty white balls. Tomorrow, the executioner will, while blindfolded, draw a ball randomly from one of the two urns. If it’s black, it’s curtains for the prisoner. If it’s white his sentence will be commuted to life.
    The prisoner wants very much to live, and is pleased that with the current state of affairs his chances of living are fifty-fifty. He is then presented with an option. He may change the contents of the urns. He can swap white balls for black, move balls from urn to urn, etc. There is a stipulation that when he is done, there must be fifty white and fifty black balls total between the two urns. He can’t eat some of the black balls or paint them or anything.
    It occurs to the prisoner he might be able to help his situation by moving the balls so that there were twenty-five of each color in each urn, then making sure the white balls were on top. But the executioner might have guessed this, and may shake up the urns. Worse yet, he might deliberately reach to the bottom of the urn he chooses.
    Is there another way the prisoner can help himself?

  83. Tedtam Avatar

    Frankly, if the prisoner had enough balls, he’d kick the executioner’s wiss when he came into his cell, take his weapon, fight his way out of the prison, steal a horse/car/other form of transportation, and escape to a friendly country, where he’d live out his natural life giving Chuck Norris lessons and impregnating women with his stare.

  84. Tedtam Avatar

    Frankly, if the prisoner had enough balls, he’d kick the executioner’s wiss when he came into his cell, take his weapon, fight his way out of the prison, steal a horse/car/other form of transportation, and escape to a friendly country, where he’d live out his natural life giving Chuck Norris lessons and impregnating women with his stare.

  85. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    ๐Ÿ™‚ close, but not quite right.

  86. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    ๐Ÿ™‚ close, but not quite right.

  87. Tedtam Avatar

    Oliver Stone’s son converts to Islam:

    “The conversion to Islam is not abandoning Christianity or Judaism, which I was born with. It means I have accepted Mohammad and other prophets,” he said in a brief telephone call from the central Iranian city of Isfahan, where he underwent the ceremony.

    What an idiot. Of course, he’s turning his back on Christianity. Muslims don’t believe in the deity of Jesus. And we all know how the Islamic religions feels about Jews. It just goes to show how poor of an education he got in his religion as a child. Someone who knows his faith – either Christian or Jew, he comes from a mixed religion family – would not make such an asinine statement.

    The 27-year-old filmmaker did not say why he converted.

    Possibly at gunpoint or from sheer idiocy. Maybe he felt a need to “fit in”.

  88. Tedtam Avatar

    Oliver Stone’s son converts to Islam:

    “The conversion to Islam is not abandoning Christianity or Judaism, which I was born with. It means I have accepted Mohammad and other prophets,” he said in a brief telephone call from the central Iranian city of Isfahan, where he underwent the ceremony.

    What an idiot. Of course, he’s turning his back on Christianity. Muslims don’t believe in the deity of Jesus. And we all know how the Islamic religions feels about Jews. It just goes to show how poor of an education he got in his religion as a child. Someone who knows his faith – either Christian or Jew, he comes from a mixed religion family – would not make such an asinine statement.

    The 27-year-old filmmaker did not say why he converted.

    Possibly at gunpoint or from sheer idiocy. Maybe he felt a need to “fit in”.

  89. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Solving the puzzle in 20 minutes.

    Well posting the answer, I couldn’t come up with it either.

  90. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Solving the puzzle in 20 minutes.
    Well posting the answer, I couldn’t come up with it either.

  91. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #52 – YIKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  92. Katfish Avatar

    #52 – YIKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  93. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Appealing to (beseeching) the moderator, isn’t this a hockey and hairball free blog?

  94. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Appealing to (beseeching) the moderator, isn’t this a hockey and hairball free blog?

  95. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Solution:
    Any combination of even amounts of balls in the jars the odds are 50/100 (multiply by 100 to get %) for drawing a white ball or 50%

    Place one white in one urn, and all the others in the other urn. This gives a 74/99 probability of picking white. ( Multiply by 100 to get %) or 74%.

    explanation:

    probability of picking white ball from which only one white ball is there = 1
    probability of picking white ball from which 49 white and 50 black ball is there = 49/99
    probability of picking white ball = (1 + 49/99)/2

  96. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Solution:
    Any combination of even amounts of balls in the jars the odds are 50/100 (multiply by 100 to get %) for drawing a white ball or 50%
    Place one white in one urn, and all the others in the other urn. This gives a 74/99 probability of picking white. ( Multiply by 100 to get %) or 74%.
    explanation:
    probability of picking white ball from which only one white ball is there = 1
    probability of picking white ball from which 49 white and 50 black ball is there = 49/99
    probability of picking white ball = (1 + 49/99)/2

  97. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Possibly at gunpoint or from sheer idiocy. Maybe he felt a need to โ€œfit inโ€.

    SLPKS – Spoiled Little Progressive Kid Syndrome. Pick a religion that finds my lifestyle the most abhorrent and embrace it to show how much I empathize with them and show complete disdain for the very system that allowed me to become a Spoiled Little Progressive Kid in the first place. Think Patty Hearst.

  98. Hamous Avatar

    Possibly at gunpoint or from sheer idiocy. Maybe he felt a need to โ€œfit inโ€.

    SLPKS – Spoiled Little Progressive Kid Syndrome. Pick a religion that finds my lifestyle the most abhorrent and embrace it to show how much I empathize with them and show complete disdain for the very system that allowed me to become a Spoiled Little Progressive Kid in the first place. Think Patty Hearst.

  99. Tedtam Avatar

    I still like my answer better, though yours is more accurate.

  100. Tedtam Avatar

    I still like my answer better, though yours is more accurate.

  101. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #57: We have a winner. You win your choice of seats on hammie’s couch.

    Clever Prisoner

    The prisoner moves all the balls save for one white ball into one urn. There is a fifty-fifty chance that the guard will select this urn and save his life, in the other urn there is a 49:99 chance of being saved. This moves his net chance of survival up to a hair under 75%.

  102. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #57: We have a winner. You win your choice of seats on hammie’s couch.

    Clever Prisoner
    The prisoner moves all the balls save for one white ball into one urn. There is a fifty-fifty chance that the guard will select this urn and save his life, in the other urn there is a 49:99 chance of being saved. This moves his net chance of survival up to a hair under 75%.

  103. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #57
    You still got what it takes, Oletimer!
    Huzzah!
    (Could Judge Judy cheer like that?)
    ๐Ÿ™‚

  104. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #57
    You still got what it takes, Oletimer!
    Huzzah!
    (Could Judge Judy cheer like that?)
    ๐Ÿ™‚

  105. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Say, it just hit me — mebbe the Oletimer looked up the answer on the innanet?

  106. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Say, it just hit me — mebbe the Oletimer looked up the answer on the innanet?

  107. Hamous Avatar

    Very well done OTL; a fantastic example of thinking outside the urn. There was no rule that there had to be 50 balls in each urn when the executioner drew.

  108. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Very well done OTL; a fantastic example of thinking outside the urn. There was no rule that there had to be 50 balls in each urn when the executioner drew.

  109. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Seems Obama went nun shopping to find a willing dupe to provide cover for his power grab.

  110. Hamous Avatar

    #64 Homer: the following from your linkie NAILS IT!

    โ€œIt does not matter who explains the terms of the policy purchased by the religiously affiliated or observant employer. What matters is what services the policy covers. โ€ฆ It is an insult to the intelligence of Catholics, Protestants, Eastern Orthodox Christians, Jews, Muslims, and other people of faith and conscience to imagine that they will accept as assault on their religious liberty if only it is covered up by a cheap accounting trick.โ€

    Clear and concise, no way to misunderstand what the real issues are. This is the way the Rs need to frame more issues with O.

  111. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #64 Homer: the following from your linkie NAILS IT!

    โ€œIt does not matter who explains the terms of the policy purchased by the religiously affiliated or observant employer. What matters is what services the policy covers. โ€ฆ It is an insult to the intelligence of Catholics, Protestants, Eastern Orthodox Christians, Jews, Muslims, and other people of faith and conscience to imagine that they will accept as assault on their religious liberty if only it is covered up by a cheap accounting trick.โ€

    Clear and concise, no way to misunderstand what the real issues are. This is the way the Rs need to frame more issues with O.

  112. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    A lawyer would but one white ball in each urn and the rest on the floor, between the urns.

  113. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    A lawyer would but one white ball in each urn and the rest on the floor, between the urns.

  114. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    Headshaker would still get a black one.

  115. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    Headshaker would still get a black one.

  116. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #64
    Link Comment:

    Wow! Sister Keehan is now head of the Catholic Church in America? I didn’t get that memo.

  117. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #64
    Link Comment:

    Wow! Sister Keehan is now head of the Catholic Church in America? I didn’t get that memo.

  118. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #66 goats
    Say, are you a lawyer yourself? I don’t think anyone else spotted that loophole.

  119. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #66 goats
    Say, are you a lawyer yourself? I don’t think anyone else spotted that loophole.

  120. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    You gotta go see today’s Google Valentines doodle animation.

    Pretty cute till right at the end when the 2 gay couples are featured. This should rain down some flak on Google.

    http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-valentines-day-google-doodle-progay-marriage-20120214,0,3964644.story

  121. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    You gotta go see today’s Google Valentines doodle animation.
    Pretty cute till right at the end when the 2 gay couples are featured. This should rain down some flak on Google.
    http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-valentines-day-google-doodle-progay-marriage-20120214,0,3964644.story

  122. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #67 Hammy
    Candidate for Separated-At-Birth, paired up with this famous dude

  123. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #67 Hammy
    Candidate for Separated-At-Birth, paired up with this famous dude

  124. Hamous Avatar

    #66 GTO: you hit the key phrase:

    There is a stipulation that when he is done, there must be fifty white and fifty black balls total between the two urns.

    Your plan would not work if the word “between” was changed to “in”.

  125. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #66 GTO: you hit the key phrase:

    There is a stipulation that when he is done, there must be fifty white and fifty black balls total between the two urns.

    Your plan would not work if the word “between” was changed to “in”.

  126. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    72 mharper42 says:
    February 14, 2012 at 3:22 pm
    #67 Hammy
    Candidate for Separated-At-Birth, paired up with this famous dudeโ€ฆ

    That’s not a dude.

    That’s Angela Lansbury

  127. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    72 mharper42 says:
    February 14, 2012 at 3:22 pm
    #67 Hammy
    Candidate for Separated-At-Birth, paired up with this famous dudeโ€ฆ

    That’s not a dude.
    That’s Angela Lansbury

  128. Tedtam Avatar

    NOT SAFE FOR WORK

    Kids are not allowed to have a childhood anymore.

    I despise all those entities that remove the innocence from childhood.

  129. Tedtam Avatar

    NOT SAFE FOR WORK
    Kids are not allowed to have a childhood anymore.
    I despise all those entities that remove the innocence from childhood.

  130. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    There is a stipulation that when he is done, there must be fifty white and fifty black balls total between the two urns.

    Nice try. For that ploy to work he would have to put all fifty white and black balls between the urns and leave the urns empty.

  131. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    There is a stipulation that when he is done, there must be fifty white and fifty black balls total between the two urns.

    Nice try. For that ploy to work he would have to put all fifty white and black balls between the urns and leave the urns empty.

  132. Tedtam Avatar

    It looks like there are several ways for the prisoner to urn his freedom.

    /putting self in the corner

  133. Tedtam Avatar

    It looks like there are several ways for the prisoner to urn his freedom.
    /putting self in the corner

  134. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Waiting for Ol Timer to say this:

    What’s a Greek Urn?

    About $5 an hour.
    In corner with TT

  135. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Waiting for Ol Timer to say this:
    What’s a Greek Urn?
    About $5 an hour.
    In corner with TT

  136. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    #76, All the balls are between the outside edges of the two urns, so they are between the two urns.

  137. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    #76, All the balls are between the outside edges of the two urns, so they are between the two urns.

  138. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    I’ve actually had conversations like this with engineers who want the contractors to fix their design flaws for free. (In this case, yes I am just being a smart aleck.) Anyone else ever have to choke when spec book is crammed down your throat?

  139. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    I’ve actually had conversations like this with engineers who want the contractors to fix their design flaws for free. (In this case, yes I am just being a smart aleck.) Anyone else ever have to choke when spec book is crammed down your throat?

  140. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    rutro – he said “engineer”

    stand by for ShaNaNa’s head to ‘splode in 5………………4……………………….3………………2…………

  141. Katfish Avatar

    rutro – he said “engineer”
    stand by for ShaNaNa’s head to ‘splode in 5………………4……………………….3………………2…………

  142. Katfish Avatar

    You people should be ashamed of yourselves. I applaud your urnest efforts at punnage, but you really need to work on it.

    I’m off to pick up a few henways for later. Wish me luck!

  143. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    You people should be ashamed of yourselves. I applaud your urnest efforts at punnage, but you really need to work on it.
    I’m off to pick up a few henways for later. Wish me luck!

  144. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Shiner 103 is out. A tasty pale ale:

    Mmmm. Beer.

  145. Hamous Avatar

    Shiner 103 is out. A tasty pale ale:

    Mmmm. Beer.

  146. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Food Police?
    State Inspectors Searching Childrenโ€™s Lunch Boxes: โ€œThis Isnโ€™t China, Is It?โ€

    The mother, who doesnโ€™t wish to be identified at this time, says she made her daughter a lunch that contained a turkey and cheese sandwich, a banana, apple juice and potato chips. A state inspector assessing the pre-K program at the school said the girl also needed a vegetable, so the inspector ordered a full school lunch tray for her. While the four-year-old was still allowed to eat her home lunch, the girl was forced to take a helping of chicken nuggets, milk, a fruit and a vegetable to supplement her sack lunch.
    The mother says the girl was so intimidated by the inspection process that she was too scared to eat all of her homemade lunch. The girl ate only the chicken nuggets provided to her by the school, so she still didnโ€™t eat a vegetable.

    So processed encephalitis chicken is better than REAL turkey?!?!
    Beam Me Up Scotty!! There is NO intelligent life here!

  147. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Food Police?
    State Inspectors Searching Childrenโ€™s Lunch Boxes: โ€œThis Isnโ€™t China, Is It?โ€

    The mother, who doesnโ€™t wish to be identified at this time, says she made her daughter a lunch that contained a turkey and cheese sandwich, a banana, apple juice and potato chips. A state inspector assessing the pre-K program at the school said the girl also needed a vegetable, so the inspector ordered a full school lunch tray for her. While the four-year-old was still allowed to eat her home lunch, the girl was forced to take a helping of chicken nuggets, milk, a fruit and a vegetable to supplement her sack lunch.
    The mother says the girl was so intimidated by the inspection process that she was too scared to eat all of her homemade lunch. The girl ate only the chicken nuggets provided to her by the school, so she still didnโ€™t eat a vegetable.

    So processed encephalitis chicken is better than REAL turkey?!?!
    Beam Me Up Scotty!! There is NO intelligent life here!

  148. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Engineers….The Knack ๐Ÿ˜‰

  149. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Engineers….The Knack ๐Ÿ˜‰

  150. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #84 – ROFL

  151. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    BANGKOK (AP) โ€” An Iranian man carrying grenades blew off his own legs and wounded four civilians Tuesday after an earlier blast shook his house in Bangkok, Thai authorities said. The explosions came a day after an Israeli diplomatic car was bombed in India โ€“ an attack Israel blamed on Iran.

    I feel so terrible…for the four civilians that is.

    Iranian Terrorist in Thailand Blows Off His Own Legs in Attack (Graphic Images)

  152. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    BANGKOK (AP) โ€” An Iranian man carrying grenades blew off his own legs and wounded four civilians Tuesday after an earlier blast shook his house in Bangkok, Thai authorities said. The explosions came a day after an Israeli diplomatic car was bombed in India โ€“ an attack Israel blamed on Iran.

    I feel so terrible…for the four civilians that is.
    Iranian Terrorist in Thailand Blows Off His Own Legs in Attack (Graphic Images)

  153. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Speaking of Food Police, I heard on Matt Patrick show this afternoon (AM 950) that the Houston city council will be voting on whether to require any person or organization that is out feeding the poor and homeless to register with the city (no charge, they say) and take some training on food safety & sanitation. If it is enacted, that is sure gonna rile up some small groups and individuals who like to pass out food & water.

  154. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Speaking of Food Police, I heard on Matt Patrick show this afternoon (AM 950) that the Houston city council will be voting on whether to require any person or organization that is out feeding the poor and homeless to register with the city (no charge, they say) and take some training on food safety & sanitation. If it is enacted, that is sure gonna rile up some small groups and individuals who like to pass out food & water.

  155. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    I know this was mentioned before, but the grits for breakfast story is on Huffpo’s News of the weird.
    I can’t imagine this happening in Friendswood when I take the Shamaalinas out.

  156. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    I know this was mentioned before, but the grits for breakfast story is on Huffpo’s News of the weird.
    I can’t imagine this happening in Friendswood when I take the Shamaalinas out.

  157. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    All right, we’ll run a couple:
    Three engineers were in the bathroom standing at the urinals. The first engineer finished and walked over to the sink to wash his hands. He then proceeded to dry his hands very carefully. He used paper towel after paper towel and ensured that every single spot of water on his hands was dried. Turning to the other two engineers, he said, “At NASA, we are trained to be extremely thorough.”

    The second engineer finished his task at the urinal and he proceeded to wash his hands. He used a single paper towel and made sure that he dried his hands using every available portion of the paper towel. He turned and said, “At Lockheed-Martin, not only are we trained to be extremely thorough, but we are also trained to be extremely efficient.”

    The third engineer finished and walked straight for the door, shouting over his shoulder, “At Jacobs Inc. we don’t p** on our hands.”

  158. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    All right, we’ll run a couple:
    Three engineers were in the bathroom standing at the urinals. The first engineer finished and walked over to the sink to wash his hands. He then proceeded to dry his hands very carefully. He used paper towel after paper towel and ensured that every single spot of water on his hands was dried. Turning to the other two engineers, he said, “At NASA, we are trained to be extremely thorough.”
    The second engineer finished his task at the urinal and he proceeded to wash his hands. He used a single paper towel and made sure that he dried his hands using every available portion of the paper towel. He turned and said, “At Lockheed-Martin, not only are we trained to be extremely thorough, but we are also trained to be extremely efficient.”
    The third engineer finished and walked straight for the door, shouting over his shoulder, “At Jacobs Inc. we don’t p** on our hands.”

  159. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    “Road Trip” This weekend and gas will be $3.35-$3.50, CRAP! But not to worry, Osama is ON IT; Obama Cites Rising Gas Prices โ€“ Up 83 Percent Under His Tenure โ€“ Among Reasons to Extend Payroll Tax Cut. Shazaamm I feel beter already.

  160. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    “Road Trip” This weekend and gas will be $3.35-$3.50, CRAP! But not to worry, Osama is ON IT; Obama Cites Rising Gas Prices โ€“ Up 83 Percent Under His Tenure โ€“ Among Reasons to Extend Payroll Tax Cut. Shazaamm I feel beter already.

  161. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Another one:
    Five surgeons were taking a coffee break. The first surgeon said, “Accountants are the best to operate on because when you open them up, everything inside is numbered.”
    The second surgeon said, “Nah, librarians are the best. Everything inside them is in alphabetical order.”
    The third surgeon responded, “Try electricians, man! Everything inside them is color coded.”
    Then the fourth doctor interceded, “I prefer lawyers. They’re heartless, spineless, gutless and their heads and their butts are interchangeable.”
    To which the fifth surgeon, who had been quietly listening to the conversation, replied, “I like engineers. They always understand when you have a few parts left over at the end.”

  162. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Another one:
    Five surgeons were taking a coffee break. The first surgeon said, “Accountants are the best to operate on because when you open them up, everything inside is numbered.”
    The second surgeon said, “Nah, librarians are the best. Everything inside them is in alphabetical order.”
    The third surgeon responded, “Try electricians, man! Everything inside them is color coded.”
    Then the fourth doctor interceded, “I prefer lawyers. They’re heartless, spineless, gutless and their heads and their butts are interchangeable.”
    To which the fifth surgeon, who had been quietly listening to the conversation, replied, “I like engineers. They always understand when you have a few parts left over at the end.”

  163. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    And a lst one before we get down to business.
    An architect, an artist, and an engineer were discussing whether it was better to spend time with the wife or a mistress.

    The architect said he enjoyed time with his wife, building a solid foundation for an enduring relationship.
    The artist said he enjoyed time with his mistress, because of the passion and mystery he found there. The engineer said, “I like both.”
    “Both?” asked the architect and artist in unison.
    The engineer replied, “Yeah. If you have a wife and a mistress, they will each assume that you are spending time with the other woman, so you can go to the office and get some work done.”

  164. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    And a lst one before we get down to business.
    An architect, an artist, and an engineer were discussing whether it was better to spend time with the wife or a mistress.
    The architect said he enjoyed time with his wife, building a solid foundation for an enduring relationship.
    The artist said he enjoyed time with his mistress, because of the passion and mystery he found there. The engineer said, “I like both.”
    “Both?” asked the architect and artist in unison.
    The engineer replied, “Yeah. If you have a wife and a mistress, they will each assume that you are spending time with the other woman, so you can go to the office and get some work done.”

  165. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Speaking of folks in Canada with a lot of time on their hands. This fellow has been excavating his basement using Radio Controlled loaders and truck since 1997. The forum runs 53 pages and contains tons of really neat videos.

    It doesn’t whether he is an engineer or not, but I bet he’s single.

  166. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Speaking of folks in Canada with a lot of time on their hands. This fellow has been excavating his basement using Radio Controlled loaders and truck since 1997. The forum runs 53 pages and contains tons of really neat videos.
    It doesn’t whether he is an engineer or not, but I bet he’s single.

  167. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    What could possibly go wrong?

    When his Volvo’s heater broke, Pascal Prokop took drastic action to avoid the bitter Swiss winter and installed a wood burning stove in the front of his car.

    Redneck Swiss; who knew?
    If this fellow lived in Texas, there’d be BarBQ involved.

  168. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    What could possibly go wrong?

    When his Volvo’s heater broke, Pascal Prokop took drastic action to avoid the bitter Swiss winter and installed a wood burning stove in the front of his car.

    Redneck Swiss; who knew?
    If this fellow lived in Texas, there’d be BarBQ involved.

  169. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    All right enough merriment, this story’s not important enough to make Drudge.

    Congressional negotiators reached a tentative deal Tuesday to extend the payroll tax cut and unemployment benefits while avoiding a fee cut for Medicare doctors, according to Republican legislators and aides.

    It looks like Republicans will borrow another $100B for more Keynesian spending. Of course, I’ll believe it when I see it, considering they’re Republicans.

    But it could be true though, they borrowed $20B in December by UNANIMOUS vote. Amazing, not one dissenter, maybe there’s hope for more bipartisanship with President Obama.

    There was a time when fiscal conservative folks would be upset by this……. Well, I hear there’s a primary coming up in Texas.

  170. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    All right enough merriment, this story’s not important enough to make Drudge.

    Congressional negotiators reached a tentative deal Tuesday to extend the payroll tax cut and unemployment benefits while avoiding a fee cut for Medicare doctors, according to Republican legislators and aides.

    It looks like Republicans will borrow another $100B for more Keynesian spending. Of course, I’ll believe it when I see it, considering they’re Republicans.
    But it could be true though, they borrowed $20B in December by UNANIMOUS vote. Amazing, not one dissenter, maybe there’s hope for more bipartisanship with President Obama.
    There was a time when fiscal conservative folks would be upset by this……. Well, I hear there’s a primary coming up in Texas.

  171. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    I could wait for someone to post a #99, or…

  172. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    I could wait for someone to post a #99, or…

  173. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    I could jump in and try for the big 1-0-0 myself.

  174. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    I could jump in and try for the big 1-0-0 myself.

  175. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    This doesn’t get much better than this:

    On a Sunday morning talk show, Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum was asked about a passage in his 2005 book, “It Takes a Family.”
    The passage reads:
    “The radical feminists succeeded in undermining the traditional family and convincing women that professional accomplishments are the key to happiness.”

    So how does Mr. Santorum defend his comments? He blames his wife?

    “My wife is a working, working woman. We had children and she decided to, to take a career, take off time in her career and raise children. And I can tell you this section was written in large part in cooperation with her as a mother, who as a lawyer and neonatal intensive nurse, someone with a great amount of professional experience, who felt very much like society and those radical feminists that, that I was referring to, were not affirming her choice,” said Santorum on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

    I guess it’s not in his litany that women can find happiness in any combination. I guess those women in Saudi Arabia must be really satisfied.

  176. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    This doesn’t get much better than this:

    On a Sunday morning talk show, Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum was asked about a passage in his 2005 book, “It Takes a Family.”
    The passage reads:
    “The radical feminists succeeded in undermining the traditional family and convincing women that professional accomplishments are the key to happiness.”

    So how does Mr. Santorum defend his comments? He blames his wife?

    “My wife is a working, working woman. We had children and she decided to, to take a career, take off time in her career and raise children. And I can tell you this section was written in large part in cooperation with her as a mother, who as a lawyer and neonatal intensive nurse, someone with a great amount of professional experience, who felt very much like society and those radical feminists that, that I was referring to, were not affirming her choice,” said Santorum on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

    I guess it’s not in his litany that women can find happiness in any combination. I guess those women in Saudi Arabia must be really satisfied.

  177. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    mharper42, Well played. ๐Ÿ˜€

  178. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    mharper42, Well played. ๐Ÿ˜€

  179. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Thanks, Daverino!

  180. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Thanks, Daverino!

  181. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Times, they are a changing;

    CABLE NEWS RACE
    NITE OF JAN 13, 2012

    FOXNEWS O’REILLY 3,292,000
    FOXNEWS HANNITY 2,117,000
    FOXNEWS BRET BAIER 1,908,000
    CMDY DAILY SHOW 1,811,000
    FOXNEWS SHEP SMITH 1,788,000
    FOXNEWS THE FIVE 1,744,000
    FOXNEWS GRETA 1,632,000
    CMDY COLBERT 1,509,000
    MSNBC SCHULTZ 944,000
    CNN PIERS MORGAN 901,000
    MSNBC MADDOW 901,000
    MSNBC HARDBALL 861,000
    CNN COOPER 825,000

  182. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Times, they are a changing;

    CABLE NEWS RACE
    NITE OF JAN 13, 2012
    FOXNEWS O’REILLY 3,292,000
    FOXNEWS HANNITY 2,117,000
    FOXNEWS BRET BAIER 1,908,000
    CMDY DAILY SHOW 1,811,000
    FOXNEWS SHEP SMITH 1,788,000
    FOXNEWS THE FIVE 1,744,000
    FOXNEWS GRETA 1,632,000
    CMDY COLBERT 1,509,000
    MSNBC SCHULTZ 944,000
    CNN PIERS MORGAN 901,000
    MSNBC MADDOW 901,000
    MSNBC HARDBALL 861,000
    CNN COOPER 825,000

  183. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Thanks, Daverino!

    Or “Bloody Davy Roberts” AARRGH ๐Ÿ˜€

  184. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Thanks, Daverino!

    Or “Bloody Davy Roberts” AARRGH ๐Ÿ˜€

  185. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Of course, heโ€™s turning his back on Christianity. Muslims donโ€™t believe in the deity of Jesus

    Yup. Can’t get more simpler reasoning than that, TedTam

  186. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Of course, heโ€™s turning his back on Christianity. Muslims donโ€™t believe in the deity of Jesus

    Yup. Can’t get more simpler reasoning than that, TedTam

  187. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Dang, it’s……The Birds!

  188. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Dang, it’s……The Birds!

  189. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    [#104]
    Great minds think alike!

    I was just getting ready to post this with a comment, when did Comedy Central #4 and #8 become part of the Cable News Race?
    While there’s always been doubt about O’Reilly providing news, but it’s pretty clear in my mind that Stewart and Colbert are not news. The word COMEDY in Comedy Central tipped me off. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  190. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    [#104]
    Great minds think alike!
    I was just getting ready to post this with a comment, when did Comedy Central #4 and #8 become part of the Cable News Race?
    While there’s always been doubt about O’Reilly providing news, but it’s pretty clear in my mind that Stewart and Colbert are not news. The word COMEDY in Comedy Central tipped me off. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  191. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Muslims donโ€™t believe in the deity of Jesus

    Nor do Jews, if I recall correctly. Maybe he reverted to the religion of his father, but still wanted to eat cheese burgers.

  192. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Muslims donโ€™t believe in the deity of Jesus

    Nor do Jews, if I recall correctly. Maybe he reverted to the religion of his father, but still wanted to eat cheese burgers.

  193. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    “Best Bear Gun”, OK I draw the line @ 44 Mag minimun, 454 Casull better, BUTT, hey I could be wrong.

    Protection in the woods – Best Bear Gun
    On Bud’s Gun Shop Forums the question came up: What is the smallest caliber you trust to protect yourself?
    A 22 short should do it….think not…read on……..
    The best answer:
    My personal favorite defense gun has always been a Beretta Jetfire in 22 short. Over all the years I’ve been hiking I never leave without it in my pocket. Of course we all know too the first rule when hiking in the wilderness is to use the “Buddy System.” For those of you who may be unfamiliar with this it means you NEVER hike alone. You bring a friend or companion, even an in-law, that way if something happens there is someone to go get help. I remember one time hiking with my brother-in-law in northern Alberta. Out of nowhere came this huge brown bear and man was she mad. We must have been near one of her cubs. Anyway, if I had not had my little Jetfire I’d sure not be here today. Just one shot to my brother-in-law’s knee cap and I was able to escape by just walking at a brisk pace.

    ๐Ÿ˜€

  194. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    “Best Bear Gun”, OK I draw the line @ 44 Mag minimun, 454 Casull better, BUTT, hey I could be wrong.

    Protection in the woods – Best Bear Gun
    On Bud’s Gun Shop Forums the question came up: What is the smallest caliber you trust to protect yourself?
    A 22 short should do it….think not…read on……..
    The best answer:
    My personal favorite defense gun has always been a Beretta Jetfire in 22 short. Over all the years I’ve been hiking I never leave without it in my pocket. Of course we all know too the first rule when hiking in the wilderness is to use the “Buddy System.” For those of you who may be unfamiliar with this it means you NEVER hike alone. You bring a friend or companion, even an in-law, that way if something happens there is someone to go get help. I remember one time hiking with my brother-in-law in northern Alberta. Out of nowhere came this huge brown bear and man was she mad. We must have been near one of her cubs. Anyway, if I had not had my little Jetfire I’d sure not be here today. Just one shot to my brother-in-law’s knee cap and I was able to escape by just walking at a brisk pace.

    ๐Ÿ˜€

  195. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    I guess when you’re a Federal judge in Texas and the Newts of this world and his ilk demonize, you can respond

    From Judge Biery’s judgement

    What This Case Has Not Been About
    The right to pray. Any American can pray, silently or verbally, seven days a week, twenty four hours a day, in private as Jesus taught’ or in large public events as Mohammed instructed.

    But it gets better

    A PERSONAL STATEMENT
    During the course of this litigation, many have played a part:
    To the United States Marshal Service and local police who have provided heightened security: Thank you.
    To those Christians who have venomously and vomitously cursed the Court family and threatened bodily harm and assassination: In His name, I forgive you.
    To those who have prayed for my death: Your prayers will someday be answered, as inevitably trumps probability.
    To those in the executive and legislative branches of government who have demagogued this case for their own political goals: You should be ashamed of yourselves.
    To the lawyers who have advocated professionally and respectfully for their clients’ respective positions: Bless you.

  196. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    I guess when you’re a Federal judge in Texas and the Newts of this world and his ilk demonize, you can respond
    From Judge Biery’s judgement

    What This Case Has Not Been About
    The right to pray. Any American can pray, silently or verbally, seven days a week, twenty four hours a day, in private as Jesus taught’ or in large public events as Mohammed instructed.

    But it gets better

    A PERSONAL STATEMENT
    During the course of this litigation, many have played a part:
    To the United States Marshal Service and local police who have provided heightened security: Thank you.
    To those Christians who have venomously and vomitously cursed the Court family and threatened bodily harm and assassination: In His name, I forgive you.
    To those who have prayed for my death: Your prayers will someday be answered, as inevitably trumps probability.
    To those in the executive and legislative branches of government who have demagogued this case for their own political goals: You should be ashamed of yourselves.
    To the lawyers who have advocated professionally and respectfully for their clients’ respective positions: Bless you.

  197. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    #110 ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Don’t gotta be the fastest, just faster than the guy next to you.

  198. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    #110 ๐Ÿ˜‰
    Don’t gotta be the fastest, just faster than the guy next to you.

  199. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Huh? What kilt the blog tonight?

  200. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Huh? What kilt the blog tonight?

  201. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Someone took a shammy to it.

  202. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Someone took a shammy to it.

  203. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    West Texas.

    Wyman Meinzer graduated from Texas Tech. When he graduated, he moved
    back to his ranch near Benjamin , Tx so he could begin his photography.

    He lived in a dugout for quite a few months, to be in the middle of the
    roadrunners, coyotes, and snakes.

  204. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    West Texas.

    Wyman Meinzer graduated from Texas Tech. When he graduated, he moved
    back to his ranch near Benjamin , Tx so he could begin his photography.
    He lived in a dugout for quite a few months, to be in the middle of the
    roadrunners, coyotes, and snakes.

  205. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    purty (albeit desolate) country – Benjamin was my Biological Mother’s hometown……..

  206. Katfish Avatar

    purty (albeit desolate) country – Benjamin was my Biological Mother’s hometown……..

  207. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Guys, guys…I got a great idea. let’s elect someone from Chicago to the US presidency. What do you all say?

    Chicago Called Most Corrupt City In Nation

  208. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Guys, guys…I got a great idea. let’s elect someone from Chicago to the US presidency. What do you all say?
    Chicago Called Most Corrupt City In Nation

  209. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Oh, dang it. Mharper got it. Good job, mharper. ๐Ÿ™‚

  210. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Oh, dang it. Mharper got it. Good job, mharper. ๐Ÿ™‚

  211. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Baby Girl got her hard cast yesterday. I aksed Mrs. Darren if they took x-rays of her bones and she said the doctor sad they look “amazingly well”. Thats a relief.

  212. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Baby Girl got her hard cast yesterday. I aksed Mrs. Darren if they took x-rays of her bones and she said the doctor sad they look “amazingly well”. Thats a relief.

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