Thursday Worse than Politics Open Comments

I was waiting for this, but it sends chills up and down my spine.

…we could lose a century of progress and find ourselves dying in the millions from tuberculosis, just like our 19th-century ancestors.

I was exposed to TB as a child, and had to have lung x-rays every year until I went to college. It was active for a short time, and I have some lesions that show up on x-rays, but my body managed to fight it off before I even knew I was sick. Maybe I’ll be one of the lucky ones; I might have some immunity.

According to the original report, published Dec. 21 in Clinical Infectious Diseases, a hospital in Mumbai, India had identified 12 TB patients whose disease resisted all antibiotics. Nothing worked with them. All the patients appeared to have strains of TB known as multi-drug resistant (MDR-TB) and extremely drug resistant (XDR-TB).

Ever since the advent of sulfa drugs and penicillin, we have been locked in an arms race with bacteria. Antibiotics originally had wonderfully lethal effects on many infections. But in some cases a few bacteria had genetic resistance to a given drug, or the treatment wasn’t long or intense enough. Either way, the survivors learned to best such drugs. We came up with new drugs, and again they worked — until a few bacteria survived and multiplied.

What have we wrought? We now have a society of people whose immunity has not been tested, especially against a strain of superbugs. I remember when Handsome Son had a string of ear infections. We went from antibiotic to antibiotic, ending up with one that cost $3.10 per teaspoon. I swore that if he knocked it on the floor, he was going to lick it up from wherever it landed. Fortunately, he was a calm child, and we never had to test my determination in the matter. It was alarming that the regular antibiotics had already become so ineffective in such a short period of time. I was diligent in giving him all of his medications, never shorting the dosages.
Will we end up like the aliens in “War of the Worlds,” who were killed not by the humans they hunted, but by the smallest residents of the planet they wanted to dominate. What will be ironic is that we will have created our own demise.

So the prospect of untreatable TB is a disturbing one. WHO notes that in the Americas, only 2.1 persons per 100,000 die of TB. With a totally drug-resistant strain, that rate could easily exceed Africa’s current rate of 50 deaths per 100,000.

I have hopes that our collective intellect will find a way of protecting humanity from succumbing to ourselves.


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  1. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    When I was a kid, I was always outside, breathing all kinds of pollens, eating dirt and grass, getting all kinds of stuff under my fingernails and generally being exposed to all Mother Nature had to offer. In school, we were exposed to every disease that a group of children could come up with. This exposure allowed us to develop antigens and antibodies and resistance to a lot of problems. Nowdays, kids stay indoors in air conditioned, filtered environments and are not exposed to the elements the way we were, so my unscientific analysis is that they do not have the opportunity to develop these same antibodies and antigens. Thus, when exposed, they get sick and must rely on artificial medications to ward off infection and disease. Couple that with illegal immigration and some of those people crossing over with diseases they don’t even have names for yet, and once again, it looks like we have doomed ourselves to second class citizenship, especially now that the government is taking over health care and won’t be treating anyone.

  2. El Gordo Avatar

    When I was a kid, I was always outside, breathing all kinds of pollens, eating dirt and grass, getting all kinds of stuff under my fingernails and generally being exposed to all Mother Nature had to offer. In school, we were exposed to every disease that a group of children could come up with. This exposure allowed us to develop antigens and antibodies and resistance to a lot of problems. Nowdays, kids stay indoors in air conditioned, filtered environments and are not exposed to the elements the way we were, so my unscientific analysis is that they do not have the opportunity to develop these same antibodies and antigens. Thus, when exposed, they get sick and must rely on artificial medications to ward off infection and disease. Couple that with illegal immigration and some of those people crossing over with diseases they don’t even have names for yet, and once again, it looks like we have doomed ourselves to second class citizenship, especially now that the government is taking over health care and won’t be treating anyone.

  3. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    Not that I am proud of it, but our son survived day care. Seemed like he always had a cold or something. I don’t think he has had so much as a sniffle since. His girl friend is a med student in Dallas. She talks about illegals who speak pre Spanish invasion languages. The docs can’t talk to them and they have illnesses unknown. Just more diversity I reckon.

  4. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    Not that I am proud of it, but our son survived day care. Seemed like he always had a cold or something. I don’t think he has had so much as a sniffle since. His girl friend is a med student in Dallas. She talks about illegals who speak pre Spanish invasion languages. The docs can’t talk to them and they have illnesses unknown. Just more diversity I reckon.

  5. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Are you in the Elite bubble? Do you connect with the cultural norm?

    Take the test and find out.

    My score?

    Result:

    On a scale from 0 to 20 points, where 20 signifies full engagement with mainstream American culture and 0 signifies deep cultural isolation within the new upper class bubble, you scored between 13 and 16.

    In other words, you don’t even have a bubble.

  6. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Are you in the Elite bubble? Do you connect with the cultural norm?
    Take the test and find out.
    My score?

    Result:
    On a scale from 0 to 20 points, where 20 signifies full engagement with mainstream American culture and 0 signifies deep cultural isolation within the new upper class bubble, you scored between 13 and 16.
    In other words, you don’t even have a bubble.

  7. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Heh.

    Mitt Romney’s campaign is attacking Newt Gingrich as an “influence peddler.” But it turns out that some of Romney’s closest advisers (or the firms they lobbied for) were paid hundreds of thousands — maybe millions — of dollars on behalf of failed mortgage giant Freddie Mac.

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/25/top-romney-advisers-lobbied-for-freddie/#ixzz1kUKNENR8

  8. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Heh.

    Mitt Romney’s campaign is attacking Newt Gingrich as an “influence peddler.” But it turns out that some of Romney’s closest advisers (or the firms they lobbied for) were paid hundreds of thousands — maybe millions — of dollars on behalf of failed mortgage giant Freddie Mac.

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/25/top-romney-advisers-lobbied-for-freddie/#ixzz1kUKNENR8

  9. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    you scored between 9 and 12.

    In other words, even if you’re part of the new upper class, you’ve had a lot of exposure to the rest of America.

    Woo hoo! I’m part of a new upper class! Guess it’s because I have worked hard all my life, including while going to school. That must be when I got exposed to “the rest of America”. Balderdash — aside from clueless yuppies and maybe the Kennedy clan, I don’t see these gradations in Americans. I just see worker bees and layabouts.

  10. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    you scored between 9 and 12.
    In other words, even if you’re part of the new upper class, you’ve had a lot of exposure to the rest of America.

    Woo hoo! I’m part of a new upper class! Guess it’s because I have worked hard all my life, including while going to school. That must be when I got exposed to “the rest of America”. Balderdash — aside from clueless yuppies and maybe the Kennedy clan, I don’t see these gradations in Americans. I just see worker bees and layabouts.

  11. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Shannon, Matt Patrick is an imported talk host who took Berry’s 2-5 slot on 950. He may also be on at other times on either 740 or 950. I am really missing Berry’s afternoon show after I finally got hooked on it.

  12. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Shannon, Matt Patrick is an imported talk host who took Berry’s 2-5 slot on 950. He may also be on at other times on either 740 or 950. I am really missing Berry’s afternoon show after I finally got hooked on it.

  13. Tedtam Avatar

    Mharper – we scored the same.

    Some of the questions were questionable. The beer question, for example. What if you don’t drink? It assumes that every adult imbibes in beer. Or the NASCAR question – can’t you be a butt-scratchin’, stubble bearded redneck who just doesn’t care to watch cars go around in big circles for hours?

    Well, let me retract that last question.

  14. Tedtam Avatar

    Mharper – we scored the same.
    Some of the questions were questionable. The beer question, for example. What if you don’t drink? It assumes that every adult imbibes in beer. Or the NASCAR question – can’t you be a butt-scratchin’, stubble bearded redneck who just doesn’t care to watch cars go around in big circles for hours?
    Well, let me retract that last question.

  15. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Well mh and Te, I’m in the same group.

  16. El Gordo Avatar

    Well mh and Te, I’m in the same group.

  17. Tedtam Avatar

    Good for the Arizona governor. I’d be waggin’ a finger at him, too. He needs a good, prolonged, in-your-face finger waggin’ from a lot of people. At one time. On election day.

    Though I wouldn’t mind doing it sooner, either.

  18. Tedtam Avatar

    Good for the Arizona governor. I’d be waggin’ a finger at him, too. He needs a good, prolonged, in-your-face finger waggin’ from a lot of people. At one time. On election day.
    Though I wouldn’t mind doing it sooner, either.

  19. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    “between 9 and 12” here

    how the heck would I know the educational status of 50 neighbors anyways?

    and Shiner Bock is sold (even in Texas dammit) as “imported beer”

    several other very UNCLEAR questions IMHO – the survey seems to be a blatant waste of bandwidth……………..

  20. Katfish Avatar

    “between 9 and 12” here
    how the heck would I know the educational status of 50 neighbors anyways?
    and Shiner Bock is sold (even in Texas dammit) as “imported beer”
    several other very UNCLEAR questions IMHO – the survey seems to be a blatant waste of bandwidth……………..

  21. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    I am in the no bubble group. Have you or your spouse ever owned a pick-up? They make it sound like there is something strange about it. This survey is obviously for the urban/urbane crowd. I don’t even have 50 neighbors.

  22. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    I am in the no bubble group. Have you or your spouse ever owned a pick-up? They make it sound like there is something strange about it. This survey is obviously for the urban/urbane crowd. I don’t even have 50 neighbors.

  23. timdenchanter Avatar
    timdenchanter

    I scored a 17 on the test because I did not recognize the guy who makes left turns for a living.

  24. timdenchanter Avatar
    timdenchanter

    I scored a 17 on the test because I did not recognize the guy who makes left turns for a living.

  25. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #13 – gotta be more to it than that – I got no clue who the pictured Nascar drvr is……………….

  26. Katfish Avatar

    #13 – gotta be more to it than that – I got no clue who the pictured Nascar drvr is……………….

  27. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    7 mharper42 says:
    January 26, 2012 at 8:48 am
    Shannon, Matt Patrick is an imported talk host who took Berry’s 2-5 slot on 950. He may also be on at other times on either 740 or 950. I am really missing Berry’s afternoon show after I finally got hooked on it.

    Patrick is on 940 during morning drive until 8:00 when Berry takes over.

    Berry is still on afternoon drive after 5:00.

  28. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    7 mharper42 says:
    January 26, 2012 at 8:48 am
    Shannon, Matt Patrick is an imported talk host who took Berry’s 2-5 slot on 950. He may also be on at other times on either 740 or 950. I am really missing Berry’s afternoon show after I finally got hooked on it.

    Patrick is on 940 during morning drive until 8:00 when Berry takes over.
    Berry is still on afternoon drive after 5:00.

  29. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    5 Shannon says:
    January 26, 2012 at 8:08 am
    Heh.

    Mitt Romney’s campaign is attacking Newt Gingrich as an “influence peddler.” But it turns out that some of Romney’s closest advisers (or the firms they lobbied for) were paid hundreds of thousands — maybe millions — of dollars on behalf of failed mortgage giant Freddie Mac.

    Romney is still playing the “Newt sucks as much as I do” game. If I have to choose between two equally flawed candidates, I’ll choose the one that didn’t sign a ban on semi-automatic weapons and Socialized Medicine.

  30. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    5 Shannon says:
    January 26, 2012 at 8:08 am
    Heh.

    Mitt Romney’s campaign is attacking Newt Gingrich as an “influence peddler.” But it turns out that some of Romney’s closest advisers (or the firms they lobbied for) were paid hundreds of thousands — maybe millions — of dollars on behalf of failed mortgage giant Freddie Mac.

    Romney is still playing the “Newt sucks as much as I do” game. If I have to choose between two equally flawed candidates, I’ll choose the one that didn’t sign a ban on semi-automatic weapons and Socialized Medicine.

  31. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    940?????????

    I thought Berry was only on in the afternoons (prior to the recent changes).

  32. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    940?????????
    I thought Berry was only on in the afternoons (prior to the recent changes).

  33. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    940?????????

    I believe that should be 740. Barry is on at 8 and 5.

  34. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    940?????????

    I believe that should be 740. Barry is on at 8 and 5.

  35. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I’m in the Newt camp — but with longstanding misgivings about him.

    When I hear that the entire DNC complex including the unions are spending big bucks on ads against Romney in Florida, I begin to waiver.

  36. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I’m in the Newt camp — but with longstanding misgivings about him.
    When I hear that the entire DNC complex including the unions are spending big bucks on ads against Romney in Florida, I begin to waiver.

  37. Tedtam Avatar

    I just got this email from my sister. Her husband has been undergoing some radiation treatments to try to stem the internal bleeding he is suffering from. She will have no insurance to cover her neural issues when he is gone, and that has been a source of great stress for her:

    R* gets to ring his bell tomorrow…radiation will be over. I did not think he was going to make it yesterday. He was terrible sick and did not want to go. We slept in between appointments yesterday and missed the exciting weather.

    I have to tell you about what has happened. I thought I might have sent an email to you (only sent to those who are spiritual enough to get it) about our blessings with MD Anderson taking on financial assistance with his COBRA. Then, I had to see my neuro Tuesday in between R*’s radiation. My doctor is an angel. Not only did he tell me he would continue to treat me for free, he also came out into the waiting room to shake R*’s hand. R* was so honored and really liked that. I think it might have helped R* feel OK about me being taken care of when he is gone.

    We all have so much power to make such a difference. I am learning so much. This has all been terribly hard and heartbreaking but at the same time, such a blessing of love from many!

    There are some really nice people out there. Really nice.

  38. Tedtam Avatar

    I just got this email from my sister. Her husband has been undergoing some radiation treatments to try to stem the internal bleeding he is suffering from. She will have no insurance to cover her neural issues when he is gone, and that has been a source of great stress for her:

    R* gets to ring his bell tomorrow…radiation will be over. I did not think he was going to make it yesterday. He was terrible sick and did not want to go. We slept in between appointments yesterday and missed the exciting weather.
    I have to tell you about what has happened. I thought I might have sent an email to you (only sent to those who are spiritual enough to get it) about our blessings with MD Anderson taking on financial assistance with his COBRA. Then, I had to see my neuro Tuesday in between R*’s radiation. My doctor is an angel. Not only did he tell me he would continue to treat me for free, he also came out into the waiting room to shake R*’s hand. R* was so honored and really liked that. I think it might have helped R* feel OK about me being taken care of when he is gone.
    We all have so much power to make such a difference. I am learning so much. This has all been terribly hard and heartbreaking but at the same time, such a blessing of love from many!

    There are some really nice people out there. Really nice.

  39. Katfish Avatar

       
    On a scale from 0 to 20 points, where 20 signifies full engagement with mainstream American culture and 0 signifies deep cultural isolation within the new upper class bubble, you scored at least 17.

    In other words, you’re so embedded in mainstream America that you need to visit the bubble once in a while.

    Where’s this bubble you people are so close to?

  40. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

       
    On a scale from 0 to 20 points, where 20 signifies full engagement with mainstream American culture and 0 signifies deep cultural isolation within the new upper class bubble, you scored at least 17.
    In other words, you’re so embedded in mainstream America that you need to visit the bubble once in a while.

    Where’s this bubble you people are so close to?

  41. Tedtam Avatar

    #21 WB

    Where’s this bubble you people are so close to?

    The minds of the deranged are full of strange things.

  42. Tedtam Avatar

    #21 WB

    Where’s this bubble you people are so close to?

    The minds of the deranged are full of strange things.

  43. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    13 timdenchanter says:
    January 26, 2012 at 9:47 am
    I scored a 17 on the test because I did not recognize the guy who makes left turns for a living.

    Same here, the beer question, and the hunting question. Never liked left turn contests and the last beer I had was when Reagan was Prez.

    Had they asked the hunting question this way:

    “Have you handled, cleaned, or fired a firearm in the past year.” then I’d likley have scored higher.

    I’ve done lots of shooting, but no hunting, since moving to TX in 1975.

  44. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    13 timdenchanter says:
    January 26, 2012 at 9:47 am
    I scored a 17 on the test because I did not recognize the guy who makes left turns for a living.

    Same here, the beer question, and the hunting question. Never liked left turn contests and the last beer I had was when Reagan was Prez.
    Had they asked the hunting question this way:
    “Have you handled, cleaned, or fired a firearm in the past year.” then I’d likley have scored higher.
    I’ve done lots of shooting, but no hunting, since moving to TX in 1975.

  45. Tedtam Avatar

    That test was obviously written by an elitist who thinks he knows what the knuckle-dragging masses are like.

  46. Tedtam Avatar

    That test was obviously written by an elitist who thinks he knows what the knuckle-dragging masses are like.

  47. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    When I hear that the entire DNC complex including the unions are spending big bucks on ads against Romney in Florida, I begin to waiver.

    The Pubbies ran a lot of ads against Hillary in the last primaries.

    You know, because someone as polarizing as Barack would be easy to beat.

  48. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    When I hear that the entire DNC complex including the unions are spending big bucks on ads against Romney in Florida, I begin to waiver.

    The Pubbies ran a lot of ads against Hillary in the last primaries.
    You know, because someone as polarizing as Barack would be easy to beat.

  49. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Does my enjoyment of wine &cheese offset my ability to recognize a photo off five-time NASCAR champion Jimmie Johnson?

  50. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Does my enjoyment of wine &cheese offset my ability to recognize a photo off five-time NASCAR champion Jimmie Johnson?

  51. Hamous Avatar

    I scored between 9 and 12. Questions definitely written by an elitist jack-a$$-wipe snob SOB. The writer of the quiz probably doesn’t know how to turn a screw or drive a nail.

  52. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    I scored between 9 and 12. Questions definitely written by an elitist jack-a$$-wipe snob SOB. The writer of the quiz probably doesn’t know how to turn a screw or drive a nail.

  53. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #19 Shannon

    When I hear that the entire DNC complex including the unions are spending big bucks on ads against Romney in Florida, I begin to waiver.

    Explain, please. From what I hear, the unions are knocking Romney hoping that will make Newt the nominee. All the Dems and half the Reps think Newt is unelectable. So are you saying you are starting to agree with that?

  54. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #19 Shannon

    When I hear that the entire DNC complex including the unions are spending big bucks on ads against Romney in Florida, I begin to waiver.

    Explain, please. From what I hear, the unions are knocking Romney hoping that will make Newt the nominee. All the Dems and half the Reps think Newt is unelectable. So are you saying you are starting to agree with that?

  55. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #20 TT
    What a wonderful doctor your sister has. Good luck to them both with their medical problems.

  56. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #20 TT
    What a wonderful doctor your sister has. Good luck to them both with their medical problems.

  57. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #27 – as long as it aint brie…………………

    🙂

  58. Katfish Avatar

    #27 – as long as it aint brie…………………
    🙂

  59. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #21 Pyro
    Sorry, mate, the bubble dwellers are sworn to secrecy. Cannot reveal the codes to any Blue-Ribbon-swilling, NASCAR-watching, pickup-driving, uniform-wearing, factory-floor-working plebes.

  60. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #21 Pyro
    Sorry, mate, the bubble dwellers are sworn to secrecy. Cannot reveal the codes to any Blue-Ribbon-swilling, NASCAR-watching, pickup-driving, uniform-wearing, factory-floor-working plebes.

  61. Tedtam Avatar

    True love.

    Reminds me of the story from earlier this year about another couple.

  62. Tedtam Avatar

    True love.
    Reminds me of the story from earlier this year about another couple.

  63. Tedtam Avatar

    #30 Mharper

    I just hope Obamacare doesn’t screw up his philanthropic efforts.

  64. Tedtam Avatar

    #30 Mharper
    I just hope Obamacare doesn’t screw up his philanthropic efforts.

  65. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    29 harp
    I’m not sure what I believe about all these maneuverings.

    Here’s the pertinent link, by the way.

  66. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    29 harp
    I’m not sure what I believe about all these maneuverings.
    Here’s the pertinent link, by the way.

  67. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Mmmmm, brie.
    Think I’ll pick up some on the way home.

  68. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Mmmmm, brie.
    Think I’ll pick up some on the way home.

  69. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    I have no bubble, between 13 and 16. Geesh, go to one gay parade and have one glass of wine…..

  70. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    I have no bubble, between 13 and 16. Geesh, go to one gay parade and have one glass of wine…..

  71. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    HEY JUGEARS, you wissin jerk, how’s that Egyptian Democracy movement working? Not so well from what I can see……

  72. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Howdy y’all

    /BTW this was not posted with my new iPad

    Did I mention I now love with my iMac and iPad?

    LONG LIVE THE JOBS
    Resistance in futile, you will be assimilated.

    With all the insanity going on in politics I have settled on my choice for president:
    Newmittrick Sanromneytorum for President
    Mitt PaulGingron for VP.

    OOOPS gotta go now
    They’re coming to take me away Ah Ha Muhwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

  73. squawkbox Avatar

    Howdy y’all
    /BTW this was not posted with my new iPad
    Did I mention I now love with my iMac and iPad?
    LONG LIVE THE JOBS
    Resistance in futile, you will be assimilated.
    With all the insanity going on in politics I have settled on my choice for president:
    Newmittrick Sanromneytorum for President
    Mitt PaulGingron for VP.
    OOOPS gotta go now
    They’re coming to take me away Ah Ha Muhwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

  74. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #42 – OMG ROFLMAO

    (would be even more hilarious if not so spot the hell ON!)

  75. Katfish Avatar

    #42 – OMG ROFLMAO
    (would be even more hilarious if not so spot the hell ON!)

  76. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Drudge:
    ‘Fix-a-Flat’ butt injection suspect attacked with a syringe during talkshow taping…

    What a country.

  77. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Drudge:
    ‘Fix-a-Flat’ butt injection suspect attacked with a syringe during talkshow taping…
    What a country.

  78. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Was it Sarge’s 15-min video that kilt the blog this afternoon?
    /jest askin’

  79. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Was it Sarge’s 15-min video that kilt the blog this afternoon?
    /jest askin’

  80. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Good evening Hamsters. Started out with a brisk 51 this morning and a welcome relief from the muglies of yesterday. Final total in the rain gauge was 1.8″, for which we thank you, Lord.
    Not much to clean up this time around, mostly some dirt on the sidewalk and some leaves, acorn parts, and twigs.

    #20 TT, Yes there are some really lovely and caring folks left in this jaded world, and fortunately some of them are looking after your brother-in-law and your sister. Blessings upon them all.

  81. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Good evening Hamsters. Started out with a brisk 51 this morning and a welcome relief from the muglies of yesterday. Final total in the rain gauge was 1.8″, for which we thank you, Lord.
    Not much to clean up this time around, mostly some dirt on the sidewalk and some leaves, acorn parts, and twigs.
    #20 TT, Yes there are some really lovely and caring folks left in this jaded world, and fortunately some of them are looking after your brother-in-law and your sister. Blessings upon them all.

  82. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #42 Shannon, Can’t decide if the liberal/progressive litany delivered was for real or a clever spoof of one. Either way, it demonstrates the vacuous ramblings of someone inhabiting a muddled parallel universe Earth where reason and logic are unknown entities. Yikes.

  83. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #42 Shannon, Can’t decide if the liberal/progressive litany delivered was for real or a clever spoof of one. Either way, it demonstrates the vacuous ramblings of someone inhabiting a muddled parallel universe Earth where reason and logic are unknown entities. Yikes.

  84. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Just FYI
    The combination of some antihistamines and antidepressants are known to cause acute glaucoma in some patients. These drugs by themselves have been known to cause it also.
    Blindness is a real possibilty in these instances.

    Recent, very scary experiences of some of our friends and neighbors prompt me to bring this to your attention.

    Be bery careful with your use of over-the-counter or prescription sinus and allergy medications.

  85. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Just FYI
    The combination of some antihistamines and antidepressants are known to cause acute glaucoma in some patients. These drugs by themselves have been known to cause it also.
    Blindness is a real possibilty in these instances.
    Recent, very scary experiences of some of our friends and neighbors prompt me to bring this to your attention.
    Be bery careful with your use of over-the-counter or prescription sinus and allergy medications.

  86. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Yea for AZ Governor Jan Brewer and her refusal to be cowed by Baracky yesterday. And boo to him for being such a boor. But he’s practiced at that.

  87. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Yea for AZ Governor Jan Brewer and her refusal to be cowed by Baracky yesterday. And boo to him for being such a boor. But he’s practiced at that.

  88. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Acute glaucoma is an ophthalmic emergency.

    Best advice is to consult with your pharmacist on drug interactions between prescription and over the counter meds. Of whatever kinds. OTC does not mean harmless.

  89. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Acute glaucoma is an ophthalmic emergency.
    Best advice is to consult with your pharmacist on drug interactions between prescription and over the counter meds. Of whatever kinds. OTC does not mean harmless.

  90. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Just tuned intothe debatewhileShannon batheswith his pet turtle Max.

    Santorum just smacked it out otf the ball park: Gingrich and Romney should leave each other’s means of making money alone and focus on the issues.

  91. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Just tuned intothe debatewhileShannon batheswith his pet turtle Max.
    Santorum just smacked it out otf the ball park: Gingrich and Romney should leave each other’s means of making money alone and focus on the issues.

  92. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I hate it when streaming video lags.

  93. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I hate it when streaming video lags.

  94. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Romney: one’s successes should not be seen as a detriment but an asset to help America.

    Nice!

  95. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Romney: one’s successes should not be seen as a detriment but an asset to help America.
    Nice!

  96. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Adee #49;

    Yea for AZ Governor Jan Brewer and her refusal to be cowed by Baracky yesterday. And boo to him for being such a boor.

    I think it was Sam Malone who pointed out that he didn’t even bow to her.

    LOL!

  97. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Adee #49;

    Yea for AZ Governor Jan Brewer and her refusal to be cowed by Baracky yesterday. And boo to him for being such a boor.

    I think it was Sam Malone who pointed out that he didn’t even bow to her.
    LOL!

  98. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Did I mention I now love with my iMac and iPad?

    Since Santa finally recognized I am a good boy, I am a proud 1 percenter in possesion of an iPad. Very nice. I did discover today that I do need more than the cheap 15 gazillion mb per month version of the data plan. Maybe don’t refresh as much?

  99. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Did I mention I now love with my iMac and iPad?

    Since Santa finally recognized I am a good boy, I am a proud 1 percenter in possesion of an iPad. Very nice. I did discover today that I do need more than the cheap 15 gazillion mb per month version of the data plan. Maybe don’t refresh as much?

  100. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Shannon #48;

    Great info to know there, sir. Mrs. Darren takes antidepressents and can’t take certain antihistamines or she’ll be out for hours even after a full night’s sleep.

  101. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Shannon #48;
    Great info to know there, sir. Mrs. Darren takes antidepressents and can’t take certain antihistamines or she’ll be out for hours even after a full night’s sleep.

  102. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Baby Girl just got home from her friend’s house and is acting awefully cute trying to get the chihuahua’s attention.

    Youngest Son’s streaming Backyardagains (which is why my debate is lagging) on the TV.

    Oldest Son’s at his friend’s house.

    Oldest Daughter’s babysitting.

    Mrs. Darren’s crafting.

    Darren’s blogging.

    We are a happy family.

    🙂

    Oh ,and our TV just got updated apps including You Tube and Skype. Yippy!!!

  103. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Baby Girl just got home from her friend’s house and is acting awefully cute trying to get the chihuahua’s attention.
    Youngest Son’s streaming Backyardagains (which is why my debate is lagging) on the TV.
    Oldest Son’s at his friend’s house.
    Oldest Daughter’s babysitting.
    Mrs. Darren’s crafting.
    Darren’s blogging.
    We are a happy family.
    🙂
    Oh ,and our TV just got updated apps including You Tube and Skype. Yippy!!!

  104. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #57 Good night, John Boy.
    🙂

  105. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #57 Good night, John Boy.
    🙂

  106. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Ponders of the day listening to talk radio:

    Republicans just don’t play the media game too well. Why didn’t someone ask why Warren Buffett only pays his secretary $20,000 a year, broadening the income gap in America? I know it’s not true, but the story then woulda become What is her salary anyway?, then it would come out she makes 250g, then we could ask why is Obama wanting to raise taxes on a lowly secretary?

    And then, why didn’t Newt suggest we could make the moon the 58th state? Or, if he wanted to have a grandiose I Have a Dream plan (going to the moon), couldn’t the Big Dream be to pay off this huge debt?

  107. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Ponders of the day listening to talk radio:
    Republicans just don’t play the media game too well. Why didn’t someone ask why Warren Buffett only pays his secretary $20,000 a year, broadening the income gap in America? I know it’s not true, but the story then woulda become What is her salary anyway?, then it would come out she makes 250g, then we could ask why is Obama wanting to raise taxes on a lowly secretary?
    And then, why didn’t Newt suggest we could make the moon the 58th state? Or, if he wanted to have a grandiose I Have a Dream plan (going to the moon), couldn’t the Big Dream be to pay off this huge debt?

  108. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Wahoo! Just checked my email and AT&T is telling me my iPad’s 15 gazillion mb/month plan updates tomorrow (naughty iPad didn’t tell me that part), glad I went without and didn’t buy more today!

  109. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Wahoo! Just checked my email and AT&T is telling me my iPad’s 15 gazillion mb/month plan updates tomorrow (naughty iPad didn’t tell me that part), glad I went without and didn’t buy more today!

  110. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Romney and Gingrich both gave great answers regarding Isreal and the Palestinian situation. Stand with Isreal. Period.

  111. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Romney and Gingrich both gave great answers regarding Isreal and the Palestinian situation. Stand with Isreal. Period.

  112. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    42 Shannon says:

    January 26, 2012 at 5:51 pm

    I received this from Texpat, exposing shamaal’s true identity.

    Dang.

    I posted that a week ago.

  113. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    42 Shannon says:
    January 26, 2012 at 5:51 pm
    I received this from Texpat, exposing shamaal’s true identity.

    Dang.
    I posted that a week ago.

  114. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    GJT;

    In between the lag I gathered that Romney said nothing of negative of Newt and his relation with Reagan. Romney twice deferred to Newt to speak for himself on that matter.I thought that was very smart and I think Romney took your advice the other night.

    Good job, Tim. 🙂

  115. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    GJT;
    In between the lag I gathered that Romney said nothing of negative of Newt and his relation with Reagan. Romney twice deferred to Newt to speak for himself on that matter.I thought that was very smart and I think Romney took your advice the other night.
    Good job, Tim. 🙂

  116. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Squawk;

    LONG LIVE THE JOBS

    A little late for that but his briliance lives on, that’s for sure.

    Congrats on your IPad. Eventually I’ll get one myself. Most likely an Android knock off.

    With all the insanity going on in politics I have settled on my choice for president:
    Newmittrick Sanromneytorum for President
    Mitt PaulGingron for VP.

    That means you’ll vote for all of them. Man, talk about flip flopping.

    😉

  117. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Squawk;

    LONG LIVE THE JOBS

    A little late for that but his briliance lives on, that’s for sure.
    Congrats on your IPad. Eventually I’ll get one myself. Most likely an Android knock off.

    With all the insanity going on in politics I have settled on my choice for president:
    Newmittrick Sanromneytorum for President
    Mitt PaulGingron for VP.

    That means you’ll vote for all of them. Man, talk about flip flopping.
    😉

  118. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Thanks Darren, just couldn’t get myself up to watch tonight. Besides, reports go in in the morning…

  119. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Thanks Darren, just couldn’t get myself up to watch tonight. Besides, reports go in in the morning…

  120. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Republicans just don’t play the media game too well. Why didn’t someone ask why Warren Buffett only pays his secretary $20,000 a year, broadening the income gap in America? I know it’s not true, but the story then woulda become What is her salary anyway?, then it would come out she makes 250g, then we could ask why is Obama wanting to raise taxes on a lowly secretary?

    The woman is an Executive Secretary to a billionaire. If she’s not making north of $200K, she could quit her job and someone else would pay her that much.

  121. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Republicans just don’t play the media game too well. Why didn’t someone ask why Warren Buffett only pays his secretary $20,000 a year, broadening the income gap in America? I know it’s not true, but the story then woulda become What is her salary anyway?, then it would come out she makes 250g, then we could ask why is Obama wanting to raise taxes on a lowly secretary?

    The woman is an Executive Secretary to a billionaire. If she’s not making north of $200K, she could quit her job and someone else would pay her that much.

  122. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #40 – I hate to disagree with your assessment of the situation in Egypt, but it looks to me like it’s playing out exactly the way JE wants it to. Now if he can just get that bottleneck in the Straits stopped up and further slow the flow of oil, maybe he can get the price of gas high enough to sell a couple of those electric cars.

    #48 – I also heard that putting your hands on something delicate can also cause blindness or acne or something like that.

  123. El Gordo Avatar

    #40 – I hate to disagree with your assessment of the situation in Egypt, but it looks to me like it’s playing out exactly the way JE wants it to. Now if he can just get that bottleneck in the Straits stopped up and further slow the flow of oil, maybe he can get the price of gas high enough to sell a couple of those electric cars.
    #48 – I also heard that putting your hands on something delicate can also cause blindness or acne or something like that.

  124. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Old truckers don’t flip-flop anymore, they kinda roll.

  125. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Old truckers don’t flip-flop anymore, they kinda roll.

  126. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

    One of Mitt Romney’s most famous quotes comes from his 1994 race for Senate in Massachusetts. Whie debating Ted Kennedy, he openly stated that he did not want to return to “Reagan-Bush,” adding that he was an independent during that time. It’s also come out that he voted in the 1992 Democratic primary.

    Now, Pundit Press has found that the former Massachusetts Governor not only voted in the Democratic primary, but also gave money to multiple candidates. By searching for Romney, it turns out that his donations helped three Democrats.

    More at the link. He actually gave money to Dick Swett.

    Double hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

    You Romney supporters do realize that you’re going to have to defend him with words like “Cayman Island Investmants” and “million dollar Swiss Bank Accounts” swimming in the minds of low information voters, don’t you?

  127. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

    One of Mitt Romney’s most famous quotes comes from his 1994 race for Senate in Massachusetts. Whie debating Ted Kennedy, he openly stated that he did not want to return to “Reagan-Bush,” adding that he was an independent during that time. It’s also come out that he voted in the 1992 Democratic primary.
    Now, Pundit Press has found that the former Massachusetts Governor not only voted in the Democratic primary, but also gave money to multiple candidates. By searching for Romney, it turns out that his donations helped three Democrats.

    More at the link. He actually gave money to Dick Swett.
    Double hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
    You Romney supporters do realize that you’re going to have to defend him with words like “Cayman Island Investmants” and “million dollar Swiss Bank Accounts” swimming in the minds of low information voters, don’t you?

  128. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    GJT;

    just couldn’t get myself up to watch tonight

    No worries, ther’ll be more.

  129. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    GJT;

    just couldn’t get myself up to watch tonight

    No worries, ther’ll be more.

  130. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    62 Sarge
    Uh……..Oops?

  131. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    62 Sarge
    Uh……..Oops?

  132. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    You Romney supporters do realize that you’re going to have to defend him with words like “Cayman Island Investmants” and “million dollar Swiss Bank Accounts” swimming in the minds of low information voters, don’t you?

    And those low information voters will definitely like Newt standing up to that predator capitalist investor, Mitt Romney. I tell you, stupid people will be the end of us all.

  133. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    You Romney supporters do realize that you’re going to have to defend him with words like “Cayman Island Investmants” and “million dollar Swiss Bank Accounts” swimming in the minds of low information voters, don’t you?

    And those low information voters will definitely like Newt standing up to that predator capitalist investor, Mitt Romney. I tell you, stupid people will be the end of us all.

  134. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    GJT;

    Old truckers don’t flip-flop anymore, they kinda roll.

    Good point. Squawk definitely rolls with it all.

  135. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    GJT;

    Old truckers don’t flip-flop anymore, they kinda roll.

    Good point. Squawk definitely rolls with it all.

  136. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    In a lag-free segment of tonight’s debate I did hear Romney respondto Newt who said he and his team discovered “something shocking”, that Romney had investments in Freddie and Fanny. Romney pointed out that it was a third party investor and his investments were from bonds (I believe) and asked if Newt checked his own investments, which also includes Freddie and Fanny.

    Talk about looking stupid (even in Newt’s expression).

    Still, overall, I liked what I could hear from tonight’s debates.

  137. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    In a lag-free segment of tonight’s debate I did hear Romney respondto Newt who said he and his team discovered “something shocking”, that Romney had investments in Freddie and Fanny. Romney pointed out that it was a third party investor and his investments were from bonds (I believe) and asked if Newt checked his own investments, which also includes Freddie and Fanny.
    Talk about looking stupid (even in Newt’s expression).
    Still, overall, I liked what I could hear from tonight’s debates.

  138. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Sarge #73;

    Man, that’s sad. I really liked the Epstein character.

  139. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Sarge #73;
    Man, that’s sad. I really liked the Epstein character.

  140. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I tell you, stupid people will be the end of us all.

    Profound.

  141. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I tell you, stupid people will be the end of us all.

    Profound.

  142. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    72 Darren says:

    January 26, 2012 at 9:38 pm

    You Romney supporters do realize that you’re going to have to defend him with words like “Cayman Island Investmants” and “million dollar Swiss Bank Accounts” swimming in the minds of low information voters, don’t you?

    And those low information voters will definitely like Newt standing up to that predator capitalist investor, Mitt Romney. I tell you, stupid people will be the end of us all.

    Well;

    I suppose you could try to find a way to keep low information voters from voting next November in order to tailor the electorate into one that will accomodate your chosen candidate.

    But most folks here wouldn’t want to live in a country like that.

    At some point, folks are going to have to come to the realization that it really isn’t easy to change the first impression that the phrase “unreported multi-million dollar Swiss bank accounts” will put into the minds of voters.

  143. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    72 Darren says:
    January 26, 2012 at 9:38 pm

    You Romney supporters do realize that you’re going to have to defend him with words like “Cayman Island Investmants” and “million dollar Swiss Bank Accounts” swimming in the minds of low information voters, don’t you?

    And those low information voters will definitely like Newt standing up to that predator capitalist investor, Mitt Romney. I tell you, stupid people will be the end of us all.

    Well;
    I suppose you could try to find a way to keep low information voters from voting next November in order to tailor the electorate into one that will accomodate your chosen candidate.
    But most folks here wouldn’t want to live in a country like that.
    At some point, folks are going to have to come to the realization that it really isn’t easy to change the first impression that the phrase “unreported multi-million dollar Swiss bank accounts” will put into the minds of voters.

  144. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Seriously, Darrren.’

    Mentioning “Newt Gingrich” isn’t going to change that impression at all.

  145. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Seriously, Darrren.’
    Mentioning “Newt Gingrich” isn’t going to change that impression at all.

  146. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I can hear the ads now:

    “Why does a man who wants to be President keep millions of dollars in a Swiss bank account? Is it because the ones he had in the Cayman Islands were too full?”

  147. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I can hear the ads now:
    “Why does a man who wants to be President keep millions of dollars in a Swiss bank account? Is it because the ones he had in the Cayman Islands were too full?”

  148. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Profound.

    Thanks. I stayed awake a whole one second thinking up that phrase.

  149. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Profound.

    Thanks. I stayed awake a whole one second thinking up that phrase.

  150. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    78 Shannon says:

    January 26, 2012 at 9:53 pm

    I tell you, stupid people will be the end of us all.

    Profound.

    A little cliche.

    And “low information voters” are not stupid people. They are just the overwhelming majority of voters who aren’t as plugged in to politics as we are.

  151. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    78 Shannon says:
    January 26, 2012 at 9:53 pm

    I tell you, stupid people will be the end of us all.

    Profound.

    A little cliche.
    And “low information voters” are not stupid people. They are just the overwhelming majority of voters who aren’t as plugged in to politics as we are.

  152. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #79 Sarge

    it really isn’t easy to change the first impression that the phrase “unreported multi-million dollar Swiss bank accounts” will put into the minds of voters.

    How about by pointing out that the account earned a whopping $1700 in 2010?? Big whoop. You can’t make any money on bank account interest these days.

    #81

    Why does a man who wants to be President keep millions of dollars in a Swiss bank account?

    Gotta park it somewhere, and a Swiss bank account is not illegal.

  153. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #79 Sarge

    it really isn’t easy to change the first impression that the phrase “unreported multi-million dollar Swiss bank accounts” will put into the minds of voters.

    How about by pointing out that the account earned a whopping $1700 in 2010?? Big whoop. You can’t make any money on bank account interest these days.
    #81

    Why does a man who wants to be President keep millions of dollars in a Swiss bank account?

    Gotta park it somewhere, and a Swiss bank account is not illegal.

  154. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I suppose you could try to find a way to keep low information voters from voting next November in order to tailor the electorate into one that will accomodate your chosen candidate.

    Neh. That’s right-wing social engineering. We cannot possibly uphold that.

    At some point, folks are going to have to come to the realization that it really isn’t easy to change the first impression that the phrase “unreported multi-million dollar Swiss bank accounts” will put into the minds of voters.

    Same with “When Romney came to town…” That’s creepier than butterflies.

    Mentioning “Newt Gingrich” isn’t going to change that impression at all.

    That was meant at you. Since we obviously canot meet the lofty challenge of defending Romney’s Swiss account or his investment inthe cayman islands than we have to supprot Newt for president. I mean, we just have to. 😯

    “Why does a man who wants to be President keep millions of dollars in a Swiss bank account? Is it because the ones he had in the Cayman Islands were too full?”

    I tell you, that’ll be the end of Romney. He has money in a Swiss bank account and has invested in the Caymen islands. If Romney simply said that he has been blessed to use his talents, knowhow, and passion to make money and as president he desires to allow all americans to make money according to their passion, talents, and knowhow as opposed to “thuis president” (Obama) who wantsto take away from american who succeed then i think that’ll paint a contrast between him and obama and pursuade even some stupid voters to vote for him. They are that stupid afterall. 😉

  155. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I suppose you could try to find a way to keep low information voters from voting next November in order to tailor the electorate into one that will accomodate your chosen candidate.

    Neh. That’s right-wing social engineering. We cannot possibly uphold that.

    At some point, folks are going to have to come to the realization that it really isn’t easy to change the first impression that the phrase “unreported multi-million dollar Swiss bank accounts” will put into the minds of voters.

    Same with “When Romney came to town…” That’s creepier than butterflies.

    Mentioning “Newt Gingrich” isn’t going to change that impression at all.

    That was meant at you. Since we obviously canot meet the lofty challenge of defending Romney’s Swiss account or his investment inthe cayman islands than we have to supprot Newt for president. I mean, we just have to. 😯

    “Why does a man who wants to be President keep millions of dollars in a Swiss bank account? Is it because the ones he had in the Cayman Islands were too full?”

    I tell you, that’ll be the end of Romney. He has money in a Swiss bank account and has invested in the Caymen islands. If Romney simply said that he has been blessed to use his talents, knowhow, and passion to make money and as president he desires to allow all americans to make money according to their passion, talents, and knowhow as opposed to “thuis president” (Obama) who wantsto take away from american who succeed then i think that’ll paint a contrast between him and obama and pursuade even some stupid voters to vote for him. They are that stupid afterall. 😉

  156. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #77 Sarge
    Easy: BOHICA
    Although I am sure Robert M will beat that.

  157. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #77 Sarge
    Easy: BOHICA
    Although I am sure Robert M will beat that.

  158. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    And “low information voters” are not stupid people.

    Yes they are. If it’s all too easy to scare them from voting for Romney because Romney has money in a Swiss account and has invested in the Cayman Islands then that epitomizes stupidity. Instead they’ll vote for the president who’ll make the economy fair for them. That’s dumbing it down sufficiently for them.

  159. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    And “low information voters” are not stupid people.

    Yes they are. If it’s all too easy to scare them from voting for Romney because Romney has money in a Swiss account and has invested in the Cayman Islands then that epitomizes stupidity. Instead they’ll vote for the president who’ll make the economy fair for them. That’s dumbing it down sufficiently for them.

  160. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Congratulations appear to be in order for the Honorable Barney Frank. He going to make an honest man of his long time partner.

    Mazeltov!

  161. shamaal Avatar
    shamaal

    Congratulations appear to be in order for the Honorable Barney Frank. He going to make an honest man of his long time partner.
    Mazeltov!

  162. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Perhaps we need romney as president to make sure that stupid voters won’t be able to get their hands on assault rifles.

    YIKES!!!

  163. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Perhaps we need romney as president to make sure that stupid voters won’t be able to get their hands on assault rifles.
    YIKES!!!

  164. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    84 mharper42 says:

    January 26, 2012 at 10:21 pm

    #79 Sarge

    it really isn’t easy to change the first impression that the phrase “unreported multi-million dollar Swiss bank accounts” will put into the minds of voters.

    How about by pointing out that the account earned a whopping $1700 in 2010?? Big whoop. You can’t make any money on bank account interest these days.

    #81

    Why does a man who wants to be President keep millions of dollars in a Swiss bank account?

    Gotta park it somewhere, and a Swiss bank account is not illegal.

    I’m not disputing any of that. I’m just pointing out that the kind of person most folks will associate with “Cayman Island bank accounts” and “unreported Swiss Bank accounts” isn’t the kind they associate with “President of the United States.”

    First impressions are the lasting ones. You don’t want your candidate being discribed as “the one with three million dollars in a Swiss bank account”.

    The other thing here is this:

    After the beating Romney took over his tax returns, he misses this? How frikkin inept is that?

    How many more surprises like this are out there? At least we know everything with Newt. Has anyone been surprised by anything they’ve learned about him in the past year?

  165. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    84 mharper42 says:
    January 26, 2012 at 10:21 pm
    #79 Sarge
    it really isn’t easy to change the first impression that the phrase “unreported multi-million dollar Swiss bank accounts” will put into the minds of voters.
    How about by pointing out that the account earned a whopping $1700 in 2010?? Big whoop. You can’t make any money on bank account interest these days.
    #81
    Why does a man who wants to be President keep millions of dollars in a Swiss bank account?
    Gotta park it somewhere, and a Swiss bank account is not illegal.

    I’m not disputing any of that. I’m just pointing out that the kind of person most folks will associate with “Cayman Island bank accounts” and “unreported Swiss Bank accounts” isn’t the kind they associate with “President of the United States.”
    First impressions are the lasting ones. You don’t want your candidate being discribed as “the one with three million dollars in a Swiss bank account”.
    The other thing here is this:
    After the beating Romney took over his tax returns, he misses this? How frikkin inept is that?
    How many more surprises like this are out there? At least we know everything with Newt. Has anyone been surprised by anything they’ve learned about him in the past year?

  166. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    RANDOM THOUGHT from my cerebro maximus:

    If “sault” is from Latin meaning jumping or something like that than would “assault” mean “without jumping”? Or is the prefix “as” instead of “a” and thus have a different meaning?

  167. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    RANDOM THOUGHT from my cerebro maximus:
    If “sault” is from Latin meaning jumping or something like that than would “assault” mean “without jumping”? Or is the prefix “as” instead of “a” and thus have a different meaning?

  168. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Yes they are. If it’s all too easy to scare them from voting for Romney because Romney has money in a Swiss account and has invested in the Cayman Islands then that epitomizes stupidity. Instead they’ll vote for the president who’ll make the economy fair for them. That’s dumbing it down sufficiently for them.

    Oh well, then. If we know they are going to vote for Obama after hearing about this, how frikkin smart is the guy who says we should run Romney anyway?

  169. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Yes they are. If it’s all too easy to scare them from voting for Romney because Romney has money in a Swiss account and has invested in the Cayman Islands then that epitomizes stupidity. Instead they’ll vote for the president who’ll make the economy fair for them. That’s dumbing it down sufficiently for them.

    Oh well, then. If we know they are going to vote for Obama after hearing about this, how frikkin smart is the guy who says we should run Romney anyway?

  170. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    how frikkin smart is the guy who says we should run Romney anyway?

    Not terribly smart. 😉

  171. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    how frikkin smart is the guy who says we should run Romney anyway?

    Not terribly smart. 😉

  172. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Perhaps we need romney as president to make sure that stupid voters won’t be able to get their hands on assault rifles.

    You mean do the same thing for the whole country that he did for the Commonwealth of Massachusetts?

  173. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Perhaps we need romney as president to make sure that stupid voters won’t be able to get their hands on assault rifles.

    You mean do the same thing for the whole country that he did for the Commonwealth of Massachusetts?

  174. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    You should check with the media consultants before mentioning Romney in the same sentence that you’re making reference to taking assault rifles away from people.

    See how big a minefield defending romney is becoming?

  175. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    You should check with the media consultants before mentioning Romney in the same sentence that you’re making reference to taking assault rifles away from people.
    See how big a minefield defending romney is becoming?

  176. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #92
    I can answer that. The prefix root is “ad-” but when butted up to some other consonants, the 2nd “s” in the case of assault, the “d” melds with it. “Ad-” in Latin means to, towards, or with. Adhere, adjacent, advocate. Or apply, affirm, accept.

  177. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #92
    I can answer that. The prefix root is “ad-” but when butted up to some other consonants, the 2nd “s” in the case of assault, the “d” melds with it. “Ad-” in Latin means to, towards, or with. Adhere, adjacent, advocate. Or apply, affirm, accept.

  178. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I’m not disputing any of that.

    Then it’ll be your duty to point that out if andwhen that “assault” is unleashed. Even if you’re sitting your vote out, you should at least defend us against stupid voters.

    First impressions are the lasting ones. You don’t want your candidate being discribed as “the one with three million dollars in a Swiss bank account”.

    Why not? Isn’t that about how much Obama made off his book? You’re looking scared to present conservatism in its raw form. Stop it.

    After the beating Romney took over his tax returns, he misses this? How frikkin inept is that?

    Who cares? He probably had eight bills worth $1,700 stuffed in his left sock under his big toe the man’s that rich.

    At least we know everything with Newt.

    😆

    ..Oh, wait, you’re serious. 😕

    Has anyone been surprised by anything they’ve learned about him in the past year?

    I was just today. Wanna hear it?

  179. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I’m not disputing any of that.

    Then it’ll be your duty to point that out if andwhen that “assault” is unleashed. Even if you’re sitting your vote out, you should at least defend us against stupid voters.

    First impressions are the lasting ones. You don’t want your candidate being discribed as “the one with three million dollars in a Swiss bank account”.

    Why not? Isn’t that about how much Obama made off his book? You’re looking scared to present conservatism in its raw form. Stop it.

    After the beating Romney took over his tax returns, he misses this? How frikkin inept is that?

    Who cares? He probably had eight bills worth $1,700 stuffed in his left sock under his big toe the man’s that rich.

    At least we know everything with Newt.

    😆
    ..Oh, wait, you’re serious. 😕

    Has anyone been surprised by anything they’ve learned about him in the past year?

    I was just today. Wanna hear it?

  180. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    You mean do the same thing for the whole country that he did for the Commonwealth of Massachusetts?

    Sure, why not? Doesn’t a strong central leader make sense? You elite informed voters just don’t have any common sense.

  181. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    You mean do the same thing for the whole country that he did for the Commonwealth of Massachusetts?

    Sure, why not? Doesn’t a strong central leader make sense? You elite informed voters just don’t have any common sense.

  182. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Setup for someone… Where’s Tim?

  183. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Setup for someone… Where’s Tim?

  184. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Setup for someone.

    You took it, mharper. Hip hip, hurray!!!

  185. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Setup for someone.

    You took it, mharper. Hip hip, hurray!!!

  186. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I think you and I posted at the same time but mine was posted right before yours thus bumping you down one post. You’re good at heart though. 🙂

  187. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I think you and I posted at the same time but mine was posted right before yours thus bumping you down one post. You’re good at heart though. 🙂

  188. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Sarge #96;

    You should check with the media consultants before mentioning Romney in the same sentence that you’re making reference to taking assault rifles away from people.

    See how big a minefield defending romney is becoming?

    LOL, Sarge, I did that intentionally. It was sarcasm.

  189. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Sarge #96;

    You should check with the media consultants before mentioning Romney in the same sentence that you’re making reference to taking assault rifles away from people.
    See how big a minefield defending romney is becoming?

    LOL, Sarge, I did that intentionally. It was sarcasm.

  190. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Hey, I’m good at a lot of things! Good night everyone.

  191. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Hey, I’m good at a lot of things! Good night everyone.

  192. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    OK, OK, you’re pushing too hard. Here’s my surprise about Newt:

    Romney changed his mind on abortion — not when it was politically advantageous, but when it mattered. As governor of liberal, pro-choice Massachusetts, he vetoed an embryonic stem cell bill and “worked closely” with Massachusetts Citizens for Life. The president of MCL recently issued a statement saying that, “since being elected governor, Mitt Romney has had a consistent commitment to the culture of life.”

    He didn’t defend his changed position by saying he was a “historian,” or denounce people who raised the switch as “fundamentally” dishonest asking “absurd” questions, or go back and forth and back and forth. He just said he changed his mind.

    Meanwhile, Gingrich, who has run for office only in a small, majority Republican, undoubtedly pro-life congressional district, lobbied President Bush to support embryonic stem cell research.

    Looks like I and all the South Carolinian Evangelicals were ill informed. I certainly didn’t know this about Newt.

    Re-elect Obama: Vote Newt!

  193. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    OK, OK, you’re pushing too hard. Here’s my surprise about Newt:

    Romney changed his mind on abortion — not when it was politically advantageous, but when it mattered. As governor of liberal, pro-choice Massachusetts, he vetoed an embryonic stem cell bill and “worked closely” with Massachusetts Citizens for Life. The president of MCL recently issued a statement saying that, “since being elected governor, Mitt Romney has had a consistent commitment to the culture of life.”
    He didn’t defend his changed position by saying he was a “historian,” or denounce people who raised the switch as “fundamentally” dishonest asking “absurd” questions, or go back and forth and back and forth. He just said he changed his mind.
    Meanwhile, Gingrich, who has run for office only in a small, majority Republican, undoubtedly pro-life congressional district, lobbied President Bush to support embryonic stem cell research.

    Looks like I and all the South Carolinian Evangelicals were ill informed. I certainly didn’t know this about Newt.
    Re-elect Obama: Vote Newt!

  194. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    #97;

    I can answer that. The prefix root is “ad-” but when butted up to some other consonants, the 2nd “s” in the case of assault, the “d” melds with it. “Ad-” in Latin means to, towards, or with. Adhere, adjacent, advocate. Or apply, affirm, accept.

    Sweet. So “assault” would mean apply the jump. 🙂

  195. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    #97;

    I can answer that. The prefix root is “ad-” but when butted up to some other consonants, the 2nd “s” in the case of assault, the “d” melds with it. “Ad-” in Latin means to, towards, or with. Adhere, adjacent, advocate. Or apply, affirm, accept.

    Sweet. So “assault” would mean apply the jump. 🙂

  196. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Then it’ll be your duty to point that out if andwhen that “assault” is unleashed

    Excuse me, but as a citizen, I have no such a frikkin duty. If anybody has a duty here, its the frikkin candidate has to not be so frikkin stupid as to forget to mention that he hads 3 frikkin million dollars in a Swiss frikkin bank account.

  197. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Then it’ll be your duty to point that out if andwhen that “assault” is unleashed

    Excuse me, but as a citizen, I have no such a frikkin duty. If anybody has a duty here, its the frikkin candidate has to not be so frikkin stupid as to forget to mention that he hads 3 frikkin million dollars in a Swiss frikkin bank account.

  198. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Your “new information” about Newt is that he ran an ad critical of Romney that bent the truth?

    You haven’t been around this whole political thing much have you?

    Tell me again how that’s going to work against Newt next November.

  199. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Your “new information” about Newt is that he ran an ad critical of Romney that bent the truth?
    You haven’t been around this whole political thing much have you?
    Tell me again how that’s going to work against Newt next November.

  200. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Excuse me, but as a citizen, I have no such a frikkin duty.

    Wow!?!?!? 😯 . I guess it’s your right not to defend what you believe in but if that’s your choice then do not blame the poiticians for the decay of your society. I say that if you believe in something than it is a your duty to defend it, upohold it, live it, and share it. Don’t neglect it.

    its the frikkin candidate has to not be so frikkin stupid as to forget to mention that he hads 3 frikkin million dollars in a Swiss frikkin bank account.

    What about tonight when Newt that he was “shocked” to have learned that Romney had invested in Freddie and Fannie only to learn from Romney that he too has investments in Freddie and Fannie? Who come Newt’s not stupid and Romney is? I don’t see much consistency in your support for Newt. Fanaticism over Romney, yes, but definitely not consistency. Tonight Newt was most assuredly schooled by Romney in investing money.

    Your “new information” about Newt is that he ran an ad critical of Romney that bent the truth?

    Huh!?!?!? Did you miss the part where Newt “lobbied President Bush to support embryonic stem cell research”? Here, let me put it in blockquotes for you again:

    [Gingrich] lobbied President Bush to support embryonic stem cell research

    I don’t think South Carolinian Evangelicals were informed about this. So maybe you’re right. Ill informed voters may not vote for Romney; but they will for Newt. Napolean almost won the fight with an army of cripples…almost.

    You haven’t been around this whole political thing much have you?

    Not as long as you. I guess I deserved some condenscending remarks tonight (well, yesterday at this point) after I’ve condescended you.

    Good night, Sarge.

  201. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Excuse me, but as a citizen, I have no such a frikkin duty.

    Wow!?!?!? 😯 . I guess it’s your right not to defend what you believe in but if that’s your choice then do not blame the poiticians for the decay of your society. I say that if you believe in something than it is a your duty to defend it, upohold it, live it, and share it. Don’t neglect it.

    its the frikkin candidate has to not be so frikkin stupid as to forget to mention that he hads 3 frikkin million dollars in a Swiss frikkin bank account.

    What about tonight when Newt that he was “shocked” to have learned that Romney had invested in Freddie and Fannie only to learn from Romney that he too has investments in Freddie and Fannie? Who come Newt’s not stupid and Romney is? I don’t see much consistency in your support for Newt. Fanaticism over Romney, yes, but definitely not consistency. Tonight Newt was most assuredly schooled by Romney in investing money.

    Your “new information” about Newt is that he ran an ad critical of Romney that bent the truth?

    Huh!?!?!? Did you miss the part where Newt “lobbied President Bush to support embryonic stem cell research”? Here, let me put it in blockquotes for you again:

    [Gingrich] lobbied President Bush to support embryonic stem cell research

    I don’t think South Carolinian Evangelicals were informed about this. So maybe you’re right. Ill informed voters may not vote for Romney; but they will for Newt. Napolean almost won the fight with an army of cripples…almost.

    You haven’t been around this whole political thing much have you?

    Not as long as you. I guess I deserved some condenscending remarks tonight (well, yesterday at this point) after I’ve condescended you.
    Good night, Sarge.

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