Did anybody else watch the Saints roll over the Giants last night ? The game had the flavor of an old Oiler game with Warren Moon throwing for 487 yards and 32 completions while only putting 16 points on the board. Manning had the same kind of night. I watched closely, though, the tricky and intricate offensive alignments and changeups… Read more »
Robert M
November 29, 2011 8:15 pm
So who had the best caption for that picture? I was challenged and so I took on that challenge so what are the results?
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First the Calvinists.
Then the Baptists.
I figured I better start small.
With a Baptist church every 5,280 feet, I’ll need to find a discount ammo source.
Concerning theological arguments, Jews have about 4,000 years of debating, arguing and feuding over the meanings of prophecies and texts of the Torah, the tradition of the Talmud and the Midrash. Disputes over interpretation and meanings are the lifeblood of Jewish life and have given it the sustaining vibrancy and vitality it has maintained for these millennia. You ain’t livin’… Read more »
#116 Shannon
We all know you ride around Washington County with your AR-15 hanging out the window picking off Calvinists out in their hay fields. They must be nearly extinct out there by now.
I don’t trust the commentary of those who lived long ago and have become tradition simply because they are tradition. By your arguments and numerous comments on the subject: Far from being blind, I choose to take 2000 years of Biblical scholars’ interpretations into consideration over modern ones. you are blind to new understnding, or reasoning outside the confines of… Read more »
This was a great essay by James Q. Wilson from 2002 shortly after the attacks of 9-11-01. He lays out the historical origins of religious wars and the final, exasperated birth of religious tolerance in Europe. Wilson was inspired by the intolerance of Islam and the eventual opposite, but unlikely, result in the West. I was saving this for another… Read more »
mharper42
November 29, 2011 6:09 pm
#112 Pyro From what I gather most of the Romans (in the actual city of Rome) spoke Greek at home. I didn’t think that could possibly be true, but Wiki has some support for it. Eye-opening! from the 1st century BC, the spoken language of the Roman Empire was Vulgar Latin, which significantly differed from Classical Latin in grammar and… Read more »
Greek was never an original language of either Old or New Testament Aramaic and Hebrew are it, anything else and you will lose meaning in the translation. Why would Paul have written to the churches in Greece in a very minor and little-spoken language (especially by the people in Greece) instead of the primary language of the population of Corinth,… Read more »
………………………….buying 5 gallons of 93 octane fuel is SO simple by comparison! And the spiritual peace yielded is enormous……………….
I do agree with Hammy RE: today’s discussions and in general tastefully maintained.
simple ‘free will’ and ‘faith’ fully explain darn near any religious topic one can offer in my world
Good Biblical discussion today. I hope no one was offended. I certainly wasn’t.
What do you mean nobody’s offended ? Somebody has got to be OFFENDED !!!
This is the internet, by Jove, and it’s a tradition.
What kinda wimpy blog is this ?
fat albert
November 29, 2011 5:19 pm
#101 Bonecrusher: 2) In order to understand at a deeper level you must go to the original languages with the understanding of what the idioms were at that time. Greek was never an original language of either Old or New Testament Aramaic and Hebrew are it, anything else and you will lose meaning in the translation. The question of whether… Read more »
I gotta tell ya Boney, when you get off on a Scriptural tangent, you can really try a Christian’s patience.
I just make a concerted effort to remember that the lack of subtle voice inflection, facial expression and other communicative devices inherently lacking in digital conversation can sometimes make a debater appear different than he intended.
Stuck in the blind mud of tradition you are, Hammie.
Bonecrusher
November 29, 2011 4:46 pm
#92 Hammy: The colorful imagery utilized in getting that message across is where we differ. It’s clear to me the author was speaking of real events happening to early Christians and was telling them to stay strong and wait for His return. You see a prophecy of a nuclear holocaust. I see a man clearly naming his persecutor using a… Read more »
At this exact same moment in his term of office, Jimmy Carter had a 51% approval rating. Today, Gallup issued its rating data. Obama has a 43% approval rating and a 49% disapproval score. This is a very cool interactive page at Gallup in which you can compare different presidents’ approval/disapproval ratings at the same points during the life of… Read more »
Commentaries are fine but I temper what I read from other people by taking the time to read what is being commented on. I always start with the source. After decades of reading the Bible, 99% of the time I need no further help. With some of the apocalyptic books, Daniel and Revelations in particular, it helps me to read… Read more »
Bonecrusher
November 29, 2011 4:06 pm
#90 FA:
Don’t you think that’s a circular argument?
I just think he is being irrational.
fat albert
November 29, 2011 3:41 pm
#89 Shannon:
666 is the sum of the first 144 digits of Pi, after the decimal point.
#86 Hamous I know and I am not arguing that. I am, however arguing, against it is an allegorical representation of what early Christians were facing every day of their lives. It was written that way as the Christian community had been driven underground was being persecuted relentlessly by the Romans. In brief, they were speaking in code for fear… Read more »
Hammie I guess one of my passions in matters of religous and (cough cough) polytickles discussions is pressing home the need for everyone to read the source “books” for themselves. I meant no malice with you in the course of our discussion. Commentaries are fine but I temper what I read from other people by taking the time to read… Read more »
To say that Revelations is merely some allegorical book that Christians used to speak in code because they were afraid of the Romans has no basis in fact and cannot be substantiated. The blood of thousands of Christians martyred under Rome from the time of John of Patmos testifies to their persecution. They weren’t just “afraid of the Romans”, they… Read more »
Though I have seen numerous preachers steer their flocks away from commenteries, not one has offered up a legitimate reason. The minute one man reads the Bible and tells another what he thinks it means, he’s produced a commentary. That pretty much makes us all “commentarians”. The preacher that steers his flock away from commentaries is doing nothing more than… Read more »
My point is, everyone interprets Revelations. Let the Bible interpret Revelations for you. To say that Revelations is merely some allegorical book that Christians used to speak in code because they were afraid of the Romans has no basis in fact and cannot be substantiated. john wrote revelations and clearly states it is a book of prophecy of things to… Read more »
Though I have seen numerous preachers steer their flocks away from commenteries, not one has offered up a legitimate reason. Studying the thoughts of greater minds has enriched my faith joirney beyond measure.
The Throne that John is standing before is the very throne of God. the scen is what john saw while standing there. The Bible holds all the definitions you seek of what is being described. 4 Living Creatures angelic creatures called seraphim in Isaiah 6 Elders are prolly the head of the 12 tribes of Israel and the 12 apostles… Read more »
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I’m just glad they didn’t text Brett Favre.
#125 RM
You gave it a good shot, but Sarge beat you to the punch with his #4 Tooth Fairy.
Did anybody else watch the Saints roll over the Giants last night ? The game had the flavor of an old Oiler game with Warren Moon throwing for 487 yards and 32 completions while only putting 16 points on the board. Manning had the same kind of night. I watched closely, though, the tricky and intricate offensive alignments and changeups… Read more »
So who had the best caption for that picture? I was challenged and so I took on that challenge so what are the results?
One article says Delhomme spent the last two years of his career handing off the ball and throwing picks.
Lovely.
/shudder!
120 Hamous
It could be a lot worse.
I had a nightmare last night that Dallas waived Romo and Houston picked him up.
/shudder
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First the Calvinists.
Then the Baptists.
I figured I better start small.
With a Baptist church every 5,280 feet, I’ll need to find a discount ammo source.
Jake Delhomme? I guess Kenny Stabler wasn’t available. Pastorini has a new book out. He could use a comeback to promote it!
Concerning theological arguments, Jews have about 4,000 years of debating, arguing and feuding over the meanings of prophecies and texts of the Torah, the tradition of the Talmud and the Midrash. Disputes over interpretation and meanings are the lifeblood of Jewish life and have given it the sustaining vibrancy and vitality it has maintained for these millennia. You ain’t livin’… Read more »
By that reasoning, unless either Aramaic or Hebrew is your first language, you are translating it into English, thereby losing the meaning.
#116 Shannon
We all know you ride around Washington County with your AR-15 hanging out the window picking off Calvinists out in their hay fields. They must be nearly extinct out there by now.
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I knew it. The Mormons are responsible for the whole ugly mess.
I don’t trust the commentary of those who lived long ago and have become tradition simply because they are tradition. By your arguments and numerous comments on the subject: Far from being blind, I choose to take 2000 years of Biblical scholars’ interpretations into consideration over modern ones. you are blind to new understnding, or reasoning outside the confines of… Read more »
This was a great essay by James Q. Wilson from 2002 shortly after the attacks of 9-11-01. He lays out the historical origins of religious wars and the final, exasperated birth of religious tolerance in Europe. Wilson was inspired by the intolerance of Islam and the eventual opposite, but unlikely, result in the West. I was saving this for another… Read more »
#112 Pyro From what I gather most of the Romans (in the actual city of Rome) spoke Greek at home. I didn’t think that could possibly be true, but Wiki has some support for it. Eye-opening! from the 1st century BC, the spoken language of the Roman Empire was Vulgar Latin, which significantly differed from Classical Latin in grammar and… Read more »
I doubt anyone east of the Bosphorus spoke Latin. From what I gather most of the Romans (in the actual city of Rome) spoke Greek at home.
#109 Wagonburner:
Don’t forget Luke, he was a doctor. Don’t doctors have to learn Greek and Latin?
#106 texpat:
If it will help, I’ll volunteer to be offended – just tell me who I should be offended by and how mad I should be. . . .
Greek was never an original language of either Old or New Testament Aramaic and Hebrew are it, anything else and you will lose meaning in the translation. Why would Paul have written to the churches in Greece in a very minor and little-spoken language (especially by the people in Greece) instead of the primary language of the population of Corinth,… Read more »
………………………….buying 5 gallons of 93 octane fuel is SO simple by comparison! And the spiritual peace yielded is enormous……………….
I do agree with Hammy RE: today’s discussions and in general tastefully maintained.
simple ‘free will’ and ‘faith’ fully explain darn near any religious topic one can offer in my world
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QUIET in the peanut gallery!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#97 Hamous
What do you mean nobody’s offended ?
Somebody has got to be OFFENDED !!!
This is the internet, by Jove, and it’s a tradition.
What kinda wimpy blog is this ?
#101 Bonecrusher: 2) In order to understand at a deeper level you must go to the original languages with the understanding of what the idioms were at that time. Greek was never an original language of either Old or New Testament Aramaic and Hebrew are it, anything else and you will lose meaning in the translation. The question of whether… Read more »
I gotta tell ya Boney, when you get off on a Scriptural tangent, you can really try a Christian’s patience.
I just make a concerted effort to remember that the lack of subtle voice inflection, facial expression and other communicative devices inherently lacking in digital conversation can sometimes make a debater appear different than he intended.
Caption:
Wonder if I can use the “butt floss” in my thong to clean out the cracks in this sidewalk?
Stuck in the blind mud of tradition you are, Hammie.
#92 Hammy: The colorful imagery utilized in getting that message across is where we differ. It’s clear to me the author was speaking of real events happening to early Christians and was telling them to stay strong and wait for His return. You see a prophecy of a nuclear holocaust. I see a man clearly naming his persecutor using a… Read more »
Indeed.
Watch out. According to the chart Truman had a 36% approval rating in April 1948.
One of the best things that’s happened to the blues lately is her union with Derek Trucks.
Good Biblical discussion today. I hope no one was offended. I certainly wasn’t.
At this exact same moment in his term of office, Jimmy Carter had a 51% approval rating. Today, Gallup issued its rating data. Obama has a 43% approval rating and a 49% disapproval score. This is a very cool interactive page at Gallup in which you can compare different presidents’ approval/disapproval ratings at the same points during the life of… Read more »
Ah, this is sweet. The Blind Boys of Alabama with Susan Tedeschi.
And on that note…
I think I found the camera I want.
Commentaries are fine but I temper what I read from other people by taking the time to read what is being commented on. I always start with the source. After decades of reading the Bible, 99% of the time I need no further help. With some of the apocalyptic books, Daniel and Revelations in particular, it helps me to read… Read more »
#90 FA:
I just think he is being irrational.
#89 Shannon:
Don’t you think that’s a circular argument?
666 is the sum of the first 144 digits of Pi, after the decimal point.
#86 Hamous I know and I am not arguing that. I am, however arguing, against it is an allegorical representation of what early Christians were facing every day of their lives. It was written that way as the Christian community had been driven underground was being persecuted relentlessly by the Romans. In brief, they were speaking in code for fear… Read more »
Hammie I guess one of my passions in matters of religous and (cough cough) polytickles discussions is pressing home the need for everyone to read the source “books” for themselves. I meant no malice with you in the course of our discussion. Commentaries are fine but I temper what I read from other people by taking the time to read… Read more »
To say that Revelations is merely some allegorical book that Christians used to speak in code because they were afraid of the Romans has no basis in fact and cannot be substantiated. The blood of thousands of Christians martyred under Rome from the time of John of Patmos testifies to their persecution. They weren’t just “afraid of the Romans”, they… Read more »
🙂
I think I already got that message.
Though I have seen numerous preachers steer their flocks away from commenteries, not one has offered up a legitimate reason. The minute one man reads the Bible and tells another what he thinks it means, he’s produced a commentary. That pretty much makes us all “commentarians”. The preacher that steers his flock away from commentaries is doing nothing more than… Read more »
My point is, everyone interprets Revelations. Let the Bible interpret Revelations for you. To say that Revelations is merely some allegorical book that Christians used to speak in code because they were afraid of the Romans has no basis in fact and cannot be substantiated. john wrote revelations and clearly states it is a book of prophecy of things to… Read more »
I know. You just listed several symbols that John used to relay his message. That was kinda my point at the beginning of this discussion.
Though I have seen numerous preachers steer their flocks away from commenteries, not one has offered up a legitimate reason. Studying the thoughts of greater minds has enriched my faith joirney beyond measure.
The Throne that John is standing before is the very throne of God. the scen is what john saw while standing there. The Bible holds all the definitions you seek of what is being described. 4 Living Creatures angelic creatures called seraphim in Isaiah 6 Elders are prolly the head of the 12 tribes of Israel and the 12 apostles… Read more »