Weekend Filthy Hippie Open Comments

What kind of dirty, filthy hippie are you?


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  1. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    So solly DrayagePyro ya left out the LARGEST category:

    The-Hippie-that-Matured-and-grew-OLD-but-not-UP !!!

  2. Katfish Avatar

    So solly DrayagePyro ya left out the LARGEST category:
    The-Hippie-that-Matured-and-grew-OLD-but-not-UP !!!

  3. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    How about the apathetic hippie, If you call one of the female’s “hippie” will that get you a sexual assault charge? It seems to me to be that if they are all left there crowded up in a park to manage for themselves they will all get sick and die in short order. Hopefully they do not contaminate passer-bys and start a pandemic.

    Just another way to put a little clorox in the gene pool.

  4. El Gordo Avatar

    How about the apathetic hippie, If you call one of the female’s “hippie” will that get you a sexual assault charge? It seems to me to be that if they are all left there crowded up in a park to manage for themselves they will all get sick and die in short order. Hopefully they do not contaminate passer-bys and start a pandemic.
    Just another way to put a little clorox in the gene pool.

  5. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    I’ve always had short hair, no facial hair, practice good hygiene, try to dress appropriately for the event, and generally try to behave myself. However, I do like to occasionally go out into the woods and pee on trees. Does that qualify me for some sort of green, hippie status?

  6. El Gordo Avatar

    I’ve always had short hair, no facial hair, practice good hygiene, try to dress appropriately for the event, and generally try to behave myself. However, I do like to occasionally go out into the woods and pee on trees. Does that qualify me for some sort of green, hippie status?

  7. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Good morning, Hamsters. It is really Fall, a cool 60 degrees outside. I haven’t been around any hippies since I left Austin ~ 30 years ago. Was never a hippie myself, but did go through a brief beatnik phase my last year in high school. Looking back on it, I can see it was just a clothing style, not a lifestyle. I just wore black outfits to my after-school job at the Midland Public Library. Not exactly a flaming drop-out.

  8. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Good morning, Hamsters. It is really Fall, a cool 60 degrees outside. I haven’t been around any hippies since I left Austin ~ 30 years ago. Was never a hippie myself, but did go through a brief beatnik phase my last year in high school. Looking back on it, I can see it was just a clothing style, not a lifestyle. I just wore black outfits to my after-school job at the Midland Public Library. Not exactly a flaming drop-out.

  9. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    A great Drudge headline!
    POLL: AMERICANS PREFER NETANYAHU TO OBAMA…

    President Obama’s hot-miked conversation with French President Nicolas Sarkozy suggested that he is frustrated with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu — but Americans might be more frustrated with Obama than they are irritated by Netanyahu.

  10. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    A great Drudge headline!
    POLL: AMERICANS PREFER NETANYAHU TO OBAMA…

    President Obama’s hot-miked conversation with French President Nicolas Sarkozy suggested that he is frustrated with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu — but Americans might be more frustrated with Obama than they are irritated by Netanyahu.

  11. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Now this is too bizarre. Whaddayathink, Katfish?
    Motorcycle Powered by Sewage, Has Toilet for Seat

  12. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Now this is too bizarre. Whaddayathink, Katfish?
    Motorcycle Powered by Sewage, Has Toilet for Seat

  13. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #6 – ROFL – too funny!

    Nuttin wrong with an eco-friendly trike in my book – the creator obviously has a sense of humor! I’m curious to know how efficient it is………….

  14. Katfish Avatar

    #6 – ROFL – too funny!
    Nuttin wrong with an eco-friendly trike in my book – the creator obviously has a sense of humor! I’m curious to know how efficient it is………….

  15. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    G’Morning all

    How the new hippies live.

    Protesters Coming Down With the “Zuccotti Lung”
    Park conditions put demonstrators at risk for variety of sicknesses, officials say.
    Friday, Nov 11, 2011 | Updated 5:48 PM EST

    Protesters Get “Zuccotti Lung”

    With wintry weather poised to swoop into the cramped outdoor quarters of Occupy Wall Street protesters, it may not be long before more campers catch what’s being called “Zuccotti lung.”

    That’s what demonstrators have dubbed the sickness that seems to be spreading among them at an unpleasantly high rate these days: “It’s a real thing,” Willie Carey, 28, told the New York Times.

    With little sleep in cold conditions, cigarettes and drinks being passed from mouth to mouth, and few opportunities to wash hands, Zuccotti Park may now just be the best place to catch respiratory viruses, norovirus (also known as the winter vomiting virus) and tuberculosis, according to one doctor.

    The damp clothing and cardboard signs wet with rain are also breeding grounds for mold. Some protesters are urinating in bottles and leaving food trash discarded throughout the campground, providing further opportunities for nastiness.

    “Pretty much everything here is a good way to get sick,” Salvatore Cipolla, 23, from Long Island, told the Times. “It’ll definitely thin the herd.”

    Some protesters have refused free flu shots, citing a “government conspiracy,” the Times said.

    There is also the increased risk among the encampment of sexually transmitted diseases, said the doctor, Dr. Philip M. Tierno, Jr. of the NYU Langone Medical Center. And the site’s pounding circles could lead to hearing damage.

    http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Zuccotti-Lung-Park-Sickness-Demonstrators-Protesters-Illness-133669113.html?dr

  16. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    G’Morning all
    How the new hippies live.

    Protesters Coming Down With the “Zuccotti Lung”
    Park conditions put demonstrators at risk for variety of sicknesses, officials say.
    Friday, Nov 11, 2011 | Updated 5:48 PM EST
    Protesters Get “Zuccotti Lung”
    With wintry weather poised to swoop into the cramped outdoor quarters of Occupy Wall Street protesters, it may not be long before more campers catch what’s being called “Zuccotti lung.”
    That’s what demonstrators have dubbed the sickness that seems to be spreading among them at an unpleasantly high rate these days: “It’s a real thing,” Willie Carey, 28, told the New York Times.
    With little sleep in cold conditions, cigarettes and drinks being passed from mouth to mouth, and few opportunities to wash hands, Zuccotti Park may now just be the best place to catch respiratory viruses, norovirus (also known as the winter vomiting virus) and tuberculosis, according to one doctor.
    The damp clothing and cardboard signs wet with rain are also breeding grounds for mold. Some protesters are urinating in bottles and leaving food trash discarded throughout the campground, providing further opportunities for nastiness.
    “Pretty much everything here is a good way to get sick,” Salvatore Cipolla, 23, from Long Island, told the Times. “It’ll definitely thin the herd.”
    Some protesters have refused free flu shots, citing a “government conspiracy,” the Times said.
    There is also the increased risk among the encampment of sexually transmitted diseases, said the doctor, Dr. Philip M. Tierno, Jr. of the NYU Langone Medical Center. And the site’s pounding circles could lead to hearing damage.

    http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Zuccotti-Lung-Park-Sickness-Demonstrators-Protesters-Illness-133669113.html?dr

  17. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    This is about as sick and twisted as one can get. Gangsta sucker punches old man to show off to his home crowd.

    Police have launched an investigation after a man was caught on video knocking out an older man at the Chicago Avenue Red Line stop while others laughed and mimicked the attack.

    The assault occurred in April, but the video has only recently surfaced on the Internet.

    The video, posted at worldstarhiphop.com, shows a man in a tan coat moving among people on the southbound subway platform as a group of youths joke and laugh. One of the youths starts following the man, turning around and smiling as his friends whoop and laugh.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-video-shows-man-being-punched-at-red-line-stop-amid-laughs-and-taunts-20111111,0,5079572.story

  18. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    This is about as sick and twisted as one can get. Gangsta sucker punches old man to show off to his home crowd.

    Police have launched an investigation after a man was caught on video knocking out an older man at the Chicago Avenue Red Line stop while others laughed and mimicked the attack.
    The assault occurred in April, but the video has only recently surfaced on the Internet.
    The video, posted at worldstarhiphop.com, shows a man in a tan coat moving among people on the southbound subway platform as a group of youths joke and laugh. One of the youths starts following the man, turning around and smiling as his friends whoop and laugh.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-video-shows-man-being-punched-at-red-line-stop-amid-laughs-and-taunts-20111111,0,5079572.story

  19. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #3 EG

    go out into the woods and pee on trees.

    Pervert

  20. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #3 EG

    go out into the woods and pee on trees.

    Pervert

  21. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Now I know where the Trojan I got a couple of months ago off of Drudge came from. Unbelieveable. I didn’t think that even Holder and friends would be this vindictive.

    In this computer age, discovery consists of CD-Roms packed full of files, some of them correctly labeled, some not. Names of snitches are almost all redacted, but names of subjects of investigation, such as Andreas Carl Strassmeier in the OKC bombing case, are often deliberately misspelled so they cannot be easily found in a search. J.D. Cash once told me that there were almost a dozen permutations of the spelling of Strassmeier in the OKC discovery material — far too many to be accidental.
    But the latest dirty shyster sxxxtbag trick that federal LEOs and US Attorneys resort to is the virus inserted into files.

    http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2011/11/stupid-us-attorney-trick-43-slipping.html

  22. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Now I know where the Trojan I got a couple of months ago off of Drudge came from. Unbelieveable. I didn’t think that even Holder and friends would be this vindictive.

    In this computer age, discovery consists of CD-Roms packed full of files, some of them correctly labeled, some not. Names of snitches are almost all redacted, but names of subjects of investigation, such as Andreas Carl Strassmeier in the OKC bombing case, are often deliberately misspelled so they cannot be easily found in a search. J.D. Cash once told me that there were almost a dozen permutations of the spelling of Strassmeier in the OKC discovery material — far too many to be accidental.
    But the latest dirty shyster sxxxtbag trick that federal LEOs and US Attorneys resort to is the virus inserted into files.

    http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2011/11/stupid-us-attorney-trick-43-slipping.html

  23. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    You once went on a humanitarian mission to Uganda. But it was mostly to hit on the other volunteers.

    My buddy and I would go to PDAP meetings just because the greetings with females was a kiss. 😀

  24. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    You once went on a humanitarian mission to Uganda. But it was mostly to hit on the other volunteers.

    My buddy and I would go to PDAP meetings just because the greetings with females was a kiss. 😀

  25. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #10 mharper42

    That’s a male thing. (No pun intended) It is in our genes (No pun intended) for marking territory.

  26. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #10 mharper42
    That’s a male thing. (No pun intended) It is in our genes (No pun intended) for marking territory.

  27. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    #8
    OTL

    Yeah, their hippie mommys raised them in a germ free bubble, now they’re living in a cesspool.

  28. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #8
    OTL
    Yeah, their hippie mommys raised them in a germ free bubble, now they’re living in a cesspool.

  29. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    It is in our genes (No pun intended) for marking territory

    My puppy/almost dog always covers mine with his, then I cover his…..we argue a lot that way.

  30. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    It is in our genes (No pun intended) for marking territory

    My puppy/almost dog always covers mine with his, then I cover his…..we argue a lot that way.

  31. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    My puppy/almost dog speaks to me……. well doesn’t really speak, just walks around with one of those cartoon bubbles over his head so I can read what he’s thinking.

    For example yesterday outside;

    Squirrel, squirrel!! Aw dang it…… wish I could climb a tree…… I’ll just go over here and wait…….ohhh a stick….. I’ll just lay here and chew on this stick and wait, he’s gotta come down sometime.

    This morning;

    You expect me to go #2 inside of two minutes and you sit there reading a book??

    But he’s a pretty simple minded feller, most of the time it’s some version of;

    BACON!!!

  32. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    My puppy/almost dog speaks to me……. well doesn’t really speak, just walks around with one of those cartoon bubbles over his head so I can read what he’s thinking.
    For example yesterday outside;
    Squirrel, squirrel!! Aw dang it…… wish I could climb a tree…… I’ll just go over here and wait…….ohhh a stick….. I’ll just lay here and chew on this stick and wait, he’s gotta come down sometime.
    This morning;
    You expect me to go #2 inside of two minutes and you sit there reading a book??
    But he’s a pretty simple minded feller, most of the time it’s some version of;
    BACON!!!

  33. Tedtam Avatar

    G’morning!

    I have an information request. Hubby has 1996 Dodge truck that he uses to haul his backhoe trailer around. He’s looking for a 12V, DC, roof mounted aftermarket A/C unit so he can travel in cool style instead of sweating all summer. We’ve been doing search after search on the internet, but haven’t had much luck. It’s always for big rigs, wrong size, or some other reason it won’t fit or work.

    If any of you have information, we’d love to have it. Thanks in advance for any and all help.

  34. Tedtam Avatar

    G’morning!
    I have an information request. Hubby has 1996 Dodge truck that he uses to haul his backhoe trailer around. He’s looking for a 12V, DC, roof mounted aftermarket A/C unit so he can travel in cool style instead of sweating all summer. We’ve been doing search after search on the internet, but haven’t had much luck. It’s always for big rigs, wrong size, or some other reason it won’t fit or work.
    If any of you have information, we’d love to have it. Thanks in advance for any and all help.

  35. phil Avatar
    phil

    The next SleazeBagger movement—Occupy fat boy’s house.

  36. phil Avatar
    phil

    The next SleazeBagger movement—Occupy fat boy’s house.

  37. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #17 TT

    He’s looking for a 12V, DC, roof mounted aftermarket A/C unit so he can travel in cool style instead of sweating all summer

    Did you try this company?

    http://www.heco.net/rd_rooftop.htm

  38. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #17 TT

    He’s looking for a 12V, DC, roof mounted aftermarket A/C unit so he can travel in cool style instead of sweating all summer

    Did you try this company?
    http://www.heco.net/rd_rooftop.htm

  39. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    There’s a difference between Lenin and Lennon?

  40. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    There’s a difference between Lenin and Lennon?

  41. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    #20

    Of course there is, one was a Marxist commie revolutionary, the other was a Russian politician.

  42. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #20
    Of course there is, one was a Marxist commie revolutionary, the other was a Russian politician.

  43. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    I wonder why the twits are descending on the Egyptian consulate.

    http://twitter.com/#!/OccupyHouston

  44. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    I wonder why the twits are descending on the Egyptian consulate.
    http://twitter.com/#!/OccupyHouston

  45. Hamous Avatar

    Lennon became a conservative before he was gunned down.

  46. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Lennon became a conservative before he was gunned down.

  47. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #15 Tim

    we argue a lot that way

    Hope these “arguments” with your dog are occurring in the back yard behind a high privacy fence…

  48. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #15 Tim

    we argue a lot that way

    Hope these “arguments” with your dog are occurring in the back yard behind a high privacy fence…

  49. Katfish Avatar

    #22 goatboy
    Confused by geography re: Israel & Egypt?

  50. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #22 goatboy
    Confused by geography re: Israel & Egypt?

  51. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #16

    BACON!!!

    Hey Tim, that’s the thought balloon over your head.

  52. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #16

    BACON!!!

    Hey Tim, that’s the thought balloon over your head.

  53. Katfish Avatar

    Squirrel, squirrel!! Aw dang it…… wish I could climb a tree…… I’ll just go over here and wait…….ohhh a stick….. I’ll just lay here and chew on this stick and wait, he’s gotta come down sometime.

    Pretty sure his thought process ended at “chew on this stick”.

    Until something shiny catches his eye.

  54. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Squirrel, squirrel!! Aw dang it…… wish I could climb a tree…… I’ll just go over here and wait…….ohhh a stick….. I’ll just lay here and chew on this stick and wait, he’s gotta come down sometime.

    Pretty sure his thought process ended at “chew on this stick”.
    Until something shiny catches his eye.

  55. Katfish Avatar

    Hey Tim, that’s the thought balloon over your head.

    I dunno. The crazy aunt can get pretty loud.

  56. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Hey Tim, that’s the thought balloon over your head.

    I dunno. The crazy aunt can get pretty loud.

  57. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #21
    Heh. This is why Tim is known for his awesomeness.
    🙂

  58. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #21
    Heh. This is why Tim is known for his awesomeness.
    🙂

  59. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Good topic for today, wagon. Mrs. Darren just informed me that tone of the few things she wants for Christmas is a hippie sleep shirt/ caftan.

  60. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Good topic for today, wagon. Mrs. Darren just informed me that tone of the few things she wants for Christmas is a hippie sleep shirt/ caftan.

  61. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Darren42

    Check your email.

    /OUT

    /Heh I have always wanted to do this. It used to make Benzion nuts when people would do this.

    /Retarment suits me I gotta tell ya whut.

    /Now I am out of here.

    /Gotta run to the store.

    /Not that anyone cares.

    /It used to drive Benzion nuts when people would drop in and post their real world status update and then boogie.

    /I gotta go now

    /It used to drive ME nuts when people would do exactly what I am doing right now. Just post drivel for the sake of taking up space that no one is going to respond to and they have to scroll through to get to the more important or is that impotent stuff.

    /Really I gotta leave. Lovely wife is threatening me.

    /The dog wants a treat

    /Dang it I just cannot stop. BUT I really gotta head out.

    /Hitting the road now

    /See yuh.

    /Oh crap I cannot believe I said “See yuh”. That goof on 700 KSEV says that and I hate it.

    /BRB

    /Well maybe not BRB. Maybe i should have said BBL. But not everyone knows what BBL is. BRB Later.

    /Maybe

    /I’m GONE

  62. squawkbox Avatar

    Darren42
    Check your email.
    /OUT

    /Heh I have always wanted to do this. It used to make Benzion nuts when people would do this.
    /Retarment suits me I gotta tell ya whut.
    /Now I am out of here.
    /Gotta run to the store.
    /Not that anyone cares.
    /It used to drive Benzion nuts when people would drop in and post their real world status update and then boogie.
    /I gotta go now
    /It used to drive ME nuts when people would do exactly what I am doing right now. Just post drivel for the sake of taking up space that no one is going to respond to and they have to scroll through to get to the more important or is that impotent stuff.
    /Really I gotta leave. Lovely wife is threatening me.
    /The dog wants a treat
    /Dang it I just cannot stop. BUT I really gotta head out.
    /Hitting the road now
    /See yuh.
    /Oh crap I cannot believe I said “See yuh”. That goof on 700 KSEV says that and I hate it.
    /BRB
    /Well maybe not BRB. Maybe i should have said BBL. But not everyone knows what BBL is. BRB Later.
    /Maybe
    /I’m GONE

  63. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Deficit ‘super committee’ may put off decisions

    Rather than risk stark failure, the congressional panel could decide now on only the outline of a deal, deferring the tougher calls until after the 2012 election.

    Whoohoo, keep the risk of our credit rating to be lowered alive and well, super committee.

  64. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Deficit ‘super committee’ may put off decisions

    Rather than risk stark failure, the congressional panel could decide now on only the outline of a deal, deferring the tougher calls until after the 2012 election.

    Whoohoo, keep the risk of our credit rating to be lowered alive and well, super committee.

  65. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Did i mention I was joining BA. Bloggers Anonymous?

    Hi My name is Squawk and I start crap one post at a time.

    /Out

    /For real OUT this time.

    /i think

  66. squawkbox Avatar

    Did i mention I was joining BA. Bloggers Anonymous?
    Hi My name is Squawk and I start crap one post at a time.
    /Out
    /For real OUT this time.
    /i think

  67. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    squawk #32;

    You know you’re not on Twitter, right? 😉

  68. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    squawk #32;
    You know you’re not on Twitter, right? 😉

  69. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Heh

    I ain’t the only one Darren. 😉

  70. squawkbox Avatar

    Heh
    I ain’t the only one Darren. 😉

  71. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    /It used to drive ME nuts ……

    Man I never knew that. Crap, I feel bad now.

    C’ya, BBL

  72. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    /It used to drive ME nuts ……

    Man I never knew that. Crap, I feel bad now.
    C’ya, BBL

  73. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #30 Goats
    Yep, a clone or a distant relative across the pond. ST posted her holiday menu on Facebook: beets and roadkill.

  74. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #30 Goats
    Yep, a clone or a distant relative across the pond. ST posted her holiday menu on Facebook: beets and roadkill.

  75. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #32, #34
    Looks like Squawkie is off his meds again.
    🙂

  76. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #32, #34
    Looks like Squawkie is off his meds again.
    🙂

  77. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Man I never knew that. Crap, I feel bad now.

    Not you GJT 🙂

  78. squawkbox Avatar

    Man I never knew that. Crap, I feel bad now.

    Not you GJT 🙂

  79. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Just kidding. I did feel bad once though……once.

  80. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Just kidding. I did feel bad once though……once.

  81. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Yeh that is sorta like me. I got over it pretty quick. 🙂

  82. squawkbox Avatar

    Yeh that is sorta like me. I got over it pretty quick. 🙂

  83. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Looks like Squawkie is off his meds again.

    BSue saw this and asked (as she was adjusting the straps on my new jacket)

    “How do they know it ain’t the meds?” 😉

    /Do you know how hard it is to type with your nose? Sheesh.

  84. squawkbox Avatar

    Looks like Squawkie is off his meds again.

    BSue saw this and asked (as she was adjusting the straps on my new jacket)
    “How do they know it ain’t the meds?” 😉
    /Do you know how hard it is to type with your nose? Sheesh.

  85. Hamous Avatar

    Simpleton: Regarding your attack against me yesterday:
    I think I will let someone far more eloquent than I answer you

    OBAMA’S AMERICA & THE OCCUPY WALL STREET CROWD
    By Thomas Sowell, PhD.

    The current Occupy Wall Street movement is the best illustration to date
    of what President Barack Obama’s America looks like. It is an America
    where the lawless, unaccomplished, ignorant and incompetent rule. It is
    an America where those who have sacrificed nothing pillage and destroy
    the lives of those who have sacrificed greatly.

    It is an America where history is rewritten to honor dictators, murderers
    and thieves. It is an America where violence, racism, hatred, class warfare
    and murder are all promoted as acceptable means of overturning the American
    civil society.

    It is an America where humans have been degraded to the level of animals:
    defecating in public, having sex in public, devoid of basic hygiene. It is an
    America where the basic tenets of a civil society, including faith, family, a
    free press and individual rights, have been rejected. It is an America where
    our founding documents have been shredded and, with them, every person’s
    guaranteed liberties.

    It is an America where, ultimately, great suffering will come to the American
    people, but the rulers like Obama, Michelle Obama, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi,
    Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Joe Biden, Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakhan, liberal
    college professors, union bosses and other loyal liberal/Communist Party members
    will live in opulent splendor.

    It is the America that Obama and the Democratic Party have created with the
    willing assistance of the American media, Hollywood , unions, universities, the
    Communist Party of America, the Black Panthers and numerous anti-American
    foreign entities.

    Barack Obama has brought more destruction upon this country in four years than
    any other event in the history of our nation, but it is just the beginning of what he
    and his comrades are capable of.

    The Occupy Wall Street movement is just another step in their plan for the
    annihilation of America .

    “Socialism, in general, has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual
    could ignore or evade it.”

    Thomas Sowell

    Dr. Sowell is a professor of economics at Stanford University. And he is a black American.

    The T-Partiers register legitimate gripes in an orderly, legal and sanitary manner; the Occuliars are just vermin. Maybe one day you will be able to discern the difference.

  86. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Simpleton: Regarding your attack against me yesterday:
    I think I will let someone far more eloquent than I answer you

    OBAMA’S AMERICA & THE OCCUPY WALL STREET CROWD
    By Thomas Sowell, PhD.
    The current Occupy Wall Street movement is the best illustration to date
    of what President Barack Obama’s America looks like. It is an America
    where the lawless, unaccomplished, ignorant and incompetent rule. It is
    an America where those who have sacrificed nothing pillage and destroy
    the lives of those who have sacrificed greatly.
    It is an America where history is rewritten to honor dictators, murderers
    and thieves. It is an America where violence, racism, hatred, class warfare
    and murder are all promoted as acceptable means of overturning the American
    civil society.
    It is an America where humans have been degraded to the level of animals:
    defecating in public, having sex in public, devoid of basic hygiene. It is an
    America where the basic tenets of a civil society, including faith, family, a
    free press and individual rights, have been rejected. It is an America where
    our founding documents have been shredded and, with them, every person’s
    guaranteed liberties.
    It is an America where, ultimately, great suffering will come to the American
    people, but the rulers like Obama, Michelle Obama, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi,
    Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Joe Biden, Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakhan, liberal
    college professors, union bosses and other loyal liberal/Communist Party members
    will live in opulent splendor.
    It is the America that Obama and the Democratic Party have created with the
    willing assistance of the American media, Hollywood , unions, universities, the
    Communist Party of America, the Black Panthers and numerous anti-American
    foreign entities.
    Barack Obama has brought more destruction upon this country in four years than
    any other event in the history of our nation, but it is just the beginning of what he
    and his comrades are capable of.
    The Occupy Wall Street movement is just another step in their plan for the
    annihilation of America .
    “Socialism, in general, has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual
    could ignore or evade it.”
    Thomas Sowell
    Dr. Sowell is a professor of economics at Stanford University. And he is a black American.

    The T-Partiers register legitimate gripes in an orderly, legal and sanitary manner; the Occuliars are just vermin. Maybe one day you will be able to discern the difference.

  87. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    Couple of Californians almost get swallowed/squished by whales.

    http://www.fishgame.com/newsblog.php?p=3543

  88. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    Couple of Californians almost get swallowed/squished by whales.
    http://www.fishgame.com/newsblog.php?p=3543

  89. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    #43;

    You don’t sneeze around your keyboard, do you?

  90. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    #43;
    You don’t sneeze around your keyboard, do you?

  91. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Bonecrusher #44;

    “Socialism, in general, has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual
    could ignore or evade it.”

    How true is that!

  92. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Bonecrusher #44;

    “Socialism, in general, has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual
    could ignore or evade it.”

    How true is that!

  93. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #46 Darren

    You don’t sneeze around your keyboard, do you?

    Uh Darren, I don’t think “Sheesh” was a sneeze.
    🙂

  94. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #46 Darren

    You don’t sneeze around your keyboard, do you?

    Uh Darren, I don’t think “Sheesh” was a sneeze.
    🙂

  95. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    To make Simple Simons comparison of tea party to ows more complete. The tea party show up, gripe, pick up their trash and leave. I wonder how the Sargent Major would react to gripers who camped out in the hall outside his office door, started crapping all over the place, and refused to leave.

  96. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    To make Simple Simons comparison of tea party to ows more complete. The tea party show up, gripe, pick up their trash and leave. I wonder how the Sargent Major would react to gripers who camped out in the hall outside his office door, started crapping all over the place, and refused to leave.

  97. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    Kansas and Aggies going into 2nd overtime.

  98. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    Kansas and Aggies going into 2nd overtime.

  99. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Well, it’s all up to the Aggie defense now.

  100. El Gordo Avatar

    Well, it’s all up to the Aggie defense now.

  101. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    3rd overtime

  102. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    3rd overtime

  103. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Kansas and Aggies going into 2nd 3rd overtime.

  104. squawkbox Avatar

    Kansas and Aggies going into 2nd 3rd overtime.

  105. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    OBAMA’S AMERICA & THE OCCUPY WALL STREET Oakland CROWD

    Yup that about covers it. I am all for peaceful assembly. When it gets like this bring on the dogs, tear gas and night sticks.

  106. squawkbox Avatar

    OBAMA’S AMERICA & THE OCCUPY WALL STREET Oakland CROWD
    Yup that about covers it. I am all for peaceful assembly. When it gets like this bring on the dogs, tear gas and night sticks.

  107. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Peaceful assembly does not include impeding my right to go to work, blocking streets etc. I find it not to hard to NOT defend this peaceful assemblage at all.

    Warning language warning

  108. squawkbox Avatar

    Peaceful assembly does not include impeding my right to go to work, blocking streets etc. I find it not to hard to NOT defend this peaceful assemblage at all.
    Warning language warning

  109. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Or the fencing materials sans gate.

  110. El Gordo Avatar

    Or the fencing materials sans gate.

  111. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Kansas and Aggies going into 2nd 3rd 4th overtime.

  112. squawkbox Avatar

    Kansas and Aggies going into 2nd 3rd 4th overtime.

  113. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    “In some ways, they’re not that different from some of the protests that we saw coming from the Tea Party. Both on the left and the right, I think people feel separated from their government. They feel that their institutions aren’t looking out for them,”
    Brok Obammy

    Yeah they look really similar. I mean look there are a whole bunch of people gathered together………… in front of the Washington Monument…………… in parks……………

    Wow those Tea Party people sure did trample the grass. Dang heathens.

    And and THEY WERE THERE ALL DAY TOO!!!!!

  114. squawkbox Avatar

    “In some ways, they’re not that different from some of the protests that we saw coming from the Tea Party. Both on the left and the right, I think people feel separated from their government. They feel that their institutions aren’t looking out for them,”
    Brok Obammy

    Yeah they look really similar. I mean look there are a whole bunch of people gathered together………… in front of the Washington Monument…………… in parks……………
    Wow those Tea Party people sure did trample the grass. Dang heathens.
    And and THEY WERE THERE ALL DAY TOO!!!!!

  115. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I’m going to tee tee now, SQK.
    BBL.
    Buh bye.

  116. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I’m going to tee tee now, SQK.
    BBL.
    Buh bye.

  117. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Hi My name is Squawk and I start crap one post at a time.

  118. squawkbox Avatar

    Hi My name is Squawk and I start crap one post at a time.

  119. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Why are we talking baby talk? That’s harder than pirate lingo.

  120. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Why are we talking baby talk? That’s harder than pirate lingo.

  121. Tedtam Avatar

    Well, I got home just in time to see the Aggies lose in 4th overtime.

    Maybe I should have stayed out shopping a little longer. /sigh

    While I was shopping at Hobby Lobby, I was looking at the Christmas ornaments, hoping to find this year’s Santa Claus. (None of the shelf Santas were appealing enough.) I came across a section of college based ornaments, including Texas A&M and t.u. A little boy was with his mother, and I heard her say as he fingered an orange ornament, “If you can read it, you can have it.”
    Boy: “Dang, I can’t read it.”
    Me: “I’ll help you read one of these so you can have it!” (Pointing at TAMU snowglobe)
    (Boy comes over and I take it down so he can read the sign inside the snow globe ornament, and bend down to his level.)
    Me: “See- it says “Texas A&M.”
    Boy: “Texas A&M”
    Mom: “Ask her what it is.”
    Me: “Texas A&M is the BEST university in the state, possibly the world!”
    (Mom laughs)
    Boy: “Really?”
    Dad (who just pulled up behind mom with his own basket): “It’s a very good school.”
    Me: “Yes, it’s a very, very good school!”
    Mom (still laughing): “It stands for Texas Agricultural and —
    Me (chiming in): “Texas Agricultural and Mechanical University.”
    Mom: “It’s a very big school.”
    Dad: “VERY big school.”
    Me: “Yes, it is.”
    Boy turns to mom with the snow globe in hand, and she tells him he can keep it. I am, of course, grinning like a Cheshire cat as I walk off and hear her say “That was funny!”

    Once an Aggie, always an Aggie.

  122. Tedtam Avatar

    Well, I got home just in time to see the Aggies lose in 4th overtime.
    Maybe I should have stayed out shopping a little longer. /sigh
    While I was shopping at Hobby Lobby, I was looking at the Christmas ornaments, hoping to find this year’s Santa Claus. (None of the shelf Santas were appealing enough.) I came across a section of college based ornaments, including Texas A&M and t.u. A little boy was with his mother, and I heard her say as he fingered an orange ornament, “If you can read it, you can have it.”
    Boy: “Dang, I can’t read it.”
    Me: “I’ll help you read one of these so you can have it!” (Pointing at TAMU snowglobe)
    (Boy comes over and I take it down so he can read the sign inside the snow globe ornament, and bend down to his level.)
    Me: “See- it says “Texas A&M.”
    Boy: “Texas A&M”
    Mom: “Ask her what it is.”
    Me: “Texas A&M is the BEST university in the state, possibly the world!”
    (Mom laughs)
    Boy: “Really?”
    Dad (who just pulled up behind mom with his own basket): “It’s a very good school.”
    Me: “Yes, it’s a very, very good school!”
    Mom (still laughing): “It stands for Texas Agricultural and —
    Me (chiming in): “Texas Agricultural and Mechanical University.”
    Mom: “It’s a very big school.”
    Dad: “VERY big school.”
    Me: “Yes, it is.”
    Boy turns to mom with the snow globe in hand, and she tells him he can keep it. I am, of course, grinning like a Cheshire cat as I walk off and hear her say “That was funny!”
    Once an Aggie, always an Aggie.

  123. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Why are we talking baby talk?

    It is simple really, I mean REALLY simple. We Macho men could not get in touch with our feminine side cause they were out shopping or doing dishes or something, so we regressed to our inner child.

  124. squawkbox Avatar

    Why are we talking baby talk?

    It is simple really, I mean REALLY simple. We Macho men could not get in touch with our feminine side cause they were out shopping or doing dishes or something, so we regressed to our inner child.

  125. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    Why are we talking baby talk?

    They are just pandering to Shannon’s limited vocabulary.

  126. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    Why are we talking baby talk?
    They are just pandering to Shannon’s limited vocabulary.

  127. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Buhwahahahahahahahahahaha

    Now that is funny right there I don’t care who you are.

  128. squawkbox Avatar

    Buhwahahahahahahahahahaha
    Now that is funny right there I don’t care who you are.

  129. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    GTO – 1
    Shannon – 0, zip, nada

  130. squawkbox Avatar

    GTO – 1
    Shannon – 0, zip, nada

  131. Hamous Avatar

    #64 GTO: Dude, that is just brutal – not that there is anything wrong with that.

  132. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #64 GTO: Dude, that is just brutal – not that there is anything wrong with that.

  133. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    They are just pandering to Shannon’s limited vocabulary.

    Heh. that’s funny. I wouldn’t say it, however, over the slight chance Shannon would show his vocabulary bona fides against mine. Then I’d really look stupid.

  134. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    They are just pandering to Shannon’s limited vocabulary.

    Heh. that’s funny. I wouldn’t say it, however, over the slight chance Shannon would show his vocabulary bona fides against mine. Then I’d really look stupid.

  135. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Waaaaaah

    Doesn’t help my previous post. 🙂

  136. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Waaaaaah

    Doesn’t help my previous post. 🙂

  137. Tedtam Avatar

    I tried to go to the cbsnews live feed for the last half of the debate. It sucked. I was watching the twitter feed, and no one was happy with the feed. Obviously, cbs is using too much money on the moderator’s hair and makeup, and not enough on their bandwidth.

  138. Tedtam Avatar

    I tried to go to the cbsnews live feed for the last half of the debate. It sucked. I was watching the twitter feed, and no one was happy with the feed. Obviously, cbs is using too much money on the moderator’s hair and makeup, and not enough on their bandwidth.

  139. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Junior dos Santos landed a huge overhand right on the side Cain Velasquez’s head and it was over seconds later. Just like that. JDS takes the UFC heavyweight title on Fox at the 1:04 mark of the first at the Honda Center.

    Heck, if that’s all it takes, I can win the UFC title. Of course, I’ll have to land a huge left to the head.

    Dos Santos’ lands one big right and makes it a short night for Velasquez at UFC on Fox

  140. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Junior dos Santos landed a huge overhand right on the side Cain Velasquez’s head and it was over seconds later. Just like that. JDS takes the UFC heavyweight title on Fox at the 1:04 mark of the first at the Honda Center.

    Heck, if that’s all it takes, I can win the UFC title. Of course, I’ll have to land a huge left to the head.
    Dos Santos’ lands one big right and makes it a short night for Velasquez at UFC on Fox

  141. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I had cynically assumed that the Superfriends would address America’s imminent debt catastrophe with some radical reform — such as, say, slowing the increase in spending by raising the age for lowering the age of Medicare eligibility from 47 to 49 by the year 2137, after which triumph we could all go back to sleep until total societal collapse.

    But I underestimated the genius of the Superfriends’ Supercommittee. It turns out that a committee created to reduce the deficit is instead going to increase it. As The Hill reported:

    Democrats on the supercommittee have proposed that the savings from the end of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan be used to pay for a new stimulus package, according to a summary of the $2.3 trillion plan obtained by The Hill.

    Goooooo supercommittee. Their existence has thus far helped ensure our economy tanks.

    Deficit-Reduction Fever: President Obama launches the war on tchotchkes.

  142. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I had cynically assumed that the Superfriends would address America’s imminent debt catastrophe with some radical reform — such as, say, slowing the increase in spending by raising the age for lowering the age of Medicare eligibility from 47 to 49 by the year 2137, after which triumph we could all go back to sleep until total societal collapse.
    But I underestimated the genius of the Superfriends’ Supercommittee. It turns out that a committee created to reduce the deficit is instead going to increase it. As The Hill reported:

    Democrats on the supercommittee have proposed that the savings from the end of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan be used to pay for a new stimulus package, according to a summary of the $2.3 trillion plan obtained by The Hill.

    Goooooo supercommittee. Their existence has thus far helped ensure our economy tanks.
    Deficit-Reduction Fever: President Obama launches the war on tchotchkes.

  143. phil Avatar
    phil

    Covering up
    Barack’s
    Scandals and lies 24/7.

  144. phil Avatar
    phil

    Covering up
    Barack’s
    Scandals and lies 24/7.

  145. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Want to See a New Island Forming in the Atlantic?

    At the end of the video you actually see the new island bubble up towards the surface of the water. I assume it was new lava pushing up the land. Kinda cool.

  146. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Want to See a New Island Forming in the Atlantic?
    At the end of the video you actually see the new island bubble up towards the surface of the water. I assume it was new lava pushing up the land. Kinda cool.

  147. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Just remember this folks in 2012 if you realleeeeee think Obammy is gonna get neat by just anyone with an “R” behind their name…

    Romney is the man that lost to the man that lost to Obama.

    Even though you come in 2nd you still have lost.

  148. squawkbox Avatar

    Just remember this folks in 2012 if you realleeeeee think Obammy is gonna get neat by just anyone with an “R” behind their name…

    Romney is the man that lost to the man that lost to Obama.

    Even though you come in 2nd you still have lost.

  149. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Is Hammy on vacation? Didn’t he say something about going to Florida? Or has he joined an Occupy Somewhere?

  150. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Is Hammy on vacation? Didn’t he say something about going to Florida? Or has he joined an Occupy Somewhere?

  151. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #76 Squawk
    To be fair, lots of the dolts who voted for Obammy in 2008 actually know something about him now. His record is now out there for all to see.

  152. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #76 Squawk
    To be fair, lots of the dolts who voted for Obammy in 2008 actually know something about him now. His record is now out there for all to see.

  153. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    mharper42

    Uh huh. Go ahead and bookmark my comment. One of us might be eating crow. How would you like yours? Fried, baked, puree? I hear Chianti goes good with crow. 😉

  154. squawkbox Avatar

    mharper42
    Uh huh. Go ahead and bookmark my comment. One of us might be eating crow. How would you like yours? Fried, baked, puree? I hear Chianti goes good with crow. 😉

  155. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    So BSue and I have decided Ohio is off the vacation list for awhile. Mistakes could be made.

  156. squawkbox Avatar

    So BSue and I have decided Ohio is off the vacation list for awhile. Mistakes could be made.

  157. Katfish Avatar

    2nd place is the first loser.

  158. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    2nd place is the first loser.

  159. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Romney is the man that lost to the man that lost to Obama.

    Makes him want the job in the White House that much more. He’s got the Eye of the Tiger.

    Put Romney up against Obama in any debate and Romney will mop the floor with Obama. McCain couldn’t accomplish anything near that. Without Sarah Palin, he would not even have had much turnout at his campaign stops.

  160. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Romney is the man that lost to the man that lost to Obama.

    Makes him want the job in the White House that much more. He’s got the Eye of the Tiger.
    Put Romney up against Obama in any debate and Romney will mop the floor with Obama. McCain couldn’t accomplish anything near that. Without Sarah Palin, he would not even have had much turnout at his campaign stops.

  161. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    One of us might be eating crow. How would you like yours? Fried, baked, puree?

    Fried, please. 🙂

  162. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    One of us might be eating crow. How would you like yours? Fried, baked, puree?

    Fried, please. 🙂

  163. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Happy Landing: Cat Stuck on Top of Cactus Climbs Down After 3 Days

    Cute video. Now that he’s back on the ground, he should look for some mouses to eat. I’m sure he’s hungry.

    Good night all.

  164. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Happy Landing: Cat Stuck on Top of Cactus Climbs Down After 3 Days
    Cute video. Now that he’s back on the ground, he should look for some mouses to eat. I’m sure he’s hungry.
    Good night all.

  165. Tedtam Avatar

    #75 Darren

    I read a story about a family sailing in the S. Pacific who began to notice a sea of black particles surrounding their boat. It turns out that they were eyewitnesses to the birth of an island, and the small black particles was “black sand” from the volcano birthing the island. They watched the small piece of newly formed land stick itself up above sea level. However, when they went back, the waves had demolished the little island. It wasn’t built of solid magma, but of the “ash” from the volcano.

    It will be interesting to see how this baby island grows.

  166. Tedtam Avatar

    #75 Darren
    I read a story about a family sailing in the S. Pacific who began to notice a sea of black particles surrounding their boat. It turns out that they were eyewitnesses to the birth of an island, and the small black particles was “black sand” from the volcano birthing the island. They watched the small piece of newly formed land stick itself up above sea level. However, when they went back, the waves had demolished the little island. It wasn’t built of solid magma, but of the “ash” from the volcano.
    It will be interesting to see how this baby island grows.

  167. phil Avatar
    phil

    Gingrich Lectures Combative Debate Moderator Obumma Media Stooge On Rules Of War

    Now that’s more accurate.

  168. phil Avatar
    phil

    Gingrich Lectures Combative Debate Moderator Obumma Media Stooge On Rules Of War
    Now that’s more accurate.

  169. Katfish Avatar

    Looks like Squawkie is off his meds rocker again.

  170. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Looks like Squawkie is off his meds rocker again.

  171. Dooood Avatar

    Randy Newman on Austin City Limits.

    Very nice.

  172. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    Randy Newman on Austin City Limits.
    Very nice.

  173. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #17 – MsTT – ya might check out the RV & toy hauler a/c perspective – likely lots of choices

  174. Katfish Avatar

    #17 – MsTT – ya might check out the RV & toy hauler a/c perspective – likely lots of choices

  175. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    There are 12V a.c. systems for small boats that may work. They are a bit pricey. The problem is enough current to run a compressor. You will likely have to install a larger alternator and dedicated wiring.

  176. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    There are 12V a.c. systems for small boats that may work. They are a bit pricey. The problem is enough current to run a compressor. You will likely have to install a larger alternator and dedicated wiring.

  177. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #79 Squawk
    RE: Crow on the menu. I don’t like Romney, I don’t want Romney to be the candidate. But I’d still rather have the Mittman in the WH than the Obammys.

  178. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #79 Squawk
    RE: Crow on the menu. I don’t like Romney, I don’t want Romney to be the candidate. But I’d still rather have the Mittman in the WH than the Obammys.

  179. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #85 Darren
    I think it was the helicopter hovering right over his perch that motivated that cat to start climbing down.

  180. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #85 Darren
    I think it was the helicopter hovering right over his perch that motivated that cat to start climbing down.

  181. Hamous Avatar

    #55: Squawkie-tooter: I’ll bet none of those Occupy Oakland TNs stole any work boots!

  182. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #55: Squawkie-tooter: I’ll bet none of those Occupy Oakland TNs stole any work boots!

  183. Hamous Avatar

    Ball is on the tee, time for a few practice swings.

  184. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Ball is on the tee, time for a few practice swings.

  185. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #96 Bones
    T-ball, huh? I thought that was a little kid’s game.
    🙂

  186. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #96 Bones
    T-ball, huh? I thought that was a little kid’s game.
    🙂

  187. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Here’s a start toward a nice 100 setup for someone…

  188. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Here’s a start toward a nice 100 setup for someone…

  189. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Got some things to do, check back later to see if anyone took (and noticed) the 1-0-0. 🙂

  190. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Got some things to do, check back later to see if anyone took (and noticed) the 1-0-0. 🙂

  191. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Crow on the menu. I don’t like Romney, I don’t want Romney to be the candidate. But I’d still rather have the Mittman in the WH than the Obammys.

    And I would rather have Romney or even Ignatz P Shortsheet Jr. than Obama, BUT Romney as the “R” choice leaves the door wide open for an Obama comeback to 4 more years.

  192. squawkbox Avatar

    Crow on the menu. I don’t like Romney, I don’t want Romney to be the candidate. But I’d still rather have the Mittman in the WH than the Obammys.

    And I would rather have Romney or even Ignatz P Shortsheet Jr. than Obama, BUT Romney as the “R” choice leaves the door wide open for an Obama comeback to 4 more years.

  193. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    RE: 97

    MHarper – 1
    Boneface – 0, zip, nada

    That one ranks high on my “Now that was funny” list.

  194. squawkbox Avatar

    RE: 97
    MHarper – 1
    Boneface – 0, zip, nada
    That one ranks high on my “Now that was funny” list.

  195. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Put Romney up against Obama in any debate and Romney will mop the floor with Obama. McCain couldn’t accomplish anything near that. Without Sarah Palin, he would not even have had much turnout at his campaign stops.

    Romney didn’t do all that well in the debates of 2007-2008. If he had, McCain would be the man who lost to the man who lost to Obama. I don’t seen any real skill in Romney’s debating thus far. He’s been the recipient of some softball questions aimed at him by a media that wants him to be the Republican candidate, much in the same way (and for the same reasons) that they wanted McCain to be the canidate in 2008. They will not be as a kind to him in the General, and his performance will diminish.

    Put Cain in a debate against Obama and several things happen:

    1. Cain decimates him the same way he decimated Clinton over Hillary care.

    2. People in this country will see a debate between two black men, taking race—arguably Obama’s biggest asset—completely out of the calculus, meaning they can focus thier entire attention on the subject and content of the material presented, and compare the ideologies behind both, and come to a decision based largely on that.

    In the General Election, Cain also takes away Obama’s race advantage. No matter who wins the election, the black guy wins. Those in the electorate for whom race is the governing factor will stay home.

    Put Newt in a debate against Obama, and he’ll make him look like the SCOAMF that he is.

    If you want somebody who can beat Obama in a debate, you can do lots better than Romney. They’re practically on the same side.

  196. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Put Romney up against Obama in any debate and Romney will mop the floor with Obama. McCain couldn’t accomplish anything near that. Without Sarah Palin, he would not even have had much turnout at his campaign stops.

    Romney didn’t do all that well in the debates of 2007-2008. If he had, McCain would be the man who lost to the man who lost to Obama. I don’t seen any real skill in Romney’s debating thus far. He’s been the recipient of some softball questions aimed at him by a media that wants him to be the Republican candidate, much in the same way (and for the same reasons) that they wanted McCain to be the canidate in 2008. They will not be as a kind to him in the General, and his performance will diminish.
    Put Cain in a debate against Obama and several things happen:
    1. Cain decimates him the same way he decimated Clinton over Hillary care.
    2. People in this country will see a debate between two black men, taking race—arguably Obama’s biggest asset—completely out of the calculus, meaning they can focus thier entire attention on the subject and content of the material presented, and compare the ideologies behind both, and come to a decision based largely on that.
    In the General Election, Cain also takes away Obama’s race advantage. No matter who wins the election, the black guy wins. Those in the electorate for whom race is the governing factor will stay home.
    Put Newt in a debate against Obama, and he’ll make him look like the SCOAMF that he is.
    If you want somebody who can beat Obama in a debate, you can do lots better than Romney. They’re practically on the same side.

  197. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Ms TT
    re: Van AC

    Looks to me like there are 2 routes to go, install automotive style AC requiring compressors, evaporators and such- looks like a pain and pricey.

    RV style AC looks cheaper but requires 110v ac power. I saw a 15,000 BTU unit needs about 16 amp, 2000 watt service. GTO could chime in but looks like an invertor can do the job fairly cheap.

  198. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Ms TT
    re: Van AC
    Looks to me like there are 2 routes to go, install automotive style AC requiring compressors, evaporators and such- looks like a pain and pricey.
    RV style AC looks cheaper but requires 110v ac power. I saw a 15,000 BTU unit needs about 16 amp, 2000 watt service. GTO could chime in but looks like an invertor can do the job fairly cheap.

  199. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #101 Squawk

    That one ranks high

    Dude, your humor bar is really not set very high, is it? That was mildly humorous, at best. OMG, was that an affirmative action rating???
    🙂

  200. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #101 Squawk

    That one ranks high

    Dude, your humor bar is really not set very high, is it? That was mildly humorous, at best. OMG, was that an affirmative action rating???
    🙂

  201. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #102 Sarge
    Hate to disagree with you, but I don’t think most blacks will see Obammy and Cain as just any 2 black candidates. The race baiters will have them all stirred up to see Cain as not really “black like me”. So I don’t expect most will stay home as you suggest.

  202. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #102 Sarge
    Hate to disagree with you, but I don’t think most blacks will see Obammy and Cain as just any 2 black candidates. The race baiters will have them all stirred up to see Cain as not really “black like me”. So I don’t expect most will stay home as you suggest.

  203. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    #104
    MHarper

    Well ya see I am a golfer (was a golfer) and equating T-Ball with golf is F-U-N-N-Y if you have ever (and I suspect you have) watched kids play T-Ball and men play golf. It is not hard to make the leap to the reactions of men playing golf with children playing T-Ball.

    Besides it was good clean unoffensive humor and that, my dear lady, is rare in todays world.

  204. squawkbox Avatar

    #104
    MHarper
    Well ya see I am a golfer (was a golfer) and equating T-Ball with golf is F-U-N-N-Y if you have ever (and I suspect you have) watched kids play T-Ball and men play golf. It is not hard to make the leap to the reactions of men playing golf with children playing T-Ball.
    Besides it was good clean unoffensive humor and that, my dear lady, is rare in todays world.

  205. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    If you want somebody who can beat Obama in a debate, you can do lots better than Romney. They’re practically on the same side.

    And THAT is precisely why I said

    BUT Romney as the “R” choice leaves the door wide open for an Obama comeback to 4 more years.

  206. squawkbox Avatar

    If you want somebody who can beat Obama in a debate, you can do lots better than Romney. They’re practically on the same side.

    And THAT is precisely why I said

    BUT Romney as the “R” choice leaves the door wide open for an Obama comeback to 4 more years.

  207. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    The right to peaceful assembly

    Otherwise…It doesn’t matter if it is left wing or right wing. I stand behind the right of the citizens to peaceably assemble and protests their differences with the government

    I do not not when their “rights” infringes upon the domestic tranquility. The Constitution IS NOT a suicide pact nor is it a license to commit anarchy. Tell me something Simple Pimple, do you get sore from the pickets of the fence that you so dearly love to sit upon?

  208. squawkbox Avatar

    The right to peaceful assembly

    Otherwise…It doesn’t matter if it is left wing or right wing. I stand behind the right of the citizens to peaceably assemble and protests their differences with the government

    I do not not when their “rights” infringes upon the domestic tranquility. The Constitution IS NOT a suicide pact nor is it a license to commit anarchy. Tell me something Simple Pimple, do you get sore from the pickets of the fence that you so dearly love to sit upon?

  209. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    May stay on the fence but that thing sure does lean.

  210. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    May stay on the fence but that thing sure does lean.

  211. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #111
    Wow, El Gordo, is that one of your regular innanet haunts? I had to scroll through so much flesh trying to find the AC that you were presumably recommending to TT, that I gotta logout now and run my anti-virus scan. (Too late to squinch my eyes and avoid seeing all that.)

  212. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #111
    Wow, El Gordo, is that one of your regular innanet haunts? I had to scroll through so much flesh trying to find the AC that you were presumably recommending to TT, that I gotta logout now and run my anti-virus scan. (Too late to squinch my eyes and avoid seeing all that.)

  213. Tedtam Avatar

    KISS my ever-lovin’ – you know. WARNING: one bad word at the end

    Rock on!

    /waiting for this to be printed up onto leaflets and dropped all over the Occuliar sites.

  214. Tedtam Avatar

    KISS my ever-lovin’ – you know. WARNING: one bad word at the end
    Rock on!
    /waiting for this to be printed up onto leaflets and dropped all over the Occuliar sites.

  215. Tedtam Avatar

    Now that I’ve (fine-all-lee) vacuumed out my vehicle and given it a well-deserved bath, I’m off to show an apartment unit. Wish me luck.

  216. Tedtam Avatar

    Now that I’ve (fine-all-lee) vacuumed out my vehicle and given it a well-deserved bath, I’m off to show an apartment unit. Wish me luck.

  217. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    The wife went to some craft show on steroids called the Nutcracker. It has been thirty minutes now of nonstop ‘Oh look, isn’t this cute’. Now I know why they called it the nutcracker. The trauma continues….

  218. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    The wife went to some craft show on steroids called the Nutcracker. It has been thirty minutes now of nonstop ‘Oh look, isn’t this cute’. Now I know why they called it the nutcracker. The trauma continues….

  219. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    115 gto
    You’re tagging along?

  220. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    115 gto
    You’re tagging along?

  221. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    #115 gtotracker

    The trauma continues….

    Knee mail on the way 😉

  222. squawkbox Avatar

    #115 gtotracker

    The trauma continues….

    Knee mail on the way 😉

  223. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #115 goats

    The trauma continues…

    Oh, I thought he said the DRAMA continues.

  224. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #115 goats

    The trauma continues…

    Oh, I thought he said the DRAMA continues.

  225. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #23 Bones

    Lennon became a conservative before he was gunned down.

    I happened across an Iowahawk post from this summer, “John Lennon, Republican,” in which Beatle songs are rewritten to tweak that idea. The new Imagine lyrics are pretty good.

  226. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #23 Bones

    Lennon became a conservative before he was gunned down.

    I happened across an Iowahawk post from this summer, “John Lennon, Republican,” in which Beatle songs are rewritten to tweak that idea. The new Imagine lyrics are pretty good.

  227. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Good Sunday afternoon almost evening, Hamsters. Misty 62 at 6, partly cloudy and mist hung around until mid morning. Sprinklers on the lawn again all day, some of the water maybe hitting the rye seed spouse threw on the latest fill dirt in the front yard. So far the yard has needed four truckloads of topsoil for filling in low spots and likely will need another half load to finish. We aren’t doing the spreading ourselves. The squirrels are having nirvana experiences burying pecans and acorns in the new soil–it’s so easy to dig there.

    Then there’s garden soil needed for a couple of flower beds, and we can get the fall/winter pansies in the beds that won’t have sprinkler heads in them. Have to wait on those until the sprinkler system is installed. We got the bid on it in late August and decided to wait until fall to have it installed. Would imagine there is no rush of business for that this time of year.

    Mightily resisting the temptation to put out some Christmas things before Thanksgiving. However all the real pumpkins but one that decorate the place are still in good condition, and we even added two small ones from the vine growing on the compost heap. So they have to stay at least until late afternoon on Thanksgiving.

  228. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Good Sunday afternoon almost evening, Hamsters. Misty 62 at 6, partly cloudy and mist hung around until mid morning. Sprinklers on the lawn again all day, some of the water maybe hitting the rye seed spouse threw on the latest fill dirt in the front yard. So far the yard has needed four truckloads of topsoil for filling in low spots and likely will need another half load to finish. We aren’t doing the spreading ourselves. The squirrels are having nirvana experiences burying pecans and acorns in the new soil–it’s so easy to dig there.
    Then there’s garden soil needed for a couple of flower beds, and we can get the fall/winter pansies in the beds that won’t have sprinkler heads in them. Have to wait on those until the sprinkler system is installed. We got the bid on it in late August and decided to wait until fall to have it installed. Would imagine there is no rush of business for that this time of year.
    Mightily resisting the temptation to put out some Christmas things before Thanksgiving. However all the real pumpkins but one that decorate the place are still in good condition, and we even added two small ones from the vine growing on the compost heap. So they have to stay at least until late afternoon on Thanksgiving.

  229. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Here’s Iowahawk’s account of another striped-pants Republican announcing his candidacy for US President. I can’t tell if this is based on someone in particular or just a composite of RINO traits. Perhaps someone with superior knowledge and discernment, such as Texpat or Adee, can enlighten me.

  230. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Here’s Iowahawk’s account of another striped-pants Republican announcing his candidacy for US President. I can’t tell if this is based on someone in particular or just a composite of RINO traits. Perhaps someone with superior knowledge and discernment, such as Texpat or Adee, can enlighten me.

  231. Katfish Avatar

    #115 goatboy
    nutcracker = MiL = b@ll-br*&^er

  232. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #115 goatboy
    nutcracker = MiL = b@ll-br*&^er

  233. Katfish Avatar

    #122 mh42
    T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII is Iowahawk’s amalgam of Le Nouvelle Angleterre blue blood republican traits rolled into one guy.

    Think a male Olympia Snowe who talks like William F. Buckley.

  234. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #122 mh42
    T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII is Iowahawk’s amalgam of Le Nouvelle Angleterre blue blood republican traits rolled into one guy.
    Think a male Olympia Snowe who talks like William F. Buckley.

  235. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    Shannon, nope. She went there with some old friends to gal around. The recap and recurring outbursts are not as bad as suffering through the event in real time. Unless she looks and reads what I am typing.

  236. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    Shannon, nope. She went there with some old friends to gal around. The recap and recurring outbursts are not as bad as suffering through the event in real time. Unless she looks and reads what I am typing.

  237. Hamous Avatar

    #115 GTO: one year about 10 or so ago, my wife took my 2 kids, (her step kids) to the nutcracker, I did not attend. In the middle of it my daughter, Heartcrusher, said to my wife, “next year we should get Daddy to come” and my wife correctly responded “Heartcrusher, your daddy would much rather be gutting a deer than watching this ballet”. God I love that woman.

  238. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #115 GTO: one year about 10 or so ago, my wife took my 2 kids, (her step kids) to the nutcracker, I did not attend. In the middle of it my daughter, Heartcrusher, said to my wife, “next year we should get Daddy to come” and my wife correctly responded “Heartcrusher, your daddy would much rather be gutting a deer than watching this ballet”. God I love that woman.

  239. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    I think the Walking Dead starts in a few. That ought to clear the room.

  240. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    I think the Walking Dead starts in a few. That ought to clear the room.

  241. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    108 Seagull,

    Fence post sitting leaves me no worse tor the wear than gull guamo that you are spreading tonight. The cops are closing down the “Occupy” encampments because they have become sanitation problems and crime hot spots. Seems fair to me. The cities waited a sufficent amount of time for the protestors to get their word out to the public and are closing them down to protect THEM from their own folly. Leaving them in the squalid conditions of the makeshift camps would have been worse.

    Other than that…how is it going old bean?

    Simple

  242. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    108 Seagull,
    Fence post sitting leaves me no worse tor the wear than gull guamo that you are spreading tonight. The cops are closing down the “Occupy” encampments because they have become sanitation problems and crime hot spots. Seems fair to me. The cities waited a sufficent amount of time for the protestors to get their word out to the public and are closing them down to protect THEM from their own folly. Leaving them in the squalid conditions of the makeshift camps would have been worse.
    Other than that…how is it going old bean?
    Simple

  243. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Simple

    Other than that…how is it going old bean?

    Pretty fair actually. Hope ya have a great holiday season. Ya goin anywhere or gonna let the family come to you. 🙂

  244. squawkbox Avatar

    Simple

    Other than that…how is it going old bean?

    Pretty fair actually. Hope ya have a great holiday season. Ya goin anywhere or gonna let the family come to you. 🙂

  245. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Tedtam #86;

    Neat.

  246. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Tedtam #86;
    Neat.

  247. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Sarge;

    Romney didn’t do all that well in the debates of 2007-2008. If he had, McCain would be the man who lost to the man who lost to Obama.

    Romney did great in those debates. Romney losing to McCain was NOT due to Romney’s lack of debating skills. Had you placed Romney up against Obama after the GOP nomination, you would have seen Romney own Obama in all the debates; not who can establish the bigger government to save the housing market.

    I don’t seen any real skill in Romney’s debating thus far.

    Then you haven’t been watching.

  248. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Sarge;

    Romney didn’t do all that well in the debates of 2007-2008. If he had, McCain would be the man who lost to the man who lost to Obama.

    Romney did great in those debates. Romney losing to McCain was NOT due to Romney’s lack of debating skills. Had you placed Romney up against Obama after the GOP nomination, you would have seen Romney own Obama in all the debates; not who can establish the bigger government to save the housing market.

    I don’t seen any real skill in Romney’s debating thus far.

    Then you haven’t been watching.

  249. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    In the General Election, Cain also takes away Obama’s race advantage.

    That’s a joke.

  250. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    In the General Election, Cain also takes away Obama’s race advantage.

    That’s a joke.

  251. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Then you haven’t been watching.

    Yah. You’ve been looking over my shoulder, so you can say that’s the truth.

    Obamney is nothing more than Obama lite. he’s the Republican the media would like to see win if Obama has to lose.

    He makes non-answers to the non-questions media liberals (but I repeat myself) like Scott Pelley and Anderson Cooper ask him. His only real skill is talking out of three sides of his mouth and being able to flip flop at the speed of light.

    If he was any more of a light weight, he’d be floating 4 inches above the stage at those debates.

  252. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Then you haven’t been watching.

    Yah. You’ve been looking over my shoulder, so you can say that’s the truth.
    Obamney is nothing more than Obama lite. he’s the Republican the media would like to see win if Obama has to lose.
    He makes non-answers to the non-questions media liberals (but I repeat myself) like Scott Pelley and Anderson Cooper ask him. His only real skill is talking out of three sides of his mouth and being able to flip flop at the speed of light.
    If he was any more of a light weight, he’d be floating 4 inches above the stage at those debates.

  253. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    You want to see a real answer to a question asked by the clowns who moderate these debates? One you can actually be proud of? An answer you’d stand behind and could actually cheer about?

    Watch this and then show me something Obamney did that’s just as good.

  254. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    You want to see a real answer to a question asked by the clowns who moderate these debates? One you can actually be proud of? An answer you’d stand behind and could actually cheer about?
    Watch this and then show me something Obamney did that’s just as good.

  255. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Debates Debates Debates. BAH!!!!!

    Unlike a financial prospectus, politicians past performance is indicative of future performance.

    Romney may well be a masterdebator but he has one great big stinking skunk hanging around his neck that he has yet to answer for. ROMNEYCARE aka Obamacare and conservatives know it. He also has a record just as Obammy does. THAT alone leaves the door wide open for Obama 2012-2016. In my opinion I would rather see a strong CONSERVATIVE “R” led Congress and Senate than more Obammylite sitting in the White House.

  256. squawkbox Avatar

    Debates Debates Debates. BAH!!!!!
    Unlike a financial prospectus, politicians past performance is indicative of future performance.
    Romney may well be a masterdebator but he has one great big stinking skunk hanging around his neck that he has yet to answer for. ROMNEYCARE aka Obamacare and conservatives know it. He also has a record just as Obammy does. THAT alone leaves the door wide open for Obama 2012-2016. In my opinion I would rather see a strong CONSERVATIVE “R” led Congress and Senate than more Obammylite sitting in the White House.

  257. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    and are closing them down to protect THEM from their own folly

    Didn’t you see them vandalizing/ I saw them vandalizing. Didn’t you see them vandalizing? “Protection” goes way beyond them.

  258. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    and are closing them down to protect THEM from their own folly

    Didn’t you see them vandalizing/ I saw them vandalizing. Didn’t you see them vandalizing? “Protection” goes way beyond them.

  259. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Romney may well be a masterdebator but he has one great big stinking skunk hanging around his neck that he has yet to answer for. ROMNEYCARE aka Obamacare and conservatives know it. He also has a record just as Obammy does. THAT alone leaves the door wide open for Obama 2012-2016. In my opinion I would rather see a strong CONSERVATIVE “R” led Congress and Senate than more Obammylite sitting in the White House.

    And the National Association for Gun Rights has a flier they want you to look at.

    No Governor who signs a bill to premanently ban any kind of firearm in his state will ever get my vote.

    Never.

    I don’t care who he’s running against.

  260. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Romney may well be a masterdebator but he has one great big stinking skunk hanging around his neck that he has yet to answer for. ROMNEYCARE aka Obamacare and conservatives know it. He also has a record just as Obammy does. THAT alone leaves the door wide open for Obama 2012-2016. In my opinion I would rather see a strong CONSERVATIVE “R” led Congress and Senate than more Obammylite sitting in the White House.

    And the National Association for Gun Rights has a flier they want you to look at.
    No Governor who signs a bill to premanently ban any kind of firearm in his state will ever get my vote.
    Never.
    I don’t care who he’s running against.

  261. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    And the Republican Party had better seriously look at that aspect of Romney’s former life as a moderate.

    If they want enthusiastic support and feet on the ground in GOTV efforts, don’t tell us to compromise on our Gun Rights.

    Don’t trot out in front of us a poltician who should be punished for stomping on Gun Rights by rewarding him with the most powerful office in the nation just because its his friggin turn, has nice hair, and answers the questions the liberals toss his way withotu slobbering all over himself.

  262. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    And the Republican Party had better seriously look at that aspect of Romney’s former life as a moderate.
    If they want enthusiastic support and feet on the ground in GOTV efforts, don’t tell us to compromise on our Gun Rights.
    Don’t trot out in front of us a poltician who should be punished for stomping on Gun Rights by rewarding him with the most powerful office in the nation just because its his friggin turn, has nice hair, and answers the questions the liberals toss his way withotu slobbering all over himself.

  263. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    And Darren;

    The reason why you don’t know Obamney’s record on Gun Control ios because those clowns moderating these debates don’t ask your hero the kinds of questions that are of concern to Conservative voters, especially Gun Rights advocates.

  264. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    And Darren;
    The reason why you don’t know Obamney’s record on Gun Control ios because those clowns moderating these debates don’t ask your hero the kinds of questions that are of concern to Conservative voters, especially Gun Rights advocates.

  265. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #112 – Sorry about that. I thought I had isolated the photo before I marked the link, but apparently it reverted back to the page the photo was on.

    #122 – Iowahawk’s Van Cottington character is William F. Buckley’s son who was the heir apparent to National Review upon the senior Buckley’s death. Unfortunately for him, he posted an article favoring the election of BO and was summarily dismissed from the staff of the National Review. Iowahawk nails him perfectly, and if you get a chance, go back and read some of the earlier Van Cottington posts. If you aren’t up on your current events, you’ll miss a lot when reading Iowahawk.

  266. El Gordo Avatar

    #112 – Sorry about that. I thought I had isolated the photo before I marked the link, but apparently it reverted back to the page the photo was on.
    #122 – Iowahawk’s Van Cottington character is William F. Buckley’s son who was the heir apparent to National Review upon the senior Buckley’s death. Unfortunately for him, he posted an article favoring the election of BO and was summarily dismissed from the staff of the National Review. Iowahawk nails him perfectly, and if you get a chance, go back and read some of the earlier Van Cottington posts. If you aren’t up on your current events, you’ll miss a lot when reading Iowahawk.

  267. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Yah. You’ve been looking over my shoulder, so you can say that’s the truth.

    It’s based on your quote. nothing more.

    On auto bailouts

    Also, although I’ve seen the following video clip, I cannot currently find it:

    “You have to let the market work and get people in homes, and the best thing to do is to allow this economy to reboot,” Romney said.

    Asked what that meant for those underwater with their mortgages, Romney threw the question back to the moderators.

    “What would you do instead? Would you like to have the federal government go around and buy all the homes in America” he asked. The reason we have the housing crisis we have is that the federal government played too heavy a role in our markets.”v A longstanding leading candidate in the GOP race, Romney faced a barrage of criticism on Oct. 18 — the day of the last presidential debate — when he said the government shouldn’t interfere when homeowners are in trouble.

    Romney doubles-down on staying out of foreclosures

    That report is precisely the context of the clip I saw.

    Now, as for Gingrich, that was masterfully done. I praised him on Breitbart for it and so far I’ve received a -1 voting on my post. 🙁

  268. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Yah. You’ve been looking over my shoulder, so you can say that’s the truth.

    It’s based on your quote. nothing more.
    On auto bailouts
    Also, although I’ve seen the following video clip, I cannot currently find it:

    “You have to let the market work and get people in homes, and the best thing to do is to allow this economy to reboot,” Romney said.
    Asked what that meant for those underwater with their mortgages, Romney threw the question back to the moderators.
    “What would you do instead? Would you like to have the federal government go around and buy all the homes in America” he asked. The reason we have the housing crisis we have is that the federal government played too heavy a role in our markets.”v A longstanding leading candidate in the GOP race, Romney faced a barrage of criticism on Oct. 18 — the day of the last presidential debate — when he said the government shouldn’t interfere when homeowners are in trouble.

    Romney doubles-down on staying out of foreclosures
    That report is precisely the context of the clip I saw.
    Now, as for Gingrich, that was masterfully done. I praised him on Breitbart for it and so far I’ve received a -1 voting on my post. 🙁

  269. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    these debates don’t ask your hero the kinds of questions

    My hero is my father. Please don’t insult his memory by replacing him with anyone else. There is plenty of criticism towards Romney. I myself have offered criticism more than once on this very website regarding Romney. gun rights is one legtimiate pioint of concern over Romney but his debating skills is not. Besides, I do not think Romney will restrict gun rights at the federal level. If anything, he’s advocating protecting them.

  270. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    these debates don’t ask your hero the kinds of questions

    My hero is my father. Please don’t insult his memory by replacing him with anyone else. There is plenty of criticism towards Romney. I myself have offered criticism more than once on this very website regarding Romney. gun rights is one legtimiate pioint of concern over Romney but his debating skills is not. Besides, I do not think Romney will restrict gun rights at the federal level. If anything, he’s advocating protecting them.

  271. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #124 Pyro
    Thanks for the clarification. Google turned up more references to Iowahawk’s T. Coddington creature.

  272. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #124 Pyro
    Thanks for the clarification. Google turned up more references to Iowahawk’s T. Coddington creature.

  273. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    No Governor who signs a bill to premanently ban any kind of firearm in his state will ever get my vote.

    I guess then it’s a skip the box or a third party vote this next November when it’s between Romney and Obama. Good luck with that.

  274. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    No Governor who signs a bill to premanently ban any kind of firearm in his state will ever get my vote.

    I guess then it’s a skip the box or a third party vote this next November when it’s between Romney and Obama. Good luck with that.

  275. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    And #140 EG, your account matches my sense that there might be some real person who was being caricatured in the T.Coddington pieces. There will never be enough free time for me to stay current on New England Republicans.

  276. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    And #140 EG, your account matches my sense that there might be some real person who was being caricatured in the T.Coddington pieces. There will never be enough free time for me to stay current on New England Republicans.

  277. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Squawk #135;

    Romney may well be a masterdebator but he has one great big stinking skunk hanging around his neck that he has yet to answer for. ROMNEYCARE aka Obamacare and conservatives know it.

    Yes, and I’ve always encouraged folks to express their discontent for Romneycare which is an atrocity. Though I still say that Romney will not mandate healthcare at the federal level. At the very most, he may support *some* mandate (though he’d be very stupid to support any form of healthcare mandate) but not at all like the kind we received from Obama and the people of MA from Romney. But, as you said, a conservative Senate (already controlling the House) would very likely shoot that one down.

    THAT alone leaves the door wide open for Obama 2012-2016.

    Not really.

    LAS VEGAS — President Obama frequently showers sardonic praise on Mitt Romney for the health care law he signed in Massachusetts, calling it a model for the national plan. On Saturday, Mr. Romney offered a new retort, saying: “If that’s the case, why didn’t you call me?”

    Simple yet very effective.

  278. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Squawk #135;

    Romney may well be a masterdebator but he has one great big stinking skunk hanging around his neck that he has yet to answer for. ROMNEYCARE aka Obamacare and conservatives know it.

    Yes, and I’ve always encouraged folks to express their discontent for Romneycare which is an atrocity. Though I still say that Romney will not mandate healthcare at the federal level. At the very most, he may support *some* mandate (though he’d be very stupid to support any form of healthcare mandate) but not at all like the kind we received from Obama and the people of MA from Romney. But, as you said, a conservative Senate (already controlling the House) would very likely shoot that one down.

    THAT alone leaves the door wide open for Obama 2012-2016.

    Not really.

    LAS VEGAS — President Obama frequently showers sardonic praise on Mitt Romney for the health care law he signed in Massachusetts, calling it a model for the national plan. On Saturday, Mr. Romney offered a new retort, saying: “If that’s the case, why didn’t you call me?”

    Simple yet very effective.

  279. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    It’s based on your quote. nothing more.

    Its based on your support of Obamney, nothing more.

    My hero is my father. Please don’t insult his memory by replacing him with anyone else. There is plenty of criticism towards Romney. I myself have offered criticism more than once on this very website regarding Romney. gun rights is one legtimiate pioint of concern over Romney but his debating skills is not. Besides, I do not think Romney will restrict gun rights at the federal level. If anything, he’s advocating protecting them.

    Yah.

    “I know I signed a law that allows biker gangs to rape nurses in my state, but I promise I won’t do it at the Federal level.”

    I’m not voting for any candidate based on thier debating skills, particularly when the questiosn being asked aren’t the ones I, and a lot of other people, wouldn’t ask.

    I’m voting based on past performance. The guy who signed a law banning any kind of weapon in his state does not get rewarded. Period. Because when you reward guys like that—when you promote them to higher office—all they’ve ;earned is gthat they can get away with it as long as he answers Anderson Cooper’s questions with a smile on his face.

  280. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    It’s based on your quote. nothing more.

    Its based on your support of Obamney, nothing more.

    My hero is my father. Please don’t insult his memory by replacing him with anyone else. There is plenty of criticism towards Romney. I myself have offered criticism more than once on this very website regarding Romney. gun rights is one legtimiate pioint of concern over Romney but his debating skills is not. Besides, I do not think Romney will restrict gun rights at the federal level. If anything, he’s advocating protecting them.

    Yah.
    “I know I signed a law that allows biker gangs to rape nurses in my state, but I promise I won’t do it at the Federal level.”
    I’m not voting for any candidate based on thier debating skills, particularly when the questiosn being asked aren’t the ones I, and a lot of other people, wouldn’t ask.
    I’m voting based on past performance. The guy who signed a law banning any kind of weapon in his state does not get rewarded. Period. Because when you reward guys like that—when you promote them to higher office—all they’ve ;earned is gthat they can get away with it as long as he answers Anderson Cooper’s questions with a smile on his face.

  281. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Saying that Romney has been skillful in the debates I’ve seen thus far is like telling me that Micheal Moore was skillfull in a debate where Chaz Bono has been asking the questions.

  282. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Saying that Romney has been skillful in the debates I’ve seen thus far is like telling me that Micheal Moore was skillfull in a debate where Chaz Bono has been asking the questions.

  283. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Though I still say that Romney will not mandate healthcare at the federal level. At the very most, he may support *some* mandate (though he’d be very stupid to support any form of healthcare mandate) but not at all like the kind we received from Obama and the people of MA from Romney

    Apparently you missed my now famous observation on political figurines

    Unlike a financial prospectus, politicians past performance is indicative of future performance.

    That is an undeniable truth. A pig with lipstick is still a pig, a leopard cannot change his spots, a snake is still a snake. What Romney has been in the past he will be again. And as Sarge pointed out above on guns, Romney has a record of monkeying with basic freedoms, he believes the government should provide (fill in the blank) he is one step more left than Bushco’s compassionate (puke) conservatism. Romney will not kill Obamacare he will “try to fix it” I do not care what he has said in recent months. And you know why he will try to fix it? Because their are too many “R”s in office that when all is stripped away form them do not want to do away with Obamacare. Have I talked to you lately about Boehnerco?

  284. squawkbox Avatar

    Though I still say that Romney will not mandate healthcare at the federal level. At the very most, he may support *some* mandate (though he’d be very stupid to support any form of healthcare mandate) but not at all like the kind we received from Obama and the people of MA from Romney

    Apparently you missed my now famous observation on political figurines

    Unlike a financial prospectus, politicians past performance is indicative of future performance.

    That is an undeniable truth. A pig with lipstick is still a pig, a leopard cannot change his spots, a snake is still a snake. What Romney has been in the past he will be again. And as Sarge pointed out above on guns, Romney has a record of monkeying with basic freedoms, he believes the government should provide (fill in the blank) he is one step more left than Bushco’s compassionate (puke) conservatism. Romney will not kill Obamacare he will “try to fix it” I do not care what he has said in recent months. And you know why he will try to fix it? Because their are too many “R”s in office that when all is stripped away form them do not want to do away with Obamacare. Have I talked to you lately about Boehnerco?

  285. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Such an incursion might have been unthinkable only a few years ago. But Kaskade, who was voted America’s best D.J. for 2011 by D.J. Times and Pioneer D.J., is at the crest of a transformative wave of electronic music acts, alongside megastar D.J.’s like Deadmau5, who headlined Lollapalooza in August, and Skrillex, the 23-year-old dubstep wunderkind, who collaborated with Kaskade on the new track “Lick It.”

    (snip)

    A recreational snowboarder with a soul patch, Mr. Raddon has an easygoing manner at odds with his high-octane output. His new double album embraces the schism. “Fire” consists of 10 up-tempo dance tracks. On “Ice,” he remixes the same tracks as sedate wind-down music: what you might listen to, he suggested, while driving home post-gig, sweaty and elated.

    I grew up with this DJ phenomenon named Ryan Raddon. I went to church with him and his father was my bishop for a few years (he could not stand my music nor the music Ryan played at home 😉 ). I had early morning seminary in his basement where his mother taught us. They were all a great family. After making fun of me for listening to rock and heavy metal, I used to make fun of him for his house music taste. Guess he now has the last laugh, eh? Good for him.

    He grew up in Northbrook, Ill., a suburb of Chicago, and before he could drive he was soaking in the city’s growing house-music scene. “I had to be home within 30 minutes of it ending,” he recalled. “We’d go to the club and then hang out a little bit afterwards at Dunkin Donuts.”

    In 1989, hoping to meet other Mormons his age, Mr. Raddon enrolled at Brigham Young University. But his love of club music (he had a turntable and a crate of vinyl in his dorm) set him apart. “Everyone was like, ‘Who is this weird kid from Chicago?,’ ” he said.

    At 19, he went to Japan as a Mormon missionary and two years later transferred to the University of Utah (his grades at B.Y.U. weren’t so hot), where he soon met his wife, Naomi, a fellow snowboarder. In Salt Lake City, he ran a record store called Mechanized. Not long after, in 1995, he started D.J.-ing his first weekly party, Monday nights at a basement venue called Club Manhattan. He used his earnings to buy studio gear.

    The investment payed off.

    “I think that’s part of the popularization of the genre,” Mr. Raddon said. “Ten years ago, we tried to take the brownies out too early. It’s been in the oven. It’s cooked long enough. It’s ready now.”

    I’ve no idea what he meant by that but, ummm, OK. 🙂

    How Ryan Raddon Became the $200,000-a-Night D.J. Known as Kaskade

  286. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Such an incursion might have been unthinkable only a few years ago. But Kaskade, who was voted America’s best D.J. for 2011 by D.J. Times and Pioneer D.J., is at the crest of a transformative wave of electronic music acts, alongside megastar D.J.’s like Deadmau5, who headlined Lollapalooza in August, and Skrillex, the 23-year-old dubstep wunderkind, who collaborated with Kaskade on the new track “Lick It.”

    (snip)

    A recreational snowboarder with a soul patch, Mr. Raddon has an easygoing manner at odds with his high-octane output. His new double album embraces the schism. “Fire” consists of 10 up-tempo dance tracks. On “Ice,” he remixes the same tracks as sedate wind-down music: what you might listen to, he suggested, while driving home post-gig, sweaty and elated.

    I grew up with this DJ phenomenon named Ryan Raddon. I went to church with him and his father was my bishop for a few years (he could not stand my music nor the music Ryan played at home 😉 ). I had early morning seminary in his basement where his mother taught us. They were all a great family. After making fun of me for listening to rock and heavy metal, I used to make fun of him for his house music taste. Guess he now has the last laugh, eh? Good for him.

    He grew up in Northbrook, Ill., a suburb of Chicago, and before he could drive he was soaking in the city’s growing house-music scene. “I had to be home within 30 minutes of it ending,” he recalled. “We’d go to the club and then hang out a little bit afterwards at Dunkin Donuts.”
    In 1989, hoping to meet other Mormons his age, Mr. Raddon enrolled at Brigham Young University. But his love of club music (he had a turntable and a crate of vinyl in his dorm) set him apart. “Everyone was like, ‘Who is this weird kid from Chicago?,’ ” he said.
    At 19, he went to Japan as a Mormon missionary and two years later transferred to the University of Utah (his grades at B.Y.U. weren’t so hot), where he soon met his wife, Naomi, a fellow snowboarder. In Salt Lake City, he ran a record store called Mechanized. Not long after, in 1995, he started D.J.-ing his first weekly party, Monday nights at a basement venue called Club Manhattan. He used his earnings to buy studio gear.

    The investment payed off.

    “I think that’s part of the popularization of the genre,” Mr. Raddon said. “Ten years ago, we tried to take the brownies out too early. It’s been in the oven. It’s cooked long enough. It’s ready now.”

    I’ve no idea what he meant by that but, ummm, OK. 🙂
    How Ryan Raddon Became the $200,000-a-Night D.J. Known as Kaskade

  287. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Romney is not debating.

    He’s playing political T Ball and his family is in the bleachers telling us he’s World Series bound.

    Obamney is the Ultimate Republican, the best advocate for Smaller Big Government they’ve got.

    You. Do. Not. Reward. A Governor. Who. Signs. Gun. Ban. Bills.

    Ever.

  288. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Romney is not debating.
    He’s playing political T Ball and his family is in the bleachers telling us he’s World Series bound.
    Obamney is the Ultimate Republican, the best advocate for Smaller Big Government they’ve got.
    You. Do. Not. Reward. A Governor. Who. Signs. Gun. Ban. Bills.
    Ever.

  289. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Sarge;

    “I know I signed a law that allows biker gangs to rape nurses in my state, but I promise I won’t do it at the Federal level.”

    Absolutely absurd. I’m done speaking to you regarding this topic.

  290. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Sarge;

    “I know I signed a law that allows biker gangs to rape nurses in my state, but I promise I won’t do it at the Federal level.”

    Absolutely absurd. I’m done speaking to you regarding this topic.

  291. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Squawk;

    Unlike a financial prospectus, politicians past performance is indicative of future performance.

    I did catch that and you’ve said as much in past posts regarding Romney. You make a very good point but I do not think Romney will continue healthcare mandates at the federal level. States may do so on the state level; that’s not unconstitutional; but it is at the federal level and I think Romney will respect that.

    And as Sarge pointed out above on guns, Romney has a record of monkeying with basic freedoms, Romney has a record of monkeying with basic freedoms, he believes the government should provide (fill in the blank) he is one step more left than Bushco’s compassionate (puke) conservatism.

    This again goes back to states’ rights. There is nothing [inherently] unconstitutional about banning guns at the state level. It is VERY unconstitutional on the federal level. Like healthcare, I think Romney will respect this difference. He advocates gun rights and I think he’ll follow up on that.

    I’ve no problem whatsoever ridiculing Romney for past state-wide leglislative support. In fact, I think it’s good to ridicule him. It’s very healthy that he and others, especially in the GOP, know about discontent among Conservatives. It’s fair to say that he did it in the past and so he’ll do it in the future at the federal level but I simply do not think he will.

    And you know why he will try to fix it? Because their are too many “R”s in office that when all is stripped away form them do not want to do away with Obamacare. Have I talked to you lately about Boehnerco?

    He’ll repeal it. He says he will and I completely trust that he will. The question is what Romney will do when future legislation is brought up before Congress which may call for other mandates. “Better” mandates. That’s where I think it’s vague as to where Romney will lean towards. I support all opposition to all healthcare mandates. But others may not. Even here you’ve read some who support some mandates. I say all open the doors to government takeover of healthcare.

    If by “Boehnerco” you mean Boehner, I think he’s an embarrassment to the GOP and I was very much against him becoming Speaker of the House.

  292. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Squawk;

    Unlike a financial prospectus, politicians past performance is indicative of future performance.

    I did catch that and you’ve said as much in past posts regarding Romney. You make a very good point but I do not think Romney will continue healthcare mandates at the federal level. States may do so on the state level; that’s not unconstitutional; but it is at the federal level and I think Romney will respect that.

    And as Sarge pointed out above on guns, Romney has a record of monkeying with basic freedoms, Romney has a record of monkeying with basic freedoms, he believes the government should provide (fill in the blank) he is one step more left than Bushco’s compassionate (puke) conservatism.

    This again goes back to states’ rights. There is nothing [inherently] unconstitutional about banning guns at the state level. It is VERY unconstitutional on the federal level. Like healthcare, I think Romney will respect this difference. He advocates gun rights and I think he’ll follow up on that.
    I’ve no problem whatsoever ridiculing Romney for past state-wide leglislative support. In fact, I think it’s good to ridicule him. It’s very healthy that he and others, especially in the GOP, know about discontent among Conservatives. It’s fair to say that he did it in the past and so he’ll do it in the future at the federal level but I simply do not think he will.

    And you know why he will try to fix it? Because their are too many “R”s in office that when all is stripped away form them do not want to do away with Obamacare. Have I talked to you lately about Boehnerco?

    He’ll repeal it. He says he will and I completely trust that he will. The question is what Romney will do when future legislation is brought up before Congress which may call for other mandates. “Better” mandates. That’s where I think it’s vague as to where Romney will lean towards. I support all opposition to all healthcare mandates. But others may not. Even here you’ve read some who support some mandates. I say all open the doors to government takeover of healthcare.
    If by “Boehnerco” you mean Boehner, I think he’s an embarrassment to the GOP and I was very much against him becoming Speaker of the House.

  293. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Unions and OWS openly together at last: “Day of Action” planned for next week

    Three major national unions plan to join members of the Occupy Wall Street movement for “We are the 99 percent” protests next Thursday. The AFL-CIO, the Service Employees International Union and the Laborers’ International Union of North America are eager to piggyback on the press of OWS — all to call for increased infrastructure spending. MoveOn.org and the American Dream Movement also plan to join the party.

    Who saw that coming?

  294. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Unions and OWS openly together at last: “Day of Action” planned for next week

    Three major national unions plan to join members of the Occupy Wall Street movement for “We are the 99 percent” protests next Thursday. The AFL-CIO, the Service Employees International Union and the Laborers’ International Union of North America are eager to piggyback on the press of OWS — all to call for increased infrastructure spending. MoveOn.org and the American Dream Movement also plan to join the party.

    Who saw that coming?

  295. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Police evicted the Occupy Salt Lake City protesters who had made Utah’s Pioneer Park their campsite, arresting 19 people Saturday who refused to comply.

    Despite the arrests, the protesters’ removal was peaceful and no incidents of violence were reported, and city sanitation crews arrived to clear debris from the park — with a bulldozer.

    Protesters were ordered to vacate after a man was found dead in his tent at the encampment Friday, apparently due to carbon monoxide poisoning and a drug overdose.

    That’s the way to do it, Oakland and other US cities.

    Want to See a Bulldozer Take Down the Occupy Salt Lake City Camp?

  296. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Police evicted the Occupy Salt Lake City protesters who had made Utah’s Pioneer Park their campsite, arresting 19 people Saturday who refused to comply.
    Despite the arrests, the protesters’ removal was peaceful and no incidents of violence were reported, and city sanitation crews arrived to clear debris from the park — with a bulldozer.
    Protesters were ordered to vacate after a man was found dead in his tent at the encampment Friday, apparently due to carbon monoxide poisoning and a drug overdose.

    That’s the way to do it, Oakland and other US cities.
    Want to See a Bulldozer Take Down the Occupy Salt Lake City Camp?

  297. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Absolutely absurd. I’m done speaking to you regarding this topic.

    All you’ve done there is tell me which Constitutionally Guaranteed Right is unimportant to you.

    Because the principal is EXACTLY the same.

  298. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Absolutely absurd. I’m done speaking to you regarding this topic.

    All you’ve done there is tell me which Constitutionally Guaranteed Right is unimportant to you.
    Because the principal is EXACTLY the same.

  299. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Darren.

    He signed a law banning semi auto-matic weapons.

  300. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Darren.
    He signed a law banning semi auto-matic weapons.

  301. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Darren
    You said

    I do not think Romney will continue healthcare mandates at the federal level.
    I think Romney will respect this difference.
    I simply do not think he will
    I completely trust that he will.

    Heh

    Read my Lips. NO NEW TAXES
    Bush #1

    The Scorpion and the Frog

    A scorpion and a frog meet on the bank of a stream and the scorpion asks the frog to carry him across on its back. The frog asks, “How do I know you won’t sting me?” The scorpion says, “Because if I do, I will die too.”

    The frog is satisfied, and they set out, but in midstream, the scorpion stings the frog. The frog feels the onset of paralysis and starts to sink, knowing they both will drown, but has just enough time to gasp “Why?”

    Replies the scorpion: “Its my nature…”

  302. squawkbox Avatar

    Darren
    You said

    I do not think Romney will continue healthcare mandates at the federal level.
    I think Romney will respect this difference.
    I simply do not think he will
    I completely trust that he will.

    Heh

    Read my Lips. NO NEW TAXES
    Bush #1

    The Scorpion and the Frog
    A scorpion and a frog meet on the bank of a stream and the scorpion asks the frog to carry him across on its back. The frog asks, “How do I know you won’t sting me?” The scorpion says, “Because if I do, I will die too.”
    The frog is satisfied, and they set out, but in midstream, the scorpion stings the frog. The frog feels the onset of paralysis and starts to sink, knowing they both will drown, but has just enough time to gasp “Why?”
    Replies the scorpion: “Its my nature…”

  303. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Darren
    Before I hit the sack, be careful not to be the frog.

  304. squawkbox Avatar

    Darren
    Before I hit the sack, be careful not to be the frog.

  305. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    I don’t think that Romney is the best choice out of the current slate of potential Republican nominees. I also don’t thinks he’s the worst. He has lots of baggage – as do most of the others.

    The problem with Romney is that he is actually Joe Straus in disguise. (and thus the anti-christ)

    Even so, with all his faults he’s a far sight better than the current resident of the White House.

  306. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    I don’t think that Romney is the best choice out of the current slate of potential Republican nominees. I also don’t thinks he’s the worst. He has lots of baggage – as do most of the others.
    The problem with Romney is that he is actually Joe Straus in disguise. (and thus the anti-christ)
    Even so, with all his faults he’s a far sight better than the current resident of the White House.

  307. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    This again goes back to states’ rights. There is nothing [inherently] unconstitutional about banning guns at the state level. It is VERY unconstitutional on the federal level. Like healthcare, I think Romney will respect this difference. He advocates gun rights and I think he’ll follow up on that.

    SCOTUS disagrees with you.

    But, if the voters of Massachusetts rewarded Romney for his signing a gun ban, then he should try to get re-elected Governor of Massachusetts.

    Because now everybody in the country gets to look at his signature on that bill and decide if they want to reward him for it.

  308. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    This again goes back to states’ rights. There is nothing [inherently] unconstitutional about banning guns at the state level. It is VERY unconstitutional on the federal level. Like healthcare, I think Romney will respect this difference. He advocates gun rights and I think he’ll follow up on that.

    SCOTUS disagrees with you.
    But, if the voters of Massachusetts rewarded Romney for his signing a gun ban, then he should try to get re-elected Governor of Massachusetts.
    Because now everybody in the country gets to look at his signature on that bill and decide if they want to reward him for it.

  309. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Even so, with all his faults he’s a far sight better than the current resident of the White House.

    Oh goody once again the lesser of two evils vote huh? Gosh I just cannot wait. Whoohoo.

  310. squawkbox Avatar

    Even so, with all his faults he’s a far sight better than the current resident of the White House.

    Oh goody once again the lesser of two evils vote huh? Gosh I just cannot wait. Whoohoo.

  311. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    #153 Darren:

    There is nothing [inherently] unconstitutional about banning guns at the state level.

    Uh, dude, it’s called the 2nd Amendment.

    The supremacy clause of the Constitution means that Amendments are binding on States as well as the Federal Government.

  312. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    #153 Darren:

    There is nothing [inherently] unconstitutional about banning guns at the state level.

    Uh, dude, it’s called the 2nd Amendment.
    The supremacy clause of the Constitution means that Amendments are binding on States as well as the Federal Government.

  313. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    The problem with Romney is that he is actually Joe Straus in disguise. (and thus the anti-christ)

    That schitck is getting about as worn out as a salted jelly fish laying on a flat rock outside Amarillio in July.

  314. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    The problem with Romney is that he is actually Joe Straus in disguise. (and thus the anti-christ)

    That schitck is getting about as worn out as a salted jelly fish laying on a flat rock outside Amarillio in July.

  315. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    Squawk, I don’t like it either. I’ll probably end up holding my nose while voting. But that’s the system we have.

  316. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    Squawk, I don’t like it either. I’ll probably end up holding my nose while voting. But that’s the system we have.

  317. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Even so, with all his faults he’s a far sight better not much different than the current resident of the White House.

    The difference between Romney and Obama where it comes to entitlements, abortion, gun rights, and socialized medicine is about as much as as the difference between a coral snake and a cottonmouth.

    One will kill you quicker.

  318. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Even so, with all his faults he’s a far sight better not much different than the current resident of the White House.

    The difference between Romney and Obama where it comes to entitlements, abortion, gun rights, and socialized medicine is about as much as as the difference between a coral snake and a cottonmouth.
    One will kill you quicker.

  319. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    165 fat albert says:

    November 13, 2011 at 10:43 pm

    Squawk, I don’t like it either. I’ll probably end up holding my nose while voting. But that’s the system we have.

    The problem with that system is that it never gives us a candidate we’re willing to get out into the streets and fight for.

  320. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    165 fat albert says:
    November 13, 2011 at 10:43 pm
    Squawk, I don’t like it either. I’ll probably end up holding my nose while voting. But that’s the system we have.

    The problem with that system is that it never gives us a candidate we’re willing to get out into the streets and fight for.

  321. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    And in this case, its giving me one I have a reason to get out into the streets and fight against.

  322. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    And in this case, its giving me one I have a reason to get out into the streets and fight against.

  323. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Well here is my bottom line observation about the mess our country finds itself in. We are in deep trouble. More than we here are even willing to admit. What is insane to me is that we are still looking to the same institutions to fix this mess that messed this stuff up. There is not one Man or Woman that can fix this, short term or long term. Since we the people are ultimately to blame for this mess that has been rapidly getting worse since Reagan (it did not just come on us) because we the people choose our leaders we really have no hope except God Almighty to restore this country. So I will place my faith in him, cause I ain’t got no hope or faith in any person I am looking at.

  324. squawkbox Avatar

    Well here is my bottom line observation about the mess our country finds itself in. We are in deep trouble. More than we here are even willing to admit. What is insane to me is that we are still looking to the same institutions to fix this mess that messed this stuff up. There is not one Man or Woman that can fix this, short term or long term. Since we the people are ultimately to blame for this mess that has been rapidly getting worse since Reagan (it did not just come on us) because we the people choose our leaders we really have no hope except God Almighty to restore this country. So I will place my faith in him, cause I ain’t got no hope or faith in any person I am looking at.

  325. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    a salted jelly fish laying on a flat rock outside Amarillio in July.

    SUSCHI !!!!!!!!!

  326. squawkbox Avatar

    a salted jelly fish laying on a flat rock outside Amarillio in July.

    SUSCHI !!!!!!!!!

  327. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    Sarge,

    When the new president takes office there will be 4 members of the Supreme Court who are at least 75 years old. ANY Republican president will make better judicial choices than Judge Sotomayor or Judge Kagan.

    If you honestly think that there’s no difference between Obama and Romney. . .

    Never mind, it’s just not worth the effort.

    As far as the system goes, it is what it is. There are currently 9 different candidates with wildly divergent views on most of the substantive issues. At some point the party will reach a consensus and we will have a nominee. You may not like it, but it’s the best system going.

  328. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    Sarge,
    When the new president takes office there will be 4 members of the Supreme Court who are at least 75 years old. ANY Republican president will make better judicial choices than Judge Sotomayor or Judge Kagan.
    If you honestly think that there’s no difference between Obama and Romney. . .
    Never mind, it’s just not worth the effort.
    As far as the system goes, it is what it is. There are currently 9 different candidates with wildly divergent views on most of the substantive issues. At some point the party will reach a consensus and we will have a nominee. You may not like it, but it’s the best system going.

  329. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Since we the people are ultimately to blame for this mess that has been rapidly getting worse since Reagan (it did not just come on us) because we the people choose our leaders we really have no hope except God Almighty to restore this country.

    I think that’s largely because a significant proportion of the electorate bases thier decision on “debate performance”, and what some pundit tells them about it, rather than “past performance” and what their gut tells them about that.

  330. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Since we the people are ultimately to blame for this mess that has been rapidly getting worse since Reagan (it did not just come on us) because we the people choose our leaders we really have no hope except God Almighty to restore this country.

    I think that’s largely because a significant proportion of the electorate bases thier decision on “debate performance”, and what some pundit tells them about it, rather than “past performance” and what their gut tells them about that.

  331. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    fat albert;

    Uh, dude, it’s called the 2nd Amendment.

    Which *inherently* applies to the federal government, not the state governments. It is the courts (and arguably the Civil War) which changed that.

    The supremacy clause of the Constitution means that Amendments are binding on States as well as the Federal Government.

    No, it doesn’t. It means that the explicit powers granted to the federal government, like printing money, is supreme. The Amendments are NOT powers granted to the government. In fact, it’s the very opposite. It is freedom enmumerated to the people by which the *federal* government will not violate.

  332. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    fat albert;

    Uh, dude, it’s called the 2nd Amendment.

    Which *inherently* applies to the federal government, not the state governments. It is the courts (and arguably the Civil War) which changed that.

    The supremacy clause of the Constitution means that Amendments are binding on States as well as the Federal Government.

    No, it doesn’t. It means that the explicit powers granted to the federal government, like printing money, is supreme. The Amendments are NOT powers granted to the government. In fact, it’s the very opposite. It is freedom enmumerated to the people by which the *federal* government will not violate.

  333. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    What is insane to me is that we are still looking to the same institutions to fix this mess that messed this stuff up. There is not one Man or Woman that can fix this, short term or long term.

    I completely agree.

    because we the people choose our leaders we really have no hope except God Almighty to restore this country

    I also completely agree. But the only politico advocating that, at least beyond what any other political talk host is, is Glenn Beck and you think he’s a kook. 😉

  334. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    What is insane to me is that we are still looking to the same institutions to fix this mess that messed this stuff up. There is not one Man or Woman that can fix this, short term or long term.

    I completely agree.

    because we the people choose our leaders we really have no hope except God Almighty to restore this country

    I also completely agree. But the only politico advocating that, at least beyond what any other political talk host is, is Glenn Beck and you think he’s a kook. 😉

  335. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    When the new president takes office there will be 4 members of the Supreme Court who are at least 75 years old. ANY Republican president will make better judicial choices than Judge Sotomayor or Judge Kagan.

    Which gets to an issue almost always overlooked. ginsburg will resign during the next term of the sitting president. I’m 100% confident that Romney will nominate a constitutional originalist to the bench. That would be a game changer on many levels. If current trends hold until 2012, and I think they will, getting such a judge confirmed will happen. liberals will scream and shout but it will happen.

  336. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    When the new president takes office there will be 4 members of the Supreme Court who are at least 75 years old. ANY Republican president will make better judicial choices than Judge Sotomayor or Judge Kagan.

    Which gets to an issue almost always overlooked. ginsburg will resign during the next term of the sitting president. I’m 100% confident that Romney will nominate a constitutional originalist to the bench. That would be a game changer on many levels. If current trends hold until 2012, and I think they will, getting such a judge confirmed will happen. liberals will scream and shout but it will happen.

  337. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    171 fat albert says:

    November 13, 2011 at 11:17 pm

    Sarge,

    When the new president takes office there will be 4 members of the Supreme Court who are at least 75 years old. ANY Republican president will make better judicial choices than Judge Sotomayor or Judge Kagan.

    If you honestly think that there’s no difference between Obama and Romney. . .

    If Romney is the nominee, here’s what I want to happen:

    In 2016 the Republican Party starts talking about who’s going to run for Presidnet and somebody says:

    “Romney would have won last time if it hadn’t been for his signing that gun ban bill.”

    I’m tired of the Republican party telling me I have to compromise my principals the way they do.

    Both Romney and Obama have signed what i consider to be unconstitutional Socialized Medicine laws.

    Romney has signed an unconstitutional gun ban.

    Obama hasn’t.

  338. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    171 fat albert says:
    November 13, 2011 at 11:17 pm
    Sarge,
    When the new president takes office there will be 4 members of the Supreme Court who are at least 75 years old. ANY Republican president will make better judicial choices than Judge Sotomayor or Judge Kagan.
    If you honestly think that there’s no difference between Obama and Romney. . .

    If Romney is the nominee, here’s what I want to happen:
    In 2016 the Republican Party starts talking about who’s going to run for Presidnet and somebody says:
    “Romney would have won last time if it hadn’t been for his signing that gun ban bill.”
    I’m tired of the Republican party telling me I have to compromise my principals the way they do.
    Both Romney and Obama have signed what i consider to be unconstitutional Socialized Medicine laws.
    Romney has signed an unconstitutional gun ban.
    Obama hasn’t.

  339. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    173 Darren:

    No, it doesn’t.

    Yes it does. If it didn’t then it would be perfectly OK for a State to endorse or promote a specific religion, or prohibit free speech, or search your home without a search warrant. The Constitution is binding on the states as well as the Federal Government.

  340. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    173 Darren:

    No, it doesn’t.

    Yes it does. If it didn’t then it would be perfectly OK for a State to endorse or promote a specific religion, or prohibit free speech, or search your home without a search warrant. The Constitution is binding on the states as well as the Federal Government.

  341. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    But the only politico advocating that, at least beyond what any other political talk host is, is Glenn Beck and you think he’s a kook.

    Ummmm it ain’t politicos I am aiming at.

    because we the people choose our leaders

  342. squawkbox Avatar

    But the only politico advocating that, at least beyond what any other political talk host is, is Glenn Beck and you think he’s a kook.

    Ummmm it ain’t politicos I am aiming at.

    because we the people choose our leaders

  343. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    And here’s another thing Albert:

    The Democrat Party knows there are a LOT of guys out here like me.

    They know just how bad that kind of thing hurts a politician.

  344. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    And here’s another thing Albert:
    The Democrat Party knows there are a LOT of guys out here like me.
    They know just how bad that kind of thing hurts a politician.

  345. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    GNight y’all. My job is done here.

  346. squawkbox Avatar

    GNight y’all. My job is done here.

  347. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Read my Lips. NO NEW TAXES
    Bush #1

    I don’t know for sure but did George H. W. Bush have a previous record opposing raising taxes as well?

    And thanx for the advice of not being a frog. But if I were, I’d be a mutated scorpioneating frog.

  348. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    No, it doesn’t. It means that the explicit powers granted to the federal government, like printing money, is supreme. The Amendments are NOT powers granted to the government. In fact, it’s the very opposite. It is freedom enmumerated to the people by which the *federal* government will not violate.

    Dude;

    You need to go back and take Gummint 101.

  349. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Read my Lips. NO NEW TAXES
    Bush #1

    I don’t know for sure but did George H. W. Bush have a previous record opposing raising taxes as well?
    And thanx for the advice of not being a frog. But if I were, I’d be a mutated scorpioneating frog.

  350. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    No, it doesn’t. It means that the explicit powers granted to the federal government, like printing money, is supreme. The Amendments are NOT powers granted to the government. In fact, it’s the very opposite. It is freedom enmumerated to the people by which the *federal* government will not violate.

    Dude;
    You need to go back and take Gummint 101.

  351. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    GNight y’all. My job is done here.</blockquote.

    And a buenos nachos to you too.

  352. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    GNight y’all. My job is done here.</blockquote.
    And a buenos nachos to you too.

  353. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Ummmm it ain’t politicos I am aiming at.

    Nope, it’s God and the people choosing God. Which I agree with 100,000%.

    “There are some who may feel that religion is not a matter to be seriously considered in the context of the weighty threats that face us. If so, they are at odds with the nation’s founders, for they, when our nation faced its greatest peril, sought the blessings of the Creator. And further, they discovered the essential connection between the survival of a free land and the protection of religious freedom. In John Adams’ words: ‘We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion… Our constitution was made for a moral and religious people.’

    Text Of Romney Religion Speech

  354. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Ummmm it ain’t politicos I am aiming at.

    Nope, it’s God and the people choosing God. Which I agree with 100,000%.

    “There are some who may feel that religion is not a matter to be seriously considered in the context of the weighty threats that face us. If so, they are at odds with the nation’s founders, for they, when our nation faced its greatest peril, sought the blessings of the Creator. And further, they discovered the essential connection between the survival of a free land and the protection of religious freedom. In John Adams’ words: ‘We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion… Our constitution was made for a moral and religious people.’

    Text Of Romney Religion Speech

  355. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    #176 Sarge:

    If you believe that Barack Obama will be a better President than the Republican nominee, than you should campaign and vote for him.

  356. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    #176 Sarge:
    If you believe that Barack Obama will be a better President than the Republican nominee, than you should campaign and vote for him.

  357. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Sarge,

    When the new president takes office there will be 4 members of the Supreme Court who are at least 75 years old. ANY Republican president will make better judicial choices than Judge Sotomayor or Judge Kagan.

    So what you’re telling me is that to insure I get the right Supreme Court Justice appointed, I need to vote for a guy who signed not one, but two, unconstitutional laws into effect when he was a Governor.

    You know, its that kind of logic that’s got us into the mess we’re in.

  358. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Sarge,
    When the new president takes office there will be 4 members of the Supreme Court who are at least 75 years old. ANY Republican president will make better judicial choices than Judge Sotomayor or Judge Kagan.

    So what you’re telling me is that to insure I get the right Supreme Court Justice appointed, I need to vote for a guy who signed not one, but two, unconstitutional laws into effect when he was a Governor.
    You know, its that kind of logic that’s got us into the mess we’re in.

  359. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    185 fat albert says:

    November 13, 2011 at 11:49 pm

    #176 Sarge:

    If you believe that Barack Obama will be a better President than the Republican nominee, than you should campaign and vote for him.

    Like I said: There’s not much difference between the two.

    Both have signed Socialized Medicine laws into effect.

    Both of those bills allowed government funded abortions.

    But Obama hasn’t signed any gun bans.

    Lesser of two evils guy.

    Lesser of two evils.

    Its what you recommend I vote for.

  360. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    185 fat albert says:
    November 13, 2011 at 11:49 pm
    #176 Sarge:
    If you believe that Barack Obama will be a better President than the Republican nominee, than you should campaign and vote for him.

    Like I said: There’s not much difference between the two.
    Both have signed Socialized Medicine laws into effect.
    Both of those bills allowed government funded abortions.
    But Obama hasn’t signed any gun bans.
    Lesser of two evils guy.
    Lesser of two evils.
    Its what you recommend I vote for.

  361. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    fat albert;

    If it didn’t then it would be perfectly OK for a State to endorse or promote a specific religion

    Exactly my point:

    The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution explicitly forbids the federal government from enacting any law respecting a religious establishment, and thus forbids either designating an official church for the United States, or interfering with State and local official churches — which were common when the First Amendment was enacted. It did not prevent state governments from establishing official churches. Connecticut continued to do so until it replaced its colonial Charter with the Connecticut Constitution of 1818; Massachusetts retained an establishment of religion in general until 1833.[4] (The Massachusetts system required every man to belong to some church, and pay taxes towards it; while it was formally neutral between denominations, in practice the indifferent would be counted as belonging to the majority denomination, and in some cases religious minorities had trouble being recognized at all.[citation needed]) As of 2010, Article III of the Massachusetts constitution still provided, “… the legislature shall, from time to time, authorize and require, the several towns, parishes, precincts, and other bodies politic, or religious societies, to make suitable provision, at their own expense, for the institution of the public worship of God, and for the support and maintenance of public Protestant teachers of piety, religion and morality, in all cases where such provision shall not be made voluntarily.”[5]

    From the oracle Wikipedia.

    Any outrage from the Founding Fathers? Who called this unconstituional?

    By the year 1702 all 13 American colonies had some form of state-supported religion. This support varied from tax benefits to religious requirements for voting or serving in the legislature. Below are excerpts from colonial era founding documents citing these religious references.

    Most instances of state-supported religion were removed before 1850, and the remaining requirements became null and void after the passing of the 14th Amendment on July 28, 1868. New Hampshire and North Carolina removed the nullified religious references from their state constitutions in 1875 and 1877 respectively

    http://undergod.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000069

    Notice that both my posts regarding a state religion I inserted “inherently”. There was a clear distinction between the powers of the federal government and those of the states. The Supremecy Clause refers *only* to the powers *explicitly* granted to the federal government, which trumps state governemnt law when the two conflicted. However, any power NOT explicitly granted to the federal government is given to the states (We the People). Thus while the federal government could not create a state religion, the states absolutely could, and many did. According to the latter link above, they all did.

    The same applies to gun rights. While I support the recent Supreme Court decision declaring the right to bare arms, I do so conditioned that the nature of state sovereignty has changed since the founding of the US Constitution. The Supreme Court was correct though *inherently*, it is the federal government prohibited from infringing on the right to bare arms, not the states.

    The Constitution is binding on the states as well as the Federal Government.

    That’s how it evolved to be, not how it was inherently intended. And if you think it was then you reject the federalistic nature of our founding federal government.

  362. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    fat albert;

    If it didn’t then it would be perfectly OK for a State to endorse or promote a specific religion

    Exactly my point:

    The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution explicitly forbids the federal government from enacting any law respecting a religious establishment, and thus forbids either designating an official church for the United States, or interfering with State and local official churches — which were common when the First Amendment was enacted. It did not prevent state governments from establishing official churches. Connecticut continued to do so until it replaced its colonial Charter with the Connecticut Constitution of 1818; Massachusetts retained an establishment of religion in general until 1833.[4] (The Massachusetts system required every man to belong to some church, and pay taxes towards it; while it was formally neutral between denominations, in practice the indifferent would be counted as belonging to the majority denomination, and in some cases religious minorities had trouble being recognized at all.[citation needed]) As of 2010, Article III of the Massachusetts constitution still provided, “… the legislature shall, from time to time, authorize and require, the several towns, parishes, precincts, and other bodies politic, or religious societies, to make suitable provision, at their own expense, for the institution of the public worship of God, and for the support and maintenance of public Protestant teachers of piety, religion and morality, in all cases where such provision shall not be made voluntarily.”[5]

    From the oracle Wikipedia.
    Any outrage from the Founding Fathers? Who called this unconstituional?

    By the year 1702 all 13 American colonies had some form of state-supported religion. This support varied from tax benefits to religious requirements for voting or serving in the legislature. Below are excerpts from colonial era founding documents citing these religious references.
    Most instances of state-supported religion were removed before 1850, and the remaining requirements became null and void after the passing of the 14th Amendment on July 28, 1868. New Hampshire and North Carolina removed the nullified religious references from their state constitutions in 1875 and 1877 respectively

    http://undergod.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000069
    Notice that both my posts regarding a state religion I inserted “inherently”. There was a clear distinction between the powers of the federal government and those of the states. The Supremecy Clause refers *only* to the powers *explicitly* granted to the federal government, which trumps state governemnt law when the two conflicted. However, any power NOT explicitly granted to the federal government is given to the states (We the People). Thus while the federal government could not create a state religion, the states absolutely could, and many did. According to the latter link above, they all did.
    The same applies to gun rights. While I support the recent Supreme Court decision declaring the right to bare arms, I do so conditioned that the nature of state sovereignty has changed since the founding of the US Constitution. The Supreme Court was correct though *inherently*, it is the federal government prohibited from infringing on the right to bare arms, not the states.

    The Constitution is binding on the states as well as the Federal Government.

    That’s how it evolved to be, not how it was inherently intended. And if you think it was then you reject the federalistic nature of our founding federal government.

  363. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    Darren:

    the remaining requirements became null and void after the passing of the 14th Amendment on July 28, 1868

    Unless somebody repealed the 14th amendment while I wasn’t looking, you would be incorrect in your assertion that the Constitution permits a state religion or absolute gun control. (Thank goodness!)

  364. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    Darren:

    the remaining requirements became null and void after the passing of the 14th Amendment on July 28, 1868

    Unless somebody repealed the 14th amendment while I wasn’t looking, you would be incorrect in your assertion that the Constitution permits a state religion or absolute gun control. (Thank goodness!)

  365. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    The Constitution is binding on the states as well as the Federal Government.

    That’s how it evolved to be, not how it was inherently intended. And if you think it was then you reject the federalistic nature of our founding federal government.

    Article. VI.
    Clause 1: All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

    Clause 2: This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

    Clause 3: The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

  366. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    The Constitution is binding on the states as well as the Federal Government.

    That’s how it evolved to be, not how it was inherently intended. And if you think it was then you reject the federalistic nature of our founding federal government.

    Article. VI.
    Clause 1: All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.
    Clause 2: This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
    Clause 3: The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

  367. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    And if you think it was then you reject the federalistic nature of our founding federal government.

    From Federalist #33:

    Federalist No. 33, January 2, 1788, Alexander Hamilton

    “But it is said that the laws of the Union are to be the supreme law of the land. But what inference can be drawn from this, or what would they amount to, if they were not to be supreme? It is evident they would amount to nothing. A LAW, by the very meaning of the term, includes supremacy. It is a rule which those to whom it is prescribed are bound to observe. This results from every political association. If individuals enter into a state of society, the laws of that society must be the supreme regulator of their conduct. If a number of political societies enter into a larger political society, the laws which the latter may enact, pursuant to the powers intrusted to it by its constitution, must necessarily be supreme over those societies, and the individuals of whom they are composed. It would otherwise be a mere treaty, dependent on the good faith of the parties, and not a government, which is only another word for POLITICAL POWER AND SUPREMACY. But it will not follow from this doctrine that acts of the large society which are not pursuant to its constitutional powers, but which are invasions of the residuary authorities of the smaller societies, will become the supreme law of the land. These will be merely acts of usurpation, and will deserve to be treated as such. Hence we perceive that the clause which declares the supremacy of the laws of the Union, like the one we have just before considered, only declares a truth, which flows immediately and necessarily from the institution of a federal government. It will not, I presume, have escaped observation, that it expressly confines this supremacy to laws made pursuant to the Constitution; which I mention merely as an instance of caution in the convention; since that limitation would have been to be understood, though it had not been expressed.”

    From Federalist #44

    Federalist No. 44, January 25, 1788, James Madison

    “This Constitution and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof, and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land, and the judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any thing in the constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.” The indiscreet zeal of the adversaries to the Constitution has betrayed them into an attack on this part of it also, without which it would have been evidently and radically defective. To be fully sensible of this, we need only suppose for a moment that the supremacy of the State constitutions had been left complete by a saving clause in their favor. In the first place, as these constitutions invest the State legislatures with absolute sovereignty, in all cases not excepted by the existing articles of Confederation, all the authorities contained in the proposed Constitution, so far as they exceed those enumerated in the Confederation, would have been annulled, and the new Congress would have been reduced to the same impotent condition with their predecessors. In the next place, as the constitutions of some of the States do not even expressly and fully recognize the existing powers of the Confederacy, an express saving of the supremacy of the former would, in such States, have brought into question every power contained in the proposed Constitution. In the third place, as the constitutions of the States differ much from each other, it might happen that a treaty or national law, of great and equal importance to the States, would interfere with some and not with other constitutions, and would consequently be valid in some of the States, at the same time that it would have no effect in others. In fine, the world would have seen, for the first time, a system of government founded on an inversion of the fundamental principles of all government; it would have seen the authority of the whole society every where subordinate to the authority of the parts; it would have seen a monster, in which the head was under the direction of the members.”

  368. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    And if you think it was then you reject the federalistic nature of our founding federal government.

    From Federalist #33:

    Federalist No. 33, January 2, 1788, Alexander Hamilton
    “But it is said that the laws of the Union are to be the supreme law of the land. But what inference can be drawn from this, or what would they amount to, if they were not to be supreme? It is evident they would amount to nothing. A LAW, by the very meaning of the term, includes supremacy. It is a rule which those to whom it is prescribed are bound to observe. This results from every political association. If individuals enter into a state of society, the laws of that society must be the supreme regulator of their conduct. If a number of political societies enter into a larger political society, the laws which the latter may enact, pursuant to the powers intrusted to it by its constitution, must necessarily be supreme over those societies, and the individuals of whom they are composed. It would otherwise be a mere treaty, dependent on the good faith of the parties, and not a government, which is only another word for POLITICAL POWER AND SUPREMACY. But it will not follow from this doctrine that acts of the large society which are not pursuant to its constitutional powers, but which are invasions of the residuary authorities of the smaller societies, will become the supreme law of the land. These will be merely acts of usurpation, and will deserve to be treated as such. Hence we perceive that the clause which declares the supremacy of the laws of the Union, like the one we have just before considered, only declares a truth, which flows immediately and necessarily from the institution of a federal government. It will not, I presume, have escaped observation, that it expressly confines this supremacy to laws made pursuant to the Constitution; which I mention merely as an instance of caution in the convention; since that limitation would have been to be understood, though it had not been expressed.”

    From Federalist #44

    Federalist No. 44, January 25, 1788, James Madison
    “This Constitution and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof, and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land, and the judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any thing in the constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.” The indiscreet zeal of the adversaries to the Constitution has betrayed them into an attack on this part of it also, without which it would have been evidently and radically defective. To be fully sensible of this, we need only suppose for a moment that the supremacy of the State constitutions had been left complete by a saving clause in their favor. In the first place, as these constitutions invest the State legislatures with absolute sovereignty, in all cases not excepted by the existing articles of Confederation, all the authorities contained in the proposed Constitution, so far as they exceed those enumerated in the Confederation, would have been annulled, and the new Congress would have been reduced to the same impotent condition with their predecessors. In the next place, as the constitutions of some of the States do not even expressly and fully recognize the existing powers of the Confederacy, an express saving of the supremacy of the former would, in such States, have brought into question every power contained in the proposed Constitution. In the third place, as the constitutions of the States differ much from each other, it might happen that a treaty or national law, of great and equal importance to the States, would interfere with some and not with other constitutions, and would consequently be valid in some of the States, at the same time that it would have no effect in others. In fine, the world would have seen, for the first time, a system of government founded on an inversion of the fundamental principles of all government; it would have seen the authority of the whole society every where subordinate to the authority of the parts; it would have seen a monster, in which the head was under the direction of the members.”

  369. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    fat albert;

    Like colege professors, I needto go to bed.

    Unless somebody repealed the 14th amendment while I wasn’t looking, you would be incorrect in your assertion that the Constitution permits a state religion or absolute gun control. (Thank goodness!)

    You said it was according to the 10th amendment; not 14th. Citing the 14th Amendment only serves my assertion that this is how the Constitution has evolved and that it has been the courts and “arguably the Civil war” which changed the nature of the Constitution.

    While some founders like Madison correctly opposed official religions of the various states and on the state level, NEVER did he argue that the states should not have the power to make an official religion of their state.

    Same applies to gun control. I’m only arguing the *inherent* opposition ot the Constitution, not the evolved one.

  370. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    fat albert;
    Like colege professors, I needto go to bed.

    Unless somebody repealed the 14th amendment while I wasn’t looking, you would be incorrect in your assertion that the Constitution permits a state religion or absolute gun control. (Thank goodness!)

    You said it was according to the 10th amendment; not 14th. Citing the 14th Amendment only serves my assertion that this is how the Constitution has evolved and that it has been the courts and “arguably the Civil war” which changed the nature of the Constitution.
    While some founders like Madison correctly opposed official religions of the various states and on the state level, NEVER did he argue that the states should not have the power to make an official religion of their state.
    Same applies to gun control. I’m only arguing the *inherent* opposition ot the Constitution, not the evolved one.

  371. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    fat albert;

    Oops, you did say “supremecy clause”; l not the 10th amendment

  372. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    fat albert;
    Oops, you did say “supremecy clause”; l not the 10th amendment

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