Wednesday Physics Is Cool Open Comments

Physics is cool. If you could truly understand physics, you could probably understand most Earthly things.

Any field of study where the most elusive fundamental unit is called a boson has to be cool.

The Higgs boson is a hypothetical particle whose accompanying field is believed to be accountable for giving all other fundamental particles their mass. It is also the only elementary particle theorized in the Standard Model — the closest thing modern physics has to a “theory of everything” — that has not yet been actually observed through experiments.

They also can’t seem to find the particle that transmits gravitation – the graviton.

Sure, we are quite positive of gravity’s existence — drop something and it crashes to the floor, easy enough — but if gravity is a force, according to the Standard Model, it must also have its own accompanying particle.

Gravity is a myth. The Earth sucks.
Read the link for more evidence physicists are just messing with us.


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  1. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Here’s a brief summary of your basic physics package. It’s what powers the universe, you know.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapon_design

  2. El Gordo Avatar

    Here’s a brief summary of your basic physics package. It’s what powers the universe, you know.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapon_design

  3. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    As we all know, Obama Motors in on top of the physics of automobile engineering and will stop at nothing to produce the most efficient products known to mankind. Here’s a brief presentation made to the DOE in anticipation of a “green” loan which is certain to be approved given the modern application of the latest thinking in physics to automotive engineering
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac7G7xOG2Ag&feature=related

  4. El Gordo Avatar

    As we all know, Obama Motors in on top of the physics of automobile engineering and will stop at nothing to produce the most efficient products known to mankind. Here’s a brief presentation made to the DOE in anticipation of a “green” loan which is certain to be approved given the modern application of the latest thinking in physics to automotive engineering
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac7G7xOG2Ag&feature=related

  5. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    #2
    EG

    Those were the day, eh? Imagine our government doing anything for less than a billion.

  6. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #2
    EG
    Those were the day, eh? Imagine our government doing anything for less than a billion.

  7. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Just got a forwarded email from Liberal Aunt reminding Texans to vote for the over 65 property tax excemption in the May election. I guess some tax cuts are ok.

  8. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Just got a forwarded email from Liberal Aunt reminding Texans to vote for the over 65 property tax excemption in the May election. I guess some tax cuts are ok.

  9. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    4 GJT
    That could be that old email that has been floating around for years. It refers to an election that took place years ago and passed overwhelmingly.

  10. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    4 GJT
    That could be that old email that has been floating around for years. It refers to an election that took place years ago and passed overwhelmingly.

  11. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    #6

    Oh, guess you’re right. I didn’t even pay attention to the issue or date. Was still funny tho.

  12. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #6
    Oh, guess you’re right. I didn’t even pay attention to the issue or date. Was still funny tho.

  13. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    It’s one of those emails that will never die.

  14. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    It’s one of those emails that will never die.

  15. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    You can call it The Establishment, or you can call it The Invisible Primary, but it exists nevertheless.

    Yesterday, I referred to the GOP apparat — and some of the response was to have a little fun with the idea, or to express weariness with debates about the “GOP establishment.” Such responses are understandable. After all, the Republican Party is not a conspiracy. Moreover, post-1968 reforms took presidential nominations out of the hands of party bosses and into the hands of caucus and primary voters, right? At the very least, it placed the process more in the hands of candidates and their campaigns, yes?

    Some political scientists think it is more complex than that. For example, in The Party Decides, Marty Cohen, David Karol, Hans Noel, and John Zaller argue the rise of the invisible primary still gives the party control of presidential nominations:

    Going to Amazon now—-

  16. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    You can call it The Establishment, or you can call it The Invisible Primary, but it exists nevertheless.

    Yesterday, I referred to the GOP apparat — and some of the response was to have a little fun with the idea, or to express weariness with debates about the “GOP establishment.” Such responses are understandable. After all, the Republican Party is not a conspiracy. Moreover, post-1968 reforms took presidential nominations out of the hands of party bosses and into the hands of caucus and primary voters, right? At the very least, it placed the process more in the hands of candidates and their campaigns, yes?
    Some political scientists think it is more complex than that. For example, in The Party Decides, Marty Cohen, David Karol, Hans Noel, and John Zaller argue the rise of the invisible primary still gives the party control of presidential nominations:

    Going to Amazon now—-

  17. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Here ’tis. On Kindle its only $5.70

    This review is from: The Party Decides: Presidential Nominations Before and After Reform (Chicago Studies in American Politics) (Paperback)
    Cohen, Karol, Noel, and Zaller bridge the gap between academics’ deep knowledge of political behavior and practitioners’ sense of how elite politics actually work to produce perhaps the finest single book on presidential politics in the past 25 years. The Party Decides deserves a spot beside classics such as Richard Neustadt’s Presidential Power–and if your shelves only have room for one volume, junk Neustadt. In accessible but rigorous language, the authors lay out a persuasive theory of how partisan elites shape the selection of American presidential candidates, exercising their considerable power in a way that’s both transparent–you can watch it happen in Iowa, in New Hampshire, and the pages of Politico!–but almost invisible because it’s so transparent.

  18. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Here ’tis. On Kindle its only $5.70

    This review is from: The Party Decides: Presidential Nominations Before and After Reform (Chicago Studies in American Politics) (Paperback)
    Cohen, Karol, Noel, and Zaller bridge the gap between academics’ deep knowledge of political behavior and practitioners’ sense of how elite politics actually work to produce perhaps the finest single book on presidential politics in the past 25 years. The Party Decides deserves a spot beside classics such as Richard Neustadt’s Presidential Power–and if your shelves only have room for one volume, junk Neustadt. In accessible but rigorous language, the authors lay out a persuasive theory of how partisan elites shape the selection of American presidential candidates, exercising their considerable power in a way that’s both transparent–you can watch it happen in Iowa, in New Hampshire, and the pages of Politico!–but almost invisible because it’s so transparent.

  19. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #5 – Oh GEEZ – that is beyond insane……………………ya think these “NASA Rejects” have the SNAP to factor in oceans of tow-truck-fuel-used when they calculate the completely MINISCULE MPG improvements garnered by leaving out a friggin spare tire & wheel?????????????

  20. Katfish Avatar

    #5 – Oh GEEZ – that is beyond insane……………………ya think these “NASA Rejects” have the SNAP to factor in oceans of tow-truck-fuel-used when they calculate the completely MINISCULE MPG improvements garnered by leaving out a friggin spare tire & wheel?????????????

  21. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    MsTedTam…………….I seem to have lost your email address somewhere along the way – if you can please send to my

    texaskatfish
    at
    a
    o
    l

    THANKS in advance!

  22. Katfish Avatar

    MsTedTam…………….I seem to have lost your email address somewhere along the way – if you can please send to my
    texaskatfish
    at
    a
    o
    l
    THANKS in advance!

  23. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Katfish
    Bramanti figured the savings at 4 gallons a year.

  24. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Katfish
    Bramanti figured the savings at 4 gallons a year.

  25. Katfish Avatar

    Occupy Providence (yes, they are still around in a sad attempt to claim they are still relevant) makes the argument that throwing condoms at Catholic high school girls and shouting down a priest at a pro-life rally is free speech.

    When your message is insufficiently persuasive, go for wild, over the top behavior to force people to hear your statements.

  26. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Occupy Providence (yes, they are still around in a sad attempt to claim they are still relevant) makes the argument that throwing condoms at Catholic high school girls and shouting down a priest at a pro-life rally is free speech.
    When your message is insufficiently persuasive, go for wild, over the top behavior to force people to hear your statements.

  27. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Good morning Hamsters. Cool and misty 65 developed into heavy fog on the moors out here. Sunrise thinned it significantly and reduced it to mist again as the overcast returned.

    So the Florida primary is history, Romney won, and he only got 50 delegates so his total is far short of those required for the nomination. On to the next states. Meanwhile the Texas primary is in limbo. Texas is not amused. Don’t mess with Texas.

  28. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Good morning Hamsters. Cool and misty 65 developed into heavy fog on the moors out here. Sunrise thinned it significantly and reduced it to mist again as the overcast returned.
    So the Florida primary is history, Romney won, and he only got 50 delegates so his total is far short of those required for the nomination. On to the next states. Meanwhile the Texas primary is in limbo. Texas is not amused. Don’t mess with Texas.

  29. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Tim & Shannon
    I got a forwarded email too about property tax, but don’t see a date other than May 12 (a Saturday) on it. The one I got said that over-65 was not included in the election that passed overwhelmingly. I don’t have time to research it right now but will when I can.

  30. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Tim & Shannon
    I got a forwarded email too about property tax, but don’t see a date other than May 12 (a Saturday) on it. The one I got said that over-65 was not included in the election that passed overwhelmingly. I don’t have time to research it right now but will when I can.

  31. Tedtam Avatar

    Considering how much Romney paid per vote in Florida – can he sustain this type of spending?

    And what does that say about his voters? Granted, the race is fluid, and if/when he gains momentum, people will tend to jump on his bandwagon, but I don’t find much emphasis being made as to how he garnered this win – and how much this scorched earth campaign against Gingrich may cost him in the long run. He’s created a lot of bad feelings amongst the Gingrich camp.

  32. Tedtam Avatar

    Considering how much Romney paid per vote in Florida – can he sustain this type of spending?
    And what does that say about his voters? Granted, the race is fluid, and if/when he gains momentum, people will tend to jump on his bandwagon, but I don’t find much emphasis being made as to how he garnered this win – and how much this scorched earth campaign against Gingrich may cost him in the long run. He’s created a lot of bad feelings amongst the Gingrich camp.

  33. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #18 – a “shooting reported with NO indication of foul play”

    *HUH?* did he pass while shooting skeet or whut?

    ST Theme ’71

    SooooooooooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuulllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllTRAIN

  34. Katfish Avatar

    #18 – a “shooting reported with NO indication of foul play”
    *HUH?* did he pass while shooting skeet or whut?
    ST Theme ’71
    SooooooooooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuulllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllTRAIN

  35. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Shannon is correct.

    This is an outdated email which has been circulating for several years. This issue was resolved by HB5 in 2007 as mentioned above.

    http://www.tad.org/WebPages/seniordisabledpropertytaxrelief.cfm

  36. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Shannon is correct.

    This is an outdated email which has been circulating for several years. This issue was resolved by HB5 in 2007 as mentioned above.

    http://www.tad.org/WebPages/seniordisabledpropertytaxrelief.cfm

  37. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Thanks harper.
    I’m bookmarking that site for future use.

  38. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Thanks harper.
    I’m bookmarking that site for future use.

  39. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Why? Do you own property in Fort Worth?

  40. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Why? Do you own property in Fort Worth?

  41. Tedtam Avatar

    Good for Indiana. “See you at the Super Bowl” sure sounds like a threat. Can’t get what you want, so you disrupt the Super Bowl?

    Man, are the unions going to have a national tidal wave of resentment if they do that! You don’t mess with the national religion, nor its greatest moment of worship!

  42. Tedtam Avatar

    Good for Indiana. “See you at the Super Bowl” sure sounds like a threat. Can’t get what you want, so you disrupt the Super Bowl?
    Man, are the unions going to have a national tidal wave of resentment if they do that! You don’t mess with the national religion, nor its greatest moment of worship!

  43. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    23
    No. I’m weary of five years of trying to explain to people that that email is old and moldy.
    In the future I will give them that link.

  44. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    23
    No. I’m weary of five years of trying to explain to people that that email is old and moldy.
    In the future I will give them that link.

  45. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    21 & 25

    Y’all gonna make me get up off this couch…… My joke was Liberal Aunt ginning up support for tax cuts, I thought tax cuts were bad, especially republican ones.

  46. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    21 & 25
    Y’all gonna make me get up off this couch…… My joke was Liberal Aunt ginning up support for tax cuts, I thought tax cuts were bad, especially republican ones.

  47. Hamous Avatar

    Gravity is a myth. The Earth sucks.

    Wonderful theology in a nutshell.

  48. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Gravity is a myth. The Earth sucks.

    Wonderful theology in a nutshell.

  49. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Y’all gonna make me get up off this couch…

    You are banned to the corner, indefinitely, wearing a cone of shame.

  50. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Y’all gonna make me get up off this couch…

    You are banned to the corner, indefinitely, wearing a cone of shame.

  51. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    28
    Juat don’t tell anyone there’s a secret HD TV over there in the corner.

  52. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    28
    Juat don’t tell anyone there’s a secret HD TV over there in the corner.

  53. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #26 Tim
    Ain’tchoo got no heart? That tax cut was for vunnables — old folks an’ cripples an’ such.

  54. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #26 Tim
    Ain’tchoo got no heart? That tax cut was for vunnables — old folks an’ cripples an’ such.

  55. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Got my dadgum blog stick over there in the corner too.

  56. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Got my dadgum blog stick over there in the corner too.

  57. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I bet my sinus headache is worse than yours.

  58. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I bet my sinus headache is worse than yours.

  59. Tedtam Avatar

    #33 Tex

    Cheap for who?

    All those whose votes are for sale.

  60. Tedtam Avatar

    #33 Tex

    Cheap for who?

    All those whose votes are for sale.

  61. Katfish Avatar

    #14 me

    When your message is insufficiently persuasive, go for wild, over the top behavior to force people to hear your statements.

    Another case in point.

  62. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #14 me

    When your message is insufficiently persuasive, go for wild, over the top behavior to force people to hear your statements.

    Another case in point.

  63. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    Interesting take on this (some emphasis MINE)

    OK – so let’s say Romney really is as bad as you all want us to believe he is. And let’s say he’s inevitable. Your choices then are “stay home” or “do what you’d do if Obama was going to win – try to negate his power and influence by taking control of Congress”. Why, precisely, should you not then be working to flip the Senate and extend our lead in the House/ Because the opportunity is there, folks, to not just flip Congress completely against either Obama or a hypothetical “moderate” Romney, but flip it to a version of the GOP that, so far, has been pretty Beltway-proof, and fairly dedicated to the mission for which they were sent to GOP by the Tea Party and a newly-resurgent conservative movement in the first place; togovern like conservatives. Keeping them that way is our job. Provided we don’t “stay home” and “teach everyone a lesson”. Because the only “lesson” you “teach” by staying home is that you’re unreliable and marginal. Don’t be that.

    Ten Things You Should Do If You’re An “Anybody But Mitt” Republican, And One You Should Not

    This post was promoted from GreenRoom to HotAir.com.
    To see the comments on the original post, look here.

    Or you can stay home. Your call.

  64. Katfish Avatar

    Interesting take on this (some emphasis MINE)

    OK – so let’s say Romney really is as bad as you all want us to believe he is. And let’s say he’s inevitable. Your choices then are “stay home” or “do what you’d do if Obama was going to win – try to negate his power and influence by taking control of Congress”. Why, precisely, should you not then be working to flip the Senate and extend our lead in the House/ Because the opportunity is there, folks, to not just flip Congress completely against either Obama or a hypothetical “moderate” Romney, but flip it to a version of the GOP that, so far, has been pretty Beltway-proof, and fairly dedicated to the mission for which they were sent to GOP by the Tea Party and a newly-resurgent conservative movement in the first place; togovern like conservatives. Keeping them that way is our job. Provided we don’t “stay home” and “teach everyone a lesson”. Because the only “lesson” you “teach” by staying home is that you’re unreliable and marginal. Don’t be that.

    Ten Things You Should Do If You’re An “Anybody But Mitt” Republican, And One You Should Not

    This post was promoted from GreenRoom to HotAir.com.
    To see the comments on the original post, look here.

    Or you can stay home. Your call.

  65. Katfish Avatar

    Letter from former slave to former master.

    He is much more civil than anyone would have expected.

  66. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Letter from former slave to former master.
    He is much more civil than anyone would have expected.

  67. Hamous Avatar

    Gravity is a myth. The Earth sucks.

    Wonderful theology in a nutshell.

    There is absolutely nothing wonderful about lib theology. My post was edited to say something it did not.

  68. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Gravity is a myth. The Earth sucks.
    Wonderful theology in a nutshell.

    There is absolutely nothing wonderful about lib theology. My post was edited to say something it did not.

  69. Katfish Avatar

    Hmmmm…..

    Wonder why? 😉

  70. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Hmmmm…..
    Wonder why? 😉

  71. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Or you can stay home. Your call.

    Or you can skip the box.

    Let’s say a total of 10 million voters show up. Six million vote for the Republican Senator, 4 million for the Democrat. But 4 million are cast for the Republican President, and 4 million for the Democrat.

    There’s a message there.

    Although given the reactions to the messages sent in the 2006, 2008, and 2010 elections, the republican party has difficulty reading messages.

    Which is why they have to be louder and more painful.

  72. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Or you can stay home. Your call.

    Or you can skip the box.
    Let’s say a total of 10 million voters show up. Six million vote for the Republican Senator, 4 million for the Democrat. But 4 million are cast for the Republican President, and 4 million for the Democrat.
    There’s a message there.
    Although given the reactions to the messages sent in the 2006, 2008, and 2010 elections, the republican party has difficulty reading messages.
    Which is why they have to be louder and more painful.

  73. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Of course there is another solution:

    RUN A FRIGGIN CANDIDATE THAT MAKES US RUSH OUT OF OUR HOUSES TO VOTE FOR HIM AND WORK REALLY HARD TO GET OTHER PEOPLE TO DO THE SAME THING.

  74. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Of course there is another solution:
    RUN A FRIGGIN CANDIDATE THAT MAKES US RUSH OUT OF OUR HOUSES TO VOTE FOR HIM AND WORK REALLY HARD TO GET OTHER PEOPLE TO DO THE SAME THING.

  75. Katfish Avatar

    I’ll bite.

    Just who exactly might that be?

  76. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I’ll bite.
    Just who exactly might that be?

  77. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Because the only “lesson” you “teach” by staying home is that you’re unreliable and marginal. Don’t be that.

    You know what?

    The frikkin Party has been showing me that THEY are the ones who are unreliable and marginal for the past 20 years or so.

    Time to switch places until they get more reliable and less marginal.

  78. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Because the only “lesson” you “teach” by staying home is that you’re unreliable and marginal. Don’t be that.

    You know what?
    The frikkin Party has been showing me that THEY are the ones who are unreliable and marginal for the past 20 years or so.
    Time to switch places until they get more reliable and less marginal.

  79. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I’ll bite.

    Just who exactly might that be?

    The comment doesn’t have to do with any specific candidate now running. That horse done left the barn last year.

    Tell the frikkin Party to stop telling me its my frikkin fault their candidates suck dead birds.

  80. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I’ll bite.
    Just who exactly might that be?

    The comment doesn’t have to do with any specific candidate now running. That horse done left the barn last year.
    Tell the frikkin Party to stop telling me its my frikkin fault their candidates suck dead birds.

  81. Katfish Avatar

    So if we could start over right now and you could pick any candidate right now (must be alive, be willing to put up with a vigorous, thorough, and public colonoscopy, etc.), who might that be?

    I hear lots of muling and puking, kvetching, wailing and gnashing of teeth, but I never hear of any actual suggestions.

  82. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    So if we could start over right now and you could pick any candidate right now (must be alive, be willing to put up with a vigorous, thorough, and public colonoscopy, etc.), who might that be?
    I hear lots of muling and puking, kvetching, wailing and gnashing of teeth, but I never hear of any actual suggestions.

  83. Hamous Avatar

    #47 Sarge: I agree that the R party leadership has its head securely up its nether regions (I hope the nanny doesn’t get upset about that phrase) and has for some time. They need to be replaced and right now would not be too soon. The bloody slug-fest going on in the R primaries is a good thing to a point, because the R leadership is, just maybe, getting an idea as to how upset the rank and file really are. It is absolutely imperative that we get as many conservative, constitutionalists in office down ballot as possible. That being said, whomever the R prez candidate is, we must vote for him. We need to take the attitude that a steaming plate of bovine processed hay is better for lunch than O is for prez. ANYBODY BUT OBAMA! Whomever the R candidate winds up to be, that is who I will vote for and I encourage you to do the same; ANYTHING ELSE is at best 1/2 vote for Obama and that is not acceptable.

  84. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #47 Sarge: I agree that the R party leadership has its head securely up its nether regions (I hope the nanny doesn’t get upset about that phrase) and has for some time. They need to be replaced and right now would not be too soon. The bloody slug-fest going on in the R primaries is a good thing to a point, because the R leadership is, just maybe, getting an idea as to how upset the rank and file really are. It is absolutely imperative that we get as many conservative, constitutionalists in office down ballot as possible. That being said, whomever the R prez candidate is, we must vote for him. We need to take the attitude that a steaming plate of bovine processed hay is better for lunch than O is for prez. ANYBODY BUT OBAMA! Whomever the R candidate winds up to be, that is who I will vote for and I encourage you to do the same; ANYTHING ELSE is at best 1/2 vote for Obama and that is not acceptable.

  85. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #46 & 47 – Amen Sarge!

    It seems like the RNC refuses to listen to anything or anyone that refuses to fall in 110% lock step with their misguided concepts of themselves……………..and as such they will continue to struggle and LOSE more elections – they sure aint getting one DIME from this desk until they listen to whom they CLAIM to represent

  86. Katfish Avatar

    #46 & 47 – Amen Sarge!
    It seems like the RNC refuses to listen to anything or anyone that refuses to fall in 110% lock step with their misguided concepts of themselves……………..and as such they will continue to struggle and LOSE more elections – they sure aint getting one DIME from this desk until they listen to whom they CLAIM to represent

  87. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #48 – ole Fred Thompson or Guvnah Palin for my 2 cents – for no other reason than they both proved neither cares who they WISS off

  88. Katfish Avatar

    #48 – ole Fred Thompson or Guvnah Palin for my 2 cents – for no other reason than they both proved neither cares who they WISS off

  89. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    So if we could start over right now and you could pick any candidate right now (must be alive, be willing to put up with a vigorous, thorough, and public colonoscopy, etc.), who might that be?

    I hear lots of muling and puking, kvetching, wailing and gnashing of teeth, but I never hear of any actual suggestions.

    The very first thing that should have happened was for somebody to say:

    “No Mitt, no this time, not ever.”

    Had that happened things would have gone one Hell of a lot smoother.

    And I think you kow that.

    Instead what happened was:

    “It has to be Mitt, and I think we can convince those ignent peasants to vote for him. Those that we can’t, we’ll marginalize and use them as an object lesson for the rest of them.”

  90. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    So if we could start over right now and you could pick any candidate right now (must be alive, be willing to put up with a vigorous, thorough, and public colonoscopy, etc.), who might that be?
    I hear lots of muling and puking, kvetching, wailing and gnashing of teeth, but I never hear of any actual suggestions.

    The very first thing that should have happened was for somebody to say:
    “No Mitt, no this time, not ever.”
    Had that happened things would have gone one Hell of a lot smoother.
    And I think you kow that.
    Instead what happened was:
    “It has to be Mitt, and I think we can convince those ignent peasants to vote for him. Those that we can’t, we’ll marginalize and use them as an object lesson for the rest of them.”

  91. Hamous Avatar

    #52 Sarge:

    “It has to be Mitt, and I think we can convince those ignent peasants to vote for him. Those that we can’t, we’ll marginalize and use them as an object lesson for the rest of them.”

    You are correct and that needs to change. The way we make that happen is to elect as many conservative constitutionalists down-ballot as possible; THEN AND ONLY THEN CAN WE CHANGE THE LEADERSHIP. If we don’t elect the non-Obama candidate whomever that is we will no longer be able to make that change as we will lose our country and freedoms. Now is not the time to go over the cliff in the car called “My principles” because we are wissed at the R leadership. There is way too much more at stake. Big rallies at the capital and around the country get their attention as well as no money to the national committees. We are not helpless; even with a squish like Romney in the WhiteHouse, he would be way better that what we have now. The real important thing is to get 60 (preferably 67) conservative votes in the senate and a 2/3 majority in the house, then it doesn’t much matter how squishy the R in the whitehouse is.

  92. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #52 Sarge:

    “It has to be Mitt, and I think we can convince those ignent peasants to vote for him. Those that we can’t, we’ll marginalize and use them as an object lesson for the rest of them.”

    You are correct and that needs to change. The way we make that happen is to elect as many conservative constitutionalists down-ballot as possible; THEN AND ONLY THEN CAN WE CHANGE THE LEADERSHIP. If we don’t elect the non-Obama candidate whomever that is we will no longer be able to make that change as we will lose our country and freedoms. Now is not the time to go over the cliff in the car called “My principles” because we are wissed at the R leadership. There is way too much more at stake. Big rallies at the capital and around the country get their attention as well as no money to the national committees. We are not helpless; even with a squish like Romney in the WhiteHouse, he would be way better that what we have now. The real important thing is to get 60 (preferably 67) conservative votes in the senate and a 2/3 majority in the house, then it doesn’t much matter how squishy the R in the whitehouse is.

  93. Katfish Avatar

    #51 katfish
    Neither seemed to be all that willing to run.

    #52 sarge
    Who?

    “Not Mitt Romney” is not an answer to the question.

  94. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #51 katfish
    Neither seemed to be all that willing to run.
    #52 sarge
    Who?
    “Not Mitt Romney” is not an answer to the question.

  95. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    #52 sarge
    Who?

    Any one of the candidates who stepped forward or whose name was mentioned as somebody else to run except for the one the base just didn’t want.

    It ain’t rocket science.

  96. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    #52 sarge
    Who?

    Any one of the candidates who stepped forward or whose name was mentioned as somebody else to run except for the one the base just didn’t want.
    It ain’t rocket science.

  97. Katfish Avatar

    The very first thing that should have happened was for somebody to say:

    “No Mitt, no this time, not ever.”

    Many people did. Even more did not. That’s what elections are for.

    Had that happened things would have gone one Hell of a lot smoother.

    And I think you kow that.

    I don’t know that and neither do you. In fact, I’d wager that things would more likely have gotten crazier in ways that neither of us would have guessed.

    Instead what happened was:

    “It has to be Mitt, and I think we can convince those ignent peasants to vote for him. Those that we can’t, we’ll marginalize and use them as an object lesson for the rest of them.”

    The pro-Romney people were (are) saying that. The anti-Romney people are saying the same thing – in the opposite direction. The pro-Romney faction seems to be prevailing. Guess what? That’s what elections are for.

  98. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    The very first thing that should have happened was for somebody to say:
    “No Mitt, no this time, not ever.”

    Many people did. Even more did not. That’s what elections are for.

    Had that happened things would have gone one Hell of a lot smoother.
    And I think you kow that.

    I don’t know that and neither do you. In fact, I’d wager that things would more likely have gotten crazier in ways that neither of us would have guessed.

    Instead what happened was:
    “It has to be Mitt, and I think we can convince those ignent peasants to vote for him. Those that we can’t, we’ll marginalize and use them as an object lesson for the rest of them.”

    The pro-Romney people were (are) saying that. The anti-Romney people are saying the same thing – in the opposite direction. The pro-Romney faction seems to be prevailing. Guess what? That’s what elections are for.

  99. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    “Not Mitt Romney” is not an answer to the question.

    It is if the question is:

    “Should we run Mitt Romney?”

  100. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    “Not Mitt Romney” is not an answer to the question.

    It is if the question is:
    “Should we run Mitt Romney?”

  101. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Many people did. Even more did not. That’s what elections are for.

    Some political scientists think it is more complex than that. For example, in The Party Decides, Marty Cohen, David Karol, Hans Noel, and John Zaller argue the rise of the invisible primary still gives the party control of presidential nominations:

  102. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Many people did. Even more did not. That’s what elections are for.

    Some political scientists think it is more complex than that. For example, in The Party Decides, Marty Cohen, David Karol, Hans Noel, and John Zaller argue the rise of the invisible primary still gives the party control of presidential nominations:

  103. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #54 – Sadly so……………………I also like Rep Allen West a LOT

  104. Katfish Avatar

    #54 – Sadly so……………………I also like Rep Allen West a LOT

  105. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I don’t know that and neither do you. In fact, I’d wager that things would more likely have gotten crazier in ways that neither of us would have guessed.

    And yet here we are, staring down the prospect of losing a race because the candidate is probably the worst we have run since the last time we ran the worst candidate we could have—which was the last time.

  106. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I don’t know that and neither do you. In fact, I’d wager that things would more likely have gotten crazier in ways that neither of us would have guessed.

    And yet here we are, staring down the prospect of losing a race because the candidate is probably the worst we have run since the last time we ran the worst candidate we could have—which was the last time.

  107. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I really do wish Party stalwarts would stop telling me I’m being the unreasonable one when they tell me Mitt Frikkin Romney is the best we can come up with.

  108. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I really do wish Party stalwarts would stop telling me I’m being the unreasonable one when they tell me Mitt Frikkin Romney is the best we can come up with.

  109. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I mean seriously, dude.

    Its not like we didn’t tell you this was going to happen.

  110. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I mean seriously, dude.
    Its not like we didn’t tell you this was going to happen.

  111. Katfish Avatar

    #55 sarge
    A name. An actual name.

    Of someone who would pass your purity test and who can beat Mitt Romney.

    Election cycles are like college football. The polls show who the flavor of the month is. The one who is the best, strongest, whatever. The election/season is there to actually prove who the “best” is. It doesn’t matter that Florida, Oklahoma, Alabama, LSU, Texas, TCU, or Miss Flossie’s School of Charm is the favorite of the sportswriters or political hacks.

    The one who prevails over the long term in the elections/season is the winner.

  112. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #55 sarge
    A name. An actual name.
    Of someone who would pass your purity test and who can beat Mitt Romney.
    Election cycles are like college football. The polls show who the flavor of the month is. The one who is the best, strongest, whatever. The election/season is there to actually prove who the “best” is. It doesn’t matter that Florida, Oklahoma, Alabama, LSU, Texas, TCU, or Miss Flossie’s School of Charm is the favorite of the sportswriters or political hacks.
    The one who prevails over the long term in the elections/season is the winner.

  113. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Man, the popularity of physics headers is overwhelming.

  114. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Man, the popularity of physics headers is overwhelming.

  115. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Go ahead. Stay home. Skip the box.

    Proudly insure your stand on principle and Obama’s reelection.

  116. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Go ahead. Stay home. Skip the box.
    Proudly insure your stand on principle and Obama’s reelection.

  117. Katfish Avatar

    I really do wish Party stalwarts would stop telling me I’m being the unreasonable one when they tell me Mitt Frikkin Romney is the best we can come up with.

    You have yet to posit a name of someone who would both:
    1. Be a closer match with your vision of a True Blue Conservative
    2. Be able to win enough delegates in enough primaries to beat Mitt Romney

    If those people who “tell me Mitt Frikkin Romney is the best we can come up with” are so wrong, then there surely must be at least one name you could come up with.

  118. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I really do wish Party stalwarts would stop telling me I’m being the unreasonable one when they tell me Mitt Frikkin Romney is the best we can come up with.

    You have yet to posit a name of someone who would both:
    1. Be a closer match with your vision of a True Blue Conservative
    2. Be able to win enough delegates in enough primaries to beat Mitt Romney
    If those people who “tell me Mitt Frikkin Romney is the best we can come up with” are so wrong, then there surely must be at least one name you could come up with.

  119. Hamous Avatar

    skipping the box is at least 1/2 vote for JugEars. As much as I detest mittens, if he were the nominee, one would have to physically restrain me in order to keep me from casting the vote against JugEars.

  120. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    skipping the box is at least 1/2 vote for JugEars. As much as I detest mittens, if he were the nominee, one would have to physically restrain me in order to keep me from casting the vote against JugEars.

  121. Hamous Avatar

    I think the best way to send the R leadership the message is to not send them any money. Support your candidates of choice and leave the big party out of it.

  122. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    I think the best way to send the R leadership the message is to not send them any money. Support your candidates of choice and leave the big party out of it.

  123. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    #55 sarge
    A name. An actual name.

    I’m tired of the game you’re playing to pretend you’re not getting the point.

  124. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    #55 sarge
    A name. An actual name.

    I’m tired of the game you’re playing to pretend you’re not getting the point.

  125. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Sarah Palin
    Mitch Daniels
    Newt Gingrich
    Rick Santorum
    Michelle Bachmann

    Put the resources that the Party put behind Romney behind any one of those and you’d have a better candidate.

  126. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Sarah Palin
    Mitch Daniels
    Newt Gingrich
    Rick Santorum
    Michelle Bachmann
    Put the resources that the Party put behind Romney behind any one of those and you’d have a better candidate.

  127. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    68 Bonecrusher says:
    February 1, 2012 at 4:32 pm
    I think the best way to send the R leadership the message is to not send them any money. Support your candidates of choice and leave the big party out of it.

    Doesn’t matter. Its more complicated than that. Big money is big money.

  128. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    68 Bonecrusher says:
    February 1, 2012 at 4:32 pm
    I think the best way to send the R leadership the message is to not send them any money. Support your candidates of choice and leave the big party out of it.

    Doesn’t matter. Its more complicated than that. Big money is big money.

  129. Katfish Avatar

    I’m tired of the game you’re playing to pretend you’re not getting the point.

    An I tire of the game you play, kvetching about how detestable Mitt Romney specifically is and the “Republican Establishment” in general is, all the while saying that some Evil Cabal is keeping us from electing a True Blue Conservative.

    There have been several alternative candidates to Romney. All have imploded for one reason or another. I happen to think it is more the result of the dominant media inflicting us with its agenda than it is the result of an Evil Cabal of Country Club Republicans.

    Whine all you want about how bad Romney is, but until someone comes along who can get more votes than he can runs in an election against him and who is willing to put up with the process of getting elected, he’s gonna be the nominee.

  130. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I’m tired of the game you’re playing to pretend you’re not getting the point.

    An I tire of the game you play, kvetching about how detestable Mitt Romney specifically is and the “Republican Establishment” in general is, all the while saying that some Evil Cabal is keeping us from electing a True Blue Conservative.
    There have been several alternative candidates to Romney. All have imploded for one reason or another. I happen to think it is more the result of the dominant media inflicting us with its agenda than it is the result of an Evil Cabal of Country Club Republicans.
    Whine all you want about how bad Romney is, but until someone comes along who can get more votes than he can runs in an election against him and who is willing to put up with the process of getting elected, he’s gonna be the nominee.

  131. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    65
    Because, in the end, forcing reform of teh Establishment Republican Party is more important than decades of suffering under an Obama-packed Supreme Courf.

  132. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    65
    Because, in the end, forcing reform of teh Establishment Republican Party is more important than decades of suffering under an Obama-packed Supreme Courf.

  133. Katfish Avatar

    #70 sarge
    That’s better.

    Two of those didn’t run.

    One did well, then kinda went kookoo.

    One has been doing well but has shown himself to be what many already thought – a semi-conservative who talks real good, but has an ill-suited temperament and has allowed himself to get sidetracked to the point where he has essentially self-destructed

    The last one has the appeal of a bowl of oatmeal. He would be good for you, but you’d have to drag yourself to actually show up to vote for him. In other words, only the true blues would show up, everyone else would collectively say “meh” and have something else to do that day. Not to mention the fact that he can’t even get more votes than the resident loon, let alone get close to the top.

    Put the resources that the Party put behind Romney behind any one of those and you’d have a better candidate.

    Haven’t really seen that much evidence of the Party doing that. Heavy-hitters in the party maybe, but that’s not the Party.

  134. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #70 sarge
    That’s better.
    Two of those didn’t run.
    One did well, then kinda went kookoo.
    One has been doing well but has shown himself to be what many already thought – a semi-conservative who talks real good, but has an ill-suited temperament and has allowed himself to get sidetracked to the point where he has essentially self-destructed
    The last one has the appeal of a bowl of oatmeal. He would be good for you, but you’d have to drag yourself to actually show up to vote for him. In other words, only the true blues would show up, everyone else would collectively say “meh” and have something else to do that day. Not to mention the fact that he can’t even get more votes than the resident loon, let alone get close to the top.

    Put the resources that the Party put behind Romney behind any one of those and you’d have a better candidate.

    Haven’t really seen that much evidence of the Party doing that. Heavy-hitters in the party maybe, but that’s not the Party.

  135. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Haven’t really seen that much evidence of the Party doing that. Heavy-hitters in the party maybe, but that’s not the Party.

    It sure as Hell ain’t the base.

    Now tell me how we get them to stop doing that crap, short of not voting for the candidates they foist on us.

    73 Shannon says:
    February 1, 2012 at 4:45 pm
    65
    Because, in the end, forcing reform of teh Establishment Republican Party is more important than decades of suffering under an Obama-packed Supreme Courf.

    Right. I’m supposed to vote for Romney because his record on gun control, socialized medicine, and abortion is so much better than Obama’s it will guarantee that his SCOTUS choices will be more to my liking.

  136. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Haven’t really seen that much evidence of the Party doing that. Heavy-hitters in the party maybe, but that’s not the Party.

    It sure as Hell ain’t the base.
    Now tell me how we get them to stop doing that crap, short of not voting for the candidates they foist on us.

    73 Shannon says:
    February 1, 2012 at 4:45 pm
    65
    Because, in the end, forcing reform of teh Establishment Republican Party is more important than decades of suffering under an Obama-packed Supreme Courf.

    Right. I’m supposed to vote for Romney because his record on gun control, socialized medicine, and abortion is so much better than Obama’s it will guarantee that his SCOTUS choices will be more to my liking.

  137. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Right. I’m supposed to vote for Romney because his record on gun control, socialized medicine, and abortion is so much better than Obama’s it will guarantee that his SCOTUS choices will be more to my liking.

    I repeat, (because you are not listening),

    Because, in the end, forcing reform of teh Establishment Republican Party is more important than decades of suffering under an Obama-packed Supreme Courf.

  138. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Right. I’m supposed to vote for Romney because his record on gun control, socialized medicine, and abortion is so much better than Obama’s it will guarantee that his SCOTUS choices will be more to my liking.

    I repeat, (because you are not listening),
    Because, in the end, forcing reform of teh Establishment Republican Party is more important than decades of suffering under an Obama-packed Supreme Courf.

  139. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    The April 3 Texas primary is officially dead, thanks to the federal court.
    Like Adee says, Texas and California may have a real role in what happens at the convention.

    But none of that matters if teh Republican Party reformers have their way. But that’s okay, we’ll raise a mighty statue of them on the sandy banks of the Brazos river.

  140. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    The April 3 Texas primary is officially dead, thanks to the federal court.
    Like Adee says, Texas and California may have a real role in what happens at the convention.
    But none of that matters if teh Republican Party reformers have their way. But that’s okay, we’ll raise a mighty statue of them on the sandy banks of the Brazos river.

  141. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    70 Sarge

    Mitch Daniels

    YES, he would have been good, but I’ve heard he chose not to run because he didn’t want to have to explain a rift in his marriage, since patched up.

    I will gladly vote for Mitt Romney if he is the R candidate. No matter how badly he sucks, he and his wife are so much better than Obammy and Michelle.

  142. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    70 Sarge

    Mitch Daniels

    YES, he would have been good, but I’ve heard he chose not to run because he didn’t want to have to explain a rift in his marriage, since patched up.
    I will gladly vote for Mitt Romney if he is the R candidate. No matter how badly he sucks, he and his wife are so much better than Obammy and Michelle.

  143. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    How long have we been SERGEBONE?

  144. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    How long have we been SERGEBONE?

  145. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Right. I’m supposed to vote for Romney because his record on gun control, socialized medicine, and abortion is so much better than Obama’s it will guarantee that his SCOTUS choices will be more to my liking.

    Two Obama appointees would pretty much guarantee at least a couple of decades of supporting a “constitutional right” to abortion, allow the federal government viotlate gun rights, and allow Obamacare to become the law of the land. The court apointments are one one the most underestimated reasons to boot Obama out 2012.

  146. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Right. I’m supposed to vote for Romney because his record on gun control, socialized medicine, and abortion is so much better than Obama’s it will guarantee that his SCOTUS choices will be more to my liking.

    Two Obama appointees would pretty much guarantee at least a couple of decades of supporting a “constitutional right” to abortion, allow the federal government viotlate gun rights, and allow Obamacare to become the law of the land. The court apointments are one one the most underestimated reasons to boot Obama out 2012.

  147. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I also like Rep Allen West a LOT

    Who doesn’t? 🙂

  148. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I also like Rep Allen West a LOT

    Who doesn’t? 🙂

  149. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Sarge #52;

    It has to be Mitt, and I think we can convince those ignent peasants to vote for him.

    I do hope you recall tat at least in my case I did not want Mitt until after Cain and Bachman dropped out. Well, I dropped Bachman when she started talking crazy talk about Newt.

    You do also know Gingrich isn’t going to win, right? 😉

  150. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Sarge #52;

    It has to be Mitt, and I think we can convince those ignent peasants to vote for him.

    I do hope you recall tat at least in my case I did not want Mitt until after Cain and Bachman dropped out. Well, I dropped Bachman when she started talking crazy talk about Newt.
    You do also know Gingrich isn’t going to win, right? 😉

  151. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Anyone who knows a little about political science and statistics understands that in order to win the Presidency, you have to win a little over half the convoluted system we have in place to elect said individual. Every issue is subject to a bell curve effect, and the trick is to convince the voters that you are on the right side of over half the issues. As the mood of the country changes, the politics will naturally change with it. What we see now, the young voters who will soon become the older voters, are dumber than rocks as a result of their educational and familial upbringings, and that’s reflective of our nation today. Politicians recognize the need to be flexible in their opinions, therefore we cannot have anyone who can stand on principle (except with a few rare exceptions). How we wound up with a bonafide lefty is a tribute to the dumbing down of our nation, and how our choices apparently will be Obama or Obama barely lite. Get used to it and more on to figuring out how to protect yourself, your family, and your worldly possessions, because that’s America today.

  152. El Gordo Avatar

    Anyone who knows a little about political science and statistics understands that in order to win the Presidency, you have to win a little over half the convoluted system we have in place to elect said individual. Every issue is subject to a bell curve effect, and the trick is to convince the voters that you are on the right side of over half the issues. As the mood of the country changes, the politics will naturally change with it. What we see now, the young voters who will soon become the older voters, are dumber than rocks as a result of their educational and familial upbringings, and that’s reflective of our nation today. Politicians recognize the need to be flexible in their opinions, therefore we cannot have anyone who can stand on principle (except with a few rare exceptions). How we wound up with a bonafide lefty is a tribute to the dumbing down of our nation, and how our choices apparently will be Obama or Obama barely lite. Get used to it and more on to figuring out how to protect yourself, your family, and your worldly possessions, because that’s America today.

  153. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    Sarge,

    Loosen the helmet strap a bit. I will vote for Santorum when the Texas Primary comes around. I doubt that he will win the big one unless Newt and Mitt get caught hanging out together in a bathhouse on South Beach. I am used to backing guys that lose. Life does go on and NONE of these guys are worth bursting an artery over.

    We can only count on our friends and loved ones.

    Simple

    P.S. I am very used to feeling like I am on the outside looking inward, since I count myself as an independent and a moderate. Both parties want our votes but are soon stricken with a severe case of “Who are you?” once the election is over.

  154. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    Sarge,
    Loosen the helmet strap a bit. I will vote for Santorum when the Texas Primary comes around. I doubt that he will win the big one unless Newt and Mitt get caught hanging out together in a bathhouse on South Beach. I am used to backing guys that lose. Life does go on and NONE of these guys are worth bursting an artery over.
    We can only count on our friends and loved ones.
    Simple
    P.S. I am very used to feeling like I am on the outside looking inward, since I count myself as an independent and a moderate. Both parties want our votes but are soon stricken with a severe case of “Who are you?” once the election is over.

  155. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    Hamous,

    Sergebone? Really! Why not Simply Sergebone?

  156. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    Hamous,
    Sergebone? Really! Why not Simply Sergebone?

  157. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    to my #83;

    Let’s also add that what would make me most happy at this point (politically-speaking) is if santorum won the primaries. Aslo, I’d very much will vote for Gingrich if he won the primaries.

  158. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    to my #83;
    Let’s also add that what would make me most happy at this point (politically-speaking) is if santorum won the primaries. Aslo, I’d very much will vote for Gingrich if he won the primaries.

  159. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    unless Newt and Mitt get caught hanging out together in a bathhouse on South Beach

    Doing what? I don’t get it.

    😉

    (Going to scrub brain of mental image)

  160. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    unless Newt and Mitt get caught hanging out together in a bathhouse on South Beach

    Doing what? I don’t get it.
    😉
    (Going to scrub brain of mental image)

  161. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    85 Gordo,

    Answer: You got Obama because McCain was a terrible candidate in 2008. He came off as a tired grumpy old man. His political leanings had little to do with it. A candidate for President has to have a positive attitude and can never ever afford to gripe, grumble, frown, or scowl. McCain has still not figured it out.

    It is the one thing that Reagan, Clinton, Bush-I, Bush-II, Kennedy, Eisenhower, and Roosevelt all had in common. Nixon and Truman were the exceptions to this rule, but both of them left office with approval ratings in the cellar. Truman was able to salvage his reputation, but it took years.

    Simple

  162. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    85 Gordo,
    Answer: You got Obama because McCain was a terrible candidate in 2008. He came off as a tired grumpy old man. His political leanings had little to do with it. A candidate for President has to have a positive attitude and can never ever afford to gripe, grumble, frown, or scowl. McCain has still not figured it out.
    It is the one thing that Reagan, Clinton, Bush-I, Bush-II, Kennedy, Eisenhower, and Roosevelt all had in common. Nixon and Truman were the exceptions to this rule, but both of them left office with approval ratings in the cellar. Truman was able to salvage his reputation, but it took years.
    Simple

  163. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    Just curious, is there much information on what judges Romney would appoint? Did he appoint any as governor?

  164. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    Just curious, is there much information on what judges Romney would appoint? Did he appoint any as governor?

  165. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #90 Simple, you are right up to a point, but remember that as bad as Mc Cain was the polling had him doing well right up to the end, the reason you Axe? Because the closer we got to the general the more the common folks realised that they had NO IDEA who this Obama guy was. That said, I held my nose and voted for Mc Cain because I felt like I had no other choice. As a “side bar” I said early on that I didn’t think ANY Republican could win because W was beat to a pulp by the media and he didn’t fight back, they did the same thing to Reagan but he shrugged it off and went to the people and remained popular. If the B!tch had won the Primary, she would be the president today and would have an easy win for her second term,…..I don’t like the thought of that fact but, sadly, it is true. 🙁

  166. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #90 Simple, you are right up to a point, but remember that as bad as Mc Cain was the polling had him doing well right up to the end, the reason you Axe? Because the closer we got to the general the more the common folks realised that they had NO IDEA who this Obama guy was. That said, I held my nose and voted for Mc Cain because I felt like I had no other choice. As a “side bar” I said early on that I didn’t think ANY Republican could win because W was beat to a pulp by the media and he didn’t fight back, they did the same thing to Reagan but he shrugged it off and went to the people and remained popular. If the B!tch had won the Primary, she would be the president today and would have an easy win for her second term,…..I don’t like the thought of that fact but, sadly, it is true. 🙁

  167. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #91 GTO, I’ve not LQQKed it up but I’ve heard that he appointed liberal judges because he was in a VERY liberal state.

  168. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #91 GTO, I’ve not LQQKed it up but I’ve heard that he appointed liberal judges because he was in a VERY liberal state.

  169. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Those of you looking at Sanitarium, just remember that he is a social conservative but a big government, big spending guy. Frankly, I am less concerned about the state of our nation’s social decay than I am about our fiscal condition. I don’t see more government spending to be the solution to our debt and economic problems. He’s probably a great guy, but a big spender of OPM.

  170. El Gordo Avatar

    Those of you looking at Sanitarium, just remember that he is a social conservative but a big government, big spending guy. Frankly, I am less concerned about the state of our nation’s social decay than I am about our fiscal condition. I don’t see more government spending to be the solution to our debt and economic problems. He’s probably a great guy, but a big spender of OPM.

  171. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    gto;

    Did he appoint any as governor?

    This looks like a good website on both his nominations and his statements regarding US Supreme Court confirmations.

  172. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    gto;

    Did he appoint any as governor?

    This looks like a good website on both his nominations and his statements regarding US Supreme Court confirmations.

  173. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #95 ❓

  174. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #95 ❓

  175. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Republican presidential contender Mitt Romney renewed his support Wednesday for automatic increases in the federal minimum wage to keep pace with inflation, a position sharply at odds with traditional GOP business allies, conservatives and the party’s senior lawmakers…

    Congress first enacted federal minimum wage legislation in 1938 and has raised it sporadically in the years since. The last increase, approved in 2007, took effect in three installments and reached $7.25 an hour for covered workers effective July 24, 2009.

    It has never been allowed to rise automatically, as Romney envisions.

    Organized labor generally supports increases in the minimum wage, and Romney’s position could give him cross-over appeal among blue-collar Democrats in a general election campaign.

    (Bold from original)

    Yikes! 😯

    Romney: Oh, you’d better believe I support automatic increases to the minimum wage

  176. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Republican presidential contender Mitt Romney renewed his support Wednesday for automatic increases in the federal minimum wage to keep pace with inflation, a position sharply at odds with traditional GOP business allies, conservatives and the party’s senior lawmakers…
    Congress first enacted federal minimum wage legislation in 1938 and has raised it sporadically in the years since. The last increase, approved in 2007, took effect in three installments and reached $7.25 an hour for covered workers effective July 24, 2009.
    It has never been allowed to rise automatically, as Romney envisions.
    Organized labor generally supports increases in the minimum wage, and Romney’s position could give him cross-over appeal among blue-collar Democrats in a general election campaign.

    (Bold from original)
    Yikes! 😯
    Romney: Oh, you’d better believe I support automatic increases to the minimum wage

  177. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    OK, it has been brougnt to my attention that we just don’t know WTF is going on; First lady Michelle Obama cites ‘remarkable progress’ on the economy.

  178. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    OK, it has been brougnt to my attention that we just don’t know WTF is going on; First lady Michelle Obama cites ‘remarkable progress’ on the economy.

  179. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    FREAKING #99

  180. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    HUNERT

  181. Hamous Avatar

    From deep in the Pot Calling the Kettle Black department:

    HEADLINE:Paul campaign: Newt must pay medical bills for broken foot
    “They say the culture of an organization is a reflection of its top executive and today’s deplorable behavior against Ron Paul supporter Eddie Dillard in Florida reflects very poorly on Congressman Gingrich,” said Benton.
    /snip
    “There is simply no excuse for the type of violent, boorish and abusive behavior demonstrated by Mr. Gingrich’s campaign,” Benton continued. “We hope Mr. Gingrich understands this.”

    I think the Luap Norians need to get a wissin grip . . . . . on something else . . .

  182. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    From deep in the Pot Calling the Kettle Black department:

    HEADLINE:Paul campaign: Newt must pay medical bills for broken foot
    “They say the culture of an organization is a reflection of its top executive and today’s deplorable behavior against Ron Paul supporter Eddie Dillard in Florida reflects very poorly on Congressman Gingrich,” said Benton.
    /snip
    “There is simply no excuse for the type of violent, boorish and abusive behavior demonstrated by Mr. Gingrich’s campaign,” Benton continued. “We hope Mr. Gingrich understands this.”

    I think the Luap Norians need to get a wissin grip . . . . . on something else . . .

  183. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Please delete

  184. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Please delete

  185. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    testing, is this thing on?

  186. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    testing, is this thing on?

  187. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    As the birthplace of the Republican Party, the state that fighting Bob LaFollette called home and was among the first to recognize the rights of public service employees to organize, Wisconsin has posted the [recall petition names] on their website today as promised.

    1 million signatures, that’s a lot of annoyed people

  188. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    As the birthplace of the Republican Party, the state that fighting Bob LaFollette called home and was among the first to recognize the rights of public service employees to organize, Wisconsin has posted the [recall petition names] on their website today as promised.
    1 million signatures, that’s a lot of annoyed people

  189. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Congratulations Darren! There can never be too many of these gifts.

  190. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Congratulations Darren! There can never be too many of these gifts.

  191. Hamous Avatar

    among the first to recognize the rights of public service employees to organize,

    The bolded section is so absurd it almost defies comment. Public service employees do not have a right to organize and brow beat other public service employees for more money in return for campaign contributions. This is the definition of abuse of taxpayer.

  192. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    among the first to recognize the rights of public service employees to organize,

    The bolded section is so absurd it almost defies comment. Public service employees do not have a right to organize and brow beat other public service employees for more money in return for campaign contributions. This is the definition of abuse of taxpayer.

  193. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Shamaal #105;

    Congratulations Darren! There can never be too many of these gifts.

    Thanks! Ummmm, you’re talking about the baby, right? 😉

  194. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Shamaal #105;

    Congratulations Darren! There can never be too many of these gifts.

    Thanks! Ummmm, you’re talking about the baby, right? 😉

  195. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Hmmm …………… scratches head.
    Mebbe I should go back and read the posts again and look for something else you received that could be construed as a gift.
    I was working yesterday, but yes I meant the baby(s). 😉

  196. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Hmmm …………… scratches head.
    Mebbe I should go back and read the posts again and look for something else you received that could be construed as a gift.
    I was working yesterday, but yes I meant the baby(s). 😉

  197. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    There’s an entire world out there, that I am clearly not familiar with

  198. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    There’s an entire world out there, that I am clearly not familiar with

  199. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    The Party has no control.

    OK.

    Let’s see how this turns out.

    TAMPA, Fla. — Florida’s primary might not be over just yet.

    The Newt Gingrich campaign is gearing up to challenge the results of the Florida Republican presidential primary based on the Republican National Committee’s own rules which state that no contest can be winner-take-all prior to April 1, 2012. (See RNC memo.)

    It was assumed that Mitt Romney, who won Tuesday’s contest, would gain all 50 of the state’s delegates. But the Gingrich campaign plans to challenge Florida’s allocation and demand the delegates be divvied up proportionally. (See Gingrich memo.)

    Fox News has learned exclusively that on Thursday, a Florida Gingrich campaign official will begin the process of trying to have the RNC rules enforced so that the Sunshine State delegates are distributed based on the percentage of the vote each candidate got.

    RNC Chairman Reince Priebus warned Florida Republican Party Chairman Lenny Curry of the violation in a December letter quoting the rule, “…’winner-take-all’ states cannot hold a primary or caucus before April 1, 2012.”

    Ok, Republican Party.

    Show me.

  200. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    The Party has no control.
    OK.
    Let’s see how this turns out.

    TAMPA, Fla. — Florida’s primary might not be over just yet.
    The Newt Gingrich campaign is gearing up to challenge the results of the Florida Republican presidential primary based on the Republican National Committee’s own rules which state that no contest can be winner-take-all prior to April 1, 2012. (See RNC memo.)
    It was assumed that Mitt Romney, who won Tuesday’s contest, would gain all 50 of the state’s delegates. But the Gingrich campaign plans to challenge Florida’s allocation and demand the delegates be divvied up proportionally. (See Gingrich memo.)
    Fox News has learned exclusively that on Thursday, a Florida Gingrich campaign official will begin the process of trying to have the RNC rules enforced so that the Sunshine State delegates are distributed based on the percentage of the vote each candidate got.
    RNC Chairman Reince Priebus warned Florida Republican Party Chairman Lenny Curry of the violation in a December letter quoting the rule, “…’winner-take-all’ states cannot hold a primary or caucus before April 1, 2012.”

    Ok, Republican Party.
    Show me.

  201. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    #110

    I hear there are thousands of iceholes up there.

  202. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #110
    I hear there are thousands of iceholes up there.

  203. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Yeah, the electorate is on the verge of rising up in vociferous indignation about the raw deal imposed upon government employees.

  204. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Yeah, the electorate is on the verge of rising up in vociferous indignation about the raw deal imposed upon government employees.

  205. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Day in and day out, the average man on the street frets about the plight of government employees.

  206. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Day in and day out, the average man on the street frets about the plight of government employees.

  207. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    #112 Enchanter
    😉

  208. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    #112 Enchanter
    😉

  209. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Church ladies across the land gather every day and prepare care packages for struggling government employees.

  210. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Church ladies across the land gather every day and prepare care packages for struggling government employees.

  211. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #113, 114, & 116 – ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    (yer still feeding it Bootzso)

  212. Katfish Avatar

    #113, 114, & 116 – ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
    (yer still feeding it Bootzso)

  213. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    The 80+ percent of the workforce that is non-union grieve over the hardships faced by unionized government workers.

  214. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    The 80+ percent of the workforce that is non-union grieve over the hardships faced by unionized government workers.

  215. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Candlelight vigils are swamping every hill and dale in the country.

  216. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Candlelight vigils are swamping every hill and dale in the country.

  217. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Not only that, but they sign recall petitions by the millions

  218. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Not only that, but they sign recall petitions by the millions

  219. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Understatement of the day award

    However, in the case of San Onofre, it’s unlikely the leak had anything to do with seismic safety and was probably just faulty equipment. Officials have been taking extra care to reassure the public that there’s no danger, since after Japan, the idea of radiation leaking from a nuclear plant tends to set people on edge.

    Do ya think?

  220. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Understatement of the day award

    However, in the case of San Onofre, it’s unlikely the leak had anything to do with seismic safety and was probably just faulty equipment. Officials have been taking extra care to reassure the public that there’s no danger, since after Japan, the idea of radiation leaking from a nuclear plant tends to set people on edge.

    Do ya think?

  221. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    The fourteen million unemployed rally daily in support of oppressed, overworked government employees.

  222. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    The fourteen million unemployed rally daily in support of oppressed, overworked government employees.

  223. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Uh oh.
    I now see the SergeBone masthead.

  224. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Uh oh.
    I now see the SergeBone masthead.

  225. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Late this afternoon I reviewed the recall petition signature list posted on a link in Wisconsin Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald’s newsletter. He is asking supporters to look for their names or names of relatives, friends, or neighbors who did not sign petitions to recall him and to report that information. The petition list covers only his senatorial district, not the entire state. I did not find any names of my family or spouse’s family or our friends. I forwarded the newsletter to high-school classmates and friends in Wisconsin and elsewhere for their perusal and asked them to send it on to their kin and friends.

    The GAB (Government Accountability Board) that said it wasn’t going to post the petition signature lists online did a 180 late yesterday, and the lists will be online. One must suspect that a very large foot (probably a judicial foot) met many rear ends in that organization to produce an attitude adjustment. 🙂 Especially since it is legally required to do so….

    Tomorrow is Groundhog Day, and whether it and/or the Texas prairie dog see their shadows or not is irrelevant to when Spring begins, since that is a celestial matter.

  226. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Late this afternoon I reviewed the recall petition signature list posted on a link in Wisconsin Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald’s newsletter. He is asking supporters to look for their names or names of relatives, friends, or neighbors who did not sign petitions to recall him and to report that information. The petition list covers only his senatorial district, not the entire state. I did not find any names of my family or spouse’s family or our friends. I forwarded the newsletter to high-school classmates and friends in Wisconsin and elsewhere for their perusal and asked them to send it on to their kin and friends.
    The GAB (Government Accountability Board) that said it wasn’t going to post the petition signature lists online did a 180 late yesterday, and the lists will be online. One must suspect that a very large foot (probably a judicial foot) met many rear ends in that organization to produce an attitude adjustment. 🙂 Especially since it is legally required to do so….
    Tomorrow is Groundhog Day, and whether it and/or the Texas prairie dog see their shadows or not is irrelevant to when Spring begins, since that is a celestial matter.

  227. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    123 Shannon says:
    February 1, 2012 at 10:19 pm
    Uh oh.
    I now see the SergeBone masthead.

    Its what takes the place of philosophically, rationally, and intellectually discussing the content of the post made on Hot Air and the book it discusses.

    Apparently, making believe I’m the only person who see these things gives comfort to some folks.

  228. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    123 Shannon says:
    February 1, 2012 at 10:19 pm
    Uh oh.
    I now see the SergeBone masthead.

    Its what takes the place of philosophically, rationally, and intellectually discussing the content of the post made on Hot Air and the book it discusses.
    Apparently, making believe I’m the only person who see these things gives comfort to some folks.

  229. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Shannon #116;

    LOL!

  230. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Shannon #116;
    LOL!

  231. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Mebbe I should go back and read the posts again and look for something else you received that could be construed as a gift.

    That would be my mere presence. 😉

  232. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Mebbe I should go back and read the posts again and look for something else you received that could be construed as a gift.

    That would be my mere presence. 😉

  233. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    The Newt Gingrich campaign is gearing up to challenge the results of the Florida Republican presidential primary based on the Republican National Committee’s own rules which state that no contest can be winner-take-all prior to April 1, 2012…

    Fox News has learned exclusively that on Thursday, a Florida Gingrich campaign official will begin the process of trying to have the RNC rules enforced so that the Sunshine State delegates are distributed based on the percentage of the vote each candidate got.

    RNC Chairman Reince Priebus warned Florida Republican Party Chairman Lenny Curry of the violation in a December letter quoting the rule, “…’winner-take-all’ states cannot hold a primary or caucus before April 1, 2012.”

    Huh? This is weirder than filing a federal lawsuit over disgrunted *state* results in an election. OK, so the RNC has their rules, isn’t Forida still a sovereign state?

    Gingrich to challenge Florida’s “winner take all” rule, demand proportional award of delegates

    And if this was so important to Newt than why not bring this up before? (An “update” asks the same queston within the link).

  234. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    The Newt Gingrich campaign is gearing up to challenge the results of the Florida Republican presidential primary based on the Republican National Committee’s own rules which state that no contest can be winner-take-all prior to April 1, 2012…
    Fox News has learned exclusively that on Thursday, a Florida Gingrich campaign official will begin the process of trying to have the RNC rules enforced so that the Sunshine State delegates are distributed based on the percentage of the vote each candidate got.
    RNC Chairman Reince Priebus warned Florida Republican Party Chairman Lenny Curry of the violation in a December letter quoting the rule, “…’winner-take-all’ states cannot hold a primary or caucus before April 1, 2012.”

    Huh? This is weirder than filing a federal lawsuit over disgrunted *state* results in an election. OK, so the RNC has their rules, isn’t Forida still a sovereign state?
    Gingrich to challenge Florida’s “winner take all” rule, demand proportional award of delegates
    And if this was so important to Newt than why not bring this up before? (An “update” asks the same queston within the link).

  235. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Huh? This is weirder than filing a federal lawsuit over disgrunted *state* results in an election. OK, so the RNC has their rules, isn’t Forida still a sovereign state?

    Ummmm—-yes.

    But the Republican Party makes the rules for thier primary and convention.

    Gingrich didn’t make an issue about it before hand for the same reason Romney didn’t:

    In case he won.

    And if Gingrich had won, Romney would be bringing this up.

  236. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Huh? This is weirder than filing a federal lawsuit over disgrunted *state* results in an election. OK, so the RNC has their rules, isn’t Forida still a sovereign state?

    Ummmm—-yes.
    But the Republican Party makes the rules for thier primary and convention.
    Gingrich didn’t make an issue about it before hand for the same reason Romney didn’t:
    In case he won.
    And if Gingrich had won, Romney would be bringing this up.

  237. Katfish Avatar

    Not only that, but they sign recall petitions by the millions

    “they” in this case = a couple thousand malcontents making up names to write on petitions

  238. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Not only that, but they sign recall petitions by the millions

    “they” in this case = a couple thousand malcontents making up names to write on petitions

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