Weekend Independence Open Comments

This weekend, in the midst of our revelry and fun, we all should pause and thank God several men had the wisdom and courage to do what must be done.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

Powerful words written by wise men.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

Rush Limbaugh’s father wrote an essay many years ago that told the story of those brave men after they signed that document. Many of them were hounded by the British and wound up losing their property, their families, and in several cases, their lives for the cause they believed in.
Do we have anyone who can hold a candle to them?


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mharper42
mharper42
July 4, 2011 9:48 pm

#191 FA

That would seem to include more than just a political career.

The “D terd-nozzle” comment suggests Bones is talking about Powell’s political career. When he was a soldier, it wasn’t clear what his political alignment might be — properly so. Then he seemed to be a Republican. And then he up and endorsed Obammy.

mharper42
mharper42
July 4, 2011 9:31 pm

#161 Bones
Nice rebuttal on Colin Powell.
Endorsement of Obammy says it all for me.

mharper42
mharper42
July 4, 2011 9:27 pm

#155 TT

Just in case you didn’t know.

I knew. Bile pigments. You should always look before you flush. 🙂

mharper42
mharper42
July 4, 2011 9:24 pm

#153 ST

It was a great turn out

Got an estimate of the turnout? How long did it last?

Hamous
July 4, 2011 9:16 pm

Oh I get it, Boney. I just think its a beyond ridiculous comparison. The irony of it is it’s Americans like Colin Powell who have served this country honorably that gives you the right to compare him to a traitorous, taxing, misogynistic, incest-promoting, child rapist. Ain’t America great?

Bonecrusher
Bonecrusher
July 4, 2011 8:48 pm

If you have to make stuff up to make your point maybe your point ain’t that valid. As to your “extreme example”, unless Colin Powell is guilty of any of those things I don’t see what purpose it serves. I am dumbfounded as to how you can not see the example. When illustrating a point it is common to use… Read more »

Lawrence
Lawrence
July 4, 2011 8:26 pm

Nobody knows because money and politics have so corrupted the issue that the truth is no longer easily attainable. A lot of people stand to make a lot of money if this ruse of global warming/climate change can be kept alive. It is my opinion that the whole movement is a political farce that is attempting to transfer a tremendous… Read more »

Hamous
July 4, 2011 8:23 pm

If you have to make stuff up to make your point maybe your point ain’t that valid. As to your “extreme example”, unless Colin Powell is guilty of any of those things I don’t see what purpose it serves. I’d just go Joe Friday-style and leave the parable-making to Jesus.

Tedtam
Admin
July 4, 2011 7:54 pm

Okay, so is there global warming or is there not? Smoke belching from Asia’s rapidly growing economies is largely responsible for a halt in global warming in the decade after 1998 because of sulphur’s cooling effect, even though greenhouse gas emissions soared, a U.S. study said on Monday. Watch our when you’re around a liberal – you might get scratched… Read more »

Bonecrusher
Bonecrusher
July 4, 2011 7:10 pm

200

Bonecrusher
Bonecrusher
July 4, 2011 7:08 pm

Kind of like creating a story to illustrate a point. You know, like a parable. The person I used in my example does not exist to my knowledge, the behavior (starts out adult life in righteous fashion then falls to pieces and is sinful) is unfortunately too common. It happened to Solomon.

Hamous
July 4, 2011 6:55 pm

I was using an imaginary issue to illustrate a point.

Huh?

Bonecrusher
Bonecrusher
July 4, 2011 6:48 pm

Being pro abortion is sinful, the taking of INNOCENT LIFE is murder and abortion stops a beating heart every wissin time. Granting someone favored status (affirmative action) based on something beyond anyone’s control is (race) is sinful because it denies that all are CREATED EQUAL. Those are liberal positions and they are a window into the soul. Being pro abortion… Read more »

GJT
GJT
July 4, 2011 6:38 pm

#176
Ms. TT

I think April 15th is the closest we come to that dream.

With some democrats admitting that the 4th of July is more of a Republican holiday, Rush said April 15th is probably their 4th of July. 😀

GJT
GJT
July 4, 2011 6:30 pm

One’s repect can be earned and one’s respect can be, let’s say….damaged.

Shannon
Admin
July 4, 2011 6:23 pm

193
Likewise, I’m sure.

Lawrence
Lawrence
July 4, 2011 6:08 pm

I’m of the opinion that Bone has an opinion of Powell and can express it any way he sees fit.

Hamous
July 4, 2011 6:07 pm

There’s a nice documentary on Fox covering GW’s biking with prosthetic-wearing wounded warriors. I was watching that as well. I was humbled by the President’s comment, “I will spend the rest of my life honoring these soldiers.” I have no doubt he will. I spent the weekend celebrating our independence with friends who lost their son, brother, and uncle in… Read more »

fat albert
fat albert
July 4, 2011 6:04 pm

#188 GJT:

basically he is and always has been a D terd-nozzle.

That would seem to include more than just a political career.

fat albert
fat albert
July 4, 2011 5:57 pm

GJT: Never did have so much trouble making myself understood. If a man’s valiant service to our country makes him off limits to any criticism I never said that. In fact most of my posts make it clear that I have no problem criticizing General Powell. He is wrong, wrong, wrong – on a whole slew of topics. I do… Read more »

GJT
GJT
July 4, 2011 5:53 pm

‘Twas my only point.

GJT
GJT
July 4, 2011 5:51 pm

Bonecrusher’s initial comment spoke only of Powell’s political career, he immediately got jumped on.

Shannon
Admin
July 4, 2011 5:51 pm

185 GJT
The conversation is no longer exclusively about Bones initial comment and it hasn’t been for many comments.

Shannon
Admin
July 4, 2011 5:45 pm

Who here contends that service gives one an exemption from criticism?

GJT
GJT
July 4, 2011 5:39 pm

Bonecrusher’s initial comment was strictly regarding Colin Powell’s political career which I totatlly agree with. Large Intestine Powell has been on my poop list for quite some time, he is pro affirmative action, anti death penalty, pro gun control, pro UN, basically he is and always has been a D terd-nozzle. He endorsed the foul “O” what more needs to… Read more »

Tedtam
Admin
July 4, 2011 5:35 pm

First – there was the concrete house which would protect against anything, including zombies.
Now – in case you don’t make it inside the massive house, you should always carry one of these.
/end PSA

Shannon
Admin
July 4, 2011 5:30 pm

There’s a nice documentary on Fox covering GW’s biking with prosthetic-wearing wounded warriors.
GW and Laura are known to show up unannounced at DFW to welcome home our warriors.
I have a feeling they are doing something similar today. Independence Day.

fat albert
fat albert
July 4, 2011 5:19 pm

One last thing Bonecrusher:
Unless you drag up some prooftext which says that being a liberal is sinful, you need to be careful in throwing that accusation around. It’s not sinful to disagree with you despite what your ego might tell you.
Throwing around comments like your out-of-context quote from Ezekiel just harms the cause of Christ.

fat albert
fat albert
July 4, 2011 5:10 pm

#177 Bonecrusher: You said: Colin Powell is a product of affirmative action, as are his decorations. His primary distinguishing characteristic is that he could play the political game well and I believe that he used his race as a weapon. If you do not have direct, irrefutable proof to support your statement that you are out of line and you… Read more »

Tedtam
Admin
July 4, 2011 5:09 pm

Latest from my email:

“Fathom the hypocrisy of a Government
that requires every citizen to prove
they are insured……but not everyone
must prove they are a citizen” —

Shannon
Admin
July 4, 2011 4:58 pm

And I’ll be sure and drag out some Bible quote to back it up.

Shannon
Admin
July 4, 2011 4:56 pm

I’m outta here.
Going to a gathering which includes some men and women who risked their lives to defend my liberty. But alas some of them are liberals. I’ll be sure and tell them they have no business participating in the day’s festivities.

Bonecrusher
Bonecrusher
July 4, 2011 4:42 pm

#172 FA: Nevertheless sir, he is a much decorated combat veteran, who has spent his entire adult life serving our country. The bulk of my disdain for him has NOTHING TO WISSIN DO WITH HIS MILITARY SERVICE. IF you can refer to his behavior off the battlefield which weakened our status in the world AS HE DID AS SofS, as… Read more »

Tedtam
Admin
July 4, 2011 4:37 pm

#174 Shannon
I think April 15th is the closest we come to that dream.

Southern Tragedy
Southern Tragedy
July 4, 2011 4:16 pm

#174 Shannon: Not until Americans quit hyphenating themselves. Hope this helps. 🙂

Shannon
Admin
July 4, 2011 4:10 pm

Is there no day reserved for SOME semblance of national unity?

Southern Tragedy
Southern Tragedy
July 4, 2011 3:47 pm

Wheeeeee! Eddie Gallegos’ video is up Feel free to skip to 20:14 to listen to an atheist. Skip to the end and the photo shot when a Gold Star Mom was speaking. It took everything I had to choke the tears back. 12 yrs. ago to this day is when they had become Americans. Her son was a Marine and… Read more »

fat albert
fat albert
July 4, 2011 3:36 pm

#165 Bonecrusher: I do not agree with the politics of General Powell. I disagree with him on a number of major substantive issues, the ones you raised and others as well. Nevertheless sir, he is a much decorated combat veteran, who has spent his entire adult life serving our country. You owe him a measure of respect. By implying that… Read more »

Sarge
July 4, 2011 3:26 pm

Someone once told me that in order to become a Colonel, you need to know your Congressman. To become a General, you need to know them all. There’s plenty of men who have worn the uniform who’s political philosophy did not square with mine. Truman, Kennedy, and Johnson come to mind immediately. I’ll take issue with thier politics, and that… Read more »

Bonecrusher
Bonecrusher
July 4, 2011 3:23 pm

Let’s be real clear here: 1) I did not put Powell and McCain in the same boat as Kerry, I simply made the illustration that just because they are all vets does not make them OK as politicians. I used Kerry as an example as a vet who was definitely NOT OK, not because he was a vet but because… Read more »

Shannon
Admin
July 4, 2011 2:59 pm

Sarge may have a Pollyannish streak in saying that politics exclusively begins at the level of Colonel, but I must agree that putting Powell and McCain in the same swift boat as Kerry is pretty daft.

Sarge
July 4, 2011 2:41 pm

Colin Powell is a product of affirmative action, as are his decorations. You are so entirely off base with that remark as to be playing soccer while the rest of us are playing baseball. No element of Affirmative action got that man his Purple Heart, or the valor medal that went along with it. Did the bullets shot by the… Read more »

Shannon
Admin
July 4, 2011 2:38 pm

Rant Fatigue

Bonecrusher
Bonecrusher
July 4, 2011 2:26 pm

The stimulus report card is in and it reads $278,000 per job saved or created. The report was written by the White House’s Council of Economic Advisors, a group of three economists who were all handpicked by Obama, and it chronicles the alleged success of the “stimulus” in adding or saving jobs. So PF handpicked the economists and this is… Read more »

Bonecrusher
Bonecrusher
July 4, 2011 2:06 pm

I read a quote from him that he is in favor of affirmative action and gun control. That puts him in the elitist race baiting category. His policies were wrong then and his most recent revelation of himself, HIS SUPPORT FOR BARRY O, makes him nothing but slime now. As SofS, he was a kiss-ass and he never seemed to… Read more »

Southern Tragedy
Southern Tragedy
July 4, 2011 2:02 pm

Y’all were there with us in spirit, shuuuuugs. Lots of Harley Bikers there. PGR-ers, and veterans. Who knew there was a biker club for Moonshine Hill? There were 3 of them that attended. Prolly was the whole group since it’s such a small neighborhood. 🙂

fat albert
fat albert
July 4, 2011 1:54 pm

161:
Well, I guess name calling does work a lot better than substantive arguments…….
When do you get to the “I’m rubber you’re glue….” part?

Katfish
July 4, 2011 1:35 pm

#153 & 154 –

153
From those of us working, thanks for attending.

+1 from Katy!