I recently finished reading the book Resurrected, which discusses some of the scientific study surrounding the Shroud of Turin. I had read about some of the research over the years, including the incredible 3D effect of the image, but I learned something new in this book.
A brief history of the Shroud has it appearing during the Middle Ages, first appearing in European history in the 1350s in the town of Lirey. The knight who had it, Geoffrey de Charney, never explained where he had gotten the cloth. It changed hands several times, eventually ending up in Turin, Italy, where it is currently stored. At one point in its history, the building in which it was stored caught fire. The metal from the chest which held dripped onto the shroud, resulting in certain parts becoming burned, which were patched at some point.
The shroud is a linen cloth, bearing the front and back images of a man. The hands are placed at the front of the body, and there are obvious blood marks on the body. Faint images of flowers can be seen.
The author of the book became fascinated with the cloth through the work of a scientist studying the blood stains. His work studying the placement and structure of the blood stains was interesting. Among other things, the placement of certain stains only works if the body were wrapped in the shroud. One of his first revelations was that the blood stains were a positive image, while the body image was a negative. How could – or why would – a forger create such an image? He also goes into the importance of understanding Jewish burial practices to understand why their was still blood on the body. I had always wondered why there were bloodstains, as I assumed that loving relatives would wash the body before even a hurried burial; at least the blood would be smudged as the body was laid to rest. It seems that Jewish ceremonies required that certain blood be buried, untouched, on the body. Read the book for the explanation; suffice it to say, I understand the presence of the blood now.
There are extensive discussions of his study of the blood stains and their placement, and a rebuttal of the “painted image” argument. Micrographic examination of the fabric shows the discoloration only to be 1 to at most 4 threads into the fabric. Paint would leave pigments behind (which are missing) and the liquid would have wicked further into the fabric, including the “under” thread as the fabric had been woven. The discoloration only affected the thread firbers directly exposed to the body, yet contact discolorations from body fluids has so far been discredited.
There are other discussion of the “missing thumbs,” the anatomically correct placement of the nail wounds (which is usually not correct in pictures, literature, and statues), the marks of torture (historically correct), the importance of the Last Supper wine (blood), the significance of the amount of blood, pollen studies, and other items. All interesting, to me anyway, but I can’t rewrite the whole book here.
The one item that truly made my eyebrows raise was the fact that the body itself had been raised. I had never paid much attention to the placement of the hair or the play of light and shadow in the image, assuming that the body had been horizontal at the time of the image creation. The author goes into detail of how gravity affects hair placement, which in the image lays beside the head and flows downward to the shoulders. This proves the body was vertical and upright, as the hair would have been splayed away from the head had the body been laying down. That alone was intriguing, but when he mentioned that the soles of the feet were visible, I truly got a shock. The body was not standing on the ground, but had literally been suspended above the ground. As the author recalls from John 12:32: “And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.”
The author puts himself in the place of the doubting apostle, Thomas, understanding the culture of the time, to explain the importance of all these items. It all makes sense, and except for the existence of an actual body, pretty much proves that this was Jesus. I just came across another site which I have not researched yet, but seems to have the “death certificate” of Jesus on the Shroud as well.
How was the image created? We may never know. But it still manages to draw people to Jesus, and that may be the greatest message after all.
Weekend Open Comments
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Dr. Walter Williams of George Mason University, Dan Mitchell of Cato Institute, Richard Rahn of the Institute for Global Economic Growth and Andrew Quinlan of the Center for Freedom and Prosperity were the judges for the CF&P Foundation contest for the 2011 best video explaining liberty.
The Young Americans for Liberty chapter at the University of Virginia won first place and $1,000 for their entry, Lilliputian Liberty.
Would somebody please get Dan Patrick and his like-minded colleagues on the Right and Left to watch this video.
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Dr. Walter Williams of George Mason University, Dan Mitchell of Cato Institute, Richard Rahn of the Institute for Global Economic Growth and Andrew Quinlan of the Center for Freedom and Prosperity were the judges for the CF&P Foundation contest for the 2011 best video explaining liberty.
The Young Americans for Liberty chapter at the University of Virginia won first place and $1,000 for their entry, Lilliputian Liberty.
Would somebody please get Dan Patrick and his like-minded colleagues on the Right and Left to watch this video. -
Would somebody please get Dan Patrick and his like-minded colleagues on the Right and Left to watch this video.
That might be appropos had the Liliputians been debating an issue with a larger moral component than cracking eggs.
Moral equivalence of issues is not a hallmark of Liberty, niether does making all issues so advance it.
Liberty without morality is anarchy.
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Would somebody please get Dan Patrick and his like-minded colleagues on the Right and Left to watch this video.
That might be appropos had the Liliputians been debating an issue with a larger moral component than cracking eggs.
Moral equivalence of issues is not a hallmark of Liberty, niether does making all issues so advance it.
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Now this is a BS headline; Blast at Japan nuclear plant, death toll rises. Read the story, the death toll rising is overall, nothing to do with the explosion and in fact says the plant is still safe.
You will also see in the article that four whole trains have disappeared. Much will be made about the nuclear facility while in reality it appears to have handled the magnitude 8.9 quake and tsunami quite well. I say build more nuclear plants and scrap high speed rail, they disappear !!
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Now this is a BS headline; Blast at Japan nuclear plant, death toll rises. Read the story, the death toll rising is overall, nothing to do with the explosion and in fact says the plant is still safe.
You will also see in the article that four whole trains have disappeared. Much will be made about the nuclear facility while in reality it appears to have handled the magnitude 8.9 quake and tsunami quite well. I say build more nuclear plants and scrap high speed rail, they disappear !! -
GJT, that sort of sensationalism is why I have such little respect for news reporting.
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GJT, that sort of sensationalism is why I have such little respect for news reporting.
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The video does not explain how to deal with 100% of Liliputians in SheJackL’s district wanting me to crack their eggs for them.
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The video does not explain how to deal with 100% of Liliputians in SheJackL’s district wanting me to crack their eggs for them.
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#4 Sarge
That might be appropos had the Liliputians been debating an issue with a larger moral component than cracking eggs.
Moral equivalence of issues is not a hallmark of Liberty, niether does making all issues so advance it.
Oh, good grief.
The principles illustrated in the video are timeless and enduring regarding the essence of liberty. There is no moral equivalence there no matter how hard you might try.
Nor did I make the argument you imply I did so go argue with a fence post somewhere because I’m not going to waste my time with you.
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#4 Sarge
That might be appropos had the Liliputians been debating an issue with a larger moral component than cracking eggs.
Moral equivalence of issues is not a hallmark of Liberty, niether does making all issues so advance it.Oh, good grief.
The principles illustrated in the video are timeless and enduring regarding the essence of liberty. There is no moral equivalence there no matter how hard you might try.
Nor did I make the argument you imply I did so go argue with a fence post somewhere because I’m not going to waste my time with you. -
The Joe Goebbels style media has found true heroes in the Union protesters in Wisconsin.
They are…
Nobel
Fighters for truth, justice and the middle class
Lovers of workers rights
Everyday Americans just out to stand up for the little guy
They all wear a big S on their t-shirts
Defenders of mom and apple pie
Nary a malcontent among them
Non-violent peace lovers
Favorite movie, Norma RaeCompare that to the Joe Goebbels style media coverage of the Tea Party protests.
They are…
Angry, defiant, ant-government white folks
Racist to the core
Malcontents everyone of them
Haters
Violent abusers
Filthy conservatives
Would steal candy from a baby
Tax cheats
Evil is as evil does flunkies
Right wing religious gun fanatics clinging to God, guns, bazookas, tanks, etc.
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The Joe Goebbels style media has found true heroes in the Union protesters in Wisconsin.
They are…
Nobel
Fighters for truth, justice and the middle class
Lovers of workers rights
Everyday Americans just out to stand up for the little guy
They all wear a big S on their t-shirts
Defenders of mom and apple pie
Nary a malcontent among them
Non-violent peace lovers
Favorite movie, Norma Rae
Compare that to the Joe Goebbels style media coverage of the Tea Party protests.
They are…
Angry, defiant, ant-government white folks
Racist to the core
Malcontents everyone of them
Haters
Violent abusers
Filthy conservatives
Would steal candy from a baby
Tax cheats
Evil is as evil does flunkies
Right wing religious gun fanatics clinging to God, guns, bazookas, tanks, etc.
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Would somebody please get Dan Patrick
Snicker, snicker, heh, hehe, sincker, chortle, snicker
BUHWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHATexpat you are such a kidder.
/He wants D_n Patrick to watch a video that makes sense.
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Would somebody please get Dan Patrick
Snicker, snicker, heh, hehe, sincker, chortle, snicker
BUHWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Texpat you are such a kidder.
/He wants D_n Patrick to watch a video that makes sense.
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Hammie
I just remembered another band I hate near as much as I hate that unmentionable band.
/Argggghhhhh now i cannot get that song out of my cranium.
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Hammie
I just remembered another band I hate near as much as I hate that unmentionable band.
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#11 Squawk
I emphatically agree.
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The principles illustrated in the video are timeless and enduring regarding the essence of liberty. There is no moral equivalence there no matter how hard you might try.
Nor did I make the argument you imply I did so go argue with a fence post somewhere because I’m not going to waste my time with you.
I didn’t say they weren’t. I just made mention that morality should be included in the equation. For instance, I would posit that the issue of which end of an egg to crack is infinetly easier to solve than one where Liliputians have to decide whether or not it is moral to stand by while their neighbors exercise their percieved Liberty to kill thier unborn children, or to allow them to exercise thier Liberty to ingest consciousness altering substances and then drive on the public roadways.
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The principles illustrated in the video are timeless and enduring regarding the essence of liberty. There is no moral equivalence there no matter how hard you might try.
Nor did I make the argument you imply I did so go argue with a fence post somewhere because I’m not going to waste my time with you.I didn’t say they weren’t. I just made mention that morality should be included in the equation. For instance, I would posit that the issue of which end of an egg to crack is infinetly easier to solve than one where Liliputians have to decide whether or not it is moral to stand by while their neighbors exercise their percieved Liberty to kill thier unborn children, or to allow them to exercise thier Liberty to ingest consciousness altering substances and then drive on the public roadways.
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We all know the tooter’s favorite band.
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We all know the tooter’s favorite band.
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Wagon
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Wagon
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chicken
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Wise
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Wise
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cluck cluck
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Japan has a very advanced earthquake warning system that can provide warnings a minute or so before the ground starts shaking. May not sound like much, but:
This is enough time to slow and stop trains, issue “go around” commands to airplanes on final approach and turn streetlights red—preventing cars from entering hazardous structures such as bridges and tunnels. Workers in hazardous work environments could move to safe zones, and sensitive equipment could enter a hold mode, reducing damage and loss. Schoolchildren and office workers could get under desks before the shaking arrived. The region would be ready to ride out the violence to come.
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Japan has a very advanced earthquake warning system that can provide warnings a minute or so before the ground starts shaking. May not sound like much, but:
This is enough time to slow and stop trains, issue “go around” commands to airplanes on final approach and turn streetlights red—preventing cars from entering hazardous structures such as bridges and tunnels. Workers in hazardous work environments could move to safe zones, and sensitive equipment could enter a hold mode, reducing damage and loss. Schoolchildren and office workers could get under desks before the shaking arrived. The region would be ready to ride out the violence to come.
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I does occur to me, however, that discussing Liberty in terms of cracking eggs does give those who disagree with Dan Patrick politically an opportunity to slam him without discussing the actual issues in question or the morality involved in them.
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I does occur to me, however, that discussing Liberty in terms of cracking eggs does give those who disagree with Dan Patrick politically an opportunity to slam him without discussing the actual issues in question or the morality involved in them.
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At great risk to alter the gravitational constant of the universe, I am going to agree with Sarge on the issue of moral equivalence. THE TRUTH is not always “somewhere in the middle” as there are times when it is at its fullest and most complete at the extreme position of one side ONLY. Please understand that I am speaking in the abstract here and not with reference to a particular issue.
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At great risk to alter the gravitational constant of the universe, I am going to agree with Sarge on the issue of moral equivalence. THE TRUTH is not always “somewhere in the middle” as there are times when it is at its fullest and most complete at the extreme position of one side ONLY. Please understand that I am speaking in the abstract here and not with reference to a particular issue.
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Soon I’m gonna crack an egg to put on my sandwich. I just gotta watch out as to how many eggs I consume.
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Soon I’m gonna crack an egg to put on my sandwich. I just gotta watch out as to how many eggs I consume.
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Squawk #14;
Wow. Good thing they’re in Australia. Can you imagine the fury of anger having a show called Spicks & Specks in the states?
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Squawk #14;
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#15 wagonburner 😀
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#15 wagonburner 😀
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Texpat #3;
I realy like simple presentations that describe basic ideas of liberty. That was a great video.
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Texpat #3;
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#7 Timber
The video does not explain how to deal with 100% of Liliputians in SheJackL’s district wanting me to crack their eggs for them.
Whoa Tim, I am unfortunately a Lilliputian in US House District 18, and I don’t want you to crack my eggs. Although if you could redistrict me the hell outa here, that would be great.
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#7 Timber
The video does not explain how to deal with 100% of Liliputians in SheJackL’s district wanting me to crack their eggs for them.
Whoa Tim, I am unfortunately a Lilliputian in US House District 18, and I don’t want you to crack my eggs. Although if you could redistrict me the hell outa here, that would be great.
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22 Bonecrusher says:
March 12, 2011 at 12:00 pm
At great risk to alter the gravitational constant of the universe, I am going to agree with Sarge on the issue of moral equivalence. THE TRUTH is not always “somewhere in the middle” as there are times when it is at its fullest and most complete at the extreme position of one side ONLY. Please understand that I am speaking in the abstract here and not with reference to a particular issue.That’s probably what caused the earthquake in Japan.
It amazes me sometime that those who understand the efficacy of profiling military aged Muslim males in airport ticket lines have a problem with putting up sobriety check points near bars in the early morning hours, or can’t see that the sonogram bill is a way of doing something poltically possible in an effort to address an very complicated and emotional moral issue.
But then again, I know that the local Republican Establishment has had a problem with Dan Patrick for a while. The efforts made at preventing him from being elected in the first place and the chilly reception he got when he first took office were more than ample proof of that, and I see the only thing that has really changed are the tactics.
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22 Bonecrusher says:
March 12, 2011 at 12:00 pm
At great risk to alter the gravitational constant of the universe, I am going to agree with Sarge on the issue of moral equivalence. THE TRUTH is not always “somewhere in the middle” as there are times when it is at its fullest and most complete at the extreme position of one side ONLY. Please understand that I am speaking in the abstract here and not with reference to a particular issue.That’s probably what caused the earthquake in Japan.
It amazes me sometime that those who understand the efficacy of profiling military aged Muslim males in airport ticket lines have a problem with putting up sobriety check points near bars in the early morning hours, or can’t see that the sonogram bill is a way of doing something poltically possible in an effort to address an very complicated and emotional moral issue.
But then again, I know that the local Republican Establishment has had a problem with Dan Patrick for a while. The efforts made at preventing him from being elected in the first place and the chilly reception he got when he first took office were more than ample proof of that, and I see the only thing that has really changed are the tactics. -
News from Hamoustan:
Two young men arrested for taunting and trying to steal alligators from a restaurant’s pond.Article doesn’t say whether mind-altering substances were involved.
filed under: “Seemed like a good idea at the time”
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News from Hamoustan:
Two young men arrested for taunting and trying to steal alligators from a restaurant’s pond.
Article doesn’t say whether mind-altering substances were involved.
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I does occur to me, however, that discussing Liberty in terms of cracking eggs does give those who disagree with Dan Patrick politically an opportunity to slam him without discussing the actual issues in question or the morality involved in them.
So I am going to assume that you are referring to either Texpat or myself. To which I will strongly respond you sir are treading on grounds to which you do not belong.
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I does occur to me, however, that discussing Liberty in terms of cracking eggs does give those who disagree with Dan Patrick politically an opportunity to slam him without discussing the actual issues in question or the morality involved in them.
So I am going to assume that you are referring to either Texpat or myself. To which I will strongly respond you sir are treading on grounds to which you do not belong.
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So I am going to assume that you are referring to either Texpat or myself. To which I will strongly respond you sir are treading on grounds to which you do not belong.
You didn’t introduce the subject then refuse to discuss it.
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So I am going to assume that you are referring to either Texpat or myself. To which I will strongly respond you sir are treading on grounds to which you do not belong.
You didn’t introduce the subject then refuse to discuss it.
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I treated the younger kids last night by allowing them to sleep downstairs (it’s still a mess). Baby Girl was the last to get up but still got up really early. She’s now crashed on the floor. She looks so angelic asleep as do all my kids. She fell asleep with the new puppy which was cute as well. The puppy’s up now and chewing on some paper. Gotta go get some rawhide.
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I treated the younger kids last night by allowing them to sleep downstairs (it’s still a mess). Baby Girl was the last to get up but still got up really early. She’s now crashed on the floor. She looks so angelic asleep as do all my kids. She fell asleep with the new puppy which was cute as well. The puppy’s up now and chewing on some paper. Gotta go get some rawhide.
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The defendant claims it was kinky role-play, pointing to emails where his alleged victim asks for the exact treatment she got. He kicked her out at one point because she was drunk and crazed, his lawyer said, but she asked to return.
So, should John Hopkin’s actions be criminal or not?
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The defendant claims it was kinky role-play, pointing to emails where his alleged victim asks for the exact treatment she got. He kicked her out at one point because she was drunk and crazed, his lawyer said, but she asked to return.
So, should John Hopkin’s actions be criminal or not?
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You have no idea to what my knowledge level is of D_n. Be real careful sir. Your history of successfully defending politicians is real suspect. -
No Sarge
You have no idea to what my knowledge level is of D_n. Be real careful sir. Your history of successfully defending politicians is real suspect. -
Whoa Tim, I am unfortunately a Lilliputian in US House District 18, and I don’t want you to crack my eggs. Although if you could redistrict me the hell outa here, that would be great.
Ok, 99% then.
I was in your same shoes and redistricted myself outta there about 10 yrs ago.
/trying to put mharper’s egg back together
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Whoa Tim, I am unfortunately a Lilliputian in US House District 18, and I don’t want you to crack my eggs. Although if you could redistrict me the hell outa here, that would be great.
Ok, 99% then.
I was in your same shoes and redistricted myself outta there about 10 yrs ago.
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Japan’s Fukushima #1 reactor is going to be flooded with seawater in an effort to cool the core in order to prevent a meltdown. This will likely cause the reactor to have to be scrapped due to contamination by saltwater (reactors use purified deionized water for cooling).
An earlier explosion in the containment building was due to hydrogen gas that was generated by the core when water levels dropped too low to sufficiently cool it. This caused the building’s roof to collapse and did not breach the reactor vessel. Still serious, but not as bad as originally feared.
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Japan’s Fukushima #1 reactor is going to be flooded with seawater in an effort to cool the core in order to prevent a meltdown. This will likely cause the reactor to have to be scrapped due to contamination by saltwater (reactors use purified deionized water for cooling).
An earlier explosion in the containment building was due to hydrogen gas that was generated by the core when water levels dropped too low to sufficiently cool it. This caused the building’s roof to collapse and did not breach the reactor vessel. Still serious, but not as bad as originally feared. -
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Cool wedding photoshoot.
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#35 Tim
I was in your same shoes and redistricted myself outta there
I’m afraid a gerrymandered district could reach out and snag my block no matter where I moved. Have y’all seen the goofy boundaries of the 18th?
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/findyourreps.xpd?state=TX&district=18
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#35 Tim
I was in your same shoes and redistricted myself outta there
I’m afraid a gerrymandered district could reach out and snag my block no matter where I moved. Have y’all seen the goofy boundaries of the 18th?
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Back in Jr. High school Harlan Ellison’s A Boy and his Dog was one of many paperbacks that the authoritahs confiscated from me.
Typically, my property would be returned by the end of the day. But my science teacher apparently liked it as much as I did. It took him until the end of the week to finish reading it. He “borrowed” so many of my paperbacks, that he inked my yearbook with, “To a guy who’s more science fiction than science student.”
I saw the movie was available on Netflix, and against my better judgement, am watching it. So far, not so good…
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Back in Jr. High school Harlan Ellison’s A Boy and his Dog was one of many paperbacks that the authoritahs confiscated from me.
Typically, my property would be returned by the end of the day. But my science teacher apparently liked it as much as I did. It took him until the end of the week to finish reading it. He “borrowed” so many of my paperbacks, that he inked my yearbook with, “To a guy who’s more science fiction than science student.”
I saw the movie was available on Netflix, and against my better judgement, am watching it. So far, not so good… -
Rawhide. (In A)
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Rawhide. (In A)
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#40 Bob
If you’re talking about the movie from the 1970s with the young Don Johnson as the boy, and you don’t like it — there is something wrong with you, dude.
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#40 Bob
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M42, like most other movies, I find the books they were based on more entertaining. But I’ve decided to finish watching it. So far it’s better than LOTR (but that’s setting the bar pretty low.)
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M42, like most other movies, I find the books they were based on more entertaining. But I’ve decided to finish watching it. So far it’s better than LOTR (but that’s setting the bar pretty low.)
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bob #41;
Ya beat me to it. 🙂
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#44 Darren, I reckon it’s possible that I was on a mission from God. 😉
Remember people, that no matter who you are and what you do to live, thrive, and survive, there’s still some things that make us all the same. You, me, them, everybody.
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#44 Darren, I reckon it’s possible that I was on a mission from God. 😉
Remember people, that no matter who you are and what you do to live, thrive, and survive, there’s still some things that make us all the same. You, me, them, everybody.
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Southern Domestic Tragic Terrorist couldn’t live in this neighborhood.
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Southern Domestic Tragic Terrorist couldn’t live in this neighborhood.
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Another good article from Pajamas Media defending Rep. Peter King’s inquiry into Islamists in America. Considering the author, this could probably also be found over at National Review Online.
The Inanities of Peter Beinart: Why He is Wrong about the King Hearings
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Another good article from Pajamas Media defending Rep. Peter King’s inquiry into Islamists in America. Considering the author, this could probably also be found over at National Review Online.
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bob #45;
Heh. That explains the successful times of outrunning the cops.
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#33 Darren:
So, should John Hopkin’s actions be criminal or not?
After reading the kinkie thingie you linkied to I have to say hell no, his actions are not criminal. Do they violate reasonable boundaries of behavior; absolutely but it was consensual. He produced e-mails that state she asked for exactly what she got; he threw her out once but she begged to come back???
ON the one hand, he is getting what he deserves because he knowingly shacked up with a complete psycho beyotch from hell – on the other hand, it was sexual activity between 2 consenting adults of the opposite sex.
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#33 Darren:
So, should John Hopkin’s actions be criminal or not?
After reading the kinkie thingie you linkied to I have to say hell no, his actions are not criminal. Do they violate reasonable boundaries of behavior; absolutely but it was consensual. He produced e-mails that state she asked for exactly what she got; he threw her out once but she begged to come back???
ON the one hand, he is getting what he deserves because he knowingly shacked up with a complete psycho beyotch from hell – on the other hand, it was sexual activity between 2 consenting adults of the opposite sex.
She can’t beg for it on one hand and then when she gets tired of getting what she specifically asked for go to the cops and ruin his (already worthless) life; that just aint right no matter how you slice it. -
#42 M42, the movie started out slow, and deviated quite a bit from my comprehension of the book (as is usually the case when the mind’s eye is involved.) But overall, it exceeded my expectations.
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#42 M42, the movie started out slow, and deviated quite a bit from my comprehension of the book (as is usually the case when the mind’s eye is involved.) But overall, it exceeded my expectations.
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Bird lives.
Charlie “Yardbird” Parker died 56 years ago today at 34 years of age. No Jazz Age artist leveraged more influence given his short life on earth as Parker. One of, if not the greatest, sax players of all time.
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Bird lives.
Charlie “Yardbird” Parker died 56 years ago today at 34 years of age. No Jazz Age artist leveraged more influence given his short life on earth as Parker. One of, if not the greatest, sax players of all time.
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#51 Very nice and mellow. It was hitting me how a bunch of us are sitting cosy in our own homes, scattered out from Hawaii (Big45Iron) to Texas (most of us) to Joisey (TexPat) to Morrocco (TexMo), calling one another’s attention to various things, enjoying, criticizing, arguing, but above all, interacting as we do.
Fantastic. Glad I was born into this time and place.
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#51 Very nice and mellow. It was hitting me how a bunch of us are sitting cosy in our own homes, scattered out from Hawaii (Big45Iron) to Texas (most of us) to Joisey (TexPat) to Morrocco (TexMo), calling one another’s attention to various things, enjoying, criticizing, arguing, but above all, interacting as we do.
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Bone #49;
I say he should be charged with assaut and battery and she should be charged as an accomplice.
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Another example of lowering standards on one side instead of raising them on the other.
The money quote:
The D.O.J. has forced other police departments across the country to lower testing standards, citing once again that not enough black candidates were passing.
Because of course, minorities are too stupid to study hard and pass the test on their own merits. And because it’s more important to have a diverse work force rather than one that is qualified to do the job.
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Another example of lowering standards on one side instead of raising them on the other.
The money quote:The D.O.J. has forced other police departments across the country to lower testing standards, citing once again that not enough black candidates were passing.
Because of course, minorities are too stupid to study hard and pass the test on their own merits. And because it’s more important to have a diverse work force rather than one that is qualified to do the job.
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#54 TT
Yeah, I saw the story and it made my blood boil. If there’s any type of egg-cracking that we Lilliputians don’t need the Feds sticking their noses into, it is standards for hiring first responders.
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#54 TT
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“I’m hearing the rumors. I would never retire. I love being a captain too much!” the sugar-infused sailor said Thursday via a newly-created Twitter account.
He repeats his delicious message of hope on a new website.
I am so very thrilled to hear. Cap’n Crunch is awesome!
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“I’m hearing the rumors. I would never retire. I love being a captain too much!” the sugar-infused sailor said Thursday via a newly-created Twitter account.
He repeats his delicious message of hope on a new website.I am so very thrilled to hear. Cap’n Crunch is awesome!
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And the next story
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This is a very cool interactive map showing the inbound and outbound migration between all the counties in the USA.
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This is a very cool interactive map showing the inbound and outbound migration between all the counties in the USA.
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On Friday night at 10:30 pm the terrorists entered the house through the living room picture window, did not notice the 6-year-old boy sleeping on the couch and continued on to the bedroom where they slashed the throats of the father and newborn baby who were sleeping there. The mother came out of the bathroom and was stabbed on its threshold. The evidence shows that she tried to fight the terrorists. They then slashed the throat of the 11-year old-son who was reading in bed. They did not notice the 2-year old asleep in his bed, but murdered the 3-year old with two stabs to his heart. After that, they locked the door, exited through the window and escaped. Exactly two hours after the infiltration, there was another warning signal from the same spot on the fence, as the terrorists left the way they had come. Once again, the patrol did not identify the source of the signal as infiltration.
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On Friday night at 10:30 pm the terrorists entered the house through the living room picture window, did not notice the 6-year-old boy sleeping on the couch and continued on to the bedroom where they slashed the throats of the father and newborn baby who were sleeping there. The mother came out of the bathroom and was stabbed on its threshold. The evidence shows that she tried to fight the terrorists. They then slashed the throat of the 11-year old-son who was reading in bed. They did not notice the 2-year old asleep in his bed, but murdered the 3-year old with two stabs to his heart. After that, they locked the door, exited through the window and escaped. Exactly two hours after the infiltration, there was another warning signal from the same spot on the fence, as the terrorists left the way they had come. Once again, the patrol did not identify the source of the signal as infiltration.
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34 squawkbox says:
March 12, 2011 at 2:18 pm
No Sarge
You have no idea to what my knowledge level is of D_n. Be real careful sir. Your history of successfully defending politicians is real suspect.I didn’t question your knowledge of Patrick, nor did I realize anyone was keeping score on my defending politicians, or that which politicians I’ve defended in the past was even worthy of scorekeeping.
My principal problem was twofold: That the making of a post that seemed to be about Liberty was used as a cheap shot against a poltician, and then the unwillingness to discuss the effect of morality on Liberty, which led me to believe that the actual purpose of the post was to make the cheap shot.
As far as Patrick goes, share with me whatever information you have on him and perhaps I’ll change my mind. Right now I see a man not much different from any other politician out there with the benefit of his driving Establishment Republicans a little batschizzle–whcih I see as a good thing. The Establsihment seems to be in constant need of reminding who the frik got them elected and why they lost so badly four years ago. As far as I understand it, the principal problems that have been elucidated are the Sonogram Bill and the Sobriety Checkpoint Bill, neither of which I have a problem with, and both of which are reasonably popular, at least among the folks that keep voting for him.
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34 squawkbox says:
March 12, 2011 at 2:18 pm
No Sarge
You have no idea to what my knowledge level is of D_n. Be real careful sir. Your history of successfully defending politicians is real suspect.I didn’t question your knowledge of Patrick, nor did I realize anyone was keeping score on my defending politicians, or that which politicians I’ve defended in the past was even worthy of scorekeeping.
My principal problem was twofold: That the making of a post that seemed to be about Liberty was used as a cheap shot against a poltician, and then the unwillingness to discuss the effect of morality on Liberty, which led me to believe that the actual purpose of the post was to make the cheap shot.
As far as Patrick goes, share with me whatever information you have on him and perhaps I’ll change my mind. Right now I see a man not much different from any other politician out there with the benefit of his driving Establishment Republicans a little batschizzle–whcih I see as a good thing. The Establsihment seems to be in constant need of reminding who the frik got them elected and why they lost so badly four years ago. As far as I understand it, the principal problems that have been elucidated are the Sonogram Bill and the Sobriety Checkpoint Bill, neither of which I have a problem with, and both of which are reasonably popular, at least among the folks that keep voting for him. -
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mharperI’m afraid a gerrymandered district could reach out and snag my block no matter where I moved. Have y’all seen the goofy boundaries of the 18th?
You run far enough, they’ll never catch you ! 😀
Note to NAACP: It was actually Asian gangs and their drive-bys that chased us out.
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mharperI’m afraid a gerrymandered district could reach out and snag my block no matter where I moved. Have y’all seen the goofy boundaries of the 18th?
You run far enough, they’ll never catch you ! 😀
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Serge’
Well it seems we have come full circle. You go right on defending politicians.I am not wasting my time discussing D_n Patrick with you. You are way out of your league on this one.
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Serge’
Well it seems we have come full circle. You go right on defending politicians.
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#56 Darren
Cap’n Crunch is awesome!
Is Cap’n Crunch a pirate? Arrrgh
— Iron Mary Cash
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#56 Darren
Cap’n Crunch is awesome!
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It seems to me that we loan the clocks an hour in the spring, and we are repaid in the fall.
So, let’s talk about the interest rate on those loans.
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It seems to me that we loan the clocks an hour in the spring, and we are repaid in the fall.
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Serge’
Well it seems we have come full circle. You go right on defending politicians.I am not wasting my time discussing D_n Patrick with you. You are way out of your league on this one.
Discussing politicians is not defending them. If you look closely, my “defense” of Patrick is weak at best. I’ll point out that saying that folks you disagree with “just don’t get it” and walking away from the discussion is a pretty familiar occurence.
The only way anybody is going to “get it” about Dan Patrick would be to discuss Dan Patrick and defend those ideas and concepts one has about him. The danger, of course, to both sides in any discussion is that the discussion results in more people agreeing with the other side. I’m willing to do so, you seem not to be. In fact, I’m open to any information that might change my opinion or to have others opinions about him changed to the point where they disagree with me. I’m secure enough in my opinion to be open to discussion and have it challenged with new information or polite discourse.
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Serge’
Well it seems we have come full circle. You go right on defending politicians.
I am not wasting my time discussing D_n Patrick with you. You are way out of your league on this one.Discussing politicians is not defending them. If you look closely, my “defense” of Patrick is weak at best. I’ll point out that saying that folks you disagree with “just don’t get it” and walking away from the discussion is a pretty familiar occurence.
The only way anybody is going to “get it” about Dan Patrick would be to discuss Dan Patrick and defend those ideas and concepts one has about him. The danger, of course, to both sides in any discussion is that the discussion results in more people agreeing with the other side. I’m willing to do so, you seem not to be. In fact, I’m open to any information that might change my opinion or to have others opinions about him changed to the point where they disagree with me. I’m secure enough in my opinion to be open to discussion and have it challenged with new information or polite discourse. -
Squawk #57;
I’ll refrain from the name calling jokes on that one.
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Squawk #57;
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mharper #64;
He’s the sweetest pirate ever to sale the isles of the supermarket.
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Serge’
There is nothing about D_n Patrick I wish to discuss with you. I made my initial comment and I stand on what I said, what I meant. No need for me to engage in further discussion, or in your case a circular pointless argument.
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Serge’
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#68 Darren
He’s the sweetest pirate
Yeah, I know. I was still buying Cap’n Crunch peanut butter doodles for my husband until he was well into his fifties. I just wanted a chance to say Arrrgh and use my pirate name.
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#68 Darren
He’s the sweetest pirate
Yeah, I know. I was still buying Cap’n Crunch peanut butter doodles for my husband until he was well into his fifties. I just wanted a chance to say Arrrgh and use my pirate name.
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69 squawkbox says:
March 13, 2011 at 11:05 am
Serge’There is nothing about D_n Patrick I wish to discuss with you. I made my initial comment and I stand on what I said, what I meant. No need for me to engage in further discussion, or in your case a circular pointless argument.
Fine. But you take the chance of people noting that one side is willing to discuss and have their mind changed, while the other claims special knowledge that would change their mind but won’t share it with us and says that the reason they don’t give us that information is that the guy asking to have his mind changed is somehow at fault.
They may also note that the initial comments were an intimation that Dan Patrick is somehow anti-Liberty, an accusation that is serious against an elected official, but presented nothing to back that up—and resists requests for the information.
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69 squawkbox says:
March 13, 2011 at 11:05 am
Serge’
There is nothing about D_n Patrick I wish to discuss with you. I made my initial comment and I stand on what I said, what I meant. No need for me to engage in further discussion, or in your case a circular pointless argument.Fine. But you take the chance of people noting that one side is willing to discuss and have their mind changed, while the other claims special knowledge that would change their mind but won’t share it with us and says that the reason they don’t give us that information is that the guy asking to have his mind changed is somehow at fault.
They may also note that the initial comments were an intimation that Dan Patrick is somehow anti-Liberty, an accusation that is serious against an elected official, but presented nothing to back that up—and resists requests for the information. -
mharper #70;
I just wanted a chance to say Arrrgh and use my pirate name.
Yeah, who doesn’t? 🙂
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mharper #70;
I just wanted a chance to say Arrrgh and use my pirate name.
Yeah, who doesn’t? 🙂
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An international team of experts led by American archaeologists may have found Atlantis in the marshy region of southern Spain !!!
The discoveries of his group will be presented Sunday evening at a special show ‘Seeking Atlantis’ on National Geographic Television.
Hi Gang
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An international team of experts led by American archaeologists may have found Atlantis in the marshy region of southern Spain !!!
The discoveries of his group will be presented Sunday evening at a special show ‘Seeking Atlantis’ on National Geographic Television.Hi Gang
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My number 56;
What!?!?!? What fool marked a thumbs down on a Captain’ Crunch promotional post? Must be a commie infiltrator. 🙂
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About Cap’n Crunch, back in the early 60’s we had an IGA and a A&P grocery store in our little town in Alabama. Then the brand new Piggly Wiggly moved in and had a grand opening and gave away all sorts of stuff. One of the items was a single serving box of the then new Cap’n Crunch. My Lil’ Sister and I got about a dozen of them and pigged out. I was sick of the stuff after that. 😉
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About Cap’n Crunch, back in the early 60’s we had an IGA and a A&P grocery store in our little town in Alabama. Then the brand new Piggly Wiggly moved in and had a grand opening and gave away all sorts of stuff. One of the items was a single serving box of the then new Cap’n Crunch. My Lil’ Sister and I got about a dozen of them and pigged out. I was sick of the stuff after that. 😉
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All these worlds are yours except Europa. Attempt no landing there. Use them together, use them in peace.
–HAL 9000, in his final transmission to Earth
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All these worlds are yours except Europa. Attempt no landing there. Use them together, use them in peace.
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Bob & Darren I watched your Blues Brothers in the mall and noticed that it was filmed in the Dixie Mall in Harvey Illinois. Go to Google Maps and type: “15200 Dixie Hwy, Harvey, Cook, Illinois” and you can see the run down mall that has been vacant for 30+ years.
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Bob & Darren I watched your Blues Brothers in the mall and noticed that it was filmed in the Dixie Mall in Harvey Illinois. Go to Google Maps and type: “15200 Dixie Hwy, Harvey, Cook, Illinois” and you can see the run down mall that has been vacant for 30+ years.
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Serge’
It appears to me that my comment was directed to Texpat.
Here let me check. BRB………………
Sorry I was gone so long. I had to drink a cup of coffee and fire up a fine Cuban Cigar.
Yup my comment was directed towards Texpat. And I think he responded. I need to check again. BRB…………
Dang it I hate taking calls when I am engaged in such an intellectual exchange. I’m back. hopefully I will not be called away again.
Yup he responded to me and agreed with me. You then interjected your comments. Dang it let me check to make sure I got this right. BRB (again)……….
Flippin dog had to go out or I woulda been back sooner. Mea culpa for the delay.
Anyway I could care less what is in the movie and the moral implications of anything. I said what I said and that is all I intended to say. Now if you do not mind I will be moving along, I am not here to sway anyones mind or debate (in your case argue) about the movie. Nor am i in the mood to defend, because I do not need to defend, my comment about D_n Patrick.
Have a nice day. 🙂
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Serge’
It appears to me that my comment was directed to Texpat.
Here let me check. BRB………………
Sorry I was gone so long. I had to drink a cup of coffee and fire up a fine Cuban Cigar.
Yup my comment was directed towards Texpat. And I think he responded. I need to check again. BRB…………
Dang it I hate taking calls when I am engaged in such an intellectual exchange. I’m back. hopefully I will not be called away again.
Yup he responded to me and agreed with me. You then interjected your comments. Dang it let me check to make sure I got this right. BRB (again)……….
Flippin dog had to go out or I woulda been back sooner. Mea culpa for the delay.
Anyway I could care less what is in the movie and the moral implications of anything. I said what I said and that is all I intended to say. Now if you do not mind I will be moving along, I am not here to sway anyones mind or debate (in your case argue) about the movie. Nor am i in the mood to defend, because I do not need to defend, my comment about D_n Patrick.
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Just wondering: Are we breaking up into cliques of Big Endians and Little Endians? The plugged-in and the peons ?
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Just wondering: Are we breaking up into cliques of Big Endians and Little Endians? The plugged-in and the peons ?
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#79 Are you suggesting that the well understood psychological phenomena of in-group/out-group behaviors is prevalent here?
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#79 Are you suggesting that the well understood psychological phenomena of in-group/out-group behaviors is prevalent here?
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Dang it forgot my question mark.
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WHERE IS MY EDIT BUTTON????
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I am actually finally starting to feel like I’m making a dent in Mirkwood! I am working on the last few parts of the front “hook” of the dirt pile. Now that I have my own WeedEater, I can tackle it even after the weeds start growing – until the dirt gets baked hard.
Today, I must barbecue for MIL and Aggie Beau. While the meat’s a-cooking, I think I’ll work on the flower bed on the side of the house and move some more dirt. It might rain tomorrow, and I’d like to get the dirt moved so the rain can help it settle.
Housework and paperwork will be taking back seat again today.
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I am actually finally starting to feel like I’m making a dent in Mirkwood! I am working on the last few parts of the front “hook” of the dirt pile. Now that I have my own WeedEater, I can tackle it even after the weeds start growing – until the dirt gets baked hard.
Today, I must barbecue for MIL and Aggie Beau. While the meat’s a-cooking, I think I’ll work on the flower bed on the side of the house and move some more dirt. It might rain tomorrow, and I’d like to get the dirt moved so the rain can help it settle.
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The Brahmin need no edit buttons. 😀
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The Brahmin need no edit buttons. 😀
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#82 Squawk
WHERE IS MY EDIT BUTTON????
I think I saw Bob take it. 😉
You love not being moderator, don’t you? ;D
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#82 Squawk
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79 mharper42 says:
March 13, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Just wondering: Are we breaking up into cliques of Big Endians and Little Endians? The plugged-in and the peons ?There’s times it looks that way, aren’t there?
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79 mharper42 says:
March 13, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Just wondering: Are we breaking up into cliques of Big Endians and Little Endians? The plugged-in and the peons ?There’s times it looks that way, aren’t there?
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Hubby wasn’t feeling well yesterday, and spent his day in his chair. I had picked up “Patton,” so when he asked to watch a movie, it seemed the perfect time to watch it. He thoroughly enjoyed it, as did I. What a character Patton was, and what a brilliant general. If only he could keep his mouth shut! I wonder if he had been the type to control himself like that, if he could have been such an effective leader? Would being more politically astute have blunted his ability to get things done on the battlefield? Would having that personality type of being able to get along have impaired his battlefield prowess?
And the whole reincarnation thing…that was a surprise.
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Hubby wasn’t feeling well yesterday, and spent his day in his chair. I had picked up “Patton,” so when he asked to watch a movie, it seemed the perfect time to watch it. He thoroughly enjoyed it, as did I. What a character Patton was, and what a brilliant general. If only he could keep his mouth shut! I wonder if he had been the type to control himself like that, if he could have been such an effective leader? Would being more politically astute have blunted his ability to get things done on the battlefield? Would having that personality type of being able to get along have impaired his battlefield prowess?
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And FWIW, I notice that’s the way its been working between Establishment Republicans and Tea Partiers.
There’s pretty much been a caonstant attack on the Conservative Republican elected officials who are most closely allied with TPs in the state.
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And FWIW, I notice that’s the way its been working between Establishment Republicans and Tea Partiers.
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Sarge, this is the first time it smacked me in the face. I was not prepared…
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Sarge, this is the first time it smacked me in the face. I was not prepared…
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Muhwahahahahahahahahahaha
Serge’ did you just insinuate that I was an establishment Republican?
Bahahahahahahahahahaha
you so funny
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Muhwahahahahahahahahahaha
Serge’ did you just insinuate that I was an establishment Republican?
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Well;
Lets just hope that there’s not some secret email exchange where folks discuss individuals here where they don’t have the opportunity to defend themselves.
Sometimes, being in a group like that can convince someone that they are so special that its OK to treat folks that way.
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Well;
Lets just hope that there’s not some secret email exchange where folks discuss individuals here where they don’t have the opportunity to defend themselves.
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Squawk;
You’re the furthest thing from an Establishment Republican that there is.
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Sunday seems to be a good day to post this.
In recent months and years, we have watched with increasing distress as
American Muslims have been maligned and attacked as a community.
American Muslims have been made to feel at best unwelcome and at worst
un-American. They have had their patriotism questioned and their
citizenship suspected.As followers of Jesus, these attacks sound all too
familiar to us. Our history, both in this country and in others, has
been marked by too many episodes of similar rhetoric, including
vilification, demonization, and delegitimization as citizens.Unfortunately, our history, both in this country and others, has been also marked by too many episodes of our own commission of such sins. We aim to be on the right side of this issue. To whatever extent we have, as individuals or a community, been on the wrong side of these issues in the past, we ask for the forgiveness of those injured. We offer our forgiveness to any who have injured us.
The values of Jesus and the virtues of the American tradition demand that we raise
our voices against the fear-mongering and hate that have been directed
at our fellow citizens. We affirm the rights of all Muslims to all rights and privileges granted to all citizens of this great country of ours.Invoking our shared Abrahamic heritage
and our commitment to American values, we write today as members of the
American Christian community to affirm, in unequivocal terms, that we stand
in solidarity with American Muslims.We condemn attacks on the Muslim community, both in word and in deed, for they are attacks on us and on all Americans.
We
pledge to speak of and work with American Muslims just as we do with
our fellow American Christians and all other citizens, regardless of race or creed: respectfully, both when we agree and when we
disagree.We hope that our example will inspire our fellow Christians and our fellow Americans to speak and act in the same spirit.
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Sunday seems to be a good day to post this.
In recent months and years, we have watched with increasing distress as
American Muslims have been maligned and attacked as a community.
American Muslims have been made to feel at best unwelcome and at worst
un-American. They have had their patriotism questioned and their
citizenship suspected.
As followers of Jesus, these attacks sound all too
familiar to us. Our history, both in this country and in others, has
been marked by too many episodes of similar rhetoric, including
vilification, demonization, and delegitimization as citizens.
Unfortunately, our history, both in this country and others, has been also marked by too many episodes of our own commission of such sins. We aim to be on the right side of this issue. To whatever extent we have, as individuals or a community, been on the wrong side of these issues in the past, we ask for the forgiveness of those injured. We offer our forgiveness to any who have injured us.
The values of Jesus and the virtues of the American tradition demand that we raise
our voices against the fear-mongering and hate that have been directed
at our fellow citizens. We affirm the rights of all Muslims to all rights and privileges granted to all citizens of this great country of ours.
Invoking our shared Abrahamic heritage
and our commitment to American values, we write today as members of the
American Christian community to affirm, in unequivocal terms, that we stand
in solidarity with American Muslims.
We condemn attacks on the Muslim community, both in word and in deed, for they are attacks on us and on all Americans.
We
pledge to speak of and work with American Muslims just as we do with
our fellow American Christians and all other citizens, regardless of race or creed: respectfully, both when we agree and when we
disagree.
We hope that our example will inspire our fellow Christians and our fellow Americans to speak and act in the same spirit. -
Oh man, Japan just can’t catch a break. Now they have a volcano erupting, further south than where the earthquakes/secondary tremors/tsunami/nuke meltdowns have them devastated. I was at least glad to see the story of one man rescued 10 miles offshore floating on his own roof.
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Oh man, Japan just can’t catch a break. Now they have a volcano erupting, further south than where the earthquakes/secondary tremors/tsunami/nuke meltdowns have them devastated. I was at least glad to see the story of one man rescued 10 miles offshore floating on his own roof.
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Tedtam
You love not being moderator, don’t you? ;D
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Tedtam
You love not being moderator, don’t you? ;D
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#93 Sarge
too many episodes of similar rhetoric
Now you’re off the reservation again. Christians have NEVER committed jihad against other religions, and thus have never been suspected of jihadism. Equating Muslims in any respect with adherents of any other religion is a stretch. Sorry, no sale.
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#93 Sarge
too many episodes of similar rhetoric
Now you’re off the reservation again. Christians have NEVER committed jihad against other religions, and thus have never been suspected of jihadism. Equating Muslims in any respect with adherents of any other religion is a stretch. Sorry, no sale.
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#94I am sending knee mail for those folks. May God bless ’em. They say disasters come in threes hopefully this will end soon.
What is really scary for them folks is they always seem to catch the brunt of a typhoon sometime in the season.
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#94
I am sending knee mail for those folks. May God bless ’em. They say disasters come in threes hopefully this will end soon.
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Now you’re off the reservation again. Christians have NEVER committed jihad against other religions, and thus have never been suspected of jihadism. Equating Muslims in any respect with adherents of any other religion is a stretch. Sorry, no sale.
If rhetoric and jihad were the same thing, you might have a point.
If all Muslims engaged in violent jihad, you might have a point.
But neither is true.
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Now you’re off the reservation again. Christians have NEVER committed jihad against other religions, and thus have never been suspected of jihadism. Equating Muslims in any respect with adherents of any other religion is a stretch. Sorry, no sale.
If rhetoric and jihad were the same thing, you might have a point.
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I just walked downstairs to find my daughter at the piano, with headphones on, and trying learn this song, by ear. I was worried at first, but relieved when she explained that one of her pals (and also one of my ‘adopted’ kids) had asked her to play it at her wedding in a couple of weeks.
If she pulls it off within the rather short runway, she’s a better keyboardist than I am. She’s getting there, and I am proud of her and confident that she will.
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I just walked downstairs to find my daughter at the piano, with headphones on, and trying learn this song, by ear. I was worried at first, but relieved when she explained that one of her pals (and also one of my ‘adopted’ kids) had asked her to play it at her wedding in a couple of weeks.
If she pulls it off within the rather short runway, she’s a better keyboardist than I am. She’s getting there, and I am proud of her and confident that she will.
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#97 I guess a typhoon might clear out some of the rubble at this point. It is heart-breaking to think of human beings being buffeted like this. I am wondering why we don’t see any coverage (I haven’t anyway) of rescue & relief efforts over there.
Well, a little bit of relief news is beginning to show up on Drudge. To make matters worse, it is freezing cold and of course there are no utilities providing heat to many of the refugees.
Is #100 still special? Tim?
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#97 I guess a typhoon might clear out some of the rubble at this point. It is heart-breaking to think of human beings being buffeted like this. I am wondering why we don’t see any coverage (I haven’t anyway) of rescue & relief efforts over there.
Well, a little bit of relief news is beginning to show up on Drudge. To make matters worse, it is freezing cold and of course there are no utilities providing heat to many of the refugees.
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#96 M42, have you been in my stash?
Are you not aware that ever since they appeared, and especially when they were mixed with governments, various religions have (at some times) motivated people to treat each other very badly?
Recommended reading: Constantine’s Sword.
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#96 M42, have you been in my stash?
Are you not aware that ever since they appeared, and especially when they were mixed with governments, various religions have (at some times) motivated people to treat each other very badly?
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Serge’
Not bad for a broad paint brush statement.I
n recent months and years, we have watched with increasing distress as
American Muslims have been maligned and attacked as a community.
American Muslims have been made to feel at best unwelcome and at worst
un-American. They have had their patriotism questioned and their
citizenship suspected.Please show me where this is an endemic problem. All the rhetoric I have seen concerning American Muslims is where is their voice condemning the bad guys. In fact I would wager that those condemning all Muslims is a small group. Most americans would rather just live their lives and not get all caught up in the witch hunting.
We pledge to speak of and work with American Muslims just as we do with
our fellow American Christians and all other citizens, regardless of race or creed: respectfully, both when we agree and when we disagree.We hope that our example will inspire our fellow Christians and our fellow Americans to speak and act in the same spirit.
And I ain’t pledging nothing to any specific group. I treat everyone equally so why should I do some hollow pledging? If someone is going to get wrapped around the axel with me because they disagree with me, that is their problem. I refuse to take responsibility for how someone feeeellllsssss and all the pledging is not going to change a thing. Frankly that type of pandering is nothing more than a display of “white man’s guilt”.
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Serge’
Not bad for a broad paint brush statement.
In recent months and years, we have watched with increasing distress as
American Muslims have been maligned and attacked as a community.
American Muslims have been made to feel at best unwelcome and at worst
un-American. They have had their patriotism questioned and their
citizenship suspected.Please show me where this is an endemic problem. All the rhetoric I have seen concerning American Muslims is where is their voice condemning the bad guys. In fact I would wager that those condemning all Muslims is a small group. Most americans would rather just live their lives and not get all caught up in the witch hunting.
We pledge to speak of and work with American Muslims just as we do with
our fellow American Christians and all other citizens, regardless of race or creed: respectfully, both when we agree and when we disagree.
We hope that our example will inspire our fellow Christians and our fellow Americans to speak and act in the same spirit.And I ain’t pledging nothing to any specific group. I treat everyone equally so why should I do some hollow pledging? If someone is going to get wrapped around the axel with me because they disagree with me, that is their problem. I refuse to take responsibility for how someone feeeellllsssss and all the pledging is not going to change a thing. Frankly that type of pandering is nothing more than a display of “white man’s guilt”.
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If I wrote that, I might be able to explain all that’s in it, although it does include my motivation for posting it and signing onto it:
As followers of Jesus, these attacks sound all too
familiar to us. Our history, both in this country and in others, has
been marked by too many episodes of similar rhetoric, including
vilification, demonization, and delegitimization as citizens.Unfortunately, our history, both in this country and others, has been also marked by too many episodes of our own commission of such sins. We aim to be on the right side of this issue. To whatever extent we have, as individuals or a community, been on the wrong side of these issues in the past, we ask for the forgiveness of those injured. We offer our forgiveness to any who have injured us.
The values of Jesus and the virtues of the American tradition demand that we raise
our voices against the fear-mongering and hate that have been directed
at our fellow citizens. We affirm the rights of all Muslims to all rights and privileges granted to all citizens of this great country of ours. -
If I wrote that, I might be able to explain all that’s in it, although it does include my motivation for posting it and signing onto it:
As followers of Jesus, these attacks sound all too
familiar to us. Our history, both in this country and in others, has
been marked by too many episodes of similar rhetoric, including
vilification, demonization, and delegitimization as citizens.
Unfortunately, our history, both in this country and others, has been also marked by too many episodes of our own commission of such sins. We aim to be on the right side of this issue. To whatever extent we have, as individuals or a community, been on the wrong side of these issues in the past, we ask for the forgiveness of those injured. We offer our forgiveness to any who have injured us.
The values of Jesus and the virtues of the American tradition demand that we raise
our voices against the fear-mongering and hate that have been directed
at our fellow citizens. We affirm the rights of all Muslims to all rights and privileges granted to all citizens of this great country of ours. -
The short answer would be that I condemn the broad brush demonizing of Islam because I am a Christian.
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The short answer would be that I condemn the broad brush demonizing of Islam because I am a Christian.
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Sarge, I know I won’t be signing a pledge.
The religon of peace my *sshttp://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/12/us-palestinians-israel-violence-idUSTRE72B0B920110312
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Sarge, I know I won’t be signing a pledge.
The religon of peace my *ss
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/12/us-palestinians-israel-violence-idUSTRE72B0B920110312
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4041106,00.html -
Signing some pledge like that implies guilt. I am not guilty of nothing.
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Signing some pledge like that implies guilt. I am not guilty of nothing.
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106 squawkbox says:
March 13, 2011 at 4:00 pm
Signing some pledge like that implies guilt. I am not guilty of nothing.I can’t see how it would imply guilt at all.
Seriously.
The only thing I’m guilty of is my own Sin. I know how to take care of that. It does involve signing on to a pledge of sorts.
Those Christians who can’t identify with the message of that petition. or those who think it impliues guilt, don’t have to sign it. Those who feel as I do, that the message of Christ’s forgiveness compels me to sign it, will understand. Other Christians, who’s devotion and faith is equal to or greater than mine will not see it as I do.
That’s pretty much true about anything.
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106 squawkbox says:
March 13, 2011 at 4:00 pm
Signing some pledge like that implies guilt. I am not guilty of nothing.I can’t see how it would imply guilt at all.
Seriously.
The only thing I’m guilty of is my own Sin. I know how to take care of that. It does involve signing on to a pledge of sorts.
Those Christians who can’t identify with the message of that petition. or those who think it impliues guilt, don’t have to sign it. Those who feel as I do, that the message of Christ’s forgiveness compels me to sign it, will understand. Other Christians, who’s devotion and faith is equal to or greater than mine will not see it as I do.
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I am not guilty of nothing.
Umm, where’s our resident English teacher?
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I am not guilty of nothing.
Umm, where’s our resident English teacher?
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#101 Bob
“treat each other very badly?”
Crap.
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#101 Bob
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Bob42
Are you not aware that ever since they appeared, and especially when they were mixed with governments, various religions have (at some times) motivated people to treat each other very badly?
Once again the broad brush of Bob comes out. “Religion” abused by humans motivate people to do bad things. I can pervert the message in Mad Magazine into a religion and treat you like Spy V/S Spy. Call me Pastor Alfred E Neuman leader of the “What me worry World Wide Church and Bar”.
The message of Christianity as outlined by Jesus says love your neighbor as yourself. It is when people pervert that message that people, innocent people get hurt. IN FACT The Apostles were told to spread the message of the Gospel (Good News) of Jesus Christ and if a town would not hear the message the Apostles were to do no more than stamp the dust of the town off their feet and move on. Those that abused the message of the book ignored that command.
So with you I will just stamp the dust off my feet and move along.
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Bob42
Are you not aware that ever since they appeared, and especially when they were mixed with governments, various religions have (at some times) motivated people to treat each other very badly?
Once again the broad brush of Bob comes out. “Religion” abused by humans motivate people to do bad things. I can pervert the message in Mad Magazine into a religion and treat you like Spy V/S Spy. Call me Pastor Alfred E Neuman leader of the “What me worry World Wide Church and Bar”.
The message of Christianity as outlined by Jesus says love your neighbor as yourself. It is when people pervert that message that people, innocent people get hurt. IN FACT The Apostles were told to spread the message of the Gospel (Good News) of Jesus Christ and if a town would not hear the message the Apostles were to do no more than stamp the dust of the town off their feet and move on. Those that abused the message of the book ignored that command.
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#109/#110, If I’ve said anything untruthful on the topic, I’ll be quite pleased to eat my hat.
To complete the thought, may I remind folks (again) that I’ve often stated that the tendency of our species to develop the numerous belief systems that we have is innate, probably a component of evolutionary benefit to our survival, and very largely a beneficial experience to many individuals.
I can stand by that factual statement while at the same time recognizing the ill treatments to fellow human beings that have accompanied pretty much all religions throughout humankind’s relatively short dominion of our planet.
There’s no need to take offense, or be defensive. Live and let live. (Again) if it works for you and harms no one, that’s fine with me.
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#109/#110, If I’ve said anything untruthful on the topic, I’ll be quite pleased to eat my hat.
To complete the thought, may I remind folks (again) that I’ve often stated that the tendency of our species to develop the numerous belief systems that we have is innate, probably a component of evolutionary benefit to our survival, and very largely a beneficial experience to many individuals.
I can stand by that factual statement while at the same time recognizing the ill treatments to fellow human beings that have accompanied pretty much all religions throughout humankind’s relatively short dominion of our planet.
There’s no need to take offense, or be defensive. Live and let live. (Again) if it works for you and harms no one, that’s fine with me. -
Bob42
There’s no need to take offense, or be defensive.
Neither of which apply to me. I am stating a fact.
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Bob42
There’s no need to take offense, or be defensive.
Neither of which apply to me. I am stating a fact.
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Bobo loves the testimonies of liberal foaming-at-the-mouth former religious like James Carroll who have “seen the light” and have become rabid in their hatred for all traditions of the Church. Yet another example of his anti-God bigotry cloaked in his tired old (and false) “live and let live” meme.
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If you choose to read Constantine’s Sword I suggest balancing out Carroll’s angry, liberal agenda-driven hatred with The Myth of Hitler’s Pope by Rabbi David Dalin.
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Bobo loves the testimonies of liberal foaming-at-the-mouth former religious like James Carroll who have “seen the light” and have become rabid in their hatred for all traditions of the Church. Yet another example of his anti-God bigotry cloaked in his tired old (and false) “live and let live” meme.
/yawn
If you choose to read Constantine’s Sword I suggest balancing out Carroll’s angry, liberal agenda-driven hatred with The Myth of Hitler’s Pope by Rabbi David Dalin. -
Once again the broad brush of Bob comes out. “Religion” abused by humans motivate people to do bad things.
Which is pretty much my point about the way some folks portray Islam.
And I’d be a hypocrite if I condemend Bob42 for broad brushing religon in general and not condemn those who do it to any specifc religion. -
Bob42
If I’ve said anything untruthful on the topic, I’ll be quite pleased to eat my hat.
How bout the plethora of half truths and conjecture? Would you like salsa with your hat? I hear Fedoras and salsa are pretty good.
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Bob42
If I’ve said anything untruthful on the topic, I’ll be quite pleased to eat my hat.
How bout the plethora of half truths and conjecture? Would you like salsa with your hat? I hear Fedoras and salsa are pretty good.
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Good evening Hamsters. Have been closeted yesterday and today getting ready for the Fort Bend County Tea Party fundraiser this afternoon from 3-5 at the Swinging Door just across the Brazos from Richmond. Good turnout for the BBQ buffet, tea party merchandise, and silent auction. I’m in charge of the silent auctions for the group and have manged many of them over the years for horse clubs and regional and charity horse shows.
I sat down for maybe 15 minutes for lunch bewteen 1:30 and 5:30, and amazingly the concrete floor in the meeting hall didn’t get any softer. So my feet now seem only distantly attached, but they are complaining anyway. There will be no problem getting to sleep tonight, maybe just a problem staying awake this eveing. And then there’s the Daylight Saving Time
adjustment to contend with. Mariposa was lookig rather plaintively at me and wondering where supper is. Cats have staff, so she’s fed.I’m about to go on autopilot. G’night all.
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Good evening Hamsters. Have been closeted yesterday and today getting ready for the Fort Bend County Tea Party fundraiser this afternoon from 3-5 at the Swinging Door just across the Brazos from Richmond. Good turnout for the BBQ buffet, tea party merchandise, and silent auction. I’m in charge of the silent auctions for the group and have manged many of them over the years for horse clubs and regional and charity horse shows.
I sat down for maybe 15 minutes for lunch bewteen 1:30 and 5:30, and amazingly the concrete floor in the meeting hall didn’t get any softer. So my feet now seem only distantly attached, but they are complaining anyway. There will be no problem getting to sleep tonight, maybe just a problem staying awake this eveing. And then there’s the Daylight Saving Time
adjustment to contend with. Mariposa was lookig rather plaintively at me and wondering where supper is. Cats have staff, so she’s fed.
I’m about to go on autopilot. G’night all. -
#115 My hat is a latticework of juicy ripe strawberries, sweet beyond belief cherries, and a fig or two thrown in for good measure. My lovely companion and soul mate suggests dipping each remaining edge of the hat in warmed milk chocolate before eating it.
But back to reality;
Would it be possible for you to be a bit more specific?
How bout the plethora of half truths and conjecture?
On second thought, is it possible for you to be a lot more specific?
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#115 My hat is a latticework of juicy ripe strawberries, sweet beyond belief cherries, and a fig or two thrown in for good measure. My lovely companion and soul mate suggests dipping each remaining edge of the hat in warmed milk chocolate before eating it.
But back to reality;
Would it be possible for you to be a bit more specific?How bout the plethora of half truths and conjecture?
On second thought, is it possible for you to be a lot more specific?
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bob #111;
I can stand by that factual statement while at the same time recognizing the ill treatments to fellow human beings that have accompanied pretty much all religions throughout humankind’s relatively short dominion of our planet.
Especially when Atheism is combined with governmet? That’s been responsible for slaughtering far more than any organization and combination of organizations in the history of humanity.
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bob #111;
I can stand by that factual statement while at the same time recognizing the ill treatments to fellow human beings that have accompanied pretty much all religions throughout humankind’s relatively short dominion of our planet.
Especially when Atheism is combined with governmet? That’s been responsible for slaughtering far more than any organization and combination of organizations in the history of humanity.
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On second thought, is it possible for you to be a lot more specific?
Sure when do you want to meet up for a face to face? My fingers are too tired to type a book.
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On second thought, is it possible for you to be a lot more specific?
Sure when do you want to meet up for a face to face? My fingers are too tired to type a book.
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Squawkie, despite our differences, I’d be very honored to meet you. Perhaps we could enjoy a lunch together sometime and chat. Since you’re a bit north and I’m a bit south, might I suggest Treebeards downtown location?
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Squawkie, despite our differences, I’d be very honored to meet you. Perhaps we could enjoy a lunch together sometime and chat. Since you’re a bit north and I’m a bit south, might I suggest Treebeards downtown location?
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#117 boob42
My hat is a latticework of juicy ripe strawberries, sweet beyond belief cherries, and a fig or two thrown in for good measure. My lovely companion and soul mate suggests dipping each remaining edge of the hat in warmed milk chocolate before eating it.
Bobby as Carmen Miranda….that’s one I never quite dreamed of before.
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#117 boob42
My hat is a latticework of juicy ripe strawberries, sweet beyond belief cherries, and a fig or two thrown in for good measure. My lovely companion and soul mate suggests dipping each remaining edge of the hat in warmed milk chocolate before eating it.
Bobby as Carmen Miranda….that’s one I never quite dreamed of before.
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HERE’S a place Squawk and Bob can meet.
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HERE’S a place Squawk and Bob can meet.
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that’s one I never quite dreamed of before
Please be careful mentioning dreaming to bob. He likes to publically report on all sorts of his dreams.
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that’s one I never quite dreamed of before
Please be careful mentioning dreaming to bob. He likes to publically report on all sorts of his dreams.
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Shockingly, aging rock group AC/DC beat some of today’s hottest stars with $114M.
Whoohoo! Their success is raising hells bells.
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Shockingly, aging rock group AC/DC beat some of today’s hottest stars with $114M.
Whoohoo! Their success is raising hells bells.
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“Some people say we have thirteen albums that all sound the same. That isn’t true. We have fourteen albums that all sound the same.”
– Angus YoungLOL!
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“Some people say we have thirteen albums that all sound the same. That isn’t true. We have fourteen albums that all sound the same.”
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#121 Texpat,
Bobby as Carmen Miranda….that’s one I never quite dreamed of before.
Please do not share your dreams of me playing the roles of other performers!
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#121 Texpat,
Bobby as Carmen Miranda….that’s one I never quite dreamed of before.
Please do not share your dreams of me playing the roles of other performers!
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bob #126;
Please do not share your dreams of me playing the roles of other performers!
He doesn’t have to. i believed he said:
that’s one I never quite dreamed of before
Now, stop downrating my posts. You’re killing my reputation. 🙂
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bob #126;
Please do not share your dreams of me playing the roles of other performers!
He doesn’t have to. i believed he said:
that’s one I never quite dreamed of before
Now, stop downrating my posts. You’re killing my reputation. 🙂
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Darren, I don’t think I’ve down thumbed any of your comments today.
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Darren, I don’t think I’ve down thumbed any of your comments today.
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This MSNBC headline on Drudge “GE-designed reactors in Fukushima have 23 sisters in USA…” seems crafted to alarm Americans. But none of these GE-model reactors in the US are sitting on top of the Ring of Fire. I’m sure some things can be learned from Japan’s nuke plant disasters, but why foment needless anxiety here?
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This MSNBC headline on Drudge “GE-designed reactors in Fukushima have 23 sisters in USA…” seems crafted to alarm Americans. But none of these GE-model reactors in the US are sitting on top of the Ring of Fire. I’m sure some things can be learned from Japan’s nuke plant disasters, but why foment needless anxiety here?
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Oh, my goodness. I hope and pray all people are safe.
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Fukushima Explosion
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I’ve been quietly sitting at the top of the stairs, listening to daughter work on her assigned performance piece, and resisting the temptation to offer advice, until asked. (It ain’t easy.)
When she did ask for advice, I told her that it was a difficult piece and that she needed to work on it at least two hours a day, every day, to be able to pull off the gig. It’s a pretty complex arrangement of a very familiar tune. Variation, if done well, might be appreciated, but accuracy is still important. Whatever happens during performance, it has to make musical sense, and retain a clear relation to the traditional and recognized renditions that people expect to hear.
My final advice to her tonight, after her fingers were tired, was to put the headphones on, and follow along, measure by measure, with the sheet music we printed out earlier today from the web.
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I’ve been quietly sitting at the top of the stairs, listening to daughter work on her assigned performance piece, and resisting the temptation to offer advice, until asked. (It ain’t easy.)
When she did ask for advice, I told her that it was a difficult piece and that she needed to work on it at least two hours a day, every day, to be able to pull off the gig. It’s a pretty complex arrangement of a very familiar tune. Variation, if done well, might be appreciated, but accuracy is still important. Whatever happens during performance, it has to make musical sense, and retain a clear relation to the traditional and recognized renditions that people expect to hear.
My final advice to her tonight, after her fingers were tired, was to put the headphones on, and follow along, measure by measure, with the sheet music we printed out earlier today from the web. -
It’s been at least a couple of years now that on another forum I was challenged to defend nuclear reactor’s safety. According to Wiki, the most injuries suffered from nuclear reactor accidents were in Japan (after Russia, of course). Still, for the record, there have been far more injuries and fatalites in traditional power plants than nuclear power plants. especially when considering the many, perhaps dozens, of nuclear plants floating around in the US Navy and the hundreds of personnel that work and live around those reactors on a daily basis.
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It’s been at least a couple of years now that on another forum I was challenged to defend nuclear reactor’s safety. According to Wiki, the most injuries suffered from nuclear reactor accidents were in Japan (after Russia, of course). Still, for the record, there have been far more injuries and fatalites in traditional power plants than nuclear power plants. especially when considering the many, perhaps dozens, of nuclear plants floating around in the US Navy and the hundreds of personnel that work and live around those reactors on a daily basis.
WIKI Link
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