Thursday “Where Have We Heard This Before?” Open Comments

Found in San Antonio:

An independent report on that proposed $180 million, two mile long streetcar line through downtown concludes that it would be disasters for Via Metro Transit, for the city, and, mainly, for low income San Antonians…

And why is the city considering such a project?

Analyst Jeff Judson…says there is only one reason why officials like Mayor Julian Castro and County Judge Nelson Wolff are pushing so hard for the project.
“They have a burning desire to become members of the Light Rail Country Club,” Judson said. “The initiation fee runs in the billions of dollars, and the monthly dues come at the expense of other important public investments. It makes no economic sense, but it supposedly says that we are a world class city. [emphasis mine]”

More analysis from Judson:

A study of other streetcar and rail programs established in other cities concludes that nine out of ten projects end up costing 40% to 100% more than originally planned, and he says the idea that a streetcar program leads to economic development along the route is ‘fanciful.’ /snip
And he says city planners aren’t even counting on the negative economic development which will occur to the area when the streets are torn up for years building the project.
“Rail is absolutely the most expensive thing that can be built to move people,” Judson said. “It is a great way to sink a financially stable transit system, to build a rail system like this.”

What actually makes a world class city? Here’s one take on Houston’s efforts.

And yet, Houston, with its many wonderful assets, is sadly lacking in an important criterion that would define a truly world-class city: appreciation, preservation and promotion of 150-plus years of history.

But never fear! According to the Urban Dictionary, H-town is the place to be!

First word heard from the moon. The nation’s fourth largest city and home to the Texas Medical Center (the world’s largest) and NASA’s Johnson Space Center.
Few cities in the world can match H-Town as a source for blues and rap talent. Home of ZZ Top and Beyoncé.
One of the best places to live, work, play, eat, play music, hear music, do art, see art, get sick, get well, work out, hang out, and make a decent living doing whatever your heart says you were put on earth to do.

So – according to politocrats, a world-class city has things like football stadiums and light rail lines and old buildings, but according to the hip UD crowd, a world class city has great music (depending upon your taste, of course), and is a place where you can do whatever you want and still be able to make a living.
Lacking from both of these descriptions are things like solid infrastructure, well-managed finances, etc. But given the two views, I’m with the Urban Dictionary crowd. At least they reference the wide-ranging activities, the freedom to do what you want (hopefully legal), and the strong economy that allows most to find a good job and make a living.
But San Antonio thinks they need light rail. It sounds so familiar. What is it about politocrats that they are so susceptible to train envy?

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texanadian
texanadian
October 21, 2011 12:19 am

No time to read comments or even the news. Ghawdaffiiy is dead – let the blood bath begin.
Hello from Calgary and now Red Deer Alberta. Just stopping by to say hi and add nothing to the discussion. Meeting at 630 and hitting the fart sack.
Night y’all, eh.

Darren
Darren
October 20, 2011 11:08 pm
Darren
Darren
October 20, 2011 11:05 pm

Obama Admin Gave Half-Billion-Dollar Loan to Gore-Connected Electric Car Company to Build Cars in… Finland?
So, the plot thickens.

“We’re not in the business of failing; we’re in the business of winning. So we make the right decision for the business,” Fisker said. “That’s why we went to Finland.”

That alone could be volumes of learning for liberals.

Darren
Darren
October 20, 2011 10:59 pm

GJT #109;
I agree.

Hamous
October 20, 2011 10:50 pm

Oh, and :jazz:

Hamous
October 20, 2011 10:50 pm

but they don’t bring anything to the table at all. It gets really frustrating.

Once again, irony is lost.

GJT
GJT
October 20, 2011 10:36 pm

#97
Darren
The comments are full of the media’s hypocricy looking into Rubio’s past and not our man-child president’s. A sample:

Suddenly personal documents like birth certificates and passports are
important things…

😛

wagonburner
Editor
October 20, 2011 10:23 pm

The native urban outdoorsmen in Boston need to get with the program. Demonstrator Andrew Warner, 36, said homeless people are hijacking tents, getting drunk, “passing out” and stealing. “It’s turning into us against them,” Warner said. “They come in here and they’re looking at it as a way of getting a free meal and a place to crash, which is… Read more »

mharper42
mharper42
October 20, 2011 10:23 pm

#106
Wow, I count 4 different shades of blonde wiggery in that one hairdo.

wagonburner
Editor
October 20, 2011 10:18 pm

#103 mh42
This one.

Darren
Darren
October 20, 2011 10:17 pm

mharper;

Elizabeth or Latifah?

Heh. How about, “let them eat cake,” eh?

Darren
Darren
October 20, 2011 10:16 pm

Tell me again why we couldn’t show pictures of bin Laden.

Cuz they never really killed him.
Ron Paul 2012!

mharper42
mharper42
October 20, 2011 10:15 pm

#95 Darren

Queen, I’m sure, will not be happy.

Elizabeth or Latifah?

wagonburner
Editor
October 20, 2011 10:15 pm

They did show pictures of Uday, Qusay, Tuesday, & Umbassday Hussein when they got whacked.

Darren
Darren
October 20, 2011 10:15 pm

US Army At War With….Kittens?
Emperor Palpatine has the perfect solution for the little tigers.

wagonburner
Editor
October 20, 2011 10:14 pm

#86 & 91 texpat
Sounds like that community needs to get organized.

Texpat
Admin
October 20, 2011 10:11 pm

#98 Hamous
Of course, it’s all so clear now.

Hamous
October 20, 2011 10:08 pm

Tell me again why we couldn’t show pictures of bin Laden.

Katfish
October 20, 2011 9:59 pm

2 to 1 Rangers!!
3 more outs baby!

Darren
Darren
October 20, 2011 9:54 pm

William Shatner – Bohemian Rhapsody [Official Music Video]
Gotta be one of the weirdest music videos ever. Queen, I’m sure, will not be happy.
h/t Hot Air

Darren
Darren
October 20, 2011 9:45 pm

Government pushing green energy is getting better, and better, and better, and better, and…
Car Company Gets U.S. Loan, Builds Cars In Finland
Isn’t that great?
/sarc off

Darren
Darren
October 20, 2011 9:41 pm

Shannon #65 & 66;
🙂

Darren
Darren
October 20, 2011 9:40 pm

Adee #25;
Phew. A happy ending!

Texpat
Admin
October 20, 2011 9:37 pm
phil
phil
October 20, 2011 9:34 pm

Wonder which prO-O-bamagandist media type the repubs will have moderate their next debate? Maybe they can hire the MSNBC tingly-legged Spitter to get them to go at each other instead of Obumma and his criminal regime. Or better yet, maybe the Spitter can get tRicky’s hair to debate Mitten’s hair and see which one is less harebrained. I can see… Read more »

Texpat
Admin
October 20, 2011 9:32 pm

#87 mh42
The only David with a similar last name, and 30 years old, I could find in the USA was a David Stano from the north Florida area. I think the New York Post misspelled the last name.

mharper42
mharper42
October 20, 2011 9:15 pm

David Stano or Spano?

Texpat
Admin
October 20, 2011 9:10 pm

“They are defecating on our doorsteps,” fumed Katherine Hughes, a stay at home mom who has the misfortune of living one block from the chaos. “A lot of people are very frustrated. A lot of people are concerned about the safety of our kids.” Fed up homeowners said that they’ve been subjected to insults and harassment as they trek to… Read more »

Darren
Darren
October 20, 2011 9:07 pm

#75;

Video: “This Man Was in my Tent Sniffing my Girlfriend’s Feet”

and he was trying to get other protesters to drink bottles of urine.

A day in the life of a typical Tea Party rally, don’t you know? Just listen to MSNBC or read Charles Johnson’s reports.

phil
phil
October 20, 2011 9:07 pm
Darren
Darren
October 20, 2011 9:05 pm

Shannon #19;
What do you mean by “once…completed”? 😉

Darren
Darren
October 20, 2011 9:05 pm

Bonecrusher #18;
Perhaps the politicians with train envy could apply that technology to San Antonio’s train?

Katfish
October 20, 2011 8:27 pm

#71 – GETTING??????????????

Texpat
Admin
October 20, 2011 8:24 pm

Yes, gentlemen, but at least I am not a perverted SOB.

wagonburner
Editor
October 20, 2011 8:19 pm

racist

Shannon
Admin
October 20, 2011 8:11 pm

Hater

Texpat
Admin
October 20, 2011 7:59 pm

That anyone, anywhere, of sound mind, believes these Occupy# people are comprised of anything but perpetual malcontents and dedicated socialists just astounds me. I see various writers around the blogosphere with their empathetic mumblings for these whackjobs and I am left both shocked at their inept perceptions and deeply disappointed by their wishful gullibility. To the gangplank with all the… Read more »

Texpat
Admin
October 20, 2011 7:38 pm

These people are the leading edge of anarchy, the useful idiots of tyrants and despots. One Oakland police officer, who asked to remain anonymous for reasons of police protocol, described the scene in tent city as akin to a scene from “Lord of the Flies.” And, indeed, the on-the-fly rule-making can often veer into an oppressive, anarchic mood. Journalists are… Read more »

Texpat
Admin
October 20, 2011 7:28 pm

Occupy Whatever Update:
Video: “This Man Was in my Tent Sniffing my Girlfriend’s Feet”
and he was trying to get other protesters to drink bottles of urine.
Hey, this is going really well…
Yeah, these are the kind of people we should engage in serious debate over compelling political issues of the day…

Shannon
Admin
October 20, 2011 7:24 pm

I can’t find any reports of feet sniffers at Tea Parties.

wagonburner
Editor
October 20, 2011 7:18 pm
wagonburner
Editor
October 20, 2011 7:14 pm

wagonburner
Editor
Hamous
October 20, 2011 6:33 pm

Hey Napoleon, give me some of your tots.

wagonburner
Editor
October 20, 2011 6:25 pm

With tots/rings & a Dr. Pepper with rabbit-turd ice?

Shannon
Admin
October 20, 2011 6:10 pm

Bacon/Blue Cheese Hot Dog at Sonic.
Not bad.

Hamous
October 20, 2011 5:55 pm

What I want to know is if it was certified extra-virgin olive oil or some of that fake adulterated stuff.

Shannon
Admin
October 20, 2011 5:51 pm

Those backsliding Mormons are the worst.