Weekend Driving Test Open Comments

I was going over some old files, and came across something I used when I was teaching Lovely Daughter how to drive. It was a driving test, designed to test her ability to read maps, plan trips, and handle potentially dangerous driving conditions. Keep in mind that Lovely was hoping to attend Texas A&M at the time this test was administered. I was not taught about the freeways and major streets when I was taught how to drive, and I remembered my panic when caught in a situation for which I was unprepared. I was bound and determined that my kids wouldn’t panic, and that they’d be able to read maps and plan their trips.

Describe the following requested trips, giving turn directions (right, left, straight) and street names.
1) You find out that a really killer blouse is on sale at JC Penney at Almeda Mall. You pick up your friend K— and begin driving. How do you intend to reach the mall?
2) Before you leave your neighborhood, you hear on the radio that there’s a wreck on the freeway where you plan to enter. What is your trip plan now?
3) Go back to question 1. You get on the freeway, and then hear about a wreck further down the freeway, before you exit for the mall. How do you plan on getting to the mall now? (You REALLY want this blouse!)
4) You are visiting colleges, and plan to see Texas A&M at College Station, Stephen F. Austin in Nacogdoches, and Texas A&I in Kingsville. How do you plan to exit Houston to visit these colleges?
Texas A&M: __________________________________________
S.F. Austin: ____________________________________________
Texas A&I: ____________________________________________
6) You are all grown up and have moved into your own apartment. In the middle of the night, you get a hysterical phone call from your kind, loving, sweet, nurturing mother who misses you more than words can tell. She cannot rest until you see her. How do you get from your apartment in Bryan, Texas to your childhood home?
7) You are a teenager looking for a job. Your job interview is at the intersection of Fairmont Parkway and Red Bluff. How do you get from your school to your interview?
8.) You are alone in your car at a stoplight. You feel a bump and look in the rear view mirror to see a man getting out of his car and coming towards your window. There are no other cars around. What do you do?
a) Get out your license and insurance information, a pencil and a piece of paper so that you can exchange information.
b) Lock your doors and hold your insurance information up to the window.
c) Wave and smile and leave the scene.
d) Get on your cell phone and call your parents or some other adult for help.
9) You and your friends are in the car. Sally refuses to wear her seat belt, saying it’s “too confining and uncomfortable”. Your other friends tell you to just go ahead and stop arguing with her. What do you say?
a) “Okay, we’ll go. Just stay in the back and act like you’ve had it on if we get pulled over.”
b) “Sally, you twit, you are just too cute for words. Of course I don’t want you to be uncomfortable. Just hang on tight if we get in an accident!”
c) “Sally, it’s my car and my rules. Make a choice: buckle up or get out, before we’re late.”
d) “Let’s go in Sally’s car!”
10) You are meeting a friend at her house, and you’ve never been there before. You find you are lost, and now you’re scared. What do you do?
a) Pull out the tissues so you can wipe your face while you cry.
b) Get your cell phone and call her while you continue to try to find your next turn.
c) Keep driving until you find a street name you recognize.
d) Find a safe, public place to pull into. Pull out your trusty key map and cell phone, and find out where you need to go.
11) You are on a freeway, and need to exit. No matter how hard you try, the cars in the next lane will not let you move over. What do you do?
a) Go to the next exit, the next exit, the next exit, until you can safely move over. Then double back.
b) Nose your car into the next lane, forcing the oncoming traffic to slow down enough to let you in.
c) Cuss. Loudly. Long. Feel free to indulge in a few hand gestures until someone lets you in.
d) Turn on your hazard lights and slow down until you find a break in the traffic.
12) You are coming home from a nighttime basketball game on the far side of town. You notice a car that seems to follow you in speed and lane changes. You get nervous, and start to panic. What do you do now?
a) Slow down and put on your hazard lights until the car stops following you.
b) Go directly home, and then run into your house as fast as you can.
c) Try to exit the freeway and lose the jerk in a neighborhood.
d) Drive to a brightly lit parking lot or police station and honk your horn if he’s still around.
13) The unbelievable happens. You get pulled over by the police. What is the FIRST thing you do?
a) Reach over to get your insurance information out of the glove box and your license out of your purse so you can have it ready for the officer.
b) Call your parents or boyfriend to let them/him know you’re going to be late.
c) Roll down your window and put your hands high up on the steering wheel.
d) Unbuckle your seat belt and step slowly out of the car.

FWIW – Number 12 actually happened to me one night on my way home. Scared me to death. During his pursuit of me, he turned on his interior light so I could see him. I’ll never forget the tan interior and his Middle Eastern features. I managed to ditch the guy by crossing two lanes at the last minute to catch an off-ramp. Fortunately for me, there were no cars in those two lanes for at least a half mile, so I had time to formulate my plan and execute it. The perv, his light still on, was craning his neck as he watched me exit.


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212 responses to “Weekend Driving Test Open Comments”

  1. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Mornin’ Gang
    Hey it’s the weekend!! & I’m heading off to the deer lease.

  2. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Mornin’ Gang
    Hey it’s the weekend!! & I’m heading off to the deer lease.

  3. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    I should add that the driving test is a good idea. When I was growing up, one of the things that kept me distracted on the loong trips, (2 whole hours) from south Alabama to PC Beach Florida was reading the map. When my young-uns were small we had a Anaheim Custom Van Fambly Truckster and made many trips from Houston to Alabama, or north Florida and Disney World, and one of the amusements for the kids was the map. Oh and talking about interstates, my Daughter and made a trip to Florida when she was about 15. We stopped at my Moms house in Alabama and then went down Fl 77 to the beach. We were in my old Pick-Um-Up and since this is a two lane road we had to pass a lot of people, dang near scared her to death.At first it didn’t dawn on me that she had seldom been on a two lane road. Of course the road was straight as an arrow and you could see for miles, but she didn’t like meeting a car head on even if it was a mile away.

  4. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    I should add that the driving test is a good idea. When I was growing up, one of the things that kept me distracted on the loong trips, (2 whole hours) from south Alabama to PC Beach Florida was reading the map. When my young-uns were small we had a Anaheim Custom Van Fambly Truckster and made many trips from Houston to Alabama, or north Florida and Disney World, and one of the amusements for the kids was the map. Oh and talking about interstates, my Daughter and made a trip to Florida when she was about 15. We stopped at my Moms house in Alabama and then went down Fl 77 to the beach. We were in my old Pick-Um-Up and since this is a two lane road we had to pass a lot of people, dang near scared her to death.At first it didn’t dawn on me that she had seldom been on a two lane road. Of course the road was straight as an arrow and you could see for miles, but she didn’t like meeting a car head on even if it was a mile away.

  5. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    GM, all. I am scurrying around this morning moving all my sprinklers around, which can only legally be watering my wilted landscape until 10 a.m. Catch y’all on my breathing breaks.

  6. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    GM, all. I am scurrying around this morning moving all my sprinklers around, which can only legally be watering my wilted landscape until 10 a.m. Catch y’all on my breathing breaks.

  7. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    A Chron headline speaks for itself.

    ‘Education cuts, Perry record will drawn campaign scrutiny’

  8. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    A Chron headline speaks for itself.
    ‘Education cuts, Perry record will drawn campaign scrutiny’

  9. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Drudge headline — I am now definitely stuck to Obummer as POTUS name.

    OBUMMER SUMMER: THOUSANDS LINE UP FOR JOBS…

  10. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Drudge headline — I am now definitely stuck to Obummer as POTUS name.

    OBUMMER SUMMER: THOUSANDS LINE UP FOR JOBS…

  11. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Federal Officials Reject City’s Plan to Ban Food Stamps for Soda

    In October, the city proposed a two-year experiment to see if the prohibition would reduce obesity among people who buy their groceries with food stamps. But in a letter Friday, an administrator of the food stamp program in Washington said the city’s proposed experiment would have been “too large and complex” to implement and evaluate.

    Ok, then how about no sodas bought with your food stamps because sodas are not “food”?

    http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/08/19/washington-rejects-n-y-c-ban-on-use-of-food-stamps-to-buy-sodas/?hp

  12. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Federal Officials Reject City’s Plan to Ban Food Stamps for Soda
    In October, the city proposed a two-year experiment to see if the prohibition would reduce obesity among people who buy their groceries with food stamps. But in a letter Friday, an administrator of the food stamp program in Washington said the city’s proposed experiment would have been “too large and complex” to implement and evaluate.

    Ok, then how about no sodas bought with your food stamps because sodas are not “food”?
    http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/08/19/washington-rejects-n-y-c-ban-on-use-of-food-stamps-to-buy-sodas/?hp

  13. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Well that is almost the perfect lil’ wimmins test. It is not the perfect lil’ wimmins test because it doesn’t say anything about beer, or sammiches, or men. 😀

  14. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Well that is almost the perfect lil’ wimmins test. It is not the perfect lil’ wimmins test because it doesn’t say anything about beer, or sammiches, or men. 😀

  15. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #7
    So, Tim, you would reword the first test — not going to the mall to buy a blouse, but heading to the market to buy beer and sammich makings for the men of the house?

  16. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #7
    So, Tim, you would reword the first test — not going to the mall to buy a blouse, but heading to the market to buy beer and sammich makings for the men of the house?

  17. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Half a brain says, leave a 5-yr-old child at home, don’t take her out to a bar at 9 oclock at night.
    http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/volusia_news/081911-cops-woman-left-baby-in-stroller-outside-bar

    There is a comment that nails the problem, and note this happened in Florida:

    Long before this country is destroyed by a natural disaster or terrorism, the proliferation of single parent households will cause its demise.

  18. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Half a brain says, leave a 5-yr-old child at home, don’t take her out to a bar at 9 oclock at night.
    http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/volusia_news/081911-cops-woman-left-baby-in-stroller-outside-bar
    There is a comment that nails the problem, and note this happened in Florida:

    Long before this country is destroyed by a natural disaster or terrorism, the proliferation of single parent households will cause its demise.

  19. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    #8
    mharper

    Yes of course, priorities. 😀

  20. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #8
    mharper
    Yes of course, priorities. 😀

  21. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    #6
    mharper

    From the comments on the food stamp article:

    Brace yourselves for the mean-spirited comments certain to show up here, denigrating welfare “queens” for buying soda with taxpayer money.

    But keep in mind that the mean-spirited want it both ways: they shriek for no government regulation, and then shriek some more when there is no government regulation.

    So conservatives are hypocritical if they want rules and regulations inside a government program?

  22. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #6
    mharper
    From the comments on the food stamp article:

    Brace yourselves for the mean-spirited comments certain to show up here, denigrating welfare “queens” for buying soda with taxpayer money.
    But keep in mind that the mean-spirited want it both ways: they shriek for no government regulation, and then shriek some more when there is no government regulation.

    So conservatives are hypocritical if they want rules and regulations inside a government program?

  23. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    10,000 year old bones uncovered, believed to have been the first democrat.

  24. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    10,000 year old bones uncovered, believed to have been the first democrat.

  25. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #11 Tim

    As a conservative, my 1st choice would be to phase out all gubmint food programs altogether. The hungry who can’t get their sh!t together can go to privately-run charitable food banks to get staples. But until/unless phased out (and that’s admittedly unlikely during my lifetime) — 2nd choice is, of course there must be restrictions on what food stamp $ can be spent on. It is insulting to taxpayers to have welfare queens buying sodas and chips for their chirrens.

  26. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #11 Tim
    As a conservative, my 1st choice would be to phase out all gubmint food programs altogether. The hungry who can’t get their sh!t together can go to privately-run charitable food banks to get staples. But until/unless phased out (and that’s admittedly unlikely during my lifetime) — 2nd choice is, of course there must be restrictions on what food stamp $ can be spent on. It is insulting to taxpayers to have welfare queens buying sodas and chips for their chirrens.

  27. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #12 😀

  28. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #12 😀

  29. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    More messes Obama inherited

    The Detroit automaker said in court papers that it cannot be held liable for damages relating to vehicles produced before the “new” GM was created after the “old” GM filed for bankruptcy in 2009, as part of a $49.5 billion government bailout.

    snip

    “New GM did not assume liability for old GM’s design choices, conduct or alleged breaches of liability under the warranty, and its terms expressly preclude money damages,” the response says.

  30. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    More messes Obama inherited

    The Detroit automaker said in court papers that it cannot be held liable for damages relating to vehicles produced before the “new” GM was created after the “old” GM filed for bankruptcy in 2009, as part of a $49.5 billion government bailout.
    snip
    “New GM did not assume liability for old GM’s design choices, conduct or alleged breaches of liability under the warranty, and its terms expressly preclude money damages,” the response says.

  31. Tedtam Avatar

    Well, one archbishop has the courage to say it like it is:

    According to Archbishop Charles Chaput, the media do not “provide trustworthy information about religious faith. ”
    /snip
    “And with relatively few exceptions,” he said, “the mass media tend to cover these disputed issues with a combination of ignorance, laziness, and bias against traditional Christian belief.”

    The Archbishop continued: “We make a very serious mistake if we rely on media like the New York Times, Newsweek, CNN, or MSNBC for reliable news about religion. These news media simply don’t provide trustworthy information about religious faith — and sometimes they can’t provide it, either because of limited resources or because of their own editorial prejudices.”

    “These are secular operations focused on making a profit,” he said. “They have very little sympathy for the Catholic faith, and quite a lot of aggressive skepticism toward any religious community that claims to preach and teach God’s truth.”
    /snip
    “And with relatively few exceptions,” he said, “the mass media tend to cover these disputed issues with a combination of ignorance, laziness, and bias against traditional Christian belief.”

    The Archbishop continued: “We make a very serious mistake if we rely on media like the New York Times, Newsweek, CNN, or MSNBC for reliable news about religion. These news media simply don’t provide trustworthy information about religious faith — and sometimes they can’t provide it, either because of limited resources or because of their own editorial prejudices.”

    “These are secular operations focused on making a profit,” he said. “They have very little sympathy for the Catholic faith, and quite a lot of aggressive skepticism toward any religious community that claims to preach and teach God’s truth.”

    Archbishop Chaput noted that the media gave a lot of coverage to the so-called “Arab Spring,” involving civil unrest in Egypt and other Middle Eastern countries. “But very little of that coverage has mentioned that the turmoil in Muslim countries has also created a very dangerous situation for Christians and other religious minorities across North Africa and the Middle East,” he said. “In Egypt, angry mobs have attacked Christian churches and monasteries, burning them to the ground and murdering the people inside.”

    Archbishop Chaput also criticized the lack of media coverage for widespread anti-Christian violence in Iraq, Syria, Tunisia, and Pakistan.

    I know the Church doesn’t approve of cloning, but….

  32. Tedtam Avatar

    Well, one archbishop has the courage to say it like it is:

    According to Archbishop Charles Chaput, the media do not “provide trustworthy information about religious faith. ”
    /snip
    “And with relatively few exceptions,” he said, “the mass media tend to cover these disputed issues with a combination of ignorance, laziness, and bias against traditional Christian belief.”
    The Archbishop continued: “We make a very serious mistake if we rely on media like the New York Times, Newsweek, CNN, or MSNBC for reliable news about religion. These news media simply don’t provide trustworthy information about religious faith — and sometimes they can’t provide it, either because of limited resources or because of their own editorial prejudices.”
    “These are secular operations focused on making a profit,” he said. “They have very little sympathy for the Catholic faith, and quite a lot of aggressive skepticism toward any religious community that claims to preach and teach God’s truth.”
    /snip
    “And with relatively few exceptions,” he said, “the mass media tend to cover these disputed issues with a combination of ignorance, laziness, and bias against traditional Christian belief.”
    The Archbishop continued: “We make a very serious mistake if we rely on media like the New York Times, Newsweek, CNN, or MSNBC for reliable news about religion. These news media simply don’t provide trustworthy information about religious faith — and sometimes they can’t provide it, either because of limited resources or because of their own editorial prejudices.”
    “These are secular operations focused on making a profit,” he said. “They have very little sympathy for the Catholic faith, and quite a lot of aggressive skepticism toward any religious community that claims to preach and teach God’s truth.”
    Archbishop Chaput noted that the media gave a lot of coverage to the so-called “Arab Spring,” involving civil unrest in Egypt and other Middle Eastern countries. “But very little of that coverage has mentioned that the turmoil in Muslim countries has also created a very dangerous situation for Christians and other religious minorities across North Africa and the Middle East,” he said. “In Egypt, angry mobs have attacked Christian churches and monasteries, burning them to the ground and murdering the people inside.”
    Archbishop Chaput also criticized the lack of media coverage for widespread anti-Christian violence in Iraq, Syria, Tunisia, and Pakistan.

    I know the Church doesn’t approve of cloning, but….

  33. Tedtam Avatar

    …and a comment to follow-up on previous post:
    GrannyATL
    Posted on August 20, 2011 at 9:34am

    A’bishop Chaput has always been a man unafraid to call it like he sees it. I think it’s no coincidence that Pope Benedict has placed two strong conservative men side-by-side in the northeast — Dolan and now Chaput. That area has been a bastion of liberalism with bishops who have been weak.

    Sorry Gatekeeper, but you’ve got it all wrong. Both Pope Benedict and JPII have condemned “Social Justice” that is based on Marxist beliefs, which is the current misunderstanding in many Catholic churches. As Christians, we are to help our brothers — and encourage them as we go. The government is not our keeper.

    And plenty of other comments lamenting the coverage of just about every news story as well as the religious.

  34. Tedtam Avatar

    …and a comment to follow-up on previous post:
    GrannyATL
    Posted on August 20, 2011 at 9:34am

    A’bishop Chaput has always been a man unafraid to call it like he sees it. I think it’s no coincidence that Pope Benedict has placed two strong conservative men side-by-side in the northeast — Dolan and now Chaput. That area has been a bastion of liberalism with bishops who have been weak.
    Sorry Gatekeeper, but you’ve got it all wrong. Both Pope Benedict and JPII have condemned “Social Justice” that is based on Marxist beliefs, which is the current misunderstanding in many Catholic churches. As Christians, we are to help our brothers — and encourage them as we go. The government is not our keeper.

    And plenty of other comments lamenting the coverage of just about every news story as well as the religious.

  35. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    G’Morning all

    He’s really working hard while on vacation

    Obama pushes for action on jobs
    Aug 20 06:13 AM US/Eastern
    By ERICA WERNER
    Associated Press

    VINEYARD HAVEN, Mass. (AP) – President Barack Obama says members of Congress should put country before politics, set aside their differences and act together to put people back to work.

    The president is vacationing on Martha’s Vineyard in Massachusetts, but he recorded his weekly Saturday radio and Internet address earlier in the week while in Alpha, Ill., during an economy-focused Midwestern bus tour.

    Obama has been promoting those ideas and others for weeks and didn’t offer any new proposals or rhetoric Saturday. He’s saving that for a jobs package he’s to unroll in a post-Labor Day speech once he returns to Washington. Instead, Obama repeated familiar themes Saturday about working to recover from the recession.

    Seems like the Republican Ohio Governor is smarter than OBH.:

    In the Republican address, Ohio Gov. John Kasich boasted of reducing Ohio’s budget shortfall and cutting taxes in that state and said it should be a model for the federal government. He said the federal government should get out of the way and let states succeed without raising taxes or imposing regulations, but he also called on Republicans to work with Democrats without compromising their principles.

    “It’s my hope President Obama will listen to the people and partner with Republicans to get our economy back to creating jobs and producing growth,” Kasich said. “And it’s just as important that Republicans not be stiff-necked about working across the aisle when important work must be done. It’s OK to compromise on policy, as long as you don’t compromise on your principles.”

    “The playbook we’re following here in Ohio is simple: to grow more, you have to tax less, spend less and regulate less,” Kasich said. “If we can do it here in Ohio, Washington can—and should—do it also.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9P7OHF01&show_article=1

    And from Reuters:

    In the Republicans’ weekly address, Ohio Governor John Kasich said it was wrong for the president to stand aside and blame others for the impasse that has also affected legislation related to immigration, energy and other issues.

    “Divided government is no excuse for inaction,” said Kasich, a former chairman of the House Budget Committee.

    “There’s just no substitute for leadership from the president of the United States,” Kasich said. “It’s my hope President Obama will listen to the people and partner with Republicans to get our economy back to creating jobs and producing growth.”

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/20/us-usa-economy-idUSTRE77A2BR20110820?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true

  36. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    G’Morning all
    He’s really working hard while on vacation

    Obama pushes for action on jobs
    Aug 20 06:13 AM US/Eastern
    By ERICA WERNER
    Associated Press
    VINEYARD HAVEN, Mass. (AP) – President Barack Obama says members of Congress should put country before politics, set aside their differences and act together to put people back to work.
    The president is vacationing on Martha’s Vineyard in Massachusetts, but he recorded his weekly Saturday radio and Internet address earlier in the week while in Alpha, Ill., during an economy-focused Midwestern bus tour.
    Obama has been promoting those ideas and others for weeks and didn’t offer any new proposals or rhetoric Saturday. He’s saving that for a jobs package he’s to unroll in a post-Labor Day speech once he returns to Washington. Instead, Obama repeated familiar themes Saturday about working to recover from the recession.

    Seems like the Republican Ohio Governor is smarter than OBH.:

    In the Republican address, Ohio Gov. John Kasich boasted of reducing Ohio’s budget shortfall and cutting taxes in that state and said it should be a model for the federal government. He said the federal government should get out of the way and let states succeed without raising taxes or imposing regulations, but he also called on Republicans to work with Democrats without compromising their principles.
    “It’s my hope President Obama will listen to the people and partner with Republicans to get our economy back to creating jobs and producing growth,” Kasich said. “And it’s just as important that Republicans not be stiff-necked about working across the aisle when important work must be done. It’s OK to compromise on policy, as long as you don’t compromise on your principles.”
    “The playbook we’re following here in Ohio is simple: to grow more, you have to tax less, spend less and regulate less,” Kasich said. “If we can do it here in Ohio, Washington can—and should—do it also.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9P7OHF01&show_article=1
    And from Reuters:

    In the Republicans’ weekly address, Ohio Governor John Kasich said it was wrong for the president to stand aside and blame others for the impasse that has also affected legislation related to immigration, energy and other issues.
    “Divided government is no excuse for inaction,” said Kasich, a former chairman of the House Budget Committee.
    “There’s just no substitute for leadership from the president of the United States,” Kasich said. “It’s my hope President Obama will listen to the people and partner with Republicans to get our economy back to creating jobs and producing growth.”

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/20/us-usa-economy-idUSTRE77A2BR20110820?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true

  37. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    This pretty well nails it.
    P.S. I think her name was Janean Roflmao until she moved the letters around.

    Dr. Alfonzo Rachel Tries to Help Janeane Garofalo

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMeniffIF0s&feature=player_embedded

  38. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    This pretty well nails it.
    P.S. I think her name was Janean Roflmao until she moved the letters around.

    Dr. Alfonzo Rachel Tries to Help Janeane Garofalo

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMeniffIF0s&feature=player_embedded

  39. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #20 OTL
    That was cute! Especially the blaze at the end. Thx for posting.

  40. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #20 OTL
    That was cute! Especially the blaze at the end. Thx for posting.

  41. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #22 OTL
    That is a dead-on Zot, which is the sound made when an anteater’s tongue shoots out and zaps you (according to B.C. comic strip, anyway).

  42. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #22 OTL
    That is a dead-on Zot, which is the sound made when an anteater’s tongue shoots out and zaps you (according to B.C. comic strip, anyway).

  43. Hamous Avatar

    #20 geezer: That was really funny.

  44. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #20 geezer: That was really funny.

  45. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    13 mharper,

    Thankfully, the food stamp and school Breakfast/Lunch programs will not be cancelled in your lifetime. I too abhor the waste that happens in these programs, but I do not think the private food banks could step up to the challange today.

    Inefficiency is in every process whether it is manufacturing or transactional. It is possible to get a process to “zero defects”, but at what cost? You end up spending more money chasing defects than the actual cost of the defects.

    Clearly, we have to do something about the unscrupulous “Mom & Pop” grocery stores that will exchange cash for food stamps in sham purchases. Food stamp users should not be buying alcohol, softdrinks, or junk food, but I suspect a good many of the users just do not know anything about good nutrition. Maybe a basic course in nutrition should be a prequisite to getting food stamps.

    Simple

  46. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    13 mharper,
    Thankfully, the food stamp and school Breakfast/Lunch programs will not be cancelled in your lifetime. I too abhor the waste that happens in these programs, but I do not think the private food banks could step up to the challange today.
    Inefficiency is in every process whether it is manufacturing or transactional. It is possible to get a process to “zero defects”, but at what cost? You end up spending more money chasing defects than the actual cost of the defects.
    Clearly, we have to do something about the unscrupulous “Mom & Pop” grocery stores that will exchange cash for food stamps in sham purchases. Food stamp users should not be buying alcohol, softdrinks, or junk food, but I suspect a good many of the users just do not know anything about good nutrition. Maybe a basic course in nutrition should be a prequisite to getting food stamps.
    Simple

  47. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Over the next 18 months, the Environmental Protection Agency will finalize a flurry of new rules to curb pollution from coal-fired power plants. Mercury, smog, ozone, greenhouse gases, water intake, coal ash—it’s all getting regulated. And, not surprisingly, some lawmakers are grumbling.

    Industry groups such the Edison Electric Institute, which represents investor-owned utilities, and the American Legislative Exchange Council have dubbed the coming rules “EPA’s Regulatory Train Wreck.” The regulations, they say, will cost utilities up to $129 billion and force them to retire one-fifth of coal capacity. Given that coal provides 45 percent of the country’s power, that means higher electric bills, more blackouts and fewer jobs. The doomsday scenario has alarmed Republicans in the House, who have been scrambling to block the measures. Environmental groups retort that the rules will bring sizeable public health benefits, and that industry groups have been exaggerating the costs of environmental regulations since they were first created.

    Combine that with this:

    The Obama administration poured more than $90 billion of the $800 billion stimulus into clean energy programs only to watch unemployment steadily increase. The White House stubbornly claims that the green initiatives have “saved or created” over 200,000 jobs, but even the Washington Post calls that number a “pittance” compared to the millions of jobs that have evaporated since 2007.

    Those who still believe green jobs are fact rather than fiction argue that they just aren’t materializing fast enough, and that’s only because the government has not put a tax on carbon or even a national renewable energy mandate. They complain that fossil fuels are still much more affordable, which means outside investors are uninterested in supporting an alternative industry when that alternative promises fewer results for much higher costs.

    And you have Utopia.

    Leader!
    Leader!
    Leader!
    Leader!

  48. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Over the next 18 months, the Environmental Protection Agency will finalize a flurry of new rules to curb pollution from coal-fired power plants. Mercury, smog, ozone, greenhouse gases, water intake, coal ash—it’s all getting regulated. And, not surprisingly, some lawmakers are grumbling.
    Industry groups such the Edison Electric Institute, which represents investor-owned utilities, and the American Legislative Exchange Council have dubbed the coming rules “EPA’s Regulatory Train Wreck.” The regulations, they say, will cost utilities up to $129 billion and force them to retire one-fifth of coal capacity. Given that coal provides 45 percent of the country’s power, that means higher electric bills, more blackouts and fewer jobs. The doomsday scenario has alarmed Republicans in the House, who have been scrambling to block the measures. Environmental groups retort that the rules will bring sizeable public health benefits, and that industry groups have been exaggerating the costs of environmental regulations since they were first created.

    Combine that with this:

    The Obama administration poured more than $90 billion of the $800 billion stimulus into clean energy programs only to watch unemployment steadily increase. The White House stubbornly claims that the green initiatives have “saved or created” over 200,000 jobs, but even the Washington Post calls that number a “pittance” compared to the millions of jobs that have evaporated since 2007.
    Those who still believe green jobs are fact rather than fiction argue that they just aren’t materializing fast enough, and that’s only because the government has not put a tax on carbon or even a national renewable energy mandate. They complain that fossil fuels are still much more affordable, which means outside investors are uninterested in supporting an alternative industry when that alternative promises fewer results for much higher costs.

    And you have Utopia.
    Leader!
    Leader!
    Leader!
    Leader!

  49. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #26 Simple

    I do not think the private food banks could step up to the challange today.

    I did not suggest an abrupt and drastic change. That would never work, and would prolly result in counterproductive riots.

  50. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #26 Simple

    I do not think the private food banks could step up to the challange today.

    I did not suggest an abrupt and drastic change. That would never work, and would prolly result in counterproductive riots.

  51. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    28 Darren
    Your Utopia video has some viciously funny comments!

    Everyone that voted for this idiot needs a swift kick in the n*ts….everyday for the rest of their lives.

  52. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    28 Darren
    Your Utopia video has some viciously funny comments!

    Everyone that voted for this idiot needs a swift kick in the n*ts….everyday for the rest of their lives.

  53. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Everyone’s prolly seen or heard it but Anderson Cooper 180 tickles himself over peeing on a plane story, giggles like a ….girl.

  54. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Everyone’s prolly seen or heard it but Anderson Cooper 180 tickles himself over peeing on a plane story, giggles like a ….girl.

  55. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Yep, very mature & professional, worth every penny o’ them big bucks he is paid to be a JournoList.

  56. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Yep, very mature & professional, worth every penny o’ them big bucks he is paid to be a JournoList.

  57. Katfish Avatar

    Cops in Portland Oregon blow up tennis ball.

    Slow crime day?

    The tennis bomber strikes again?

  58. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Cops in Portland Oregon blow up tennis ball.
    Slow crime day?
    The tennis bomber strikes again?

  59. Katfish Avatar

    Speaking of slow news days…

    They have some regular Sherlock Holmses in the Catskills:

    Police theorize someone who lives in the area and parked in the lot, left it there.

  60. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Speaking of slow news days…
    They have some regular Sherlock Holmses in the Catskills:

    Police theorize someone who lives in the area and parked in the lot, left it there.

  61. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Good to know we have alert citizens who see something and say something, leading to these crack crime-fighting teams showing up and on the case. My main question: why are these non-events reported by the media?

  62. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Good to know we have alert citizens who see something and say something, leading to these crack crime-fighting teams showing up and on the case. My main question: why are these non-events reported by the media?

  63. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Good afternoon Hamsters. Recovering from the 103 out here yesterday afternoon before some real clouds drifted in and sank us to 99. But they held no rain for us, just shade, however that was welcome. The weather data for Richmond on the weather service site has not been realtime/accurate for several days, so we presume something is amiss with the instruments at Sugar Land Airport that send it. Overheated perhaps???

    Most of our pastures begin to resemble tan Moonscapes except where we’ve been able to water near the barn or under the dense shade in the back. Our last decent rain was June 22nd.

    Late last month an idiot neighbor on the other street started a trash fire at the back of the lot, very close to a treeline bordering the neighboring subdivision. A homeowner two houses down saw it and called the fire department, which quickly responded. When the perps (said to be juveniles) saw the firetruck coming they hurried to get a garden hose to douse their handywork. They got a lecture. Hope their father got a big lecture and a big ticket.

    Regarding ole Jeanene Garafalo’s latest eruption, do you suppose she’s ticked because the spinoff Criminal Minds series flopped and was cancelled? She was in it as one of the special FBI team. Discovered that when viewing the first episode and decided not to waste electrons because she was in it. Also did not think it captured much of the interest and cohesion the original show does.

  64. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Good afternoon Hamsters. Recovering from the 103 out here yesterday afternoon before some real clouds drifted in and sank us to 99. But they held no rain for us, just shade, however that was welcome. The weather data for Richmond on the weather service site has not been realtime/accurate for several days, so we presume something is amiss with the instruments at Sugar Land Airport that send it. Overheated perhaps???
    Most of our pastures begin to resemble tan Moonscapes except where we’ve been able to water near the barn or under the dense shade in the back. Our last decent rain was June 22nd.
    Late last month an idiot neighbor on the other street started a trash fire at the back of the lot, very close to a treeline bordering the neighboring subdivision. A homeowner two houses down saw it and called the fire department, which quickly responded. When the perps (said to be juveniles) saw the firetruck coming they hurried to get a garden hose to douse their handywork. They got a lecture. Hope their father got a big lecture and a big ticket.
    Regarding ole Jeanene Garafalo’s latest eruption, do you suppose she’s ticked because the spinoff Criminal Minds series flopped and was cancelled? She was in it as one of the special FBI team. Discovered that when viewing the first episode and decided not to waste electrons because she was in it. Also did not think it captured much of the interest and cohesion the original show does.

  65. Tedtam Avatar

    Adee – I’m with you. As soon as I turned on the first episode and realized J Gbuffalo was in it, I decided not to watch it. The original Criminal Minds was able to catch my attention from the first scene – the spinoff, not so much. I had to force myself to watch it until I realized the windbag was a cast member. Then I realized one reason it was such a loser of a tv show.

  66. Tedtam Avatar

    Adee – I’m with you. As soon as I turned on the first episode and realized J Gbuffalo was in it, I decided not to watch it. The original Criminal Minds was able to catch my attention from the first scene – the spinoff, not so much. I had to force myself to watch it until I realized the windbag was a cast member. Then I realized one reason it was such a loser of a tv show.

  67. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Thankfully, the food stamp and school Breakfast/Lunch programs will not be cancelled in your lifetime. I too abhor the waste that happens in these programs, but I do not think the private food banks could step up to the challange today.

    I think I’ll point out here that the biggest health problem faced by the poor in this country is obesity.

  68. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Thankfully, the food stamp and school Breakfast/Lunch programs will not be cancelled in your lifetime. I too abhor the waste that happens in these programs, but I do not think the private food banks could step up to the challange today.

    I think I’ll point out here that the biggest health problem faced by the poor in this country is obesity.

  69. Katfish Avatar

    7) You are a teenager looking for a job. Your job interview is at the intersection of Fairmont Parkway and Red Bluff. How do you get from your school to your interview?

    Do you need to include the side trip to pick up a gun & some ammo?

  70. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    7) You are a teenager looking for a job. Your job interview is at the intersection of Fairmont Parkway and Red Bluff. How do you get from your school to your interview?

    Do you need to include the side trip to pick up a gun & some ammo?

  71. Tedtam Avatar

    I just picked two streets off a map. I was unaware of the neighborhood conditions.

  72. Tedtam Avatar

    I just picked two streets off a map. I was unaware of the neighborhood conditions.

  73. Katfish Avatar

    Seven ways Rick Perry would like to change the US Constitution.

    A couple are really good ideas. A couple actually have a decent shot. A couple are long shots.

  74. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Seven ways Rick Perry would like to change the US Constitution.
    A couple are really good ideas. A couple actually have a decent shot. A couple are long shots.

  75. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    #39 WB:

    7) You are a teenager looking for a job. Your job interview is at the intersection of Fairmont Parkway and Red Bluff. How do you get from your school to your interview?

    Do you need to include the side trip to pick up a gun & some ammo?

    The only thing currently standing at the intersection of Red Bluff and Fairmont Parkway is First Baptist Church of Pasadena. Not necessarily rife with available jobs (although they are looking for several teachers for their school) but also not a reason to pull out the firearms.

  76. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    #39 WB:

    7) You are a teenager looking for a job. Your job interview is at the intersection of Fairmont Parkway and Red Bluff. How do you get from your school to your interview?
    Do you need to include the side trip to pick up a gun & some ammo?

    The only thing currently standing at the intersection of Red Bluff and Fairmont Parkway is First Baptist Church of Pasadena. Not necessarily rife with available jobs (although they are looking for several teachers for their school) but also not a reason to pull out the firearms.

  77. Katfish Avatar

    Here’s a quick quiz. Who is the employer of the person who said this?

    “All the babies did outstanding.”

  78. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Here’s a quick quiz. Who is the employer of the person who said this?

    “All the babies did outstanding.”

  79. Katfish Avatar

    Another quick quick quiz. Who said this?

    “We have a policy of making anyone who attacks us pay dearly for it,” he added. “We are implementing this policy in the field.”

  80. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Another quick quick quiz. Who said this?

    “We have a policy of making anyone who attacks us pay dearly for it,” he added. “We are implementing this policy in the field.”

  81. Hamous Avatar

    Y’all are gonna love this. Good doggies.

  82. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Y’all are gonna love this. Good doggies.

  83. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    38 Sarge.. Obesity is a problem in the US across economic lines, but you have a fair point. We dole out the Food Stamps (or those Credit Card looking things) without demanding a little responsibility on the part of the user. We (society) are harming these folks by abdicating the supervisory role.

    Poor nutrition leads to obesity, diabetes, heart diease, ……………………………. This supervisory abdication will impact the taxpayer later on in the form of Medicaid payments to treat these problems.

    I know that I have raised the hackles of the “anti-nanny-staters”, but since we the taxpayers are footing the bill; we have a right to see the public funds are spent efficiently. Private citizens should still have the right to dine and drink like they are attending a 24/7/365 Bachanal; as long as they pay for their own food and drink and don’t ask me to subsidise their medical costs later on in life.

    Simple

  84. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    38 Sarge.. Obesity is a problem in the US across economic lines, but you have a fair point. We dole out the Food Stamps (or those Credit Card looking things) without demanding a little responsibility on the part of the user. We (society) are harming these folks by abdicating the supervisory role.
    Poor nutrition leads to obesity, diabetes, heart diease, ……………………………. This supervisory abdication will impact the taxpayer later on in the form of Medicaid payments to treat these problems.
    I know that I have raised the hackles of the “anti-nanny-staters”, but since we the taxpayers are footing the bill; we have a right to see the public funds are spent efficiently. Private citizens should still have the right to dine and drink like they are attending a 24/7/365 Bachanal; as long as they pay for their own food and drink and don’t ask me to subsidise their medical costs later on in life.
    Simple

  85. Hamous Avatar

    Simple, The problem with the school lunch program (one of many) is that it opens the flood gates for all other sorts of other govt programs. The schools are incentivized to have as many kids on subsidized lunches as possible because that number is used as a multiplier for federal dollars for other stuff. There is no incentive to make sure that only those who genuinely need it are the only ones who are getting it. These incentives artificially inflate the numbers of “the poor” and teach those who are so inclined to game the system. The system is designed to be abused because it gives the VSRs in DC more power with every additional enrollee.
    If you really want to get at the heart of the situation and address the root problem instead of the symptoms try the following:
    1) Make a survey of every participant in the food stamp and school lunch programs
    a) catalogue every tattoo, and gold tooth
    b) check as to how many TVs, video games, pairs of sneakers over $75 retail value are in possession of these “poor” people.
    2) Drug test every recipient of food stamps monthly and on a random basis – you fail, you get no check this month
    3) Any additional tattoos, TVs etc purchased will disqualify you for stamps for 2 months
    4) Program the bar code scanners to disallow all taxable items from food stamp dollars
    5) Make sure that the school lunch recipients are actually in need instead of simply lazy or are gaming the system.

    Someone asked Ben Franklin how to help people out of poverty and his suggestion was to Make them uncomfortable to be poor so as to incentivize them to do better.

  86. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Simple, The problem with the school lunch program (one of many) is that it opens the flood gates for all other sorts of other govt programs. The schools are incentivized to have as many kids on subsidized lunches as possible because that number is used as a multiplier for federal dollars for other stuff. There is no incentive to make sure that only those who genuinely need it are the only ones who are getting it. These incentives artificially inflate the numbers of “the poor” and teach those who are so inclined to game the system. The system is designed to be abused because it gives the VSRs in DC more power with every additional enrollee.
    If you really want to get at the heart of the situation and address the root problem instead of the symptoms try the following:
    1) Make a survey of every participant in the food stamp and school lunch programs
    a) catalogue every tattoo, and gold tooth
    b) check as to how many TVs, video games, pairs of sneakers over $75 retail value are in possession of these “poor” people.
    2) Drug test every recipient of food stamps monthly and on a random basis – you fail, you get no check this month
    3) Any additional tattoos, TVs etc purchased will disqualify you for stamps for 2 months
    4) Program the bar code scanners to disallow all taxable items from food stamp dollars
    5) Make sure that the school lunch recipients are actually in need instead of simply lazy or are gaming the system.
    Someone asked Ben Franklin how to help people out of poverty and his suggestion was to Make them uncomfortable to be poor so as to incentivize them to do better.

  87. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #46 Pyro
    You’re right, we did! 🙂

  88. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #46 Pyro
    You’re right, we did! 🙂

  89. Hamous Avatar

    #49 M420: Ya musta been in Bob420s stash again:>)

  90. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #49 M420: Ya musta been in Bob420s stash again:>)

  91. Tedtam Avatar

    #46

    Man, those dogs are having so much fun! And a lot more exercise than I’m getting, dang it!

  92. Tedtam Avatar

    #46
    Man, those dogs are having so much fun! And a lot more exercise than I’m getting, dang it!

  93. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Bones, just because I have 7 cats doesn’t mean I don’t like dogs! (Other people’s dogs).

    It’s been way too hot for it this summer, but I sometimes meet a friend and her golden retriever down at the dog park. This is a play date! They don’t have a skateboard pipe in this dog park, though.

    Where/how does a stash come into it?

  94. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Bones, just because I have 7 cats doesn’t mean I don’t like dogs! (Other people’s dogs).
    It’s been way too hot for it this summer, but I sometimes meet a friend and her golden retriever down at the dog park. This is a play date! They don’t have a skateboard pipe in this dog park, though.
    Where/how does a stash come into it?

  95. Hamous Avatar

    #52 M42: you called me pyro. I was one when I was a kid, but not anymore.

  96. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #52 M42: you called me pyro. I was one when I was a kid, but not anymore.

  97. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    We won the lottery late this afternoon. Got 5/100″ of rain–woo-hoo! However we kept the hoses dripping on the tree roots while it happened. Guess I don’t need to water the patio plants that got some rain since I watered them very well last night. Need to add about 2 gallons to the fountain tonight while it is reasonably pleasant out thanks to the rain. Got the horses rinsed this evening also. They are thankful.

    That cute surfing video in Bonecrusher’s #46 ended cleverly with two synchronized south ends heading north. 🙂

    Got Wagonburner’s #45 right without looking. You go Bibi.

  98. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    We won the lottery late this afternoon. Got 5/100″ of rain–woo-hoo! However we kept the hoses dripping on the tree roots while it happened. Guess I don’t need to water the patio plants that got some rain since I watered them very well last night. Need to add about 2 gallons to the fountain tonight while it is reasonably pleasant out thanks to the rain. Got the horses rinsed this evening also. They are thankful.
    That cute surfing video in Bonecrusher’s #46 ended cleverly with two synchronized south ends heading north. 🙂
    Got Wagonburner’s #45 right without looking. You go Bibi.

  99. Hamous Avatar

    Obummer: “Under my plan, electricity rates will necessarily skyrocket”
    Obummer: “We live in the greatest nation on the earth and I want you to help me make fundamental changes to it”
    We should have listened to him during the campaign.
    New EPA rules to mandate closing of some coal fired power plants.

    The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency last month finalized stronger regulations for Wisconsin and 26 other states aimed at curbing air pollution from long-distance sources.

    Environmental groups praised the new rule because it would reduce acid rain and air pollution as well as help curb health effects from dirty air linked to coal plants. The EPA projected the rule will save up to 34,000 lives a year and prevent more than 400,000 asthma attacks as well as 19,000 admissions to hospitals.

    Oh yeah we can really believe everything the EPA tells us can’t we? That is kind of like the 200,000 green jobs that have been created or saved due to Obummers policies /spits and pukes.

    Nationwide, the EPA estimated that utilities are projected to spend $800 million on the rule in 2014, in addition to $1.6 billion a year that’s been spent to satisfy an earlier version of the regulations.

    But the EPA estimates the nation will see $120 billion to $280 billion in annual health and welfare benefits beginning in 2014.

    What a staggering example of under and over estimation in only 2 sentences. Further, it is an example of stooooooopidity in that well , its just a little bit so industry should just eat it, it is no big deal.

  100. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Obummer: “Under my plan, electricity rates will necessarily skyrocket”
    Obummer: “We live in the greatest nation on the earth and I want you to help me make fundamental changes to it”
    We should have listened to him during the campaign.
    New EPA rules to mandate closing of some coal fired power plants.

    The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency last month finalized stronger regulations for Wisconsin and 26 other states aimed at curbing air pollution from long-distance sources.
    Environmental groups praised the new rule because it would reduce acid rain and air pollution as well as help curb health effects from dirty air linked to coal plants. The EPA projected the rule will save up to 34,000 lives a year and prevent more than 400,000 asthma attacks as well as 19,000 admissions to hospitals.

    Oh yeah we can really believe everything the EPA tells us can’t we? That is kind of like the 200,000 green jobs that have been created or saved due to Obummers policies /spits and pukes.

    Nationwide, the EPA estimated that utilities are projected to spend $800 million on the rule in 2014, in addition to $1.6 billion a year that’s been spent to satisfy an earlier version of the regulations.
    But the EPA estimates the nation will see $120 billion to $280 billion in annual health and welfare benefits beginning in 2014.

    What a staggering example of under and over estimation in only 2 sentences. Further, it is an example of stooooooopidity in that well , its just a little bit so industry should just eat it, it is no big deal.

  101. Katfish Avatar

    The 2/3 of of the hikers who were arrested by the Iranians a couple of years ago and still remain in the country have been sentenced to 8 years in prison.

    Must have been some spectacular scenery to see that they would want to hike around in a country that is in an actual war and venture that close to a country that is ruled by nuts.

  102. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    The 2/3 of of the hikers who were arrested by the Iranians a couple of years ago and still remain in the country have been sentenced to 8 years in prison.
    Must have been some spectacular scenery to see that they would want to hike around in a country that is in an actual war and venture that close to a country that is ruled by nuts.

  103. Hamous Avatar

    #56 Pyro: Those hikers musta been doing something else other than sight-seeing. There is no logical reason for them to be there if it was just sight seeing, they were/are spies or drooling morons, perhaps they were sent to “test the wires”, anyway you slice it, sight seeing doesn’t even get close to passing the smell test as to why they were there in the first place.
    We are not being told the real story, as usual.

  104. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #56 Pyro: Those hikers musta been doing something else other than sight-seeing. There is no logical reason for them to be there if it was just sight seeing, they were/are spies or drooling morons, perhaps they were sent to “test the wires”, anyway you slice it, sight seeing doesn’t even get close to passing the smell test as to why they were there in the first place.
    We are not being told the real story, as usual.

  105. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #53 Bones
    Sorry, I get things jumbled up sometimes while scrolling up and down. I still don’t understand the stash reference. 🙂

  106. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #53 Bones
    Sorry, I get things jumbled up sometimes while scrolling up and down. I still don’t understand the stash reference. 🙂

  107. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #54 Adee

    Got Wagonburner’s #45 right without looking. You go Bibi.

    Me too, sort of — thought it was some Israeli official, Netanyahu being the most likely.

    Glad you got a little rain. I did 3 hours this morning of sprinkler moving and some hand-watering around the curbs. It was exhausting, but knowing that was all I could legally do till Wednesday kept me motivated.

  108. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #54 Adee

    Got Wagonburner’s #45 right without looking. You go Bibi.

    Me too, sort of — thought it was some Israeli official, Netanyahu being the most likely.
    Glad you got a little rain. I did 3 hours this morning of sprinkler moving and some hand-watering around the curbs. It was exhausting, but knowing that was all I could legally do till Wednesday kept me motivated.

  109. Katfish Avatar

    #57 bone
    Never underestimate the capacity of people (especially young, idealistic graduates of UC Berkeley) to do stupid, ill-advised things. Rachel Corrie was ostensibly an intelligent young wimmin. What she had in philosophical book-learning, she lacked in applied common sense. She got smooshed by an Israeli D-9 as a result.

    They’re not spies; they are morons.

  110. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #57 bone
    Never underestimate the capacity of people (especially young, idealistic graduates of UC Berkeley) to do stupid, ill-advised things. Rachel Corrie was ostensibly an intelligent young wimmin. What she had in philosophical book-learning, she lacked in applied common sense. She got smooshed by an Israeli D-9 as a result.
    They’re not spies; they are morons.

  111. Katfish Avatar

    Got Wagonburner’s #45 right without looking. You go Bibi.

    Me too, sort of — thought it was some Israeli official, Netanyahu being the most likely.

    How’d you do on the other mini-quiz?

  112. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Got Wagonburner’s #45 right without looking. You go Bibi.

    Me too, sort of — thought it was some Israeli official, Netanyahu being the most likely.

    How’d you do on the other mini-quiz?

  113. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #56 Pyro
    Me, I have no sympathy for these dudes. Play with fire, don’t ask me to kiss your burns and boo-boos. They took a chance, they lost, tough. Maybe your mommies will keep a light on for you just in case you ever get back home.

  114. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #56 Pyro
    Me, I have no sympathy for these dudes. Play with fire, don’t ask me to kiss your burns and boo-boos. They took a chance, they lost, tough. Maybe your mommies will keep a light on for you just in case you ever get back home.

  115. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #61 Pyro

    The #44 quiz brought nothing to mind on reading the question. After I looked at the link, all I could think was, what a goofy event.

  116. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #61 Pyro
    The #44 quiz brought nothing to mind on reading the question. After I looked at the link, all I could think was, what a goofy event.

  117. Katfish Avatar

    all I could think was, what a goofy event.

    As are many charity events. The services hold all kinds of these sorts of events for charity and morale (including that of the families). They can be goofy, but they really serve a multitude of purposes.

    Besides, those were some outstanding babies!

  118. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    all I could think was, what a goofy event.

    As are many charity events. The services hold all kinds of these sorts of events for charity and morale (including that of the families). They can be goofy, but they really serve a multitude of purposes.
    Besides, those were some outstanding babies!

  119. phil Avatar
    phil

    Sometimes you gotta wonder if there really is…

  120. phil Avatar
    phil

    Sometimes you gotta wonder if there really is…

  121. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    Bonehead,

    You said:

    1) Make a survey of every participant in the food stamp and school lunch programs
    a) catalogue every tattoo, and gold tooth
    b) check as to how many TVs, video games, pairs of sneakers over $75 retail value are in possession of these “poor” people.
    2) Drug test every recipient of food stamps monthly and on a random basis – you fail, you get no check this month
    3) Any additional tattoos, TVs etc purchased will disqualify you for stamps for 2 months
    4) Program the bar code scanners to disallow all taxable items from food stamp dollars
    5) Make sure that the school lunch recipients are actually in need instead of simply lazy or are gaming the system.

    I am a pretty old guy, but every morning I get to deliver my special needs grand daughter to her elementary school. I have been doing this for four years since Pre-K. I know a good number of the kids by sight; they certainly know my little angel.

    A significant portion of the kids in this east end school are on the school breakfast/lunch program. The school does try to work to get kids enrolled on it and they do it for a lot more reasons than the one you listed. I am sure they like to pack the numbers, but I will also tell you that some of the kids arrive barely dressed and prepared because the parents are still drug addled from the night before. The school Breakfast /Lunch program ensures that these kids get at least two meals a day.

    I have yet to see a single set of “sparked out” teeth on any of the kids at the elementary. This may not be the case at the high school. I am sure there are a few. I am also sure that a fair number of the kids have had braces, which I can tell you are not cheap. Suppose a family ran into a rough patch and had to go to welfare and the school lunch program. Would the fact the kid’s or the parent’s teeth were straightened during better times disqualify them for assistance.

    The same applies to personal belongings. My angel has three half brothers who live in East Texas with an assortment of crack heads and yes they are on the dole. Do you disqualify these kids for the gifts that I and their other relatives gave them at Christmas?

    I have mixed feelings about the drug testing. I am certainly in favor of it if the recipient is in public housing, but cutting the parents off of food stamps and welfare will punish the children too. P.S. Drug Testing is not cheap.

    I have not seen any tattoos on the elementary kids yet. I believe that it is illegal to get a tattoo if you are under the age of eighteen, but someone correct me if I am wrong.

    As to the bar code scanners…You bet. Anything to make sure that food is purchased. I would take that further and disallow junk food, but first someone is going to have to create a practical definition of what constitutes junk food. I love saurkraut, but for the life of me, I can’t find a single redeeming quality for it once you look at the salt content. Luckily for me I can afford to buy it; although Ms Simple disagrees.

    The bigger problem are the “Mom & Pop” lower tier groceries in the poorer areas that take food stamps at 30 – 50 cents on the dollar, document sham food purchases, and give the holders cash to buy drugs/booze/whatever. Go after these folks and you will eliminate a fair portion of the corruption.

    Simple

  122. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    Bonehead,
    You said:

    1) Make a survey of every participant in the food stamp and school lunch programs
    a) catalogue every tattoo, and gold tooth
    b) check as to how many TVs, video games, pairs of sneakers over $75 retail value are in possession of these “poor” people.
    2) Drug test every recipient of food stamps monthly and on a random basis – you fail, you get no check this month
    3) Any additional tattoos, TVs etc purchased will disqualify you for stamps for 2 months
    4) Program the bar code scanners to disallow all taxable items from food stamp dollars
    5) Make sure that the school lunch recipients are actually in need instead of simply lazy or are gaming the system.

    I am a pretty old guy, but every morning I get to deliver my special needs grand daughter to her elementary school. I have been doing this for four years since Pre-K. I know a good number of the kids by sight; they certainly know my little angel.
    A significant portion of the kids in this east end school are on the school breakfast/lunch program. The school does try to work to get kids enrolled on it and they do it for a lot more reasons than the one you listed. I am sure they like to pack the numbers, but I will also tell you that some of the kids arrive barely dressed and prepared because the parents are still drug addled from the night before. The school Breakfast /Lunch program ensures that these kids get at least two meals a day.
    I have yet to see a single set of “sparked out” teeth on any of the kids at the elementary. This may not be the case at the high school. I am sure there are a few. I am also sure that a fair number of the kids have had braces, which I can tell you are not cheap. Suppose a family ran into a rough patch and had to go to welfare and the school lunch program. Would the fact the kid’s or the parent’s teeth were straightened during better times disqualify them for assistance.
    The same applies to personal belongings. My angel has three half brothers who live in East Texas with an assortment of crack heads and yes they are on the dole. Do you disqualify these kids for the gifts that I and their other relatives gave them at Christmas?
    I have mixed feelings about the drug testing. I am certainly in favor of it if the recipient is in public housing, but cutting the parents off of food stamps and welfare will punish the children too. P.S. Drug Testing is not cheap.
    I have not seen any tattoos on the elementary kids yet. I believe that it is illegal to get a tattoo if you are under the age of eighteen, but someone correct me if I am wrong.
    As to the bar code scanners…You bet. Anything to make sure that food is purchased. I would take that further and disallow junk food, but first someone is going to have to create a practical definition of what constitutes junk food. I love saurkraut, but for the life of me, I can’t find a single redeeming quality for it once you look at the salt content. Luckily for me I can afford to buy it; although Ms Simple disagrees.
    The bigger problem are the “Mom & Pop” lower tier groceries in the poorer areas that take food stamps at 30 – 50 cents on the dollar, document sham food purchases, and give the holders cash to buy drugs/booze/whatever. Go after these folks and you will eliminate a fair portion of the corruption.
    Simple

  123. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #20 – OMG ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    Buy that Gent a BEER!

  124. Katfish Avatar

    #20 – OMG ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
    Buy that Gent a BEER!

  125. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    As are many charity events. The services hold all kinds of these sorts of events for charity and morale (including that of the families). They can be goofy, but they really serve a multitude of purposes.

    How do you get a lot of people to show up and donate food?

    You think up something crazy and fun. That’s what our Pastor did.

    (Even if it is hopeless and private food donations won’t help the hungry—-you need the GOVERNMENT to do that).

    RICHMOND, TX. River Pointe Church in Richmond, Texas has officially broken the Guinness World RecordTM for the largest potluck dinner ever held. The event was held in part to assist the community by stocking the food bank in North Richmond. Participants were asked to “Bring a dish to make history and bring canned goods to make a difference.” River Pointe members and families from the community provided 808 registered potluck dishes and an estimated 4,000 pounds of non-perishable food for the Helping Hands food bank (with two days still left for donations). This record-breaking event took place, Saturday, August 20, 2011 at 6:00 p.m. and is part of River Pointe’s Annual “Experience The River” weekend.

    The previous World Record for a Pot Luck Dinner was 479. There were some very strict requirements to achieve the record, and there were reps from the Guikness Book ther to oversee the effort. The number of 805 was registered participants, and in order to qualify for that, you had to bring a dish for the Pot Luck. If you didn’t bring a dish, you weren’t registered, so its reasonable to assume that well over 1000 people attended the event—most of them bringing a donation of canned food for the food bank.

    And it won’t be hard to tell what kinds of food will be given to those in need. We were all sent and email that told us what kinds of food to bring:

    •green beans
    •dry soup
    •pork ‘n beans
    •flour
    •rice

    We’re not the only church in Fort Bend County, neither are we the largest. But we collected two tons of food for poor people in one afternoon, and will collect even more in the two services we hold today, and we hold these drives four times a year. I beleive it would be fair to say that all of the churches in the county do that or something similar—-and that dosen’t count the financial and in kind donations the church makes, nor the volunteer time given during mission events.

    Such efforts at feeding the poor are much better managed and effective than Government trying to achieve the same ends. It is done with volunteer effort (rather than paid government workers) and is focused directly on local needs rather than on the design of a one size fits all program that will “work all across the nation.”

    Put simply, the Government sucks at giving charity. We should stop doing it and put it back in the hands of people who do it better.

  126. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    As are many charity events. The services hold all kinds of these sorts of events for charity and morale (including that of the families). They can be goofy, but they really serve a multitude of purposes.

    How do you get a lot of people to show up and donate food?
    You think up something crazy and fun. That’s what our Pastor did.
    (Even if it is hopeless and private food donations won’t help the hungry—-you need the GOVERNMENT to do that).

    RICHMOND, TX. River Pointe Church in Richmond, Texas has officially broken the Guinness World RecordTM for the largest potluck dinner ever held. The event was held in part to assist the community by stocking the food bank in North Richmond. Participants were asked to “Bring a dish to make history and bring canned goods to make a difference.” River Pointe members and families from the community provided 808 registered potluck dishes and an estimated 4,000 pounds of non-perishable food for the Helping Hands food bank (with two days still left for donations). This record-breaking event took place, Saturday, August 20, 2011 at 6:00 p.m. and is part of River Pointe’s Annual “Experience The River” weekend.

    The previous World Record for a Pot Luck Dinner was 479. There were some very strict requirements to achieve the record, and there were reps from the Guikness Book ther to oversee the effort. The number of 805 was registered participants, and in order to qualify for that, you had to bring a dish for the Pot Luck. If you didn’t bring a dish, you weren’t registered, so its reasonable to assume that well over 1000 people attended the event—most of them bringing a donation of canned food for the food bank.
    And it won’t be hard to tell what kinds of food will be given to those in need. We were all sent and email that told us what kinds of food to bring:

    •green beans
    •dry soup
    •pork ‘n beans
    •flour
    •rice

    We’re not the only church in Fort Bend County, neither are we the largest. But we collected two tons of food for poor people in one afternoon, and will collect even more in the two services we hold today, and we hold these drives four times a year. I beleive it would be fair to say that all of the churches in the county do that or something similar—-and that dosen’t count the financial and in kind donations the church makes, nor the volunteer time given during mission events.
    Such efforts at feeding the poor are much better managed and effective than Government trying to achieve the same ends. It is done with volunteer effort (rather than paid government workers) and is focused directly on local needs rather than on the design of a one size fits all program that will “work all across the nation.”
    Put simply, the Government sucks at giving charity. We should stop doing it and put it back in the hands of people who do it better.

  127. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    TT, some very funny stuff there!

  128. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    TT, some very funny stuff there!

  129. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Mark Steyn; The Imperial Presidency.

    Why exactly does the president need a 40-car escort to drive past his subjects in Dead Moose Junction? It doesn’t communicate strength, but only waste, and decadence. Are these vehicles filled with “aides” working round the clock on his super-secret magic plan to “create” “jobs” that King Barack the Growth-Slayer is planning to lay before Congress in the fall or winter, spring, whatever? If the argument is that the president cannot travel without that level of security, I note that Prince William and his lovely bride did not require a 40-car motorcade on their recent visit to Los Angeles, and there are at least as many people on the planet who want a piece of Wills and Kate as do of Obama. Like the president, the couple made do with Canuck transportation, but in their case they flew in and out on a Royal Canadian Air Force transport described as “no more luxurious than a good motor home”: The shower is the size of a pay phone. It did not seem to diminish Her Royal Highness’s glamour.

    😀

  130. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Mark Steyn; The Imperial Presidency.

    Why exactly does the president need a 40-car escort to drive past his subjects in Dead Moose Junction? It doesn’t communicate strength, but only waste, and decadence. Are these vehicles filled with “aides” working round the clock on his super-secret magic plan to “create” “jobs” that King Barack the Growth-Slayer is planning to lay before Congress in the fall or winter, spring, whatever? If the argument is that the president cannot travel without that level of security, I note that Prince William and his lovely bride did not require a 40-car motorcade on their recent visit to Los Angeles, and there are at least as many people on the planet who want a piece of Wills and Kate as do of Obama. Like the president, the couple made do with Canuck transportation, but in their case they flew in and out on a Royal Canadian Air Force transport described as “no more luxurious than a good motor home”: The shower is the size of a pay phone. It did not seem to diminish Her Royal Highness’s glamour.

    😀

  131. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Judge in Illinois rules to eliminate Catholic Charities contract to place children in foster care and provide adoption services – they discriminate against gays you know. IMHO, just another effort to take God (who is the grantor of our constitutional rights) out of the American equation in order to further more government control over our lives.

    http://www.christianpost.com/news/judge-rules-against-catholic-charities-in-illinois-adoption-case-54209/

  132. El Gordo Avatar

    Judge in Illinois rules to eliminate Catholic Charities contract to place children in foster care and provide adoption services – they discriminate against gays you know. IMHO, just another effort to take God (who is the grantor of our constitutional rights) out of the American equation in order to further more government control over our lives.
    http://www.christianpost.com/news/judge-rules-against-catholic-charities-in-illinois-adoption-case-54209/

  133. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Good morning Hamsters. A balmy 74 and reasonably dry morning until about 8:30 greeted us before the mugglies set in. Yesterday afternoon’s miniscule rain must have been responsible for the break, and amazingly things look a tad greener today. What was already green that is, not anything in the Moonscape pastures. A light breeze ruffles the front porch banners, and a pair of bluejays flit about in the front yard. This can’t possibly be stretched into a delusional belief there is a hint of fall in the air. Just because some leaves are getting yellowish and falling off is not evidence of anything other than extreme drought. And last night’s forecast showed nothing but 100s all the coming week. 🙁

    Mark Steyn’s Imperial Presidency piece is a hoot (#71). Leave it to Mark to craft equisitely biting and amusing commentary on the Darth Vader Blundebus wagon train and the Maaatha’s Vineyard escape to groupie land. All is to paint over the scene of serious financial ruin at our door that Obama the Unready can’t handle. This seems to be a shining example of the benefit of a parliamentary system that can replace a failed government without having to wait fretfully for the next election.

  134. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Good morning Hamsters. A balmy 74 and reasonably dry morning until about 8:30 greeted us before the mugglies set in. Yesterday afternoon’s miniscule rain must have been responsible for the break, and amazingly things look a tad greener today. What was already green that is, not anything in the Moonscape pastures. A light breeze ruffles the front porch banners, and a pair of bluejays flit about in the front yard. This can’t possibly be stretched into a delusional belief there is a hint of fall in the air. Just because some leaves are getting yellowish and falling off is not evidence of anything other than extreme drought. And last night’s forecast showed nothing but 100s all the coming week. 🙁
    Mark Steyn’s Imperial Presidency piece is a hoot (#71). Leave it to Mark to craft equisitely biting and amusing commentary on the Darth Vader Blundebus wagon train and the Maaatha’s Vineyard escape to groupie land. All is to paint over the scene of serious financial ruin at our door that Obama the Unready can’t handle. This seems to be a shining example of the benefit of a parliamentary system that can replace a failed government without having to wait fretfully for the next election.

  135. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #73 Adee
    You are outdoing yourself with some of these new dead-on labels! My favoites of late: the Blunderbus. Obama the Unready is priceless! 🙂

  136. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #73 Adee
    You are outdoing yourself with some of these new dead-on labels! My favoites of late: the Blunderbus. Obama the Unready is priceless! 🙂

  137. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    mharper42, He he he, we can probably ascribe it to the heat. Was thinking of Ethelred the Unready, King of England, who was not amongst the leading monarchs of that realm. Also thinking of the Pilgrims carrying a blunderbus as a weapon as pictured in paintings. As I understand it, this weapon was a forerunner of the shotgun and was quite effective, silly and klutzy though it looks to modern observers. Just a small twist on the meanings, and there you have them. 🙂

  138. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    mharper42, He he he, we can probably ascribe it to the heat. Was thinking of Ethelred the Unready, King of England, who was not amongst the leading monarchs of that realm. Also thinking of the Pilgrims carrying a blunderbus as a weapon as pictured in paintings. As I understand it, this weapon was a forerunner of the shotgun and was quite effective, silly and klutzy though it looks to modern observers. Just a small twist on the meanings, and there you have them. 🙂

  139. Hamous Avatar

    Simpleton: As usual you miss the salient points:

    I am sure they like to pack the numbers, but I will also tell you that some of the kids arrive barely dressed and prepared because the parents are still drug addled from the night before. The school Breakfast /Lunch program ensures that these kids get at least two meals a day.

    We all know they pack the numbers because it is in their financial interests to do so; not to mention that it feeds their ideological proclivities because the libs ( which wissin dominate education at all levels) needs big “poverty” numbers to further their goals.

    I have yet to see a single set of “sparked out” teeth on any of the kids at the elementary. This may not be the case at the high school. I am sure there are a few.

    I challenge you to show me where I ever even hinted at the children possessing mouth bling, I am speaking of the parents. The mouth bling on the parents has no other function than earrings have, purely decoration.

    I am sure they like to pack the numbers, but I will also tell you that some of the kids arrive barely dressed and prepared because the parents are still drug addled from the night before.

    You have touched on the root of the problem- they are poor because they choose to stay on dope or alcohol (which is really the same thing); the kids are suffering because the “parents” are doped out leeches on society.

    I am also sure that a fair number of the kids have had braces, which I can tell you are not cheap.

    I have no problem what-so-ever helping out kids get straight teeth. This is a case where the dental work actually serves a purpose, not so with the mouth bling.

    Suppose a family ran into a rough patch and had to go to welfare and the school lunch program. Would the fact the kid’s or the parent’s teeth were straightened during better times disqualify them for assistance.

    Not really worthy of comment.

    I have not seen any tattoos on the elementary kids yet. I believe that it is illegal to get a tattoo if you are under the age of eighteen, but someone correct me if I am wrong.

    Ditto above; the focus is on the “parents” who are irresponsible. Why do I have to take up the slack for irresponsible parents and their whom I do not even know? That is the job for family and private charity NOT THE WISSIN GOVERNMENT

    I have mixed feelings about the drug testing. I am certainly in favor of it if the recipient is in public housing, but cutting the parents off of food stamps and welfare will punish the children too. P.S. Drug Testing is not cheap.

    I bought a kit for my son (he passed) and it was $50 full pop retail at Walgreens. I don’t think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out that if these were purchased in bulk from the mfgr, one could get the cost down to around $25/test. The testing would be self funding, if you fail, no money. Yes the children would suffer, perhaps the suffering of the children will induce the parents to be more responsible. Yes it sucks but life is hard and cruel and what we are doing now does not wissin work. We have 3rd and 4th generation welfare parasites who have never had an example of success other than drug dealing or sports. We have to change the approach or we will continue to get the same crappy results. When those kids grow up who had to go to bed hungry because their parent(s) were irresponsible VSRs they will prolly think twice about engaging in the same destructive behavior.
    Bottom line: It is not my responsibility to take care of another’s children because they choose to be irresponsible drug addicts/drunks. When the govt takes my tax dollars by force and gives it to those who engage in that destructive behavior the following happens:
    1) I have less money to support my own family
    2) The bad behavior is rewarded with free money
    3) The govt grows dramatically; the overhead for the welfare system is around 70-80%. So in order to give $2 to a “needy” family the govt takes $10 from me and keeps the rest –THAT IS NOT COMPASSION IT IS EXTORTION!!
    4) Because the govt bleeds my money wastefully, and I see that the problems are getting worse instead of better with each additional govt dollar spent in this fashion; I am far less inclined to give from what is left (if any is left) after I support my own family and live within my limited means.

    Is your special needs granddaughter the product of your addicted daughter’s bad behavior? I am not trying to be cruel, I am trying to establish cause and effect. Bad behavior produces bad effects.

  140. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Simpleton: As usual you miss the salient points:

    I am sure they like to pack the numbers, but I will also tell you that some of the kids arrive barely dressed and prepared because the parents are still drug addled from the night before. The school Breakfast /Lunch program ensures that these kids get at least two meals a day.

    We all know they pack the numbers because it is in their financial interests to do so; not to mention that it feeds their ideological proclivities because the libs ( which wissin dominate education at all levels) needs big “poverty” numbers to further their goals.

    I have yet to see a single set of “sparked out” teeth on any of the kids at the elementary. This may not be the case at the high school. I am sure there are a few.

    I challenge you to show me where I ever even hinted at the children possessing mouth bling, I am speaking of the parents. The mouth bling on the parents has no other function than earrings have, purely decoration.

    I am sure they like to pack the numbers, but I will also tell you that some of the kids arrive barely dressed and prepared because the parents are still drug addled from the night before.

    You have touched on the root of the problem- they are poor because they choose to stay on dope or alcohol (which is really the same thing); the kids are suffering because the “parents” are doped out leeches on society.

    I am also sure that a fair number of the kids have had braces, which I can tell you are not cheap.

    I have no problem what-so-ever helping out kids get straight teeth. This is a case where the dental work actually serves a purpose, not so with the mouth bling.

    Suppose a family ran into a rough patch and had to go to welfare and the school lunch program. Would the fact the kid’s or the parent’s teeth were straightened during better times disqualify them for assistance.

    Not really worthy of comment.

    I have not seen any tattoos on the elementary kids yet. I believe that it is illegal to get a tattoo if you are under the age of eighteen, but someone correct me if I am wrong.

    Ditto above; the focus is on the “parents” who are irresponsible. Why do I have to take up the slack for irresponsible parents and their whom I do not even know? That is the job for family and private charity NOT THE WISSIN GOVERNMENT

    I have mixed feelings about the drug testing. I am certainly in favor of it if the recipient is in public housing, but cutting the parents off of food stamps and welfare will punish the children too. P.S. Drug Testing is not cheap.

    I bought a kit for my son (he passed) and it was $50 full pop retail at Walgreens. I don’t think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out that if these were purchased in bulk from the mfgr, one could get the cost down to around $25/test. The testing would be self funding, if you fail, no money. Yes the children would suffer, perhaps the suffering of the children will induce the parents to be more responsible. Yes it sucks but life is hard and cruel and what we are doing now does not wissin work. We have 3rd and 4th generation welfare parasites who have never had an example of success other than drug dealing or sports. We have to change the approach or we will continue to get the same crappy results. When those kids grow up who had to go to bed hungry because their parent(s) were irresponsible VSRs they will prolly think twice about engaging in the same destructive behavior.
    Bottom line: It is not my responsibility to take care of another’s children because they choose to be irresponsible drug addicts/drunks. When the govt takes my tax dollars by force and gives it to those who engage in that destructive behavior the following happens:
    1) I have less money to support my own family
    2) The bad behavior is rewarded with free money
    3) The govt grows dramatically; the overhead for the welfare system is around 70-80%. So in order to give $2 to a “needy” family the govt takes $10 from me and keeps the rest –THAT IS NOT COMPASSION IT IS EXTORTION!!
    4) Because the govt bleeds my money wastefully, and I see that the problems are getting worse instead of better with each additional govt dollar spent in this fashion; I am far less inclined to give from what is left (if any is left) after I support my own family and live within my limited means.
    Is your special needs granddaughter the product of your addicted daughter’s bad behavior? I am not trying to be cruel, I am trying to establish cause and effect. Bad behavior produces bad effects.

  141. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #76 Bones
    Good work of analysis & response to Simple. Some of his posting was pure-dee irrelevant e.g. all that stuff about dental work.

    But do you agree with me that weaning the leeches off the gubmint gravy train can *only* be done in slow stages? And it will take strong & steady conservative voices to explain what is happening, in view of the absolute sh!t-storm that will be thrown up by the LSM.

  142. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #76 Bones
    Good work of analysis & response to Simple. Some of his posting was pure-dee irrelevant e.g. all that stuff about dental work.
    But do you agree with me that weaning the leeches off the gubmint gravy train can *only* be done in slow stages? And it will take strong & steady conservative voices to explain what is happening, in view of the absolute sh!t-storm that will be thrown up by the LSM.

  143. Tedtam Avatar

    I feel the need to get out of Dodge for a while. Somebody, hep me! Beach or driving trip? I have to be back this evening, of course.

  144. Tedtam Avatar

    I feel the need to get out of Dodge for a while. Somebody, hep me! Beach or driving trip? I have to be back this evening, of course.

  145. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    78
    If I was as close to the bay/beach as you are, that would be my choice.
    Often.
    It’s the earthly pursuit that soothes my soul like nothing else.

  146. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    78
    If I was as close to the bay/beach as you are, that would be my choice.
    Often.
    It’s the earthly pursuit that soothes my soul like nothing else.

  147. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    My dentist offered gold or non-gold at the same price last time I needed a crown. The gold is more durable and lasts forever. The other is subject to breaks/chips. I got the gold because it was a molar and would not show.

    I bet the price isn’t even close to being the same now.

  148. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    My dentist offered gold or non-gold at the same price last time I needed a crown. The gold is more durable and lasts forever. The other is subject to breaks/chips. I got the gold because it was a molar and would not show.
    I bet the price isn’t even close to being the same now.

  149. Hamous Avatar

    #77 M42: You are correct that stopping “cold turkey” would cause a whole new slew of problems. I can see how a weaning of 2-3 years, coupled with job training, would go a real long way to ending the chronic welfare mentality. Whenever I hear someone throw up the BS screen of “but its for the children” I wanna puke. It is not my responsibility to pay for your children -period. It does not take a village to raise a child, it takes a family, ideally 2 parents, to raise a child. If you let the village attempt to raise the child the next generation is screwed.

  150. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #77 M42: You are correct that stopping “cold turkey” would cause a whole new slew of problems. I can see how a weaning of 2-3 years, coupled with job training, would go a real long way to ending the chronic welfare mentality. Whenever I hear someone throw up the BS screen of “but its for the children” I wanna puke. It is not my responsibility to pay for your children -period. It does not take a village to raise a child, it takes a family, ideally 2 parents, to raise a child. If you let the village attempt to raise the child the next generation is screwed.

  151. Hamous Avatar

    #77 M42: The LSM is full of socialists and we all know that. The answer is to bypass the LSM via facebook, twitter, talk radio, etc. When we are forced to appear in the LSM, we don’t take the bait and stick to the points and don’t let them play the sympathy and or race cards. We need to speak of the abject failures of govt interference, how each additional dollar spent on the failed programs makes the situation that much worse; and we need to make people pay the consequences for bad behavior/decisions. If there are no negative consequences, you have lost the most effective behavior modification tool.

  152. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #77 M42: The LSM is full of socialists and we all know that. The answer is to bypass the LSM via facebook, twitter, talk radio, etc. When we are forced to appear in the LSM, we don’t take the bait and stick to the points and don’t let them play the sympathy and or race cards. We need to speak of the abject failures of govt interference, how each additional dollar spent on the failed programs makes the situation that much worse; and we need to make people pay the consequences for bad behavior/decisions. If there are no negative consequences, you have lost the most effective behavior modification tool.

  153. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Well it’s is a slow day today and that’s a good thing because everyone is making deposits in the ole memory bank. I just got through cleaning my Para 45 GI Expert and my new toy, North American Arms 22/22Mag. We had a great time up at the deer lease, got the grass cut, what little that there was, and put out some salt licks. Fired about 100 rounds through the 45 and 50 or so in the little Derringer. We got there by 9:15 and left about 1:30 so we kinda’ beat the heat. BTW; It is DRY up there, both Spinny Creek and Cedar Creek were plum dried up. They are small, what we’d call a Branch in Alabama and they meet on the north side of our place and flow into Flat Fork Creek, which had only a few puddles buy NO running water. I’ve never seen it this dry up there, some the north side is usually under water in the spring.
    Oh and Afternoon Gang. 😉

  154. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Well it’s is a slow day today and that’s a good thing because everyone is making deposits in the ole memory bank. I just got through cleaning my Para 45 GI Expert and my new toy, North American Arms 22/22Mag. We had a great time up at the deer lease, got the grass cut, what little that there was, and put out some salt licks. Fired about 100 rounds through the 45 and 50 or so in the little Derringer. We got there by 9:15 and left about 1:30 so we kinda’ beat the heat. BTW; It is DRY up there, both Spinny Creek and Cedar Creek were plum dried up. They are small, what we’d call a Branch in Alabama and they meet on the north side of our place and flow into Flat Fork Creek, which had only a few puddles buy NO running water. I’ve never seen it this dry up there, some the north side is usually under water in the spring.
    Oh and Afternoon Gang. 😉

  155. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #76 Bonecrusher, Ding, Ding, Ding. We have a winner, you hit the nail on the head! Don Pardo, what has our local Sadist won?
    You have to remember, Simple is a good man and I agree with him about 80% of the time BUTT he still has a little streak of “Old southern Democrat” in him. IE he loves FDR, who kept the US in the depression for 10 more years than necessary. The New Deal did NOTHING to end the Depression, WW II did that. And we are left with SSI. 🙁

  156. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #76 Bonecrusher, Ding, Ding, Ding. We have a winner, you hit the nail on the head! Don Pardo, what has our local Sadist won?
    You have to remember, Simple is a good man and I agree with him about 80% of the time BUTT he still has a little streak of “Old southern Democrat” in him. IE he loves FDR, who kept the US in the depression for 10 more years than necessary. The New Deal did NOTHING to end the Depression, WW II did that. And we are left with SSI. 🙁

  157. Katfish Avatar

    #84 Dave
    The only way WWII ended the depression is by keeping FDR & his boys otherwise occupied. The depression actually ended in about 1948 or so. It helped a lot that the US had the only intact manufacturing base.

  158. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #84 Dave
    The only way WWII ended the depression is by keeping FDR & his boys otherwise occupied. The depression actually ended in about 1948 or so. It helped a lot that the US had the only intact manufacturing base.

  159. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Bonecrusher;

    #76;

    Nice comeback.

    #46;

    Fun video of the surfing puppies.

    But it’s your #55 which is absolutely brilliant. Here’s why,. 😉

  160. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Bonecrusher;
    #76;
    Nice comeback.
    #46;
    Fun video of the surfing puppies.
    But it’s your #55 which is absolutely brilliant. Here’s why,. 😉

  161. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Thought by now there would be some activity on the Couch, but looks like the whole crew has Gone Galt this weekend. Guess I’ll finish the Sunday crossword.

  162. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Thought by now there would be some activity on the Couch, but looks like the whole crew has Gone Galt this weekend. Guess I’ll finish the Sunday crossword.

  163. Hamous Avatar

    M42, Dave, Darren: Many thanks your kind words. I got nothing against Simple on a personal level, I don’t even know him but I would like to. Mayhaps that can be fixed at the next real life couch meeting. Lets do that on a sunday in October so it ain’t so wissin hot.

  164. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    M42, Dave, Darren: Many thanks your kind words. I got nothing against Simple on a personal level, I don’t even know him but I would like to. Mayhaps that can be fixed at the next real life couch meeting. Lets do that on a sunday in October so it ain’t so wissin hot.

  165. Hamous Avatar

    Maxine Waters: ‘The tea party can go straight to hell’

    Linkie here.
    You first Beyotch!

  166. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Maxine Waters: ‘The tea party can go straight to hell’

    Linkie here.
    You first Beyotch!

  167. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #87 mharper42, Remember Erie = the land of Irish Kings, a canal, Ashtabula’s waterfront, and don’t forget my favorite Palindrome; Able was I ere I saw Elba. Also remember any two or three letters thrown together is a river SOMEWHERE! 😉
    FWIW; I’m a world Champion Crossword Puzzle nut. I do love the New York times Friday Xword! The best in the world,….I do miss “Isaac Asimov” the smartest wordsmith I’ve ever known, he edited most of the NY Times Crosswords that I loved so much. RIP Isaac! you gave me many hours of challenge, frustration and excitement.

  168. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #87 mharper42, Remember Erie = the land of Irish Kings, a canal, Ashtabula’s waterfront, and don’t forget my favorite Palindrome; Able was I ere I saw Elba. Also remember any two or three letters thrown together is a river SOMEWHERE! 😉
    FWIW; I’m a world Champion Crossword Puzzle nut. I do love the New York times Friday Xword! The best in the world,….I do miss “Isaac Asimov” the smartest wordsmith I’ve ever known, he edited most of the NY Times Crosswords that I loved so much. RIP Isaac! you gave me many hours of challenge, frustration and excitement.

  169. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #90 SD: GEEK!~

  170. Hamous Avatar

    It looks like the worn-out drag queen Qadaffi is finished. Now we have another festering cesspool of mooooooooooooooooooslim brotherhood scumbags thinking of ways to thwart civilization.

  171. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    It looks like the worn-out drag queen Qadaffi is finished. Now we have another festering cesspool of mooooooooooooooooooslim brotherhood scumbags thinking of ways to thwart civilization.

  172. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #91

    #90 SD: GEEK!~

    Yah butt, I’m still a registered “RED NECK” bloodline goes back MANY generations! 😀

  173. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #91

    #90 SD: GEEK!~

    Yah butt, I’m still a registered “RED NECK” bloodline goes back MANY generations! 😀

  174. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Yah butt, I’m still a registered “RED NECK” bloodline goes back MANY generations!

    No matter, you still outted yer “all that” self.

  175. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Yah butt, I’m still a registered “RED NECK” bloodline goes back MANY generations!

    No matter, you still outted yer “all that” self.

  176. Tedtam Avatar

    I wanted to do beach, but I’d want to spend more than just a few hours if I was going. Ended up at Sam Houston National Forest – always wanted to see it. It’s a big place. I was amazed at how absolutely quiet it was. I don’t know if it was the heat, drought, or both, but for the longest time all I saw was a few crows and they weren’t cawing. A few cars and campers, that was it. I didn’t get to stop and walk much, just drove around. I’d like to go back in the fall, when it’s cooler.

  177. Tedtam Avatar

    I wanted to do beach, but I’d want to spend more than just a few hours if I was going. Ended up at Sam Houston National Forest – always wanted to see it. It’s a big place. I was amazed at how absolutely quiet it was. I don’t know if it was the heat, drought, or both, but for the longest time all I saw was a few crows and they weren’t cawing. A few cars and campers, that was it. I didn’t get to stop and walk much, just drove around. I’d like to go back in the fall, when it’s cooler.

  178. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    100 😉

  179. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    100 😉

  180. Hamous Avatar

    I heard it on Fox this am that the Qadaffi fambily managed to secure $70 BILLION in graft and corruption during his 40 year stint as “leader”. there is still no word as to the where-abouts of the worn-out drag queen Muhommar or what ever the heck his name is. I think right about now in Lybia his name is synonomous with dog-schizzle.

  181. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    I heard it on Fox this am that the Qadaffi fambily managed to secure $70 BILLION in graft and corruption during his 40 year stint as “leader”. there is still no word as to the where-abouts of the worn-out drag queen Muhommar or what ever the heck his name is. I think right about now in Lybia his name is synonomous with dog-schizzle.

  182. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Collusion! But I am glad that Dave finally got a #100. Where was Tim?

  183. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Collusion! But I am glad that Dave finally got a #100. Where was Tim?

  184. Hamous Avatar

    I wonder if we are gonna get a Monday thread under which to post this week?

  185. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    I wonder if we are gonna get a Monday thread under which to post this week?

  186. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    I wonder what happened to Mohomar’s Amazon body guard. Did they fight to the death or defect in mass and will be dancing at Rick’s?

  187. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    I wonder what happened to Mohomar’s Amazon body guard. Did they fight to the death or defect in mass and will be dancing at Rick’s?

  188. Hamous Avatar

    #104 GTOtracker: Perhaps they are “lobbying” for good treatment in the new Lybia?

  189. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #104 GTOtracker: Perhaps they are “lobbying” for good treatment in the new Lybia?

  190. Tedtam Avatar

    Open comments for Monday is now open

  191. Tedtam Avatar

    Open comments for Monday is now open

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