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Baylor Hypocrisy

Texas A&M is all but gone from the Big 12. Most likely they will be playing SEC football in 2012. With that comes a more equitable revenue sharing arrangement in what is arguably the premier conference in college football. The Aggies get more money (and get out of the shadow of their big brother) and the SEC gets a footprint in a state with rich football heritage. The Big 12 agreed to let the Aggies go so it was a done deal until Tuesday when Baylor began threatening legal action:

Baylor is being reported as the “ringleader” in an attempt to keep Texas A&M from making the jump to the SEC. The school is refusing to waive its right to sue the SEC if the Aggies do leave. Baylor’s fight to keep the conference intact is not a result of its underlying principles of loyalty and its appreciation for historical significance. It comes from greed and the widespread—but often unspoken—habit of higher education institutions acting in their own self-interest.
If the Big 12 crumbles, Baylor will likely find itself in Conference USA, trading games against Texas and Oklahoma for battles against Southern Miss and Memphis. That is not good for business.

Poor Baylor. Being forced into a 2nd tier conference because of those mean old Aggies. How unfair! Sort of like how Baylor did the same thing to Houston, Rice, SMU, and TCU when they bolted a crumbling Southwest Conference to join the Big 12 back in 1996.

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24 responses to “Baylor Hypocrisy”

  1. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    TCU seems to have handled the change well, although maybe they need to play in a more competitive conference. SMU never really recovered from the “death penalty” they got way back when for NCAA rule violations. Rice should be playing in the Ivy League. UH – meh.

  2. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    TCU seems to have handled the change well, although maybe they need to play in a more competitive conference. SMU never really recovered from the “death penalty” they got way back when for NCAA rule violations. Rice should be playing in the Ivy League. UH – meh.

  3. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    And Baylor should be playing in C-USA but that wasn’t really my point. TCU has been a legitimate top 10 school several years but were basically shut out of BCS games because they weren’t in one of the big conferences. They go into the Big East (an automatic qualifying conference) next year. SMU could become a contender with the money that comes from a major conference. Rice was a founding member of the SWC but have chosen to focus on academics above athletics. Plus they were once coached by John Heisman. Can’t get more football than that ; – ) Cougar football has been a roller coaster ride but they did win four SWC championships and won a Cotton Bowl victory over the ballyhooed Cornhuskers in 1980. With a new stadium coming up things are looking better.

    My point was that Baylor has no legitimate right to whine about A&M now, after they did the same thing to the other SWC schools back in 1996.

  4. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    And Baylor should be playing in C-USA but that wasn’t really my point. TCU has been a legitimate top 10 school several years but were basically shut out of BCS games because they weren’t in one of the big conferences. They go into the Big East (an automatic qualifying conference) next year. SMU could become a contender with the money that comes from a major conference. Rice was a founding member of the SWC but have chosen to focus on academics above athletics. Plus they were once coached by John Heisman. Can’t get more football than that ; – ) Cougar football has been a roller coaster ride but they did win four SWC championships and won a Cotton Bowl victory over the ballyhooed Cornhuskers in 1980. With a new stadium coming up things are looking better.
    My point was that Baylor has no legitimate right to whine about A&M now, after they did the same thing to the other SWC schools back in 1996.

  5. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    Good thing my son graduates this year before they jack the tuition. Gotta cover the lost T.V. revenue to support the team, doncha know.

  6. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    Good thing my son graduates this year before they jack the tuition. Gotta cover the lost T.V. revenue to support the team, doncha know.

  7. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Junior goes to Baylor?

  8. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    Junior goes to Baylor?

  9. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    Yes he does and I’m going to miss Waco. A very friendly town with everything I need. An Academy store. Lots of great places to eat as well.

    Baylor was in a tizzy last year when U.T. wanted to leave for some west coast foo-foo conference. There is the economic reality Baylor will have to deal with. Baylor is a small school and does not have enough alumni/fans to attract a large enough audience for a broadcast contract. They piggy backed on A&M and U.T. when the SWC broke up. As you say, no biggie to Baylor to drop Rice in the grease. The Big 12 (10) (9) will break up. The schools that draw ratings will reform or join other conferences. Baylor may get lucky and piggy back on U.T. again, but I think that unlikely. Then again there is the U.T. network. They may need some filler for a while.

  10. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    Yes he does and I’m going to miss Waco. A very friendly town with everything I need. An Academy store. Lots of great places to eat as well.
    Baylor was in a tizzy last year when U.T. wanted to leave for some west coast foo-foo conference. There is the economic reality Baylor will have to deal with. Baylor is a small school and does not have enough alumni/fans to attract a large enough audience for a broadcast contract. They piggy backed on A&M and U.T. when the SWC broke up. As you say, no biggie to Baylor to drop Rice in the grease. The Big 12 (10) (9) will break up. The schools that draw ratings will reform or join other conferences. Baylor may get lucky and piggy back on U.T. again, but I think that unlikely. Then again there is the U.T. network. They may need some filler for a while.

  11. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    As I recall there was some threatened legislative action by Baylor (and Tech) alumni that forced UT & A&M to piggyback them into the merger with the old Big 8. Bob Bullock and Ann Richards were both Baylor grads.

  12. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    As I recall there was some threatened legislative action by Baylor (and Tech) alumni that forced UT & A&M to piggyback them into the merger with the old Big 8. Bob Bullock and Ann Richards were both Baylor grads.

  13. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Here’s what I was thinking about:

    It was time, as one state politician with a vested interest in the matter later recalled, “to turn loose the dogs of war.”

    The pack included Dobermans, a veritable who’s who of Baylor and Texas Tech alumni. Ann Richards, then governor, and Bob Bullock, then lieutenant governor, were Baylor grads. Sibley held a high-ranking position on the powerful Senate Finance Committee.

    Tech unleashed its own influential alums: John Montford, president pro tempore of the Senate; Robert Junell, destined to become chairman of the House Appropriations Committee; and Speaker of the House Pete Laney.

    Sibley threatened a cut in funding for UT and A&M if they bolted on their own. Junell collared UT president Robert Berdahl and spelled out what was at stake.

    “As I recall, it wasn’t a very veiled threat to cut budgets if Tech was left behind,” Berdahl recalls.

    Laney doesn’t recall any hints of reprisal.

    “We’d be a whole lot easier to get along with if our teams were in there, but I don’t think there were any threats,” Laney said. “We (the legislators) are temporary. We’ll be replaced sooner or later.”

  14. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    Here’s what I was thinking about:

    It was time, as one state politician with a vested interest in the matter later recalled, “to turn loose the dogs of war.”
    The pack included Dobermans, a veritable who’s who of Baylor and Texas Tech alumni. Ann Richards, then governor, and Bob Bullock, then lieutenant governor, were Baylor grads. Sibley held a high-ranking position on the powerful Senate Finance Committee.
    Tech unleashed its own influential alums: John Montford, president pro tempore of the Senate; Robert Junell, destined to become chairman of the House Appropriations Committee; and Speaker of the House Pete Laney.
    Sibley threatened a cut in funding for UT and A&M if they bolted on their own. Junell collared UT president Robert Berdahl and spelled out what was at stake.
    “As I recall, it wasn’t a very veiled threat to cut budgets if Tech was left behind,” Berdahl recalls.
    Laney doesn’t recall any hints of reprisal.
    “We’d be a whole lot easier to get along with if our teams were in there, but I don’t think there were any threats,” Laney said. “We (the legislators) are temporary. We’ll be replaced sooner or later.”

  15. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Money.
    “Student”-Athlete.

    Sour grapes?

  16. El Gordo Avatar
    El Gordo

    Money.
    “Student”-Athlete.
    Sour grapes?

  17. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    “Big Brother” hehehehehehehehehehe

    HOOKEM HORNS!!

  18. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    “Big Brother” hehehehehehehehehehe
    HOOKEM HORNS!!

  19. Hogfan Avatar
    Hogfan

    Hamygator,

    We don’t need no Aggies. I would rather HOG all the SEC money than share it with a bunch of yahoos who don’t know what stadium benches are for. If the SEC is trying to even up the brackets, we need 2 teams to join the western conference. Let’s see, Aggies and any body else that can loose on a consistant basis will be fine.

  20. Hogfan Avatar
    Hogfan

    Hamygator,
    We don’t need no Aggies. I would rather HOG all the SEC money than share it with a bunch of yahoos who don’t know what stadium benches are for. If the SEC is trying to even up the brackets, we need 2 teams to join the western conference. Let’s see, Aggies and any body else that can loose on a consistant basis will be fine.

  21. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Oh, I don’t mind the Aggies coming into the SEC. Just think, every few years we’ll have an opportunity to see our teams close to home (if you can get tickets). Just keep out them Semiholes!

  22. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    Oh, I don’t mind the Aggies coming into the SEC. Just think, every few years we’ll have an opportunity to see our teams close to home (if you can get tickets). Just keep out them Semiholes!

  23. Hogfan Avatar
    Hogfan

    Hogs been playing them for 2 years now at Cowboy Palace on a ten year deal. So far we’re 2-0. Would have gone by now but I have conflict for that date every year + tickets are $350. Maybe when I get my free healthcare(heh).

    Good luck with UAB School for the Blind this weekend.

    Wooooooo Piiiiiiig Sooooooie!!!

  24. Hogfan Avatar
    Hogfan

    Hogs been playing them for 2 years now at Cowboy Palace on a ten year deal. So far we’re 2-0. Would have gone by now but I have conflict for that date every year + tickets are $350. Maybe when I get my free healthcare(heh).
    Good luck with UAB School for the Blind this weekend.
    Wooooooo Piiiiiiig Sooooooie!!!

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