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Friday Jews In Space Open Comments

You gotta hand it to the Israelis. They have that indomitable spirit that yearns to see new things and make discoveries wherever that may be.

If Yariv Bash, Kfir Damari and Yonatan Winetraub succeed and send a robot to the moon, they’ll donate their millions in prize money to promote science among Israel youth. Yesterday the trio announced their participation in the Google Lunar X Prize competition – an effort to send an unmanned vehicle to the moon and beam back high-quality photos and short films.

They do seem to getting help from somewhere. A couple of weeks ago Jerusalem was visited by a strange presence.

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  1. El Gordo Avatar
    El Gordo

    The moon may be the only place left for them to go once Dear Leader and his thugs complete their takeover of Egypt and the surrounding neighborhoods – under the shield of “democracy” of course.

  2. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Let’s have an Obama Day today. Now, how do I go about getting a check for taking the day off and not working?

  3. El Gordo Avatar
    El Gordo

    Let’s have an Obama Day today. Now, how do I go about getting a check for taking the day off and not working?

  4. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    To all the yankees out there having a good laugh at the panic down here over this Artic Blast, I agree and think the media has gone stupid. But I have a question for the tired smarty pants statement- People don’t know how to drive in it down here– just how do you drive on ice. Remember, we’ve been watching the national news,…..and the videos of the professional drivers up north.

  5. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    To all the yankees out there having a good laugh at the panic down here over this Artic Blast, I agree and think the media has gone stupid. But I have a question for the tired smarty pants statement- People don’t know how to drive in it down here– just how do you drive on ice. Remember, we’ve been watching the national news,…..and the videos of the professional drivers up north.

  6. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    #2 El Gordo

    I’m having an Obama Day, I could get used to it…….I don’t have to actually use the bumper sticker that came in the kit do I?

  7. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #2 El Gordo
    I’m having an Obama Day, I could get used to it…….I don’t have to actually use the bumper sticker that came in the kit do I?

  8. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    C’mon County Judge Emmet, you know you wanna say it. Hunker Down!

  9. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    C’mon County Judge Emmet, you know you wanna say it. Hunker Down!

  10. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    TGIF yall Hamoustonians™

    Um…………….. is there more weather weirdness afoot? Only INVISIBLE snowflakes here in Katy……………………….

  11. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    TGIF yall Hamoustonians™
    Um…………….. is there more weather weirdness afoot? Only INVISIBLE snowflakes here in Katy……………………….

  12. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Here’s news from the nanny/police state.

    Bring a nerf ball shooter to school, get arrested.

    No one was hurt, but the pint-size softshooter now faces misdemeanor criminal charges.

    Hammonton Police began an investigation into the “suspicious activity” at the Hammonton Early Childhood Education Center Jan. 18 after school officials alerted them to the incident.
    The “gun” the child brought to school was a $5 toy gun, similar to a Nerf gun, that shoots soft ping pong type balls, according to the school’s superintendent.

    I could see suspension or other disciplinary action, but to expel a kid over a pea shooter?

    Spotsylvania school officials declined to comment on the incident, citing student confidentiality rules. But documents that the school produced when Mikel’s father filed a Freedom of Information Act request show internal division over the matter.

    The federal Gun-Free Schools Act mandates that schools expel students who take weapons, including hand guns, explosive devices and projectile weapons, to school. E-mail traffic among school officials showed they ruled that Mikel’s plastic tube, which was fashioned from a pen casing, met the definition of a projectile weapon because it was “used to intimidate, threaten or harm others.”

  13. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    Here’s news from the nanny/police state.
    Bring a nerf ball shooter to school, get arrested.

    No one was hurt, but the pint-size softshooter now faces misdemeanor criminal charges.
    Hammonton Police began an investigation into the “suspicious activity” at the Hammonton Early Childhood Education Center Jan. 18 after school officials alerted them to the incident.
    The “gun” the child brought to school was a $5 toy gun, similar to a Nerf gun, that shoots soft ping pong type balls, according to the school’s superintendent.

    I could see suspension or other disciplinary action, but to expel a kid over a pea shooter?

    Spotsylvania school officials declined to comment on the incident, citing student confidentiality rules. But documents that the school produced when Mikel’s father filed a Freedom of Information Act request show internal division over the matter.
    The federal Gun-Free Schools Act mandates that schools expel students who take weapons, including hand guns, explosive devices and projectile weapons, to school. E-mail traffic among school officials showed they ruled that Mikel’s plastic tube, which was fashioned from a pen casing, met the definition of a projectile weapon because it was “used to intimidate, threaten or harm others.”

  14. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Hey, where’s my snow? I do like the row of icicles hanging from the gazebo roofline, though.

    Husband wanted to go to the Post Office and would not take my advice to wait until it is above freezing. It’s only a few miles but you have to cross a long bridge over White Oak Bayou to get there. I have no idea whether the city has been sanding the bridges and overpasses.

  15. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Hey, where’s my snow? I do like the row of icicles hanging from the gazebo roofline, though.
    Husband wanted to go to the Post Office and would not take my advice to wait until it is above freezing. It’s only a few miles but you have to cross a long bridge over White Oak Bayou to get there. I have no idea whether the city has been sanding the bridges and overpasses.

  16. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I wanna git me one of them jobs where you can be wrong 70% of the time and get paid good money.

  17. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    I wanna git me one of them jobs where you can be wrong 70% of the time and get paid good money.

  18. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Like beng a .300 hitter?

  19. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Like beng a .300 hitter?

  20. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    G’Morning all

    is there more weather weirdness afoot? Only INVISIBLE snowflakes here in Katy……………………….

    I’m now taking bets. How soon til a report of someone getting their tongue stuck on a metal object? (Disclaimer: I didn’t say I was paying off, just taking the bet.)

  21. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    G’Morning all

    is there more weather weirdness afoot? Only INVISIBLE snowflakes here in Katy……………………….

    I’m now taking bets. How soon til a report of someone getting their tongue stuck on a metal object? (Disclaimer: I didn’t say I was paying off, just taking the bet.)

  22. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    The Texas house speaker dispute got the attention of the Jon Stewart program.

    Texas is a republican stronghold. But are the right kind of republicans really in power there? John Oliver headed to the Lone Star State to find out.

    The Rabbi Oliver interviews is an excellent straight man.

  23. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    The Texas house speaker dispute got the attention of the Jon Stewart program.

    Texas is a republican stronghold. But are the right kind of republicans really in power there? John Oliver headed to the Lone Star State to find out.

    The Rabbi Oliver interviews is an excellent straight man.

  24. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Like beng a .300 hitter?

    Or a politician.

  25. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Like beng a .300 hitter?

    Or a politician.

  26. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Hey, where’s my snow?

    Does the grass crunching when you walk on it count?

  27. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Hey, where’s my snow?

    Does the grass crunching when you walk on it count?

  28. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    I Googled the term Snobish Elitest and here’s the result.
    (BTW, she resigned January 31st to spend more time with her family.)

    As a supporter of presidential candidate Barack Obama, Cynthia Stroum was a superstar whose financial backing of the campaign landed her a plum diplomatic posting in Europe.

    As America’s ambassador to Luxembourg, the wealthy Seattle-based businesswoman was a disaster. According to an internal State Department report released Thursday, less than a week after she quit, Stroum’s management of the U.S. Embassy in the tiny country was abysmal. The report says her tenure of about one year was fraught with personality conflicts, verbal abuse and questionable expenditures on travel, wine and liquor.

    More:

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OBAMA_DONOR_AMBASSADOR?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=US

  29. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    I Googled the term Snobish Elitest and here’s the result.
    (BTW, she resigned January 31st to spend more time with her family.)

    As a supporter of presidential candidate Barack Obama, Cynthia Stroum was a superstar whose financial backing of the campaign landed her a plum diplomatic posting in Europe.
    As America’s ambassador to Luxembourg, the wealthy Seattle-based businesswoman was a disaster. According to an internal State Department report released Thursday, less than a week after she quit, Stroum’s management of the U.S. Embassy in the tiny country was abysmal. The report says her tenure of about one year was fraught with personality conflicts, verbal abuse and questionable expenditures on travel, wine and liquor.

    More:
    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OBAMA_DONOR_AMBASSADOR?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=US

  30. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    I have no idea whether the city has been sanding the bridges and overpasses.

    Apparently not.

    http://traffic.houstontranstar.org/layers/

  31. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    I have no idea whether the city has been sanding the bridges and overpasses.

    Apparently not.
    http://traffic.houstontranstar.org/layers/

  32. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    The Muppet Show – Pigs in Space:Star Wars Cast Board the Swinetrek (pt 1&2) and the Finale

    It would be considered way too politically incorrect to launch a side spoof called Jewwwwwz in Spaaaaaace Not even Mekl Brooks could pull that off today.

  33. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    The Muppet Show – Pigs in Space:Star Wars Cast Board the Swinetrek (pt 1&2) and the Finale
    It would be considered way too politically incorrect to launch a side spoof called Jewwwwwz in Spaaaaaace Not even Mekl Brooks could pull that off today.

  34. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Citrus growers excited about new seedless mandarin

    BAKERSFIELD, Calif. (AP) — California orange growers plan to begin harvesting a new variety of seedless mandarin orange this month that they think will appeal to consumers and lower their expenses.
    The most popular varieties of mandarins, such as Satsuma, are self-pollinating and don’t need help from bees to produce fruit. But, their flowers still attract bees carrying pollen from other citrus varieties, and contact with that results in seeds in the fruit.

    One farmer said it gave him a tingle up his leg.

  35. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Citrus growers excited about new seedless mandarin
    BAKERSFIELD, Calif. (AP) — California orange growers plan to begin harvesting a new variety of seedless mandarin orange this month that they think will appeal to consumers and lower their expenses.
    The most popular varieties of mandarins, such as Satsuma, are self-pollinating and don’t need help from bees to produce fruit. But, their flowers still attract bees carrying pollen from other citrus varieties, and contact with that results in seeds in the fruit.

    One farmer said it gave him a tingle up his leg.

  36. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    We wuz robbed!

    Cars have a light coating of ice on their windward sides, otherwise nuttin.

    btw – we’re in beautiful unincorporated NW Harris County.

  37. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    We wuz robbed!
    Cars have a light coating of ice on their windward sides, otherwise nuttin.
    btw – we’re in beautiful unincorporated NW Harris County.

  38. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Animal Magnetism?

    No, we are not talking about mating habits here. We are talking about the ability of some animals to use the Earth’s magnetic field to navigate and in the case of foxes, to find prey.
    – – –
    While Dr. Hynek Burda from the University of Duisburg-Essen, Germany was observing the animals, he noticed that when the prey was hidden, the foxes almost always jumped on their prey in a northeast direction resulting in a 72% success rate of capturing prey, compared to only 18% when the jumps were in a random direction. Dr. John Phillips at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg suggested that the foxes might be using the Earth’s magnetic field to estimate distance.

  39. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    Animal Magnetism?

    No, we are not talking about mating habits here. We are talking about the ability of some animals to use the Earth’s magnetic field to navigate and in the case of foxes, to find prey.
    – – –
    While Dr. Hynek Burda from the University of Duisburg-Essen, Germany was observing the animals, he noticed that when the prey was hidden, the foxes almost always jumped on their prey in a northeast direction resulting in a 72% success rate of capturing prey, compared to only 18% when the jumps were in a random direction. Dr. John Phillips at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg suggested that the foxes might be using the Earth’s magnetic field to estimate distance.

  40. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Bob #12;

    That was pretty funny.

  41. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Bob #12;
    That was pretty funny.

  42. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    News update from our most entertaining state:

    A possibly transgendered, thong sporting person may have used counterfeit cash to pay for delivery pizza in Fort Pierce, according to recently released police records.

    Possible tranny? Where would one hide one’s junk in a thong?

  43. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    News update from our most entertaining state:

    A possibly transgendered, thong sporting person may have used counterfeit cash to pay for delivery pizza in Fort Pierce, according to recently released police records.

    Possible tranny? Where would one hide one’s junk in a thong?

  44. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Good icy morning all. Down to 25 at 6, still windy, no snow, just ice on everything. Except for an apparently warmer driveway that is–water puddles there. Seems like the wind has steadily been with us since the front roared in on Tuesday.

    Getting to the barn was interesting. Close to the house the stepping bricks were just wet, but the grass was crunchy and sparkly. A few feet farther out everything on the pathway was iced, and walking on the grass was the only sensible place, though just less slippery. Getting through the people gate next to the barn was tricky since there is only the icy walkway and no grass for a couple of feet. Solved that by opening the gate and hanging onto the gate post, then stepping on the slightly less slippery gravel between the bricks and onto the grass on the other side. Have made the trip twice this morning to feed the mares early and later to give them hay. They need water buckets filled before too long. We can probably get away with briefly turning on the water to the barn. Perhaps the smart move would be to put two buckets in each stall since it will be in the low 20s tonight.

    The Chronicle was amazingly at the end of the driveway so perhaps the road isn’t as cold and icy as the surrounding ground. But the newspaper tube was sitting on the driveway apron that is iced. Managed to reach it with one foot on dry driveway and the other on the apron and not slip. Marched back to the house on the grass.

    Everybody be safe out there in the Winter Follies. Made it to 27–yea.

  45. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Good icy morning all. Down to 25 at 6, still windy, no snow, just ice on everything. Except for an apparently warmer driveway that is–water puddles there. Seems like the wind has steadily been with us since the front roared in on Tuesday.
    Getting to the barn was interesting. Close to the house the stepping bricks were just wet, but the grass was crunchy and sparkly. A few feet farther out everything on the pathway was iced, and walking on the grass was the only sensible place, though just less slippery. Getting through the people gate next to the barn was tricky since there is only the icy walkway and no grass for a couple of feet. Solved that by opening the gate and hanging onto the gate post, then stepping on the slightly less slippery gravel between the bricks and onto the grass on the other side. Have made the trip twice this morning to feed the mares early and later to give them hay. They need water buckets filled before too long. We can probably get away with briefly turning on the water to the barn. Perhaps the smart move would be to put two buckets in each stall since it will be in the low 20s tonight.
    The Chronicle was amazingly at the end of the driveway so perhaps the road isn’t as cold and icy as the surrounding ground. But the newspaper tube was sitting on the driveway apron that is iced. Managed to reach it with one foot on dry driveway and the other on the apron and not slip. Marched back to the house on the grass.
    Everybody be safe out there in the Winter Follies. Made it to 27–yea.

  46. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    In other news from abroad:

    A 51-year-old married father of two is suing GlaxoSmithKline, saying the pharmaceutical company’s drug he took for Parkinson’s disease has turned him into a gambling and gay sex addict, Agence France-Presse reported.

    Uh-huh, riiiiight.

    Jambart alleges he also became a “compulsive gay sex addict and began exposing himself on the Internet and cross-dressing.” Jambart’s attorney said these antics led his client to be raped.

    I think he just wanted to be fffrrrrreeeeeeeeeee!!!

    You RLS sufferers need to take precautions, too.

    Among other label warnings, the National Institutes of Health lists these precautions for the drug Requip, which is also used to treat restless legs syndrome

  47. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    In other news from abroad:

    A 51-year-old married father of two is suing GlaxoSmithKline, saying the pharmaceutical company’s drug he took for Parkinson’s disease has turned him into a gambling and gay sex addict, Agence France-Presse reported.

    Uh-huh, riiiiight.

    Jambart alleges he also became a “compulsive gay sex addict and began exposing himself on the Internet and cross-dressing.” Jambart’s attorney said these antics led his client to be raped.

    I think he just wanted to be fffrrrrreeeeeeeeeee!!!
    You RLS sufferers need to take precautions, too.

    Among other label warnings, the National Institutes of Health lists these precautions for the drug Requip, which is also used to treat restless legs syndrome

  48. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    64 Bonecrusher says:
    February 3, 2011 at 5:03 pm
    #60 Sarge:

    In fact, I’m probably more familiar with the spread of Islam throughout the South Pacific and the Phillipines than you are.

    You are correct there. How much was done at the point of a sword/gun? How many girls have been circumcised and how may wear a form of the hijab? What do you think will happen if some of those in Se Asia choose to turn away from islam? Do you think they will escape with their life?

    It is difficult to know how much of the spread of Islam throughout the western Pacific as accomplished through the sword as it occured nhundreds of years before Europeans arrived and little history is written. Since it was spread through trade with uncivilized pagan cultures, one can assume that it involved just as much as the spread of Christianity throughout the pagan tribes and kingdoms of Eastern and Western Europe in the Post-Roman period.

    When the Spanish arrived in the Phillipine archpelago, Islam was the dominant religion and had been for at least several hundred years (and closer to a thousand), whereupon the Catholic Spaniards undertook to convert them at the point of the sword—which is well documented.

    The fact of the matter is that all of the worlds great religions spread through warfare, waged by political entitities that used the church as either an excuse or an ally in order to gain territory and power. When the Spaniards landed on the continents in this hemisphere, they waged campaigns of genocide and slavery against the pagans they found here, using the need for conversion as an excuse and a means to an end. You will not find a single person practicing Inca, Aztec, or Mayan religions in South and Central America because the Spaniards were successful in converting those who survived to Catholisism. When the English and French landed in North America, they endeavored to convert the tribes the found here, but did so using less violent means, what violence was visited on the tribes found were more of a military/political nature, with the French killing Indians allied with the English and the English killing those allied with the French. The Spanish (and to a lesser extent the Dutch) practiced what could be called “Political Catholisism” much in the same way that some Arabic and Persian nations (or organized poltical groups wishing to take power in them) practise “Political Islam.”

    Islam is about 200 years younger than Christianity and has followed a similar path. This puts Islam’s evolution as a religion about where Christianity was in the late 1800’s.

    So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
    John 8:7

  49. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    64 Bonecrusher says:
    February 3, 2011 at 5:03 pm
    #60 Sarge:

    In fact, I’m probably more familiar with the spread of Islam throughout the South Pacific and the Phillipines than you are.

    You are correct there. How much was done at the point of a sword/gun? How many girls have been circumcised and how may wear a form of the hijab? What do you think will happen if some of those in Se Asia choose to turn away from islam? Do you think they will escape with their life?

    It is difficult to know how much of the spread of Islam throughout the western Pacific as accomplished through the sword as it occured nhundreds of years before Europeans arrived and little history is written. Since it was spread through trade with uncivilized pagan cultures, one can assume that it involved just as much as the spread of Christianity throughout the pagan tribes and kingdoms of Eastern and Western Europe in the Post-Roman period.
    When the Spanish arrived in the Phillipine archpelago, Islam was the dominant religion and had been for at least several hundred years (and closer to a thousand), whereupon the Catholic Spaniards undertook to convert them at the point of the sword—which is well documented.
    The fact of the matter is that all of the worlds great religions spread through warfare, waged by political entitities that used the church as either an excuse or an ally in order to gain territory and power. When the Spaniards landed on the continents in this hemisphere, they waged campaigns of genocide and slavery against the pagans they found here, using the need for conversion as an excuse and a means to an end. You will not find a single person practicing Inca, Aztec, or Mayan religions in South and Central America because the Spaniards were successful in converting those who survived to Catholisism. When the English and French landed in North America, they endeavored to convert the tribes the found here, but did so using less violent means, what violence was visited on the tribes found were more of a military/political nature, with the French killing Indians allied with the English and the English killing those allied with the French. The Spanish (and to a lesser extent the Dutch) practiced what could be called “Political Catholisism” much in the same way that some Arabic and Persian nations (or organized poltical groups wishing to take power in them) practise “Political Islam.”
    Islam is about 200 years younger than Christianity and has followed a similar path. This puts Islam’s evolution as a religion about where Christianity was in the late 1800’s.
    So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
    John 8:7

  50. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #24 wagonburner

    If the warnings were written as described, I’d believe he has a pretty good shot at winning his suit.

  51. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #24 wagonburner
    If the warnings were written as described, I’d believe he has a pretty good shot at winning his suit.

  52. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    ..the foxes almost always jumped on their prey in a northeast direction resulting in a 72% success rate of capturing prey, compared to only 18% when the jumps were in a random direction

    That’s why I never had much success in the bar days, I trolled randomly!

    /palm to the forehead

  53. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    ..the foxes almost always jumped on their prey in a northeast direction resulting in a 72% success rate of capturing prey, compared to only 18% when the jumps were in a random direction

    That’s why I never had much success in the bar days, I trolled randomly!
    /palm to the forehead

  54. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    The report says her tenure of about one year was fraught with personality conflicts, verbal abuse and questionable expenditures on travel, wine and liquor.

    Except for that part about “one year”, that’s an apt description of Nancy Pelosi’s Speakership.

  55. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    The report says her tenure of about one year was fraught with personality conflicts, verbal abuse and questionable expenditures on travel, wine and liquor.

    Except for that part about “one year”, that’s an apt description of Nancy Pelosi’s Speakership.

  56. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Whoops! But no mention of whose head will roll. Notice how they demonize it with “AK-47, 874 boxes of ammo, “It was a miracle……..”

    Original article:

    80 guns, ammunition found at Cleveland homeless shelter Arsenal included AK-47s, city councilman says
    Thursday, February 3, 2011 10:04 AM
    Associated Press

    CLEVELAND — Police have confiscated 80 firearms of various calibers and 874 boxes of ammunition found at a homeless shelter in Cleveland.

    A police report says the items were taken from St. Herman’s House of Hospitality last week “in connection with a crisis intervention.” Sgt. Sammy Morris says the investigation continues. No other information was available
    .
    City Councilman Joe Cimperman tells WKYC-TV that the weapons included AK-47s and other high-powered firearms. He says it was a “miracle” no one was hurt.

    The shelter’s Web site says it provides overnight lodging to about 12,000 men each year and offers other social services to those in need.

    http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2011/02/03/guns-cleveland-homeless-shelter.html

    Retraction:

    Notice the retraction is one sentence, no mention of the police or councilman’s statements. Did they really say that or did the reporter “embellish” his report?

    Feb 3, 5:55 PM EST
    Correction: Homeless Shelter-Guns

    CLEVELAND (AP) — In a story Feb. 2 about the discovery of a weapons cache in Cleveland, The Associated Press reported erroneously where it was found.
    Police say it was at an apartment, not at a homeless shelter across the street.

  57. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Whoops! But no mention of whose head will roll. Notice how they demonize it with “AK-47, 874 boxes of ammo, “It was a miracle……..”
    Original article:

    80 guns, ammunition found at Cleveland homeless shelter Arsenal included AK-47s, city councilman says
    Thursday, February 3, 2011 10:04 AM
    Associated Press
    CLEVELAND — Police have confiscated 80 firearms of various calibers and 874 boxes of ammunition found at a homeless shelter in Cleveland.
    A police report says the items were taken from St. Herman’s House of Hospitality last week “in connection with a crisis intervention.” Sgt. Sammy Morris says the investigation continues. No other information was available
    .
    City Councilman Joe Cimperman tells WKYC-TV that the weapons included AK-47s and other high-powered firearms. He says it was a “miracle” no one was hurt.
    The shelter’s Web site says it provides overnight lodging to about 12,000 men each year and offers other social services to those in need.

    http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2011/02/03/guns-cleveland-homeless-shelter.html
    Retraction:
    Notice the retraction is one sentence, no mention of the police or councilman’s statements. Did they really say that or did the reporter “embellish” his report?

    Feb 3, 5:55 PM EST
    Correction: Homeless Shelter-Guns
    CLEVELAND (AP) — In a story Feb. 2 about the discovery of a weapons cache in Cleveland, The Associated Press reported erroneously where it was found.
    Police say it was at an apartment, not at a homeless shelter across the street.

  58. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    At least the power managers in Dallas have their priorities straight when it comes to identifying and keeping essential services, like the site of the Super Bowl, supplied while the non-essential users, such as hospitals, are cut off.
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/dallas-hit-bitter-cold-ice-super-bowl/story?id=12832352

  59. El Gordo Avatar
    El Gordo

    At least the power managers in Dallas have their priorities straight when it comes to identifying and keeping essential services, like the site of the Super Bowl, supplied while the non-essential users, such as hospitals, are cut off.
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/dallas-hit-bitter-cold-ice-super-bowl/story?id=12832352

  60. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    Just saw on TV that the Metro Train of Doooooooommm is running only every 10 minutes instead of every 6 minutes.

    All three of their riders are really gonna be mad.

  61. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Just saw on TV that the Metro Train of Doooooooommm is running only every 10 minutes instead of every 6 minutes.
    All three of their riders are really gonna be mad.

  62. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Boston kicked Dallas’ butt. Somewhat literally and somewwhat figuratively.

    Fight Fest: Pro Hockey Teams Brawl 3 Times in 4 Seconds

  63. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Boston kicked Dallas’ butt. Somewhat literally and somewwhat figuratively.
    Fight Fest: Pro Hockey Teams Brawl 3 Times in 4 Seconds

  64. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    ..the foxes almost always jumped on their prey in a northeast direction resulting in a 72% success rate of capturing prey, compared to only 18% when the jumps were in a random direction

    That’s why I never had much success in the bar days, I trolled randomly!

    Actually, the way I read it, you either weren’t letting the foxes do the pouncing, or you stood southwest of them when they did.

  65. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    ..the foxes almost always jumped on their prey in a northeast direction resulting in a 72% success rate of capturing prey, compared to only 18% when the jumps were in a random direction

    That’s why I never had much success in the bar days, I trolled randomly!

    Actually, the way I read it, you either weren’t letting the foxes do the pouncing, or you stood southwest of them when they did.

  66. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Ah yes;
    The redemptive power of FOX News.

    The thing is, at the time, I considered myself not only a liberal, but a progressive one at that. I watched “Democracy Now,” when I watched the news at all. I thought Fox News was every bit as evil as all the left-wing pundits claimed. I thought Andrew Breitbart was a charlatan, loathed Ann Coulter with a hatred that eclipsed the heat emitted by 10,000 suns and as for Megyn Kelly or Neil Cavuto, I didn’t even know who they were.
    It was “Red Eye” that caused me to give Fox News a chance, because it was “Red Eye” that caused me to give conservatism a chance. Before that fateful November night, had anyone asked me my opinion of Fox News, I would have spouted a typical leftist talking point about racist, right-wing nutjobs who hated minorities and wanted to kill the poor.
    My conversion from raging liberal to conservative didn’t happen overnight, though it may appear to some as if it had. I also realize no one at Fox News cares one whit what my political affiliations are, as long as I watch. But that’s the point. After my first “Red Eye” episode, I became a Fox News junkie.

    I’m a big fan of Red Eye, when I’m able to watch it. I wish FOX would rebroadcast it more.

    I reached out to people like Andrew Breitbart. I discovered a warm, genuine human being who was working hard to push values in which he truly believed, and to open the eyes of everyday Americans as to how they were being duped by the mainstream media. I saw Ann Coulter unedited by leftists who hated her for the first time, and discovered she was warm, witty and highly sarcastic; all traits I highly admire.
    Now, Breitbart and Coulter are two of my very favorite conservative personalities.
    While my “honeymoon period” with Fox News is over, it remains the only news network I watch. At all.

    No wonder they hate it so much.

  67. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Islam is about 200 years younger than Christianity

    Actually its about 600 years younger than Christianity.

  68. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    Islam is about 200 years younger than Christianity

    Actually its about 600 years younger than Christianity.

  69. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Considering the source, I’ll withhold robust belly laughter until more verifiable facts come to light. However, I’m having trouble suppressing a little chuckle.

  70. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    Considering the source, I’ll withhold robust belly laughter until more verifiable facts come to light. However, I’m having trouble suppressing a little chuckle.

  71. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #14 OTL

    Does the grass crunching when you walk on it count?

    Dunno — I am not walking on it, I am indoors where the heat is.

  72. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #14 OTL

    Does the grass crunching when you walk on it count?

    Dunno — I am not walking on it, I am indoors where the heat is.

  73. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Bob;

    HERE you go.

  74. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Bob;
    HERE you go.

  75. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Sarge #34;

    My mother loves Red Eye. I’d watch it too if It weren’t on too late and my politicalization has reached its peak for the given day.

  76. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Sarge #34;
    My mother loves Red Eye. I’d watch it too if It weren’t on too late and my politicalization has reached its peak for the given day.

  77. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #22 Pyro

    Possible tranny? Where would one hide one’s junk in a thong?

    Transgendered works both ways. No junk to hide.

    “(The driver) stated that the male looked like a female and may have been transgendered.”

  78. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #22 Pyro

    Possible tranny? Where would one hide one’s junk in a thong?

    Transgendered works both ways. No junk to hide.

    “(The driver) stated that the male looked like a female and may have been transgendered.”

  79. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Heh heh.

    “I can just say that I sent them to my client through his lawyer in London. But how it ended up on the Internet I don’t know,” Hurtig told The Associated Press. “It’s incredibly unfortunate.”

  80. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    Heh heh.

    “I can just say that I sent them to my client through his lawyer in London. But how it ended up on the Internet I don’t know,” Hurtig told The Associated Press. “It’s incredibly unfortunate.”

  81. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    35 Hamous says:
    February 4, 2011 at 10:32 am
    Islam is about 200 years younger than Christianity

    Actually its about 600 years younger than Christianity.

    I stand corrected.

    Which puts Islam at about the Post-Reformation period which is the point where the political power of the Church (and thus its misuse) began to wane.

  82. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    35 Hamous says:
    February 4, 2011 at 10:32 am
    Islam is about 200 years younger than Christianity
    Actually its about 600 years younger than Christianity.

    I stand corrected.
    Which puts Islam at about the Post-Reformation period which is the point where the political power of the Church (and thus its misuse) began to wane.

  83. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    #25 Sarge:

    Islam is about 200 years younger than Christianity and has followed a similar path. This puts Islam’s evolution as a religion about where Christianity was in the late 1800′s.

    I am going to have to differ with you here; more like the 1400’s. I am not in any way condoning what what done in the name of Christianity by the dominant denomination of the day during the subject period. Most of that activity was far from what Messiah taught (how can anyone justify the Spanish Inquisition under any circumstances??) , the departure from what Messiah taught started around 150 CE by some guy whose name starts with an “M” and I can’t remember at this time. He was originally branded a heretic and his teachings began to take hold around the time of Constantine.

    this place states the scourge of humanity, islam, was birthed around 610 CE. Christianity, those who followed the Messiah, started around 30 CE; therefore islam is around 580 years younger than Christianity.

    Mohammed frequently went to a cave in the desert three miles from Mecca, where he would spend months in prayer and meditation. One morning, he heard the voice of the angel Gabriel who said that he is the messenger of Allah (God) and a voice was heard, the voice of the Lord addressed to the Prophet. It was recorded and became the text of the holy Koran. Thus was the birth of Islam it was around 610 CE when he had that vision in the cave.

    So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
    John 8:7

    The above really does not have anything to do with proactive self defense, which is what I am advocating. Under The Law, in the reference you cite, BOTH THE MAN AND THE WOMAN CAUGHT IN ADULTERY were to be stoned. How is it that they only caught the woman “in the very act” and not the man, unless he was one of them (the corrupted Pharisees) and she was being used as a bludgeon against the Messiah? This example in The Text is analagous to the cops planting evidence in a criminal case, the “evidence” against the framed party is excluded and the case falls apart as what rightly happened in The Text.

  84. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #25 Sarge:

    Islam is about 200 years younger than Christianity and has followed a similar path. This puts Islam’s evolution as a religion about where Christianity was in the late 1800′s.

    I am going to have to differ with you here; more like the 1400’s. I am not in any way condoning what what done in the name of Christianity by the dominant denomination of the day during the subject period. Most of that activity was far from what Messiah taught (how can anyone justify the Spanish Inquisition under any circumstances??) , the departure from what Messiah taught started around 150 CE by some guy whose name starts with an “M” and I can’t remember at this time. He was originally branded a heretic and his teachings began to take hold around the time of Constantine.
    this place states the scourge of humanity, islam, was birthed around 610 CE. Christianity, those who followed the Messiah, started around 30 CE; therefore islam is around 580 years younger than Christianity.

    Mohammed frequently went to a cave in the desert three miles from Mecca, where he would spend months in prayer and meditation. One morning, he heard the voice of the angel Gabriel who said that he is the messenger of Allah (God) and a voice was heard, the voice of the Lord addressed to the Prophet. It was recorded and became the text of the holy Koran. Thus was the birth of Islam it was around 610 CE when he had that vision in the cave.

    So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
    John 8:7

    The above really does not have anything to do with proactive self defense, which is what I am advocating. Under The Law, in the reference you cite, BOTH THE MAN AND THE WOMAN CAUGHT IN ADULTERY were to be stoned. How is it that they only caught the woman “in the very act” and not the man, unless he was one of them (the corrupted Pharisees) and she was being used as a bludgeon against the Messiah? This example in The Text is analagous to the cops planting evidence in a criminal case, the “evidence” against the framed party is excluded and the case falls apart as what rightly happened in The Text.

  85. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    Further to my #43 above, the guy’s name was Marcion.

  86. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Further to my #43 above, the guy’s name was Marcion.

  87. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #38 Darren, Thanks.

  88. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    #38 Darren, Thanks.

  89. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I am not in any way condoning what what done in the name of Christianity by the dominant denomination of the day during the subject period.

    Yet you make statements that elicit thoughts of justifiable genocide agains muslims by using the misuse of their faith by political entitities seeing to aquire or hold onto power in exaxctly the same way.

  90. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I am not in any way condoning what what done in the name of Christianity by the dominant denomination of the day during the subject period.

    Yet you make statements that elicit thoughts of justifiable genocide agains muslims by using the misuse of their faith by political entitities seeing to aquire or hold onto power in exaxctly the same way.

  91. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    The above really does not have anything to do with proactive self defense, which is what I am advocating. Under The Law, in the reference you cite, BOTH THE MAN AND THE WOMAN CAUGHT IN ADULTERY were to be stoned.

    Gimme a break, ack—you ain’t that dense.

    If our religion is innocent of such acts made in its name as you accuse muslims of making, then you’re justified and righteous enough to chuck stones.

    I’ve taken an open and honest look at the acts of man used to pervert my religion and have decided not to take any stones from the pile next to me.

  92. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    The above really does not have anything to do with proactive self defense, which is what I am advocating. Under The Law, in the reference you cite, BOTH THE MAN AND THE WOMAN CAUGHT IN ADULTERY were to be stoned.

    Gimme a break, ack—you ain’t that dense.
    If our religion is innocent of such acts made in its name as you accuse muslims of making, then you’re justified and righteous enough to chuck stones.
    I’ve taken an open and honest look at the acts of man used to pervert my religion and have decided not to take any stones from the pile next to me.

  93. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    When you get right down to it, Bones, the kind of rhetoric you are spewing about Islam as a justification for getting our government to commit genocide or nearly so is pretty much exactly that used by Kings and governments who slaughtered Native Americans, Fillipinos, and any number of non-believiers in the past.

    Even though the greater majority of Christians at the time had no real interest in doing so.

    Just as the greater majority of Muslims have no real interest in slaughtering us right now.

  94. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    When you get right down to it, Bones, the kind of rhetoric you are spewing about Islam as a justification for getting our government to commit genocide or nearly so is pretty much exactly that used by Kings and governments who slaughtered Native Americans, Fillipinos, and any number of non-believiers in the past.
    Even though the greater majority of Christians at the time had no real interest in doing so.
    Just as the greater majority of Muslims have no real interest in slaughtering us right now.

  95. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    Hamous 9

    You would find easy employment as a Major League baseball player if you could bat .300, which I suppose is the equivalent of being wrong 70% of the time.

    I don’t know where you work, but a 30% average sounds good to me; especially if you know how to manage risk.

    1. Know when to shut down a project when it is evident it is a money pit. Most folks will ride a sick horse to death and go to extreme means to hide a failure, which they would have been better off accepting the short term loss.

    2. And this is the important one. Knowing how to maximize success when it does happen and learning from it.

    3. Never resting on one’s laurels. Always be on the lookout for the next possible success.

    Simple

  96. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    Hamous 9
    You would find easy employment as a Major League baseball player if you could bat .300, which I suppose is the equivalent of being wrong 70% of the time.
    I don’t know where you work, but a 30% average sounds good to me; especially if you know how to manage risk.
    1. Know when to shut down a project when it is evident it is a money pit. Most folks will ride a sick horse to death and go to extreme means to hide a failure, which they would have been better off accepting the short term loss.
    2. And this is the important one. Knowing how to maximize success when it does happen and learning from it.
    3. Never resting on one’s laurels. Always be on the lookout for the next possible success.
    Simple

  97. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    Sarge: If I had any confidence that Achmed did not want to kill me I would be perfectly content to “live and let live”. Unfortunately, Achmed wants to kill you and me, that is something that is very hard to accept and impossible to understand but, because you are not a moooslim, Achmed want to kill you. When you hear crowds of thousands chanting “death to America, death to the Jews” that is not just rhetoric, THEY FREAKING MEAN IT, and they will not stop until they achieve it. There was once a time when I thought that there could be peace with islam, after watching the events over the last few years I realize that is not the case. It takes both sides to want peace, islam will not allow peace until the world is converted to islam; they will not allow a live and let live attitude to prevail as a Christian would. Wake up, the enemy wants to kill you and because you do not want to kill him does not change his position.

  98. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Sarge: If I had any confidence that Achmed did not want to kill me I would be perfectly content to “live and let live”. Unfortunately, Achmed wants to kill you and me, that is something that is very hard to accept and impossible to understand but, because you are not a moooslim, Achmed want to kill you. When you hear crowds of thousands chanting “death to America, death to the Jews” that is not just rhetoric, THEY FREAKING MEAN IT, and they will not stop until they achieve it. There was once a time when I thought that there could be peace with islam, after watching the events over the last few years I realize that is not the case. It takes both sides to want peace, islam will not allow peace until the world is converted to islam; they will not allow a live and let live attitude to prevail as a Christian would. Wake up, the enemy wants to kill you and because you do not want to kill him does not change his position.

  99. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    48 Sarge,

    Jews in Eastern Europe called it a pogrom and it was not Muslims hosting the
    parties.

    Simple

  100. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    48 Sarge,
    Jews in Eastern Europe called it a pogrom and it was not Muslims hosting the
    parties.
    Simple

  101. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    White stuff melting off the roof now, sounds like a good sized rain hitting the ground.

  102. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    White stuff melting off the roof now, sounds like a good sized rain hitting the ground.

  103. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Bones;

    I want my enemies to be defeated.

    The real ones and not the ones made up in a paranoid underinformed dreamstate, or the ones waved at me by men who wish to use both religions to gain or stay in political power.

  104. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Bones;
    I want my enemies to be defeated.
    The real ones and not the ones made up in a paranoid underinformed dreamstate, or the ones waved at me by men who wish to use both religions to gain or stay in political power.

  105. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    #50 Bones:

    So, assuming that we are going to embark on a mission of systematically exterminating all Muslims, do we give a pass to those who are willing to renounce their Muslim faith and take up the cross? Do we kill the adults and take their children as our own? Perhaps the children could end up as a servant class.

    We should probably burn all of the Korans, but maybe we can convert some of the mosques to churches or museums.

    The only question I have is: once we finish how do we tell the difference between the Muslims we have exterminated and ourselves?

  106. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    #50 Bones:
    So, assuming that we are going to embark on a mission of systematically exterminating all Muslims, do we give a pass to those who are willing to renounce their Muslim faith and take up the cross? Do we kill the adults and take their children as our own? Perhaps the children could end up as a servant class.
    We should probably burn all of the Korans, but maybe we can convert some of the mosques to churches or museums.
    The only question I have is: once we finish how do we tell the difference between the Muslims we have exterminated and ourselves?

  107. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #49 Simple

    Well, I’m not a baseball player or weather man, but in my current job, forget being wrong 70% of the time. If I was RIGHT 70% of the time I would have been fired a long time ago. My line of work requires us to certify materials going into subsea drilling operations, nuclear submarines and power plants, jet engines, etc. If we tell our customers 70% of the time that their material passes when it actually fails (or vise versa), not only would I be unemployed I’d probably be in prison.

  108. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    #49 Simple
    Well, I’m not a baseball player or weather man, but in my current job, forget being wrong 70% of the time. If I was RIGHT 70% of the time I would have been fired a long time ago. My line of work requires us to certify materials going into subsea drilling operations, nuclear submarines and power plants, jet engines, etc. If we tell our customers 70% of the time that their material passes when it actually fails (or vise versa), not only would I be unemployed I’d probably be in prison.

  109. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    I reckon we could invade their lands, kill all the men, boys, and adult women, but save all the virgins for “assimilation” into our superior culture. 😉

    But seriously, there’s a Muslim worship center 50 yards from our little UU church. They’re religious, but not fundamentalists and certainly not supportive of violence. The ones I’ve met have criticized Sharia, and Islamic world domination, just as I have criticized fundamentalist, literalist Christians who support weakening separation of church and state, want to pass laws based on their own quaint interpretations of ancient texts, and support the notion of Christian dominionism.

  110. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    I reckon we could invade their lands, kill all the men, boys, and adult women, but save all the virgins for “assimilation” into our superior culture. 😉
    But seriously, there’s a Muslim worship center 50 yards from our little UU church. They’re religious, but not fundamentalists and certainly not supportive of violence. The ones I’ve met have criticized Sharia, and Islamic world domination, just as I have criticized fundamentalist, literalist Christians who support weakening separation of church and state, want to pass laws based on their own quaint interpretations of ancient texts, and support the notion of Christian dominionism.

  111. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    In case any of ya’ll don’t know – IT’S ICY OUTSIDE!

    Nothing else is going on in the world, nor does it matter.

    I cannot believe that 740 am has dumped Rush in order to hash and rehash that fact. I am now listening to him via Internet, through a station in San Diego. I figgered they wouldn’t be going all gaga over ice there. My speakers are hooked up, turned up, and I’m having frito pie for lunch as I work from my downstairs (warm) base of operations on my living room couch.

    As you were.

  112. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    In case any of ya’ll don’t know – IT’S ICY OUTSIDE!
    Nothing else is going on in the world, nor does it matter.
    I cannot believe that 740 am has dumped Rush in order to hash and rehash that fact. I am now listening to him via Internet, through a station in San Diego. I figgered they wouldn’t be going all gaga over ice there. My speakers are hooked up, turned up, and I’m having frito pie for lunch as I work from my downstairs (warm) base of operations on my living room couch.
    As you were.

  113. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Morning all, we got what we call a skiff of snow. Does not even qualify as a powdering. It has just now started to melt off the roof and perhaps the sun will come out later.

    Rush is on 950 KPRC if you’re interested.

  114. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Morning all, we got what we call a skiff of snow. Does not even qualify as a powdering. It has just now started to melt off the roof and perhaps the sun will come out later.
    Rush is on 950 KPRC if you’re interested.

  115. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #57 Tedtam

    I cannot believe that 740 am has dumped Rush in order to hash and rehash that fact.

    They moved him to 950, their lower powered station, 740 is their “Blow Torch”.

  116. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #57 Tedtam

    I cannot believe that 740 am has dumped Rush in order to hash and rehash that fact.

    They moved him to 950, their lower powered station, 740 is their “Blow Torch”.

  117. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    You all know how I feel about baggy, saggy pants. /looking for my staple gun

    Long Beach is making a request: Long Beach Tells Teens To Pick Up Saggy Pants

    Some of the comments are priceless:

    You know it’s a strange coincidence, if they didn’t wear their pants so low they wouldn’t have gotten caught running away with that television set and they wouldn’t have had to go to prison, where they practice wearing their pants so low.

    Yeah what’s another law right? that’s the problem with the Nation today. Left/right wing Fascists want to impose laws on peoples personal choices. Just because you don’t agree with there “dress style.” Of course it’s idiotic, and highly ignorant, but freedom is a bittersweet pill. Try thinking outside the box, besides wanting to impose laws to get your way with force and guns

    And this exchange cracked me up:

    josue

    why is a picture of a black kids?,white, hispanic,most teen wear the pants down too.

    surfbum

    Maybe if you actually read the article you would understand why. Because black leaders are asking black children to pull up their pants as a show of respect to their own community. Would be pretty stupid to post a picture of a white kid or mexican kid when the article is clearly about blacks, now wouldn’t it?

    equal

    I understand what your saying, however why cant every person regardless there skin tone respect that this is what is being asked of this month. Black history month is for all human races.

    ned

    If it is indeed for all races, then why not label it as such. It is clearly for blacks to try and uplift their sense of self-esteem. You can preach the message of pulling your pants up but you can’t fix stupid no matter what the race.

    robert

    Equal? Do you really understand just how wrong your statement is??

    “Black history month is for all human races.”

    duh

    equal..
    You may understand what hes saying but you fail to grasp the bigger picture. You say Black History month is for all but what would you say if we made March White History month?

  118. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    You all know how I feel about baggy, saggy pants. /looking for my staple gun
    Long Beach is making a request: Long Beach Tells Teens To Pick Up Saggy Pants
    Some of the comments are priceless:

    You know it’s a strange coincidence, if they didn’t wear their pants so low they wouldn’t have gotten caught running away with that television set and they wouldn’t have had to go to prison, where they practice wearing their pants so low.

    Yeah what’s another law right? that’s the problem with the Nation today. Left/right wing Fascists want to impose laws on peoples personal choices. Just because you don’t agree with there “dress style.” Of course it’s idiotic, and highly ignorant, but freedom is a bittersweet pill. Try thinking outside the box, besides wanting to impose laws to get your way with force and guns

    And this exchange cracked me up:

    josue
    why is a picture of a black kids?,white, hispanic,most teen wear the pants down too.

    surfbum
    Maybe if you actually read the article you would understand why. Because black leaders are asking black children to pull up their pants as a show of respect to their own community. Would be pretty stupid to post a picture of a white kid or mexican kid when the article is clearly about blacks, now wouldn’t it?

    equal
    I understand what your saying, however why cant every person regardless there skin tone respect that this is what is being asked of this month. Black history month is for all human races.

    ned
    If it is indeed for all races, then why not label it as such. It is clearly for blacks to try and uplift their sense of self-esteem. You can preach the message of pulling your pants up but you can’t fix stupid no matter what the race.

    robert
    Equal? Do you really understand just how wrong your statement is??
    “Black history month is for all human races.”
    duh

    equal..
    You may understand what hes saying but you fail to grasp the bigger picture. You say Black History month is for all but what would you say if we made March White History month?

  119. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Well it’s over, soaps are on now.

  120. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Well it’s over, soaps are on now.

  121. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    Found another one: 😀

    I don’t see how it telling them it’s for black history makes it ok to single out the blacks and for that matter what duz it have to do with black history at all!?

    Are you ret@rded? No really, are you ret@rded? I would hate to go off on someone and explain how ridiculous thier statement is if they are ret@rded.

  122. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    Found another one: 😀

    I don’t see how it telling them it’s for black history makes it ok to single out the blacks and for that matter what duz it have to do with black history at all!?

    Are you ret@rded? No really, are you ret@rded? I would hate to go off on someone and explain how ridiculous thier statement is if they are ret@rded.

  123. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    The ones I’ve met have criticized Sharia, and Islamic world domination, just as I have criticized fundamentalist, literalist Christians who support weakening separation of church and state, want to pass laws based on their own quaint interpretations of ancient texts, and support the notion of Christian dominionism.

    They seem to be criticizing others of their own faith. You are criticizing people who are of a completely different faith than what passes for your own, while often getting the tenets of that faith wrong, or at least severely distorted.

  124. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    The ones I’ve met have criticized Sharia, and Islamic world domination, just as I have criticized fundamentalist, literalist Christians who support weakening separation of church and state, want to pass laws based on their own quaint interpretations of ancient texts, and support the notion of Christian dominionism.

    They seem to be criticizing others of their own faith. You are criticizing people who are of a completely different faith than what passes for your own, while often getting the tenets of that faith wrong, or at least severely distorted.

  125. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    Sarge, Bones et al……………I didn’t notice any commentary subsequent to my #69 from Thursday O/C thread where I didn’t advocate anything but I DID post “what IS”

    And truth continues to be true whether or not the decor & accessories match the paint………………….

  126. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    Sarge, Bones et al……………I didn’t notice any commentary subsequent to my #69 from Thursday O/C thread where I didn’t advocate anything but I DID post “what IS”
    And truth continues to be true whether or not the decor & accessories match the paint………………….

  127. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    #62 slayer of garden vegetables
    How’s your lettuce holding out. Did you plant any iceberg? Did any of what you planted wind up as iceberg?

  128. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #62 slayer of garden vegetables
    How’s your lettuce holding out. Did you plant any iceberg? Did any of what you planted wind up as iceberg?

  129. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    #63 Wagonburner:

    You seem to be claiming that all Muslims MUST believe exactly the same thing about Sharia, etc. or they are not really Muslims. Are you Muslim? Can you really make that claim about a belief system that you don’t even share?

  130. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    #63 Wagonburner:
    You seem to be claiming that all Muslims MUST believe exactly the same thing about Sharia, etc. or they are not really Muslims. Are you Muslim? Can you really make that claim about a belief system that you don’t even share?

  131. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    Hamous 55,

    So you are following a prescibed procedure dictated by a rigid governing standard and not engaging in new original ideas or projects that are not framed by said standards?

    The only risk for failure lies with the materials unless of course you do not do your job as dictated by the standards.

    Simple

  132. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    Hamous 55,
    So you are following a prescibed procedure dictated by a rigid governing standard and not engaging in new original ideas or projects that are not framed by said standards?
    The only risk for failure lies with the materials unless of course you do not do your job as dictated by the standards.
    Simple

  133. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    #65 WB

    Well, I haven’t braved trekking out to the garden this morning, but I can kinda peek at the lettuce in one corner, near the plastic there. It still looks perky and green, from what I can see.

    No, I didn’t plant iceberg. I’ve got the leafy kind of lettuce, not the balled-up variety.

    My three year scallions are still looking all steroidy. Not exactly scallions any more, but getting sizable. They have handled being totally exposed to the freezing weather fine, also, from what I can see.

    I don’t want to put on long pants. If they’re dead, my changing out of my shorts and pulling on my boots won’t help ’em. I’ll wait for the weather to warm up. I’ll have to be careful pulling back the plastic. With the light on in the tent over the garden, I could be looking at a few snakes hiding out from the cold, too.

    Another reason for boots.

  134. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    #65 WB
    Well, I haven’t braved trekking out to the garden this morning, but I can kinda peek at the lettuce in one corner, near the plastic there. It still looks perky and green, from what I can see.
    No, I didn’t plant iceberg. I’ve got the leafy kind of lettuce, not the balled-up variety.
    My three year scallions are still looking all steroidy. Not exactly scallions any more, but getting sizable. They have handled being totally exposed to the freezing weather fine, also, from what I can see.
    I don’t want to put on long pants. If they’re dead, my changing out of my shorts and pulling on my boots won’t help ’em. I’ll wait for the weather to warm up. I’ll have to be careful pulling back the plastic. With the light on in the tent over the garden, I could be looking at a few snakes hiding out from the cold, too.
    Another reason for boots.

  135. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    It’s interesting to me that many of those here who are all for exterminating all Muslims everywhere simply because of their faith have at other times spoken against so called “hate crime” laws.

    How can you possibly be willing to kill innocent people simply because of what they believe? Do you have such little faith in you own God? How is your attitude one bit different than the most virulently militant Islamicist?

  136. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    It’s interesting to me that many of those here who are all for exterminating all Muslims everywhere simply because of their faith have at other times spoken against so called “hate crime” laws.
    How can you possibly be willing to kill innocent people simply because of what they believe? Do you have such little faith in you own God? How is your attitude one bit different than the most virulently militant Islamicist?

  137. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    Sarge and Fat Albert: I am not advocating nor condoning genocide. I have never said that each and every mooooslim is a blood thirsty savage killing maniac. What I have said is that there are enough of them that fall into that category AND enough that condone or ignore same that they present a real and present existential threat to non mooooslims. I do no engage in senseless hyperbole’

    #63 Wagonburner:

    You seem to be claiming that all Muslims MUST believe exactly the same thing about Sharia, etc. or they are not really Muslims. Are you Muslim? Can you really make that claim about a belief system that you don’t even share?

    One can read the text and speak to those who have been targeted (read some of Bridgitte Gabriel’s work) to understand the mindset. I am not as interested in the South East Asia Moooslims as the Middle east mooslims. We have a much larger body of evidence about them.
    I would be thrilled to “live and let live” with the mooooslims; THEY WILL NOT LET THAT HAPPEN!
    I don’t intend to argue the point any longer, I have sounded the alarm and if you choose to ignore it your damage will be on your own head. I just pray that you wake up and see what is actually going on instead of what you want to.

  138. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Sarge and Fat Albert: I am not advocating nor condoning genocide. I have never said that each and every mooooslim is a blood thirsty savage killing maniac. What I have said is that there are enough of them that fall into that category AND enough that condone or ignore same that they present a real and present existential threat to non mooooslims. I do no engage in senseless hyperbole’

    #63 Wagonburner:
    You seem to be claiming that all Muslims MUST believe exactly the same thing about Sharia, etc. or they are not really Muslims. Are you Muslim? Can you really make that claim about a belief system that you don’t even share?

    One can read the text and speak to those who have been targeted (read some of Bridgitte Gabriel’s work) to understand the mindset. I am not as interested in the South East Asia Moooslims as the Middle east mooslims. We have a much larger body of evidence about them.
    I would be thrilled to “live and let live” with the mooooslims; THEY WILL NOT LET THAT HAPPEN!
    I don’t intend to argue the point any longer, I have sounded the alarm and if you choose to ignore it your damage will be on your own head. I just pray that you wake up and see what is actually going on instead of what you want to.

  139. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #63 WB, as a citizen of a country that respects religious freedom, I will criticize anyone who wants to mix government authoritah that applies to all, with their personal opinions of the supernatural. Our association with a faith are voluntary. Our associations with government are not.

    I’m not critical of their beliefs. Believe what ever you like.

  140. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    #63 WB, as a citizen of a country that respects religious freedom, I will criticize anyone who wants to mix government authoritah that applies to all, with their personal opinions of the supernatural. Our association with a faith are voluntary. Our associations with government are not.
    I’m not critical of their beliefs. Believe what ever you like.

  141. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    #66 fa
    I wasn’t criticizing anyone other than bob42.

  142. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #66 fa
    I wasn’t criticizing anyone other than bob42.

  143. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Sarge and Fat Albert: I am not advocating nor condoning genocide. I have never said that each and every mooooslim is a blood thirsty savage killing maniac.

    Well, to be fair, you did say:

    Unfortunately, Achmed wants to kill you and me, that is something that is very hard to accept and impossible to understand but, because you are not a moooslim, Achmed want to kill you.

    So I guess you really were just talking about muslims named Achmed.

    My bad.

  144. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Sarge and Fat Albert: I am not advocating nor condoning genocide. I have never said that each and every mooooslim is a blood thirsty savage killing maniac.

    Well, to be fair, you did say:

    Unfortunately, Achmed wants to kill you and me, that is something that is very hard to accept and impossible to understand but, because you are not a moooslim, Achmed want to kill you.

    So I guess you really were just talking about muslims named Achmed.
    My bad.

  145. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #67 Good lord. I don’t even know what you’re talking about now. I started out making an off-hand and completely unserious comment about the accuracy of weathermen and you end up talking about the mundaneness of my job? Jeez. Go invent a cold fusion reactor or something.

  146. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    #67 Good lord. I don’t even know what you’re talking about now. I started out making an off-hand and completely unserious comment about the accuracy of weathermen and you end up talking about the mundaneness of my job? Jeez. Go invent a cold fusion reactor or something.

  147. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    Nice tits.

  148. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Nice tits.

  149. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    Nice ice hole.

  150. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Nice ice hole.

  151. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    #70 Bonecrusher:

    I just pray that you wake up and see what is actually going on instead of what you want to.

    I’m quite aware of what is going on, thank you very much. I’ve lost friends in the Middle East and I have others who have family there or who work there.

    I also have friends here in the US who are Muslim. They are appalled at the atrocities committed by evil degenerates who claim their same faith, just as we are appalled by people such as Jim Jones, David Koresh and idiots on both sides of the Irish conflict.

    You cannot condemn people on the basis of their faith. To advocate doing so is barbaric.

    In this case, by your own admission, you are doomed to fail if you simply judge people by the faith they claim. The ones that are evil will simply lie, claim to be Christian or Jewish, and then turn on you later.

    The ONLY basis for evaluating people is what they do and how they act.

    I am perfectly willing to exterminate terrorists. I think they are rabid vermin who deserve nothing more than a bullet from a safe distance. I am not willing to kill someone on the basis that they might, at some point in time, become a terrorist.

  152. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    #70 Bonecrusher:

    I just pray that you wake up and see what is actually going on instead of what you want to.

    I’m quite aware of what is going on, thank you very much. I’ve lost friends in the Middle East and I have others who have family there or who work there.
    I also have friends here in the US who are Muslim. They are appalled at the atrocities committed by evil degenerates who claim their same faith, just as we are appalled by people such as Jim Jones, David Koresh and idiots on both sides of the Irish conflict.
    You cannot condemn people on the basis of their faith. To advocate doing so is barbaric.
    In this case, by your own admission, you are doomed to fail if you simply judge people by the faith they claim. The ones that are evil will simply lie, claim to be Christian or Jewish, and then turn on you later.
    The ONLY basis for evaluating people is what they do and how they act.
    I am perfectly willing to exterminate terrorists. I think they are rabid vermin who deserve nothing more than a bullet from a safe distance. I am not willing to kill someone on the basis that they might, at some point in time, become a terrorist.

  153. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    Give him some real bacon, not the fake doggie treat stuff. He deserves it!

  154. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    Give him some real bacon, not the fake doggie treat stuff. He deserves it!

  155. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    #76 WB

    Interesting idea. I can’t help but wonder that the city hasn’t collapsed the structure yet, based on “lack of compliance to building codes” or some such. No permits were pulled, I am sure.

    I just found out this morning that in addition to the other increases in various trade permits, including a minimum permit price (which means the end of $45 permits, nothing less than $70 or $75 now), the City is now allowing a $25 “administration fee” for each permit we pull. The city has to make up its shortfall, and is putting the onus on the citizens who want to improve their property or build new houses.

    So, now when we pull a basic street cut permit, which gives us permission to not cut a street (and I know it doesn’t make sense, but it’s true), we have to pay $150, not $125. Guess who pays this extra cost? You got it – the customer. I hope most of ’em are libs. I don’t mind doing work for a liberal, as long as they pay, but if they want bigger government, I certainly don’t mind making them help pay for it.

  156. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    #76 WB
    Interesting idea. I can’t help but wonder that the city hasn’t collapsed the structure yet, based on “lack of compliance to building codes” or some such. No permits were pulled, I am sure.
    I just found out this morning that in addition to the other increases in various trade permits, including a minimum permit price (which means the end of $45 permits, nothing less than $70 or $75 now), the City is now allowing a $25 “administration fee” for each permit we pull. The city has to make up its shortfall, and is putting the onus on the citizens who want to improve their property or build new houses.
    So, now when we pull a basic street cut permit, which gives us permission to not cut a street (and I know it doesn’t make sense, but it’s true), we have to pay $150, not $125. Guess who pays this extra cost? You got it – the customer. I hope most of ’em are libs. I don’t mind doing work for a liberal, as long as they pay, but if they want bigger government, I certainly don’t mind making them help pay for it.

  157. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #77 – I’d sure love to SEE those that are “appalled” and when I say “see” I mean WHERE are the LETTERS to EDITORS, the HEADLINES, the TV & RADIO INTERVIEWS etc?

    Those that claim to “be” appalled need to “grow a pair” and shout from the proverbial rooftops IMHO…………………………..or it’s just more BPH…………

  158. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    #77 – I’d sure love to SEE those that are “appalled” and when I say “see” I mean WHERE are the LETTERS to EDITORS, the HEADLINES, the TV & RADIO INTERVIEWS etc?
    Those that claim to “be” appalled need to “grow a pair” and shout from the proverbial rooftops IMHO…………………………..or it’s just more BPH…………

  159. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Those that claim to “be” appalled need to “grow a pair” and shout from the proverbial rooftops IMHO…………………………..or it’s just more BPH…………

    Or maybe they can just live thier lives.

    In 2002 my son volunteered for a dangerous assignment in Iraq as a convoy security guard. Back in those days, the roads between Kuwait and Bagdad were dangerous, as were all the roads between supply bases and the FOBs and other activities they supported. His job was to ride in the trucks and be the first response to any attack made on the convoy.

    They made a regular stop one one route and he often visited a family there (not sure if the man’s name was Achmed or not). One night as he visited, the lights in the house suddenly went off. His heart stopped and his hand reached for his pistol. As he was undoing the clasp on the holster, the mother came out of the kitchen door holding a massive cake covered in candles and the family began singing

    “Hoppy Birzday to you. Hoppy Birzday to you. Hoppy Birzday dear Joshy. Hoppy Birzday to you.”

    It was his 21st birthday.

    I guess Achmed wasn’t in a killing mood that day.

  160. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Those that claim to “be” appalled need to “grow a pair” and shout from the proverbial rooftops IMHO…………………………..or it’s just more BPH…………

    Or maybe they can just live thier lives.
    In 2002 my son volunteered for a dangerous assignment in Iraq as a convoy security guard. Back in those days, the roads between Kuwait and Bagdad were dangerous, as were all the roads between supply bases and the FOBs and other activities they supported. His job was to ride in the trucks and be the first response to any attack made on the convoy.
    They made a regular stop one one route and he often visited a family there (not sure if the man’s name was Achmed or not). One night as he visited, the lights in the house suddenly went off. His heart stopped and his hand reached for his pistol. As he was undoing the clasp on the holster, the mother came out of the kitchen door holding a massive cake covered in candles and the family began singing
    “Hoppy Birzday to you. Hoppy Birzday to you. Hoppy Birzday dear Joshy. Hoppy Birzday to you.”
    It was his 21st birthday.
    I guess Achmed wasn’t in a killing mood that day.

  161. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    It would be easier to separate the Muslims who want to live in peace and the Muslims who want to have the rest of us in pieces, if the peaceful weren’t in fear for their lives if they spoke out or – horrors! – decided they wanted to live as a Christian or a Jew or a Buddhist or some other non-Muslim faith.

    I wonder how many followers of Mohammed there would be if free choice was available?

  162. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    It would be easier to separate the Muslims who want to live in peace and the Muslims who want to have the rest of us in pieces, if the peaceful weren’t in fear for their lives if they spoke out or – horrors! – decided they wanted to live as a Christian or a Jew or a Buddhist or some other non-Muslim faith.
    I wonder how many followers of Mohammed there would be if free choice was available?

  163. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    #80 Katfish:

    So, you know about Westboro Baptist Church and what they do. How many letters to the editor have you written? (LST and Hamous don’t count) Done any radio interviews? How about TV spots?

    None? So, you must agree with them…………

  164. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    #80 Katfish:
    So, you know about Westboro Baptist Church and what they do. How many letters to the editor have you written? (LST and Hamous don’t count) Done any radio interviews? How about TV spots?
    None? So, you must agree with them…………

  165. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    So putting aside my boring assembly line factory job where I assemble widgets, I wonder if a 30% success rate for shuttle launches be acceptable.

  166. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    So putting aside my boring assembly line factory job where I assemble widgets, I wonder if a 30% success rate for shuttle launches be acceptable.

  167. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    Barf Kitty just changed places – from Lovely’s bedroom to the living room. She is now ensconced in her “cat cave” – a pile of sheets and blankets on the end of our short couch. I have rewarmed her water bottle (a gallon milk jug) and tucked it in behind her. She’ll be warm there for hours, and out of my lap.

  168. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    Barf Kitty just changed places – from Lovely’s bedroom to the living room. She is now ensconced in her “cat cave” – a pile of sheets and blankets on the end of our short couch. I have rewarmed her water bottle (a gallon milk jug) and tucked it in behind her. She’ll be warm there for hours, and out of my lap.

  169. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    #84 Hamous:

    How about a 30% success rate for laws that actually accomplish what the writers intended?

  170. fat albert Avatar
    fat albert

    #84 Hamous:
    How about a 30% success rate for laws that actually accomplish what the writers intended?

  171. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    There are some mean people on Facebook.
    /poor turnip.

  172. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    #83 fa
    Don’t be so pedantic. There is nearly universal revulsion at what the WBC people do and virtually no support. The WBC people don’t go around killing anyone, let alone innocents in a market.

    In the Muslim world, we see much overt support for the nuts when they blow something (especially non-muslims) up and virtually no revulsion or other protest.

  173. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #83 fa
    Don’t be so pedantic. There is nearly universal revulsion at what the WBC people do and virtually no support. The WBC people don’t go around killing anyone, let alone innocents in a market.
    In the Muslim world, we see much overt support for the nuts when they blow something (especially non-muslims) up and virtually no revulsion or other protest.

  174. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    McCain slips further into senility and irrelevance.

  175. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    McCain slips further into senility and irrelevance.

  176. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Don’t be so pedantic. There is nearly universal revulsion at what the WBC people do and virtually no support. The WBC people don’t go around killing anyone, let alone innocents in a market.

    But by the standards you hold Muslims to, you are condoning thier actions with your silence.

    My standards for you, as well as most muslims, is that you are all free to believe what your beleive without me requiring anything more from either of you in order to legitimize that freedom. You are just as free to refrain from open and public condemnation of WBC as the averge muslim is to refrain from open and public condemnation of thier particular nutcases, and i hold neither of you—or your religion—responsible for the actions of other men.

    In the Muslim world, we see much overt support for the nuts when they blow something (especially non-muslims) up and virtually no revulsion or other protest.

    The overwhelming number of people who have been blown up by muslims in the past 10 years have been other muslims. In 2007 the majority in an entire nation, Iraq, turned on those who were doing the blowing up and joined with us in defeating them.

    The only reason we don’t hear more about that, as well as those in AfPak who are similarly engaged with us, is that the main stream media really doesn’t want that to get out because it tends to give justification to Bush’s intent when we invaded Iraq.

  177. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Don’t be so pedantic. There is nearly universal revulsion at what the WBC people do and virtually no support. The WBC people don’t go around killing anyone, let alone innocents in a market.

    But by the standards you hold Muslims to, you are condoning thier actions with your silence.
    My standards for you, as well as most muslims, is that you are all free to believe what your beleive without me requiring anything more from either of you in order to legitimize that freedom. You are just as free to refrain from open and public condemnation of WBC as the averge muslim is to refrain from open and public condemnation of thier particular nutcases, and i hold neither of you—or your religion—responsible for the actions of other men.

    In the Muslim world, we see much overt support for the nuts when they blow something (especially non-muslims) up and virtually no revulsion or other protest.

    The overwhelming number of people who have been blown up by muslims in the past 10 years have been other muslims. In 2007 the majority in an entire nation, Iraq, turned on those who were doing the blowing up and joined with us in defeating them.
    The only reason we don’t hear more about that, as well as those in AfPak who are similarly engaged with us, is that the main stream media really doesn’t want that to get out because it tends to give justification to Bush’s intent when we invaded Iraq.

  178. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    The only reason we don’t hear more about that, as well as those in AfPak who are similarly engaged with us, is that the main stream media really doesn’t want that to get out because it tends to give justification to Bush’s intent when we invaded Iraq.

    That’s very likely the case. It’s also the case that by doing that, the MSM is aiding and abetting those who think that Islam is nothing more than a global terror organization.

  179. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    The only reason we don’t hear more about that, as well as those in AfPak who are similarly engaged with us, is that the main stream media really doesn’t want that to get out because it tends to give justification to Bush’s intent when we invaded Iraq.

    That’s very likely the case. It’s also the case that by doing that, the MSM is aiding and abetting those who think that Islam is nothing more than a global terror organization.

  180. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    I’m doing my best to talk some tolerance in to the FB group I mentioned above.

    I just suggested that the turnip and Bachmann resolve their difference, and create a musical act. They could call it Bachmann Turnip Overdrive.

  181. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    I’m doing my best to talk some tolerance in to the FB group I mentioned above.
    I just suggested that the turnip and Bachmann resolve their difference, and create a musical act. They could call it Bachmann Turnip Overdrive.

  182. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    🙄

  183. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    🙄

  184. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #83 – Au conTRAIRE mon ami! I RIDE – LIVE and IN PERSON with the PATRIOT GUARD and have done so whenever I can since 2005…………………..a mere 5000 riders nationwide in ’05 and NOW 215,124 strong!

    I’d say ‘nice try’ (if it was)

    NEXT?

  185. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    #83 – Au conTRAIRE mon ami! I RIDE – LIVE and IN PERSON with the PATRIOT GUARD and have done so whenever I can since 2005…………………..a mere 5000 riders nationwide in ’05 and NOW 215,124 strong!
    I’d say ‘nice try’ (if it was)
    NEXT?

  186. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Reading through this thread today it looks like everyone may be suffering from a bit of cabin fever.

  187. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    Reading through this thread today it looks like everyone may be suffering from a bit of cabin fever.

  188. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    OH!™

    “whenever I can” = over 30 missions – which would be a LOT more if most missions weren’t on weekdays.

    I ALSO ride with BACA (B.ikers A.gainst C.hild A.buse) on a weekly basis.

    How many abused children have YOU re-empowered, accompanied to court, or camped on the property of while protecting them from the PERP?

    NONE? I won’t claim (as you tried to) that you are in FAVOR of child abuse……………

  189. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    OH!™
    “whenever I can” = over 30 missions – which would be a LOT more if most missions weren’t on weekdays.
    I ALSO ride with BACA (B.ikers A.gainst C.hild A.buse) on a weekly basis.
    How many abused children have YOU re-empowered, accompanied to court, or camped on the property of while protecting them from the PERP?
    NONE? I won’t claim (as you tried to) that you are in FAVOR of child abuse……………

  190. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    Sarge: I have never said that each and every moooslim is a terrorist or terrorist sympathizer, don’t paint me with that brush. I am not advocating genocide or islamocide. I am advocating a full scale war against the terrorists, their sympathizers and the governments that support/harbor them; even ones that are not named Achmed.

    82 Tedtam says:
    February 4, 2011 at 2:11 pm
    It would be easier to separate the Muslims who want to live in peace and the Muslims who want to have the rest of us in pieces, if the peaceful weren’t in fear for their lives if they spoke out or – horrors! – decided they wanted to live as a Christian or a Jew or a Buddhist or some other non-Muslim faith.

    I wonder how many followers of Mohammed there would be if free choice was available?

    Queen TT has just knocked one out of the park.

  191. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Sarge: I have never said that each and every moooslim is a terrorist or terrorist sympathizer, don’t paint me with that brush. I am not advocating genocide or islamocide. I am advocating a full scale war against the terrorists, their sympathizers and the governments that support/harbor them; even ones that are not named Achmed.

    82 Tedtam says:
    February 4, 2011 at 2:11 pm
    It would be easier to separate the Muslims who want to live in peace and the Muslims who want to have the rest of us in pieces, if the peaceful weren’t in fear for their lives if they spoke out or – horrors! – decided they wanted to live as a Christian or a Jew or a Buddhist or some other non-Muslim faith.
    I wonder how many followers of Mohammed there would be if free choice was available?

    Queen TT has just knocked one out of the park.

  192. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    If 4th amendment protections are to be disregarded so casually, whimsically, and without due process or probable cause, I think the public deserves to know how accurate the dogs have been.

    The handlers were told that there might be up to three of their target scents in each room, and that there would be a piece of red construction paper in two of the rooms that identified the location of the target scent. However, there were no target scents — explosives or drugs — placed in any of the rooms.

    Each room represented a different experimental condition or scenario:

    In room #1 the experimenter did nothing.
    In room #2 she taped a piece of red construction paper to a cabinet.
    In room #3 she placed decoy scents, two sausages and two tennis balls hidden together out of view.
    In room #4 she placed a piece of red construction paper at the location of hidden decoy scents, two sausages and two tennis balls.
    The dog-handler teams conducted two separate, five-minute searches of each room. When handlers believed their dogs had indicated a target scent, an observer recorded the location indicated by handlers. All of the teams searched the rooms in a different order.

    Although there should have been no alerts in any of the rooms, there were alerts in all of them. And more alerts occurred at the target locations indicated by human suggestion (red construction paper) than at locations of increased dog interest (sausages and tennis balls).

    Is it any wonder why most law enforcement agencies dig in their heals and stubbornly refuse to maintain, much less publish stats on K9 accuracy rates? I figure they may already know, but they don’t want us to.

  193. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    If 4th amendment protections are to be disregarded so casually, whimsically, and without due process or probable cause, I think the public deserves to know how accurate the dogs have been.

    The handlers were told that there might be up to three of their target scents in each room, and that there would be a piece of red construction paper in two of the rooms that identified the location of the target scent. However, there were no target scents — explosives or drugs — placed in any of the rooms.
    Each room represented a different experimental condition or scenario:
    In room #1 the experimenter did nothing.
    In room #2 she taped a piece of red construction paper to a cabinet.
    In room #3 she placed decoy scents, two sausages and two tennis balls hidden together out of view.
    In room #4 she placed a piece of red construction paper at the location of hidden decoy scents, two sausages and two tennis balls.
    The dog-handler teams conducted two separate, five-minute searches of each room. When handlers believed their dogs had indicated a target scent, an observer recorded the location indicated by handlers. All of the teams searched the rooms in a different order.
    Although there should have been no alerts in any of the rooms, there were alerts in all of them. And more alerts occurred at the target locations indicated by human suggestion (red construction paper) than at locations of increased dog interest (sausages and tennis balls).

    Is it any wonder why most law enforcement agencies dig in their heals and stubbornly refuse to maintain, much less publish stats on K9 accuracy rates? I figure they may already know, but they don’t want us to.

  194. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Sarge: I have never said that each and every moooslim is a terrorist or terrorist sympathizer, don’t paint me with that brush.

    I knw. I;ve already admitted that the only evidence we have is that you think everybody named Achmed wants to kill us, not all muslims. I’ll apologize again.

    I am not advocating genocide or islamocide.

    Your not communicating that very well. Severl of us here, myself included, feel that you are framing your rhetoric so that genocide remains the only option.

    I am advocating a full scale war against the terrorists, their sympathizers and the governments that support/harbor them; even ones that are not named Achmed.

    And what, EXACTLY, would that look like to you?

  195. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Sarge: I have never said that each and every moooslim is a terrorist or terrorist sympathizer, don’t paint me with that brush.

    I knw. I;ve already admitted that the only evidence we have is that you think everybody named Achmed wants to kill us, not all muslims. I’ll apologize again.

    I am not advocating genocide or islamocide.

    Your not communicating that very well. Severl of us here, myself included, feel that you are framing your rhetoric so that genocide remains the only option.

    I am advocating a full scale war against the terrorists, their sympathizers and the governments that support/harbor them; even ones that are not named Achmed.

    And what, EXACTLY, would that look like to you?

  196. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    Hamous 84

    Apples to Oranges. Manufacturing Defects versus Process Change Decisions

    Manufacturing Defects should be somewhere between the 4th and 6th Sigma or 3.4 defects per million @ 6 sigma.

    A “batting” average of 30% when changing a process or implementing a new idea would be impressive. Everyone sooner or later makes an Edsel, “New Coke”, or Traffic Light Camera.

    Simple

    The shuttle launch never came close to that level.

  197. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    Hamous 84
    Apples to Oranges. Manufacturing Defects versus Process Change Decisions
    Manufacturing Defects should be somewhere between the 4th and 6th Sigma or 3.4 defects per million @ 6 sigma.
    A “batting” average of 30% when changing a process or implementing a new idea would be impressive. Everyone sooner or later makes an Edsel, “New Coke”, or Traffic Light Camera.
    Simple
    The shuttle launch never came close to that level.

  198. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    Here’s an article for you photography buffs out there.

    That’s how people took family snaps. With film and miniature incendiary devices.

  199. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Here’s an article for you photography buffs out there.

    That’s how people took family snaps. With film and miniature incendiary devices.

  200. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    95 Hamous,

    I dunno, but I am ready to do a road production of “The Shining”.

    Simple

  201. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    95 Hamous,
    I dunno, but I am ready to do a road production of “The Shining”.
    Simple

  202. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    The shuttle launch never came close to that level.

    NASA said the shuttle launch defect rate for defects sufficient to cause loss of vehicle was about 1 in 100,000 launches. Richard Feynman estimated about 1% based on his own analysis.

    Feynman was incredibly close.

  203. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    The shuttle launch never came close to that level.

    NASA said the shuttle launch defect rate for defects sufficient to cause loss of vehicle was about 1 in 100,000 launches. Richard Feynman estimated about 1% based on his own analysis.
    Feynman was incredibly close.

  204. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Simple Simon says:
    February 4, 2011 at 3:35 pm (Edit)

    Hamous 84

    Apples to Oranges. Manufacturing Defects versus Process Change Decisions

    Yeah, sorta like comparing a weatherman to a Major League baseball player.

  205. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    Simple Simon says:
    February 4, 2011 at 3:35 pm (Edit)
    Hamous 84
    Apples to Oranges. Manufacturing Defects versus Process Change Decisions

    Yeah, sorta like comparing a weatherman to a Major League baseball player.

  206. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    NASA said the shuttle launch defect rate for defects sufficient to cause loss of vehicle was about 1 in 100,000 launches. Richard Feynman estimated about 1% based on his own analysis.

    Whats the defect rate sufficient to scrub a scheduled launch?

  207. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    NASA said the shuttle launch defect rate for defects sufficient to cause loss of vehicle was about 1 in 100,000 launches. Richard Feynman estimated about 1% based on his own analysis.

    Whats the defect rate sufficient to scrub a scheduled launch?

  208. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    No cabin fever here. Tonight I attend a “kid’s” birthday party at a nearby Pub. They simultaneously make me feel both young and old.

    On the Shuttle; I’ve heard that it was a compromise that was too aggressive from the start, and it might have been a better idea to stick with two different vehicle programs. One to do cargo only “heavy lifting” and another to handle human transport and satellite/telescope repair.

    But then, hindsight is always 20:20.

  209. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    No cabin fever here. Tonight I attend a “kid’s” birthday party at a nearby Pub. They simultaneously make me feel both young and old.
    On the Shuttle; I’ve heard that it was a compromise that was too aggressive from the start, and it might have been a better idea to stick with two different vehicle programs. One to do cargo only “heavy lifting” and another to handle human transport and satellite/telescope repair.
    But then, hindsight is always 20:20.

  210. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    Whats the defect rate sufficient to scrub a scheduled launch?

    Defect rates can only be established after the fact. They can be estimated, if certain parameters are established and followed. Challenger’s ill-fated launch was outside the established parameters. Columbia was lost due to falling ice that should have been better addressed several years prior.

    Man-rated vehicles should have much better defect rates.

  211. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Whats the defect rate sufficient to scrub a scheduled launch?

    Defect rates can only be established after the fact. They can be estimated, if certain parameters are established and followed. Challenger’s ill-fated launch was outside the established parameters. Columbia was lost due to falling ice that should have been better addressed several years prior.
    Man-rated vehicles should have much better defect rates.

  212. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    #99 Sarge: You, as the rabbit, can ride across the river on the alligator’s all you wish. I have told you that it is an alligator and that he will eat you but you claim that this one is OK so I am full of sh-t; that does not hide the nature of the alligator. Does that mean that I wish to hunt them to extinction??? No but that damn sure does not meant that I want them in my house either.
    Now to apply the analogy: Unless and until we utterly defeat the terrorists, their supporters and the govts which enable them it is the equivalent of letting the alligator in the house. Unless and until they, the mooooooslims, stop their violence against the innocents it is really hard to differentiate who is whom.
    Remember the war in the Balkans, when slick willie decided to bomb the Serbs? Do you ever wonder why/how the war got started in the first place? After numerous attacks by mooooslims against Christians in the region, including church burnings, rape and murder, the Serbs got a belly full and fought back with the full vigor as should be expected. This is a case where the “adherents of the religion of peace” refused to live in peace with their neighbors as is almost universally the case once they reach critical mass. We went to war against the people DEFENDING THEMSELVES (vigorously I will grant you) against moooooslim aggression. The part about the Serbs DEFENDING THEMSELVES was almost completely left out of the mainstream “news” coverage. We were on the wrong side of that war then, and any alliance with moooslims will only result in our weakening. When the moooooslims change their collective behavior, I will consider changing my position. You can keep your head in the sand if you wish.

  213. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #99 Sarge: You, as the rabbit, can ride across the river on the alligator’s all you wish. I have told you that it is an alligator and that he will eat you but you claim that this one is OK so I am full of sh-t; that does not hide the nature of the alligator. Does that mean that I wish to hunt them to extinction??? No but that damn sure does not meant that I want them in my house either.
    Now to apply the analogy: Unless and until we utterly defeat the terrorists, their supporters and the govts which enable them it is the equivalent of letting the alligator in the house. Unless and until they, the mooooooslims, stop their violence against the innocents it is really hard to differentiate who is whom.
    Remember the war in the Balkans, when slick willie decided to bomb the Serbs? Do you ever wonder why/how the war got started in the first place? After numerous attacks by mooooslims against Christians in the region, including church burnings, rape and murder, the Serbs got a belly full and fought back with the full vigor as should be expected. This is a case where the “adherents of the religion of peace” refused to live in peace with their neighbors as is almost universally the case once they reach critical mass. We went to war against the people DEFENDING THEMSELVES (vigorously I will grant you) against moooooslim aggression. The part about the Serbs DEFENDING THEMSELVES was almost completely left out of the mainstream “news” coverage. We were on the wrong side of that war then, and any alliance with moooslims will only result in our weakening. When the moooooslims change their collective behavior, I will consider changing my position. You can keep your head in the sand if you wish.

  214. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    bob #56;

    just as I have criticized fundamentalist, literalist Christians who support weakening separation of church and state, want to pass laws based on their own quaint interpretations of ancient texts, and support the notion of Christian dominionism.

    And like the fundamentalist Muslims, you do so with not enough discernment. You make little to no distinction between Christian and Christian fundamentalism.

  215. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    bob #56;

    just as I have criticized fundamentalist, literalist Christians who support weakening separation of church and state, want to pass laws based on their own quaint interpretations of ancient texts, and support the notion of Christian dominionism.

    And like the fundamentalist Muslims, you do so with not enough discernment. You make little to no distinction between Christian and Christian fundamentalism.

  216. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Dallin H. Oaks coming up very soon on Hugh Hewitt. Sounds very stirring.

  217. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Dallin H. Oaks coming up very soon on Hugh Hewitt. Sounds very stirring.

  218. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    bob;

    HERE you go.

  219. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    bob;
    HERE you go.

  220. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    I found my Loverboy music. Got some aerobic exercise in, which was much needed as I’ve been sitting on my fat wiss all day. Then I went outside and harvested some lettuce for tonight’s salad. WB – my non-iceberg lettuce is doing great!

    I cannot believe I still have living plants!

    Now I must do dishes and prepare tonight’s dinner. I’m thinking pasta with Italian sausage and a salad.

    And no, I don’t have enough for all of you. Sorry.

  221. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    I found my Loverboy music. Got some aerobic exercise in, which was much needed as I’ve been sitting on my fat wiss all day. Then I went outside and harvested some lettuce for tonight’s salad. WB – my non-iceberg lettuce is doing great!
    I cannot believe I still have living plants!
    Now I must do dishes and prepare tonight’s dinner. I’m thinking pasta with Italian sausage and a salad.
    And no, I don’t have enough for all of you. Sorry.

  222. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Over the past month, several progressive-activist blogs have waged an ugly war against Chick-fil-A. The company’s alleged atrocity: One of its independent outlets in Pennsylvania donated some sandwiches and brownies to a marriage seminar run by the Pennsylvania Family Institute, which happens to oppose same-sex marriage.
    In the name of tolerance, the anti-Chick-fil-A hawks sneered at the company’s main product as “Jesus Chicken,” derided its no-Sunday-work policy, and attacked its operators as “anti-gay.” Michael Jones, who describes himself as having “worked in the field of human rights communications for a decade, most recently for Harvard Law School,” launched an online petition drive at http://www.change.org “demanding” that the company disavow “extreme anti-gay groups.” Facebook users dutifully organized witch hunts against the company on college campuses.
    Over the weekend, New York Times reporter Kim Severson gave the Chick-fil-A bashers a coveted Sunday A-section megaphone — repeatedly parroting the “Chick-fil-A is anti-gay” slur and raising fears of “evangelical Christianity’s muscle flexing” with only the thinnest veneer of journalistic objectivity. Severson, you see, is an openly gay advocate of same-sex-marriage equality herself and the former vice president of the identity-politics–mongering National Gay and Lesbian Journalists Association.

    Typical liberal authoritarians.
    LINK

  223. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    #109 Darren, huh? If I didn’t know better, I’d wonder if you’d been in my stash.

    You make little to no distinction between Christian and Christian fundamentalism

    Ah, so that’s why I have a tolerance bumper sticker on my truck, keep extras and explanatory flyers in the glove box (I get asked) and visit at least two new Christian churches each summer when the UU choir is off duty.
    btw, Here ya go.

  224. El Gordo Avatar
    El Gordo

    No cabin fever here. Learned a long time ago that:

    All work and no play make Dude a dull boy.
    All work and no play make Dude a dull boy.
    All work and no play make Dude a dull boy.
    All work and no play make Dude a dull boy.
    All work and no play make Dude a dull boy.
    All work and no play make Dude a dull boy.
    All work and no play make Dude a dull boy.
    All work and no play make Dude a dull boy.
    All work and no play make Dude a dull boy.
    All work and no play make Dude a dull boy.
    All work and no play make Dude a dull boy.
    All work and no play make Dude a dull boy….

  225. Dude42 Avatar
    Dude42

    No cabin fever here. Learned a long time ago that:
    All work and no play make Dude a dull boy.
    All work and no play make Dude a dull boy.
    All work and no play make Dude a dull boy.
    All work and no play make Dude a dull boy.
    All work and no play make Dude a dull boy.
    All work and no play make Dude a dull boy.
    All work and no play make Dude a dull boy.
    All work and no play make Dude a dull boy.
    All work and no play make Dude a dull boy.
    All work and no play make Dude a dull boy.
    All work and no play make Dude a dull boy.
    All work and no play make Dude a dull boy….

  226. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Ah, so that’s why I have a tolerance bumper sticker on my truck, keep extras and explanatory flyers in the glove box (I get asked) and visit at least two new Christian churches each summer when the UU choir is off duty.

    Bob, listen. **You** make no such distinction. **You** post the fundamentalist Christian posts here quite frequently. If you did the same regarding Islam, which you don’t, only make good comments about Islam, I’d say you’d be worked up over Islam in general. These were my words:

    you do so with not enough discernment. You make little to no distinction between Christian and Christian fundamentalism

    Emphasis mine.

  227. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Ah, so that’s why I have a tolerance bumper sticker on my truck, keep extras and explanatory flyers in the glove box (I get asked) and visit at least two new Christian churches each summer when the UU choir is off duty.

    Bob, listen. **You** make no such distinction. **You** post the fundamentalist Christian posts here quite frequently. If you did the same regarding Islam, which you don’t, only make good comments about Islam, I’d say you’d be worked up over Islam in general. These were my words:

    you do so with not enough discernment. You make little to no distinction between Christian and Christian fundamentalism

    Emphasis mine.

  228. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Darren,

    Typical liberal authoritarians.

    I think WB posted something about Chick-fil-A Monday, to which I replied:

    Teh Gayz can eat wherever they like, or not.

    Personally, I think the Chick-fil-a nugget party platters (available in different sizes) are a proven price performer, having soothed the nearly insatiable appetites of hoards of hungry teens that used to hang out here more often, and quite tasty to boot. It would be nice if they were open on Sundays too, but that’s no biggie. The nuggets are good cold too. I’ve seen kids devour them for breakfast.

    Authoritarians? Get real. There’s a huge difference between free speech and authoritarianism. Nobody is saying the government should force that company to open on Sundays or change their religious beliefs. And nobody is saying that the government should stop the AFA from listing dozens of “gay friendly” companies on their “boycott lists” as they have been doing for years and years.

  229. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    Darren,

    Typical liberal authoritarians.

    I think WB posted something about Chick-fil-A Monday, to which I replied:

    Teh Gayz can eat wherever they like, or not.
    Personally, I think the Chick-fil-a nugget party platters (available in different sizes) are a proven price performer, having soothed the nearly insatiable appetites of hoards of hungry teens that used to hang out here more often, and quite tasty to boot. It would be nice if they were open on Sundays too, but that’s no biggie. The nuggets are good cold too. I’ve seen kids devour them for breakfast.

    Authoritarians? Get real. There’s a huge difference between free speech and authoritarianism. Nobody is saying the government should force that company to open on Sundays or change their religious beliefs. And nobody is saying that the government should stop the AFA from listing dozens of “gay friendly” companies on their “boycott lists” as they have been doing for years and years.

  230. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #116 Selective memory?

  231. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    #116 Selective memory?

  232. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    HERE, bob.

  233. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    HERE, bob.

  234. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Authoritarians? Get real. There’s a huge difference between free speech and authoritarianism.

    Just wait and see.

  235. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Authoritarians? Get real. There’s a huge difference between free speech and authoritarianism.

    Just wait and see.

  236. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #89 Hamous, Agreed. Caligula’s horse wouldn’t have said that.

  237. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #89 Hamous, Agreed. Caligula’s horse wouldn’t have said that.

  238. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #121 Adee 😀

  239. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #121 Adee 😀

  240. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Caligula’s horse wouldn’t have said that.

    He’d say “neigh” to both Obama and McCain. 🙂

  241. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Caligula’s horse wouldn’t have said that.

    He’d say “neigh” to both Obama and McCain. 🙂

  242. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    I too say Nay to both Obama and McCain.

  243. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    I too say Nay to both Obama and McCain.

  244. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    bob;

    I’m not arguing about any politician, including conservatives, who would rather allow current federal drug policies carry out rather than take the position that the federal government should not have such authority in the first place. Mike Lee is the only national figure I can think of that has ever taken that position and has laid out the case clearly with no ambiguity. The article I posted the other day from Buckley Jr.’s prize child, National Review Online, even said as much. But Lee is not of the position to get rid of federal drug policies because drug policies are bad, waste, money, ruin lives needlessly, blah, blah, blah. That’s Gary Johnson’s position and it’s more of a libertarian one, not conservative. Mike Lee’s made it clear that he favors eradicating federal drug policies on purely intrastate drug action in order to preserve the federalistic nature of our government. I strongly suspect that had Johnson presented his own answer along those lines thse “authoritarian” tea partiers would have cheered, not booed him. Johnson, like you, is probably far too idealistc to think along those lines and therefore he deserves every single boo he gets and these booes are not at all inherently authoritarian.

    Now, you’ve bashed Nixon in again, and again, and again, and again for the War on Drugs yet when chellenged as to where he got his power to wage such a war, you have said absolutely nothing except to attack me who pointed out that it was part of The New Deal legislation.

    Up to this point you’ve said nothing as to what liberals have done to open up this war you so heedlessly condemn. NOTHING. When presented the 2005 court case which reaffirmed the federal government’s power to wage this war, you’ve said nothing against it excep rack Scalia over the coals over the coals for being authoritarian. He was but one of 5 justices who voted for that decision and yet, oddly enough, the only one you isolated to berate as authoritarian. In other instances, you have openly suported the court in authorizing the federal government to control state legislation. Those are very liberal judges in nature and by what I find of no irony, you left all the liberal judges alone in the Gonzalez v. Raich case but attacked Scalia exclusively. Scalia and the four others voted for the exact same authoritarian government but it’s Scalia that you chose to target.

    After being presented with presented with The New Deal legislation that gave the federal government authoritarian powers to crack down (no pun intended) on drugs, you accused me for trying to stretch things make the connection to federal drug crack down and The New Deal. You attack conservatives in an isolated and targetted fashiopn and as seen right here you do not do as much for liberal authoritarians. Don’t talk about how Republicans are wasting an opportunity to clear their name in federalism when you yourself refuses to clear up your name and present a more honest position regarding your personal beliefs and desires.

    The DEA and the ONDCP are two federal departments with fat budgets, much of which is wasted on cannabis prohibition. I think they should be drastically cut, if not entirely eliminated. If voters in a state wish to continue to attempt to prohibit cannabis, I say let them pay for it with state funds, not mine.

    That’s a very sensical argument to make and I don’t think you’ll find anyone on Hamous’ website disagreeing with that.

    [This post cross posted HERE]

  245. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    bob;
    I’m not arguing about any politician, including conservatives, who would rather allow current federal drug policies carry out rather than take the position that the federal government should not have such authority in the first place. Mike Lee is the only national figure I can think of that has ever taken that position and has laid out the case clearly with no ambiguity. The article I posted the other day from Buckley Jr.’s prize child, National Review Online, even said as much. But Lee is not of the position to get rid of federal drug policies because drug policies are bad, waste, money, ruin lives needlessly, blah, blah, blah. That’s Gary Johnson’s position and it’s more of a libertarian one, not conservative. Mike Lee’s made it clear that he favors eradicating federal drug policies on purely intrastate drug action in order to preserve the federalistic nature of our government. I strongly suspect that had Johnson presented his own answer along those lines thse “authoritarian” tea partiers would have cheered, not booed him. Johnson, like you, is probably far too idealistc to think along those lines and therefore he deserves every single boo he gets and these booes are not at all inherently authoritarian.
    Now, you’ve bashed Nixon in again, and again, and again, and again for the War on Drugs yet when chellenged as to where he got his power to wage such a war, you have said absolutely nothing except to attack me who pointed out that it was part of The New Deal legislation.
    Up to this point you’ve said nothing as to what liberals have done to open up this war you so heedlessly condemn. NOTHING. When presented the 2005 court case which reaffirmed the federal government’s power to wage this war, you’ve said nothing against it excep rack Scalia over the coals over the coals for being authoritarian. He was but one of 5 justices who voted for that decision and yet, oddly enough, the only one you isolated to berate as authoritarian. In other instances, you have openly suported the court in authorizing the federal government to control state legislation. Those are very liberal judges in nature and by what I find of no irony, you left all the liberal judges alone in the Gonzalez v. Raich case but attacked Scalia exclusively. Scalia and the four others voted for the exact same authoritarian government but it’s Scalia that you chose to target.
    After being presented with presented with The New Deal legislation that gave the federal government authoritarian powers to crack down (no pun intended) on drugs, you accused me for trying to stretch things make the connection to federal drug crack down and The New Deal. You attack conservatives in an isolated and targetted fashiopn and as seen right here you do not do as much for liberal authoritarians. Don’t talk about how Republicans are wasting an opportunity to clear their name in federalism when you yourself refuses to clear up your name and present a more honest position regarding your personal beliefs and desires.

    The DEA and the ONDCP are two federal departments with fat budgets, much of which is wasted on cannabis prohibition. I think they should be drastically cut, if not entirely eliminated. If voters in a state wish to continue to attempt to prohibit cannabis, I say let them pay for it with state funds, not mine.

    That’s a very sensical argument to make and I don’t think you’ll find anyone on Hamous’ website disagreeing with that.
    [This post cross posted HERE]

  246. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    #124;

    Phew, mharper is human and not a horse. We were getting worried. Just for the record, Ms. Harper, I don’t care what they saty about you. I’m on your side. 😉

  247. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    #124;
    Phew, mharper is human and not a horse. We were getting worried. Just for the record, Ms. Harper, I don’t care what they saty about you. I’m on your side. 😉

  248. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Following the release of a video that has received nationwide attention showing Planned Parenthood staff at a New Jersey abortion center helping alleged sexual traffickers cover up their crimes with abortions and STD testing, Governor Chris Christie has vetoed a bill funding Planned Parenthood.

    Go Christie,
    Go Christie,
    Go Christie…

    LINK

  249. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Following the release of a video that has received nationwide attention showing Planned Parenthood staff at a New Jersey abortion center helping alleged sexual traffickers cover up their crimes with abortions and STD testing, Governor Chris Christie has vetoed a bill funding Planned Parenthood.

    Go Christie,
    Go Christie,
    Go Christie…
    LINK

  250. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Darren, do your homework on Nixon, please! The tapes, finally released years after his presidency are time consuming, but worth it.

    As for bashing liberals, yes, right here I’ve pointed out my disappointment in the democratic CA politicians that were too opportunistically wimpy to support the legalize/regulate measure (I had mild criticism for that measure too), and back on the “old couch,” I criticized Obama for making fun of the #1 online question at an early town hall, and appointing yet another long time professional drug warrior as czar. And I’ve characterized both halves of the duopoly as being willfully dishonest on drug policy, and they theorized that they do so for power and personal gain.

    Nobody can read everything, so maybe it’s not all selective perception/memory, but still dude, your allegation that I only criticize conservative authoritarians is pure fantasy. I’m equally against liberal authoritarianism.

    But back to basics. To date (and pardon me if I missed something) in regard to continuing cannabis prohibition, I don’t think you have offered up a single shred of real evidence backing up your support of any level of government dictating what people may eat, drink, smoke, or grow on their own property. You’ve offered only emotional anecdotals, and echoes of the long debunked propaganda fed to you by the ONDCP or other authoritarian organizations.

    I’m glad we can agree the DEA and ONDCP should be cut/eliminated.

    That’s a very sensical argument to make and I don’t think you’ll find anyone on Hamous’ website disagreeing with that.

    But I’m not holding my breath for that to happen, thanks to the authoritarian politicians on both wings of the political bird.

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    bob42

    Darren, do your homework on Nixon, please! The tapes, finally released years after his presidency are time consuming, but worth it.
    As for bashing liberals, yes, right here I’ve pointed out my disappointment in the democratic CA politicians that were too opportunistically wimpy to support the legalize/regulate measure (I had mild criticism for that measure too), and back on the “old couch,” I criticized Obama for making fun of the #1 online question at an early town hall, and appointing yet another long time professional drug warrior as czar. And I’ve characterized both halves of the duopoly as being willfully dishonest on drug policy, and they theorized that they do so for power and personal gain.
    Nobody can read everything, so maybe it’s not all selective perception/memory, but still dude, your allegation that I only criticize conservative authoritarians is pure fantasy. I’m equally against liberal authoritarianism.
    But back to basics. To date (and pardon me if I missed something) in regard to continuing cannabis prohibition, I don’t think you have offered up a single shred of real evidence backing up your support of any level of government dictating what people may eat, drink, smoke, or grow on their own property. You’ve offered only emotional anecdotals, and echoes of the long debunked propaganda fed to you by the ONDCP or other authoritarian organizations.
    I’m glad we can agree the DEA and ONDCP should be cut/eliminated.

    That’s a very sensical argument to make and I don’t think you’ll find anyone on Hamous’ website disagreeing with that.

    But I’m not holding my breath for that to happen, thanks to the authoritarian politicians on both wings of the political bird.

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