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  1. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Pole!

  2. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    Czech!

  3. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    Czech!

  4. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    I remember watching a shuttle nightime landing when we lived in Tomball, so it would have been in 1999. An incredible sight, a red streak completely across the sky. From horizon to horizon in about 20 minutes IIRC.

  5. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    I remember watching a shuttle nightime landing when we lived in Tomball, so it would have been in 1999. An incredible sight, a red streak completely across the sky. From horizon to horizon in about 20 minutes IIRC.

  6. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Swede!

  7. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #2 FA
    Hah 🙂

  8. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #2 FA
    Hah 🙂

  9. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    The death of COMMON SENSE? Woodpecker-Saving Daughter Costs Mom $500, Possible Jail Time.
    Mornin’ Gang

  10. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    The death of COMMON SENSE? Woodpecker-Saving Daughter Costs Mom $500, Possible Jail Time.
    Mornin’ Gang

  11. Katfish Avatar

    Mom always said to stay away from peckerwoods.

  12. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Mom always said to stay away from peckerwoods.

  13. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    I look at the APOD every day. If I didn’t, I would think that it is the remnants of the American dream jettisoned and destined to burn up.

  14. El Gordo Avatar

    I look at the APOD every day. If I didn’t, I would think that it is the remnants of the American dream jettisoned and destined to burn up.

  15. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    GJT
    I probably saw the same one. We were returning from a late night water main repair. We pulled into the nursing home parking lot on the North side of Bellville, got out of the truck, waited about three minutes and right on time it streaked silently across the sky. A heart stopping witness to a 17,000mph fireball trailed by a huge, steamy contrail. It seemed you could reach out and touch it. Then BOOM!!!!!!
    Wow.

  16. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    GJT
    I probably saw the same one. We were returning from a late night water main repair. We pulled into the nursing home parking lot on the North side of Bellville, got out of the truck, waited about three minutes and right on time it streaked silently across the sky. A heart stopping witness to a 17,000mph fireball trailed by a huge, steamy contrail. It seemed you could reach out and touch it. Then BOOM!!!!!!
    Wow.

  17. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Good morning Hamsters. Only made it to 98 in our back yard yesterday with humidity in the low 30s, but on the road to Richmond it was 100 on the car thermometer. Ugh. Started at 75 today at 6 and stuffy rather than mugly. Not a good omen.

    Last evening we had a hawk, a piliated woodpecker ( Wood Woodpecker type), and a young squirrel doing a kabuki dance around the small tank in the side pasture. Squirrel was perched on the side getting a drink. Woody flew down from the fence rail to the tank, and Squirrel leaped up to the fence rail, eyeing Woody. He finished drinking and flew back to the fence rail as Squirrel jumped down to the tank again. Woody on the fence and Squirrel at the tank left when Hawk approached to drink, but Squirrel went to his fence rail and watched. Hawk drank and left, and Squirrel remained for a time facing the tank as if guarding it. Got the impression Squirrel thinks he owns the tank.

    As for the vote yesterday on the spending ceiling, I applaud the Republican no votes, especially Ron Paul and Ted Poe in our area. They all have titanium spines. As for those who voted yes, they have lots of ‘splainin’ to do and better hop to it today. Senators Hutchison and Cornyn will sadly likely have ‘splainin’ to do today as well. The ‘splainin’ better be good.

    Kevin Brady called in to KSEV early this morning and gave his explanation. Good for him for not hiding. Waiting for the rest of the area Reps to explain as well.

    Tea Party Hobbit and proud of my furry feet. Take that, Joe Biden.

  18. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Good morning Hamsters. Only made it to 98 in our back yard yesterday with humidity in the low 30s, but on the road to Richmond it was 100 on the car thermometer. Ugh. Started at 75 today at 6 and stuffy rather than mugly. Not a good omen.
    Last evening we had a hawk, a piliated woodpecker ( Wood Woodpecker type), and a young squirrel doing a kabuki dance around the small tank in the side pasture. Squirrel was perched on the side getting a drink. Woody flew down from the fence rail to the tank, and Squirrel leaped up to the fence rail, eyeing Woody. He finished drinking and flew back to the fence rail as Squirrel jumped down to the tank again. Woody on the fence and Squirrel at the tank left when Hawk approached to drink, but Squirrel went to his fence rail and watched. Hawk drank and left, and Squirrel remained for a time facing the tank as if guarding it. Got the impression Squirrel thinks he owns the tank.
    As for the vote yesterday on the spending ceiling, I applaud the Republican no votes, especially Ron Paul and Ted Poe in our area. They all have titanium spines. As for those who voted yes, they have lots of ‘splainin’ to do and better hop to it today. Senators Hutchison and Cornyn will sadly likely have ‘splainin’ to do today as well. The ‘splainin’ better be good.
    Kevin Brady called in to KSEV early this morning and gave his explanation. Good for him for not hiding. Waiting for the rest of the area Reps to explain as well.
    Tea Party Hobbit and proud of my furry feet. Take that, Joe Biden.

  19. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #11 Adee
    The pileated is the “giant” woodpecker that I have only had the privilege of seeing a few times inside Houston city limits. (Green with envy!) Woodys may be doing well in the drought since there are lots of dead tree limbs for them to peck into.

    About 12 years ago, we had a “regular” red-bellied woodpecker nesting in a maple tree in our back yard. The noisy cavity excavation work attracted starlings that were trying to take over the nest site, and they finally succeeded.

  20. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #11 Adee
    The pileated is the “giant” woodpecker that I have only had the privilege of seeing a few times inside Houston city limits. (Green with envy!) Woodys may be doing well in the drought since there are lots of dead tree limbs for them to peck into.
    About 12 years ago, we had a “regular” red-bellied woodpecker nesting in a maple tree in our back yard. The noisy cavity excavation work attracted starlings that were trying to take over the nest site, and they finally succeeded.

  21. Katfish Avatar

    At this point in the process, I have no problem with how any of the Republicans vote on the current legislation. I don’t believe there were any more gains left to be got. They did make a huge step in at least changing the conversation from “We gotta raise taxes and not cut spending, except for teensy symbolic cuts we were gonna make anyway” to “The problem is spending; taxes are high enough, if not too high.” Is is exceedingly difficult to make great changes in direction or pass major legislation when you hold only one house in Congress and not the Presidency.

    We did not get into this problem overnight; we will not get out of it overnight. This problem has its roots in the 1930’s; it’s been brewing for 70 years. We don’t have 70 years to fix it, but we’re at least headed in a good direction.

  22. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    At this point in the process, I have no problem with how any of the Republicans vote on the current legislation. I don’t believe there were any more gains left to be got. They did make a huge step in at least changing the conversation from “We gotta raise taxes and not cut spending, except for teensy symbolic cuts we were gonna make anyway” to “The problem is spending; taxes are high enough, if not too high.” Is is exceedingly difficult to make great changes in direction or pass major legislation when you hold only one house in Congress and not the Presidency.
    We did not get into this problem overnight; we will not get out of it overnight. This problem has its roots in the 1930’s; it’s been brewing for 70 years. We don’t have 70 years to fix it, but we’re at least headed in a good direction.

  23. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Adee we have a pair of Pileated Woodpeckers that have taken up residence next door. I am amazed at how much time they spend on the ground foraging, even with all the feral cats around….unlike any “regular” woodpecker I’ve ever observed.

  24. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Adee we have a pair of Pileated Woodpeckers that have taken up residence next door. I am amazed at how much time they spend on the ground foraging, even with all the feral cats around….unlike any “regular” woodpecker I’ve ever observed.

  25. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Aborigine!

  26. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Aborigine!

  27. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Today’s o/c pic finally provides something shiny for Southern Tragedy to stare at.

  28. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Today’s o/c pic finally provides something shiny for Southern Tragedy to stare at.

  29. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    G’Morning all

    I am an early riser (4-4:30AM) and I take my coffee out on the patio for my morning meditation, just me, 3 yard cats and the infinity of space. Makes one feel pretty humble and gives a good start to the day.

    You would be surprised at how much space junk makes a fiery re-entry to the atmosphere. At least every two weeks a piece will go burning across the sky, about the visual size of a dime and leave a glowing trail behind it several hundred miles long. Pretty awesome sight.

  30. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    G’Morning all
    I am an early riser (4-4:30AM) and I take my coffee out on the patio for my morning meditation, just me, 3 yard cats and the infinity of space. Makes one feel pretty humble and gives a good start to the day.
    You would be surprised at how much space junk makes a fiery re-entry to the atmosphere. At least every two weeks a piece will go burning across the sky, about the visual size of a dime and leave a glowing trail behind it several hundred miles long. Pretty awesome sight.

  31. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    The debt ceiling deal will pass the Senate early this afternoon. No suspense there. But the vote will be worth watching for another reason: Three Republican Senate sources tell TWS that senators who vote against the deal will be ineligible to serve on the so-called “supercommittee” for deficit reduction that the legislation creates.

    While there’s certain logic to such a policy, it could be self-defeating. Excluding those who vote against the debt deal will ensure that some of the most fiscally conservative members of the Senate Republican caucus, including most of its freshmen, will be reading about the committee’s activities in the newspaper rather than guiding its decisions. Among those who have already declared their opposition to the deal: libertarian-leaning senators Mike Lee and Rand Paul; Jim DeMint, the aggressive fiscal hawk from South Carolina; conservative reformers Ron Johnson from Wisconsin and Pat Toomey from Pennsylvania; the ranking member on the Senate Budget Committee, Jeff Sessions; and Florida’s Marco Rubio, already one of the highest-profile conservatives in Congress.

    Cronyism!
    Cronyism!
    Cronyism!
    Cronyism!

    Fiscal Conservatives Barred from Supercommittee (Updated)

    UPDATE: McConnell spokesman Don Stewart says all senators will be considered. “No one is stronger in his opposition to tax hikes than Sen. McConnell. He will have serious discussions with all those who are interested in serving prior to making any appointments.”

    Guess we’ll see.

  32. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    The debt ceiling deal will pass the Senate early this afternoon. No suspense there. But the vote will be worth watching for another reason: Three Republican Senate sources tell TWS that senators who vote against the deal will be ineligible to serve on the so-called “supercommittee” for deficit reduction that the legislation creates.
    While there’s certain logic to such a policy, it could be self-defeating. Excluding those who vote against the debt deal will ensure that some of the most fiscally conservative members of the Senate Republican caucus, including most of its freshmen, will be reading about the committee’s activities in the newspaper rather than guiding its decisions. Among those who have already declared their opposition to the deal: libertarian-leaning senators Mike Lee and Rand Paul; Jim DeMint, the aggressive fiscal hawk from South Carolina; conservative reformers Ron Johnson from Wisconsin and Pat Toomey from Pennsylvania; the ranking member on the Senate Budget Committee, Jeff Sessions; and Florida’s Marco Rubio, already one of the highest-profile conservatives in Congress.

    Cronyism!
    Cronyism!
    Cronyism!
    Cronyism!
    Fiscal Conservatives Barred from Supercommittee (Updated)

    UPDATE: McConnell spokesman Don Stewart says all senators will be considered. “No one is stronger in his opposition to tax hikes than Sen. McConnell. He will have serious discussions with all those who are interested in serving prior to making any appointments.”

    Guess we’ll see.

  33. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    mharper42 and Shannon, These Woodys are fun to watch. A few years ago we had three pairs sitting on a fence rail, proud as could be. I think they mate for life. A little later they were pecking for carpenter bee larvae laid in holes in the underside and sides of the rails. So there they were hanging upside down by their not so tiny feet gripping the top of the rail and going at it. The holes they enlarged were impressive. They hit paydirt.

    They are loud, and I wondered what keeps them from getting massive headaches. Saw a piece in a bird book explaining they have a built-in shock absorber behind their beaks that takes the concussion. Guess that’s why they can peck for a long time and not fall exhausted off the tree trunk.

    The one last night spent quite a while pecking in the live oak next to our garden room before he went over to the water tank. Did not see a mate around. The are quite elegant.

  34. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    mharper42 and Shannon, These Woodys are fun to watch. A few years ago we had three pairs sitting on a fence rail, proud as could be. I think they mate for life. A little later they were pecking for carpenter bee larvae laid in holes in the underside and sides of the rails. So there they were hanging upside down by their not so tiny feet gripping the top of the rail and going at it. The holes they enlarged were impressive. They hit paydirt.
    They are loud, and I wondered what keeps them from getting massive headaches. Saw a piece in a bird book explaining they have a built-in shock absorber behind their beaks that takes the concussion. Guess that’s why they can peck for a long time and not fall exhausted off the tree trunk.
    The one last night spent quite a while pecking in the live oak next to our garden room before he went over to the water tank. Did not see a mate around. The are quite elegant.

  35. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    16
    Now that’s funny.

  36. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    16
    Now that’s funny.

  37. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Speaking of the debt vote……..
    Is Boehner as bad as Pelosi?

    In remarks at the 2010 Legislative Conference for the National Association of Counties, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said, “But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of controversy.”

    And Boehner does the same thing:

    Debt-Limit Vote Breaks GOP Pledge to Post Bills Online for 3 Days Before Vote

    (CNSNews.com) – When the House of Representatives voted this evening on legislation to increase the limit on the federal debt by as much as $2.4 trillion, House Republicans broke a promise included in their 2010 Pledge to America to post the text of bills online “for at least three days” before bringing them up for a vote.

    snip…….

    This Pledge to America was released on Sept. 23, 2010, in the midst of the 2010 congressional campaign season, which ended with the Republicans taking back control of the House of Representatives from the Democrats.

    Explaining the Republicans’ vision in a response to President Obama’s radio address on Oct. 30, 2010—just before the election—Rep. John Boehner explained that “Americans should have three days to read all bills before Congress votes on them.”

    snip……..

    The promise to post bills online for three days before voting on them was included in a section of the Pledge to America that focused on reforming Congress.

    snip……

    Curiously, a summary of how the Republican Congress has fulfilled the Pledge that is included on the House Republican Conference’s Web site qualifies the language of the promise to post legislation online three days before voting on it. This summary headlines the Pledge’s section on the three-day rule: “A Three Day Waiting Period on all Non-Emergency Legislation.”

    The words “non-emergency” or “emergency” do not appear anywhere in the text of the original Pledge for America as published by the House Republicans,

    and as still available in full-text form on the Republican Conference’s Web site.

    snip……..

    Those asked included
    House Speaker John Boehner,
    Majority Leader Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va.),
    House Republican Conference Chairman Jeb Hensarling (R-Texas),
    Vice Chairman of the Conference Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-Wash.),
    Conference Secretary John Carter (R-Texas),
    and Rep. Chaffetz.
    None of these House Republicans responded to the question.

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/debt-ceiling-vote-what-about-gop-pledge

  38. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Speaking of the debt vote……..
    Is Boehner as bad as Pelosi?

    In remarks at the 2010 Legislative Conference for the National Association of Counties, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said, “But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of controversy.”

    And Boehner does the same thing:

    Debt-Limit Vote Breaks GOP Pledge to Post Bills Online for 3 Days Before Vote
    (CNSNews.com) – When the House of Representatives voted this evening on legislation to increase the limit on the federal debt by as much as $2.4 trillion, House Republicans broke a promise included in their 2010 Pledge to America to post the text of bills online “for at least three days” before bringing them up for a vote.

    snip…….

    This Pledge to America was released on Sept. 23, 2010, in the midst of the 2010 congressional campaign season, which ended with the Republicans taking back control of the House of Representatives from the Democrats.
    Explaining the Republicans’ vision in a response to President Obama’s radio address on Oct. 30, 2010—just before the election—Rep. John Boehner explained that “Americans should have three days to read all bills before Congress votes on them.”

    snip……..

    The promise to post bills online for three days before voting on them was included in a section of the Pledge to America that focused on reforming Congress.

    snip……

    Curiously, a summary of how the Republican Congress has fulfilled the Pledge that is included on the House Republican Conference’s Web site qualifies the language of the promise to post legislation online three days before voting on it. This summary headlines the Pledge’s section on the three-day rule: “A Three Day Waiting Period on all Non-Emergency Legislation.”
    The words “non-emergency” or “emergency” do not appear anywhere in the text of the original Pledge for America as published by the House Republicans,

    and as still available in full-text form on the Republican Conference’s Web site.

    snip……..

    Those asked included
    House Speaker John Boehner,
    Majority Leader Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va.),
    House Republican Conference Chairman Jeb Hensarling (R-Texas),
    Vice Chairman of the Conference Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-Wash.),
    Conference Secretary John Carter (R-Texas),
    and Rep. Chaffetz.
    None of these House Republicans responded to the question.

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/debt-ceiling-vote-what-about-gop-pledge

  39. Katfish Avatar

    #16 darren
    Speaking of the Tragic One, here’s something to help her broaden her culinary horizons.

  40. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #16 darren
    Speaking of the Tragic One, here’s something to help her broaden her culinary horizons.

  41. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Speaking of woodpeckers:

    Today’s shining example of “No Good Deed Goes Unpunished” comes from Fredericksburg, VA, where a young girl prevented the family cat from pouncing on a lost baby woodpecker and her mom ended up with a $535 ticket (and faces the possibility of jail time) for violating the Federal Migratory Bird Act.

    Despite the fact that 11-year-old Skylar Capo actually saved the tiny lost woodpecker from a violent death, and then successfully released the bird back into the wild, a Virginia State Trooper was still dispatched to the Capo home where Skylar’s mom was slapped with the $535 ticket.

    Courtesy of a cranky woman from the Department of Fish and wildlife.

    11-Yr-Old Girl Saves Baby Bird From Cat, Mom Gets $535 Fine

  42. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Speaking of woodpeckers:

    Today’s shining example of “No Good Deed Goes Unpunished” comes from Fredericksburg, VA, where a young girl prevented the family cat from pouncing on a lost baby woodpecker and her mom ended up with a $535 ticket (and faces the possibility of jail time) for violating the Federal Migratory Bird Act.
    Despite the fact that 11-year-old Skylar Capo actually saved the tiny lost woodpecker from a violent death, and then successfully released the bird back into the wild, a Virginia State Trooper was still dispatched to the Capo home where Skylar’s mom was slapped with the $535 ticket.

    Courtesy of a cranky woman from the Department of Fish and wildlife.
    11-Yr-Old Girl Saves Baby Bird From Cat, Mom Gets $535 Fine

  43. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    wagon;

    2 hind saddle portions of nutria meat

    Yuuuuuummy! 🙂

  44. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    wagon;

    2 hind saddle portions of nutria meat

    Yuuuuuummy! 🙂

  45. El Gordo Avatar

    At this point in the process, I have no problem with how any of the Republicans vote on the current legislation.

    I only have a problem with those who voted YES.

  46. Dooood Avatar

    At this point in the process, I have no problem with how any of the Republicans vote on the current legislation.

    I only have a problem with those who voted YES.

  47. Tedtam Avatar

    WB – I just took a peek at the site admin. Boy, you’ve been busy!

  48. Tedtam Avatar

    WB – I just took a peek at the site admin. Boy, you’ve been busy!

  49. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    13 wagonburner
    With some people talking about going after even John Culberson and Mike McCaul, I have given up hope of ever having a reasonable conversation with them.

  50. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    13 wagonburner
    With some people talking about going after even John Culberson and Mike McCaul, I have given up hope of ever having a reasonable conversation with them.

  51. Katfish Avatar

    #25 dooooooooooooooooood
    Exactly how much more do you think they could have gotten, given the current makeup of the Senate and the Administration? Not only that, but how do you think they could have gotten more? Simply digging in your heels and demanding more is not a strategy unless there is lots more give.

  52. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #25 dooooooooooooooooood
    Exactly how much more do you think they could have gotten, given the current makeup of the Senate and the Administration? Not only that, but how do you think they could have gotten more? Simply digging in your heels and demanding more is not a strategy unless there is lots more give.

  53. El Gordo Avatar

    This wasn’t a question of getting more or strategy for me. It was a question of right or wrong. The right thing to do would have been to not raise the debt ceiling. Period. End of discussion. I’m speaking in the past tense here because it’s pretty well a done deal that this abomination will pass the Senate later today. You’re welcome to your opinions. I have my own, and I have no inclination to support anyone, R or D, who does the wrong thing for political or strategic reasons.

  54. Dooood Avatar

    This wasn’t a question of getting more or strategy for me. It was a question of right or wrong. The right thing to do would have been to not raise the debt ceiling. Period. End of discussion. I’m speaking in the past tense here because it’s pretty well a done deal that this abomination will pass the Senate later today. You’re welcome to your opinions. I have my own, and I have no inclination to support anyone, R or D, who does the wrong thing for political or strategic reasons.

  55. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #23 Darren That would be my #7.

  56. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #23 Darren That would be my #7.

  57. Katfish Avatar

    #29 dooooooooooooooooood
    What would not raising the ceiling have accomplished?

  58. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #29 dooooooooooooooooood
    What would not raising the ceiling have accomplished?

  59. El Gordo Avatar

    A forced prioritization of what the federal government is and is not willing to fund.

  60. Dooood Avatar

    A forced prioritization of what the federal government is and is not willing to fund.

  61. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    What is it about Yankee Dunkin Donuts anyway?

    A couple days ago I posted about a kid who was arrested for adding some “extra ingredient” to the coffee of a couple of cops.

    Now we have a story about some “extra sugar”

  62. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    What is it about Yankee Dunkin Donuts anyway?
    A couple days ago I posted about a kid who was arrested for adding some “extra ingredient” to the coffee of a couple of cops.
    Now we have a story about some “extra sugar”

  63. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    32 Dooood says:
    August 2, 2011 at 11:24 am

    A forced prioritization of what the federal government is and is not willing to fund.

    I would have acted much like a massive snowstorm. It would have shown us what is “essential” and what is not.

    Once that’s done, you just defund the “non-essential” stuff you can’t fund without going into debt.

  64. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    32 Dooood says:
    August 2, 2011 at 11:24 am
    A forced prioritization of what the federal government is and is not willing to fund.

    I would have acted much like a massive snowstorm. It would have shown us what is “essential” and what is not.
    Once that’s done, you just defund the “non-essential” stuff you can’t fund without going into debt.

  65. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #34 Sarge
    Unfortunately, most R’s and D’s are diametrically opposed on what is “essential” for gubmint to do. And the R’s currently only control 1/2 of 1/3 of the gubmint power. 2012 may fix that.

  66. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #34 Sarge
    Unfortunately, most R’s and D’s are diametrically opposed on what is “essential” for gubmint to do. And the R’s currently only control 1/2 of 1/3 of the gubmint power. 2012 may fix that.

  67. El Gordo Avatar

    I would have acted much like a massive snowstorm. It would have shown us what is “essential” and what is not.

    Once that’s done, you just defund the “non-essential” stuff you can’t fund without going into debt.

    Exactly. But it’s a moot point now. The Senate just passed it. Apparently continuing to be able to spend money we don’t have now is more important than our kids’ futures. Catch y’all later.

  68. Dooood Avatar

    I would have acted much like a massive snowstorm. It would have shown us what is “essential” and what is not.
    Once that’s done, you just defund the “non-essential” stuff you can’t fund without going into debt.

    Exactly. But it’s a moot point now. The Senate just passed it. Apparently continuing to be able to spend money we don’t have now is more important than our kids’ futures. Catch y’all later.

  69. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I get tired of the Establishment Squishes walking around and beating their chests on what a huge “victory” this was. I wonder who they are trying to convince more: me or themselves.

    I get real tired of Establishment types telling me what great victories “we” have achieved when all I see is my country going down the toilet. Don’t pee on my leg and tell me its raining.

    No spending got cut. Spending will increase, just slower. Obama gets $2 Trillion to play with in the runup to the election.

    Government did not get smaller. What we got was Establishment Republican Smaller Big Government.

  70. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I get tired of the Establishment Squishes walking around and beating their chests on what a huge “victory” this was. I wonder who they are trying to convince more: me or themselves.
    I get real tired of Establishment types telling me what great victories “we” have achieved when all I see is my country going down the toilet. Don’t pee on my leg and tell me its raining.
    No spending got cut. Spending will increase, just slower. Obama gets $2 Trillion to play with in the runup to the election.
    Government did not get smaller. What we got was Establishment Republican Smaller Big Government.

  71. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    If ya didn’t know what “trailer trash” was before, this story will shove it in your face. Note: The foot in the shoe (stock image) does not belong with the mug shot.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2021420/Thelma-Carter-stiletto-murder-Boyfriend-Robert-Higdon-killed-heel-head.html

  72. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    If ya didn’t know what “trailer trash” was before, this story will shove it in your face. Note: The foot in the shoe (stock image) does not belong with the mug shot.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2021420/Thelma-Carter-stiletto-murder-Boyfriend-Robert-Higdon-killed-heel-head.html

  73. Katfish Avatar

    doooooooooooooood & sarge

    A forced prioritization of what the federal government is and is not willing to fund.

    I would have acted much like a massive snowstorm. It would have shown us what is “essential” and what is not.

    Once that’s done, you just defund the “non-essential” stuff you can’t fund without going into debt.

    What really would have happened is that current Treasury bonds, SS, Medicare, Medicaid, critical Defense spending and just a tiny bit more would have been paid and pretty much the entire rest of the Federal Government would have been defunded.

    Massive chaos would also have ensued.

    The Republicans would have gotten the blame for it (mostly rightly) and would likely never see any chance to move their agenda forward again. Ever.

  74. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    doooooooooooooood & sarge

    A forced prioritization of what the federal government is and is not willing to fund.

    I would have acted much like a massive snowstorm. It would have shown us what is “essential” and what is not.
    Once that’s done, you just defund the “non-essential” stuff you can’t fund without going into debt.

    What really would have happened is that current Treasury bonds, SS, Medicare, Medicaid, critical Defense spending and just a tiny bit more would have been paid and pretty much the entire rest of the Federal Government would have been defunded.
    Massive chaos would also have ensued.
    The Republicans would have gotten the blame for it (mostly rightly) and would likely never see any chance to move their agenda forward again. Ever.

  75. Hamous Avatar

    I wanna know if anybody is watching to see if O is going to eat or drink anything during daylight the ramadamadingdongdon celebration. I wanna see him “mysteriously” not being seen consuming during daylight. I wonder how much he is going to even show himself during this season???

  76. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    I wanna know if anybody is watching to see if O is going to eat or drink anything during daylight the ramadamadingdongdon celebration. I wanna see him “mysteriously” not being seen consuming during daylight. I wonder how much he is going to even show himself during this season???

  77. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    What really would have happened is that current Treasury bonds, SS, Medicare, Medicaid, critical Defense spending and just a tiny bit more would have been paid and pretty much the entire rest of the Federal Government would have been defunded.

    Massive chaos would also have ensued.

    I said:

    Don’t pee on my leg and tell me its raining.

    The rest of the frikkin Federal Government NEEDS to be defunded. That’s what we MEAN by “smaller Government.”

    Fix the roads that go across state lines.

    Run the post office.

    Close and secure the borders.

    Pay the military and fund Defense.

    Run the Air Traffic Control System.

    You can fund all that with current revenues. Everything else is a luxury. The EPA, OSHA, Department of Education, FHA—all of that crap can be done at the state level, and each state have its own version. Leave all that money we send to Washington here. I’m getting tired of the government bribing me with the money it takes from me.

  78. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    What really would have happened is that current Treasury bonds, SS, Medicare, Medicaid, critical Defense spending and just a tiny bit more would have been paid and pretty much the entire rest of the Federal Government would have been defunded.
    Massive chaos would also have ensued.

    I said:
    Don’t pee on my leg and tell me its raining.
    The rest of the frikkin Federal Government NEEDS to be defunded. That’s what we MEAN by “smaller Government.”
    Fix the roads that go across state lines.
    Run the post office.
    Close and secure the borders.
    Pay the military and fund Defense.
    Run the Air Traffic Control System.
    You can fund all that with current revenues. Everything else is a luxury. The EPA, OSHA, Department of Education, FHA—all of that crap can be done at the state level, and each state have its own version. Leave all that money we send to Washington here. I’m getting tired of the government bribing me with the money it takes from me.

  79. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I’m also getting tired of being threatened with the End of Life As We Know It.

  80. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I’m also getting tired of being threatened with the End of Life As We Know It.

  81. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Seriously man.

    We’ve been told that we’re “on the brink of destruction unless we do this” so many frikkin times its lost its urgency.

    How’d that work out with TARP?

    Crap.

    Its all crap.

  82. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Seriously man.
    We’ve been told that we’re “on the brink of destruction unless we do this” so many frikkin times its lost its urgency.
    How’d that work out with TARP?
    Crap.
    Its all crap.

  83. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    What would not raising the ceiling have accomplished?

    Violating the 14th amendemt?

    Massive chaos would also have ensued.

    A lousy standard to live by.

  84. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    What would not raising the ceiling have accomplished?

    Violating the 14th amendemt?

    Massive chaos would also have ensued.

    A lousy standard to live by.

  85. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Super Dave;

    Sorry for skipping your #7. 🙁

  86. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Super Dave;
    Sorry for skipping your #7. 🙁

  87. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I’ve got Sarge in one ear and Squawk in the other saying exactly the same thing.
    Stereo, baby!

  88. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I’ve got Sarge in one ear and Squawk in the other saying exactly the same thing.
    Stereo, baby!

  89. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    With the compromise made we now have more debt spending authorized. I do believe now the debt ceiling is $4,000,000,000,000. with that a done deal, Democrats are now gearing up to make sure we’re going to have more taxes.

    We’ve had too much talk the last few days of Republicans as early as this morning, Republican leaders in the Senate saying there will be no revenue. That’s not going to happen. Otherwise, the trigger is going to kick in.

    LINK

    As pointed out in Glenn Beck this morning, the balanced budget amendment has to have clear language saying that the budget must be balanced through cuts otherwise Democrats would seize upon it (if it’s law) to justify raising taxes to “balance the budget”. Likewise, now that decisions will be made by a bi-partisan committee, increasing taxes is pretty much a done deal. If so this compromise would accomplish more debt spending and higher taxes.

  90. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    With the compromise made we now have more debt spending authorized. I do believe now the debt ceiling is $4,000,000,000,000. with that a done deal, Democrats are now gearing up to make sure we’re going to have more taxes.

    We’ve had too much talk the last few days of Republicans as early as this morning, Republican leaders in the Senate saying there will be no revenue. That’s not going to happen. Otherwise, the trigger is going to kick in.

    LINK
    As pointed out in Glenn Beck this morning, the balanced budget amendment has to have clear language saying that the budget must be balanced through cuts otherwise Democrats would seize upon it (if it’s law) to justify raising taxes to “balance the budget”. Likewise, now that decisions will be made by a bi-partisan committee, increasing taxes is pretty much a done deal. If so this compromise would accomplish more debt spending and higher taxes.

  91. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #40 –

    Massive chaos would also have ensued.

    Sorry compadre I aint buying it – can you document / illustrate any “chaos” in Minnesota?

  92. Katfish Avatar

    #40 –

    Massive chaos would also have ensued.

    Sorry compadre I aint buying it – can you document / illustrate any “chaos” in Minnesota?

  93. Katfish Avatar

    I’ve got Sarge income armband Squawk in the other saying exactly the same thing.

    Are you high?

  94. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I’ve got Sarge income armband Squawk in the other saying exactly the same thing.

    Are you high?

  95. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Our economy didn’t need Washington to come along with a manufactured crisis to make things worse. That was in our hands. It’s pretty likely that the uncertainty surrounding the raising of the debt ceiling for both businesses and consumers has been unsettling and just one more impediment to the full recovery that we need and it’s something we could have avoided entirely.

    President Obama

    Leader!
    Leader!
    Leader!
    Leader!

    Obama Reflects On Debt Fight: Didn’t Need This “Manufactured Crisis”

  96. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Our economy didn’t need Washington to come along with a manufactured crisis to make things worse. That was in our hands. It’s pretty likely that the uncertainty surrounding the raising of the debt ceiling for both businesses and consumers has been unsettling and just one more impediment to the full recovery that we need and it’s something we could have avoided entirely.

    President Obama
    Leader!
    Leader!
    Leader!
    Leader!
    Obama Reflects On Debt Fight: Didn’t Need This “Manufactured Crisis”

  97. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    can you document / illustrate any “chaos” in Minnesota?

    Or California? That’s a state of compromise with both parties.

  98. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    can you document / illustrate any “chaos” in Minnesota?

    Or California? That’s a state of compromise with both parties.

  99. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #41 – An interesting slant ——– and I’d wager a BUNCH it’ll be very difficult to gather anything beyond circumstantial evidence……………………but that being said I’m all too familiar with the telltale signs…………….watch for weariness in the eyes and general body language – i.e. rubbing eyes, licking lips, previously not noticeable tics or twitches, all over ‘jerkiness’ in general…………………..I recall all too well how generally worthless our houseboy Mohammed was during Ramadan………..and more & more so as the month progressed……………..he was a veritable”walking corpse” by the end every year.

  100. Katfish Avatar

    #41 – An interesting slant ——– and I’d wager a BUNCH it’ll be very difficult to gather anything beyond circumstantial evidence……………………but that being said I’m all too familiar with the telltale signs…………….watch for weariness in the eyes and general body language – i.e. rubbing eyes, licking lips, previously not noticeable tics or twitches, all over ‘jerkiness’ in general…………………..I recall all too well how generally worthless our houseboy Mohammed was during Ramadan………..and more & more so as the month progressed……………..he was a veritable”walking corpse” by the end every year.

  101. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Though the bill removes the threat of imminent default by raising the national debt limit enough to last until 2013, its cuts are only about half the $4 trillion in savings that ratings agencies Standard & Poor’s and Moody’s have said would be enough to confirm the country’s triple-A rating with a stable outlook.

    Adding a sense of immediacy to downgrade anxieties, S&P said in mid-July there was a 50-50 chance it would cut U.S. ratings in the next three months if lawmakers failed to craft a meaningful plan to cut the nation’s deficit.

    Does this mean the door to chaos still looms?

    Debt deal doesn’t dispel downgrade fear

  102. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Though the bill removes the threat of imminent default by raising the national debt limit enough to last until 2013, its cuts are only about half the $4 trillion in savings that ratings agencies Standard & Poor’s and Moody’s have said would be enough to confirm the country’s triple-A rating with a stable outlook.
    Adding a sense of immediacy to downgrade anxieties, S&P said in mid-July there was a 50-50 chance it would cut U.S. ratings in the next three months if lawmakers failed to craft a meaningful plan to cut the nation’s deficit.

    Does this mean the door to chaos still looms?
    Debt deal doesn’t dispel downgrade fear

  103. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    50
    I wish.
    I repaired it.
    IPhone auto edit is the most annoying feature. I wish I could turn it Off.

  104. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    50
    I wish.
    I repaired it.
    IPhone auto edit is the most annoying feature. I wish I could turn it Off.

  105. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #52 – I wasn’t aware of any official Gubmint* shutdown in CA………………

    *tosses a quarter in Sarge’s royalty tray……….

  106. Katfish Avatar

    #52 – I wasn’t aware of any official Gubmint* shutdown in CA………………
    *tosses a quarter in Sarge’s royalty tray……….

  107. Katfish Avatar

    #49 katfish & #42 sarge & (possibly) squack
    I posted a very partial list of things that would cease to be funded overnight as the result of a failure to raise the debt ceiling. You may or may not think it would be a problem to suddenly cease funding any or all those items. Also remember that there would be many, many businesses/people to whom the government owes money for goods and services already provided who would not be paid.

    You are delusional if you think it would be a smooth transition from Federal to State (or no) funding even if we had a period of years to plan and implement that change. I happen to agree with you that the Federal government is involved in way too many things it should not be and that it consumes entirely too much money and other resources. Cutting funding off suddenly would wreck the economy, especially given its current weakness.

  108. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #49 katfish & #42 sarge & (possibly) squack
    I posted a very partial list of things that would cease to be funded overnight as the result of a failure to raise the debt ceiling. You may or may not think it would be a problem to suddenly cease funding any or all those items. Also remember that there would be many, many businesses/people to whom the government owes money for goods and services already provided who would not be paid.
    You are delusional if you think it would be a smooth transition from Federal to State (or no) funding even if we had a period of years to plan and implement that change. I happen to agree with you that the Federal government is involved in way too many things it should not be and that it consumes entirely too much money and other resources. Cutting funding off suddenly would wreck the economy, especially given its current weakness.

  109. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I’m also getting tired of “super committees” and “Leadership Negotiations.”

    That’s not how this Republic was designed to work.

  110. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I’m also getting tired of “super committees” and “Leadership Negotiations.”
    That’s not how this Republic was designed to work.

  111. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Bad boys. Whatchya gonna do when they come for you (in England)?

    Wild Vid: British Cop Gets Hit by Speeding Car & Still Chases Down Crook

  112. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Bad boys. Whatchya gonna do when they come for you (in England)?
    Wild Vid: British Cop Gets Hit by Speeding Car & Still Chases Down Crook

  113. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I wasn’t aware of any official Gubmint* shutdown in CA………………

    It’s not. But there is compromise and fnancial disaster. (They actually need a shutdown).

  114. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I wasn’t aware of any official Gubmint* shutdown in CA………………

    It’s not. But there is compromise and fnancial disaster. (They actually need a shutdown).

  115. timdenchanter Avatar
    timdenchanter

    While I sit here jousting with the IRS trying to convince them I don’t owe any more money on my 2009 taxes, President-For-Life Wisheewuz, BHO, tells me I need to sacrifice more even though it has been nearly 10 years since I flew that corporate jet. Hairy The Reed reminds me that my Social Obscurity check may have been delayed if the bill was not passed and the echo of at least one local Representative(?) whines “It was the best we could do…” Dangit! Why don’t I feel better? Why doesn’t it give me a warm, fuzzy feeling to see my IRA decline in value daily? Why should it cost me $60K to replace a 6-year-old, $36K pickup? How is it possible for me to walk out of Kroger with $200 worth of groceries in one hand as Charles Butt orders the demise of the sanctuary city bill in the legislature? I ain’t mad as he// yet but I ain’t far from it.

  116. timdenchanter Avatar
    timdenchanter

    While I sit here jousting with the IRS trying to convince them I don’t owe any more money on my 2009 taxes, President-For-Life Wisheewuz, BHO, tells me I need to sacrifice more even though it has been nearly 10 years since I flew that corporate jet. Hairy The Reed reminds me that my Social Obscurity check may have been delayed if the bill was not passed and the echo of at least one local Representative(?) whines “It was the best we could do…” Dangit! Why don’t I feel better? Why doesn’t it give me a warm, fuzzy feeling to see my IRA decline in value daily? Why should it cost me $60K to replace a 6-year-old, $36K pickup? How is it possible for me to walk out of Kroger with $200 worth of groceries in one hand as Charles Butt orders the demise of the sanctuary city bill in the legislature? I ain’t mad as he// yet but I ain’t far from it.

  117. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #57 – I won’t disagree with anything you’ve typed – the FACT remains ALL that you mention WILL HAPPEN sooner or LATER – and each and every second “later” (IMHO) it will just be WORSE…………

    I’ll take my gallon of castor oil NOW please versus a tanker truckload later thank-ya-very-much

  118. Katfish Avatar

    #57 – I won’t disagree with anything you’ve typed – the FACT remains ALL that you mention WILL HAPPEN sooner or LATER – and each and every second “later” (IMHO) it will just be WORSE…………
    I’ll take my gallon of castor oil NOW please versus a tanker truckload later thank-ya-very-much

  119. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I posted a very partial list of things that would cease to be funded overnight as the result of a failure to raise the debt ceiling. You may or may not think it would be a problem to suddenly cease funding any or all those items. Also remember that there would be many, many businesses/people to whom the government owes money for goods and services already provided who would not be paid.

    You posted an opinion. A week or so ago, somebody here posted an interactive site where any individual could choose what to fund with the $180 BILLION dollars coming in the month of August.

    I funded those things I mentioned, plus a few others, and ended up with $35 BILLION still unspent.

    The problem is the frikkin programs you’re telling us will stop.

    SO STOP THEM.

    We can do without most of it.

    The more the government does for me, the less I have.

  120. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I posted a very partial list of things that would cease to be funded overnight as the result of a failure to raise the debt ceiling. You may or may not think it would be a problem to suddenly cease funding any or all those items. Also remember that there would be many, many businesses/people to whom the government owes money for goods and services already provided who would not be paid.

    You posted an opinion. A week or so ago, somebody here posted an interactive site where any individual could choose what to fund with the $180 BILLION dollars coming in the month of August.
    I funded those things I mentioned, plus a few others, and ended up with $35 BILLION still unspent.
    The problem is the frikkin programs you’re telling us will stop.
    SO STOP THEM.
    We can do without most of it.
    The more the government does for me, the less I have.

  121. Katfish Avatar

    The TSA is gonna try the “Isreali model”.

    Those idiot wouldn’t be able to tell someone has terrorist tendencies even if he showed up to the airport with an AK-47 and wearing a bomb vest. All this new bit of theater will accomplish is make the long lines even longer – just like the Rape-o-Scan machines do now.

    The TSA said those machines would speed up the screening process, but empirical observation yesterday morning told me that for every one person screened in a Rape-o-Scan, three people (or more) made it through each of the legacy metal detectors.

  122. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    The TSA is gonna try the “Isreali model”.
    Those idiot wouldn’t be able to tell someone has terrorist tendencies even if he showed up to the airport with an AK-47 and wearing a bomb vest. All this new bit of theater will accomplish is make the long lines even longer – just like the Rape-o-Scan machines do now.
    The TSA said those machines would speed up the screening process, but empirical observation yesterday morning told me that for every one person screened in a Rape-o-Scan, three people (or more) made it through each of the legacy metal detectors.

  123. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    What am I missing here. In CD-22, presumably the most conservative district in the country, has its representative Pete Olsen vote one more time to increase the debt limit. Both of Texas senators also vote in favor of the increase, yet Texas is considered one of the reddest of the red states.

    What is it going to take to get proper representation for us in Washington? No amount of rationalization, misunderstanding, BS, or whatever can explain why we cannot get our views represented. Lets face it, a woman with no brain voted the same as our folks. .

  124. El Gordo Avatar

    What am I missing here. In CD-22, presumably the most conservative district in the country, has its representative Pete Olsen vote one more time to increase the debt limit. Both of Texas senators also vote in favor of the increase, yet Texas is considered one of the reddest of the red states.
    What is it going to take to get proper representation for us in Washington? No amount of rationalization, misunderstanding, BS, or whatever can explain why we cannot get our views represented. Lets face it, a woman with no brain voted the same as our folks. .

  125. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    We currently borrow about 40% of the budget. That corresponds to the non-green segments in the diagram above. What would be the impact of that?

    You just cut the IRS and all the accountants at Treasury, which means that the actual revenue you have to spend is $0.

    If we don’t spend as much, we don;t need to collect as much. If we don’t need to collect as much, we can fire a whooooooole bunch of those accountants.

    The nation’s nuclear arsenal is no longer being watched or maintained

    Can’t see why, that’s in Defense, and Defense is funded.

    The doors of federal prisons have been thrown open, because none of the guards will work without being paid, and the vendors will not deliver food, medical supplies, electricity,etc.

    I funded Federal Prisons, and still had $35 Billion left over.

    The border control stations are entirely unmanned, so anyone who can buy a plane ticket, or stroll across the Mexican border, is entering the country. All the illegal immigrants currently in detention are released, since we don’t have the money to put them on a plane, and we cannot actually simply leave them in a cell without electricity, sanitation, or food to see what happens.

    How in the corn bread Hell is this different from what we’ve got now?

    All of our troops stationed abroad quickly run out of electricity or fuel. Many of them are sitting in a desert with billions worth of equipment, and no way to get themselves or their equipment back to the US.

    Like I said, we’ve already funded Defense. Red herring.

    Our embassies are no longer operating, which will make things difficult for foreign travellers

    Again, I funded that, and still had money left over.

    No federal emergency assistance, or help fighting things like wildfires or floods. Sorry, tornado people! Sorry, wildfire victims! Try to live in the northeast next time!

    Only a problem if it happens during the month of August. I’m willing to take the chance.

    Housing projects shut down, and Section 8 vouchers are not paid. Families hit the streets.

    Boo frikkin hoo.

    The money your local school district was expecting at the October 1 commencement of the 2012 fiscal year does not materialize, making it unclear who’s going to be teaching your kids without a special property tax assessment.

    Get the Federal Gummint out of my local schools. Don’t collect that part of my income tax. Fire the entire Dept of Education, send whatever money is still ;eft laying around back to the states and let them hire teachers with it.

    The market for guaranteed student loans plunges into chaos. Hope your kid wasn’t going to college this year!

    Get the Federal Government out of Education. Period. Let the market control student loans.

    The mortgage market evaporates. Hope you didn’t need to buy or sell a house!

    The housing market is crap right now., so no change there.

    The FDIC and the PBGC suddenly don’t have a government backstop for their funds, which has all sorts of interesting implications for your bank account.

    I funded that

    The TSA shuts down. Yay! But don’t worry about terrorist attacks, you TSA-lovers, because air traffic control shut down too. Hope you don’t have a vacation planned in August, much less any work travel.

    I funded DHS

    Unemployment money is no longer going to the states, which means that pretty soon, it won’t be going to the unemployed peopl

    Boo frikkin hoo. Let the States decide how much unemployment money they need, collect and disburse it inside the state. Get the Fed out of it.

  126. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    We currently borrow about 40% of the budget. That corresponds to the non-green segments in the diagram above. What would be the impact of that?

    You just cut the IRS and all the accountants at Treasury, which means that the actual revenue you have to spend is $0.

    If we don’t spend as much, we don;t need to collect as much. If we don’t need to collect as much, we can fire a whooooooole bunch of those accountants.

    The nation’s nuclear arsenal is no longer being watched or maintained

    Can’t see why, that’s in Defense, and Defense is funded.

    The doors of federal prisons have been thrown open, because none of the guards will work without being paid, and the vendors will not deliver food, medical supplies, electricity,etc.

    I funded Federal Prisons, and still had $35 Billion left over.

    The border control stations are entirely unmanned, so anyone who can buy a plane ticket, or stroll across the Mexican border, is entering the country. All the illegal immigrants currently in detention are released, since we don’t have the money to put them on a plane, and we cannot actually simply leave them in a cell without electricity, sanitation, or food to see what happens.

    How in the corn bread Hell is this different from what we’ve got now?

    All of our troops stationed abroad quickly run out of electricity or fuel. Many of them are sitting in a desert with billions worth of equipment, and no way to get themselves or their equipment back to the US.

    Like I said, we’ve already funded Defense. Red herring.

    Our embassies are no longer operating, which will make things difficult for foreign travellers

    Again, I funded that, and still had money left over.

    No federal emergency assistance, or help fighting things like wildfires or floods. Sorry, tornado people! Sorry, wildfire victims! Try to live in the northeast next time!

    Only a problem if it happens during the month of August. I’m willing to take the chance.

    Housing projects shut down, and Section 8 vouchers are not paid. Families hit the streets.

    Boo frikkin hoo.

    The money your local school district was expecting at the October 1 commencement of the 2012 fiscal year does not materialize, making it unclear who’s going to be teaching your kids without a special property tax assessment.

    Get the Federal Gummint out of my local schools. Don’t collect that part of my income tax. Fire the entire Dept of Education, send whatever money is still ;eft laying around back to the states and let them hire teachers with it.

    The market for guaranteed student loans plunges into chaos. Hope your kid wasn’t going to college this year!

    Get the Federal Government out of Education. Period. Let the market control student loans.

    The mortgage market evaporates. Hope you didn’t need to buy or sell a house!

    The housing market is crap right now., so no change there.

    The FDIC and the PBGC suddenly don’t have a government backstop for their funds, which has all sorts of interesting implications for your bank account.

    I funded that

    The TSA shuts down. Yay! But don’t worry about terrorist attacks, you TSA-lovers, because air traffic control shut down too. Hope you don’t have a vacation planned in August, much less any work travel.

    I funded DHS

    Unemployment money is no longer going to the states, which means that pretty soon, it won’t be going to the unemployed peopl

    Boo frikkin hoo. Let the States decide how much unemployment money they need, collect and disburse it inside the state. Get the Fed out of it.

  127. Tedtam Avatar

    Well, if you can’t do it in real life….

    I wonder how they’re gonna do it? STD? Angry girlfriend? Cirrhosis? Angry husband? Stupid fall off the railing? Sea gull attack?

  128. Tedtam Avatar

    Well, if you can’t do it in real life….
    I wonder how they’re gonna do it? STD? Angry girlfriend? Cirrhosis? Angry husband? Stupid fall off the railing? Sea gull attack?

  129. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    What is it going to take to get proper representation for us in Washington? No amount of rationalization, misunderstanding, BS, or whatever can explain why we cannot get our views represented. Lets face it, a woman with no brain voted the same as our folks. .

    Dump. Joe. Straus.

    It will scare the bejabbers out of the rest of them. Show the Establishment and the squishes we mean bidness by going after their protected darling.

  130. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    What is it going to take to get proper representation for us in Washington? No amount of rationalization, misunderstanding, BS, or whatever can explain why we cannot get our views represented. Lets face it, a woman with no brain voted the same as our folks. .

    Dump. Joe. Straus.
    It will scare the bejabbers out of the rest of them. Show the Establishment and the squishes we mean bidness by going after their protected darling.

  131. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Seriously guys.

    If we can’t get them all, we all go after a big one.

  132. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Seriously guys.
    If we can’t get them all, we all go after a big one.

  133. Katfish Avatar

    All you accomplish by suddenly yanking funding from all the people and departments you mention is you make the recipients, the people who were inclined to fund those programs in the first place, and everyone else who might have been inclined to support your goals, but only if done in a more thought-out manner, your sworn enemy in this fight. The portion of the population I just out lined is likely at least 75%.

    In other words, you may have succeeded in defunding those items in the Federal budget you think are wasteful (e.g., winning the battle), but you will have immediately foregone any possibility of ever winning another election (losing the war).

    And your “victory” will be very short-lived, because the people voted in to replace the ones who caused the chaos will simply reverse your “victory”.

    Look up “victory, pyrrhic”

  134. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    All you accomplish by suddenly yanking funding from all the people and departments you mention is you make the recipients, the people who were inclined to fund those programs in the first place, and everyone else who might have been inclined to support your goals, but only if done in a more thought-out manner, your sworn enemy in this fight. The portion of the population I just out lined is likely at least 75%.
    In other words, you may have succeeded in defunding those items in the Federal budget you think are wasteful (e.g., winning the battle), but you will have immediately foregone any possibility of ever winning another election (losing the war).
    And your “victory” will be very short-lived, because the people voted in to replace the ones who caused the chaos will simply reverse your “victory”.
    Look up “victory, pyrrhic”

  135. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Wagonburner
    Most of those on Hammie’s couch are of the opinion that we have run out of time. That now is the time to suffer any consequences to stop the government dead in it’s tracks and shut down all non-essential government operations. Period. They no longer believe anything the government or any other entity says about the ramifications of such action and even if the worst case scenarios actually happen, they don’t care. NOW is the time, and their solution is the only solution.
    I understand their position completely and though I disagree with them, I know there is no point in arguing with them. They have made up their minds.
    Their position is not ludicrous.

  136. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Wagonburner
    Most of those on Hammie’s couch are of the opinion that we have run out of time. That now is the time to suffer any consequences to stop the government dead in it’s tracks and shut down all non-essential government operations. Period. They no longer believe anything the government or any other entity says about the ramifications of such action and even if the worst case scenarios actually happen, they don’t care. NOW is the time, and their solution is the only solution.
    I understand their position completely and though I disagree with them, I know there is no point in arguing with them. They have made up their minds.
    Their position is not ludicrous.

  137. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    All you accomplish by suddenly yanking funding from all the people and departments you mention is you make the recipients, the people who were inclined to fund those programs in the first place, and everyone else who might have been inclined to support your goals, but only if done in a more thought-out manner, your sworn enemy in this fight. The portion of the population I just out lined is likely at least 75%.

    Been playin’ nice for forty frikkin’ years.

    Time to try sumpin different.

  138. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    All you accomplish by suddenly yanking funding from all the people and departments you mention is you make the recipients, the people who were inclined to fund those programs in the first place, and everyone else who might have been inclined to support your goals, but only if done in a more thought-out manner, your sworn enemy in this fight. The portion of the population I just out lined is likely at least 75%.

    Been playin’ nice for forty frikkin’ years.
    Time to try sumpin different.

  139. Katfish Avatar

    Their position is not ludicrous.

    I disagree.

    Unless you think the rapture will happen in the next very few years or that the world will otherwise end, you must be concerned with what happens after you (or your designees/representatives) take any action. Unless something major like this is at least nominally bi-/multi-partisan, it will only serve as a political football or tar baby for however many election cycles it takes to change it enough to get an actual plurality of support.

  140. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Their position is not ludicrous.

    I disagree.
    Unless you think the rapture will happen in the next very few years or that the world will otherwise end, you must be concerned with what happens after you (or your designees/representatives) take any action. Unless something major like this is at least nominally bi-/multi-partisan, it will only serve as a political football or tar baby for however many election cycles it takes to change it enough to get an actual plurality of support.

  141. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #73 – Au Contraire Brother – there’s a MYRIAD of “other solutions”…………….each and every one of them is incrementally / exponentially worse than NOW (IMHO)

  142. Katfish Avatar

    #73 – Au Contraire Brother – there’s a MYRIAD of “other solutions”…………….each and every one of them is incrementally / exponentially worse than NOW (IMHO)

  143. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    I’ll add………unless these inside-the-beltway-THIEVES are willing to give ME the same Gawldern blank check they give themselves – I am THU……….T H U puttin up with their BS………………..the sooner the pain the less it will be

  144. Katfish Avatar

    I’ll add………unless these inside-the-beltway-THIEVES are willing to give ME the same Gawldern blank check they give themselves – I am THU……….T H U puttin up with their BS………………..the sooner the pain the less it will be

  145. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I’ve got Sarge in one ear and Squawk in the other saying exactly the same thing.
    Stereo, baby!

    Ooh. Squarge in your head. That’s a dangerous state.

  146. Hamous Avatar

    I’ve got Sarge in one ear and Squawk in the other saying exactly the same thing.
    Stereo, baby!

    Ooh. Squarge in your head. That’s a dangerous state.

  147. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    75 WB
    I forgot to add……if you disagree with some of them, they think you are simply an idiot.

  148. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    75 WB
    I forgot to add……if you disagree with some of them, they think you are simply an idiot.

  149. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Dump. Joe. Straus.

    It will scare the bejabbers out of the rest of them. Show the Establishment and the squishes we mean bidness by going after their protected darling.

    Joe who? Dude. No one in Washington knows who Joe Straus is.

  150. Hamous Avatar

    Dump. Joe. Straus.
    It will scare the bejabbers out of the rest of them. Show the Establishment and the squishes we mean bidness by going after their protected darling.

    Joe who? Dude. No one in Washington knows who Joe Straus is.

  151. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Joe who? Dude. No one in Washington knows who Joe Straus is.

    The question was asked regarding Texas Congresscritters.

    They know who he is, and they know who supports him, and we want to make those who support him poison to anyone who is elected now, or in the future.

    We want the change the Republican Party promised us, even if we have to do it ourselves.

  152. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Joe who? Dude. No one in Washington knows who Joe Straus is.

    The question was asked regarding Texas Congresscritters.
    They know who he is, and they know who supports him, and we want to make those who support him poison to anyone who is elected now, or in the future.
    We want the change the Republican Party promised us, even if we have to do it ourselves.

  153. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    The question was asked regarding Texas Congresscritters.

    Huh??? From your own quote:

    What is it going to take to get proper representation for us in Washington?

    Your obsession appears to be affecting your reading comprehension now.

  154. Hamous Avatar

    The question was asked regarding Texas Congresscritters.

    Huh??? From your own quote:

    What is it going to take to get proper representation for us in Washington?

    Your obsession appears to be affecting your reading comprehension now.

  155. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    What is it going to take to get proper representation for us in Washington?

    Dump.Joe.Strauss.

    HUH?????????????

  156. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    What is it going to take to get proper representation for us in Washington?

    Dump.Joe.Strauss.
    HUH?????????????

  157. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    A bit of levity here, Hamsters.

    Spouse and I finally looked at replacing our dinosaur cell phones (6 years old). My prime gripe was the complicated scenario for retrieving voice mail, which I don’t often do; in between events I forget the dance steps necessary, which produces frustration. Also the button for picture taking was inconveniently located on the side where it is sooo easy to take a picture of your feet by accident. There were likely many pictures of my feet in the memory. Adding names to the directory was also a chore only spouse could fathom. The owners manual was long, not very clear, and written by someone whose first language is not normal English (maybe techie someting). 🙁

    So we looked at the phone store and test drove several brands, read the literature, played with the likely ones a bit more, and decided on the iPhone 3. We don’t need a postcard -sized computer for a phone. The easy cheat-sheet insert is rather vague, and the salesman warned about that. Spouse downloaded part of the owners manual and learned how to run the phone, e-mail, and internet connection stuff. He’s coaching me, and I think I have the calling part under control. It is much easier than the old phone that I never mastered. So is entering things in the directory. This enterprise looks promising.

  158. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    A bit of levity here, Hamsters.
    Spouse and I finally looked at replacing our dinosaur cell phones (6 years old). My prime gripe was the complicated scenario for retrieving voice mail, which I don’t often do; in between events I forget the dance steps necessary, which produces frustration. Also the button for picture taking was inconveniently located on the side where it is sooo easy to take a picture of your feet by accident. There were likely many pictures of my feet in the memory. Adding names to the directory was also a chore only spouse could fathom. The owners manual was long, not very clear, and written by someone whose first language is not normal English (maybe techie someting). 🙁
    So we looked at the phone store and test drove several brands, read the literature, played with the likely ones a bit more, and decided on the iPhone 3. We don’t need a postcard -sized computer for a phone. The easy cheat-sheet insert is rather vague, and the salesman warned about that. Spouse downloaded part of the owners manual and learned how to run the phone, e-mail, and internet connection stuff. He’s coaching me, and I think I have the calling part under control. It is much easier than the old phone that I never mastered. So is entering things in the directory. This enterprise looks promising.

  159. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    The iPhone is a great choice Adee.
    Except for the damned auto edit/auto correct feature.

  160. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    The iPhone is a great choice Adee.
    Except for the damned auto edit/auto correct feature.

  161. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Sarge;

    The representation was asked in regards as to how Texas can send [better] representation to Washington to better represent Texas in Washington. I think El gordo was pointing out that out senators (Cornyn and Hutchinson) voting in harmony with Sheila Jackson Lee. (I think he was referring to Lee. When Gordo talks about a “woman with no brain”, according to Gordo, that could mean any woman).

    UPDATE: Added “[better]” to more accurately reflect Gordo’s question and I added a period to the end of the post.

  162. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Sarge;
    The representation was asked in regards as to how Texas can send [better] representation to Washington to better represent Texas in Washington. I think El gordo was pointing out that out senators (Cornyn and Hutchinson) voting in harmony with Sheila Jackson Lee. (I think he was referring to Lee. When Gordo talks about a “woman with no brain”, according to Gordo, that could mean any woman).
    UPDATE: Added “[better]” to more accurately reflect Gordo’s question and I added a period to the end of the post.

  163. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    What is it going to take to get proper representation for us in Washington?

    Ummm—

    We’re represented in Washington by congress critters elected in this State.

    I think its in the Constitution.

  164. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    What is it going to take to get proper representation for us in Washington?

    Ummm—
    We’re represented in Washington by congress critters elected in this State.
    I think its in the Constitution.

  165. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #85 Shannon, I don’t think we’ve gotten that far in the manual. 🙂

  166. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #85 Shannon, I don’t think we’ve gotten that far in the manual. 🙂

  167. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Dump.Joe.Strauss.

    HUH?????????????

    The problem with the Republicans representing us in Washington is the Republican Party of Texas.

    Change the Republican Party of Texas, and you get better representation in Congress.

    One very good way to do that is to go after a very big RINO with as many hunters as you possibly can get. Make it one who wields more power than the average Congresscritter. Prove to them that we can target the big and powerful and take them down.

    We can’t get them all, but all of us can get a big one.

    Scare the freakin bejabbers out of the Republican Party of Texas.

    Dump. Joe. Straus.

  168. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Dump.Joe.Strauss.
    HUH?????????????

    The problem with the Republicans representing us in Washington is the Republican Party of Texas.
    Change the Republican Party of Texas, and you get better representation in Congress.
    One very good way to do that is to go after a very big RINO with as many hunters as you possibly can get. Make it one who wields more power than the average Congresscritter. Prove to them that we can target the big and powerful and take them down.
    We can’t get them all, but all of us can get a big one.
    Scare the freakin bejabbers out of the Republican Party of Texas.
    Dump. Joe. Straus.

  169. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Shannon;

    Most of those on Hammie’s couch are of the opinion that we have run out of time. That now is the time to suffer any consequences to stop the government dead in it’s tracks and shut down all non-essential government operations. Period. They no longer believe anything the government or any other entity says about the ramifications of such action and even if the worst case scenarios actually happen, they don’t care. NOW is the time, and their solution is the only solution.

    That’s almost what I think. I don’t mind cutting slowly but things MUST be cut starting now. This latest deal and compromise, as I see it, does not cut anything. It raises the debt spending immediately and promises major cuts down the road. That’s not actually cutting a single penny of anything. The only ones in Washington who favor cutting now are the very (Republican) people who voted no on the budget deal.

    And wagonburner is hardly an idiot (though I know what you were referring to). In fact, although I disagree with burner on his position of the need to compromise, his argument is well thought out.

  170. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Shannon;

    Most of those on Hammie’s couch are of the opinion that we have run out of time. That now is the time to suffer any consequences to stop the government dead in it’s tracks and shut down all non-essential government operations. Period. They no longer believe anything the government or any other entity says about the ramifications of such action and even if the worst case scenarios actually happen, they don’t care. NOW is the time, and their solution is the only solution.

    That’s almost what I think. I don’t mind cutting slowly but things MUST be cut starting now. This latest deal and compromise, as I see it, does not cut anything. It raises the debt spending immediately and promises major cuts down the road. That’s not actually cutting a single penny of anything. The only ones in Washington who favor cutting now are the very (Republican) people who voted no on the budget deal.
    And wagonburner is hardly an idiot (though I know what you were referring to). In fact, although I disagree with burner on his position of the need to compromise, his argument is well thought out.

  171. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #85 – Cantcha turn OFF the offending feature Bubba?

  172. Katfish Avatar

    #85 – Cantcha turn OFF the offending feature Bubba?

  173. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Adee
    My daughter won’t even bring her Blackberry to me with a question.
    For fear that I will flush it down the toilet.
    I’ve never met a more user-UNfriendly, non-intuitive designed device in my life.

  174. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Adee
    My daughter won’t even bring her Blackberry to me with a question.
    For fear that I will flush it down the toilet.
    I’ve never met a more user-UNfriendly, non-intuitive designed device in my life.

  175. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    Heck mere disagreement doesn’t = idiocy by either side (contingent upon the tastefulness level of said disagreement of course)………….we need to return to REAL “English”

    i.e. “default” this misnomer should be eradicated from Webster’s or at LEAST be forcibly returned to it’s true connotation or just stop saying it!

    “cut” – for Gawdsakes this means REDUCE – NOT “less-of-an-increase”

    “increase” – should instantly become a strictly historical and nostalgic term (unless we’re talking about my paycheck!)

  176. Katfish Avatar

    Heck mere disagreement doesn’t = idiocy by either side (contingent upon the tastefulness level of said disagreement of course)………….we need to return to REAL “English”
    i.e. “default” this misnomer should be eradicated from Webster’s or at LEAST be forcibly returned to it’s true connotation or just stop saying it!
    “cut” – for Gawdsakes this means REDUCE – NOT “less-of-an-increase”
    “increase” – should instantly become a strictly historical and nostalgic term (unless we’re talking about my paycheck!)

  177. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    91 Kat
    Not unless wagonburner’s link in Comment #58
    says I can.
    I haven’t had time to look at the link yet.

  178. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    91 Kat
    Not unless wagonburner’s link in Comment #58
    says I can.
    I haven’t had time to look at the link yet.

  179. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I must have gotten my syntax wrong. (surprise!)
    I wasn’t calling WB an idiot. He knows that.
    I was……
    Oh forget it.
    Those I was insulting either got it or they didn’t.
    I don’t really care.

  180. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I must have gotten my syntax wrong. (surprise!)
    I wasn’t calling WB an idiot. He knows that.
    I was……
    Oh forget it.
    Those I was insulting either got it or they didn’t.
    I don’t really care.

  181. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #41 Bones

    I wonder how much he is going to even show himself during this season???

    OoooOOooooOOOOoooo I wonder if he has a reflection in the WH mirrors? 🙂
    His handlers would not let him observe ramadan fasting.

  182. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #41 Bones

    I wonder how much he is going to even show himself during this season???

    OoooOOooooOOOOoooo I wonder if he has a reflection in the WH mirrors? 🙂
    His handlers would not let him observe ramadan fasting.

  183. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #96 MH
    But what if there was an Obammy double that ate during the day so the real Obammy could fast till nightfall? Would any of us know about that?

  184. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #96 MH
    But what if there was an Obammy double that ate during the day so the real Obammy could fast till nightfall? Would any of us know about that?

  185. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #49 Kat

    can you document / illustrate any “chaos” in Minnesota?

    Do you mean Wisconsin? If not, what did I miss in Minnesota?

  186. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #49 Kat

    can you document / illustrate any “chaos” in Minnesota?

    Do you mean Wisconsin? If not, what did I miss in Minnesota?

  187. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    A better blogger than I would take a break now…

  188. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    A better blogger than I would take a break now…

  189. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Okay Darren
    I changed it. Here is the corrected version:

    75 WB
    I forgot to add……if you disagree with some of them, they think you are simply an idiot.

  190. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Okay Darren
    I changed it. Here is the corrected version:

    75 WB
    I forgot to add……if you disagree with some of them, they think you are simply an idiot.

  191. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Will the speed monkey stop me?

    dangit. And Shannon didn’t even notice…

  192. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Will the speed monkey stop me?
    dangit. And Shannon didn’t even notice…

  193. Katfish Avatar

    The problem with the Republicans representing us in Washington is the Republican Party of Texas.

    The problem with the Republicans in Washington is the Republicans in Washington. We are each solely and completely responsible for our own actions.

    I’m pretty sure Joe Straus is not holding a gun to Kevin Brady’s head, making him vote a certain way.

  194. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    The problem with the Republicans representing us in Washington is the Republican Party of Texas.

    The problem with the Republicans in Washington is the Republicans in Washington. We are each solely and completely responsible for our own actions.
    I’m pretty sure Joe Straus is not holding a gun to Kevin Brady’s head, making him vote a certain way.

  195. Katfish Avatar

    If not, what did I miss in Minnesota?

    Minnesota’s state government shut down for a few days and few people noticed. Mostly because state governments haven’t insinuated themselves as deeply into the workings of the populace and economy as the Federal government has.

  196. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    If not, what did I miss in Minnesota?

    Minnesota’s state government shut down for a few days and few people noticed. Mostly because state governments haven’t insinuated themselves as deeply into the workings of the populace and economy as the Federal government has.

  197. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Shannon;

    I must have gotten my syntax wrong. (surprise!)
    I wasn’t calling WB an idiot. He knows that.

    Calm thyself. I know you were not calling wagonburner an idiot. I know you do not think wagonburner is an idiot. I was defending you in your position that there are those (or one person in particular) who would consider wagonburner an idiot for simply disagreeing with them (him) an idiot but that indeed wagonburner is not an idiot. in fact, wagonburner’s position is smart and intellectually presented.

  198. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Shannon;

    I must have gotten my syntax wrong. (surprise!)
    I wasn’t calling WB an idiot. He knows that.

    Calm thyself. I know you were not calling wagonburner an idiot. I know you do not think wagonburner is an idiot. I was defending you in your position that there are those (or one person in particular) who would consider wagonburner an idiot for simply disagreeing with them (him) an idiot but that indeed wagonburner is not an idiot. in fact, wagonburner’s position is smart and intellectually presented.

  199. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    The problem with the Republicans in Washington is the Republicans in Washington. We are each solely and completely responsible for our own actions.

    They didn’t spring up there full grown.

    They were elected here in Texas, presented to us as candidates supported by the Republican party of Texas. We need them to give us more conservative candidates, and provide more support to the conservatives who are in office now.

    I’m pretty sure Joe Straus is not holding a gun to Kevin Brady’s head, making him vote a certain way.

    Never said he was. I’m saying use Joe Straus as an example. Show them what we can do if we want to. Then say:

    Who wants to be next?

  200. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    The problem with the Republicans in Washington is the Republicans in Washington. We are each solely and completely responsible for our own actions.

    They didn’t spring up there full grown.
    They were elected here in Texas, presented to us as candidates supported by the Republican party of Texas. We need them to give us more conservative candidates, and provide more support to the conservatives who are in office now.

    I’m pretty sure Joe Straus is not holding a gun to Kevin Brady’s head, making him vote a certain way.

    Never said he was. I’m saying use Joe Straus as an example. Show them what we can do if we want to. Then say:
    Who wants to be next?

  201. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Shannon #100;

    The error in syntax was mine, not yours. I could have been clearer in my reply to you.

    It’s great that we’ve changed the conversation in these parts. We’re actually talking about how wagonburner isn’t an idiot. 😉

  202. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Shannon #100;
    The error in syntax was mine, not yours. I could have been clearer in my reply to you.
    It’s great that we’ve changed the conversation in these parts. We’re actually talking about how wagonburner isn’t an idiot. 😉

  203. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Wagonburner is not an idiot.

    Anybody who thinks Barack Obama will win in Texas, even if Rick Perry is his opponent, is an idiot.

  204. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Wagonburner is not an idiot.
    Anybody who thinks Barack Obama will win in Texas, even if Rick Perry is his opponent, is an idiot.

  205. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #67 Sarge

    Boo frikkin hoo.

    Well put: concise, expressive. I like it!

  206. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #67 Sarge

    Boo frikkin hoo.

    Well put: concise, expressive. I like it!

  207. Katfish Avatar

    iPhone boy – here’s a coupla ways to inhibit autocorrect on an iPhone (iOS v2.2 & higher).

  208. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    iPhone boy – here’s a coupla ways to inhibit autocorrect on an iPhone (iOS v2.2 & higher).

  209. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Shannon #94;

    Not unless wagonburner’s link in Comment #58

    It’s an example of how autocorrect can send, well, the wrong message.

  210. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Shannon #94;

    Not unless wagonburner’s link in Comment #58

    It’s an example of how autocorrect can send, well, the wrong message.

  211. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Anybody who thinks Barack Obama will win in Texas, even if Rick Perry is his opponent, is an idiot.

    Wagonburner, do you think Obama can win Texas?

  212. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Anybody who thinks Barack Obama will win in Texas, even if Rick Perry is his opponent, is an idiot.

    Wagonburner, do you think Obama can win Texas?

  213. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #98 – I reckon I was under the impression that the recent state govt shutdown happened in Minnesota…………………….and I believe it DID

    and the lack of fanfare, mayhem, or yes even CHAOS kinda sorta REALLY makes my DERN point!!!

  214. Katfish Avatar

    #98 – I reckon I was under the impression that the recent state govt shutdown happened in Minnesota…………………….and I believe it DID
    and the lack of fanfare, mayhem, or yes even CHAOS kinda sorta REALLY makes my DERN point!!!

  215. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #68 TT
    Bad clams? Oh wait, I know, a brain aneurysm during one of those rants.

  216. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #68 TT
    Bad clams? Oh wait, I know, a brain aneurysm during one of those rants.

  217. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    Any bets on WHY Minnesota’s budget wranglings weren’t much MUCH bigger news than they apparently have been????????????

    ANYONE?

    BUELLER??

  218. Katfish Avatar

    Any bets on WHY Minnesota’s budget wranglings weren’t much MUCH bigger news than they apparently have been????????????
    ANYONE?
    BUELLER??

  219. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #71 TT
    As many of the comments point out, half that target audience can’t read, so how are they going to consume comic books?

  220. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #71 TT
    As many of the comments point out, half that target audience can’t read, so how are they going to consume comic books?

  221. Katfish Avatar

    Wagonburner, do you think Obama can win Texas?

    Can win Texas what? 😉

  222. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Wagonburner, do you think Obama can win Texas?

    Can win Texas what? 😉

  223. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I picked up oldest Son from the airport today. His grandparents wanted to keep him (awwwww) but he really missed his home (awwww). He had lots of fun with Grandma and Grandpa. They went shooting, cave exploring, and laughed when they heard the line in Captain America of something like, “no Captain America, you’re going to Alamogordo”, because that’s the town where they all saw the movie. I just sent both my boys to time out because Youngest Son kept hitting Oldest Son’s friend and oldest Son smacked Youngest Son in the eye with a large bouncy ball. Things are definitely back to normal here.

    On a more serious note, oldest son’s grandpa couldn’t participate in some activites because he’s been having recent heart and breathing problems. Mother-In-Law says his complexion has turned pail. He needs to be on oxygen at night. It almost sounds like he needs a pace maker as well. I hope and pray he’ll turn out OK. We like having him around.

  224. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I picked up oldest Son from the airport today. His grandparents wanted to keep him (awwwww) but he really missed his home (awwww). He had lots of fun with Grandma and Grandpa. They went shooting, cave exploring, and laughed when they heard the line in Captain America of something like, “no Captain America, you’re going to Alamogordo”, because that’s the town where they all saw the movie. I just sent both my boys to time out because Youngest Son kept hitting Oldest Son’s friend and oldest Son smacked Youngest Son in the eye with a large bouncy ball. Things are definitely back to normal here.
    On a more serious note, oldest son’s grandpa couldn’t participate in some activites because he’s been having recent heart and breathing problems. Mother-In-Law says his complexion has turned pail. He needs to be on oxygen at night. It almost sounds like he needs a pace maker as well. I hope and pray he’ll turn out OK. We like having him around.

  225. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #114 katfish
    Try to keep up. 😉

  226. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Can win Texas what? 😉

    LOL. A better conservative in the US Senate would be nice. Come to think of it, Obama could do just that for us. 😉

  227. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Can win Texas what? 😉

    LOL. A better conservative in the US Senate would be nice. Come to think of it, Obama could do just that for us. 😉

  228. Katfish Avatar

    #113 mh42
    Ate by shark.

    Unfortunate accident with an “intimate” appliance.

    Ate by hyenas.

    Went off to join the French Foreign Legion.

    Went gay.

    Arrested for hanging out at Chuck E. Cheese.

  229. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #113 mh42
    Ate by shark.
    Unfortunate accident with an “intimate” appliance.
    Ate by hyenas.
    Went off to join the French Foreign Legion.
    Went gay.
    Arrested for hanging out at Chuck E. Cheese.

  230. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #114 Kat
    LSM coverup?

  231. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #114 Kat
    LSM coverup?

  232. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Inhibit auto-correct?
    He//, I want it to die!!!!!!!

  233. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Inhibit auto-correct?
    He//, I want it to die!!!!!!!

  234. Katfish Avatar

    #121 mh42
    Nobody noticed.

    Until beer distribution licenses expired. (really)

  235. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #121 mh42
    Nobody noticed.
    Until beer distribution licenses expired. (really)

  236. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Oh, and I did remember hearing about Minnesota, but like someone said, it was very low key.

  237. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Oh, and I did remember hearing about Minnesota, but like someone said, it was very low key.

  238. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #118 – no YOU try to keep up – I was typing in general terms – did I type a name?

  239. Katfish Avatar

    #118 – no YOU try to keep up – I was typing in general terms – did I type a name?

  240. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #121 – BbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbB I N G O!!!!!!

    *check yer cards folks – the Lady has a BINGO*

  241. Katfish Avatar

    #121 – BbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbB I N G O!!!!!!
    *check yer cards folks – the Lady has a BINGO*

  242. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    the Lady has a BINGO*

    Man, I never win in BINGO.

  243. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    the Lady has a BINGO*

    Man, I never win in BINGO.

  244. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Looks like all the credit ratings are saying US at high risk of being reduced from AAA.

    U.S. Faces First Downgrade on Debt, Slowdown: Moody’s

  245. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Looks like all the credit ratings are saying US at high risk of being reduced from AAA.
    U.S. Faces First Downgrade on Debt, Slowdown: Moody’s

  246. Dooood Avatar

    The federal government is now trying to classify all rural farm and ranch vehicles and trailers as commercial requiring drivers to have the same licensing, compliance and insurance as full-time 18 wheeler operators.

    “It’s a huge deal for us,” said John Youngberg of the Montana Farm Bureau. After years of allowing state governments to waive commercial driver’s license requirements for farmers hauling crops or driving farm equipment on public roads, the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration is poised to do away with the exceptions.

    Regulators are suggesting that all wheat shipments be considered interstate, even when farmers making short hauls to local grain elevators aren’t crossing state lines. The change would make commercial driver’s licenses — and all the log books and medical requirements that go with them — a necessity for farmers. Some might not qualify.

    The licenses would also be required of farmers driving farm equipment down public roads. Farmers hauling grain for a neighbor or landlord would be considered commercial drivers hauling for someone else.

    Ranchers hauling livestock in trailers as small as 16 feet would also be subject to the new rules.

    http://mfbf.org/ag-newswire/2011/07/proposed-road-rules-for-farmers-anger-some/

  247. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    The federal government is now trying to classify all rural farm and ranch vehicles and trailers as commercial requiring drivers to have the same licensing, compliance and insurance as full-time 18 wheeler operators.

    “It’s a huge deal for us,” said John Youngberg of the Montana Farm Bureau. After years of allowing state governments to waive commercial driver’s license requirements for farmers hauling crops or driving farm equipment on public roads, the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration is poised to do away with the exceptions.
    Regulators are suggesting that all wheat shipments be considered interstate, even when farmers making short hauls to local grain elevators aren’t crossing state lines. The change would make commercial driver’s licenses — and all the log books and medical requirements that go with them — a necessity for farmers. Some might not qualify.
    The licenses would also be required of farmers driving farm equipment down public roads. Farmers hauling grain for a neighbor or landlord would be considered commercial drivers hauling for someone else.
    Ranchers hauling livestock in trailers as small as 16 feet would also be subject to the new rules.

    http://mfbf.org/ag-newswire/2011/07/proposed-road-rules-for-farmers-anger-some/

  248. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Wu Still Hasn’t Resigned

    Why should he? He only had sexual relations with a minor.

    /Major sarc off

  249. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Wu Still Hasn’t Resigned
    Why should he? He only had sexual relations with a minor.
    /Major sarc off

  250. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    And now for something painfully funny.

    Orrin Hatch: I’m a tea party person

  251. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    And now for something painfully funny.
    Orrin Hatch: I’m a tea party person

  252. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #130 Darren
    Wu’s constituents should be insisting he resign now.

  253. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #130 Darren
    Wu’s constituents should be insisting he resign now.

  254. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    OK, FWIW; Dave is not keeping up, but I was scrolling through and I think Shannon sums it up for me and ANY OTHER normal patriotic American;

    Wagonburner
    Most of those on Hammie’s couch are of the opinion that we have run out of time. That now is the time to suffer any consequences to stop the government dead in it’s tracks and shut down all non-essential government operations. Period. They no longer believe anything the government or any other entity says about the ramifications of such action and even if the worst case scenarios actually happen, they don’t care. NOW is the time, and their solution is the only solution.
    I understand their position completely and though I disagree with them, I know there is no point in arguing with them. They have made up their minds.
    Their position is not ludicrous.

    THIS WAS OUR CHANCE!!! We have lost it now and maybe forever. The SO-CALLED conservatives own the HOUSE! Remember that place were all of the money that the Gubment confiscates from poor hard working peasants like you and I, DECIDE where it’s spent?!?! JUST SAY NO!!!! Put the DAYAAM ball back in their court, sure the Lame Stream Media will blame them, so what else is new? Sadly, I think that the RINOS just gave Osama his second term! If so, it’s OVER!!!! You can catch me @ the Old Home Place in Alabama, growing/raising my own food for as long as I can defend the homefront.
    Kicks the Soap Box aside. 🙁

  255. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    OK, FWIW; Dave is not keeping up, but I was scrolling through and I think Shannon sums it up for me and ANY OTHER normal patriotic American;

    Wagonburner
    Most of those on Hammie’s couch are of the opinion that we have run out of time. That now is the time to suffer any consequences to stop the government dead in it’s tracks and shut down all non-essential government operations. Period. They no longer believe anything the government or any other entity says about the ramifications of such action and even if the worst case scenarios actually happen, they don’t care. NOW is the time, and their solution is the only solution.
    I understand their position completely and though I disagree with them, I know there is no point in arguing with them. They have made up their minds.
    Their position is not ludicrous.

    THIS WAS OUR CHANCE!!! We have lost it now and maybe forever. The SO-CALLED conservatives own the HOUSE! Remember that place were all of the money that the Gubment confiscates from poor hard working peasants like you and I, DECIDE where it’s spent?!?! JUST SAY NO!!!! Put the DAYAAM ball back in their court, sure the Lame Stream Media will blame them, so what else is new? Sadly, I think that the RINOS just gave Osama his second term! If so, it’s OVER!!!! You can catch me @ the Old Home Place in Alabama, growing/raising my own food for as long as I can defend the homefront.
    Kicks the Soap Box aside. 🙁

  256. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #129 Texpat
    From a comment in a link off your link:

    I think you guys are getting too hung up in the detail of “hauling wheat” and the commerce clause. The new rule is targeted at hauling loads of any type. What type of vehicles are used to haul trailers of all types? Why that would be the heavy duty series of very popular pick up trucks that are considered “nasty gas guzzlers”. Therefore, if you’re not allowed to haul a heavy load, you won’t need a heavy duty truck and then you too can drive a Prius. If you can’t take your horse to the vet – well, PETA didn’t think you needed to own a horse anyway.

    http://legalinsurrection.com/2011/08/economic-destruction-by-commerce-clause-farm-equipment-edition/

  257. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #129 Texpat
    From a comment in a link off your link:

    I think you guys are getting too hung up in the detail of “hauling wheat” and the commerce clause. The new rule is targeted at hauling loads of any type. What type of vehicles are used to haul trailers of all types? Why that would be the heavy duty series of very popular pick up trucks that are considered “nasty gas guzzlers”. Therefore, if you’re not allowed to haul a heavy load, you won’t need a heavy duty truck and then you too can drive a Prius. If you can’t take your horse to the vet – well, PETA didn’t think you needed to own a horse anyway.

    http://legalinsurrection.com/2011/08/economic-destruction-by-commerce-clause-farm-equipment-edition/

  258. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I’m pretty sure Joe Straus is not holding a gun to Kevin Brady’s head, making him vote a certain way.

    Maroon. Joe Straus causes cancer.

  259. Hamous Avatar

    I’m pretty sure Joe Straus is not holding a gun to Kevin Brady’s head, making him vote a certain way.

    Maroon. Joe Straus causes cancer.

  260. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Joe Straus hates puppies.

  261. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Joe Straus hates puppies.

  262. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Has he no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Has he left no sense of decency? Joe Straus kilt mah blog.

  263. Hamous Avatar

    Has he no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Has he left no sense of decency? Joe Straus kilt mah blog.

  264. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    As soon as Sarge says HOW we can get rid of Joe Straus, I am willing to do my part.

    And not just becuz he kilt yore blog, Hammy. 🙂

  265. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    As soon as Sarge says HOW we can get rid of Joe Straus, I am willing to do my part.
    And not just becuz he kilt yore blog, Hammy. 🙂

  266. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Sarge has a gun with two bullets and he’s in a room with Hitler, Mussolini and Joe Straus, who does he shoot? Joe Straus twice, just to make sure.

  267. Hamous Avatar

    Sarge has a gun with two bullets and he’s in a room with Hitler, Mussolini and Joe Straus, who does he shoot? Joe Straus twice, just to make sure.

  268. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    As soon as Sarge says HOW we can get rid of Joe Straus, I am willing to do my part.

    To start, move to San Antonio.

  269. Hamous Avatar

    As soon as Sarge says HOW we can get rid of Joe Straus, I am willing to do my part.

    To start, move to San Antonio.

  270. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    As soon as Sarge says HOW we can get rid of Joe Straus, I am willing to do my part.

    Donate to his primary opponent. If he wins his primary, donate to his Democrat opponent. Repost everything you see about him on Facebook (there’s a lot, and I can direct you to them if you wish). Don’t sit back and let people buffalo you into backing off. Find news stories about him and post in the comments section. Donate to Freedom Works and Empower Texans. If your Lege member voted for him to be speaker, let him know that will affect your vote both in the primary and the general election. Show up where your Lege member shows up and ask to see his Pledge Card. If he doesn’t have it, ask him who does. If he’s given it to Joe Straus, ask him why he didn’t ask the people in his district who he should vote for before he did it.

    Scare the bejabbers out of the Texas Republican Party.

    We can’t take them all down, but we can all take a big one down.

    Dump. Joe. Straus.

  271. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    As soon as Sarge says HOW we can get rid of Joe Straus, I am willing to do my part.

    Donate to his primary opponent. If he wins his primary, donate to his Democrat opponent. Repost everything you see about him on Facebook (there’s a lot, and I can direct you to them if you wish). Don’t sit back and let people buffalo you into backing off. Find news stories about him and post in the comments section. Donate to Freedom Works and Empower Texans. If your Lege member voted for him to be speaker, let him know that will affect your vote both in the primary and the general election. Show up where your Lege member shows up and ask to see his Pledge Card. If he doesn’t have it, ask him who does. If he’s given it to Joe Straus, ask him why he didn’t ask the people in his district who he should vote for before he did it.
    Scare the bejabbers out of the Texas Republican Party.
    We can’t take them all down, but we can all take a big one down.
    Dump. Joe. Straus.

  272. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    The One Man Who Can Save America sez the debt limit deal is “disturbing”.

  273. Dooood Avatar

    #135 Hamous

    Sarge takes his marching orders from the grim, bleak, pinch-faced harridans of the North Texas Tea Party who, in turn, take theirs from Richard Ford and Michael Quinn Sullivan. You gotta find somebody to tell you what to think when you can’t do it for yourself.

  274. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #135 Hamous
    Sarge takes his marching orders from the grim, bleak, pinch-faced harridans of the North Texas Tea Party who, in turn, take theirs from Richard Ford and Michael Quinn Sullivan. You gotta find somebody to tell you what to think when you can’t do it for yourself.

  275. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #141 Sarge

    I can direct you to them if you wish

    Yes. Get my email address from FB and send Straus tips to me that way. That should be sufficiently Back Channel to keep us out of trouble Couch-wise.

  276. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #141 Sarge

    I can direct you to them if you wish

    Yes. Get my email address from FB and send Straus tips to me that way. That should be sufficiently Back Channel to keep us out of trouble Couch-wise.

  277. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    #135 Hamous

    Sarge takes his marching orders from the grim, bleak, pinch-faced harridans of the North Texas Tea Party who, in turn, take theirs from Richard Ford and Michael Quinn Sullivan. You gotta find somebody to tell you what to think when you can’t do it for yourself.

    Nope.

    I just noticed that the promises have never been kept.

    We were promised a very great deal about Joe Straus. Its not that I’m taking marching orders from anybody, I just stopped listening to those who take their marching orders from the Republican Party. Once I got that noise out of my environment, I started noticing a lot of other voices who made a good deal more sense.

  278. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    #135 Hamous
    Sarge takes his marching orders from the grim, bleak, pinch-faced harridans of the North Texas Tea Party who, in turn, take theirs from Richard Ford and Michael Quinn Sullivan. You gotta find somebody to tell you what to think when you can’t do it for yourself.

    Nope.
    I just noticed that the promises have never been kept.
    We were promised a very great deal about Joe Straus. Its not that I’m taking marching orders from anybody, I just stopped listening to those who take their marching orders from the Republican Party. Once I got that noise out of my environment, I started noticing a lot of other voices who made a good deal more sense.

  279. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    I have not liked anything I have ever heard or read about Joe Straus. But I don’t have time — or is it energy? – right now to research him. I will gladly take suggestions from Sarge on this matter.

  280. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    I have not liked anything I have ever heard or read about Joe Straus. But I don’t have time — or is it energy? – right now to research him. I will gladly take suggestions from Sarge on this matter.

  281. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I will gladly take suggestions from Sarge on this matter.

    I can introduce you to some nice home making harridans who got fed the frik up with the promises of the Republican Party of Texas if you’d like.

  282. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I will gladly take suggestions from Sarge on this matter.

    I can introduce you to some nice home making harridans who got fed the frik up with the promises of the Republican Party of Texas if you’d like.

  283. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Yes. Get my email address from FB and send Straus tips to me that way.

    I’ll message you on Facebook.

  284. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Yes. Get my email address from FB and send Straus tips to me that way.

    I’ll message you on Facebook.

  285. Dooood Avatar

    Meet Lt. William Treadway, “The Texan Who Would Be King”.

    “I hear pretty abhorrent tales about how the Pashtun Taliban sympathizers treat their children as well. For instance, a few kilometers north of us sits another COP where an injured child was dropped off at the front gate by his father, who then left. The young man presented with a skull fracture and exposed brain matter. He was still conscious and able to speak to an interpreter, but was fading fast. The terp asked him what happened. The boy said that his father had ordered him to go out to the road, count American convoys and mark the times they came past. The boy refused, and his father took to beating the child in the head with a hammer. After the bludgeoning, the father put the kid on his motorcycle, drove him to the COP that he was gathering intelligence against and left him there. The kid died before the medevac bird touched down.”

    Lieutenant Treadway’s blog is here.

    via Michael Yon and Instapundit.

  286. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    Meet Lt. William Treadway, “The Texan Who Would Be King”.

    “I hear pretty abhorrent tales about how the Pashtun Taliban sympathizers treat their children as well. For instance, a few kilometers north of us sits another COP where an injured child was dropped off at the front gate by his father, who then left. The young man presented with a skull fracture and exposed brain matter. He was still conscious and able to speak to an interpreter, but was fading fast. The terp asked him what happened. The boy said that his father had ordered him to go out to the road, count American convoys and mark the times they came past. The boy refused, and his father took to beating the child in the head with a hammer. After the bludgeoning, the father put the kid on his motorcycle, drove him to the COP that he was gathering intelligence against and left him there. The kid died before the medevac bird touched down.”

    Lieutenant Treadway’s blog is here.
    via Michael Yon and Instapundit.

  287. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Joe Straus hates puppies.

    Our puppy has gotten into the habbit of running out the door whenever it gets opened. She now runs across the street and ignores calls to return. Real thoughts of hurting her when she does this have crossed my mind though she does ultimately come back and she is praised for that when she does. If she were one of our labs, the neighbors might get scared when she runs up to them and barks.

  288. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Joe Straus hates puppies.

    Our puppy has gotten into the habbit of running out the door whenever it gets opened. She now runs across the street and ignores calls to return. Real thoughts of hurting her when she does this have crossed my mind though she does ultimately come back and she is praised for that when she does. If she were one of our labs, the neighbors might get scared when she runs up to them and barks.

  289. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Wu’s constituents should be insisting he resign now.

    They would be if they were Republican.

  290. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Wu’s constituents should be insisting he resign now.

    They would be if they were Republican.

  291. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    If he wins his primary, donate to his Democrat opponent.

    Say what !?!?!?

    Donate to Freedom Works and Empower Texans.

    I don’t know anything about Empower Texans but Freedom Works is a good group to donate to. But it still boils down to whether or not you agree with their agenda in Texas.

  292. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    If he wins his primary, donate to his Democrat opponent.

    Say what !?!?!?

    Donate to Freedom Works and Empower Texans.

    I don’t know anything about Empower Texans but Freedom Works is a good group to donate to. But it still boils down to whether or not you agree with their agenda in Texas.

  293. Katfish Avatar

    I started noticing a lot of other voices who made a good deal more sense.

    That explains volumes.

  294. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I started noticing a lot of other voices who made a good deal more sense.

    That explains volumes.

  295. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Texpat #149;

    I’m very reserved in saying this but some fathers are going to burn in Hell.

  296. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Texpat #149;
    I’m very reserved in saying this but some fathers are going to burn in Hell.

  297. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Everyone knew a debt ceiling agreement was going to happen, so spare the crisis bull. It was a matter of holding all the cards (the checkbook) and how far to the edge the GOP leadership was willing to go. They never even eyed the cliff’s edge much less got near it. This was all stage, this deal was done when Boner feigned walking out on Obama.

  298. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Everyone knew a debt ceiling agreement was going to happen, so spare the crisis bull. It was a matter of holding all the cards (the checkbook) and how far to the edge the GOP leadership was willing to go. They never even eyed the cliff’s edge much less got near it. This was all stage, this deal was done when Boner feigned walking out on Obama.

  299. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    I’ve been opposed to term limits, but there’s a stark contrast in watching these negotiations with a president going for one more election and a speaker who wants to be speaker for decades.

  300. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    I’ve been opposed to term limits, but there’s a stark contrast in watching these negotiations with a president going for one more election and a speaker who wants to be speaker for decades.

  301. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    If he wins his primary, donate to his Democrat opponent.

    Say what !?!?!?

    A first year Democrat member of the Texas Lege can do far less damage to the Conservative agenda than Joe Straus as Speaker has already done.

  302. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    If he wins his primary, donate to his Democrat opponent.

    Say what !?!?!?

    A first year Democrat member of the Texas Lege can do far less damage to the Conservative agenda than Joe Straus as Speaker has already done.

  303. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    But I do like puppys and walks in the rain.

  304. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    But I do like puppys and walks in the rain.

  305. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    That explains volumes.

    Thought you’d get a chuckle.

  306. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    That explains volumes.

    Thought you’d get a chuckle.

  307. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    A first year Democrat member of the Texas Lege can do far less damage to the Conservative agenda than Joe Straus as Speaker has already done.

    And lets not forget that the Redistricting Bill HJoe Straus sheparded through the Lege results in fewer Republicans, especially Conservative ones.

    We’d just be giving him one more Democrat than he wanted.

  308. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    A first year Democrat member of the Texas Lege can do far less damage to the Conservative agenda than Joe Straus as Speaker has already done.

    And lets not forget that the Redistricting Bill HJoe Straus sheparded through the Lege results in fewer Republicans, especially Conservative ones.
    We’d just be giving him one more Democrat than he wanted.

  309. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I don’t know anything about Empower Texans but Freedom Works is a good group to donate to. But it still boils down to whether or not you agree with their agenda in Texas.

    Here ya go.

  310. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I don’t know anything about Empower Texans but Freedom Works is a good group to donate to. But it still boils down to whether or not you agree with their agenda in Texas.

    Here ya go.

  311. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    But I do like puppys and walks in the rain.

    BUTT; Do you like “Piña Colada’s” 😀

  312. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    But I do like puppys and walks in the rain.

    BUTT; Do you like “Piña Colada’s” 😀

  313. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    BUTT; Do you like “Piña Colada’s”

    Not much into Alabama fare. 😛

  314. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    BUTT; Do you like “Piña Colada’s”

    Not much into Alabama fare. 😛

  315. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Sarge;

    Freedom Works helped get us Mike Lee. What has Empower Texans accomplished?

  316. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Sarge;
    Freedom Works helped get us Mike Lee. What has Empower Texans accomplished?

  317. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Oh, and here’s Freedomworks position on Joe Straus during the Speakers Race at the beginning of the session:

    FreedomWorks, chaired by former House Majority Leader Dick Armey of Texas, continues to make the case for state House Republicans to dump incumbent Speaker Joe Straus, R- San Antonio.

    The group continues to communicate with its 43,000 Texas members via e-mail, and Armey has also called GOP House members.

    “This is a real opportunity for us and for the Tea Party movement and conservatives given this mandate,” says FreedomWorks spokesman Brendan Steinhauser. The Washington, D.C. based group promotes limited government, less taxes and more freedom.

  318. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Oh, and here’s Freedomworks position on Joe Straus during the Speakers Race at the beginning of the session:

    FreedomWorks, chaired by former House Majority Leader Dick Armey of Texas, continues to make the case for state House Republicans to dump incumbent Speaker Joe Straus, R- San Antonio.
    The group continues to communicate with its 43,000 Texas members via e-mail, and Armey has also called GOP House members.
    “This is a real opportunity for us and for the Tea Party movement and conservatives given this mandate,” says FreedomWorks spokesman Brendan Steinhauser. The Washington, D.C. based group promotes limited government, less taxes and more freedom.

  319. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    But hey;

    Don’t listen to Freedomworks.

    They’re just crazy—-voices in their heads most likely.

    And them that ain’t crazy are racists.

    And them that an’t crazy or racist are just stupid.

    Bunch of unreasonalbe terrorists is what they are.

  320. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    But hey;
    Don’t listen to Freedomworks.
    They’re just crazy—-voices in their heads most likely.
    And them that ain’t crazy are racists.
    And them that an’t crazy or racist are just stupid.
    Bunch of unreasonalbe terrorists is what they are.

  321. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    A bold move for a freshman but, like DeMint, he’s perfectly positioned to make it. He comes from the deepest of deep red states and there’s no room whatsoever to run to his right. He’ll hold his seat for 50 years if he wants to, so any establishment Republicans who are bitter about this will have to content themselves with cold shoulders. They’ll never bounce him in a primary in Utah.

    Hehehehe, ain’t that the truth? This is, of course, talking about my man, Mike Lee. Lee wants to form a new PAC and perhaps use it to primary Republican incumbants. Lee says:

    “The purpose of it is to help find and support candidates for federal office who share my view that federal government has become too big and too expensive and believe in the need to restore what I refer to as constitutional-limited government,” Lee told The Hill…

    “It would be hypocritical of me if I were to say never, ever under any circumstances would I try to support someone trying to come here the same way I came here,” Lee said.

    He added, however, he does not have his mind set on supporting any particular challenger against a particular incumbent right now.

    Question: Would he consider supporting Jason Chaffetz’s primary challenge to Orrin Hatch? The idea of an incumbent senator campaigning against his colleague from the same party and the same state is almost unthinkable, but Lee and Chaffetz are both young tea-party favorites from Utah and Lee famously won his seat by ousting a longtime incumbent who was considered too centrist in the primary. If he backed Chaffetz, it’d be a signal to those same primary voters that it’s time for another old blood/new blood transfusion. It’d also give Utah, hands down, the most conservative state caucus in the U.S. Senate.

    Yup, yup, yup. Utah’s the place to do it too.

    but Hatch also has support among influential Republicans that Bob Bennett lacked. Just tonight, in fact, his campaign sent out an e-mail announcing that Sean Hannity has endorsed him. And since this next term will probably be Hatch’s last (he’s 77 now) and Chaffetz is in his mid-40s, Lee may figure that there’s no sense provoking an ugly fight now when Chaffetz is in line for the seat later.

    But if I read Lee correctly, I’d say Lee’d have no problem endorsing Chaffetz over Hatch. Orin Hatch is owed nothing by Republicans.

    Mike Lee to form new PAC — and may use it to primary GOP incumbents

  322. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    A bold move for a freshman but, like DeMint, he’s perfectly positioned to make it. He comes from the deepest of deep red states and there’s no room whatsoever to run to his right. He’ll hold his seat for 50 years if he wants to, so any establishment Republicans who are bitter about this will have to content themselves with cold shoulders. They’ll never bounce him in a primary in Utah.

    Hehehehe, ain’t that the truth? This is, of course, talking about my man, Mike Lee. Lee wants to form a new PAC and perhaps use it to primary Republican incumbants. Lee says:

    “The purpose of it is to help find and support candidates for federal office who share my view that federal government has become too big and too expensive and believe in the need to restore what I refer to as constitutional-limited government,” Lee told The Hill…
    “It would be hypocritical of me if I were to say never, ever under any circumstances would I try to support someone trying to come here the same way I came here,” Lee said.
    He added, however, he does not have his mind set on supporting any particular challenger against a particular incumbent right now.

    Question: Would he consider supporting Jason Chaffetz’s primary challenge to Orrin Hatch? The idea of an incumbent senator campaigning against his colleague from the same party and the same state is almost unthinkable, but Lee and Chaffetz are both young tea-party favorites from Utah and Lee famously won his seat by ousting a longtime incumbent who was considered too centrist in the primary. If he backed Chaffetz, it’d be a signal to those same primary voters that it’s time for another old blood/new blood transfusion. It’d also give Utah, hands down, the most conservative state caucus in the U.S. Senate.

    Yup, yup, yup. Utah’s the place to do it too.

    but Hatch also has support among influential Republicans that Bob Bennett lacked. Just tonight, in fact, his campaign sent out an e-mail announcing that Sean Hannity has endorsed him. And since this next term will probably be Hatch’s last (he’s 77 now) and Chaffetz is in his mid-40s, Lee may figure that there’s no sense provoking an ugly fight now when Chaffetz is in line for the seat later.

    But if I read Lee correctly, I’d say Lee’d have no problem endorsing Chaffetz over Hatch. Orin Hatch is owed nothing by Republicans.
    Mike Lee to form new PAC — and may use it to primary GOP incumbents

  323. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Man, did THAT bring back memories, back in another life, BC (before children) Piña Colada’s were very popular and we used to have a lot of parties with our friends, usually at my house because I had the loft with the pool table (still do). Anywho, I’d get real cream of coconut and pineapple juice (not the cheap mix crap) and put the Bacardi Rum with the blender carafe in the freezer for a while and then shave the ice in the blender, add the coconut, pineapple juice and rum. Yum Yum. It would make two of the tall Commodore Crowley glasses with just enough left over for the bar-tender. 😀

  324. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Man, did THAT bring back memories, back in another life, BC (before children) Piña Colada’s were very popular and we used to have a lot of parties with our friends, usually at my house because I had the loft with the pool table (still do). Anywho, I’d get real cream of coconut and pineapple juice (not the cheap mix crap) and put the Bacardi Rum with the blender carafe in the freezer for a while and then shave the ice in the blender, add the coconut, pineapple juice and rum. Yum Yum. It would make two of the tall Commodore Crowley glasses with just enough left over for the bar-tender. 😀

  325. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Not much into Alabama Florida fare.

    Insert DREADED Acronym here. 😉

  326. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Not much into Alabama Florida fare.

    Insert DREADED Acronym here. 😉

  327. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Sarge;

    I like Freedomworks and by all means, support them in teir efforts to dump Joe Straus. But i guarantee you that their position has nothing to do with the fact that he’s Jewish. And I highly doubt their talking points against Straus do not reach the same pont as the War on Drugs does for a libertarian. That somehow every political evil in the country centers around Straus.

    Now, what has Empower Texans accomplished? I’m just trying to get a feel for them.

  328. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Sarge;
    I like Freedomworks and by all means, support them in teir efforts to dump Joe Straus. But i guarantee you that their position has nothing to do with the fact that he’s Jewish. And I highly doubt their talking points against Straus do not reach the same pont as the War on Drugs does for a libertarian. That somehow every political evil in the country centers around Straus.
    Now, what has Empower Texans accomplished? I’m just trying to get a feel for them.

  329. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    BC (before children)

    Heh. 🙂

  330. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    BC (before children)

    Heh. 🙂

  331. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Freedom Works helped get us Mike Lee. What has Empower Texans accomplished?

    Raising awareness about Establishment RINOs like Joe Straus.

    If you want to keep listening to those that have been making promises and breaking them, you don’t hsave to listen to me or them.

    But, you COULD help us get a Senator like Mike Lee for Texas. to do that, you have to stop listening to THOSE folks and chacking out what the others have to say. The Republican Eastablishment is stron in Texas. Its not every Speaker of a State Senate who has a former White House advisor running their media campaign—;et alone one as close to the President as Karen Hughes was.

    But then, the Bush Republicans did such a good frikkin job——-

  332. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Freedom Works helped get us Mike Lee. What has Empower Texans accomplished?

    Raising awareness about Establishment RINOs like Joe Straus.
    If you want to keep listening to those that have been making promises and breaking them, you don’t hsave to listen to me or them.
    But, you COULD help us get a Senator like Mike Lee for Texas. to do that, you have to stop listening to THOSE folks and chacking out what the others have to say. The Republican Eastablishment is stron in Texas. Its not every Speaker of a State Senate who has a former White House advisor running their media campaign—;et alone one as close to the President as Karen Hughes was.
    But then, the Bush Republicans did such a good frikkin job——-

  333. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I like Freedomworks and by all means, support them in teir efforts to dump Joe Straus. But i guarantee you that their position has nothing to do with the fact that he’s Jewish. And I highly doubt their talking points against Straus do not reach the same pont as the War on Drugs does for a libertarian. That somehow every political evil in the country centers around Straus.

    NOBODY’s position on Straus had anything to do with his Religion. But there WERE some in the Straus media machine that leaned heavily on the “racist” part of the “Racist, Crasy, or Stupid” tactic.

  334. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I like Freedomworks and by all means, support them in teir efforts to dump Joe Straus. But i guarantee you that their position has nothing to do with the fact that he’s Jewish. And I highly doubt their talking points against Straus do not reach the same pont as the War on Drugs does for a libertarian. That somehow every political evil in the country centers around Straus.

    NOBODY’s position on Straus had anything to do with his Religion. But there WERE some in the Straus media machine that leaned heavily on the “racist” part of the “Racist, Crasy, or Stupid” tactic.

  335. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Now take a look at THIS picture. Did Secret Service “[act] stupidly”?

  336. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Now take a look at THIS picture. Did Secret Service “[act] stupidly”?

  337. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    As a side-bar, when Daughter worked as a Bar-Keep @ Chedders in College Station, she always worked on “Game Day”, because nobody wanted to work that day and she made heap$ of money. She told me that she made frozen margarita’s in a 30 gal trash can, mixed with a canoe paddle. They kept it a walk in cooler until they put it in the slurpee machine. Yes, I know that there is NO SUCH thang as a frozen margarita, it would be a margarita flavored slurpee.

  338. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    As a side-bar, when Daughter worked as a Bar-Keep @ Chedders in College Station, she always worked on “Game Day”, because nobody wanted to work that day and she made heap$ of money. She told me that she made frozen margarita’s in a 30 gal trash can, mixed with a canoe paddle. They kept it a walk in cooler until they put it in the slurpee machine. Yes, I know that there is NO SUCH thang as a frozen margarita, it would be a margarita flavored slurpee.

  339. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    NOBODY’s position on Straus had anything to do with his Religion.

    Oh, I think they did and you yourself read about them.

    UPDATE: Change that to “I think some did…”

  340. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    NOBODY’s position on Straus had anything to do with his Religion.

    Oh, I think they did and you yourself read about them.
    UPDATE: Change that to “I think some did…”

  341. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    When emails first appeared calling for dumping current Speaker Joe Straus in favor of “Christian conservative” leadership, Straus’ more visible opponents initially dismissed accusations of anti-Jewish/pro-Christian bias. “I’ve never heard any one talk about Mr. Straus’ religion,” said Michael Quinn Sullivan, the head of Empower Texans and a vocal leader of the anti-Straus crowd. “There is no place in the speakership race for discussions of people’s religion or lack thereof.” Shortly afterwards, Straus’ opponents took a new approach, condemning the emails and distancing themselves from the statements. “There is absolutely no place for religious bigotry in the race for Texas Speaker, and I categorically condemn such action,” said state Rep. Ken Paxton, who’s challenging Straus for the position.

    It seemed like things had died down, until I obtained an email exchange Tuesday between two members of the State Republican Executive Committee—Rebecca Williamson and John Cook. After Williamson sent a fact sheet to SREC members defending Straus, Cook responded by dismissing her claims and saying that “We elected a house with Christian, conservative values. We now want a true Christian, conservative running it.” (You can see both emails here.) Since the SREC governs state Republican Party affairs, this marked the first time an elected party leader had semi-openly called for a “Christian conservative” Speaker.

    This actually reflects well for Empower Texans.

    SREC Member: “I got into politics to put Christian conservatives into office.”

    I doubt I would pass Cook’s religious purity test and be considered a “Christian” conservative.

  342. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    When emails first appeared calling for dumping current Speaker Joe Straus in favor of “Christian conservative” leadership, Straus’ more visible opponents initially dismissed accusations of anti-Jewish/pro-Christian bias. “I’ve never heard any one talk about Mr. Straus’ religion,” said Michael Quinn Sullivan, the head of Empower Texans and a vocal leader of the anti-Straus crowd. “There is no place in the speakership race for discussions of people’s religion or lack thereof.” Shortly afterwards, Straus’ opponents took a new approach, condemning the emails and distancing themselves from the statements. “There is absolutely no place for religious bigotry in the race for Texas Speaker, and I categorically condemn such action,” said state Rep. Ken Paxton, who’s challenging Straus for the position.
    It seemed like things had died down, until I obtained an email exchange Tuesday between two members of the State Republican Executive Committee—Rebecca Williamson and John Cook. After Williamson sent a fact sheet to SREC members defending Straus, Cook responded by dismissing her claims and saying that “We elected a house with Christian, conservative values. We now want a true Christian, conservative running it.” (You can see both emails here.) Since the SREC governs state Republican Party affairs, this marked the first time an elected party leader had semi-openly called for a “Christian conservative” Speaker.

    This actually reflects well for Empower Texans.
    SREC Member: “I got into politics to put Christian conservatives into office.”
    I doubt I would pass Cook’s religious purity test and be considered a “Christian” conservative.

  343. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Oh, I think they did and you yourself read about them.

    I read a lot about what some folks said was said.

    But when it all came down to the cuttin, it was one guy who said he thought it was his job to elect Conservative Christians. Hardly a movement, but its the kind of statement that politicians like to bow out of proportion to demonize their opponent when their record is what damns them.

  344. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Oh, I think they did and you yourself read about them.

    I read a lot about what some folks said was said.
    But when it all came down to the cuttin, it was one guy who said he thought it was his job to elect Conservative Christians. Hardly a movement, but its the kind of statement that politicians like to bow out of proportion to demonize their opponent when their record is what damns them.

  345. Katfish Avatar

    I know that there is NO SUCH thang as a frozen margarita, it would be a margarita flavored slurpee.

    Just like a good mint julep is a bourbon-spearmint slurpee.

    MMmmmmmmmmm…..

  346. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I know that there is NO SUCH thang as a frozen margarita, it would be a margarita flavored slurpee.

    Just like a good mint julep is a bourbon-spearmint slurpee.
    MMmmmmmmmmm…..

  347. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    The Texas Observer?

    Really?

    Why not the New York Times, MNBC, or Salon Magazine?

  348. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    The Texas Observer?
    Really?
    Why not the New York Times, MNBC, or Salon Magazine?

  349. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    it was his job to elect Conservative Christians

    He did so **as a Republican** and **as a conservative**.

  350. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    it was his job to elect Conservative Christians

    He did so **as a Republican** and **as a conservative**.

  351. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Why not the New York Times, MNBC, or Salon Magazine?

    I dunno. 😕 Cuz they no report on it?

  352. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Why not the New York Times, MNBC, or Salon Magazine?

    I dunno. 😕 Cuz they no report on it?

  353. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    So, what has Empower Texans accomplished, Sarge.

  354. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    So, what has Empower Texans accomplished, Sarge.

  355. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Just like a good mint julep is a bourbon-spearmint slurpee.

    MMmmmmmmmmm…..

    Alchie. 😉

  356. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Just like a good mint julep is a bourbon-spearmint slurpee.
    MMmmmmmmmmm…..

    Alchie. 😉

  357. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Say what !?!?!?

    Don’t worry, I won’t be donating to any Demoncrats, even green newbies.

  358. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Say what !?!?!?

    Don’t worry, I won’t be donating to any Demoncrats, even green newbies.

  359. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Just like a good mint julep is a bourbon-spearmint slurpee.

    MMmmmmmmmmm…..

    Whatever floats your boat, I’d say, I’ve never had a mint julep and didn’t know that it could/would be slurpeeized but hey whatever it takes. Remember “shaken,…not stirred” 😉

  360. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Just like a good mint julep is a bourbon-spearmint slurpee.
    MMmmmmmmmmm…..

    Whatever floats your boat, I’d say, I’ve never had a mint julep and didn’t know that it could/would be slurpeeized but hey whatever it takes. Remember “shaken,…not stirred” 😉

  361. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    He did so **as a Republican** and **as a conservative**.

    Paint with that brush all you want, but you’ll get ot all over Freedomworks and Empower Texans just as the Straus supporters did at the beginning of the session, and you’ve said that Empower Texans doesn’t deserve that.

    So, what has Empower Texans accomplished, Sarge.

    I told you.

    But a better question would be what has the Republican Party of Texas NOT accomplioshed that you wanted them to, and who stood in the way of that?

    Empower Texans isn’t elected to anything, but they are supporting candidates and policies that you agree with and they have more in common with your political goals than the Republican Party of Texas as it is currently led does.

  362. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    He did so **as a Republican** and **as a conservative**.

    Paint with that brush all you want, but you’ll get ot all over Freedomworks and Empower Texans just as the Straus supporters did at the beginning of the session, and you’ve said that Empower Texans doesn’t deserve that.

    So, what has Empower Texans accomplished, Sarge.

    I told you.
    But a better question would be what has the Republican Party of Texas NOT accomplioshed that you wanted them to, and who stood in the way of that?
    Empower Texans isn’t elected to anything, but they are supporting candidates and policies that you agree with and they have more in common with your political goals than the Republican Party of Texas as it is currently led does.

  363. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #163

    Not much into Alabama fare

    That 102 has stole Tim’s heart.

  364. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #163

    Not much into Alabama fare

    That 102 has stole Tim’s heart.

  365. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I told you.

    OK then. While I’ve no idea what they’ve accomplished I guess our conversation is now complete.

  366. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I told you.

    OK then. While I’ve no idea what they’ve accomplished I guess our conversation is now complete.

  367. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #168 Dave

    the tall Commodore Crowley glasses

    Didja serve ’em with the little pink umbrellas, Unca Dave?

  368. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #168 Dave

    the tall Commodore Crowley glasses

    Didja serve ’em with the little pink umbrellas, Unca Dave?

  369. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Super Dave;

    Remember “shaken,…not stirred”

    You sure you’re not a British spy?

  370. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Super Dave;

    Remember “shaken,…not stirred”

    You sure you’re not a British spy?

  371. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Don’t worry, I won’t be donating to any Demoncrats, even green newbies.

    Then hammer your Lege member. Empower Texans has a dookus on their site that will let you know who he is, how to contact him, and how they rated his performance in the 82nd Lege.

  372. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Don’t worry, I won’t be donating to any Demoncrats, even green newbies.

    Then hammer your Lege member. Empower Texans has a dookus on their site that will let you know who he is, how to contact him, and how they rated his performance in the 82nd Lege.

  373. Katfish Avatar

    Remember “shaken,…not stirred”

    That would be Martini Vulgaris (the real one made with gin and olives), not the Martini Artificialis, or vodka martini, which is basically strained vodka on the rocks.

  374. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Remember “shaken,…not stirred”

    That would be Martini Vulgaris (the real one made with gin and olives), not the Martini Artificialis, or vodka martini, which is basically strained vodka on the rocks.

  375. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Didja serve ‘em with the little pink umbrellas, Unca Dave?

    Nope, BUTT I usually served them with fresh pineapple slices! Ya see, in 1975 I took my bride to Hawaii for our honeymoon and EVERY dish (including breakfast) had fresh pineapple, and I kinda got hooked on it.
    FWIW; I had blisters inside my mouth when I finally got back to Saint Simons Island Ga. 😉

  376. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Didja serve ‘em with the little pink umbrellas, Unca Dave?

    Nope, BUTT I usually served them with fresh pineapple slices! Ya see, in 1975 I took my bride to Hawaii for our honeymoon and EVERY dish (including breakfast) had fresh pineapple, and I kinda got hooked on it.
    FWIW; I had blisters inside my mouth when I finally got back to Saint Simons Island Ga. 😉

  377. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    OK then. While I’ve no idea what they’ve accomplished I guess our conversation is now complete.

    How bout this then:

    They’ve accomplished the same kinds of things Freedomworks has, and done it in the same manner: through communication and networking, supporting candidates and policies, informing the public, and organizing grass roots support.

  378. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    OK then. While I’ve no idea what they’ve accomplished I guess our conversation is now complete.

    How bout this then:
    They’ve accomplished the same kinds of things Freedomworks has, and done it in the same manner: through communication and networking, supporting candidates and policies, informing the public, and organizing grass roots support.

  379. Katfish Avatar

    I had blisters inside my mouth when I finally got back to Saint Simons Island.

    tmi, dude

  380. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I had blisters inside my mouth when I finally got back to Saint Simons Island.

    tmi, dude

  381. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Okay, so Mitt Romney doesn’t always come out first or clearest when he opposes debt ceiling deals. But boy, does the Romney campaign know how to do web videos. Here’s their latest, welcoming Barack Obama back to Chicago for his 50th birthday, noting how economic conditions in the city have only deteriorated during his presidency.

    Romney: Obama Returns to Chicago, Where Unemployment’s Up 48%

  382. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Okay, so Mitt Romney doesn’t always come out first or clearest when he opposes debt ceiling deals. But boy, does the Romney campaign know how to do web videos. Here’s their latest, welcoming Barack Obama back to Chicago for his 50th birthday, noting how economic conditions in the city have only deteriorated during his presidency.

    Romney: Obama Returns to Chicago, Where Unemployment’s Up 48%

  383. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    What nonsense. No one gave or gives the slightest flip if Straus is Jewish.

  384. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    What nonsense. No one gave or gives the slightest flip if Straus is Jewish.

  385. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    This here’s a runaway blog tonight… !

  386. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    This here’s a runaway blog tonight… !

  387. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    A better link in case my original alters in the future.

    Romney: Obama Returns to Chicago, Where Unemployment’s Up 48%

  388. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    A better link in case my original alters in the future.
    Romney: Obama Returns to Chicago, Where Unemployment’s Up 48%

  389. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    No one gave or gives the slightest flip if Straus is Jewish.

    I certainly don’t care and I know Sarge doesn’t either. A big turn off, no?

  390. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    No one gave or gives the slightest flip if Straus is Jewish.

    I certainly don’t care and I know Sarge doesn’t either. A big turn off, no?

  391. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Me and Mrs.102
    We got a thing goin’on

  392. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Me and Mrs.102
    We got a thing goin’on

  393. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    You sure you’re not a British spy?

    Nope I just watched too many movies, I guess. James Bond movies were kinda corny but as a young lad Iiked the action and the futuristic gadgets that he had. My favorite is “Live & Let Die” because it has my second boat in it. FWIW; I’ve been airborne like the picture, just not as far or high. 😉

  394. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    You sure you’re not a British spy?

    Nope I just watched too many movies, I guess. James Bond movies were kinda corny but as a young lad Iiked the action and the futuristic gadgets that he had. My favorite is “Live & Let Die” because it has my second boat in it. FWIW; I’ve been airborne like the picture, just not as far or high. 😉

  395. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    tmi, dude

    Dang Dammit MAN get your mind outta’ the gutter! The strong acid in fresh pineapple will blister the crap out of your mouth………..Buy um books, send um to school and for what?!
    SIGH

  396. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    tmi, dude

    Dang Dammit MAN get your mind outta’ the gutter! The strong acid in fresh pineapple will blister the crap out of your mouth………..Buy um books, send um to school and for what?!
    SIGH

  397. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #192
    Where I live, I don’t have anyone representing me at any level of gubmint that will give a flip what I say — SJL and Sylvester Turner and that creepy city councilman Jarvis The Stud Johnson. Cornyn & Hutchinson reply politely but I’d like to see Corny replaced next opportunity.

  398. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #192
    Where I live, I don’t have anyone representing me at any level of gubmint that will give a flip what I say — SJL and Sylvester Turner and that creepy city councilman Jarvis The Stud Johnson. Cornyn & Hutchinson reply politely but I’d like to see Corny replaced next opportunity.

  399. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #206 mharper,……..I feel your pain. 😉

  400. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #206 mharper,……..I feel your pain. 😉

  401. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    No one gave or gives the slightest flip if Straus is Jewish.

    The people who tried to make those of us who were trying to change the Republican Party of Texas look bad sure wanted it to be an issue.

  402. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    No one gave or gives the slightest flip if Straus is Jewish.

    The people who tried to make those of us who were trying to change the Republican Party of Texas look bad sure wanted it to be an issue.

  403. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    #192
    Where I live, I don’t have anyone representing me at any level of gubmint that will give a flip what I say — SJL and Sylvester Turner and that creepy city councilman Jarvis The Stud Johnson. Cornyn & Hutchinson reply politely but I’d like to see Corny replaced next opportunity.

    Criminy.

    Move to Fort Bend County.

  404. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    #192
    Where I live, I don’t have anyone representing me at any level of gubmint that will give a flip what I say — SJL and Sylvester Turner and that creepy city councilman Jarvis The Stud Johnson. Cornyn & Hutchinson reply politely but I’d like to see Corny replaced next opportunity.

    Criminy.
    Move to Fort Bend County.

  405. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #194

    I had blisters inside my mouth

    And I bet not all of them were from the fresh pineapple. Not suggesting anything improper, just tonsil hockey. 🙂

    (Saw later that others had beat me to the improper suggestions…)

  406. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #194

    I had blisters inside my mouth

    And I bet not all of them were from the fresh pineapple. Not suggesting anything improper, just tonsil hockey. 🙂
    (Saw later that others had beat me to the improper suggestions…)

  407. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    mharper 😀

  408. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    mharper 😀

  409. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    What in the he!! am I doing up?…… Nytol
    It’s been real, it’s been fun, it’s just not been real fun. 😀

  410. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    What in the he!! am I doing up?…… Nytol
    It’s been real, it’s been fun, it’s just not been real fun. 😀

  411. Dooood Avatar

    #198 mharper42

    What nonsense. No one gave or gives the slightest flip if Straus is Jewish.

    Not true.

    Not true in the least.

    While the fact Straus is Jewish may not have been the driving motivation, that he is not a Christian, and an evangelical one at that, is and was a very decisive factor for those who oppose him.

    There were some for whom anti-Semitic sentiments were a definite consideration.

    The clearly stated objective of the anti-Straus cohort is make certain the entire legislature of Texas, Senate and House, is a pure evangelical Christian body politic.

    No Jews, no Catholics, no Mormons, no Muslims, no atheists, no agnostics….you know how that goes.

  412. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #198 mharper42

    What nonsense. No one gave or gives the slightest flip if Straus is Jewish.

    Not true.
    Not true in the least.
    While the fact Straus is Jewish may not have been the driving motivation, that he is not a Christian, and an evangelical one at that, is and was a very decisive factor for those who oppose him.
    There were some for whom anti-Semitic sentiments were a definite consideration.
    The clearly stated objective of the anti-Straus cohort is make certain the entire legislature of Texas, Senate and House, is a pure evangelical Christian body politic.
    No Jews, no Catholics, no Mormons, no Muslims, no atheists, no agnostics….you know how that goes.

  413. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    While the fact Straus is Jewish may not have been the driving motivation, that he is not a Christian, and an evangelical one at that, is and was a very decisive factor for those who oppose him.

    Utter crap. Shameless perfidy.

    Show me one other example beyond that Darren provided.

    The opposition to Straus was based mainly on his record in the 81st Lege—-one he repeated in the 82nd.

  414. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    While the fact Straus is Jewish may not have been the driving motivation, that he is not a Christian, and an evangelical one at that, is and was a very decisive factor for those who oppose him.

    Utter crap. Shameless perfidy.
    Show me one other example beyond that Darren provided.
    The opposition to Straus was based mainly on his record in the 81st Lege—-one he repeated in the 82nd.

  415. phil Avatar
    phil

    The Weather Channel really bites since the Nutjobs Broadcasting Company took them over.–Just another propaganda tool for Obumma and his Lenincrats

  416. phil Avatar
    phil

    The Weather Channel really bites since the Nutjobs Broadcasting Company took them over.–Just another propaganda tool for Obumma and his Lenincrats

  417. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Who should folks beleive?

    The ones who told us Joe Straus was a conservative who would advance a conservative agenda?

    How’s that Sanctuary City bill coming along?

  418. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Who should folks beleive?
    The ones who told us Joe Straus was a conservative who would advance a conservative agenda?
    How’s that Sanctuary City bill coming along?

  419. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Lets talk about Straus “conservative” record in his two sessions as Speaker.

    What? all we want to talk about is how bad the people who oppose him are?

    Must be because the conversation about Straus’ conservative record is a mighty short one.

  420. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Lets talk about Straus “conservative” record in his two sessions as Speaker.
    What? all we want to talk about is how bad the people who oppose him are?
    Must be because the conversation about Straus’ conservative record is a mighty short one.

  421. Dooood Avatar

    #214 Sarge

    The public record is out there abundantly for all to see if they are seriously interested in researching the truth.

    The last thing I am going to do is indulge your obsessive, compulsive disorder for endless, pointless argumentation.

    Good night.

  422. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #214 Sarge
    The public record is out there abundantly for all to see if they are seriously interested in researching the truth.
    The last thing I am going to do is indulge your obsessive, compulsive disorder for endless, pointless argumentation.
    Good night.

  423. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Perhaps we can talk about how Straus’ opposition to the bill that allows us to keep out guns in our cars was in support of “property rights”

    Or his support of gambling legislation was to increase Liberty.

  424. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Perhaps we can talk about how Straus’ opposition to the bill that allows us to keep out guns in our cars was in support of “property rights”
    Or his support of gambling legislation was to increase Liberty.

  425. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    The public record is out there abundantly for all to see if they are seriously interested in researching the truth.

    Well then it should be exceedingly easy for you to post them and make me look like the fool here.

  426. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    The public record is out there abundantly for all to see if they are seriously interested in researching the truth.

    Well then it should be exceedingly easy for you to post them and make me look like the fool here.

  427. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    You’ve never wasted an opportunity before. Folks might wonder why you don’t now.

  428. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    You’ve never wasted an opportunity before. Folks might wonder why you don’t now.

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