Thursday Who Stole My Sunspots? Open Comments

Hmmm…
Just when all the evidence pointing to Global Warming has been all but debunked and hardly anyone other than the True Believers thinks it will happen, the sun goes and pulls a fast one on us all.

By a fast one, I mean that it looks like the sun may be slamming the door – hard – on any hint of a global warming trend for the near (and maybe even medium-term) future.

Some unusual solar readings, including fading sunspots and weakening magnetic activity near the poles, could be indications that our sun is preparing to be less active in the coming years.
The results of three separate studies seem to show that even as the current sunspot cycle swells toward the solar maximum, the sun could be heading into a more-dormant period, with activity during the next 11-year sunspot cycle greatly reduced or even eliminated. [emphasis mine]

A quiet sun is a sun that emits less radiation. Less radiation means less energy. Less energy means less energy heating the Earth. Less heating of the Earth means cooler temperatures.

“This is highly unusual and unexpected,” Hill said. “But the fact that three completely different views of the sun point in the same direction is a powerful indicator that the sunspot cycle may be going into hibernation.” [emphasis mine]

In short, that wacky sun is not going along with the NOAA consensus forecast.
How much of a difference can/will it make? Short answer – who knows for sure, but we do have a previous example.

Currently, the sun is in the midst of the period designated as Cycle 24 and is ramping up toward the cycle’s period of maximum activity. However, the recent findings indicate that the activity in the next 11-year solar cycle, Cycle 25, could be greatly reduced. In fact, some scientists are questioning whether this drop in activity could lead to a second Maunder Minimum, which was a 70-year period from 1645 to 1715 when the sun showed virtually no sunspots.

Our friends at Wikipedia have some info about the Maunder Minimum:

The Maunder Minimum coincided with the middle — and coldest part — of the Little Ice Age, during which Europe and North America were subjected to bitterly cold winters. Whether there is a causal connection between low sunspot activity and cold winters has not been proven; however, lower earth temperatures have been observed during low sunspot activity. The winter of 1708–9 was extremely cold.

Brrrrrr.


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  1. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    Burner,

    I am kind of sad to see the current cycle be so dismal and the prospects for future cycles be do dim, It is the sunspots that gin up the ionosphere and make it possible to bounce radio waves off of the upper layers, I am a Ham Operator and have been one since I was a child (lo these many years ago)

    I do believe it is incorrect to say there is no such thing as global warming. We have been on a warming cycle for roughly 10,000 years, although there have been a few dips from time to time. The 11 year sunspot cycle has had similar periods of quiet and active; although accurate observation of the cycle is fairly recent.

    The retreat of all glaciers world-wide along with the decrease in size of the polar caps in the last 100 years is pretty good physical evidence that warming is taking place. The real question is how much of man’s activity correlates to this warming process. To be sure there are many factors such as the sun’s output and the variations in Earth’s orbit. Volcanic emissions are a factor, but only to produce dips in the ongoing trend. What goes up must come down and that is just as true for volcanic ash as it is for lead balls.

    Normally we develop a hypothesis and set up experiments and experimental models to prove or disprove a hypothesis. We would then adjust the “dials” regulating the intensity or volume of the various parameters. The final result would be either a nice set of equations to predict the correlation of the various parameters OR exclude some or all of the parameters as having an impact. We could publish our findings and procedures and our peers could examine the results, construct their own similar experiments, and verify the results.

    The problem with the Earth’s Global warming is that the size of the experiment would have to be, well, Earth sized, which is not too practical. That fact has left us with these math models that are probably accurate on the very short term, but a real stretch when time, variations, and plain old chaos creeps into the process.

    Most of the scientific community ( and no I am not counting the so-called social scientists) believe that man’s activities have an impact on global warming, but that is maddeningly misinterpreted by the non-scientific community. It is a heavily nuanced position, but simply stated, “There is an impact, but we cannot accurately determine how much at this time.”

    What yanks my chain is that you can find PhDs aplenty who will back up one side or the other for money or to buttress their personal political beliefs. This is nothing new and has been going on since the time of Newton.

    Simple

  2. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    Burner,
    I am kind of sad to see the current cycle be so dismal and the prospects for future cycles be do dim, It is the sunspots that gin up the ionosphere and make it possible to bounce radio waves off of the upper layers, I am a Ham Operator and have been one since I was a child (lo these many years ago)
    I do believe it is incorrect to say there is no such thing as global warming. We have been on a warming cycle for roughly 10,000 years, although there have been a few dips from time to time. The 11 year sunspot cycle has had similar periods of quiet and active; although accurate observation of the cycle is fairly recent.
    The retreat of all glaciers world-wide along with the decrease in size of the polar caps in the last 100 years is pretty good physical evidence that warming is taking place. The real question is how much of man’s activity correlates to this warming process. To be sure there are many factors such as the sun’s output and the variations in Earth’s orbit. Volcanic emissions are a factor, but only to produce dips in the ongoing trend. What goes up must come down and that is just as true for volcanic ash as it is for lead balls.
    Normally we develop a hypothesis and set up experiments and experimental models to prove or disprove a hypothesis. We would then adjust the “dials” regulating the intensity or volume of the various parameters. The final result would be either a nice set of equations to predict the correlation of the various parameters OR exclude some or all of the parameters as having an impact. We could publish our findings and procedures and our peers could examine the results, construct their own similar experiments, and verify the results.
    The problem with the Earth’s Global warming is that the size of the experiment would have to be, well, Earth sized, which is not too practical. That fact has left us with these math models that are probably accurate on the very short term, but a real stretch when time, variations, and plain old chaos creeps into the process.
    Most of the scientific community ( and no I am not counting the so-called social scientists) believe that man’s activities have an impact on global warming, but that is maddeningly misinterpreted by the non-scientific community. It is a heavily nuanced position, but simply stated, “There is an impact, but we cannot accurately determine how much at this time.”
    What yanks my chain is that you can find PhDs aplenty who will back up one side or the other for money or to buttress their personal political beliefs. This is nothing new and has been going on since the time of Newton.
    Simple

  3. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    Burner,

    Use the following link to see the current impact of the Sunspots, CMEs, and flares on shortware propogation. The link will take you to WSPR Net. The map shows actual communications between beacons at various frequecies.

    Adjust the band setting and hit Update to see where radio comms are possible at this second.

    WSPR Net

    Simple

  4. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    Burner,
    Use the following link to see the current impact of the Sunspots, CMEs, and flares on shortware propogation. The link will take you to WSPR Net. The map shows actual communications between beacons at various frequecies.
    Adjust the band setting and hit Update to see where radio comms are possible at this second.
    WSPR Net
    Simple

  5. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Damfine article here comparing Barry to Herby (Hoover, that is):

    I am not convinced that the President’s political goose is cooked — yet. For one thing, luck can never be discounted. Recessions don’t last forever, anymore than booms do, and American capitalism is strong enough to stage a recovery in the face of poor policy. But luck aside, the President can still avoid the great mistake that finally wrecked Hoover: the failure to learn.

    President Hoover brought some convictions with him to office about how the economy worked, how government worked, and what his role as President should be. As the Depression deepened, he did the best he could within those limits, but nothing seems to have made him reconsider the mix of progressive ideas that he brought with him to the White House. As months of failure and disappointment grew into years, he doesn’t seem to have questioned those core ideas or to think about ways in which the economic emergency might require steps that in normal times would not be taken. He not only failed to end the Depression; he failed to give people a sense that he understood what was happening. Over-optimistic forecasts issued in part to build confidence came back to haunt him. To the public he seemed fuddled and doctrinaire, endlessly recycling stale platitudes in the face of radically new economic problems.

  6. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Damfine article here comparing Barry to Herby (Hoover, that is):

    I am not convinced that the President’s political goose is cooked — yet. For one thing, luck can never be discounted. Recessions don’t last forever, anymore than booms do, and American capitalism is strong enough to stage a recovery in the face of poor policy. But luck aside, the President can still avoid the great mistake that finally wrecked Hoover: the failure to learn.
    President Hoover brought some convictions with him to office about how the economy worked, how government worked, and what his role as President should be. As the Depression deepened, he did the best he could within those limits, but nothing seems to have made him reconsider the mix of progressive ideas that he brought with him to the White House. As months of failure and disappointment grew into years, he doesn’t seem to have questioned those core ideas or to think about ways in which the economic emergency might require steps that in normal times would not be taken. He not only failed to end the Depression; he failed to give people a sense that he understood what was happening. Over-optimistic forecasts issued in part to build confidence came back to haunt him. To the public he seemed fuddled and doctrinaire, endlessly recycling stale platitudes in the face of radically new economic problems.

  7. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Things aren’t working out for Righthaven.

    In his order, Hunt also expressed his belief that Righthaven “has made multiple inaccurate and likely dishonest statements to the court.”

    The judge specifically cited Righthaven’s failure to list Stephens Media, which owns the Review-Journal, as an interested party in the case.

    “Not only did Righthaven fail to identify Stephens Media as an interested party in this suit, the Court believes that Righthaven failed to disclose Stephens Media as an interested party in any of its approximately 200 cases filed in this District,” Hunt wrote.

  8. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Things aren’t working out for Righthaven.

    In his order, Hunt also expressed his belief that Righthaven “has made multiple inaccurate and likely dishonest statements to the court.”
    The judge specifically cited Righthaven’s failure to list Stephens Media, which owns the Review-Journal, as an interested party in the case.
    “Not only did Righthaven fail to identify Stephens Media as an interested party in this suit, the Court believes that Righthaven failed to disclose Stephens Media as an interested party in any of its approximately 200 cases filed in this District,” Hunt wrote.

  9. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #4, Hmm, couldn’t happen to a more deserving outfit.

  10. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #4, Hmm, couldn’t happen to a more deserving outfit.

  11. Hamous Avatar

    Simple: Has anyone produced the graph that plots mean sea temps with sunspots? I would imagine that particular graph is devastating to the MMGW argument.
    I seem to remember reading in one area that decreased sunspot activity also meant a decreased solar magnetic field, and that decreased field would be the rough equivalent of a decrease in “solar gravity” wich would enable more solar radiation to escape the sun. It is counter intuitive at first but after you think about it for a minute it could be plausible, kind of like a smaller percentage slice out of a bigger pie.

    The bottom line is that solar output is not constant and that big nukular reactor 100million miles across dictates 99.9? % of our climate and whatever man contributes is reduced to statistical noise.

  12. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Simple: Has anyone produced the graph that plots mean sea temps with sunspots? I would imagine that particular graph is devastating to the MMGW argument.
    I seem to remember reading in one area that decreased sunspot activity also meant a decreased solar magnetic field, and that decreased field would be the rough equivalent of a decrease in “solar gravity” wich would enable more solar radiation to escape the sun. It is counter intuitive at first but after you think about it for a minute it could be plausible, kind of like a smaller percentage slice out of a bigger pie.
    The bottom line is that solar output is not constant and that big nukular reactor 100million miles across dictates 99.9? % of our climate and whatever man contributes is reduced to statistical noise.

  13. Katfish Avatar

    Check the links above. They’re both graph and link rich.

  14. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Check the links above. They’re both graph and link rich.

  15. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #6 – Not even “noise” IMHO (more like a faint whisper in a CAT5 hurricane!)

  16. Katfish Avatar

    #6 – Not even “noise” IMHO (more like a faint whisper in a CAT5 hurricane!)

  17. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #3 Sarge, I agree, DAYAAM fine article and the similarities are striking, this paragraph explains why Obama WILL be defeated in 2012;

    President Hoover brought some convictions with him to office about how the economy worked, how government worked, and what his role as President should be. As the Depression deepened, he did the best he could within those limits, but nothing seems to have made him reconsider the mix of progressive ideas that he brought with him to the White House. As months of failure and disappointment grew into years, he doesn’t seem to have questioned those core ideas or to think about ways in which the economic emergency might require steps that in normal times would not be taken. He not only failed to end the Depression; he failed to give people a sense that he understood what was happening. Over-optimistic forecasts issued in part to build confidence came back to haunt him. To the public he seemed fuddled and doctrinaire, endlessly recycling stale platitudes in the face of radically new economic problems

    .
    Emphasis mine.

  18. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #3 Sarge, I agree, DAYAAM fine article and the similarities are striking, this paragraph explains why Obama WILL be defeated in 2012;

    President Hoover brought some convictions with him to office about how the economy worked, how government worked, and what his role as President should be. As the Depression deepened, he did the best he could within those limits, but nothing seems to have made him reconsider the mix of progressive ideas that he brought with him to the White House. As months of failure and disappointment grew into years, he doesn’t seem to have questioned those core ideas or to think about ways in which the economic emergency might require steps that in normal times would not be taken. He not only failed to end the Depression; he failed to give people a sense that he understood what was happening. Over-optimistic forecasts issued in part to build confidence came back to haunt him. To the public he seemed fuddled and doctrinaire, endlessly recycling stale platitudes in the face of radically new economic problems

    .
    Emphasis mine.

  19. El Gordo Avatar

    #10 SD,

    That doesn’t explain anything about Obama, it explains how Hoover laid the ground work for The Great Depression. If anything, I see more similarities between Hoover and Bush than I do between Hoover and Obama. My money is on Obama being elected to a second term, especially given the “quality” of Republican candidates we’ve seen thus far.

  20. Dooood Avatar

    #10 SD,
    That doesn’t explain anything about Obama, it explains how Hoover laid the ground work for The Great Depression. If anything, I see more similarities between Hoover and Bush than I do between Hoover and Obama. My money is on Obama being elected to a second term, especially given the “quality” of Republican candidates we’ve seen thus far.

  21. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #9

    his strong border-security record

    I’m one of those who believes border security is a federal issue and not up to the states. Having said that…what planet is this guy from?

  22. Hamous Avatar

    #9

    his strong border-security record

    I’m one of those who believes border security is a federal issue and not up to the states. Having said that…what planet is this guy from?

  23. Katfish Avatar

    #1 simple
    You are correct in that the globe has been on a general warming trend for an extended period and that the issue we’ve been arguing is how much of that warming trend is man-caused.

    Glaciers have retreated and advanced several times over recorded history. During the Maunder Minimum, many farms and villages were destroyed by advancing glaciers. There have also been much warmer times such as when Greenland was actually green.

    The upshot of this is that there really is no “base level” climate for the Earth; it is always in flux of some sort. Any notion that we as humans could seriously affect it is more than a little misguided until we have much better evidence.

  24. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #1 simple
    You are correct in that the globe has been on a general warming trend for an extended period and that the issue we’ve been arguing is how much of that warming trend is man-caused.
    Glaciers have retreated and advanced several times over recorded history. During the Maunder Minimum, many farms and villages were destroyed by advancing glaciers. There have also been much warmer times such as when Greenland was actually green.
    The upshot of this is that there really is no “base level” climate for the Earth; it is always in flux of some sort. Any notion that we as humans could seriously affect it is more than a little misguided until we have much better evidence.

  25. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Dude;

    My money is on Obama being elected to a second term, especially given the “quality” of Republican candidates we’ve seen thus far.

    I think you’re blinding yourself by your skip the box mentality. One of my main cautions against that thinking is that once you choose to do it, you’ll repeat it again and again and morph your thinking around it.

  26. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Dude;

    My money is on Obama being elected to a second term, especially given the “quality” of Republican candidates we’ve seen thus far.

    I think you’re blinding yourself by your skip the box mentality. One of my main cautions against that thinking is that once you choose to do it, you’ll repeat it again and again and morph your thinking around it.

  27. El Gordo Avatar

    I’m one of those who believes border security is a federal issue and not up to the states. Having said that…what planet is this guy from?

    Agreed and… good question.

    It’s disheartening to see this kind of rah rah-ing starting already. More disheartening is that a lot of voters will buy into it. Hook, line, and sinker. Blech.

  28. Dooood Avatar

    I’m one of those who believes border security is a federal issue and not up to the states. Having said that…what planet is this guy from?

    Agreed and… good question.
    It’s disheartening to see this kind of rah rah-ing starting already. More disheartening is that a lot of voters will buy into it. Hook, line, and sinker. Blech.

  29. El Gordo Avatar

    One of my main cautions against that thinking is that once you choose to do it, you’ll repeat it again and again and morph your thinking around it.

    The same could be said of your lesser of two evils voting pattern.

  30. Dooood Avatar

    One of my main cautions against that thinking is that once you choose to do it, you’ll repeat it again and again and morph your thinking around it.

    The same could be said of your lesser of two evils voting pattern.

  31. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Anthony Weiner to resign.

    According to two sources, Weiner made up his mind to resign Wednesday night, and shortly after began making calls to inform them of his decision. Weiner called DCCC chair Steve Israel — who had also called for his resignation — on Wednesday night at the White House picnic to inform him and Pelosi that he had decided to resign on Thursday.

  32. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Anthony Weiner to resign.

    According to two sources, Weiner made up his mind to resign Wednesday night, and shortly after began making calls to inform them of his decision. Weiner called DCCC chair Steve Israel — who had also called for his resignation — on Wednesday night at the White House picnic to inform him and Pelosi that he had decided to resign on Thursday.

  33. Hamous Avatar

    #16 Doooooooooooode: If one is faced with the choice between “just so-so” and “the prince of freakin darkness” it really is not much of a choice. If you choose the later you are virtually guaranteed misery and destruction, if you choose the former there is at least a chance of the really bad things being avoided. If you choose not to choose you still have made a choice and it is in effect for the worst option. Your vote for the least bad cancels out someone else’s choice for the more bad. With the exception of Luap Nor, any one of the R’s that were on the stage on Mon night would be orders of magnitude better than the wissin half nubian fraud that is there now.

  34. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #16 Doooooooooooode: If one is faced with the choice between “just so-so” and “the prince of freakin darkness” it really is not much of a choice. If you choose the later you are virtually guaranteed misery and destruction, if you choose the former there is at least a chance of the really bad things being avoided. If you choose not to choose you still have made a choice and it is in effect for the worst option. Your vote for the least bad cancels out someone else’s choice for the more bad. With the exception of Luap Nor, any one of the R’s that were on the stage on Mon night would be orders of magnitude better than the wissin half nubian fraud that is there now.

  35. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    That doesn’t explain anything about Obama, it explains how Hoover laid the ground work for The Great Depression. If anything, I see more similarities between Hoover and Bush than I do between Hoover and Obama. My money is on Obama being elected to a second term, especially given the “quality” of Republican candidates we’ve seen thus far.

    Hoover did not “lay the ground work.” The Depression began six months after he took office and was ongoing a year into his Presidency. An argument could be made that it was Calvin Coolidge who caused the Depression, if one wants to go with the “my predecessor did it” theory of History. Hoover’s Progressive policies failed to solve the problem and only deepened it.

    In that sense, Bush is Calvin Coolidge and Barry is Herbert Hoover. I think that’s a lot closer to Bush being Hoover.

  36. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    That doesn’t explain anything about Obama, it explains how Hoover laid the ground work for The Great Depression. If anything, I see more similarities between Hoover and Bush than I do between Hoover and Obama. My money is on Obama being elected to a second term, especially given the “quality” of Republican candidates we’ve seen thus far.

    Hoover did not “lay the ground work.” The Depression began six months after he took office and was ongoing a year into his Presidency. An argument could be made that it was Calvin Coolidge who caused the Depression, if one wants to go with the “my predecessor did it” theory of History. Hoover’s Progressive policies failed to solve the problem and only deepened it.
    In that sense, Bush is Calvin Coolidge and Barry is Herbert Hoover. I think that’s a lot closer to Bush being Hoover.

  37. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Once the socialists have solidified their grasp on our political system it will be very hard to break free. It took 75 years for the Bolsheviks to be driven out. I’m not willing (or able) to wait that long. I will vote for ANY of the declared candidates should they be the nominee, and almost any candidate being talked about as a possibility, because I believe Barry is that dangerous.

  38. Hamous Avatar

    Once the socialists have solidified their grasp on our political system it will be very hard to break free. It took 75 years for the Bolsheviks to be driven out. I’m not willing (or able) to wait that long. I will vote for ANY of the declared candidates should they be the nominee, and almost any candidate being talked about as a possibility, because I believe Barry is that dangerous.

  39. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    G’Morning all

    #17 Super Dave says:

    Anthony Weiner to resign.

    Weiners now in rehab. He’s being treated for sex addiction and narcissism.

    That just leaves him a month of drug addiction rehab away from completing his doctorate in Los Angeles Studies.

  40. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    G’Morning all
    #17 Super Dave says:

    Anthony Weiner to resign.

    Weiners now in rehab. He’s being treated for sex addiction and narcissism.
    That just leaves him a month of drug addiction rehab away from completing his doctorate in Los Angeles Studies.

  41. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #20 Hamous

    I agree 100%. I refuse to cut off my nose to spite my face or be a one issue voter who refuses to vote for someone solely because they don’t support my issue.

  42. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #20 Hamous
    I agree 100%. I refuse to cut off my nose to spite my face or be a one issue voter who refuses to vote for someone solely because they don’t support my issue.

  43. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Simple;

    Regarding glaciers retreating, India recently pulled out of the IPCC (though I like to say “ICPP” because of the phonetic sound of that abreviation and to ntentionally show disrespect for that pool of corruption) because of their report that one specific glacier in the Hymalayas was receeding and would soon disappear.

    In India the false claims have heightened tensions between Dr Pachauri and the government, which had earlier questioned his glacial melting claims. In Autumn, its environment minister Mr Jairam Ramesh said while glacial melting in the Himalayas was a real concern, there was evidence that some were actually advancing despite global warming.

    When I looked into this issue several months ago (probably over a year ago), I think there were around 300 glaciers around this receeding one which were either maintaining or increasing their size. This evidence looked towards a unique situation to that one glacier in question, NOT “global warming”. But since the ICPP were beholden to “global warming”, they rang the alrm bells and expressed fear of the Hymalayan glaciers melting and thus cutting off the water supply to people below. I find this very typical among the ICPP folks.

    Recently I posted Where’s the warming? which pointed out that despite an increase in CO2s, there has been no global warming in the past ten years. Yes, there are times where tempuratures may have been warmer, or cooler, than normal, but the world’s average tempurature has not changed in the past ten years.

    Not everybody believes that though. 🙁 What’s interesting there is that despite the pro-anthroprogenic position of that post, the video embedded in that post itself sites sloar flares and El niño as two, if not the two most significant facotrs involved in global temperatures.

  44. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Simple;
    Regarding glaciers retreating, India recently pulled out of the IPCC (though I like to say “ICPP” because of the phonetic sound of that abreviation and to ntentionally show disrespect for that pool of corruption) because of their report that one specific glacier in the Hymalayas was receeding and would soon disappear.

    In India the false claims have heightened tensions between Dr Pachauri and the government, which had earlier questioned his glacial melting claims. In Autumn, its environment minister Mr Jairam Ramesh said while glacial melting in the Himalayas was a real concern, there was evidence that some were actually advancing despite global warming.

    When I looked into this issue several months ago (probably over a year ago), I think there were around 300 glaciers around this receeding one which were either maintaining or increasing their size. This evidence looked towards a unique situation to that one glacier in question, NOT “global warming”. But since the ICPP were beholden to “global warming”, they rang the alrm bells and expressed fear of the Hymalayan glaciers melting and thus cutting off the water supply to people below. I find this very typical among the ICPP folks.
    Recently I posted Where’s the warming? which pointed out that despite an increase in CO2s, there has been no global warming in the past ten years. Yes, there are times where tempuratures may have been warmer, or cooler, than normal, but the world’s average tempurature has not changed in the past ten years.
    Not everybody believes that though. 🙁 What’s interesting there is that despite the pro-anthroprogenic position of that post, the video embedded in that post itself sites sloar flares and El niño as two, if not the two most significant facotrs involved in global temperatures.

  45. El Gordo Avatar

    With the exception of Luap Nor, any one of the R’s that were on the stage on Mon night would be orders of magnitude better than the wissin half nubian fraud that is there now.

    I do not agree.

  46. Dooood Avatar

    With the exception of Luap Nor, any one of the R’s that were on the stage on Mon night would be orders of magnitude better than the wissin half nubian fraud that is there now.

    I do not agree.

  47. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Dude;

    The same could be said of your lesser of two evils voting pattern.

    I guess it could; but you claimed that there is no quality candidate right now to vote for. Explain.

  48. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Dude;

    The same could be said of your lesser of two evils voting pattern.

    I guess it could; but you claimed that there is no quality candidate right now to vote for. Explain.

  49. Hamous Avatar

    So Aweiner Terd-nozzle is going to resign huh? I guess his prior “penetrating” commentary is a thing of the past and all we can expect from him in the future is his impotent whining about how things could have been. Hopefully he will just shrink flaccidly away from public view and we never have to hear from him (or see him) again.

  50. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    So Aweiner Terd-nozzle is going to resign huh? I guess his prior “penetrating” commentary is a thing of the past and all we can expect from him in the future is his impotent whining about how things could have been. Hopefully he will just shrink flaccidly away from public view and we never have to hear from him (or see him) again.

  51. El Gordo Avatar

    In that sense, Bush is Calvin Coolidge and Barry is Herbert Hoover.

    Read Amity Shlaes’ The Forgotten Man? I’ll stand by my comparison of Hoover and Bush.

  52. Dooood Avatar

    In that sense, Bush is Calvin Coolidge and Barry is Herbert Hoover.

    Read Amity Shlaes’ The Forgotten Man? I’ll stand by my comparison of Hoover and Bush.

  53. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Fox and CNN are reporting that Wiener is going to collapse his tent and pull out prematurely from his position.

    oops, should have refreshed before posting. My apologies.

  54. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Fox and CNN are reporting that Wiener is going to collapse his tent and pull out prematurely from his position.
    oops, should have refreshed before posting. My apologies.

  55. El Gordo Avatar

    I guess it could; but you claimed that there is no quality candidate right now to vote for. Explain.

    I do not believe there is any R or D currently being considered who would be sufficiently oriented to returning this country to constitutional principles to justify me voting for them. I’m not sure how much more I can explain it than that.

  56. Dooood Avatar

    I guess it could; but you claimed that there is no quality candidate right now to vote for. Explain.

    I do not believe there is any R or D currently being considered who would be sufficiently oriented to returning this country to constitutional principles to justify me voting for them. I’m not sure how much more I can explain it than that.

  57. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    An argument could be made that it was Calvin Coolidge who caused the Depression, if one wants to go with the “my predecessor did it” theory of History. Hoover’s Progressive policies failed to solve the problem and only deepened it.

    Correct. Blaming predecesors can be an iffy claim. Coolidge was an excellent president and Hoover openly wanted more Progressive policies implemented after Coolidge left office. To FDR, these policies weren’t Progressive enough.

  58. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    An argument could be made that it was Calvin Coolidge who caused the Depression, if one wants to go with the “my predecessor did it” theory of History. Hoover’s Progressive policies failed to solve the problem and only deepened it.

    Correct. Blaming predecesors can be an iffy claim. Coolidge was an excellent president and Hoover openly wanted more Progressive policies implemented after Coolidge left office. To FDR, these policies weren’t Progressive enough.

  59. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Speaking of State vs Federal immigration and border control, Mexico threatened economic reprisal against the U.S. Alabama’s new immigration law and Texas’ Sanctuary City Law. One thing to remember is Mexico is a huge trading partner with tremendous natural resources. In addition to oil, they send us beer, tequila silver and strawberries.

    They are also the number-one producer of Democrat voters.

  60. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Speaking of State vs Federal immigration and border control, Mexico threatened economic reprisal against the U.S. Alabama’s new immigration law and Texas’ Sanctuary City Law. One thing to remember is Mexico is a huge trading partner with tremendous natural resources. In addition to oil, they send us beer, tequila silver and strawberries.
    They are also the number-one producer of Democrat voters.

  61. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Dude;

    Are Herman Cain and Michelle Bachman not sufficient enough?

  62. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Dude;
    Are Herman Cain and Michelle Bachman not sufficient enough?

  63. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Dude;

    I too think there similarities between Bush and Hoover.

  64. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Dude;
    I too think there similarities between Bush and Hoover.

  65. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Hamous #20;

    Me too. One important issue left out thus far is that Justice Ginsburg will retire during the next term of the sitting president. That’s a huge significance on the political front. Replacing her with a constitutional originalist would shift the court from left/moderate leaning to a more conservative/constitutional one. There’s also Obamacare which needs to be stopped, taxes to lower, regulation to deregulate, etc.

  66. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Hamous #20;
    Me too. One important issue left out thus far is that Justice Ginsburg will retire during the next term of the sitting president. That’s a huge significance on the political front. Replacing her with a constitutional originalist would shift the court from left/moderate leaning to a more conservative/constitutional one. There’s also Obamacare which needs to be stopped, taxes to lower, regulation to deregulate, etc.

  67. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Breaking: NYT says Weiner will resign; Update: “Staff leaving with their belongings”

    The scary thing is that this may give Weiner more time to tweet. At least he shouldn’t have access to government resources when he does.

  68. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Breaking: NYT says Weiner will resign; Update: “Staff leaving with their belongings”
    The scary thing is that this may give Weiner more time to tweet. At least he shouldn’t have access to government resources when he does.

  69. El Gordo Avatar

    Are Herman Cain and Michelle Bachman not sufficient enough?

    I would call them the best of the bad (in the order you list them), but no, unfortunately I do not believe either would do what needs to be done to rescue our economy. Michelle Bachman is out of the question for me. I’ve seen where she’s been on the fence on ethanol subsidies. That alone disqualifies her in my book.

    Herman Cain I have some hope for. There are some things that concern me there, but I could possibly be persuaded to vote for him. That said, I think him getting the nomination is a VERY long shot.

  70. Dooood Avatar

    Are Herman Cain and Michelle Bachman not sufficient enough?

    I would call them the best of the bad (in the order you list them), but no, unfortunately I do not believe either would do what needs to be done to rescue our economy. Michelle Bachman is out of the question for me. I’ve seen where she’s been on the fence on ethanol subsidies. That alone disqualifies her in my book.
    Herman Cain I have some hope for. There are some things that concern me there, but I could possibly be persuaded to vote for him. That said, I think him getting the nomination is a VERY long shot.

  71. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Dude;

    I would call them the best of the bad (in the order you list them), but no, unfortunately I do not believe either would do what needs to be done to rescue our economy.

    Dude, if these two are not economically viable candidates, then I honestly do not know who or **what** you’re looking for.

  72. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Dude;

    I would call them the best of the bad (in the order you list them), but no, unfortunately I do not believe either would do what needs to be done to rescue our economy.

    Dude, if these two are not economically viable candidates, then I honestly do not know who or **what** you’re looking for.

  73. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    That alone disqualifies her in my book.

    I find this supporting my claim that I think you’re blinded by your skipping the box mentality. If subsidizing ethonal is the **sole** reason you would not vote for Bachman, then it seems to me you’re looking for God to run for president. And for the record, I would vote for him if he ran. 🙂

  74. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    That alone disqualifies her in my book.

    I find this supporting my claim that I think you’re blinded by your skipping the box mentality. If subsidizing ethonal is the **sole** reason you would not vote for Bachman, then it seems to me you’re looking for God to run for president. And for the record, I would vote for him if he ran. 🙂

  75. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Gotta go pack for trip to see daughter in New York early tomorrow. Y’all take care for the next few days.

  76. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Gotta go pack for trip to see daughter in New York early tomorrow. Y’all take care for the next few days.

  77. El Gordo Avatar

    Darren,

    For lack of a better term, I guess I’m a Denningerian. Read his site on a daily basis for a few months and you’ll get the feel of what I’m after. I don’t agree with every last thing that Karl writes – I do find him to be overly pessimistic sometimes – but for the most part I think the guy has his mind right on the economy.

  78. Dooood Avatar

    Darren,
    For lack of a better term, I guess I’m a Denningerian. Read his site on a daily basis for a few months and you’ll get the feel of what I’m after. I don’t agree with every last thing that Karl writes – I do find him to be overly pessimistic sometimes – but for the most part I think the guy has his mind right on the economy.

  79. El Gordo Avatar

    Ethanol subsidies aren’t the sole reason. Rather they are but one symptom of a much larger disease.

  80. Dooood Avatar

    Ethanol subsidies aren’t the sole reason. Rather they are but one symptom of a much larger disease.

  81. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    Dooooood:

    If you can’t see a difference between BHO and Herman Cain or Tim Pawlenty, or Michelle Bachman, then it’s probably best that you don’t vote anyway.

  82. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    Dooooood:
    If you can’t see a difference between BHO and Herman Cain or Tim Pawlenty, or Michelle Bachman, then it’s probably best that you don’t vote anyway.

  83. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Dude;

    Ethanol subsidies aren’t the sole reason. Rather they are but one symptom of a much larger disease.

    Huh?

    Michelle Bachman is out of the question for me. I’ve seen where she’s been on the fence on ethanol subsidies. That alone disqualifies her in my book.

    (bold mine)

  84. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Dude;

    Ethanol subsidies aren’t the sole reason. Rather they are but one symptom of a much larger disease.

    Huh?

    Michelle Bachman is out of the question for me. I’ve seen where she’s been on the fence on ethanol subsidies. That alone disqualifies her in my book.

    (bold mine)

  85. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    The White house dossier has some inside information.

    just not clear to me anymore that the $400,000 a year salary, the chauffeured limousine, the free mansion, the catered meals, and the opportunity to be the most powerful man in the world is enough compensation for what he has to go through. Gosh, all of you out there who are unemployed, count your blessings that you don’t have to work like this.

    I made some phone calls and a source deep within the White House revealed that President Obama has written down the things he doesn’t like about his job. After sending my source a bottle of his favorite brand of scotch, he sent me Obama’s list, titled, “The Ten Things I Hate About My Job.”

    I print it here for you.

    ********

    1. White House is great, but smoking not allowed in federal buildings.

    2. Chauffeur sometimes accelerates too quickly.

    3. Tired of Lobster Parisienne every day for breakfast.

    4. Salary of $400,000 is pretty good but can’t get direct deposit.

    5. Military dudes always laugh when I ask them about the environmental impact of their activities.

    6. It’s tough having meetings when Hillary is there because she always thinks she’s the smartest one in the room when really I’m the smartest one in the room.

    7. Must have lunch once a week with Biden.

    8. Must have lunch once a week with Michelle.

    9. Every room is a different damn color.

    10. Being both the president and the Messiah is just a little too much on my plate.

    http://www.whitehousedossier.com/

  86. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    The White house dossier has some inside information.

    just not clear to me anymore that the $400,000 a year salary, the chauffeured limousine, the free mansion, the catered meals, and the opportunity to be the most powerful man in the world is enough compensation for what he has to go through. Gosh, all of you out there who are unemployed, count your blessings that you don’t have to work like this.
    I made some phone calls and a source deep within the White House revealed that President Obama has written down the things he doesn’t like about his job. After sending my source a bottle of his favorite brand of scotch, he sent me Obama’s list, titled, “The Ten Things I Hate About My Job.”
    I print it here for you.
    ********
    1. White House is great, but smoking not allowed in federal buildings.
    2. Chauffeur sometimes accelerates too quickly.
    3. Tired of Lobster Parisienne every day for breakfast.
    4. Salary of $400,000 is pretty good but can’t get direct deposit.
    5. Military dudes always laugh when I ask them about the environmental impact of their activities.
    6. It’s tough having meetings when Hillary is there because she always thinks she’s the smartest one in the room when really I’m the smartest one in the room.
    7. Must have lunch once a week with Biden.
    8. Must have lunch once a week with Michelle.
    9. Every room is a different damn color.
    10. Being both the president and the Messiah is just a little too much on my plate.

    http://www.whitehousedossier.com/

  87. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    fat albert #42;

    I think Dude does see a difference; just not sufficient enough to vote for Bachman or any other GOP candidate except maybe Herman Cain. though I still agree with your suggestive conclusion. 🙂

  88. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    fat albert #42;
    I think Dude does see a difference; just not sufficient enough to vote for Bachman or any other GOP candidate except maybe Herman Cain. though I still agree with your suggestive conclusion. 🙂

  89. Hamous Avatar

    Doooooooode: I would caution you to not let “the perfect” be the enemy of “the pretty good” and “THE MUCH WISSIN BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW”

  90. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Doooooooode: I would caution you to not let “the perfect” be the enemy of “the pretty good” and “THE MUCH WISSIN BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW”

  91. El Gordo Avatar

    If you can’t see a difference between BHO and Herman Cain or Tim Pawlenty, or Michelle Bachman, then it’s probably best that you don’t vote anyway.

    I didn’t say I can’t see a difference. Nor did I say that I wasn’t going to vote, just that I wouldn’t be voting for one of the two options many of you seem to think are the only options. Or I may skip the presidential box and vote down ballot. Either way, I’ll vote my mind like you or anyone else.

  92. Dooood Avatar

    If you can’t see a difference between BHO and Herman Cain or Tim Pawlenty, or Michelle Bachman, then it’s probably best that you don’t vote anyway.

    I didn’t say I can’t see a difference. Nor did I say that I wasn’t going to vote, just that I wouldn’t be voting for one of the two options many of you seem to think are the only options. Or I may skip the presidential box and vote down ballot. Either way, I’ll vote my mind like you or anyone else.

  93. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #35 Darren See my #17.

  94. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #35 Darren See my #17.

  95. El Gordo Avatar

    I would caution you to not let “the perfect” be the enemy of “the pretty good”

    Thanks, but I’ve been hearing that song for my entire voting life. It sounds just as off key to me now as it did the first time I heard it.

  96. Dooood Avatar

    I would caution you to not let “the perfect” be the enemy of “the pretty good”

    Thanks, but I’ve been hearing that song for my entire voting life. It sounds just as off key to me now as it did the first time I heard it.

  97. El Gordo Avatar

    #43,

    Yes, I did contradict myself there. The ethanol subsidy thing is a litmus test for me just as abortion is with some of you. I try not to be an overly “black or white” kind of thinker with regard to politics, but I guess I really am.

  98. Dooood Avatar

    #43,
    Yes, I did contradict myself there. The ethanol subsidy thing is a litmus test for me just as abortion is with some of you. I try not to be an overly “black or white” kind of thinker with regard to politics, but I guess I really am.

  99. Tedtam Avatar

    I’m waaaaaay busy, and I’ve only skimmed through this morning’s entries. My response, before I bow out to analyze traffic control plans and generate a new proposal for one of our customers, on top of the 3″ high stack of paperwork:

    1) I disagree that there are no R candidates better than TBO. Frankly, I would vote for a grilled cheese sandwich if I had to. At least GCSs don’t make things worse. And they’re not nearly as stupid as the current POTUS.
    2) I don’t think anyone here ever argued that there was no global warming. The argument has always been about MMGW. Most everyone here is intelligent enough to realize that the global weather has always been in flux, and as was stated before: What the heck is the “baseline” to compare today’s weather to?
    3) Righthaven. Nail their wissin’ wisses to the wissin’ wall. In public. They are worse than ambulance chasers. At least ambulance chasers are in some way helping somebody, vultures though they be.
    4) Weiner. Remove his Twitter. And his staff. Then send him home. Even though I’m not a big Huma fan, I am so glad I’m not her. Can you imagine the talk headed her way? It seems that she’s a strong woman, but no woman wants to see pictures of her husband in ladies underwear splashed across the national stage. And what to tell their child?

  100. Tedtam Avatar

    I’m waaaaaay busy, and I’ve only skimmed through this morning’s entries. My response, before I bow out to analyze traffic control plans and generate a new proposal for one of our customers, on top of the 3″ high stack of paperwork:
    1) I disagree that there are no R candidates better than TBO. Frankly, I would vote for a grilled cheese sandwich if I had to. At least GCSs don’t make things worse. And they’re not nearly as stupid as the current POTUS.
    2) I don’t think anyone here ever argued that there was no global warming. The argument has always been about MMGW. Most everyone here is intelligent enough to realize that the global weather has always been in flux, and as was stated before: What the heck is the “baseline” to compare today’s weather to?
    3) Righthaven. Nail their wissin’ wisses to the wissin’ wall. In public. They are worse than ambulance chasers. At least ambulance chasers are in some way helping somebody, vultures though they be.
    4) Weiner. Remove his Twitter. And his staff. Then send him home. Even though I’m not a big Huma fan, I am so glad I’m not her. Can you imagine the talk headed her way? It seems that she’s a strong woman, but no woman wants to see pictures of her husband in ladies underwear splashed across the national stage. And what to tell their child?

  101. Tedtam Avatar

    And a grilled cheese sandwich ain’t nearly as arrogant.

    Okay, now I’m off. Nose the grindstone, and whatnot.

  102. Tedtam Avatar

    And a grilled cheese sandwich ain’t nearly as arrogant.
    Okay, now I’m off. Nose the grindstone, and whatnot.

  103. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    Darren:

    This is what he said:

    I do not believe there is any R or D currently being considered who would be sufficiently oriented to returning this country to constitutional principles to justify me voting for them.

    Functionally this means that he thinks Cain, Bachman, et al, are no better/different that BHO. I understand that none of them may achieve the ideological perfection that Doood himself might bring to the job, but until we have perfection to vote for we have to make the best of an imperfect lot.

    You made the most telling argument: “In choosing not to choose you have actually made a choice”. Our country can ill afford a bunch of malcontents running around whining that the candidates aren’t ideologically pure enough so they aren’t going to vote.

  104. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    Darren:
    This is what he said:

    I do not believe there is any R or D currently being considered who would be sufficiently oriented to returning this country to constitutional principles to justify me voting for them.

    Functionally this means that he thinks Cain, Bachman, et al, are no better/different that BHO. I understand that none of them may achieve the ideological perfection that Doood himself might bring to the job, but until we have perfection to vote for we have to make the best of an imperfect lot.
    You made the most telling argument: “In choosing not to choose you have actually made a choice”. Our country can ill afford a bunch of malcontents running around whining that the candidates aren’t ideologically pure enough so they aren’t going to vote.

  105. Hamous Avatar

    #49 Doooooode: The fact remains that the choice, in November, is between the D’s and the R’s. Any other parties candidates that may be on the ballot will only serve to pull votes away from the R or the D and whichever the pull is from, the other will win. Essentially the choice, in November, is binary and if you do not vote for the R that is, in reality a 1/2 vote at the minimum for the D.
    I did not like the choices of either of the Bushes, Dole or McCain but I voted for them because they were so much better than the D choice. The time to make the difference and really push for the one you feel is best is in the primary.

  106. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #49 Doooooode: The fact remains that the choice, in November, is between the D’s and the R’s. Any other parties candidates that may be on the ballot will only serve to pull votes away from the R or the D and whichever the pull is from, the other will win. Essentially the choice, in November, is binary and if you do not vote for the R that is, in reality a 1/2 vote at the minimum for the D.
    I did not like the choices of either of the Bushes, Dole or McCain but I voted for them because they were so much better than the D choice. The time to make the difference and really push for the one you feel is best is in the primary.

  107. meglettx Avatar

    Obviously, the pain hasn’t been strong enough.

    Folks like Fat Albert and Dann Patrick continue to make excuses for marginal candidates with progressive records and continue to try and persuade the truly conservative among us that the ol’ slow, progressive road to socialism traveled by the likes of Rick Perry and others of his ilk is somehow better than the faster road of admitted socialists like the Marxist Muslim Mulatto. They haven’t figured out the destination on the two tickets is the same.

    It’s been an empty political argument of the Establishment Repuke Machine for decades and much like three day old fish, stinks to high heaven.

  108. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    Obviously, the pain hasn’t been strong enough.
    Folks like Fat Albert and Dann Patrick continue to make excuses for marginal candidates with progressive records and continue to try and persuade the truly conservative among us that the ol’ slow, progressive road to socialism traveled by the likes of Rick Perry and others of his ilk is somehow better than the faster road of admitted socialists like the Marxist Muslim Mulatto. They haven’t figured out the destination on the two tickets is the same.
    It’s been an empty political argument of the Establishment Repuke Machine for decades and much like three day old fish, stinks to high heaven.

  109. El Gordo Avatar

    The time to make the difference and really push for the one you feel is best is in the primary.

    Another one I’ve heard my entire voting life and still don’t buy.

  110. Dooood Avatar

    The time to make the difference and really push for the one you feel is best is in the primary.

    Another one I’ve heard my entire voting life and still don’t buy.

  111. El Gordo Avatar

    Functionally this means that he thinks Cain, Bachman, et al, are no better/different that BHO.

    In no shape, form, or fashion did I say anything even remotely resembling that.

  112. Dooood Avatar

    Functionally this means that he thinks Cain, Bachman, et al, are no better/different that BHO.

    In no shape, form, or fashion did I say anything even remotely resembling that.

  113. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    This is good – global warming, Weiner, ethanol subsidies, etc. Folks, the issues are simply this – the economy, the currency, and the state of the world. I read something the other day, I believe in the Financial Times, how distressing it is to the rest of the civilized world to perceive the U.S. as being weak. A weakened U.S. opens the door for worldwide instability since no one, regardless of what kind of tinhorn dictator they may be, fears any retaliation no matter what kind of trouble they stir up. With our Dear Leader refusing to accept the mantle of leadership traditionally enjoyed by the POTUS, the mice are free to play worldwide. Ghadiffi plays chess with the Russians while we drop bombs by the tons in the desert – just how devastating a picture is that? Syrian leadership slaughters its own population without the least hint of fear of reprisal – at least you used to be able to count on the CIA to conduct some kind of underground activities geared toward removing the despots. The absence of a functioning private sector to provide new products, jobs, and services, the outward relentless attempts to destroy what is left of our energy production, the expansion of an ever bloated bureaucracy, the ongoing intrusion of government into our everyday lives – any and all of these issues are serious. Whether the Weiner is either in or out is not important, man made global warming is a hoax, what’s on TV tonight, or who won the Stanley Cup is not important. Even American Idol is not important, nor is the outcome of the ongoing negotiations between the NFL and the players union. Someone somewhere need to focus on the issues that can save our nation and provide for that shining city of freedom on the hill for our children and as an example for the rest of the world.

  114. El Gordo Avatar

    This is good – global warming, Weiner, ethanol subsidies, etc. Folks, the issues are simply this – the economy, the currency, and the state of the world. I read something the other day, I believe in the Financial Times, how distressing it is to the rest of the civilized world to perceive the U.S. as being weak. A weakened U.S. opens the door for worldwide instability since no one, regardless of what kind of tinhorn dictator they may be, fears any retaliation no matter what kind of trouble they stir up. With our Dear Leader refusing to accept the mantle of leadership traditionally enjoyed by the POTUS, the mice are free to play worldwide. Ghadiffi plays chess with the Russians while we drop bombs by the tons in the desert – just how devastating a picture is that? Syrian leadership slaughters its own population without the least hint of fear of reprisal – at least you used to be able to count on the CIA to conduct some kind of underground activities geared toward removing the despots. The absence of a functioning private sector to provide new products, jobs, and services, the outward relentless attempts to destroy what is left of our energy production, the expansion of an ever bloated bureaucracy, the ongoing intrusion of government into our everyday lives – any and all of these issues are serious. Whether the Weiner is either in or out is not important, man made global warming is a hoax, what’s on TV tonight, or who won the Stanley Cup is not important. Even American Idol is not important, nor is the outcome of the ongoing negotiations between the NFL and the players union. Someone somewhere need to focus on the issues that can save our nation and provide for that shining city of freedom on the hill for our children and as an example for the rest of the world.

  115. El Gordo Avatar

    Obviously, the pain hasn’t been strong enough.

    And Lawrence nails it.

  116. Dooood Avatar

    Obviously, the pain hasn’t been strong enough.

    And Lawrence nails it.

  117. meglettx Avatar

    Hey Bonecrusher, how’d that “the time to make a difference….is in the primary” garbage work out for you in the Texas Primary in the last presidential election? Or, for that matter, in the last Texas gubernatorial election? How much of a difference did your primary vote make? The Repuke Establishment and the media and a handful of electorally dysfuntional states had already chosen the candidate by the time the Texas Primary occurred, as I recall. And the excuse making and rationalizing was in full force then, too.

    I will not vote for any ticket that includes the One tRick Perry, period.

    I guess if they put up a progressive like Perry we’ll just be in for an “American Spring” in 2012 when Obama gets reelected.

    Homie don’t play the “gloom and doom” threats anymore.

  118. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    Hey Bonecrusher, how’d that “the time to make a difference….is in the primary” garbage work out for you in the Texas Primary in the last presidential election? Or, for that matter, in the last Texas gubernatorial election? How much of a difference did your primary vote make? The Repuke Establishment and the media and a handful of electorally dysfuntional states had already chosen the candidate by the time the Texas Primary occurred, as I recall. And the excuse making and rationalizing was in full force then, too.
    I will not vote for any ticket that includes the One tRick Perry, period.
    I guess if they put up a progressive like Perry we’ll just be in for an “American Spring” in 2012 when Obama gets reelected.
    Homie don’t play the “gloom and doom” threats anymore.

  119. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    Low-rents:

    Please point out once – just once – a statement I made excusing or justifying a “marginal candidate”. I will stack my conservative credentials up against yours anytime you would like.

    the ol’ slow, progressive road to socialism traveled by the likes of Rick Perry and others of his ilk is somehow better than the faster road of admitted socialists like the Marxist Muslim Mulatto.

    Actually, yes given the fact that we are gonna go down the road anyway, I’d prefer to go as slow as possible – that way we have more time to turn around before it’s too late.

    We live in a nation that has a two party system – you may not like it but you’re not gonna change it. (If you really believe you are, let me know – I know where there are a couple of windmills you can tilt at)

    But hey, it’s so much more fun to mutter “Establishment Repuke Machine” to yourself, feel self-righteous and go fishing than actually rolling up your sleeves and working to get good candidates in the system.

  120. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    Low-rents:
    Please point out once – just once – a statement I made excusing or justifying a “marginal candidate”. I will stack my conservative credentials up against yours anytime you would like.

    the ol’ slow, progressive road to socialism traveled by the likes of Rick Perry and others of his ilk is somehow better than the faster road of admitted socialists like the Marxist Muslim Mulatto.

    Actually, yes given the fact that we are gonna go down the road anyway, I’d prefer to go as slow as possible – that way we have more time to turn around before it’s too late.
    We live in a nation that has a two party system – you may not like it but you’re not gonna change it. (If you really believe you are, let me know – I know where there are a couple of windmills you can tilt at)
    But hey, it’s so much more fun to mutter “Establishment Repuke Machine” to yourself, feel self-righteous and go fishing than actually rolling up your sleeves and working to get good candidates in the system.

  121. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Homie don’t play the “gloom and doom” threats anymore.

    Isn’t that what you and Dude are doing too? In many ways y’all are even doomier and gloomier. There appears to be no potential candidate in the whole country that y’all would consider voting for. Don’t get me wrong, I’m pessimistic as hell too. So much so that I’m firmly in the camp that believes ALL politicians suck and there’s no way out of it. Either way we’re going downhill. I’ve resigned myself to that inevitable fact. So I’ll vote for a candidate that sucks the least in hopes of postponing the apocalypse for a few years more because once that apocalypse happens there will be no amazing comeback. We’ll all be living in a post-apocalyptic squalor for generations to come.

  122. Hamous Avatar

    Homie don’t play the “gloom and doom” threats anymore.

    Isn’t that what you and Dude are doing too? In many ways y’all are even doomier and gloomier. There appears to be no potential candidate in the whole country that y’all would consider voting for. Don’t get me wrong, I’m pessimistic as hell too. So much so that I’m firmly in the camp that believes ALL politicians suck and there’s no way out of it. Either way we’re going downhill. I’ve resigned myself to that inevitable fact. So I’ll vote for a candidate that sucks the least in hopes of postponing the apocalypse for a few years more because once that apocalypse happens there will be no amazing comeback. We’ll all be living in a post-apocalyptic squalor for generations to come.

  123. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    #56 Doooooooooooooooooood:

    Another one I’ve heard my entire voting life and still don’t buy.

    Cool. So you just go ahead and pull that libertarian lever in November. And walk out of the voting booth secure in the knowledge that you and the 2 percent of the population who voted with you accomplished absolutely nothing – other than to not vote for a candidate who might actually win.

  124. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    #56 Doooooooooooooooooood:

    Another one I’ve heard my entire voting life and still don’t buy.

    Cool. So you just go ahead and pull that libertarian lever in November. And walk out of the voting booth secure in the knowledge that you and the 2 percent of the population who voted with you accomplished absolutely nothing – other than to not vote for a candidate who might actually win.

  125. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    #62 Hamous:

    No, you don’t understand. What Dooooooooooooooooooooooooood and Lowrents are saying is that if they just sit over on the side and hold their collective breath long enough so that everyone sees them in their collective purple snit, the Republican party will finally come to it’s senses and nominate a Luap Nor or Karl Denninger or Alan Keys and then they can vote – unless they find some flaw in them too.

  126. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    #62 Hamous:
    No, you don’t understand. What Dooooooooooooooooooooooooood and Lowrents are saying is that if they just sit over on the side and hold their collective breath long enough so that everyone sees them in their collective purple snit, the Republican party will finally come to it’s senses and nominate a Luap Nor or Karl Denninger or Alan Keys and then they can vote – unless they find some flaw in them too.

  127. meglettx Avatar

    Hamnster, what were we told for Tarp, Stimulus, etc. etc.

    Tanks were gonna be rollin’ in the streets if we didn’t and all that other BS. Bernanke is runnin’ that same crap right now on the debt ceiling. It’s the politics of fear – and works great in your so appropriately named toooPardeedoowopoly(apologies to Jack).

    Self-righteous? If that’s what telling the uncomfortable truth is.

    Hey, Hey, Hey, Fat Albert – That won’t sell here, you’re going to have to work harder than that to hurt my feelings.

  128. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    Hamnster, what were we told for Tarp, Stimulus, etc. etc.
    Tanks were gonna be rollin’ in the streets if we didn’t and all that other BS. Bernanke is runnin’ that same crap right now on the debt ceiling. It’s the politics of fear – and works great in your so appropriately named toooPardeedoowopoly(apologies to Jack).
    Self-righteous? If that’s what telling the uncomfortable truth is.
    Hey, Hey, Hey, Fat Albert – That won’t sell here, you’re going to have to work harder than that to hurt my feelings.

  129. El Gordo Avatar

    That won’t sell here, you’re going to have to work harder than that to hurt my feelings.

    Hey, at least it’s plural with you. I only have the one.

    🙂

  130. Dooood Avatar

    That won’t sell here, you’re going to have to work harder than that to hurt my feelings.

    Hey, at least it’s plural with you. I only have the one.
    🙂

  131. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    #65 Lawrence:

    Have fun fishing…….

  132. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    #65 Lawrence:
    Have fun fishing…….

  133. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    How’s about a general question folks?

    Can we agree – regardless of personal reasons – that skipping “the POTUS box” in the 2012 election will be tantamount to a vote FOR the current POTUS in purely mathematical terms?

    And hey I might skip it also………too early to tell (for me)

    I remain ashamed to this day of my vote for Perot………………(based on the resulting election of Slick Willie – who, in retrospect, I’d LOVE to have instead of the current Loser)

  134. Katfish Avatar

    How’s about a general question folks?
    Can we agree – regardless of personal reasons – that skipping “the POTUS box” in the 2012 election will be tantamount to a vote FOR the current POTUS in purely mathematical terms?
    And hey I might skip it also………too early to tell (for me)
    I remain ashamed to this day of my vote for Perot………………(based on the resulting election of Slick Willie – who, in retrospect, I’d LOVE to have instead of the current Loser)

  135. Katfish Avatar

    Hamnster, what were we told for Tarp, Stimulus, etc. etc.

    Tanks were gonna be rollin’ in the streets if we didn’t and all that other BS. Bernanke is runnin’ that same crap right now on the debt ceiling. It’s the politics of fear – and works great in your so appropriately named toooPardeedoowpoly(apologies to Jack).

    We all know that we can’t continue on the path we’re on forever. Anything that can’t go on forever won’t. Either we’ll turn around in time or we’ll head over the cliff.

    If we turn around in time, hopefully we’ll have learned a good lesson and won’t allow ourselves to get as close to the cliff as we are now again. If we go over the cliff, things will get beyond ugly and will not improve anytime soon.

  136. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Hamnster, what were we told for Tarp, Stimulus, etc. etc.
    Tanks were gonna be rollin’ in the streets if we didn’t and all that other BS. Bernanke is runnin’ that same crap right now on the debt ceiling. It’s the politics of fear – and works great in your so appropriately named toooPardeedoowpoly(apologies to Jack).

    We all know that we can’t continue on the path we’re on forever. Anything that can’t go on forever won’t. Either we’ll turn around in time or we’ll head over the cliff.
    If we turn around in time, hopefully we’ll have learned a good lesson and won’t allow ourselves to get as close to the cliff as we are now again. If we go over the cliff, things will get beyond ugly and will not improve anytime soon.

  137. Katfish Avatar

    Can we agree – regardless of personal reasons – that skipping “the POTUS box” in the 2012 election will be tantamount to a vote FOR the current POTUS in purely mathematical terms?

    Nope.

    It’s tantamount to voting for whoever wins in Texas.

    I remain ashamed to this day of my vote for Perot

    As well you should be.

  138. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Can we agree – regardless of personal reasons – that skipping “the POTUS box” in the 2012 election will be tantamount to a vote FOR the current POTUS in purely mathematical terms?

    Nope.
    It’s tantamount to voting for whoever wins in Texas.

    I remain ashamed to this day of my vote for Perot

    As well you should be.

  139. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Some of you need to understand you are not going to change the mind of a box-skipper. Now whether they, in the privacy of a voting booth, can non-chalantly turn over the executive branch again to this cadre of criminals is known only to them and their maker. I for one cannot do so.

    Not that I haven’t wandered in and out of their territory and continue to do so.

    If they have truly given up I do wonder why they trouble themselves with participating in the process at all…. And following politics and occasionally commenting is part of participating in the process.

  140. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Some of you need to understand you are not going to change the mind of a box-skipper. Now whether they, in the privacy of a voting booth, can non-chalantly turn over the executive branch again to this cadre of criminals is known only to them and their maker. I for one cannot do so.
    Not that I haven’t wandered in and out of their territory and continue to do so.
    If they have truly given up I do wonder why they trouble themselves with participating in the process at all…. And following politics and occasionally commenting is part of participating in the process.

  141. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Super Dave #48;

    Hey, nice story on your #17. 😳

  142. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Super Dave #48;
    Hey, nice story on your #17. 😳

  143. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Dude #66;

    Oh, please, I’m not trying to hurt your feelings or anyone elses. In fact I made sure to insert smilies to lighten my posts. Don’t appreciate the smilies? Sheesh. 😉

    Absolutely vote your conscience. I took issue with your declaration that O’s gonna win (I say no way unless the economy drastically imrproves before November, 2012) because there’s no quality candidate. That’s absolutely not true. Why aren’t you promoting Cain if he’s your guy? Instead you’r doing exactly what Hamous pointed out: doom and gloom.

    (#62 post)

  144. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Dude #66;
    Oh, please, I’m not trying to hurt your feelings or anyone elses. In fact I made sure to insert smilies to lighten my posts. Don’t appreciate the smilies? Sheesh. 😉
    Absolutely vote your conscience. I took issue with your declaration that O’s gonna win (I say no way unless the economy drastically imrproves before November, 2012) because there’s no quality candidate. That’s absolutely not true. Why aren’t you promoting Cain if he’s your guy? Instead you’r doing exactly what Hamous pointed out: doom and gloom.
    (#62 post)

  145. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Lawrence;

    I’m fully aware of the Republican culpability in getting into the mess we’re in now. in fact I’ve said as much several times here and on Lonestar Times. But the fact is that the Republicans are workable, far more than Democrats, and they do produce excellent candidates.

    Now, could you give me your take on Justice Ginsburg retiring (definitely soon but definitely after O’s first term according to her words) NOT being a game changer/ Or will the next Republican nominate someone just as bad as her? Romney wouldn’t. Bachman wouldn’t. Cain wouldn’t. Santorum wouldn’t. Pawlenty wouldn’t. Paul? Well, who knows. Gingrich? Most likely would get someone better but not better enough. And note how I’m totally NOT a Gingrich fan.

    Now, about the primaries: how’d things turn out for Florida and Utah U.S. Senate races? What about Pennsylvania?

    Primaries definitely CAN make a difference and HAVE made a difference.

  146. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Lawrence;
    I’m fully aware of the Republican culpability in getting into the mess we’re in now. in fact I’ve said as much several times here and on Lonestar Times. But the fact is that the Republicans are workable, far more than Democrats, and they do produce excellent candidates.
    Now, could you give me your take on Justice Ginsburg retiring (definitely soon but definitely after O’s first term according to her words) NOT being a game changer/ Or will the next Republican nominate someone just as bad as her? Romney wouldn’t. Bachman wouldn’t. Cain wouldn’t. Santorum wouldn’t. Pawlenty wouldn’t. Paul? Well, who knows. Gingrich? Most likely would get someone better but not better enough. And note how I’m totally NOT a Gingrich fan.
    Now, about the primaries: how’d things turn out for Florida and Utah U.S. Senate races? What about Pennsylvania?
    Primaries definitely CAN make a difference and HAVE made a difference.

  147. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    wagon #70;

    I remain ashamed to this day of my vote for Perot

    As well you should be.

    LOL, exactly what I would have said.

  148. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    wagon #70;

    I remain ashamed to this day of my vote for Perot

    As well you should be.

    LOL, exactly what I would have said.

  149. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    That’s okay Katfish. We all have skeletons in the closet.

    In 1980 I voted for John Anderson instead of Reagan.

  150. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    That’s okay Katfish. We all have skeletons in the closet.
    In 1980 I voted for John Anderson instead of Reagan.

  151. El Gordo Avatar

    Oh, please, I’m not trying to hurt your feelings or anyone elses.

    I didn’t think you were, Darren. You don’t strike me as that kind of guy. My comment was just an attempt to inject a little levity in this discussion because, like Shannon said:

    Some of you need to understand you are not going to change the mind of a box-skipper.

    And I do still hold out hope for Cain. As it stands now, he is the guy I will vote for in the Republican primary. Yes, I do vote in the Republican primary and to be completely honest I have never skipped the box in a presidential election. Not so far anyway. That is always subject to change though.

    Still 🙂 ing!

  152. Dooood Avatar

    Oh, please, I’m not trying to hurt your feelings or anyone elses.

    I didn’t think you were, Darren. You don’t strike me as that kind of guy. My comment was just an attempt to inject a little levity in this discussion because, like Shannon said:

    Some of you need to understand you are not going to change the mind of a box-skipper.

    And I do still hold out hope for Cain. As it stands now, he is the guy I will vote for in the Republican primary. Yes, I do vote in the Republican primary and to be completely honest I have never skipped the box in a presidential election. Not so far anyway. That is always subject to change though.
    Still 🙂 ing!

  153. Hamous Avatar

    THIS is very cool in a strictly utilitarian sense.

  154. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    THIS is very cool in a strictly utilitarian sense.

  155. El Gordo Avatar

    In 1980 I voted for John Anderson instead of Reagan.

    Good lord, man! I suddenly don’t feel so bad about myself. Well, you know, at least with the one feeling I have anyway.

  156. Dooood Avatar

    In 1980 I voted for John Anderson instead of Reagan.

    Good lord, man! I suddenly don’t feel so bad about myself. Well, you know, at least with the one feeling I have anyway.

  157. Hamous Avatar

    Dooooooooooooooooooooode: I have had to hold my nose with every vote I have ever cast for pres with the exception Ronaldus Magnus. I have voted for the R every time because the D’s were such terd-nozzles I wanted to VOTE AGAINST THEM. I long for the day when I can proudly vote for the R instead of only against the D.

  158. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Dooooooooooooooooooooode: I have had to hold my nose with every vote I have ever cast for pres with the exception Ronaldus Magnus. I have voted for the R every time because the D’s were such terd-nozzles I wanted to VOTE AGAINST THEM. I long for the day when I can proudly vote for the R instead of only against the D.

  159. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Who’s John Anderson?

  160. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Who’s John Anderson?

  161. Tedtam Avatar

    This kind of behavior makes me wonder if our humanity is not as far from rabid dogs as I had hoped. Sometimes I’m ashamed to be part of the human race. This is, among other things, incredibly, incredibly sad.

    God bless those who tried to stand between pack mentality, venial desires, and the moral thing to do.

  162. Tedtam Avatar

    This kind of behavior makes me wonder if our humanity is not as far from rabid dogs as I had hoped. Sometimes I’m ashamed to be part of the human race. This is, among other things, incredibly, incredibly sad.
    God bless those who tried to stand between pack mentality, venial desires, and the moral thing to do.

  163. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    A group of 15-year-old girlfriends discussed where to meet for dinner. Finally, they agreed to meet at the Dairy Queen next to the Oceanview restaurant because they had only $6.00 among them and Jimmy Johnson, the cute boy in Social Studies, lived on that street.

    10 years later, the group of 25-year-old girlfriends discussed where to meet for dinner. Finally, they agreed to meet at the Ocean View restaurant because the beer was cheap, the restaurant offered free snacks, the band was good, there was no cover and there were lots of cute guys.

    10 years later, the group of 35-year-old girlfriends discussed where to meet for dinner. Finally, they agreed to meet at the Ocean View restaurant because the cosmos were good, it was right near the gym and, if they went late enough, there wouldn’t be too many whiny little kids.

    10 years later, the group of 45-year-old girlfriends discussed where to meet for dinner. Finally, they agreed to meet at the Ocean View restaurant because the martinis were big and the waiters had tight pants and nice buns.

    10 years later, the group of 55-year-old girlfriends discussed where to meet for dinner. Finally, they agreed to meet at the Ocean View restaurant because the prices were reasonable, the wine list was good, the restaurant had windows that opened (in case of a hot flashes), and fish is good for cholesterol.

    10 years later, the group of 65-year-old girlfriends discussed where to meet for dinner. Finally, they agreed to meet at the Ocean View restaurant because the lighting was good and the restaurant had an early bird special.

    10 years later, the group of 75-years-old girlfriends discussed where to meet for dinner. Finally, they agreed to meet at the Ocean View restaurant because the food was not too spicy and the restaurant was handicapped-accessible.

    10 years later, the group of 85-years-old girlfriends discussed where to meet for dinner. Finally, they agreed to meet at the Ocean View restaurant because they had never been there before.

  164. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    A group of 15-year-old girlfriends discussed where to meet for dinner. Finally, they agreed to meet at the Dairy Queen next to the Oceanview restaurant because they had only $6.00 among them and Jimmy Johnson, the cute boy in Social Studies, lived on that street.
    10 years later, the group of 25-year-old girlfriends discussed where to meet for dinner. Finally, they agreed to meet at the Ocean View restaurant because the beer was cheap, the restaurant offered free snacks, the band was good, there was no cover and there were lots of cute guys.
    10 years later, the group of 35-year-old girlfriends discussed where to meet for dinner. Finally, they agreed to meet at the Ocean View restaurant because the cosmos were good, it was right near the gym and, if they went late enough, there wouldn’t be too many whiny little kids.
    10 years later, the group of 45-year-old girlfriends discussed where to meet for dinner. Finally, they agreed to meet at the Ocean View restaurant because the martinis were big and the waiters had tight pants and nice buns.
    10 years later, the group of 55-year-old girlfriends discussed where to meet for dinner. Finally, they agreed to meet at the Ocean View restaurant because the prices were reasonable, the wine list was good, the restaurant had windows that opened (in case of a hot flashes), and fish is good for cholesterol.
    10 years later, the group of 65-year-old girlfriends discussed where to meet for dinner. Finally, they agreed to meet at the Ocean View restaurant because the lighting was good and the restaurant had an early bird special.
    10 years later, the group of 75-years-old girlfriends discussed where to meet for dinner. Finally, they agreed to meet at the Ocean View restaurant because the food was not too spicy and the restaurant was handicapped-accessible.
    10 years later, the group of 85-years-old girlfriends discussed where to meet for dinner. Finally, they agreed to meet at the Ocean View restaurant because they had never been there before.

  165. Hamous Avatar

    It is kind of sad that the weiner is going limp and not to be in the news anymore; he was the source of so much humor material.

  166. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    It is kind of sad that the weiner is going limp and not to be in the news anymore; he was the source of so much humor material.

  167. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #20 Hamous, #22 Oletimer

    I agree 100%.

    Me too. I will vote for the R Pres/VP ticket in 2012 knowing it will have some chance of pulling the US economy back from the edge, while another 4 years of Obammy may sink us like OBL’s corpse.

  168. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #20 Hamous, #22 Oletimer

    I agree 100%.

    Me too. I will vote for the R Pres/VP ticket in 2012 knowing it will have some chance of pulling the US economy back from the edge, while another 4 years of Obammy may sink us like OBL’s corpse.

  169. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Poor kitties.

    A Pennsylvania woman finds herself under house arrest after piercing her cats’ ears, necks and tails. After gothifying the kitties, she then listed them online for $100 each. Apparently, she thought that the minor “improvements” she made would make the felines more marketable (it’s a tough economy, right?).

    Aside from piercing the cats’ various body parts, the woman also docked their tails. In case you didn’t know, docking is a process that results in the removal of a portion of animals’ tails. The procedure is typically performed on working dogs and livestock in an effort to prevent infection (i.e. there’s typically a method behind the madness).

    Gothic Felines? Woman Pierced Cats’ Ears, Necks and Tails…to Make Them More Marketable

  170. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Poor kitties.

    A Pennsylvania woman finds herself under house arrest after piercing her cats’ ears, necks and tails. After gothifying the kitties, she then listed them online for $100 each. Apparently, she thought that the minor “improvements” she made would make the felines more marketable (it’s a tough economy, right?).
    Aside from piercing the cats’ various body parts, the woman also docked their tails. In case you didn’t know, docking is a process that results in the removal of a portion of animals’ tails. The procedure is typically performed on working dogs and livestock in an effort to prevent infection (i.e. there’s typically a method behind the madness).

    Gothic Felines? Woman Pierced Cats’ Ears, Necks and Tails…to Make Them More Marketable

  171. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Who’s John Anderson?

    Obviously you didn’t see teh moobie! He’s that guy from Apopka what sings “Swingin’”.

  172. Hamous Avatar

    Who’s John Anderson?

    Obviously you didn’t see teh moobie! He’s that guy from Apopka what sings “Swingin’”.

  173. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    #84;

    he was the source of so much humor material.

    Like “going limp”? 😉

  174. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    #84;

    he was the source of so much humor material.

    Like “going limp”? 😉

  175. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    He’s that guy from Apopka

    What’s Apopka?

  176. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    He’s that guy from Apopka

    What’s Apopka?

  177. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    A few weeks back someone posted a link to a satirical “wiki” page on Lance Berkman. Danged if I can find it now. Anyone remember that and where it was?

  178. Hamous Avatar

    A few weeks back someone posted a link to a satirical “wiki” page on Lance Berkman. Danged if I can find it now. Anyone remember that and where it was?

  179. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    OK—this might be my last chance at this, so——

    There will be Weiner presser this afternoon where he will reportedly pull out of Congress. While some may feel that Weiner was sacked by his colleagues, and die hard supporters still think this is a premature ejection, the feeling across the country is that erections have consequences. The Democrats will happy to know that this episode has reached a climax and this Weiner thing is now behind them as the constant drip, drip, drip revelations has stained their party.

    Thank you, than you. I’ll be here all week. Don’t forget to tip your waitress.

  180. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    OK—this might be my last chance at this, so——
    There will be Weiner presser this afternoon where he will reportedly pull out of Congress. While some may feel that Weiner was sacked by his colleagues, and die hard supporters still think this is a premature ejection, the feeling across the country is that erections have consequences. The Democrats will happy to know that this episode has reached a climax and this Weiner thing is now behind them as the constant drip, drip, drip revelations has stained their party.
    Thank you, than you. I’ll be here all week. Don’t forget to tip your waitress.

  181. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    John Bayard Anderson (born February 15, 1922) is a former United States Congressman and Presidential candidate from Illinois. He was a U.S. Representative from the 16th Congressional District of Illinois and an Independent candidate in the 1980 presidential election. He was previously a member of the Republican Party. He has been a political reform leader, including serving 12 years as chair of the board of FairVote.

    John B. Anderson

    John David Anderson (born December 13, 1954, in Orlando, Florida)[2] is an American country music artist with a successful career that has lasted more than 30 years. Starting in 1977 with the release of his first single, “I’ve Got a Feelin’ (Somebody’s Been Stealin’)”, Anderson has charted more than 40 singles on the Billboard country music charts, including five Number Ones: “Wild and Blue”, “Swingin’”, “Black Sheep”, “Straight Tequila Night”, and “Money in the Bank”. He has also recorded twenty-two studio albums on several labels. His newest album, Bigger Hands, was released on June 2009, on the Country Crossing label.

    Early career

    Raised in Apopka, Florida, Anderson’s first musical influences were not country artists, but rock and roll musicians such as Jimi Hendrix and The Rolling Stones.[3] He played in a rock band until the age of 15, when he discovered the music of Merle Haggard and turned to country music.[1] Anderson moved to Nashville, Tennessee, in 1971, arriving unannounced at his sister’s home, and took on odd jobs during the day – including one as a roofer at the Grand Ole Opry House – while playing in clubs during the evenings.[4]

    John Anderson (musician)

  182. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    John Bayard Anderson (born February 15, 1922) is a former United States Congressman and Presidential candidate from Illinois. He was a U.S. Representative from the 16th Congressional District of Illinois and an Independent candidate in the 1980 presidential election. He was previously a member of the Republican Party. He has been a political reform leader, including serving 12 years as chair of the board of FairVote.

    John B. Anderson

    John David Anderson (born December 13, 1954, in Orlando, Florida)[2] is an American country music artist with a successful career that has lasted more than 30 years. Starting in 1977 with the release of his first single, “I’ve Got a Feelin’ (Somebody’s Been Stealin’)”, Anderson has charted more than 40 singles on the Billboard country music charts, including five Number Ones: “Wild and Blue”, “Swingin’”, “Black Sheep”, “Straight Tequila Night”, and “Money in the Bank”. He has also recorded twenty-two studio albums on several labels. His newest album, Bigger Hands, was released on June 2009, on the Country Crossing label.
    Early career
    Raised in Apopka, Florida, Anderson’s first musical influences were not country artists, but rock and roll musicians such as Jimi Hendrix and The Rolling Stones.[3] He played in a rock band until the age of 15, when he discovered the music of Merle Haggard and turned to country music.[1] Anderson moved to Nashville, Tennessee, in 1971, arriving unannounced at his sister’s home, and took on odd jobs during the day – including one as a roofer at the Grand Ole Opry House – while playing in clubs during the evenings.[4]

    John Anderson (musician)

  183. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    What’s Apopka?

    In Seminole it means “place to eat potatoes”.

  184. Hamous Avatar

    What’s Apopka?

    In Seminole it means “place to eat potatoes”.

  185. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Sarge #91;

    I think mharper may want to reconsider that whole atheism thing. Her words from yesterday are now prophetic.

  186. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Sarge #91;
    I think mharper may want to reconsider that whole atheism thing. Her words from yesterday are now prophetic.

  187. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Hamous #93;

    Do potatoes grow in Florida? Why couldn’t they call it “a place to eat oranges”?

    I think Chicago means “stinky onions”. Figures.

  188. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Hamous #93;
    Do potatoes grow in Florida? Why couldn’t they call it “a place to eat oranges”?
    I think Chicago means “stinky onions”. Figures.

  189. El Gordo Avatar

    There’s a little boy, in our neighborhood.
    His name is Shannon Johnson, and he’s really votin’ good.

    OK, that was a real stretch. What can I say? I’m no Sarge.

    🙂

  190. Dooood Avatar

    There’s a little boy, in our neighborhood.
    His name is Shannon Johnson, and he’s really votin’ good.

    OK, that was a real stretch. What can I say? I’m no Sarge.
    🙂

  191. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #29 Dooood

    to justify me voting for them.

    At least consider the argument already presented, that your 1 vote for the R cancels out 1 zombie’s vote to keep Obammy.

  192. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #29 Dooood

    to justify me voting for them.

    At least consider the argument already presented, that your 1 vote for the R cancels out 1 zombie’s vote to keep Obammy.

  193. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Do you realize how much fun I could have had if his name had been Weiner Johnson?

  194. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Do you realize how much fun I could have had if his name had been Weiner Johnson?

  195. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Dude;

    What can I say? I’m no Sarge.

    After reading his #91, I’m very glad to hear that.

  196. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Dude;

    What can I say? I’m no Sarge.

    After reading his #91, I’m very glad to hear that.

  197. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Why couldn’t they call it “a place to eat oranges”?

    Actually Apopka is probably a Calusa word. There weren’t any oranges in Florida until the Spanish came but potatoes are a New World tuber.

  198. Hamous Avatar

    Why couldn’t they call it “a place to eat oranges”?

    Actually Apopka is probably a Calusa word. There weren’t any oranges in Florida until the Spanish came but potatoes are a New World tuber.

  199. Hamous Avatar

    #82 TT: What a great demonstration of the end result of the ultra liberal permisiveness mentality; there was no respect for property or person; they felt “entitled” to cause mayhem because their team lost the championship?!? The same crapola happens here every year after the Stuporbowl, the NBA finals, etc. – particularly in the cities where there is a “dependable Democrat majority” .
    Too bad the ones defending the properties did not have fire hoses to push the crowd back, perhaps one of these would have worked even better.

  200. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #82 TT: What a great demonstration of the end result of the ultra liberal permisiveness mentality; there was no respect for property or person; they felt “entitled” to cause mayhem because their team lost the championship?!? The same crapola happens here every year after the Stuporbowl, the NBA finals, etc. – particularly in the cities where there is a “dependable Democrat majority” .
    Too bad the ones defending the properties did not have fire hoses to push the crowd back, perhaps one of these would have worked even better.

  201. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    New World tuber.

    I saw him on the river in New Braunfels.

  202. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    New World tuber.

    I saw him on the river in New Braunfels.

  203. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #91 Sarge 😀

  204. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #91 Sarge 😀

  205. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Chicago town founded in 1833, named from a Canadian French form of an Algonquian word, either Fox /sheka:ko:heki “place of the wild onion,” or Ojibwa shika:konk “at the skunk place” (sometimes rendered “place of the bad smell”). The Ojibwa “skunk” word is distantly related to the New England Algonquian word that yielded Modern English skunk.

    I like ‘at the skunk place’ better.

  206. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Chicago town founded in 1833, named from a Canadian French form of an Algonquian word, either Fox /sheka:ko:heki “place of the wild onion,” or Ojibwa shika:konk “at the skunk place” (sometimes rendered “place of the bad smell”). The Ojibwa “skunk” word is distantly related to the New England Algonquian word that yielded Modern English skunk.

    I like ‘at the skunk place’ better.

  207. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #35 Darren

    “Staff leaving with their belongings”

    Bet those folks update their resumes by removing any mention of Weiner…

  208. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #35 Darren

    “Staff leaving with their belongings”

    Bet those folks update their resumes by removing any mention of Weiner…

  209. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    #100;

    There weren’t any oranges in Florida until the Spanish

    Huh, no kidding.

  210. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    #100;

    There weren’t any oranges in Florida until the Spanish

    Huh, no kidding.

  211. El Gordo Avatar

    Do you realize how much fun I could have had if his name had been Weiner Johnson?

    Good thing it isn’t, cuz I ain’t got a monitor squeegee.

  212. Dooood Avatar

    Do you realize how much fun I could have had if his name had been Weiner Johnson?

    Good thing it isn’t, cuz I ain’t got a monitor squeegee.

  213. El Gordo Avatar

    Weiner? Staff? Holy crap. I didn’t make that connection until just now. Better quit now before Hamous’ Granny reaches down and thrashes me soundly about the head and neck.

  214. Dooood Avatar

    Weiner? Staff? Holy crap. I didn’t make that connection until just now. Better quit now before Hamous’ Granny reaches down and thrashes me soundly about the head and neck.

  215. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    44 texanadian
    Funny!

  216. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    44 texanadian
    Funny!

  217. Katfish Avatar

    What’s Apopka?

    In Seminole it means “place to eat potatoes”.

    In Floridian it means “place of men with mullets who wear wife-beater shirts”

  218. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    What’s Apopka?

    In Seminole it means “place to eat potatoes”.

    In Floridian it means “place of men with mullets who wear wife-beater shirts”

  219. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    59 Dooood says:

    Obviously, the pain hasn’t been strong enough.

    And Lawrence nails it.

    Nope. El Gordo has it in #58.

  220. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    59 Dooood says:

    Obviously, the pain hasn’t been strong enough.
    And Lawrence nails it.

    Nope. El Gordo has it in #58.

  221. El Gordo Avatar

    Nope. El Gordo has it in #58.

    I didn’t realize it was one or the other.

  222. Dooood Avatar

    Nope. El Gordo has it in #58.

    I didn’t realize it was one or the other.

  223. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    I think Fat Albert is channeling EPJ.
    What’s wrong with fishing? I love to fish, and with any luck at all I’ll be doing a whole lot more of it in the Rocky Mountains shortly after the 2012 elections – that is, unless that wonderful group in Washington suspends all their pretenses and just flat out confiscates all our money.
    We’ve had these same conversations about the lesser of two evils since the early days of LST. You guys can rationalize it all you want but I, for one, am past all that. The Republican Party has failed you and will continue to fail you. Al Zolli wasn’t right about a lot of things, but he was/is right about that. The toooPardeedoowopoly needs an outlier event to wrest its corrupt hold on the political process.
    If you’re hoping the political class, the same class that’s responsible for making our fiscal situation exponentially worse than Greece ever dreamed of, will “turn the ship around”, then you, my friend, are sadly mistaken. Only a crisis of epic proportion, which I predict will happen, where the ability to right the ship comes under the power of others will force the government to address its outlandishly unsustainable fiscal commitment. it’s simply a matter of demographics and it’s coming as sure as the sun will rise in the east tomorrow morning.
    What are the “off balance sheet liabilities” of Medicare and Social Security, not to mention 3MCare, alone?
    80-100 TRILLION dollars perhaps? Where’s that money coming from? Somebody tell me. Somebody point out a Repuke that’s got a viable plan(not Paul Ryan) for addressing these entitlements. Anybody?
    Can’t wait to get that 6 weight back in my hands and my feet in some cool mountain stream.

  224. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Weiner just resigned. He especially thanked—-and this is no joke:

    His young volunteers who worked so long and hard for him—–

  225. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Weiner just resigned. He especially thanked—-and this is no joke:
    His young volunteers who worked so long and hard for him—–

  226. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Who’s John Anderson?

    LOL. Oh, these young’uns.

    Anderson was the independent that all the dumb twenty-five-year-olds voted for.

  227. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Who’s John Anderson?
    LOL. Oh, these young’uns.
    Anderson was the independent that all the dumb twenty-five-year-olds voted for.

  228. Hamous Avatar

    Doesn’t this just give you the warm and fuzzies?

    The hearing, “The Threat of Muslim-American Radicalization in U.S. Prisons,” was the second called by Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., to address radicalization within the Muslim American community. The first, held in March, included testimony of two family members of radicalized Muslims.

    Wednesday’s hearing focused on the threat from “Prislam,” which Downing described as an extremist “cut and paste” version of Islam practiced by inmates. The resulting ideology is what former Assistant U.S. Attorney Kevin Smith said he saw in some New Folsom prison inmates whom he prosecuted for plotting to attack Jewish targets in Los Angeles and the LAX airport.

    /HT Breitbart-Bigpeace

  229. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Doesn’t this just give you the warm and fuzzies?

    The hearing, “The Threat of Muslim-American Radicalization in U.S. Prisons,” was the second called by Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., to address radicalization within the Muslim American community. The first, held in March, included testimony of two family members of radicalized Muslims.
    Wednesday’s hearing focused on the threat from “Prislam,” which Downing described as an extremist “cut and paste” version of Islam practiced by inmates. The resulting ideology is what former Assistant U.S. Attorney Kevin Smith said he saw in some New Folsom prison inmates whom he prosecuted for plotting to attack Jewish targets in Los Angeles and the LAX airport.

    /HT Breitbart-Bigpeace

  230. El Gordo Avatar

    What are the “off balance sheet liabilities” of Medicare and Social Security, not to mention 3MCare, alone?

    80-100 TRILLION dollars perhaps? Where’s that money coming from?

    Folks, hate to be a turd in the punch bowl, but those aren’t “doom and gloom” questions. Those are reality questions. And I don’t see any serious answers – or even attempts at them – coming from Republicans.

  231. Dooood Avatar

    What are the “off balance sheet liabilities” of Medicare and Social Security, not to mention 3MCare, alone?
    80-100 TRILLION dollars perhaps? Where’s that money coming from?

    Folks, hate to be a turd in the punch bowl, but those aren’t “doom and gloom” questions. Those are reality questions. And I don’t see any serious answers – or even attempts at them – coming from Republicans.

  232. meglettx Avatar

    repuke – to puke again, repeatedly, over and over, on your constituency regardless of what you said in the campaign before the election.

    self -righteous – see LowRents

  233. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    repuke – to puke again, repeatedly, over and over, on your constituency regardless of what you said in the campaign before the election.
    self -righteous – see LowRents

  234. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    And thank goodness for New York City hecklers—

    That guy was an ARTIST I tell ya

  235. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    And thank goodness for New York City hecklers—
    That guy was an ARTIST I tell ya

  236. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Heard the Weiner resignation press conference on Rush’s show. Amazing the heckling coming form the assembled crowd. Dare we guess that some hecklers were journalists?
    Wonder what kind of deal the W cut before he gave up. Time wounds all heels, and Anthony was an arrogant mean snot in Congress and outside of it. Let us hope that is the end of him in public life. Shudder

  237. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Heard the Weiner resignation press conference on Rush’s show. Amazing the heckling coming form the assembled crowd. Dare we guess that some hecklers were journalists?
    Wonder what kind of deal the W cut before he gave up. Time wounds all heels, and Anthony was an arrogant mean snot in Congress and outside of it. Let us hope that is the end of him in public life. Shudder

  238. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Al Zolli wasn’t right about a lot of things, but he was/is right about that.

    That goombah idiot has never been right about anything. If he somehow stumbled upon some kernel of truth it was purely by accident and for all the wrong reasons.

    80-100 TRILLION dollars perhaps? Where’s that money coming from? Somebody tell me. Somebody point out a Repuke that’s got a viable plan(not Paul Ryan) for addressing these entitlements. Anybody?

    I agree they have no viable plans but let’s leave Republicans and Democrats out of it for a minute. Can you point out ANYBODY that’s got a viable plan for addressing these entitlements?

  239. Hamous Avatar

    Al Zolli wasn’t right about a lot of things, but he was/is right about that.

    That goombah idiot has never been right about anything. If he somehow stumbled upon some kernel of truth it was purely by accident and for all the wrong reasons.

    80-100 TRILLION dollars perhaps? Where’s that money coming from? Somebody tell me. Somebody point out a Repuke that’s got a viable plan(not Paul Ryan) for addressing these entitlements. Anybody?

    I agree they have no viable plans but let’s leave Republicans and Democrats out of it for a minute. Can you point out ANYBODY that’s got a viable plan for addressing these entitlements?

  240. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    CNN has just announced that Anthony Weiner has been hired to co-anchor one of their news programs. The new program will be called Weiner-Spitzer. Monica Lewinsky immediately filed a copyright infringement suit.

  241. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    CNN has just announced that Anthony Weiner has been hired to co-anchor one of their news programs. The new program will be called Weiner-Spitzer. Monica Lewinsky immediately filed a copyright infringement suit.

  242. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Anderson was the independent that all the dumb twenty-five-year-olds voted for.

    Well this dumb 26 year old voted for Reagan. 😉

  243. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Anderson was the independent that all the dumb twenty-five-year-olds voted for.

    Well this dumb 26 year old voted for Reagan. 😉

  244. Hamous Avatar

    #122 Couchmaster: Excluding Social Security and Medicare for the moment;
    1) Stop spending all money that is not specifically authorized by the C.
    2) Close those departments like education, energy, commerce, etc.
    3) repeal the IRS amendment to the C and replace with a Natl retail sales tax never to exceed 15%
    4) Repeal all other Federal taxes
    5) those under 50 forget about SS and medicare, it is gone for you.
    6) Secure the frikken borders
    7) Arrest and deport all illegal aliens whenever they are found
    8) Raid day labor sites, suspected employment places and root out the illegals where ever they are.
    9) SECURE THE FRIKKEN BORDERS
    10) Impeach and remove from office those Fed judges that refuse to enforce/interpret the C AS ORIGINALLY WRITTEN AND INTENDED

    Those 10 steps will do more to revatilize this country and the world than anything else.

  245. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #122 Couchmaster: Excluding Social Security and Medicare for the moment;
    1) Stop spending all money that is not specifically authorized by the C.
    2) Close those departments like education, energy, commerce, etc.
    3) repeal the IRS amendment to the C and replace with a Natl retail sales tax never to exceed 15%
    4) Repeal all other Federal taxes
    5) those under 50 forget about SS and medicare, it is gone for you.
    6) Secure the frikken borders
    7) Arrest and deport all illegal aliens whenever they are found
    8) Raid day labor sites, suspected employment places and root out the illegals where ever they are.
    9) SECURE THE FRIKKEN BORDERS
    10) Impeach and remove from office those Fed judges that refuse to enforce/interpret the C AS ORIGINALLY WRITTEN AND INTENDED
    Those 10 steps will do more to revatilize this country and the world than anything else.

  246. El Gordo Avatar

    Can you point out ANYBODY that’s got a viable plan for addressing these entitlements?

    In all fairness, I’m not sure there really is a viable plan. The best approach is one that would be spectacularly politically unpopular, and thus probably not really viable.

    Note: the first approach in the link is the one of which I speak being the best. The second is what we did in response to the 2008 crash. The third is what we’re headed for.

    It all comes down to courage, and it’s in short supply among politicians. I agree with the author though, that a crash won’t be as disastrous as it’s being portrayed. Ultimately, I think it’s what is going to be necessary.

  247. Dooood Avatar

    Can you point out ANYBODY that’s got a viable plan for addressing these entitlements?

    In all fairness, I’m not sure there really is a viable plan. The best approach is one that would be spectacularly politically unpopular, and thus probably not really viable.
    Note: the first approach in the link is the one of which I speak being the best. The second is what we did in response to the 2008 crash. The third is what we’re headed for.
    It all comes down to courage, and it’s in short supply among politicians. I agree with the author though, that a crash won’t be as disastrous as it’s being portrayed. Ultimately, I think it’s what is going to be necessary.

  248. meglettx Avatar

    “Can you point out ANYBODY that’s got a viable plan for addressing these entitlements?”

    You’re right. It won’t come from an R or D establishment politician. Reason enough for reasonable folks to quit supporting this system.

  249. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    “Can you point out ANYBODY that’s got a viable plan for addressing these entitlements?”
    You’re right. It won’t come from an R or D establishment politician. Reason enough for reasonable folks to quit supporting this system.

  250. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Lowrents and Doood are righteous dudes. Heck I’d let either one of ’em babysit my hot 21-year-old granddaughter.

    We just don’t see eye to eye on skipping the box.

  251. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Lowrents and Doood are righteous dudes. Heck I’d let either one of ’em babysit my hot 21-year-old granddaughter.
    We just don’t see eye to eye on skipping the box.

  252. meglettx Avatar

    Shandingo, I’m not skipping the box. My vote will be cast in 2012 – just not for One tRick Perry or most likely any other Republican nominee.

  253. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    Shandingo, I’m not skipping the box. My vote will be cast in 2012 – just not for One tRick Perry or most likely any other Republican nominee.

  254. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    To all the mid 20 year olds who voted n the 1980 presidential elections, I was still in elementary school when Reagan was elected. 🙂

  255. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Quodlibet

  256. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Quodlibet

  257. El Gordo Avatar

    Lowrents and Doood are righteous dudes. Heck I’d let either one of ‘em babysit my hot 21-year-old granddaughter.

    Word.

    So how much did you say I have to pay you to babysit?

    🙂

  258. Dooood Avatar

    Lowrents and Doood are righteous dudes. Heck I’d let either one of ‘em babysit my hot 21-year-old granddaughter.

    Word.
    So how much did you say I have to pay you to babysit?
    🙂

  259. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    MOST PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON SEEM TO THINK that we can control spending and balance the budget without reforming Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. This is lunacy.

    Identify and implement common-sense cost savings to place Medicare on a path toward long-term solvency.

    Block grant Medicare and Medicaid funds to the states, allowing them to innovate, find efficiencies and provide better service at lower cost.

    Repeal ObamaCare, as well as the failed Medicare prescription drug benefit.

    Fix Social Security by changing the escalator from being based on wage growth to inflation. It’s time for Social Security to reflect today’s realities without breaking trust with retirees.

    From Gary Johnson.

    There’s a guy for Lawrence.

  260. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    MOST PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON SEEM TO THINK that we can control spending and balance the budget without reforming Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. This is lunacy.
    Identify and implement common-sense cost savings to place Medicare on a path toward long-term solvency.
    Block grant Medicare and Medicaid funds to the states, allowing them to innovate, find efficiencies and provide better service at lower cost.
    Repeal ObamaCare, as well as the failed Medicare prescription drug benefit.
    Fix Social Security by changing the escalator from being based on wage growth to inflation. It’s time for Social Security to reflect today’s realities without breaking trust with retirees.

    From Gary Johnson.
    There’s a guy for Lawrence.

  261. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Heck I’d let either one of ‘em babysit my hot 21-year-old granddaughter.

    I’ve no doubt as to either of their character but dayam, you’re old. 🙂

  262. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Heck I’d let either one of ‘em babysit my hot 21-year-old granddaughter.

    I’ve no doubt as to either of their character but dayam, you’re old. 🙂

  263. meglettx Avatar

    Don’t bad rap Shandingo. In the words of Josey Wales:

    “…I rode with him. I got no complaints.”

  264. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    Don’t bad rap Shandingo. In the words of Josey Wales:
    “…I rode with him. I got no complaints.”

  265. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Shannon is one awseome person. Period!

  266. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Shannon is one awseome person. Period!

  267. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #130 Darren:

    To all the mid 20 year olds who voted n the 1980 presidential elections, I was still in elementary school when Reagan was elected.

    Wet behind the ears little whippersnapper!

  268. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Dude #126;

    Here’s your first approach.

    The first option is a default in expectations. Unfunded liabilities are not yet debt, as the money has not been spent. The government is therefore free to change its implicit contract with the citizenry. In other words, it can renege on its promises with regard to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. This requires a huge amount of political courage and a willingness to pay a severe price at the ballot box. As neither side of the political divide has shown any inclination toward taking the draconian measures that restoring fiscal sanity requires, there is little reason for optimism along this path.

    Doesn’t Paul Ryan’s plan call for that?

  269. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Dude #126;
    Here’s your first approach.

    The first option is a default in expectations. Unfunded liabilities are not yet debt, as the money has not been spent. The government is therefore free to change its implicit contract with the citizenry. In other words, it can renege on its promises with regard to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. This requires a huge amount of political courage and a willingness to pay a severe price at the ballot box. As neither side of the political divide has shown any inclination toward taking the draconian measures that restoring fiscal sanity requires, there is little reason for optimism along this path.

    Doesn’t Paul Ryan’s plan call for that?

  270. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Sarge is on a roll, this could last for days. 😉

  271. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Sarge is on a roll, this could last for days. 😉

  272. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Bonecrusher #137;

    Wet behind the ears little whippersnapper!

    Yup. But when a group of kids gathered together at school, jumped up and down, and shouted, “Reagan sucks, Reagan sucks, Reagan sucks,” etc., I defended Reagan despite their scandulous chants..

  273. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Bonecrusher #137;

    Wet behind the ears little whippersnapper!

    Yup. But when a group of kids gathered together at school, jumped up and down, and shouted, “Reagan sucks, Reagan sucks, Reagan sucks,” etc., I defended Reagan despite their scandulous chants..

  274. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Lowrents

    You’re right. It won’t come from an R or D establishment politician. Reason enough for reasonable folks to quit supporting this system.

    But that doesn’t answer my question. We all agree as to what the problem is. How do we fix it? I don’t see not voting for an R or D as a solution.

    Doood

    It all comes down to courage, and it’s in short supply among politicians.

    Politicians can only do something if they’re elected and they will support any position that gets them elected. Conversely they will not support a position if it won’t get them elected. For whatever reason American voters always balk at entitlement reform. I don’t think the courage problem is with the politicians. They’re nothing but poodles waiting to please us. That’s why I’m slightly heartened by the likes of Paul Ryan, Jim Demint, and Marco Rubio. They are at least willing to broach the subject.

  275. Hamous Avatar

    Lowrents

    You’re right. It won’t come from an R or D establishment politician. Reason enough for reasonable folks to quit supporting this system.

    But that doesn’t answer my question. We all agree as to what the problem is. How do we fix it? I don’t see not voting for an R or D as a solution.
    Doood

    It all comes down to courage, and it’s in short supply among politicians.

    Politicians can only do something if they’re elected and they will support any position that gets them elected. Conversely they will not support a position if it won’t get them elected. For whatever reason American voters always balk at entitlement reform. I don’t think the courage problem is with the politicians. They’re nothing but poodles waiting to please us. That’s why I’m slightly heartened by the likes of Paul Ryan, Jim Demint, and Marco Rubio. They are at least willing to broach the subject.

  276. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    You’re right. It won’t come from an R or D establishment politician. Reason enough for reasonable folks to quit supporting this system.

    Jumping ship before there’s a reasonable alternative makes about as much sense as stopping oil drilling to promote alternative energy sources.

    Tell me what or who we can vote for.

  277. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    You’re right. It won’t come from an R or D establishment politician. Reason enough for reasonable folks to quit supporting this system.

    Jumping ship before there’s a reasonable alternative makes about as much sense as stopping oil drilling to promote alternative energy sources.
    Tell me what or who we can vote for.

  278. Tedtam Avatar

    The “I don’t like the current crop of politicians so I’m taking my marbles and going home” crowd makes no sense to me.

    Be ticked off all you want. Jumping off a cliff without any alternatives isn’t a solution. Neither is pretending that not participating is going to teach any one a lesson isn’t either.

    We get what we vote for. You get nothing if you vote for nothing. Or worse, you get crap if you vote for nothing. If you want to turn your back, cross your arms, and “hrmph”, that’s your choice. Just don’t b*ch about things later.

  279. Tedtam Avatar

    The “I don’t like the current crop of politicians so I’m taking my marbles and going home” crowd makes no sense to me.
    Be ticked off all you want. Jumping off a cliff without any alternatives isn’t a solution. Neither is pretending that not participating is going to teach any one a lesson isn’t either.
    We get what we vote for. You get nothing if you vote for nothing. Or worse, you get crap if you vote for nothing. If you want to turn your back, cross your arms, and “hrmph”, that’s your choice. Just don’t b*ch about things later.

  280. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    To All,

    We are a year away from the conventions and longer from the General Election. I have seen too many cycles where the front-runners were yesterday’s news by the time of the General Election. One or two of these jokers might get “weinered” by then.

    The circus is in town.

    Simple

  281. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    To All,
    We are a year away from the conventions and longer from the General Election. I have seen too many cycles where the front-runners were yesterday’s news by the time of the General Election. One or two of these jokers might get “weinered” by then.
    The circus is in town.
    Simple

  282. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Y’all have fun for a while without me. I’m headed across the pond tomorrow (Aberdeen) and will probably not be able keep abreast about your comments regarding Palin and Bachman or your stiff opposition to congress without Wiener. While the discussions may be flacid without the Wiener story, I’m sure something else will rise to stimulate the conversation.

    Out for now.

  283. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Y’all have fun for a while without me. I’m headed across the pond tomorrow (Aberdeen) and will probably not be able keep abreast about your comments regarding Palin and Bachman or your stiff opposition to congress without Wiener. While the discussions may be flacid without the Wiener story, I’m sure something else will rise to stimulate the conversation.
    Out for now.

  284. meglettx Avatar

    Ever wonder why the government has things called “off balance sheet liabilities” anyway?

    Ever heard that term before?

    Think Kenny Boy.

    Why do we let R&D’s in Congress get away with anything but GAAP?

    How and why did “mark to market” get suspended?

    Why do R&D’s in Congress have their own retirement plan?

    Why do R&D’s in Congress have their own health plan?

    We let them.

  285. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    Ever wonder why the government has things called “off balance sheet liabilities” anyway?
    Ever heard that term before?
    Think Kenny Boy.
    Why do we let R&D’s in Congress get away with anything but GAAP?
    How and why did “mark to market” get suspended?
    Why do R&D’s in Congress have their own retirement plan?
    Why do R&D’s in Congress have their own health plan?
    We let them.

  286. meglettx Avatar

    We continued to vote for them.

  287. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    We continued to vote for them.

  288. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Just don’t b*ch about things later.

    That’s where I differ. You ALWAYS have the right to beotch. You don’t surrender that right just because you didn’t vote. If the choices are so unpalatable you can’t vote for either one what are you supposed to do? I can give one example where I will skip the box in 2012. If Rudy Tutti Fresh and Fruity is the nominee I will skip. AND I will beotch for the next four years.

  289. Hamous Avatar

    Just don’t b*ch about things later.

    That’s where I differ. You ALWAYS have the right to beotch. You don’t surrender that right just because you didn’t vote. If the choices are so unpalatable you can’t vote for either one what are you supposed to do? I can give one example where I will skip the box in 2012. If Rudy Tutti Fresh and Fruity is the nominee I will skip. AND I will beotch for the next four years.

  290. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Sen. Lee, a constitutional lawyer, beat incumbent Sen. Bob Bennett to win the 2010 Republican primary, with support from the Tea Party. He then won the general election with 62 percent of the vote to become the youngest current member of the Senate at age 39.

    A member of Congress’ Joint Economic Committee, Lee has said he and Republican Sens. Lindsey Graham and Rand Paul will be unveiling legislation to reform Social Security.

    In an exclusive interview with Newsmax.TV on Wednesday, he explains: “The basic idea is that Senators Paul and Graham and I sat down a couple of months ago.

    “We said it would be really helpful if somebody could come up with a plan that would make Social Security solvent indefinitely, or at least over the next 75 years, and to do so without raising taxes, without any change to the way benefits are calculated, or the way the benefits escalate for those who are already retired and for those who are over the age of about 56.

    “We looked at the way benefits would escalate for future retirees over time, looked at ways to gradually increase the retirement age over time, and figured out a way to make it solvent.

    Read more on Newsmax.com: Sen. Mike Lee Says He’ll Vote Against Budget Bill
    Important: Do You Support Pres. Obama’s Re-Election? Vote Here Now!

    Don’t know exactly what the plan is/was but two out of these three fols are good folks.

    Sen. Mike Lee Says He’ll Vote Against Budget Bill

    Sen. Mike Lee Says He’ll Vote Against Budget Bill

  291. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Sen. Lee, a constitutional lawyer, beat incumbent Sen. Bob Bennett to win the 2010 Republican primary, with support from the Tea Party. He then won the general election with 62 percent of the vote to become the youngest current member of the Senate at age 39.
    A member of Congress’ Joint Economic Committee, Lee has said he and Republican Sens. Lindsey Graham and Rand Paul will be unveiling legislation to reform Social Security.
    In an exclusive interview with Newsmax.TV on Wednesday, he explains: “The basic idea is that Senators Paul and Graham and I sat down a couple of months ago.
    “We said it would be really helpful if somebody could come up with a plan that would make Social Security solvent indefinitely, or at least over the next 75 years, and to do so without raising taxes, without any change to the way benefits are calculated, or the way the benefits escalate for those who are already retired and for those who are over the age of about 56.
    “We looked at the way benefits would escalate for future retirees over time, looked at ways to gradually increase the retirement age over time, and figured out a way to make it solvent.
    Read more on Newsmax.com: Sen. Mike Lee Says He’ll Vote Against Budget Bill
    Important: Do You Support Pres. Obama’s Re-Election? Vote Here Now!

    Don’t know exactly what the plan is/was but two out of these three fols are good folks.
    Sen. Mike Lee Says He’ll Vote Against Budget Bill
    Sen. Mike Lee Says He’ll Vote Against Budget Bill

  292. meglettx Avatar

    Hey TT, when you vote for crap, you get crap.

    I’ll bitch all I want until I can’t bitch any more(get banned).

  293. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    Hey TT, when you vote for crap, you get crap.
    I’ll bitch all I want until I can’t bitch any more(get banned).

  294. El Gordo Avatar

    I don’t think the courage problem is with the politicians. They’re nothing but poodles waiting to please us. That’s why I’m slightly heartened by the likes of Paul Ryan, Jim Demint, and Marco Rubio. They are at least willing to broach the subject.

    I see what you mean there, but courage isn’t doing something you think that can be sold to voters. Courage is doing something unpopular because you think it’s the right thing to do. Of course if you put forth those unpopular thoughts about what to do, you’ll probably never get the chance to do the right thing. It really is a catch 22.

    As you know, I too am somewhat heartened by Ryan, Demint and Rubio. As much of a tightwad as I am, the fact that I sent all three of those guys money prior to the 2010 election speaks volumes. And here we’re talking about congress-critters, not presidential candidates. Which is where fiscal reform efforts really do need to be focused. I’d be really happy with Obama having a lame duck second term.

  295. Dooood Avatar

    I don’t think the courage problem is with the politicians. They’re nothing but poodles waiting to please us. That’s why I’m slightly heartened by the likes of Paul Ryan, Jim Demint, and Marco Rubio. They are at least willing to broach the subject.

    I see what you mean there, but courage isn’t doing something you think that can be sold to voters. Courage is doing something unpopular because you think it’s the right thing to do. Of course if you put forth those unpopular thoughts about what to do, you’ll probably never get the chance to do the right thing. It really is a catch 22.
    As you know, I too am somewhat heartened by Ryan, Demint and Rubio. As much of a tightwad as I am, the fact that I sent all three of those guys money prior to the 2010 election speaks volumes. And here we’re talking about congress-critters, not presidential candidates. Which is where fiscal reform efforts really do need to be focused. I’d be really happy with Obama having a lame duck second term.

  296. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I’d be really happy with Obama having a lame duck second term.

    I wouldn’t be suicidal, but I wouldn’t be “really happy” either, as long as the Dems don’t control congress.

  297. Hamous Avatar

    I’d be really happy with Obama having a lame duck second term.

    I wouldn’t be suicidal, but I wouldn’t be “really happy” either, as long as the Dems don’t control congress.

  298. Katfish Avatar

    You’re right. It won’t come from an R or D establishment politician. Reason enough for reasonable folks to quit supporting this system.

    Thing is a third-party person won’t have any troops to rally, because they would have no reason to support him.

    Why do we let R&D’s in Congress get away with anything but GAAP?

    “We” keep electing people who don’t want to be constrained by sound fiscal discipline.

    The biggest reason “we” don’t throw them out on their collective ear is that “we” are like kids. “We” want more than we deserve or is good for us to have and “we” have really short attention spans and “we” care more about who’s winning American Idol or what’s going on with that trial in Florida right now than “we” do about what’s going on in our government.

  299. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    You’re right. It won’t come from an R or D establishment politician. Reason enough for reasonable folks to quit supporting this system.

    Thing is a third-party person won’t have any troops to rally, because they would have no reason to support him.

    Why do we let R&D’s in Congress get away with anything but GAAP?

    “We” keep electing people who don’t want to be constrained by sound fiscal discipline.
    The biggest reason “we” don’t throw them out on their collective ear is that “we” are like kids. “We” want more than we deserve or is good for us to have and “we” have really short attention spans and “we” care more about who’s winning American Idol or what’s going on with that trial in Florida right now than “we” do about what’s going on in our government.

  300. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    We are not amused!

  301. Hamous Avatar

    We are not amused!

  302. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Now see here, I’m not old enuff to have a 21 year old Granddaughter. (well okay maybe so).
    She came with the wedding ring.

    I’ll be sure and tell the wife what you said, though. 🙂

  303. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Now see here, I’m not old enuff to have a 21 year old Granddaughter. (well okay maybe so).
    She came with the wedding ring.
    I’ll be sure and tell the wife what you said, though. 🙂

  304. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #128 – If you have a 21 year old granddaughter (hot or even lukewarm) then I’m Donald friggin Trump!

    🙂

  305. Katfish Avatar

    #128 – If you have a 21 year old granddaughter (hot or even lukewarm) then I’m Donald friggin Trump!
    🙂

  306. El Gordo Avatar

    Let’s not get all wee-wee’d up now.

  307. Dooood Avatar

    Let’s not get all wee-wee’d up now.

  308. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Dang, too soon.

  309. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Dang, too soon.

  310. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I’ll be sure and tell the wife what you said, though.

    I’m in deep caca now. 😯

  311. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I’ll be sure and tell the wife what you said, though.

    I’m in deep caca now. 😯

  312. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Hehe, Lawrence called himself a b*tch. 🙂

  313. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Hehe, Lawrence called himself a b*tch. 🙂

  314. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #160………………Yes you surely ARE!

    *snikker*

  315. Katfish Avatar

    #160………………Yes you surely ARE!
    *snikker*

  316. meglettx Avatar

    I come by it naturally. My paternal grandmother is a 96 year old Czech woman who has done that at a level I would consider professional since I was old enough to remember. But other than that, she sure loves her oldest grandson.

  317. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    I come by it naturally. My paternal grandmother is a 96 year old Czech woman who has done that at a level I would consider professional since I was old enough to remember. But other than that, she sure loves her oldest grandson.

  318. meglettx Avatar

    Full moon was yesterday.

    Figures.

  319. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    Full moon was yesterday.
    Figures.

  320. meglettx Avatar

    Someone ought to do a study about blog post numbers correlation with moon phases.

  321. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    Someone ought to do a study about blog post numbers correlation with moon phases.

  322. El Gordo Avatar

    Someone ought to do a study about blog post numbers correlation with moon phases.

    You get me some gubmint grant benjamins and I’ll start researchin’ ASAP.

  323. Dooood Avatar

    Someone ought to do a study about blog post numbers correlation with moon phases.

    You get me some gubmint grant benjamins and I’ll start researchin’ ASAP.

  324. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #100 Hammy

    potatoes are a New World tuber

    That doesn’t mean they had them in Florida before the Europeans came. As I recall, potato cultivation originated in South America. Same with tomatoes. Where would the Irish and the Italians be today if Columbus had not discovered America? 🙂

  325. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    That there primary election can prove itself yet again.

    Exclusive: FreedomWorks will make Orrin Hatch first 2012 target

    That was a big reason Bob Bennett was bounced off.

    It’s official: Utah Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch is the first Republican incumbent who will be targeted by one of the nation’s most influential Tea Party-aligned organizations.

    FreedomWorks PAC plans to launch a “Retire Orrin Hatch” campaign at the Utah Republican Convention this Saturday, the group’s first major move of the 2012 congressional cycle, The Daily Caller has learned.

    The group says targeting Hatch is symbolic. It signals the beginning of the next wave of Tea Party activists working to replace Republican incumbents they see as too moderate and out of sync with a movement stressing fiscal conservatism.

    Hatch is well aware of the threat he faces from Tea Party groups and has made an attempt at stopping this from happening. He visited the D.C. offices of FreedomWorks earlier this year to mingle with the staff during an office party.

    “He has reached out to us a lot this year. Orrin Hatch is a nice guy,” Walker said. “He really genuinely is a nice guy…but at the end of the day, I think the state of Utah could do better.”

    Not only that but Hatch will go all out to counter Freedomworks’ opposition to him. He’s no dummy; he knows that their opposition will threaten his reelection.

  326. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #100 Hammy

    potatoes are a New World tuber

    That doesn’t mean they had them in Florida before the Europeans came. As I recall, potato cultivation originated in South America. Same with tomatoes. Where would the Irish and the Italians be today if Columbus had not discovered America? 🙂

  327. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    That there primary election can prove itself yet again.
    Exclusive: FreedomWorks will make Orrin Hatch first 2012 target
    That was a big reason Bob Bennett was bounced off.

    It’s official: Utah Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch is the first Republican incumbent who will be targeted by one of the nation’s most influential Tea Party-aligned organizations.
    FreedomWorks PAC plans to launch a “Retire Orrin Hatch” campaign at the Utah Republican Convention this Saturday, the group’s first major move of the 2012 congressional cycle, The Daily Caller has learned.
    The group says targeting Hatch is symbolic. It signals the beginning of the next wave of Tea Party activists working to replace Republican incumbents they see as too moderate and out of sync with a movement stressing fiscal conservatism.

    Hatch is well aware of the threat he faces from Tea Party groups and has made an attempt at stopping this from happening. He visited the D.C. offices of FreedomWorks earlier this year to mingle with the staff during an office party.
    “He has reached out to us a lot this year. Orrin Hatch is a nice guy,” Walker said. “He really genuinely is a nice guy…but at the end of the day, I think the state of Utah could do better.”

    Not only that but Hatch will go all out to counter Freedomworks’ opposition to him. He’s no dummy; he knows that their opposition will threaten his reelection.

  328. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    mharper #167;

    Where would the Irish and the Italians be today if Columbus had not discovered America?

    Probably still in Ireland and Italy respectively. 😉

  329. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    mharper #167;

    Where would the Irish and the Italians be today if Columbus had not discovered America?

    Probably still in Ireland and Italy respectively. 😉

  330. Hamous Avatar

    #158: Darren had a premature —culation.
    /heh

  331. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #158: Darren had a premature —culation.
    /heh

  332. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Lawrence #163;

    Nobody matches Mrs. Darren. And I sure do love her. She’s actually doing something womanly right now. That would be sewing. I’m doing the manly thing right now and saving the world one blog post at a time.

  333. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Lawrence #163;
    Nobody matches Mrs. Darren. And I sure do love her. She’s actually doing something womanly right now. That would be sewing. I’m doing the manly thing right now and saving the world one blog post at a time.

  334. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I got post #200!

  335. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I got post #200!

  336. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Bonecrusher #170;

    Dang, it happened again. 🙁

    (HAL Jr. wouldn’t let me repost “200!” again. Está muy listo este monstruo.)

  337. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Bonecrusher #170;
    Dang, it happened again. 🙁
    (HAL Jr. wouldn’t let me repost “200!” again. Está muy listo este monstruo.)

  338. Tedtam Avatar

    Let me rephrase the B*ch comment: Yes, you have the right to “complain”. I don’t understand why the “take marbles go home” crowd can’t find ANYTHING worth voting for in the Obama opposition lineup. And not voting for the Obpposition only helps TBO stay in office.

    I’m all for the slow slide if that’s what it takes. We’ll have a little longer to grab the lifeline, if there’s going to be one. Like I said, a grilled cheese sandwich is better than what we have.

  339. Tedtam Avatar

    Let me rephrase the B*ch comment: Yes, you have the right to “complain”. I don’t understand why the “take marbles go home” crowd can’t find ANYTHING worth voting for in the Obama opposition lineup. And not voting for the Obpposition only helps TBO stay in office.
    I’m all for the slow slide if that’s what it takes. We’ll have a little longer to grab the lifeline, if there’s going to be one. Like I said, a grilled cheese sandwich is better than what we have.

  340. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    As I recall, potato cultivation originated in South America.

    There’s a theory (because of language similarities) that the Timucuan Indians of Florida were immigrants from South America. That could explain the “potato eating place”.

  341. Hamous Avatar

    As I recall, potato cultivation originated in South America.

    There’s a theory (because of language similarities) that the Timucuan Indians of Florida were immigrants from South America. That could explain the “potato eating place”.

  342. El Gordo Avatar

    Like I said, a grilled cheese sandwich is better than what we have.

    Make you a deal, Tedtam. You get a grilled cheese sandwich nominated for the Republican presidential ticket and I’ll vote for it. Otherwise, I’ll likely vote for Cain in the primary and we’ll see what happens in the general. As already discussed, fiscal reform will be accomplished in the legislative branch, not the executive. I’ll focus my participatory efforts where I feel they’ll bear the most fruit. The Obama is da debbil routine just doesn’t do it for me.

    YMMV of course

  343. Dooood Avatar

    Like I said, a grilled cheese sandwich is better than what we have.

    Make you a deal, Tedtam. You get a grilled cheese sandwich nominated for the Republican presidential ticket and I’ll vote for it. Otherwise, I’ll likely vote for Cain in the primary and we’ll see what happens in the general. As already discussed, fiscal reform will be accomplished in the legislative branch, not the executive. I’ll focus my participatory efforts where I feel they’ll bear the most fruit. The Obama is da debbil routine just doesn’t do it for me.
    YMMV of course

  344. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I figure the day I loaned her tuition money is the day she became MY granddaughter, too.

  345. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I figure the day I loaned her tuition money is the day she became MY granddaughter, too.

  346. Katfish Avatar

    That could explain the “potato eating place”.

    Or they had really good fries.

  347. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    That could explain the “potato eating place”.

    Or they had really good fries.

  348. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #94 Darren

    Her words from yesterday are now prophetic.

    Nah. Pyro clued me in about Rule 34. So now I will never be surprised again. 🙂

  349. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #94 Darren

    Her words from yesterday are now prophetic.

    Nah. Pyro clued me in about Rule 34. So now I will never be surprised again. 🙂

  350. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    SCOTUS appointments should be a concern. We can’t vote them out. With Barry we knew there was 0% chance of having a constitutionalist appointed. He’s already appointed two screaming liberals. There was at least a 50% chance Cranky would have appointed two constitutionalist judges. The balance could have been tipped for a generation. Look back at all the rulings Kennedy tipped in favor of the usurpers. Can you honestly say you know for a fact we would have been in the same boat?

  351. Hamous Avatar

    SCOTUS appointments should be a concern. We can’t vote them out. With Barry we knew there was 0% chance of having a constitutionalist appointed. He’s already appointed two screaming liberals. There was at least a 50% chance Cranky would have appointed two constitutionalist judges. The balance could have been tipped for a generation. Look back at all the rulings Kennedy tipped in favor of the usurpers. Can you honestly say you know for a fact we would have been in the same boat?

  352. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    181
    There you go again.

  353. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    181
    There you go again.

  354. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #122 Hammy

    Can you point out ANYBODY that’s got a viable plan for addressing these entitlements?

    The programs will have to be ended. Haven’t we known all our working lives that SS would not be there when we reached retirement age?

  355. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #122 Hammy

    Can you point out ANYBODY that’s got a viable plan for addressing these entitlements?

    The programs will have to be ended. Haven’t we known all our working lives that SS would not be there when we reached retirement age?

  356. Hamous Avatar

    Weiner’s power has been circumcised and his testicles are now in Huma’s lockbox.

  357. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Weiner’s power has been circumcised and his testicles are now in Huma’s lockbox.

  358. Katfish Avatar

    #182 shannon
    He’s a pushover for the toopardydooopoly.

  359. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #182 shannon
    He’s a pushover for the toopardydooopoly.

  360. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #128 Shannon

    Heck I’d let either one of ‘em babysit my hot 21-year-old granddaughter.

    Huh?? How come your 21-year-old granddaughter needs a babysitter?

  361. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #128 Shannon

    Heck I’d let either one of ‘em babysit my hot 21-year-old granddaughter.

    Huh?? How come your 21-year-old granddaughter needs a babysitter?

  362. El Gordo Avatar

    SCOTUS appointments should be a concern.

    Of the concerns I consistently hear about not voting for a Republican president, that is about the only one I can honestly say does give me some pause. Enough to vote for a Romney or a McCain next-in-line type because they’re not Obama? Meh… probably not. But a valid point nonetheless.

  363. Dooood Avatar

    SCOTUS appointments should be a concern.

    Of the concerns I consistently hear about not voting for a Republican president, that is about the only one I can honestly say does give me some pause. Enough to vote for a Romney or a McCain next-in-line type because they’re not Obama? Meh… probably not. But a valid point nonetheless.

  364. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    181
    You just don’t get it do you?

    There is only one honorable path:
    1) wait for some true conservative political messiah (who is apparently waiting in the wings)

    And 2) hasten the destruction of the country so we can start over and fix it sooner
    ’cause THAT’LL teach the bastidges

    Sarc off

  365. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    181
    You just don’t get it do you?
    There is only one honorable path:
    1) wait for some true conservative political messiah (who is apparently waiting in the wings)
    And 2) hasten the destruction of the country so we can start over and fix it sooner
    ’cause THAT’LL teach the bastidges
    Sarc off

  366. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    That doesn’t mean they had them in Florida before the Europeans came. As I recall, potato cultivation originated in South America.

    Hammie obviously had a case of premature cultivation.

  367. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    That doesn’t mean they had them in Florida before the Europeans came. As I recall, potato cultivation originated in South America.

    Hammie obviously had a case of premature cultivation.

  368. meglettx Avatar

    This is gonna go over like a turd in the punch bowl:

    I hope Sarah Palin runs as an independent sans the One tRick Perry. It would be even better if it was AGAINST the One tRick Perry and the marxist Muslim Mulatto.

    What a fantasy!

  369. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    This is gonna go over like a turd in the punch bowl:
    I hope Sarah Palin runs as an independent sans the One tRick Perry. It would be even better if it was AGAINST the One tRick Perry and the marxist Muslim Mulatto.
    What a fantasy!

  370. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    158 Darren says:
    June 16, 2011 at 3:25 pm
    200!

    Good thing Darren isn’t a math teacher…

  371. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    158 Darren says:
    June 16, 2011 at 3:25 pm
    200!

    Good thing Darren isn’t a math teacher…

  372. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    191
    Perhaps he was just rooting us on?

  373. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    191
    Perhaps he was just rooting us on?

  374. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #169 Darren

    Probably still in Ireland and Italy respectively

    Most of the Irish left Ireland after the Potato Famine. They could not sustain average family size of 15 w/o the potato. Think of all the Italian dishes that never would have been invented w/o tomato sauce.

  375. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #169 Darren

    Probably still in Ireland and Italy respectively

    Most of the Irish left Ireland after the Potato Famine. They could not sustain average family size of 15 w/o the potato. Think of all the Italian dishes that never would have been invented w/o tomato sauce.

  376. El Gordo Avatar

    There is only one honorable path:
    1) wait for some true conservative political messiah (who is apparently waiting in the wings)

    And 2) hasten the destruction of the country so we can start over and fix it sooner
    ’cause THAT’LL teach the bastidges

    I knew we could get your mind right if we just kept at it long enough.

    🙂

  377. Dooood Avatar

    There is only one honorable path:
    1) wait for some true conservative political messiah (who is apparently waiting in the wings)
    And 2) hasten the destruction of the country so we can start over and fix it sooner
    ’cause THAT’LL teach the bastidges

    I knew we could get your mind right if we just kept at it long enough.
    🙂

  378. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #192 Shannon

    Perhaps he was just rooting us on?

    Nah, Darren doesn’t know anything about tubers…
    🙂

  379. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #192 Shannon

    Perhaps he was just rooting us on?

    Nah, Darren doesn’t know anything about tubers…
    🙂

  380. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    186
    She doesn’t need babysitting. I’ll change to “let them stay overnight in a hotel with her”.
    Wait a sec. Let me think about this for a minute.

  381. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    186
    She doesn’t need babysitting. I’ll change to “let them stay overnight in a hotel with her”.
    Wait a sec. Let me think about this for a minute.

  382. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    195
    Caught that didya? I always knew you were a sharpie.

  383. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    195
    Caught that didya? I always knew you were a sharpie.

  384. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #175 Hammy

    Timucuan Indians of Florida were immigrants from South America.

    I’ll have to look into that sometime. The potato was discovered on the Andean side of South America, so that was quite a journey unless it was done in the 1950s.

  385. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #175 Hammy

    Timucuan Indians of Florida were immigrants from South America.

    I’ll have to look into that sometime. The potato was discovered on the Andean side of South America, so that was quite a journey unless it was done in the 1950s.

  386. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Darren darren Darren darren…

  387. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Darren darren Darren darren…

  388. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    200

  389. Hamous Avatar

    And the Bonecrusher usurps the coveted dos ciento – BITCHIN!

  390. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    And the Bonecrusher usurps the coveted dos ciento – BITCHIN!

  391. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    As usual, Hammie’s full of it.
    Algore invented potatoes.

  392. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    As usual, Hammie’s full of it.
    Algore invented potatoes.

  393. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    300 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  394. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    300 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  395. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Doood doooood doooood

  396. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Doood doooood doooood

  397. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Speaking of spuds, I’m off to grab some grub. For a change, the man of the house picked up some sammiches while he was out puttering around this afternoon.

    Hammy, let us know if you need to take up a collection for more disk space when we have Couch days like today. (Preferably Paypal.)

  398. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Speaking of spuds, I’m off to grab some grub. For a change, the man of the house picked up some sammiches while he was out puttering around this afternoon.
    Hammy, let us know if you need to take up a collection for more disk space when we have Couch days like today. (Preferably Paypal.)

  399. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    #200;

    GJB = Good Job Bonecrusher. 🙂

  400. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    #200;
    GJB = Good Job Bonecrusher. 🙂

  401. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I got back from the store and the debit card was not working. I hate having doctor bills and saving up for a trip.

  402. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I got back from the store and the debit card was not working. I hate having doctor bills and saving up for a trip.

  403. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Shannon #203;

    That’s the spirit, laddy.

    /Still watching my back for Mrs. Shannon. 😯

  404. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Shannon #203;
    That’s the spirit, laddy.
    /Still watching my back for Mrs. Shannon. 😯

  405. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    168 Darren,

    I can remember when Orrin Hatch and Alan Simpson were the leaders of the Conservative Wing of the Republican Party.

    I still respect and like both men. I cannot vote for Senator Hatch and his election is a matter for the Utah voters. I can understand political differences, but IMHO the man deserves a lot more respect than he is getting.

    Simple

  406. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    168 Darren,
    I can remember when Orrin Hatch and Alan Simpson were the leaders of the Conservative Wing of the Republican Party.
    I still respect and like both men. I cannot vote for Senator Hatch and his election is a matter for the Utah voters. I can understand political differences, but IMHO the man deserves a lot more respect than he is getting.
    Simple

  407. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    With all this talk of grilled cheese, I want a grilled cheese sandwich but there’s no bread in the house. 🙁

  408. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    With all this talk of grilled cheese, I want a grilled cheese sandwich but there’s no bread in the house. 🙁

  409. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Simple #209;

    but IMHO the man deserves a lot more respect than he is getting.

    Overall Hatch has a good record, it’s just some key issues that bug me about him. Hatch is the epitomy of why Dude and Lawrence won’t vote Republican.

  410. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Simple #209;

    but IMHO the man deserves a lot more respect than he is getting.

    Overall Hatch has a good record, it’s just some key issues that bug me about him. Hatch is the epitomy of why Dude and Lawrence won’t vote Republican.

  411. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    203 Shannon says:
    June 16, 2011 at 5:10 pm

    300 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Clearly a case of premature numeration

  412. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    203 Shannon says:
    June 16, 2011 at 5:10 pm
    300 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Clearly a case of premature numeration

  413. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I can remember when Orrin Hatch and Alan Simpson were the leaders of the Conservative Wing of the Republican Party.

    I still respect and like both…..

    Well that explains a helluva lot.

  414. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    I can remember when Orrin Hatch and Alan Simpson were the leaders of the Conservative Wing of the Republican Party.
    I still respect and like both…..

    Well that explains a helluva lot.

  415. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    And the Bonecrusher usurps the coveted dos ciento doscientos – BITCHIN!

    De nada.

  416. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    And the Bonecrusher usurps the coveted dos ciento doscientos – BITCHIN!

    De nada.

  417. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Sarge #212;

    That’s a matter between Shannon and Mrs. Shannon. Come on now, let’s play outside.

  418. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Sarge #212;
    That’s a matter between Shannon and Mrs. Shannon. Come on now, let’s play outside.

  419. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    This is Open Comments, right?
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    …. OK, yes, it is. <>

  420. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    This is Open Comments, right?
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    …. OK, yes, it is. <>

  421. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Mrs Shannon somehow produces an unparalleled grilled cheese. I’ll ask her for three, here in minute….and a beer. THEN I’ll tell her what you said about her. 🙂

  422. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Mrs Shannon somehow produces an unparalleled grilled cheese. I’ll ask her for three, here in minute….and a beer. THEN I’ll tell her what you said about her. 🙂

  423. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I’ve updated the traditional method of making grilled cheese sammiches. I can never get the correct consistency of melted cheese or toasting of the bread that dear old mom used to make using a frying pan or grill. So I make two slices of toast, then I butter them up real good, put the cheese in between and nuke it for 30 seconds.

    Works like a charm.

  424. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I’ve updated the traditional method of making grilled cheese sammiches. I can never get the correct consistency of melted cheese or toasting of the bread that dear old mom used to make using a frying pan or grill. So I make two slices of toast, then I butter them up real good, put the cheese in between and nuke it for 30 seconds.
    Works like a charm.

  425. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    It was Bonecrusher yesterday who compared the gun running opperation into Mexico with the Iran-Contra affair. Well, here’s for being observant.

    On December 14, 2010, a special unit of the U.S. Border Patrol came across a group of heavily armed suspects near Rio Rico, Arizona. The Border Patrol team identified themselves as law enforcement officers, at which point the armed men open fire. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was hit in the pelvis by a single bullet and died the next morning. One of the suspects was captured, and two AK-pattern semiautomatic rifles recovered at the scene were identified by serial number as weapons that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) — acting in concert with and with the blessing of the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) — allowed weapons smugglers to purchase at U.S. gun shops. The weapons were just two of more than 2,000 firearms that ATF supervisors and the highest levels of DOJ management allowed to be “walked” across the border to narco-terrorist drug cartels in Mexico, in a scandal that promises to be more damning and deadly than Iran-Contra.

    And the showdown…

    The House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform is holding hearings this week on Gunwalker, and seems to be squaring up for a political duel with the Obama administration, which is seeking to block all access to official information about the operation. To date, the information collected by the committee has come from ATF whisteblowers, agents inside the operation who fought against senior government officials who were “giddy” over the death and violence from the roughly 2000+ weapons that they allowed smugglers to take across the border — weapons that seemed to be raising the body count in what was arguably becoming a Mexican civil war.

    The Definitive Scandal: ‘Gunwalker’ Much Worse Than ‘Iran-Contra’

  426. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    It was Bonecrusher yesterday who compared the gun running opperation into Mexico with the Iran-Contra affair. Well, here’s for being observant.

    On December 14, 2010, a special unit of the U.S. Border Patrol came across a group of heavily armed suspects near Rio Rico, Arizona. The Border Patrol team identified themselves as law enforcement officers, at which point the armed men open fire. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was hit in the pelvis by a single bullet and died the next morning. One of the suspects was captured, and two AK-pattern semiautomatic rifles recovered at the scene were identified by serial number as weapons that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) — acting in concert with and with the blessing of the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) — allowed weapons smugglers to purchase at U.S. gun shops. The weapons were just two of more than 2,000 firearms that ATF supervisors and the highest levels of DOJ management allowed to be “walked” across the border to narco-terrorist drug cartels in Mexico, in a scandal that promises to be more damning and deadly than Iran-Contra.

    And the showdown…

    The House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform is holding hearings this week on Gunwalker, and seems to be squaring up for a political duel with the Obama administration, which is seeking to block all access to official information about the operation. To date, the information collected by the committee has come from ATF whisteblowers, agents inside the operation who fought against senior government officials who were “giddy” over the death and violence from the roughly 2000+ weapons that they allowed smugglers to take across the border — weapons that seemed to be raising the body count in what was arguably becoming a Mexican civil war.

    The Definitive Scandal: ‘Gunwalker’ Much Worse Than ‘Iran-Contra’

  427. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    THEN I’ll tell her what you said about her.

    Can she have a few beers with you before telling her?

  428. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    THEN I’ll tell her what you said about her.

    Can she have a few beers with you before telling her?

  429. El Gordo Avatar

    So I make two slices of toast, then I butter them up real good, put the cheese in between and nuke it for 30 seconds.

    Mrs. Dude saw me doing that one time. I like it just fine, but from her reaction youda thunk I was some kinda Godless heathen or somethin’.

  430. Dooood Avatar

    So I make two slices of toast, then I butter them up real good, put the cheese in between and nuke it for 30 seconds.

    Mrs. Dude saw me doing that one time. I like it just fine, but from her reaction youda thunk I was some kinda Godless heathen or somethin’.

  431. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Sarge;

    One of the few yet to be reformed diet routines (though I now do this far less frequently) I have is to butter the iron skillet, then the bread, both inside and out, place one piece of bread with the cheese on one end of the skillet, crack one or two eggs on the other end and before they are fully cooked (still uicy), place them on top of the cheese and put the remaining bread piece on top. Finish grilling and I have one messy and yummy sandwhich.

  432. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Sarge;
    One of the few yet to be reformed diet routines (though I now do this far less frequently) I have is to butter the iron skillet, then the bread, both inside and out, place one piece of bread with the cheese on one end of the skillet, crack one or two eggs on the other end and before they are fully cooked (still uicy), place them on top of the cheese and put the remaining bread piece on top. Finish grilling and I have one messy and yummy sandwhich.

  433. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    youda thunk I was some kinda Godless heathen or somethin’.

    ‘Bout time she learned the truth. 😉

  434. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    youda thunk I was some kinda Godless heathen or somethin’.

    ‘Bout time she learned the truth. 😉

  435. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    And I’m sure MSNBC was all to delighted to report this.

    Google image search can’t tell Obama from Bush

  436. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    And I’m sure MSNBC was all to delighted to report this.
    Google image search can’t tell Obama from Bush

  437. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Another shiny example of how hateful rhetoric “always comes from the right”.

    NJ Union Leader: ‘It’s Going to Take World War III to Get Rid of Adolph Christie’

  438. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Another shiny example of how hateful rhetoric “always comes from the right”.
    NJ Union Leader: ‘It’s Going to Take World War III to Get Rid of Adolph Christie’

  439. El Gordo Avatar

    ‘Bout time she learned the truth.

    I’m just glad she doesn’t read this blog. She’s one of you “lesser of two evils” voters and I really have no desire to have this debate at home in person, live, in glorious technicolor surround sound splendor. And then there’s the Shannon’s granddaughter thing. Oh no. Don’t go there.

    🙂

  440. Dooood Avatar

    ‘Bout time she learned the truth.

    I’m just glad she doesn’t read this blog. She’s one of you “lesser of two evils” voters and I really have no desire to have this debate at home in person, live, in glorious technicolor surround sound splendor. And then there’s the Shannon’s granddaughter thing. Oh no. Don’t go there.
    🙂

  441. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Aha! He’s laid out his Achilles heel like a table full of grilled cheeses and beer!!!!

  442. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Aha! He’s laid out his Achilles heel like a table full of grilled cheeses and beer!!!!

  443. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #194 –

    I knew we could get your mind right if we just kept at it long enough.

    Dooooodski! You musta missed a memo! Good ole Tim Leary had Sha-Na-Na’s mind ‘right’ decades ago!!!

    BwaaahahahahahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

  444. Katfish Avatar

    #194 –

    I knew we could get your mind right if we just kept at it long enough.

    Dooooodski! You musta missed a memo! Good ole Tim Leary had Sha-Na-Na’s mind ‘right’ decades ago!!!
    BwaaahahahahahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

  445. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Hmmmmm. What goes round comes around.

    Remembah that, Grasshoppah (Darren)

  446. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Hmmmmm. What goes round comes around.
    Remembah that, Grasshoppah (Darren)

  447. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #217 –

    THEN I’ll tell her what you said about her. 🙂

    Um………………….how much you offering for me NOT to call her before she cooks????

    huh?

    HUH???

  448. Katfish Avatar

    #217 –

    THEN I’ll tell her what you said about her. 🙂

    Um………………….how much you offering for me NOT to call her before she cooks????
    huh?
    HUH???

  449. Tedtam Avatar

    Okay, I don’t unnerstan’ why makin’ a grilled cheese sammich is so hard for you guys.

    Now, a grilled PB&J – that’s a little tricky, but deee-lish!

    I forgot how much I enjoyed Pandora radio…I’ve set up a Gordon Lightfoot-like station. It helps me work. Speaking of…

  450. Tedtam Avatar

    Okay, I don’t unnerstan’ why makin’ a grilled cheese sammich is so hard for you guys.
    Now, a grilled PB&J – that’s a little tricky, but deee-lish!
    I forgot how much I enjoyed Pandora radio…I’ve set up a Gordon Lightfoot-like station. It helps me work. Speaking of…

  451. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Dang, that Darren feller sure is sounding a lot like Limbaugh/Hannity he used to rave about…….Republican, Republican, Republican….
    First off, there’s a difference in a single issue voter and having an issue with having an issue with every single candidate.
    Secondly, can we hold off on the best of the worst evils arguement until after the primaries? Why not hold our candidates feet to the fire in our elections?
    Having said that, I think it’s good we are seeing different facets of Conservatism vs Liberalism being argued in the debates so far by all the candidates.

  452. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #218 Sarge
    I’ll try your faux grilled cheese technique, sounds interesting. I make a melted cheese sammich in the microwave, with 2 slices of cheese and some thin sliced onion between them, low power 30 secs on each side, made on a microwavable plate since a little melted cheese always oozes out somewhere. I usually eat this melted sammich with a fork instead of holding by hand, since it is very hot and melty. I’ll bet your melted cheese on toast could be eaten by hand, though.

  453. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #218 Sarge
    I’ll try your faux grilled cheese technique, sounds interesting. I make a melted cheese sammich in the microwave, with 2 slices of cheese and some thin sliced onion between them, low power 30 secs on each side, made on a microwavable plate since a little melted cheese always oozes out somewhere. I usually eat this melted sammich with a fork instead of holding by hand, since it is very hot and melty. I’ll bet your melted cheese on toast could be eaten by hand, though.

  454. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #226 Doooooood

    I’m just glad she doesn’t read this blog.

    Relax, what happens on the Couch stays on the Couch. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge. (Rule 34.)

  455. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #226 Doooooood

    I’m just glad she doesn’t read this blog.

    Relax, what happens on the Couch stays on the Couch. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge. (Rule 34.)

  456. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Geesh. Skillet on medium heat, when it’s good and hot, butter one side of the cheese sammich, throw it on there, butter the other side while that side is browning, flip it when browned. Perfect. Everytime.

    /walks away shaking head

  457. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Geesh. Skillet on medium heat, when it’s good and hot, butter one side of the cheese sammich, throw it on there, butter the other side while that side is browning, flip it when browned. Perfect. Everytime.
    /walks away shaking head

  458. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #231 TT

    I forgot how much I enjoyed Pandora radio…I’ve set up a Gordon Lightfoot-like station. It helps me work. Speaking of…

    What’s the frequency, Kenneth?

    And speaking of… work, I’ve wondered a few times how your assistant is doing — is she still with you?

  459. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #231 TT

    I forgot how much I enjoyed Pandora radio…I’ve set up a Gordon Lightfoot-like station. It helps me work. Speaking of…

    What’s the frequency, Kenneth?
    And speaking of… work, I’ve wondered a few times how your assistant is doing — is she still with you?

  460. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #235 Tim

    flip it when browned

    I once heard Julia Child say it takes 45 minutes to make a proper grilled cheese sammich.

  461. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #235 Tim

    flip it when browned

    I once heard Julia Child say it takes 45 minutes to make a proper grilled cheese sammich.

  462. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Okay, I don’t unnerstan’ why makin’ a grilled cheese sammich is so hard for you guys.

    ‘Taint hard, ‘Long as you got a microwave and a toaster handy.

  463. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Okay, I don’t unnerstan’ why makin’ a grilled cheese sammich is so hard for you guys.

    ‘Taint hard, ‘Long as you got a microwave and a toaster handy.

  464. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Anybody here got a Kindle? I’m lookin at gettin one or sumpin like it.

  465. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Anybody here got a Kindle? I’m lookin at gettin one or sumpin like it.

  466. Tedtam Avatar

    Microwaved grilled cheese sammiches are the work of de debbil, man!

    I agree – butter one side, place on a hot skillet, carefully place the cheese on the topside of the grillin’ bread, place bread slice on top, butter the top. When bottom is crispy scrumptious, flip until the second side matches the first.

    Nearly the same method for PB&J, just gotta put jelly on first slice, peanut butter on second, and be careful when flipping and picking it up – the hot jelly runs if’n you’re not careful.

    As for assistant, her girth continues to grow. Baby is getting more active. She had a baby shower last weekend, and was very happy that I made time to come. If she gets much rounder, she may pop a few weeks early, just from the fact that she can only stretch so far. She’s had some weird abdominal pains, but then she has a fairly serious case of scoliosis – they were talking surgery within the next few years, prior to her pregnancy.

  467. Tedtam Avatar

    Microwaved grilled cheese sammiches are the work of de debbil, man!
    I agree – butter one side, place on a hot skillet, carefully place the cheese on the topside of the grillin’ bread, place bread slice on top, butter the top. When bottom is crispy scrumptious, flip until the second side matches the first.
    Nearly the same method for PB&J, just gotta put jelly on first slice, peanut butter on second, and be careful when flipping and picking it up – the hot jelly runs if’n you’re not careful.
    As for assistant, her girth continues to grow. Baby is getting more active. She had a baby shower last weekend, and was very happy that I made time to come. If she gets much rounder, she may pop a few weeks early, just from the fact that she can only stretch so far. She’s had some weird abdominal pains, but then she has a fairly serious case of scoliosis – they were talking surgery within the next few years, prior to her pregnancy.

  468. Tedtam Avatar

    #239 Sarge

    Lovely has a Nook Color and loves it. I believe the last go-round they added some computational ability, not just read-only activities. If you can reach the cloud and use software there, I think you can actually get some work done on it. Not a whole lot, maybe, but some. Email, Google docs, that kind of thing.

  469. Tedtam Avatar

    #239 Sarge
    Lovely has a Nook Color and loves it. I believe the last go-round they added some computational ability, not just read-only activities. If you can reach the cloud and use software there, I think you can actually get some work done on it. Not a whole lot, maybe, but some. Email, Google docs, that kind of thing.

  470. El Gordo Avatar

    My daughter has a Nook Color I got her. She seems to like it, but I haven’t used it much myself. My dad has the Kindle and absolutely loves it. If you read a lot I think it’s a great investment. I’ll probably get one eventually, but I still have hard copy books I’ve started and not finished.

  471. Dooood Avatar

    My daughter has a Nook Color I got her. She seems to like it, but I haven’t used it much myself. My dad has the Kindle and absolutely loves it. If you read a lot I think it’s a great investment. I’ll probably get one eventually, but I still have hard copy books I’ve started and not finished.

  472. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    From what I understand the Nook’s LCD display is its bigest weakness due to glare and wash out in the sun or harsh light, but it is back lit so it can be read in the dark. Kindle uses E-ink that an be read in any light conditions, but not in the dark.

    There’s also about $100 difference in price, with Kindle on the low side of that equation. Low price is what’s got me thinkin about it.

  473. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    From what I understand the Nook’s LCD display is its bigest weakness due to glare and wash out in the sun or harsh light, but it is back lit so it can be read in the dark. Kindle uses E-ink that an be read in any light conditions, but not in the dark.
    There’s also about $100 difference in price, with Kindle on the low side of that equation. Low price is what’s got me thinkin about it.

  474. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    GJT;

    Dang, that Darren feller sure is sounding a lot like Limbaugh/Hannity he used to rave about…….Republican, Republican, Republican….

    I’m in disguise. Shannon’s wife might be looking for me. If she finds me, she’ll hurt me.

  475. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    GJT;

    Dang, that Darren feller sure is sounding a lot like Limbaugh/Hannity he used to rave about…….Republican, Republican, Republican….

    I’m in disguise. Shannon’s wife might be looking for me. If she finds me, she’ll hurt me.

  476. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    TT, what about that Gordon Lightfoot music station you mentioned? Got its call letters so I can look it up & get the frequency?

  477. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    TT, what about that Gordon Lightfoot music station you mentioned? Got its call letters so I can look it up & get the frequency?

  478. Hamous Avatar

    I am going to spend some more quality time with my spousal unit, Mrs Bonecrusher. G,nite yall

  479. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    I am going to spend some more quality time with my spousal unit, Mrs Bonecrusher. G,nite yall

  480. El Gordo Avatar

    #245 mh42,

    Go here and create an account. There is also an app for Droid or, if you must, for iPhone. I need to go wash my hands now after having to type that dreaded “i” thing. Have a good night all.

  481. Dooood Avatar

    #245 mh42,
    Go here and create an account. There is also an app for Droid or, if you must, for iPhone. I need to go wash my hands now after having to type that dreaded “i” thing. Have a good night all.

  482. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Man youse guys are rabid! OK, Grilled cheese,…..two slices of wheat bread buttered with Sharp chedder cheese in between, grilled/browned in the #10 Griswold cast Iron skillet. Simple as that. BUTT my Bride’s favorite is P-Nut Butter and Bananas on wheat, buttered and grilled in the skillet. 😉
    Did someone mention a “Full Moon?” Humm, Interesting~

  483. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Man youse guys are rabid! OK, Grilled cheese,…..two slices of wheat bread buttered with Sharp chedder cheese in between, grilled/browned in the #10 Griswold cast Iron skillet. Simple as that. BUTT my Bride’s favorite is P-Nut Butter and Bananas on wheat, buttered and grilled in the skillet. 😉
    Did someone mention a “Full Moon?” Humm, Interesting~

  484. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    250!! Full Moon I tell Ya!

  485. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    250!! Full Moon I tell Ya!

  486. Tedtam Avatar

    #245 Mharper

    It wasn’t a “station” per se. Pandora radio (www.pandora.com) is an interesting music site that allows you to create a “station” based upon your music preferences. You can set up different “stations”. I happen to like Gordon Lightfoot, so I requested that artist first. Then the software picks similar music based upon elements of the song you requested. They call it a “genome”. You give a thumbs up or down on songs as they come up. The software refines your music selection for that station as you tell it which songs you like or don’t like. I started with Lightfoot, and now I get some Simon & Garfunkle, Harry Chapin, Beach Boys, etc. – and it’s the kind of music that keeps me calm enough to get some work done.

    I also like http://www.live365.com. It’s online radio with a ton of different genres to choose from. I like the oldies – Sinatra, Shore, etc. I can hear the newer stuff any time.

  487. Tedtam Avatar

    #245 Mharper
    It wasn’t a “station” per se. Pandora radio (www.pandora.com) is an interesting music site that allows you to create a “station” based upon your music preferences. You can set up different “stations”. I happen to like Gordon Lightfoot, so I requested that artist first. Then the software picks similar music based upon elements of the song you requested. They call it a “genome”. You give a thumbs up or down on songs as they come up. The software refines your music selection for that station as you tell it which songs you like or don’t like. I started with Lightfoot, and now I get some Simon & Garfunkle, Harry Chapin, Beach Boys, etc. – and it’s the kind of music that keeps me calm enough to get some work done.
    I also like http://www.live365.com. It’s online radio with a ton of different genres to choose from. I like the oldies – Sinatra, Shore, etc. I can hear the newer stuff any time.

  488. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Sarge
    I like my Kendle. Do spend the extra bucks for the 3G version.

    It does have some experimental browsing capabilities.

  489. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    Sarge
    I like my Kendle. Do spend the extra bucks for the 3G version.
    It does have some experimental browsing capabilities.

  490. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    TT, Doooood,
    Thanks, I never heard of this Pandora, and I may look into it now that I know what it is. But I am not able to listen to music while I work, blows my concentration. So I’m trying to figure out when internet radio would fit into my lifestyle. Forget the feed to a cell phone. I don’t like cell phones and I do not have one.

    I usually listen to talk radio while I am shutting down for the night. Now you men probably think that just involves turning out the lights, right? TT and any other wimmins around here know that is laughable, it can take 30-45 minutes, or more. But if I’m moving around the house, listening to music playing from the computer won’t be ideal. It’s worth looking into, though.

  491. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    TT, Doooood,
    Thanks, I never heard of this Pandora, and I may look into it now that I know what it is. But I am not able to listen to music while I work, blows my concentration. So I’m trying to figure out when internet radio would fit into my lifestyle. Forget the feed to a cell phone. I don’t like cell phones and I do not have one.
    I usually listen to talk radio while I am shutting down for the night. Now you men probably think that just involves turning out the lights, right? TT and any other wimmins around here know that is laughable, it can take 30-45 minutes, or more. But if I’m moving around the house, listening to music playing from the computer won’t be ideal. It’s worth looking into, though.

  492. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    GJT #244;

    Couldn’t you pick someone who supports the Republican Party? 😉

  493. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    GJT #244;
    Couldn’t you pick someone who supports the Republican Party? 😉

  494. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    For a conservative Texan seeking national office, it could hardly get better than this: In a recent 48-hour span, Ted Cruz, a candidate for next year’s Republican Senate nomination for the seat being vacated by Republican Kay Bailey Hutchison, was endorsed by the Club for Growth PAC, FreedomWorks PAC, talk-radio host Mark Levin and Erick Erickson of RedState.com. And Cruz’s most conservative potential rival for the nomination decided to seek a House seat instead.

    The man’s racking up the endorsements, eh? Were it not for David Jennings, I think I still would have little to no idea who Ted Cruz is.

    In Ted Cruz, a candidate as good as it gets

  495. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    For a conservative Texan seeking national office, it could hardly get better than this: In a recent 48-hour span, Ted Cruz, a candidate for next year’s Republican Senate nomination for the seat being vacated by Republican Kay Bailey Hutchison, was endorsed by the Club for Growth PAC, FreedomWorks PAC, talk-radio host Mark Levin and Erick Erickson of RedState.com. And Cruz’s most conservative potential rival for the nomination decided to seek a House seat instead.

    The man’s racking up the endorsements, eh? Were it not for David Jennings, I think I still would have little to no idea who Ted Cruz is.
    In Ted Cruz, a candidate as good as it gets

  496. Tedtam Avatar

    #253 Mharper

    Now you men probably think that just involves turning out the lights, right? TT and any other wimmins around here know that is laughable, it can take 30-45 minutes, or more.

    You got that right, sister. The menfolk just don’t understand, do they?

  497. Tedtam Avatar

    #253 Mharper

    Now you men probably think that just involves turning out the lights, right? TT and any other wimmins around here know that is laughable, it can take 30-45 minutes, or more.

    You got that right, sister. The menfolk just don’t understand, do they?

  498. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    239 Sarge,

    Ms Simple and I bought an iPad last month. Now before you go thinking that Ms Simple and I have joined the sweater-sleve-tied-around-neck yuppie crowd at Starbucks; I have got to set you straight.

    We actually purchased it for our Grand daughter because of her Asberger’s and other learning problems. It is an aid to the Mr and Ms Simple’s School of Elementary Education. It has proven to be an asset in this regard, but I have also discovered an APP that allows me to download my Investors Business Daily to read while we at physical therapy. I just wish Apple and Adobe would bury the hatchett so the iPad could run Adobe Flash Player.

    I do believe the various tablets or pads are the direction the dead-tree media will be headed. The Kindle is an excellent platform. Hard to top the price.

    Simple

  499. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    239 Sarge,
    Ms Simple and I bought an iPad last month. Now before you go thinking that Ms Simple and I have joined the sweater-sleve-tied-around-neck yuppie crowd at Starbucks; I have got to set you straight.
    We actually purchased it for our Grand daughter because of her Asberger’s and other learning problems. It is an aid to the Mr and Ms Simple’s School of Elementary Education. It has proven to be an asset in this regard, but I have also discovered an APP that allows me to download my Investors Business Daily to read while we at physical therapy. I just wish Apple and Adobe would bury the hatchett so the iPad could run Adobe Flash Player.
    I do believe the various tablets or pads are the direction the dead-tree media will be headed. The Kindle is an excellent platform. Hard to top the price.
    Simple

  500. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    253 mharper,
    Try Audiobooks on a computer/iPod/MP3 player. They can be downloaded for free (my favorite word) from the Harris County Public Library. You would be amazed at the selections that are available and that includes non-fiction titles for you political 24/7 junkies (you know who you are).
    They even have the latest Ann Coulter book read by her androgenous self.
    Harris County Public Library e-Audio
    Simple

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