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  1. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Looks like one of those guy could use a haircut.

  2. El Gordo Avatar

    Looks like one of those guy could use a haircut.

  3. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #21 EG

    If word were to get out that women were in fact capable of making logical decisions and taking care of themselves

    El Gordo, are you on medication or other drugs today, or a victim of identity theft? This does not sound like you!

    My apologies for this post yesterday. In my haste, I failed to insert the word “some” between the words “that” and “women.” I can see how the post as written could be confusing to some and that an incorrect inference could be drawn. I might make an effort to be more careful in the future, but I doubt it.

  4. El Gordo Avatar

    #21 EG
    If word were to get out that women were in fact capable of making logical decisions and taking care of themselves
    El Gordo, are you on medication or other drugs today, or a victim of identity theft? This does not sound like you!
    My apologies for this post yesterday. In my haste, I failed to insert the word “some” between the words “that” and “women.” I can see how the post as written could be confusing to some and that an incorrect inference could be drawn. I might make an effort to be more careful in the future, but I doubt it.

  5. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    Too bad Perry didn’t have as much fun helping people with property taxes.

  6. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    Too bad Perry didn’t have as much fun helping people with property taxes.

  7. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Hey ya BigIron, good to see you around. Our champion of the property tax fight, Dan Patrick has dropped the subject as well. Must be the air inside the tent.

    Way to keep ’em guessin’ out there El Gordo. 😀

  8. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Hey ya BigIron, good to see you around. Our champion of the property tax fight, Dan Patrick has dropped the subject as well. Must be the air inside the tent.
    Way to keep ’em guessin’ out there El Gordo. 😀

  9. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    While the resemblance is remarkable, I’m pretty sure the guy on the left is not Low Rents.

  10. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    While the resemblance is remarkable, I’m pretty sure the guy on the left is not Low Rents.

  11. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    For all the violent, racist rallying the Tea Party has done, all that had to be uttered was treasonous to get their attention? Who knew.

  12. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    For all the violent, racist rallying the Tea Party has done, all that had to be uttered was treasonous to get their attention? Who knew.

  13. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    #5

    Low Rents hangs with the Rifleman?

  14. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #5
    Low Rents hangs with the Rifleman?

  15. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Man it’s gonna be hard to be agin this Perry guy if he keeps upsetting the Karl Rove and Krauthammer wing.

  16. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Man it’s gonna be hard to be agin this Perry guy if he keeps upsetting the Karl Rove and Krauthammer wing.

  17. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    #7, I doubt it. That must be his evil twin hanging with Pecos Perry.

  18. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    #7, I doubt it. That must be his evil twin hanging with Pecos Perry.

  19. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    I’d better not catch any of you good folks engaging in any illegal yard watering or car washing. Can you believe this? Any more controls that need to be implemented? Can we burn stuff since we can’t water our yards now? Maybe start driving on the wrong side of the road or run a few red lights? Gotta have some kind of activity to engage in that’s not illegal.

    I know – let’s go sell a bunch of guns across the border to some gangsters. Or print up a bunch of currency and throw it out on the street. That should be no problem.

  20. El Gordo Avatar

    I’d better not catch any of you good folks engaging in any illegal yard watering or car washing. Can you believe this? Any more controls that need to be implemented? Can we burn stuff since we can’t water our yards now? Maybe start driving on the wrong side of the road or run a few red lights? Gotta have some kind of activity to engage in that’s not illegal.
    I know – let’s go sell a bunch of guns across the border to some gangsters. Or print up a bunch of currency and throw it out on the street. That should be no problem.

  21. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    All designated watering days does is to remind everyone to water on their days, and to water longer.

  22. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    All designated watering days does is to remind everyone to water on their days, and to water longer.

  23. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Ha! Take that union thugs. Obama’s Destroying America Tour bus made in Canada. 😀

  24. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Ha! Take that union thugs. Obama’s Destroying America Tour bus made in Canada. 😀

  25. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Awright Ted Nugent, You gotta’ killum before you grillum.
    I was clicking through the vast wasteland that is cable TV last night and stumbled across Wuss Blister interviewing his master. I only watched a little of it before I grabbed the trash can so I could puke. The most disgusting spectacle that I’ve seen in a long time, Wuss pitching softballs with NO follow up to his Messiah and Obama blaming everyone but himself for the mess HE got us in. A pathetic little man interviewed by one of his adoring followers.
    ~Spits……
    Mornin’ Gang

  26. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Awright Ted Nugent, You gotta’ killum before you grillum.
    I was clicking through the vast wasteland that is cable TV last night and stumbled across Wuss Blister interviewing his master. I only watched a little of it before I grabbed the trash can so I could puke. The most disgusting spectacle that I’ve seen in a long time, Wuss pitching softballs with NO follow up to his Messiah and Obama blaming everyone but himself for the mess HE got us in. A pathetic little man interviewed by one of his adoring followers.
    ~Spits……
    Mornin’ Gang

  27. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Is that a target on Perry’s cap? And who is the dude in the camo? It’s hard to coin a caption when you don’t know who (all) the subjects are, so Ima gonna leave this one for Robert M.

  28. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Is that a target on Perry’s cap? And who is the dude in the camo? It’s hard to coin a caption when you don’t know who (all) the subjects are, so Ima gonna leave this one for Robert M.

  29. Katfish Avatar

    #15 mh42
    You don’t recognize Ted Nugent?

  30. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #15 mh42
    You don’t recognize Ted Nugent?

  31. Hamous Avatar

    caption: “Get this straight, Jimmy Dick, if you pull the same crapola in DC like the Big Texas Land Grab (TTC), or forced Guardasil, or continue to refuse to secure the border, I am gonna punch you so hard your grandkids are gonna bleed.”

  32. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    caption: “Get this straight, Jimmy Dick, if you pull the same crapola in DC like the Big Texas Land Grab (TTC), or forced Guardasil, or continue to refuse to secure the border, I am gonna punch you so hard your grandkids are gonna bleed.”

  33. Hamous Avatar

    The degree of psychological “projection” practiced by this administration is breath-taking.

    Campaigning in Iowa on Monday, the Texas governor said he would consider it “treasonous” if Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke “prints more money between now and the election” in November 2012 — a fresh sign of the political heat the central bank faces as it tries to right the stumbling U.S. economy.

    “If this guy prints more money between now and the election, I don’t know what y’all will do to him in Iowa, but we would treat him pretty ugly down in Texas,” Perry said to laughter from supporters in Iowa.

    “Printing more money to play politics at this particular time in American history is almost treacherous, treasonous in my opinion,” he said.
    /snip
    “I certainly think threatening the Fed chairman is not a good idea,” White House spokesman Jay Carney said.

    I don’t see the physical threat in the above quote. I think it is reasonably clear that this is a rhetorical point, and not a physical threat. I certainly does not rise to the level of “we’re gonna kill Romney” now does it?

  34. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    The degree of psychological “projection” practiced by this administration is breath-taking.

    Campaigning in Iowa on Monday, the Texas governor said he would consider it “treasonous” if Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke “prints more money between now and the election” in November 2012 — a fresh sign of the political heat the central bank faces as it tries to right the stumbling U.S. economy.
    “If this guy prints more money between now and the election, I don’t know what y’all will do to him in Iowa, but we would treat him pretty ugly down in Texas,” Perry said to laughter from supporters in Iowa.
    “Printing more money to play politics at this particular time in American history is almost treacherous, treasonous in my opinion,” he said.
    /snip
    “I certainly think threatening the Fed chairman is not a good idea,” White House spokesman Jay Carney said.

    I don’t see the physical threat in the above quote. I think it is reasonably clear that this is a rhetorical point, and not a physical threat. I certainly does not rise to the level of “we’re gonna kill Romney” now does it?

  35. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #16 – I’ll bite. Not only do I not recognize Ted Nugget, I never heard of him. Does he play for the Cowboys or something?

  36. El Gordo Avatar

    #16 – I’ll bite. Not only do I not recognize Ted Nugget, I never heard of him. Does he play for the Cowboys or something?

  37. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    G’Morning all

    #10 El Gordo

    I know – let’s go sell a bunch of guns across the border to some gangsters.

    Gunrunner/Fast and Furious just keeps on getting worse.

    Firearms illegally trafficked under the ATF’s Fast and Furious program turned up at the scenes of at least 11 “violent crimes” in this country in addition to being involved in the death of a U.S. Border Patrol agent in southern Arizona last year, the Justice Department has acknowledged to Congress.

    Although Justice did not provide any details about those crime scenes, it has been learned that the additional violent crimes occurred in cities such as Phoenix, where Operation Fast and Furious was managed, and as far away as El Paso, Texas, where a total of 42 Fast and Furious weapons were seized in two separate crimes.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-naw-atf-guns-crimes-20110816,0,2290351.story?track=rss

  38. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    G’Morning all
    #10 El Gordo

    I know – let’s go sell a bunch of guns across the border to some gangsters.

    Gunrunner/Fast and Furious just keeps on getting worse.

    Firearms illegally trafficked under the ATF’s Fast and Furious program turned up at the scenes of at least 11 “violent crimes” in this country in addition to being involved in the death of a U.S. Border Patrol agent in southern Arizona last year, the Justice Department has acknowledged to Congress.
    Although Justice did not provide any details about those crime scenes, it has been learned that the additional violent crimes occurred in cities such as Phoenix, where Operation Fast and Furious was managed, and as far away as El Paso, Texas, where a total of 42 Fast and Furious weapons were seized in two separate crimes.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-naw-atf-guns-crimes-20110816,0,2290351.story?track=rss

  39. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    If I were Rick Perry right now, I would come out of the chute ranting about how Obama has tried his best to slow Texas down, be it NASA, moving the Humvee plant out of Sealy, crushing the gulf drilling business, using the EPA to usurp Texas air quality standards and prevent the opening of a refinery in Corpus Christi and threatening to do more on the ship channel, using endangered species act to try to shut down the oil fields of west Texas, doing squat to stem the flow of illegal immigrants who suck our social services dry, and on and on – only to have the Texas economy outshine the rest of the country due to low taxes, right to work laws, and a legislature that only meets every other year and tries to stay out of the way the rest of the time.

    What else would anyone need to know. Now don’t get me wrong – I’m not a real gung ho Perry man, but I’d try to get the devil elected to get rid of the Messiah right now.

  40. El Gordo Avatar

    If I were Rick Perry right now, I would come out of the chute ranting about how Obama has tried his best to slow Texas down, be it NASA, moving the Humvee plant out of Sealy, crushing the gulf drilling business, using the EPA to usurp Texas air quality standards and prevent the opening of a refinery in Corpus Christi and threatening to do more on the ship channel, using endangered species act to try to shut down the oil fields of west Texas, doing squat to stem the flow of illegal immigrants who suck our social services dry, and on and on – only to have the Texas economy outshine the rest of the country due to low taxes, right to work laws, and a legislature that only meets every other year and tries to stay out of the way the rest of the time.
    What else would anyone need to know. Now don’t get me wrong – I’m not a real gung ho Perry man, but I’d try to get the devil elected to get rid of the Messiah right now.

  41. Tedtam Avatar

    I posted this pretty late last night, but if you want to talk about scary, here’s the latest on the brazen illegal activity of unions.

    I’ve been unable to watch the news lately, due my nose sharpening efforts on an old grindstone that I have in my office. Was this anywhere on the news? Did TBO say the union guy or the business owner “acted stupidly”?

  42. Tedtam Avatar

    I posted this pretty late last night, but if you want to talk about scary, here’s the latest on the brazen illegal activity of unions.
    I’ve been unable to watch the news lately, due my nose sharpening efforts on an old grindstone that I have in my office. Was this anywhere on the news? Did TBO say the union guy or the business owner “acted stupidly”?

  43. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #20 – OTL – The reason I brought up the Fast and Furious eposide is that proves once again what happens when you mind your masters in government – the nastier the deal, the better the opportunity for promotion:
    http://hotair.com/archives/2011/08/16/atf-promotes-three-fast-furious-supervisors/

  44. El Gordo Avatar

    #20 – OTL – The reason I brought up the Fast and Furious eposide is that proves once again what happens when you mind your masters in government – the nastier the deal, the better the opportunity for promotion:
    http://hotair.com/archives/2011/08/16/atf-promotes-three-fast-furious-supervisors/

  45. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    MHarper and El Gordo

    Ted Nugent made multi millions in the rock music business. He now lives on a ranch outside Dallas, is an avid and outspoken 2nd amendment supporter and hunter.

  46. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    MHarper and El Gordo
    Ted Nugent made multi millions in the rock music business. He now lives on a ranch outside Dallas, is an avid and outspoken 2nd amendment supporter and hunter.

  47. Hamous Avatar

    #19 El Fat Man: Ted Nugent is a long time hard core rocker. His signature song is Cat Scratch Fever. He is a staunch conservative, vocal 2nd amendment advocate, an avid gun and bow-hunter and authored a cook book “Kill it and Grill it”. He has never been one to pull punches when confronted with the absurdity of the Ds and he eschews drug use.

  48. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #19 El Fat Man: Ted Nugent is a long time hard core rocker. His signature song is Cat Scratch Fever. He is a staunch conservative, vocal 2nd amendment advocate, an avid gun and bow-hunter and authored a cook book “Kill it and Grill it”. He has never been one to pull punches when confronted with the absurdity of the Ds and he eschews drug use.

  49. Hamous Avatar

    More on “the Nuge”, he used to live in Michigan and was known as the Motor City Maniac. He has been in the music biz since the early 70’s.

  50. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    More on “the Nuge”, he used to live in Michigan and was known as the Motor City Maniac. He has been in the music biz since the early 70’s.

  51. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #23 El Gordo

    I saw that. Also Judicial Watch just got an appeal approved that Holder has to give Judicial Watch letters and emails on the Black Panther voter intimidation case that Holder shut down. He definitely needs to be booted out.

  52. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #23 El Gordo
    I saw that. Also Judicial Watch just got an appeal approved that Holder has to give Judicial Watch letters and emails on the Black Panther voter intimidation case that Holder shut down. He definitely needs to be booted out.

  53. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Mexico reported that the number of people leaving Mexico for the U.S. is down to practically zero. There are no jobs for them.

    Now OBH and Big Sis will tout how they fixed the illegal immigration problem without building a fence.

  54. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Mexico reported that the number of people leaving Mexico for the U.S. is down to practically zero. There are no jobs for them.
    Now OBH and Big Sis will tout how they fixed the illegal immigration problem without building a fence.

  55. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    I saw where Newt demanded that every government employee take a loyalty oath.

    It’s an idea he got from his third wife.

  56. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    I saw where Newt demanded that every government employee take a loyalty oath.

    It’s an idea he got from his third wife.

  57. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    His signature song is Cat Scratch Fever.

    See, I would have picked Stranglehold.

    and was known as the Motor City Maniac.

    Motor City Madman.

  58. Hamous Avatar

    His signature song is Cat Scratch Fever.

    See, I would have picked Stranglehold.

    and was known as the Motor City Maniac.

    Motor City Madman.

  59. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    You don’t recognize Ted Nugent?

    Not only don’t recognise, don’t know who he is — although the name sounds familiar…

  60. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    You don’t recognize Ted Nugent?

    Not only don’t recognise, don’t know who he is — although the name sounds familiar…

  61. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #30 TT

    Sharpton is a killer for my acerbic jabs. You just can’t add anything to his quotes to improve them.

  62. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #30 TT
    Sharpton is a killer for my acerbic jabs. You just can’t add anything to his quotes to improve them.

  63. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Gotta go tend to things. I’ll leave you with this one:

    A morose man was sitting at the bar staring at his drink when a biker steps up, grabs his drink and gulps it down in one swig.

    “Well, whatcha’ gonna do about it?”

    “This is the worst day of my life,” he replies. “I am a complete failure. I was late to a meeting and my boss fired me. When I went to the parking lot, my car had been stolen and I don’t have any insurance. I left my wallet in the cab I took home and found my wife with another man.

    “So I came to this bar to work up courage to put an end to it all. I buy a drink, and I drop a poison capsule in and sit here watching it dissolve and then you show up and drink the whole thing.

    But enough about me, how is your day going?”

  64. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Gotta go tend to things. I’ll leave you with this one:
    A morose man was sitting at the bar staring at his drink when a biker steps up, grabs his drink and gulps it down in one swig.
    “Well, whatcha’ gonna do about it?”
    “This is the worst day of my life,” he replies. “I am a complete failure. I was late to a meeting and my boss fired me. When I went to the parking lot, my car had been stolen and I don’t have any insurance. I left my wallet in the cab I took home and found my wife with another man.
    “So I came to this bar to work up courage to put an end to it all. I buy a drink, and I drop a poison capsule in and sit here watching it dissolve and then you show up and drink the whole thing.
    But enough about me, how is your day going?”

  65. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #30 TT
    MSNBC can dress Sharpton up in a fine suit and tie, but he still sounds like an uneducated buffoon.

    (I guess Al Sharpton is a black cloud hanging over the nation…)

  66. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #30 TT
    MSNBC can dress Sharpton up in a fine suit and tie, but he still sounds like an uneducated buffoon.
    (I guess Al Sharpton is a black cloud hanging over the nation…)

  67. Tedtam Avatar

    I took a closer look at my garden this morning. Most mornings I turn the sprinkler on from the house and turn it off later, refusing to walk through the growing heat. It seems my garden likes the sprinkler better than my hand held sprayer, and is doing much better now. My pumpkin and yellow squash are doing great and taking over. I have some self-seeded basil popping up, as well as some self-seeded arugula. My pak choi is doing much better in the pot than their mother plant did in the bed. My chard is still hanging on, and my kale is starting to sprout new leaves from the main stalk – surprise! (I actually used some chard, kale, and pak choi in my stir fry last night.) My hot pepper plant is loving life and producing.

    Unfortunately, my fourth cantaloupe vine of the summer has fallen to the squirrels. That bed is just not doing well. There’s a big red stray dog that appears to have taken a liking to my other veggie bed, and has dug himself a place to sleep. Fortunately he didn’t kill my bell pepper or parsley doing so.

    I think it’s time I start putting those cayenne peppers to use. I have a small cache of them now. Time to soak ’em, blend ’em, and spray ’em all over the garden. Until my hubby finds the BB gun he “borrowed” from the house.

  68. Tedtam Avatar

    I took a closer look at my garden this morning. Most mornings I turn the sprinkler on from the house and turn it off later, refusing to walk through the growing heat. It seems my garden likes the sprinkler better than my hand held sprayer, and is doing much better now. My pumpkin and yellow squash are doing great and taking over. I have some self-seeded basil popping up, as well as some self-seeded arugula. My pak choi is doing much better in the pot than their mother plant did in the bed. My chard is still hanging on, and my kale is starting to sprout new leaves from the main stalk – surprise! (I actually used some chard, kale, and pak choi in my stir fry last night.) My hot pepper plant is loving life and producing.
    Unfortunately, my fourth cantaloupe vine of the summer has fallen to the squirrels. That bed is just not doing well. There’s a big red stray dog that appears to have taken a liking to my other veggie bed, and has dug himself a place to sleep. Fortunately he didn’t kill my bell pepper or parsley doing so.
    I think it’s time I start putting those cayenne peppers to use. I have a small cache of them now. Time to soak ’em, blend ’em, and spray ’em all over the garden. Until my hubby finds the BB gun he “borrowed” from the house.

  69. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    You have to laugh along with Drudge… well you don’t have to, but I do. Big picture of Obambie eating an ice cone, not to far down Putin being manly again fishing. The Ruskies must be releasing these pictures to make Obambie look like the wimp he is.

    Oh, and Obambie’s bus was built in Canada, probably by grilled cheese eating non union canuks.
    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/canucklehead_obama_bus_ted_gyztvw89k5MyKNS4B7Qp7O

  70. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    You have to laugh along with Drudge… well you don’t have to, but I do. Big picture of Obambie eating an ice cone, not to far down Putin being manly again fishing. The Ruskies must be releasing these pictures to make Obambie look like the wimp he is.
    Oh, and Obambie’s bus was built in Canada, probably by grilled cheese eating non union canuks.
    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/canucklehead_obama_bus_ted_gyztvw89k5MyKNS4B7Qp7O

  71. Hamous Avatar

    Keep up with the body count during ramadamadingdongdam here.

  72. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Keep up with the body count during ramadamadingdongdam here.

  73. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    All water utilities are required to have a Drought Contingency Plan.
    Each plan is customized for the individual water system.
    There are various Triggers for each Stage of the plan. Most plans have a Stage 1 Response involving VOLUNTARY restrictions on water use with a goal of reducing demand by 10-20%. Stage 2 Response usually involves making the restrictions mandatory.

    By the second week of July, my water system was at 75% of capacity. My six wells can only produce so much water in a 24 hour period.

    Some may be annoyed by the restrictions, but they are really going to be annoyed when they turn on the tap and nothing comes out.

  74. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    All water utilities are required to have a Drought Contingency Plan.
    Each plan is customized for the individual water system.
    There are various Triggers for each Stage of the plan. Most plans have a Stage 1 Response involving VOLUNTARY restrictions on water use with a goal of reducing demand by 10-20%. Stage 2 Response usually involves making the restrictions mandatory.
    By the second week of July, my water system was at 75% of capacity. My six wells can only produce so much water in a 24 hour period.
    Some may be annoyed by the restrictions, but they are really going to be annoyed when they turn on the tap and nothing comes out.

  75. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    not cursing but ROUGH language and attitude (we LOVE IT!)

    MotorCityMadman on the 2nd Amendment

  76. Katfish Avatar

    not cursing but ROUGH language and attitude (we LOVE IT!)
    MotorCityMadman on the 2nd Amendment

  77. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    The NUGE for PREZ dangit!!!!

  78. Katfish Avatar

    The NUGE for PREZ dangit!!!!

  79. Hamous Avatar

    #40 Katfish: Quote of the century “I don’t like repeat offenders, I like dead offenders”
    Spoken like a true patriot.

  80. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #40 Katfish: Quote of the century “I don’t like repeat offenders, I like dead offenders”
    Spoken like a true patriot.

  81. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I’m just saying that water use restrictions don’t have a damn thing to do with Big Brother or government over regulation.
    It’s a simple matter of supply and demand.
    And further, water utilities have no control over water main leaks. Piping, valves and fittings get old and they break. Clay soils are very active, depending on moisture content extremes, aggravating the leak problems. I have been averaging more than thirty leaks a month this summer. I have maybe 500 miles of pipe in the ground. Houston has thousands of miles pipe in the ground and reportedly is averaging 600 leaks a day. They have 40 crews working around the clock doing repairs.

  82. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I’m just saying that water use restrictions don’t have a damn thing to do with Big Brother or government over regulation.
    It’s a simple matter of supply and demand.
    And further, water utilities have no control over water main leaks. Piping, valves and fittings get old and they break. Clay soils are very active, depending on moisture content extremes, aggravating the leak problems. I have been averaging more than thirty leaks a month this summer. I have maybe 500 miles of pipe in the ground. Houston has thousands of miles pipe in the ground and reportedly is averaging 600 leaks a day. They have 40 crews working around the clock doing repairs.

  83. Tedtam Avatar

    #43 Shannon

    Houston has thousands of miles pipe in the ground and reportedly is averaging 600 leaks a day. They have 40 crews working around the clock doing repairs.

    What Hubby and I haven’t figured out is why, in extreme situations as this, why the city doesn’t call on some private contractors to make some of these repairs. We do them all the time, and we certainly have the equipment and personnel to get to the mains. Joe Blow’s Household Plumbing can’t do it, but there are over 40 names on the city’s approved list to work on the water mains that they could call on.

    They’d probably get more work done, for one thing. Our guys don’t sit around and our crews don’t have three supervisors on one job site.

  84. Tedtam Avatar

    #43 Shannon

    Houston has thousands of miles pipe in the ground and reportedly is averaging 600 leaks a day. They have 40 crews working around the clock doing repairs.

    What Hubby and I haven’t figured out is why, in extreme situations as this, why the city doesn’t call on some private contractors to make some of these repairs. We do them all the time, and we certainly have the equipment and personnel to get to the mains. Joe Blow’s Household Plumbing can’t do it, but there are over 40 names on the city’s approved list to work on the water mains that they could call on.
    They’d probably get more work done, for one thing. Our guys don’t sit around and our crews don’t have three supervisors on one job site.

  85. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    But Shannon, how can that be. We have the Messiah in the White House, and these things are not supposed to happen any more.

  86. El Gordo Avatar

    But Shannon, how can that be. We have the Messiah in the White House, and these things are not supposed to happen any more.

  87. Tedtam Avatar

    Oh, and Hubby was talking to me just last night about a leak at fire hydrant down the street. The city sent a guy to place a little blue flag to mark the leak, but he didn’t take that extra step to turn the valve to cut the water flow to the hydrant and stop the leak. No telling how many gallons of water have been lost because he either didn’t think or didn’t think he had the authority to take that one extra minute to find and turn the valve.

    There are some really good people working for the city. Most of the drones, however, keep their brains in their cell phones, only acting when told to.

  88. Tedtam Avatar

    Oh, and Hubby was talking to me just last night about a leak at fire hydrant down the street. The city sent a guy to place a little blue flag to mark the leak, but he didn’t take that extra step to turn the valve to cut the water flow to the hydrant and stop the leak. No telling how many gallons of water have been lost because he either didn’t think or didn’t think he had the authority to take that one extra minute to find and turn the valve.
    There are some really good people working for the city. Most of the drones, however, keep their brains in their cell phones, only acting when told to.

  89. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    The next step would be what Big Jolly blogged about down there in Speedtrap. Not enough water in the system to fight fires. All that equipment running non-stop in this heat must be causing problems as well.

  90. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    The next step would be what Big Jolly blogged about down there in Speedtrap. Not enough water in the system to fight fires. All that equipment running non-stop in this heat must be causing problems as well.

  91. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    46 TT
    It’s possible that he turned off the hydrant, but the leak is on the other side of that valve.
    But you are probably correct.
    The City probably pays that guy 60’grand a year to ride around, confirm leaks, and mark it for a utility locate request. And some other guy gets paid to ride around with a valve wrench.

  92. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    46 TT
    It’s possible that he turned off the hydrant, but the leak is on the other side of that valve.
    But you are probably correct.
    The City probably pays that guy 60’grand a year to ride around, confirm leaks, and mark it for a utility locate request. And some other guy gets paid to ride around with a valve wrench.

  93. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    47 gto
    I missed that one and not finding it.
    Got a link?
    Tnks

  94. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    47 gto
    I missed that one and not finding it.
    Got a link?
    Tnks

  95. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    I was just over at American Digest,
    http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/driveby/a_tale_of_two_busses.php

    and he raises an interesting point that greyhound one doesn’t have an American flag anywhere on it.

  96. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    I was just over at American Digest,
    http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/driveby/a_tale_of_two_busses.php
    and he raises an interesting point that greyhound one doesn’t have an American flag anywhere on it.

  97. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    At his speaking engagements, Obama stressed the need to extend payroll tax cuts and to rebuild the nation’s roads, bridges and other union-made infrastructure kinds of stuff. Also some free-trade agreements. This was a repetition of what he had said on the first day of his Grand Ground Tour.

    On his 938th day in office President Obama also said he would soon have a completed jobs plan. Maybe early fall, something like that. And he complained, “We could do even more if Congress is willing to get in the game.”

    Tomorrow with all this heavy work in his rear-view mirror, the president is scheduled to join his family on Martha’s Vineyard for a nine-day vacation.

    I used to think this guy was smart. He’s not smart at all. Our Boy Wonder has been told all his life how special he is. It’s no wonder he actually believes it.

    I heard him berating congress for not passing free trade agreements with Korea, Columbia, and Brazil. The idiot hasn’t even submitted them to Congress for ratification yet.

  98. Hamous Avatar

    At his speaking engagements, Obama stressed the need to extend payroll tax cuts and to rebuild the nation’s roads, bridges and other union-made infrastructure kinds of stuff. Also some free-trade agreements. This was a repetition of what he had said on the first day of his Grand Ground Tour.
    On his 938th day in office President Obama also said he would soon have a completed jobs plan. Maybe early fall, something like that. And he complained, “We could do even more if Congress is willing to get in the game.”
    Tomorrow with all this heavy work in his rear-view mirror, the president is scheduled to join his family on Martha’s Vineyard for a nine-day vacation.

    I used to think this guy was smart. He’s not smart at all. Our Boy Wonder has been told all his life how special he is. It’s no wonder he actually believes it.
    I heard him berating congress for not passing free trade agreements with Korea, Columbia, and Brazil. The idiot hasn’t even submitted them to Congress for ratification yet.

  99. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    But Shannon, how can that be. We have the Messiah in the White House, and these things are not supposed to happen any more.

    He walks on water. He can’t make water.

  100. Hamous Avatar

    But Shannon, how can that be. We have the Messiah in the White House, and these things are not supposed to happen any more.

    He walks on water. He can’t make water.

  101. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    The open comments photo looks like some kind of Brokeback Mountain thing to me.

  102. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    The open comments photo looks like some kind of Brokeback Mountain thing to me.

  103. Tedtam Avatar

    #53 Shannon

    The open comments photo looks like some kind of Brokeback Mountain thing to me.

    I double-dog dare you to say that to Nugent’s face.

  104. Tedtam Avatar

    #53 Shannon

    The open comments photo looks like some kind of Brokeback Mountain thing to me.

    I double-dog dare you to say that to Nugent’s face.

  105. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #52 – Mr. Ham – Maybe this is what he was really talking about when he promised to make the oceans begin to recede.

  106. El Gordo Avatar

    #52 – Mr. Ham – Maybe this is what he was really talking about when he promised to make the oceans begin to recede.

  107. Katfish Avatar

    He walks on water. He can’t make water.

    I bet he would if the Iranians started to get really frisky.

  108. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    He walks on water. He can’t make water.

    I bet he would if the Iranians started to get really frisky.

  109. Tedtam Avatar

    #56 WB

    He walks on water. He can’t make water.

    I bet he would if the Iranians started to get really frisky.

    😆

  110. Tedtam Avatar

    #56 WB

    He walks on water. He can’t make water.

    I bet he would if the Iranians started to get really frisky.

    😆

  111. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    He walks on water.

    Just as I thought, the idiot can’t swim. 🙂

  112. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    He walks on water.

    Just as I thought, the idiot can’t swim. 🙂

  113. Tedtam Avatar

    #58 Tex

    Just as I thought, the idiot can’t swim.

    Especially with the sharks.

  114. Tedtam Avatar

    #58 Tex

    Just as I thought, the idiot can’t swim.

    Especially with the sharks.

  115. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Oh, and Obambie’s bus was built in Canada, probably by grilled cheese eating non union canuks.
    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/canucklehead_obama_bus_ted_gyztvw89k5MyKNS4B7Qp7O

    Answers a question I had this morning:

    The bus was ordered by the Secret Service in July 2010 and delivered two months ago.

    That means they began planning this tour sometime in 2009.

    He knew then that he’d have to do something like this to get re-elected.

  116. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Oh, and Obambie’s bus was built in Canada, probably by grilled cheese eating non union canuks.
    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/canucklehead_obama_bus_ted_gyztvw89k5MyKNS4B7Qp7O

    Answers a question I had this morning:

    The bus was ordered by the Secret Service in July 2010 and delivered two months ago.

    That means they began planning this tour sometime in 2009.
    He knew then that he’d have to do something like this to get re-elected.

  117. Hamous Avatar

    This is enough to make you want to pull your hair out.

    A U.S. supercomputer laboratory engaged in classified military research concluded a recent deal involving Chinese-made components that is raising concerns in Congress about potential electronic espionage.

    The concerns are based on a contract reached this summer between a computer-technology firm and the National Center for Computational Engineering at the University of Tennessee, whose supercomputers simulate flight tests for next-generation U.S. military aircraft and spacecraft, and simulate submarine warfare for the Navy.

    The storage system for the contract calls for using software from U.S. cybersecurity firm Symantec installed over devices made by Huawei Technologies, a Chinese telecommunications giant that U.S. officials have said has close ties to China’s military. Huawei and Symantec formed a joint venture in 2008, with Huawei owning 51 percent of the shares of the enterprise.

    Security, schmecurity we don’t have anything to fear. . . . . . . Spoken like a true beaurocrat.

  118. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    This is enough to make you want to pull your hair out.

    A U.S. supercomputer laboratory engaged in classified military research concluded a recent deal involving Chinese-made components that is raising concerns in Congress about potential electronic espionage.
    The concerns are based on a contract reached this summer between a computer-technology firm and the National Center for Computational Engineering at the University of Tennessee, whose supercomputers simulate flight tests for next-generation U.S. military aircraft and spacecraft, and simulate submarine warfare for the Navy.
    The storage system for the contract calls for using software from U.S. cybersecurity firm Symantec installed over devices made by Huawei Technologies, a Chinese telecommunications giant that U.S. officials have said has close ties to China’s military. Huawei and Symantec formed a joint venture in 2008, with Huawei owning 51 percent of the shares of the enterprise.

    Security, schmecurity we don’t have anything to fear. . . . . . . Spoken like a true beaurocrat.

  119. Hamous Avatar

    #61 Sarge: I think the order had to be for three buses and not just one, so when they quote the price for one the contract was for 3 and therefore one can reasonable triple the price. . . . .kind of like what he did with Bush’s worst deficit.

  120. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #61 Sarge: I think the order had to be for three buses and not just one, so when they quote the price for one the contract was for 3 and therefore one can reasonable triple the price. . . . .kind of like what he did with Bush’s worst deficit.

  121. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    #61 Sarge: I think the order had to be for three buses and not just one, so when they quote the price for one the contract was for 3 and therefore one can reasonable triple the price. . . . .kind of like what he did with Bush’s worst deficit.

    The cost is almost beside the point. They are touting this tour as being “Trumanesque”, mimicking Truman’s whistle stop tour in his run for re-election against impossible odds. Purchase of the bus was done to achieve exactly that image.

    Design specifications would have had to be written and reviewed, then plans and proposals by vendors would have to be written and submitted and then reviewed (and probably amended and reviewed again) before the order was placed. He took office in January of 2009. The bus was ordered mid 2010. That means that sometime around the end of 2009, they knew he wasn’t going to skate back into the White House on a wave of stupendous recovery and a strong economy, and would need something like this.

  122. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    #61 Sarge: I think the order had to be for three buses and not just one, so when they quote the price for one the contract was for 3 and therefore one can reasonable triple the price. . . . .kind of like what he did with Bush’s worst deficit.

    The cost is almost beside the point. They are touting this tour as being “Trumanesque”, mimicking Truman’s whistle stop tour in his run for re-election against impossible odds. Purchase of the bus was done to achieve exactly that image.
    Design specifications would have had to be written and reviewed, then plans and proposals by vendors would have to be written and submitted and then reviewed (and probably amended and reviewed again) before the order was placed. He took office in January of 2009. The bus was ordered mid 2010. That means that sometime around the end of 2009, they knew he wasn’t going to skate back into the White House on a wave of stupendous recovery and a strong economy, and would need something like this.

  123. Hamous Avatar

    #64 Sarge: Let’s not even try to pretend that this is anything other than campaigning for re-election; why the wiss can’t we get the federal election goons to force these expenditures to come out of his campaign instead of SS budgets? That the presstitutes in the LSM aren’t claiming it as outright campaigning is further evidence that they have lost all credibility.
    O’erkle is taking his 4th vacation this year, is that correct? How many other people can afford the time, not to mention the money to take 4 vacations before the end of August? I can only imagine that there will be a couple more before the end of the year. Remember how Dan Blather would go on and on when W would spend a long weekend at his ranch? NO double standard at all, nothing to see here folks, just move along.
    /spits

  124. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #64 Sarge: Let’s not even try to pretend that this is anything other than campaigning for re-election; why the wiss can’t we get the federal election goons to force these expenditures to come out of his campaign instead of SS budgets? That the presstitutes in the LSM aren’t claiming it as outright campaigning is further evidence that they have lost all credibility.
    O’erkle is taking his 4th vacation this year, is that correct? How many other people can afford the time, not to mention the money to take 4 vacations before the end of August? I can only imagine that there will be a couple more before the end of the year. Remember how Dan Blather would go on and on when W would spend a long weekend at his ranch? NO double standard at all, nothing to see here folks, just move along.
    /spits

  125. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Good afternoon Hamsters. Ground mist and 75 at 6 and partly cloudy with 93 at 12:30 pm, with faint hopes for a passing shower.

    I see where the Canadians crafted Obama’s Darth Vadermobile Blunderbus. 🙂

  126. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Good afternoon Hamsters. Ground mist and 75 at 6 and partly cloudy with 93 at 12:30 pm, with faint hopes for a passing shower.
    I see where the Canadians crafted Obama’s Darth Vadermobile Blunderbus. 🙂

  127. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    #64 Sarge: Let’s not even try to pretend that this is anything other than campaigning for re-election

    That’s kinda the pernt.

    And its a re-election campaign that was planned almost two years ago.

    He knew then that he’d have to do something other than “normal” campaigning using Air Force 1.

    That’s the sick part.

  128. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    #64 Sarge: Let’s not even try to pretend that this is anything other than campaigning for re-election

    That’s kinda the pernt.
    And its a re-election campaign that was planned almost two years ago.
    He knew then that he’d have to do something other than “normal” campaigning using Air Force 1.
    That’s the sick part.

  129. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    I heard on the radio, could be just cover for Obambie, that the SS had been wanting buses like this since Clinton started doing it. They probably figured Bush didn’t need it as much as Obambie. Just saying.

  130. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    I heard on the radio, could be just cover for Obambie, that the SS had been wanting buses like this since Clinton started doing it. They probably figured Bush didn’t need it as much as Obambie. Just saying.

  131. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I heard on the radio, could be just cover for Obambie, that the SS had been wanting buses like this since Clinton started doing it. They probably figured Bush didn’t need it as much as Obambie. Just saying.

    Yah.

    I’m pretty sure that the SS was just dying to get the Prez on the roads of the country in a big black bus.

  132. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I heard on the radio, could be just cover for Obambie, that the SS had been wanting buses like this since Clinton started doing it. They probably figured Bush didn’t need it as much as Obambie. Just saying.

    Yah.
    I’m pretty sure that the SS was just dying to get the Prez on the roads of the country in a big black bus.

  133. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #37 Tex-Can

    The Ruskies must be releasing these pictures to make Obambie look like the wimp he is.

    Yeah, that’s been going on for awhile. Show Obammy riding a bike, and Putin wearing a loincloth and wrestling with a tiger.

  134. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #37 Tex-Can

    The Ruskies must be releasing these pictures to make Obambie look like the wimp he is.

    Yeah, that’s been going on for awhile. Show Obammy riding a bike, and Putin wearing a loincloth and wrestling with a tiger.

  135. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #59 TT
    Livestock — even cute little lambs — don’t make good house pets. Animal Planet had a story on a guy with a pet grown bull buffalo living inside his house.

  136. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #59 TT
    Livestock — even cute little lambs — don’t make good house pets. Animal Planet had a story on a guy with a pet grown bull buffalo living inside his house.

  137. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    He just can’t get a break.
    Black Caucus: Tired of making excuses for Obama Caution, there is a picture of an IDIOT there.

  138. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    He just can’t get a break.
    Black Caucus: Tired of making excuses for Obama Caution, there is a picture of an IDIOT there.

  139. Hamous Avatar

    #75 M42:

    Animal Planet had a story on a guy with a pet grown bull buffalo living inside his house.

    Can you imagine trying to housebreak a wissin buffalo?? What a nightmare when he decides it is time to deposit a meadow muffin on the carpet.

  140. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #75 M42:

    Animal Planet had a story on a guy with a pet grown bull buffalo living inside his house.

    Can you imagine trying to housebreak a wissin buffalo?? What a nightmare when he decides it is time to deposit a meadow muffin on the carpet.

  141. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #74 – ROFL…………………there hve been various “animal disappearance” stories for many years in the Denver area – the most common theory being for some sort of “ritual sacrifices”

    Denver is chock FULL of GREAT restaurants of most every culture on earth (my faves were the Greek joints for a great Gyro or some falafel OR the Vietnamese rice noodle bowls)

  142. Katfish Avatar

    #74 – ROFL…………………there hve been various “animal disappearance” stories for many years in the Denver area – the most common theory being for some sort of “ritual sacrifices”
    Denver is chock FULL of GREAT restaurants of most every culture on earth (my faves were the Greek joints for a great Gyro or some falafel OR the Vietnamese rice noodle bowls)

  143. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #75 & #77 – Prolly a tree hugger trying to capture extra methane for power generation?

    🙂

  144. Katfish Avatar

    #75 & #77 – Prolly a tree hugger trying to capture extra methane for power generation?
    🙂

  145. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    75
    Agreed. Bottle feeding a newborn calf in the kitchen in the dead of winter does present some problems. But she grew up to be a great cow.

  146. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    75
    Agreed. Bottle feeding a newborn calf in the kitchen in the dead of winter does present some problems. But she grew up to be a great cow.

  147. Hamous Avatar

    My friends cow had twins and she rejected one. That calf has been bottle fed for about 6 weeks now and she is really friendly. She is now Daisy the House Cow, but she lives in the barn. She will prolly not be integrated back into the herd, she may wind up being a milk cow. Right now she acts like a playful puppy.

  148. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    My friends cow had twins and she rejected one. That calf has been bottle fed for about 6 weeks now and she is really friendly. She is now Daisy the House Cow, but she lives in the barn. She will prolly not be integrated back into the herd, she may wind up being a milk cow. Right now she acts like a playful puppy.

  149. Hamous Avatar

    #80 Shannon, was she tasty?

  150. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #80 Shannon, was she tasty?

  151. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #59 – I’ll “see” your awwwwwwwwwwwwwww and raise you a shift key – AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

    Unusual Backyard Pals!!

  152. Katfish Avatar

    #59 – I’ll “see” your awwwwwwwwwwwwwww and raise you a shift key – AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
    Unusual Backyard Pals!!

  153. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Here are some still shots of the buffalo guy. He made a BuffaMobile by cutting the top
    off a car and removing all but the driver’s seat. There are some videos of the buffalo being driven around in the special car, but I couldn’t get any of them to play.

    http://www.care2.com/greenliving/pet-buffalo-rides-in-car.html

    (FWIW, I am surprised to hear any kind words about unconventional pets from most of this gang.)

  154. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Here are some still shots of the buffalo guy. He made a BuffaMobile by cutting the top
    off a car and removing all but the driver’s seat. There are some videos of the buffalo being driven around in the special car, but I couldn’t get any of them to play.
    http://www.care2.com/greenliving/pet-buffalo-rides-in-car.html
    (FWIW, I am surprised to hear any kind words about unconventional pets from most of this gang.)

  155. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #83 Kat
    The deer has learned to wag its tail from playing with the dog!

  156. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #83 Kat
    The deer has learned to wag its tail from playing with the dog!

  157. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    82
    Nah. She gave us many fine calves every 9.5 months. Very dependable. Like most orphans, she was tame in the early years and a complete butthead later in life. A good lead cow, though.

  158. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    82
    Nah. She gave us many fine calves every 9.5 months. Very dependable. Like most orphans, she was tame in the early years and a complete butthead later in life. A good lead cow, though.

  159. Katfish Avatar

    #74 dave
    From your link:

    Sequin, an owner of four cats, was devastated last week after finding part of her neighbor’s cat in her yard.

    Four cats = crazy.

    “We have raccoons, coyotes and foxes. Sometimes larger animals like lions and bears do come into town,” Jennifer Churchill with Colorado Parks and Wildlife said.

    She live in a zoo? All she’s missing is tigers and she’d have a full set with the lions & bears.

    I wonder if manbearpig has been spotted recently?

  160. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #74 dave
    From your link:

    Sequin, an owner of four cats, was devastated last week after finding part of her neighbor’s cat in her yard.

    Four cats = crazy.

    “We have raccoons, coyotes and foxes. Sometimes larger animals like lions and bears do come into town,” Jennifer Churchill with Colorado Parks and Wildlife said.

    She live in a zoo? All she’s missing is tigers and she’d have a full set with the lions & bears.
    I wonder if manbearpig has been spotted recently?

  161. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #86 –

    was tame in the early years and a complete butthead later in life

    I resemble dat remark!!!!

  162. Katfish Avatar

    #86 –

    was tame in the early years and a complete butthead later in life

    I resemble dat remark!!!!

  163. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    I need to be brought up to date on the NAFTA highway. What’s going on now? Is it blocked, or have access and control issues been dealt with?

  164. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    I need to be brought up to date on the NAFTA highway. What’s going on now? Is it blocked, or have access and control issues been dealt with?

  165. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I need to be brought up to date on the NAFTA highway. What’s going on now? Is it blocked, or have access and control issues been dealt with?

    NAFTA Highway technically still on.

    Trans Texas Corridor is supposed to be dead.

  166. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I need to be brought up to date on the NAFTA highway. What’s going on now? Is it blocked, or have access and control issues been dealt with?

    NAFTA Highway technically still on.
    Trans Texas Corridor is supposed to be dead.

  167. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    Trans Texas Corridor is supposed to be dead.

    Does that mean watch for treachery?

  168. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    Trans Texas Corridor is supposed to be dead.
    Does that mean watch for treachery?

  169. Robert M Avatar
    Robert M

    Just to show the liberals, of which there are probably very few that read this website, that I can write captions for anybody no matter what party affiliation, so here goes my “Top Ten” captions for the picture:

    1) I’ll bet if I said I have my “sights” set on the White House some anti-gun nut will misinterpret that.

    2) Is it always open season on Dummycrats or what?

    3) Don’t you know the two of us are driving the anti-gun nuts crazy?

    4) Do they give out any points for just “winging” them?

    5) Not to be like “Robin Hood”, we will be taking our guns to this fight.

    6) I wonder if that certain pansy has even held a gun before?

    7) We need to show those clowns in Washington D.C. what Texas politics is like.

    8) I didn’t know the President could choose which amendments he wishes to defend or not defend.

    9) Let’s shoot all the targets on the “left” and not shoot any on the “right”.

    10) Ted, you’ll never guess where I found the most “mo-fo”s.

    I hope the liberal readers out there appreciated what I did in writing these captions for Ted and Rick. It’s really hard going against an ABO candidate.

  170. Robert M Avatar
    Robert M

    Just to show the liberals, of which there are probably very few that read this website, that I can write captions for anybody no matter what party affiliation, so here goes my “Top Ten” captions for the picture:
    1) I’ll bet if I said I have my “sights” set on the White House some anti-gun nut will misinterpret that.
    2) Is it always open season on Dummycrats or what?
    3) Don’t you know the two of us are driving the anti-gun nuts crazy?
    4) Do they give out any points for just “winging” them?
    5) Not to be like “Robin Hood”, we will be taking our guns to this fight.
    6) I wonder if that certain pansy has even held a gun before?
    7) We need to show those clowns in Washington D.C. what Texas politics is like.
    8) I didn’t know the President could choose which amendments he wishes to defend or not defend.
    9) Let’s shoot all the targets on the “left” and not shoot any on the “right”.
    10) Ted, you’ll never guess where I found the most “mo-fo”s.
    I hope the liberal readers out there appreciated what I did in writing these captions for Ted and Rick. It’s really hard going against an ABO candidate.

  171. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    Shannon,
    Link to Big Jolly’s story about lack of water in Speedtrap.

  172. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    Shannon,
    Link to Big Jolly’s story about lack of water in Speedtrap.

  173. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    The comment below if from this news story about Ed Schultz apologizing about misleading video on Perry. Forgot how to do the linkie thing:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/17/ed-schultz-apologizes-rick-perry_n_929066.html

    Posted by Jim Nash: Rick Perry worked for the Al Gore campaign in Waco Texas back in 1988. We were both delegates to the TX Democratic Convention­. He kept on referring to the Dukakis supporters as “welfare babies” He referred to the Democratis in the Waco area as ” Hee Haw cotton choppers.”­, in private coversatio­ns that we had. He claimed that he could “hustle” his group into follow the leader. In short, he had no respect for his delegate constituan­ts. On another matter, as Governor, he refused to stop the execution of Scott Willingham­, even though DNA overwhelmi­ngly absolved Scott of the arson deaths of his children.

  174. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    The comment below if from this news story about Ed Schultz apologizing about misleading video on Perry. Forgot how to do the linkie thing:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/17/ed-schultz-apologizes-rick-perry_n_929066.html
    Posted by Jim Nash: Rick Perry worked for the Al Gore campaign in Waco Texas back in 1988. We were both delegates to the TX Democratic Convention­. He kept on referring to the Dukakis supporters as “welfare babies” He referred to the Democratis in the Waco area as ” Hee Haw cotton choppers.”­, in private coversatio­ns that we had. He claimed that he could “hustle” his group into follow the leader. In short, he had no respect for his delegate constituan­ts. On another matter, as Governor, he refused to stop the execution of Scott Willingham­, even though DNA overwhelmi­ngly absolved Scott of the arson deaths of his children.

  175. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I wonder if manbearpig has been spotted recently?

    He’s real! I’m cereal!

  176. Hamous Avatar

    I wonder if manbearpig has been spotted recently?

    He’s real! I’m cereal!

  177. Katfish Avatar

    #13 hamous
    You’re right.

  178. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #13 hamous
    You’re right.

  179. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    94
    Thanks. I’ll check it when I get home.
    I can’t seem to access any of Big Jolly sites from my iPhone.
    He’s prolly one of those haters of all things Apple. 🙂

  180. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    94
    Thanks. I’ll check it when I get home.
    I can’t seem to access any of Big Jolly sites from my iPhone.
    He’s prolly one of those haters of all things Apple. 🙂

  181. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    90 Sarge,

    We would have to borrow money from the drug cartels to build the NAFTA highway, but then to think of it…shouldn’t users pay for new highways?

    /snicker off

    Simple

  182. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    90 Sarge,
    We would have to borrow money from the drug cartels to build the NAFTA highway, but then to think of it…shouldn’t users pay for new highways?
    /snicker off
    Simple

  183. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    The joys of being broke

    Simple

  184. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    The joys of being broke
    Simple

  185. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    He referred to the Democratis in the Waco area as ” Hee Haw cotton choppers

    Heh.

  186. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    He referred to the Democratis in the Waco area as ” Hee Haw cotton choppers

    Heh.

  187. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Better’n being a cedar chopper, I reckon.

  188. Hamous Avatar

    Better’n being a cedar chopper, I reckon.

  189. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    He referred to the Democratis in the Waco area as ” Hee Haw cotton choppers

    Can’t see the problem.

    At least he didn’t call them goat ropers.

  190. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    He referred to the Democratis in the Waco area as ” Hee Haw cotton choppers

    Can’t see the problem.
    At least he didn’t call them goat ropers.

  191. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    <—-Prefers to be a mesquite chopper.

  192. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    <—-Prefers to be a mesquite chopper.

  193. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    Wasn’t there a campaign contribution connection between Perry and the people that made the HPV vaccine?

  194. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    Wasn’t there a campaign contribution connection between Perry and the people that made the HPV vaccine?

  195. Hamous Avatar

    #105 B45: That will prolly be one of the targets in the campaign against Jimmy Dick. It is a 2 edged sword however, if they open that can o worms O’erkle is gonna be in a heap of trouble; there is lots of quid pro quo on his side.

  196. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #105 B45: That will prolly be one of the targets in the campaign against Jimmy Dick. It is a 2 edged sword however, if they open that can o worms O’erkle is gonna be in a heap of trouble; there is lots of quid pro quo on his side.

  197. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    100 Simple Simon says:
    August 17, 2011 at 4:28 pm
    The joys of being broke

    And what about the joy of grabbing the ring on #100?

  198. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    100 Simple Simon says:
    August 17, 2011 at 4:28 pm
    The joys of being broke

    And what about the joy of grabbing the ring on #100?

  199. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    Bonecrusher, I’m not talking about Obama bin Biden. I was refering to the race within the party. So far I’m leaning to either Bachmann or Cain.

  200. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    Bonecrusher, I’m not talking about Obama bin Biden. I was refering to the race within the party. So far I’m leaning to either Bachmann or Cain.

  201. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    107…It was there. I could not resist, but for the life of me I could not think of any comment that would be up to the significance of the event; ergo I punted with a lame remark.

    Simple

    /head bowed in shame

  202. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    107…It was there. I could not resist, but for the life of me I could not think of any comment that would be up to the significance of the event; ergo I punted with a lame remark.
    Simple
    /head bowed in shame

  203. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    Darren, is she moving a transparent cover?

  204. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    Darren, is she moving a transparent cover?

  205. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    The race is over. All other candidates can just go home.

    KISS frontman Gene Simmons: Rick Perry will be our next president

  206. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    The race is over. All other candidates can just go home.
    KISS frontman Gene Simmons: Rick Perry will be our next president

  207. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Darren, is she moving a transparent cover?

    I don’t think so. The cover she’s moving is almost the same shade as the darker square she’s moving the cover to. I think it has to do with the squares surrounding the cover shes moving. It’s seems incredulous but also legitimate.

  208. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Darren, is she moving a transparent cover?

    I don’t think so. The cover she’s moving is almost the same shade as the darker square she’s moving the cover to. I think it has to do with the squares surrounding the cover shes moving. It’s seems incredulous but also legitimate.

  209. Hamous Avatar

    If that card is played early, in the primaries, it could spell the end for JD. If he survives that card in the primaries, it will resurface in the general. I would MUCH rather see Bachman and/or Cain as both of them are genuine conservatives and have real world biz experience.

  210. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    If that card is played early, in the primaries, it could spell the end for JD. If he survives that card in the primaries, it will resurface in the general. I would MUCH rather see Bachman and/or Cain as both of them are genuine conservatives and have real world biz experience.

  211. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    If one of the devoted and knowledgable Catholic s on this site could give me feedback on yesterday’s inquiry regarding the Catholic doctrine of salvation I’d really be apreciative. If not, that’s cool. But I do not want to misrepresent Catholic doctrine when I speak about it to others.

    https://www.hamous.org/?p=2663#comment-31168

  212. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    If one of the devoted and knowledgable Catholic s on this site could give me feedback on yesterday’s inquiry regarding the Catholic doctrine of salvation I’d really be apreciative. If not, that’s cool. But I do not want to misrepresent Catholic doctrine when I speak about it to others.
    https://www.hamous.org/?p=2663#comment-31168

  213. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    Bonecrusher, not only that, but dealing with Iran, if Cain says I’m going to target you, he actually has the skills to do the targeting himself!!

  214. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    Bonecrusher, not only that, but dealing with Iran, if Cain says I’m going to target you, he actually has the skills to do the targeting himself!!

  215. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    Darren, did you see my response yesterday to what the young priest said about the road to salvation?

  216. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    Darren, did you see my response yesterday to what the young priest said about the road to salvation?

  217. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    110
    That’s pretty annoying. 🙂

  218. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    110
    That’s pretty annoying. 🙂

  219. Katfish Avatar

    #115 Darren
    I intended to today but my laptop decided that today was the day to test out it’s brakes. Hopefully it’ll be more cooperative soon.

  220. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #115 Darren
    I intended to today but my laptop decided that today was the day to test out it’s brakes. Hopefully it’ll be more cooperative soon.

  221. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    Notice in the #110 video that the colors change as she drags it across. That is why think it’s a transparency. The shadow of the cylinder does cross the square as she moves it, and the color of the square shifts to what is under that square that is moving. Hence my belief it’s simply a transpareny, and will reflect whatever color it’s adjacent to.

  222. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    Notice in the #110 video that the colors change as she drags it across. That is why think it’s a transparency. The shadow of the cylinder does cross the square as she moves it, and the color of the square shifts to what is under that square that is moving. Hence my belief it’s simply a transpareny, and will reflect whatever color it’s adjacent to.

  223. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Big45;

    Darren, did you see my response yesterday to what the young priest said about the road to salvation?

    I did and thanks. It did, kinda sorta talk about what I was seeking. It did emphasize what your dad could **do** to get to heavan. And, yes, beying the Ten Commandments is an ecxellent wya to get there. But I want to be more specific. Catholics definitely believe in being saved by grace. I do too. But I would like to know what the Roman catholic Church doctrine is regarding the role of good works in salvation. It seems that Catholics believe in good works as a necessity and that a person after coming unto God through His mercy in Christ could lose that grace of salvation by not doing good works, namely by sinning and not repenting. I believe in this as well.

  224. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Big45;

    Darren, did you see my response yesterday to what the young priest said about the road to salvation?

    I did and thanks. It did, kinda sorta talk about what I was seeking. It did emphasize what your dad could **do** to get to heavan. And, yes, beying the Ten Commandments is an ecxellent wya to get there. But I want to be more specific. Catholics definitely believe in being saved by grace. I do too. But I would like to know what the Roman catholic Church doctrine is regarding the role of good works in salvation. It seems that Catholics believe in good works as a necessity and that a person after coming unto God through His mercy in Christ could lose that grace of salvation by not doing good works, namely by sinning and not repenting. I believe in this as well.

  225. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I intended to today but my laptop decided that today was the day to test out it’s brakes. Hopefully it’ll be more cooperative soon.

    Thanks, wagonburner. Maybe God didn’t want me to know it today. 😉

  226. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I intended to today but my laptop decided that today was the day to test out it’s brakes. Hopefully it’ll be more cooperative soon.

    Thanks, wagonburner. Maybe God didn’t want me to know it today. 😉

  227. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Shannon #118;

    Heh. 🙂

  228. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Shannon #118;
    Heh. 🙂

  229. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I’m sure everybody here has heard of the Obama bus being manufactured in Canada. And, of course, the immediate thought from my brain was, “yeah, way to go with that creation of American jobs, Obama”. But, I didn’t think of what Rush said. It give further depth to my retalatory thought.

    Rush: Obama Owns Two Car Companies, Goes to Canada to Buy Buses

  230. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I’m sure everybody here has heard of the Obama bus being manufactured in Canada. And, of course, the immediate thought from my brain was, “yeah, way to go with that creation of American jobs, Obama”. But, I didn’t think of what Rush said. It give further depth to my retalatory thought.
    Rush: Obama Owns Two Car Companies, Goes to Canada to Buy Buses

  231. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Well LQQkie here, I just got my “1854 Seated Liberty Half Dime(with arrows)” in the mail. She is a beauty, even if she’s only a EF 40. I’m not sure why, but I have become a big fan of half dimes, maybe because they are silver and really old? This coin was minted Xactly 100 years before I was born. 😉

  232. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Well LQQkie here, I just got my “1854 Seated Liberty Half Dime(with arrows)” in the mail. She is a beauty, even if she’s only a EF 40. I’m not sure why, but I have become a big fan of half dimes, maybe because they are silver and really old? This coin was minted Xactly 100 years before I was born. 😉

  233. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Oh, I might add that the Morgan Silver Dollar is my favorite. Most of mine are pre 1880.

  234. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Oh, I might add that the Morgan Silver Dollar is my favorite. Most of mine are pre 1880.

  235. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Darren – here’s a short and sweet Catholic answer: If you have faith in Jesus Christ you are called to live your life like Christ. That means works necessarily come with faith. Faith and works cannot be mutually exclusive.

  236. Hamous Avatar

    Darren – here’s a short and sweet Catholic answer: If you have faith in Jesus Christ you are called to live your life like Christ. That means works necessarily come with faith. Faith and works cannot be mutually exclusive.

  237. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Obama added that, “Nobody is more interested in seeing our agricultural sector successful than I am, partly because I come from a farm state.”

    Is he talking about Hawaii? 🙂

    http://nation.foxnews.com/president-obama/2011/08/17/obama-dismisses-farmers-concerns-about-regulations-dont-always-believe-what-you-hear

  238. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Obama added that, “Nobody is more interested in seeing our agricultural sector successful than I am, partly because I come from a farm state.”

    Is he talking about Hawaii? 🙂
    http://nation.foxnews.com/president-obama/2011/08/17/obama-dismisses-farmers-concerns-about-regulations-dont-always-believe-what-you-hear

  239. Tedtam Avatar

    Catholic Answers usually has really good answers, thorough but understandable to the layman. Here’s a link to their response to the question of salvation.
    Several salvation explanations
    Assurance of Salvation
    And I do love my Envoy Magazine

    I hope those help..

  240. Tedtam Avatar

    Catholic Answers usually has really good answers, thorough but understandable to the layman. Here’s a link to their response to the question of salvation.
    Several salvation explanations
    Assurance of Salvation
    And I do love my Envoy Magazine
    I hope those help..

  241. Tedtam Avatar

    #127 Hammy

    Or, as Rich Mullins so eloquently puts it, Faith Without Works is Like a Screen Door on a Submarine.

    Never seen it done with cups before, but it was pretty cool.

  242. Tedtam Avatar

    #127 Hammy
    Or, as Rich Mullins so eloquently puts it, Faith Without Works is Like a Screen Door on a Submarine.
    Never seen it done with cups before, but it was pretty cool.

  243. Tedtam Avatar

    When it comes to understanding salvation and baptism, I tell my students that baptism opens the doors to God’s grace, but it’s up to us to walk through the doors. Non-Catholics tend to look at baptism as a choice we humans make, whereas Catholics see baptism as a gift bestowed upon us. That’s why we have no problems with infant baptism. Not to mention that infant baptism was referenced in the Bible, as whole households converted.

    Was it Peter or Paul that said he “works out his faith in fear and trembling”? If faith in Jesus, accepting him as one’s personal savior, was all we needed to gain access to Heaven, then why would he “work out his salvation in fear and trembling”? It would have been more like “celebrating my salvation with joy and gladness”. That usually throws the confused Evangelical for a loop.

  244. Tedtam Avatar

    When it comes to understanding salvation and baptism, I tell my students that baptism opens the doors to God’s grace, but it’s up to us to walk through the doors. Non-Catholics tend to look at baptism as a choice we humans make, whereas Catholics see baptism as a gift bestowed upon us. That’s why we have no problems with infant baptism. Not to mention that infant baptism was referenced in the Bible, as whole households converted.
    Was it Peter or Paul that said he “works out his faith in fear and trembling”? If faith in Jesus, accepting him as one’s personal savior, was all we needed to gain access to Heaven, then why would he “work out his salvation in fear and trembling”? It would have been more like “celebrating my salvation with joy and gladness”. That usually throws the confused Evangelical for a loop.

  245. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Darren, I am with Tedtam–I am too darn tired lately to get into a big theological discussion. You’ve asked for a simple explanation of the Catholic position on works vis a vis Grace and justification. I contend there is no such thing. The subject does not lend itself to simple explanation.

    The closest thing to an abbreviated treatment is contained in the Joint Declaration on The Doctrine of Justification–a document released in 1999 after thirty five years of dialogue between the Catholics and Lutherans.

    The pertinent section is as follows.’Please note that
    #37 is a statement of where the parties agree
    #38 is a statement further clarifying the Catholic position
    #39’is a statement further clarifying the Lutheran position

    4.7 The Good Works of the Justified

    37.We confess together that good works – a Christian life lived in faith, hope and love – follow justification and are its fruits. When the justified live in Christ and act in the grace they receive, they bring forth, in biblical terms, good fruit. Since Christians struggle against sin their entire lives, this consequence of justification is also for them an obligation they must fulfill. Thus both Jesus and the apostolic Scriptures admonish Christians to bring forth the works of love.

    38.According to Catholic understanding, good works, made possible by grace and the working of the Holy Spirit, contribute to growth in grace, so that the righteousness that comes from God is preserved and communion with Christ is deepened. When Catholics affirm the “meritorious” character of good works, they wish to say that, according to the biblical witness, a reward in heaven is promised to these works. Their intention is to emphasize the responsibility of persons for their actions, not to contest the character of those works as gifts, or far less to deny that justification always remains the unmerited gift of grace.

    39.The concept of a preservation of grace and a growth in grace and faith is also held by Lutherans. They do emphasize that righteousness as acceptance by God and sharing in the righteousness of Christ is always complete. At the same time, they state that there can be growth in its effects in Christian living. When they view the good works of Christians as the fruits and signs of justification and not as one’s own “merits”, they nevertheless also understand eternal life in accord with the New Testament as unmerited “reward” in the sense of the fulfillment of God’s promise to the believer. [See Sources for section 4.7].

    The entire document can be found here:

    http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/documents/rc_pc_chrstuni_doc_31101999_cath-luth-joint-declaration_en.html

  246. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Darren, I am with Tedtam–I am too darn tired lately to get into a big theological discussion. You’ve asked for a simple explanation of the Catholic position on works vis a vis Grace and justification. I contend there is no such thing. The subject does not lend itself to simple explanation.
    The closest thing to an abbreviated treatment is contained in the Joint Declaration on The Doctrine of Justification–a document released in 1999 after thirty five years of dialogue between the Catholics and Lutherans.
    The pertinent section is as follows.’Please note that
    #37 is a statement of where the parties agree
    #38 is a statement further clarifying the Catholic position
    #39’is a statement further clarifying the Lutheran position

    4.7 The Good Works of the Justified
    37.We confess together that good works – a Christian life lived in faith, hope and love – follow justification and are its fruits. When the justified live in Christ and act in the grace they receive, they bring forth, in biblical terms, good fruit. Since Christians struggle against sin their entire lives, this consequence of justification is also for them an obligation they must fulfill. Thus both Jesus and the apostolic Scriptures admonish Christians to bring forth the works of love.
    38.According to Catholic understanding, good works, made possible by grace and the working of the Holy Spirit, contribute to growth in grace, so that the righteousness that comes from God is preserved and communion with Christ is deepened. When Catholics affirm the “meritorious” character of good works, they wish to say that, according to the biblical witness, a reward in heaven is promised to these works. Their intention is to emphasize the responsibility of persons for their actions, not to contest the character of those works as gifts, or far less to deny that justification always remains the unmerited gift of grace.
    39.The concept of a preservation of grace and a growth in grace and faith is also held by Lutherans. They do emphasize that righteousness as acceptance by God and sharing in the righteousness of Christ is always complete. At the same time, they state that there can be growth in its effects in Christian living. When they view the good works of Christians as the fruits and signs of justification and not as one’s own “merits”, they nevertheless also understand eternal life in accord with the New Testament as unmerited “reward” in the sense of the fulfillment of God’s promise to the believer. [See Sources for section 4.7].

    The entire document can be found here:
    http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/documents/rc_pc_chrstuni_doc_31101999_cath-luth-joint-declaration_en.html

  247. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    That means works necessarily come with faith. Faith and works cannot be mutually exclusive.

    That’s sound logic to me. If i may

    “18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.”

    (James 2)

    I’ve heard from an Evangelical that this scripture means that one shows **to man** his works to show his Christianity to man. But it is through faith alone that one is saved. I simply reply that my understanding from this scripture is that you have faith in Christ unto salvation but if you choose not to work based on your faith than your faith is dead. And dead faith is nothing to hope for.

    Thanks for your reply. I was seeking a short and clear answer.

  248. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    That means works necessarily come with faith. Faith and works cannot be mutually exclusive.

    That’s sound logic to me. If i may
    “18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.”
    (James 2)
    I’ve heard from an Evangelical that this scripture means that one shows **to man** his works to show his Christianity to man. But it is through faith alone that one is saved. I simply reply that my understanding from this scripture is that you have faith in Christ unto salvation but if you choose not to work based on your faith than your faith is dead. And dead faith is nothing to hope for.
    Thanks for your reply. I was seeking a short and clear answer.

  249. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Since y’all got all serious I shouldn’t mention that Canadian stock car driver Maryeve Dufault is making her NASCAR Nationwide Series debut this weekend. And I won’t mention Danica Patrick is also running. And I won’t mention how much I love racing.

  250. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Since y’all got all serious I shouldn’t mention that Canadian stock car driver Maryeve Dufault is making her NASCAR Nationwide Series debut this weekend. And I won’t mention Danica Patrick is also running. And I won’t mention how much I love racing.

  251. CbR Avatar
    CbR

    128 mharper42

    Is he talking about Hawaii?

    Not to worry, he’s only got 56 more to choose from.

  252. CbR Avatar
    CbR

    128 mharper42

    Is he talking about Hawaii?

    Not to worry, he’s only got 56 more to choose from.

  253. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    It will be interesting in a couple of months to see how many union members are left in Wisconson.

    http://biggovernment.com/bhealy/2011/08/17/after-failing-with-recalls-big-labor-spams-state-employees/#more-316184

  254. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    It will be interesting in a couple of months to see how many union members are left in Wisconson.
    http://biggovernment.com/bhealy/2011/08/17/after-failing-with-recalls-big-labor-spams-state-employees/#more-316184

  255. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Tedtam;

    From assurances of faith.

    “There are few more confusing topics than salvation. It goes beyond the standard question posed by Fundamentalists: “Have you been saved?” What the question also means is: “Don’t you wish you had the assurance of salvation?” Evangelicals and Fundamentalists think they do have such an absolute assurance.

    All they have to do is “accept Christ as their personal Savior,” and it’s done. They might well live exemplary lives thereafter, but living well is not crucial and definitely does not affect their salvation. ”

    Yup,that’s been my experience with Evangelicals/Pentacostals. Such a concept goes against my faith and it’s never settled well in me personally. It’s always made sense to me that one “should be good” to get to heaven. No doubt that we are saved by grace for none of us deserve God’s salvation nor his blessings I may add. But by His infinite love and mercy, He bestowals them both upon us. Many if not most of his temporal blessings, I find, are unconditional but salvation, I think, has certain conditions upon them.

    I’ve come across “Catholic Answers” before and it seems like a very reliable source to explain Catholic doctrine. I’m glad you sent me your own approval. And I had forgotten to mention “mortal sins” to the Evangelical blogger. I did have it in mind but forgot to add it in the conversation/debate. By it’s nature, it says “be good or else”.

    So, it does seem that I am accurate to run around the blogoshpere and say that Catholics believe that good works are necessary for salvation.

  256. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Tedtam;
    From assurances of faith.
    “There are few more confusing topics than salvation. It goes beyond the standard question posed by Fundamentalists: “Have you been saved?” What the question also means is: “Don’t you wish you had the assurance of salvation?” Evangelicals and Fundamentalists think they do have such an absolute assurance.
    All they have to do is “accept Christ as their personal Savior,” and it’s done. They might well live exemplary lives thereafter, but living well is not crucial and definitely does not affect their salvation. ”
    Yup,that’s been my experience with Evangelicals/Pentacostals. Such a concept goes against my faith and it’s never settled well in me personally. It’s always made sense to me that one “should be good” to get to heaven. No doubt that we are saved by grace for none of us deserve God’s salvation nor his blessings I may add. But by His infinite love and mercy, He bestowals them both upon us. Many if not most of his temporal blessings, I find, are unconditional but salvation, I think, has certain conditions upon them.
    I’ve come across “Catholic Answers” before and it seems like a very reliable source to explain Catholic doctrine. I’m glad you sent me your own approval. And I had forgotten to mention “mortal sins” to the Evangelical blogger. I did have it in mind but forgot to add it in the conversation/debate. By it’s nature, it says “be good or else”.
    So, it does seem that I am accurate to run around the blogoshpere and say that Catholics believe that good works are necessary for salvation.

  257. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Shannon;

    I actually began reading that 1999 (“Concordia” is it called?) you cited. It was mentioned to me several months ago by an Evangelical Lutheran and he said because of that treatise (if it’s called that) the Evangelical Lutherans were in communon with the Catholic Church. I don’t know how accurate that is though. and Anglican Catholic recently told me that wasn;t the case but I don’t entirely trust that response neither.

    According to Catholic understanding, good works, made possible by grace and the working of the Holy Spirit, contribute to growth in grace, so that the righteousness that comes from God is preserved and communion with Christ is deepened

    Amen to that.

    When Catholics affirm the “meritorious” character of good works, they wish to say that, according to the biblical witness, a reward in heaven is promised to these works. Their intention is to emphasize the responsibility of persons for their actions, not to contest the character of those works as gifts, or far less to deny that justification always remains the unmerited gift of grace.

    Thanks for that.

    I understand that you are too tireed for a deep theological discussion (which I wasn’t seeking for, just the simple explanations I received tonight) but you also have some armadillos to shoot. Just warn us if Mrs. Shannon will go out and do the shooting. That’s a sight we don’t need to see. 😉

    Take care.

  258. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Shannon;
    I actually began reading that 1999 (“Concordia” is it called?) you cited. It was mentioned to me several months ago by an Evangelical Lutheran and he said because of that treatise (if it’s called that) the Evangelical Lutherans were in communon with the Catholic Church. I don’t know how accurate that is though. and Anglican Catholic recently told me that wasn;t the case but I don’t entirely trust that response neither.

    According to Catholic understanding, good works, made possible by grace and the working of the Holy Spirit, contribute to growth in grace, so that the righteousness that comes from God is preserved and communion with Christ is deepened

    Amen to that.

    When Catholics affirm the “meritorious” character of good works, they wish to say that, according to the biblical witness, a reward in heaven is promised to these works. Their intention is to emphasize the responsibility of persons for their actions, not to contest the character of those works as gifts, or far less to deny that justification always remains the unmerited gift of grace.

    Thanks for that.
    I understand that you are too tireed for a deep theological discussion (which I wasn’t seeking for, just the simple explanations I received tonight) but you also have some armadillos to shoot. Just warn us if Mrs. Shannon will go out and do the shooting. That’s a sight we don’t need to see. 😉
    Take care.

  259. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    I wonder how many people will belong to the union in Wisconsin after a couple of months?

    http://biggovernment.com/bhealy/2011/08/17/after-failing-with-recalls-big-labor-spams-state-employees/#more-316184

  260. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    I wonder how many people will belong to the union in Wisconsin after a couple of months?
    http://biggovernment.com/bhealy/2011/08/17/after-failing-with-recalls-big-labor-spams-state-employees/#more-316184

  261. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    “Concordat”, I think it’s called.

  262. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    “Concordat”, I think it’s called.

  263. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    No. Catholics and Lutherans are not in full communion.
    And considering the direction of the largest Lutheran body, it won’t happen anytime soon. If ever.

  264. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    No. Catholics and Lutherans are not in full communion.
    And considering the direction of the largest Lutheran body, it won’t happen anytime soon. If ever.

  265. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Darren – I think the Lutheran position sprang from the Reformation when a Catholic Luther criticized (rightly so) his fellow Catholics for twisting the Gospel so that works were used in an attempt to win favor from God. Similarly the clergy sold indulgences, surely a corruption of God’s plan. Luther’s exit also led to a counter-reformation in the Church but alas, it was too late to mend the rift.

  266. Hamous Avatar

    Darren – I think the Lutheran position sprang from the Reformation when a Catholic Luther criticized (rightly so) his fellow Catholics for twisting the Gospel so that works were used in an attempt to win favor from God. Similarly the clergy sold indulgences, surely a corruption of God’s plan. Luther’s exit also led to a counter-reformation in the Church but alas, it was too late to mend the rift.

  267. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    So, it does seem that I am accurate to run around the blogoshpere and say that Catholics believe that good works are necessary for salvation.

    Well, if you say so.
    After years of study, I’m still not sure.
    .
    They’re a slippery bunch. 🙂

  268. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    So, it does seem that I am accurate to run around the blogoshpere and say that Catholics believe that good works are necessary for salvation.

    Well, if you say so.
    After years of study, I’m still not sure.
    .
    They’re a slippery bunch. 🙂

  269. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    mHarper, well alot of folks don’t realize how much agriculture there is out here in Hawaii. Pineapples are not our only crop, although they are our main export. We also export alot of fish from coast to coast on the mainland. Mexico used to have a thriving pineapple business too until Vietnam undercut them. But most everything we produce costs more because of shipping costs from the mainland. Consequently we consume locally most of what we produce – cattle, coffee, bananas, guava, oranges. That’d being said, I hope he meant Illinois, and that he no longer considers Hawaii “home”.

  270. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    mHarper, well alot of folks don’t realize how much agriculture there is out here in Hawaii. Pineapples are not our only crop, although they are our main export. We also export alot of fish from coast to coast on the mainland. Mexico used to have a thriving pineapple business too until Vietnam undercut them. But most everything we produce costs more because of shipping costs from the mainland. Consequently we consume locally most of what we produce – cattle, coffee, bananas, guava, oranges. That’d being said, I hope he meant Illinois, and that he no longer considers Hawaii “home”.

  271. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    If a man were marooned on an island and he had not good works to perform for others, does that mean he would be excluded from Heaven? Long story short, God knows who is a good person, and who is contemptible and evil. It is up to Him to weigh it all and decide the final place we shall be. I keep in mind that Christ the man got pretty darn made and went after the people in the temple with a whip and drove them and their livestock out and dumped their tables over. There is a time for righteous indignation, and when talking and making nice won’t do.

  272. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    If a man were marooned on an island and he had not good works to perform for others, does that mean he would be excluded from Heaven? Long story short, God knows who is a good person, and who is contemptible and evil. It is up to Him to weigh it all and decide the final place we shall be. I keep in mind that Christ the man got pretty darn made and went after the people in the temple with a whip and drove them and their livestock out and dumped their tables over. There is a time for righteous indignation, and when talking and making nice won’t do.

  273. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    If the Catholic church we correct in their Godly decisions, Galileo would have had it alot easier. Popes are not infallible in their decisions, nor those advising him.

  274. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    If the Catholic church we correct in their Godly decisions, Galileo would have had it alot easier. Popes are not infallible in their decisions, nor those advising him.

  275. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    So, it does seem that I am accurate to run around the blogoshpere and say that Catholics believe that good works are necessary for salvation.

    No, I think it’s a little more nuanced than that. Faith is necessary for salvation. Good works necessarily follow faith.

  276. Hamous Avatar

    So, it does seem that I am accurate to run around the blogoshpere and say that Catholics believe that good works are necessary for salvation.

    No, I think it’s a little more nuanced than that. Faith is necessary for salvation. Good works necessarily follow faith.

  277. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    And that is that. I gotta go fix my tired. C ya.

  278. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    And that is that. I gotta go fix my tired. C ya.

  279. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    If a man were marooned on an island and he had not good works to perform for others, does that mean he would be excluded from Heaven?

    Others don’t have to be present with you for you to perform good works. For instance, a lot of people pray for others every night. I think that is a small way you could live more Christ-like.

  280. Hamous Avatar

    If a man were marooned on an island and he had not good works to perform for others, does that mean he would be excluded from Heaven?

    Others don’t have to be present with you for you to perform good works. For instance, a lot of people pray for others every night. I think that is a small way you could live more Christ-like.

  281. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    From Robert Heinlein:

    How anybody expects a man to stay in business with every two-bit wowser in the country claiming a veto over what we can say and can’t say and what we can show and what we can’t show — it’s enough to make you throw up. The whole principle is wrong; it’s like demanding that grown men live on skim milk because the baby can’t eat steak.

  282. El Gordo Avatar

    From Robert Heinlein:
    How anybody expects a man to stay in business with every two-bit wowser in the country claiming a veto over what we can say and can’t say and what we can show and what we can’t show — it’s enough to make you throw up. The whole principle is wrong; it’s like demanding that grown men live on skim milk because the baby can’t eat steak.

  283. LurkerGoneWild Avatar
    LurkerGoneWild

    (sticks head out of LurkCave, savors another cool night…)

    Howdy Hamsterousians!

    Well, here we are again, another evening of “Adventures in Armadilloland” bringing the score to Humans 2, Dillos 0.

    Another dillo showed up tonight, larger than Baby but not quite as big as Monster Dillo. This time, having had a little practice in the fine art of dillo pouncing, things went a little quicker.

    Mr. Dillo made his way through the bushes while they were being watered and got himself into an open position. I, of course, circled around downwind, box in one hand and cover in the other. Whap! The sprinkler cycles back and smacks the cover (and me)! Dillo beats feet at the noise and scampers about 5 yards away. After a minute he finds himself something to dig for and forgets all about me. Silly dillo.

    Stalk. POUNCE! The fight is on! Thumping, bumping, clawing! Cussin’ and fussin’! The stupid cover is far enough away that we have to go through the “scoot the box” exercise again. Aside from taping the cover to my back, there’s no way to do a two-handed pounce and have it nearby.

    OK, Dillo is now safely in the box, the tape was in my pocket this time (amazingly enough, it didn’t fall out in the fray) and in the back porch light the cover was secured. There’s enough room in the back seat of trusty vehicle to put the box, and off we go.

    Pulling back into the driveway, whom do I see? Baby D!

    I get the box out. But he’s fast! And scoots all the way around the house into the back yard. Apparently he remembers the last time when I almost got him, and doesn’t want to stick around this time, either. He has taken shelter under the tool shed. Don’t worry, I’ll get ‘im. Later.

    Time for recuperation and that cold adult beverage in the fridge…

    ‘Nyt all!

    (retreats back into LurkCave, contemplating buying new track shoes for catching Baby D)

    P.S. Hey Bigs, do you have dillos in Hawaii? Want some? They’re really fun to catch 😀

  284. LurkerGoneWild Avatar
    LurkerGoneWild

    (sticks head out of LurkCave, savors another cool night…)
    Howdy Hamsterousians!
    Well, here we are again, another evening of “Adventures in Armadilloland” bringing the score to Humans 2, Dillos 0.
    Another dillo showed up tonight, larger than Baby but not quite as big as Monster Dillo. This time, having had a little practice in the fine art of dillo pouncing, things went a little quicker.
    Mr. Dillo made his way through the bushes while they were being watered and got himself into an open position. I, of course, circled around downwind, box in one hand and cover in the other. Whap! The sprinkler cycles back and smacks the cover (and me)! Dillo beats feet at the noise and scampers about 5 yards away. After a minute he finds himself something to dig for and forgets all about me. Silly dillo.
    Stalk. POUNCE! The fight is on! Thumping, bumping, clawing! Cussin’ and fussin’! The stupid cover is far enough away that we have to go through the “scoot the box” exercise again. Aside from taping the cover to my back, there’s no way to do a two-handed pounce and have it nearby.
    OK, Dillo is now safely in the box, the tape was in my pocket this time (amazingly enough, it didn’t fall out in the fray) and in the back porch light the cover was secured. There’s enough room in the back seat of trusty vehicle to put the box, and off we go.
    Pulling back into the driveway, whom do I see? Baby D!
    I get the box out. But he’s fast! And scoots all the way around the house into the back yard. Apparently he remembers the last time when I almost got him, and doesn’t want to stick around this time, either. He has taken shelter under the tool shed. Don’t worry, I’ll get ‘im. Later.
    Time for recuperation and that cold adult beverage in the fridge…
    ‘Nyt all!
    (retreats back into LurkCave, contemplating buying new track shoes for catching Baby D)
    P.S. Hey Bigs, do you have dillos in Hawaii? Want some? They’re really fun to catch 😀

  285. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    Lurker, there are no native mammals in Hawaii. All the mammals here are imports…even the rodents. I did have armadillos at my place in Oak Ridge North, and plenty out the back gate in the woods when I lived at FM 1488 and Texas 242 (College Park). I’m just stocking up on ammo in case Obama gets elected again and the whole darn thing falls apart.

  286. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    Lurker, there are no native mammals in Hawaii. All the mammals here are imports…even the rodents. I did have armadillos at my place in Oak Ridge North, and plenty out the back gate in the woods when I lived at FM 1488 and Texas 242 (College Park). I’m just stocking up on ammo in case Obama gets elected again and the whole darn thing falls apart.

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