Shortly before I signed off Monday night, I brought up the fact that certain arguments here have been hashed, rehashed, refried, then reborn to be rehashed again. What is it in us that makes us go over the same things over and over? A desire to be deemed “right”? Our inability to accept that some people are idiots and will remain idiots, no matter how hard we shove facts at them? (And as Queen, I reserve the right to title the idiots in my company. Well, when my royal status is recognized, anyway. (smiley-face thingie)). Does it do any good?
Birthers, for example. One might say that their haranguing the legal system regarding Obama’s birth certificate, his Indonesian citizenship, etc., might be a composting equine position. But it seems that it might finally be getting somewhere, with a few Democrats wanting to shut them up by granting access to the certificate, albeit for a small fee. Which I think is stupid. Once the first birther gets their hands on it, he will either deny its authenticity, which will bring a whole new slew of arguments, or he will display it for all to see, which means only one person need pay the $100. But I digress – has their beating that poor animal after its expiration actually gotten them somewhere?
And then there’s the atheism-Christian argument regarding the whole “where’d we come from” question. Will arguing about it change anything? Will people change their minds, in numbers enough to mean anything?
And don’t get started on the War on Drugs. That WOD of a problem has consumed many threads here at Hammy’s Comfy Couch. We all know who the guilty parties are, so names will not be mentioned.
What is it that drives us? I see this on the left, on the right, even the “moderates” argue their “moderateness” and look upon it as a badge of honor. Is it something in our DNA that keeps us returning to that composting equine with our sticks, to wreak more havoc upon the carcass? With gas masks, of course.
Question: Do we argue because we love to argue? Because we all have an innate desire to be declared “right”? Or do we actually think we’ll change minds? Or are we so passionate about certain topics that we simply cannot fathom anyone thinking differently? And how many times has the revisiting a dead horse with clubs in hand affected or changed our society? (Examples, please.)
I look at the foregoing paragraph and see myself reflected in several of those reasons. What drives you?
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At some point the “dead horse” analogy itself becomes a dead horse.
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At some point the “dead horse” analogy itself becomes a dead horse.
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I think the collective stress and anxiety over the limited supply of Shiner 101 is to blame.
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I think the collective stress and anxiety over the limited supply of Shiner 101 is to blame.
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It’s in the male DNA to get the greased pig up the oily hill, cause that’s where the Shiner is!
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It’s in the male DNA to get the greased pig up the oily hill, cause that’s where the Shiner is!
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Lurker is ReeC is it/she not?
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Lurker is ReeC is it/she not?
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The main reason these subjects get brought up is not a desire to have open and honest discussion. Rather, they are brought up as a platform to bash Republicans, Conservatives, and Christians. It is purely political and merely the latest iteration of Mobyism, of the type we saw on LST for years.
Both the WoD rant and the Evolution rant are prime examples. They give the gentleman the opportunity to use words like “authoritarian” and to cast Believers as ignorant. The idea is to draw out commenters who might make statements that can then be used, with shakey credibility, to illustrate those points. The goal is to keep certain hateful concepts in the public mind: that Conservatives (and Christians) are threats to out Liberty and desire to create authoritarian rule in this country and that Conservatives (and Christians) are ignent knuckle dragging troglodytes.
Its not just here, its all over the internet. It is the kind of cowardly and hateful tactics ones uses when one’s side has no real argument or is losing badly.
It IS biogtry, both political and religious, and we should call it out for what it is instead of falling into the trap. When we do that, the subject becomes the hatred and bigotry, not the manufactured concepts.
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The main reason these subjects get brought up is not a desire to have open and honest discussion. Rather, they are brought up as a platform to bash Republicans, Conservatives, and Christians. It is purely political and merely the latest iteration of Mobyism, of the type we saw on LST for years.
Both the WoD rant and the Evolution rant are prime examples. They give the gentleman the opportunity to use words like “authoritarian” and to cast Believers as ignorant. The idea is to draw out commenters who might make statements that can then be used, with shakey credibility, to illustrate those points. The goal is to keep certain hateful concepts in the public mind: that Conservatives (and Christians) are threats to out Liberty and desire to create authoritarian rule in this country and that Conservatives (and Christians) are ignent knuckle dragging troglodytes.
Its not just here, its all over the internet. It is the kind of cowardly and hateful tactics ones uses when one’s side has no real argument or is losing badly.
It IS biogtry, both political and religious, and we should call it out for what it is instead of falling into the trap. When we do that, the subject becomes the hatred and bigotry, not the manufactured concepts. -
#1 So should we argue about that? How many iterations would it take to collapse the universe?
The tribal wisdom of the Dakota Indians, passed on from generation to
generation, says that when you discover that you are riding a dead horse, the best strategy is to dismount.However, in modern business, education and government (and blogosphere), a whole range of far more advanced strategies are often employed, such as: « When you discover that you are riding a dead horse, the best strategy is to
1. Buy a stronger whip.
2. Change riders.
3. Threaten the horse with termination.
4. Appoint a committee to study the horse.
5. Arrange to visit other countries to see how others ride dead horses.
6. Lower the standards so that dead horses can be included.
7. Reclassify the dead horse as “living impaired”.
8. Hire outside contractors to ride the dead horse.
9. Harness several dead horses together to increase the speed.
10. Provide additional funding and/or training to increase the dead horse’s
performance.
11. Do a productivity study to see if lighter riders would improve the dead
horse’s performance.
12. Declare that as the dead horse does not have to be fed, it is less costly,
carries lower overhead and therefore contributes substantially more to the
bottom line of the economy than do some other horses.
13. Rewrite the expected performance requirements for all horses.
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#1 So should we argue about that? How many iterations would it take to collapse the universe?
The tribal wisdom of the Dakota Indians, passed on from generation to
generation, says that when you discover that you are riding a dead horse, the best strategy is to dismount.
However, in modern business, education and government (and blogosphere), a whole range of far more advanced strategies are often employed, such as: « When you discover that you are riding a dead horse, the best strategy is to
1. Buy a stronger whip.
2. Change riders.
3. Threaten the horse with termination.
4. Appoint a committee to study the horse.
5. Arrange to visit other countries to see how others ride dead horses.
6. Lower the standards so that dead horses can be included.
7. Reclassify the dead horse as “living impaired”.
8. Hire outside contractors to ride the dead horse.
9. Harness several dead horses together to increase the speed.
10. Provide additional funding and/or training to increase the dead horse’s
performance.
11. Do a productivity study to see if lighter riders would improve the dead
horse’s performance.
12. Declare that as the dead horse does not have to be fed, it is less costly,
carries lower overhead and therefore contributes substantially more to the
bottom line of the economy than do some other horses.
13. Rewrite the expected performance requirements for all horses.
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So should we argue about that? How many iterations would it take to collapse the universe?
Interesting questions, those. No matter though. I’m still right and you’re still wrong.
🙂
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So should we argue about that? How many iterations would it take to collapse the universe?
Interesting questions, those. No matter though. I’m still right and you’re still wrong.
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#s 2 & 3 make a solid point. I’d be hard pressed to see where beer could ever be a dead horse.
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#s 2 & 3 make a solid point. I’d be hard pressed to see where beer could ever be a dead horse.
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Quote of the Day:
“You can’t get fresh, hot, steamin’, Colorado Rocky Mountain trail biscuits from a dead horse.”
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Quote of the Day:
“You can’t get fresh, hot, steamin’, Colorado Rocky Mountain trail biscuits from a dead horse.” -
The Queen declares it a Hambone agreement day.
1-9 Y’all are so right.
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The Queen declares it a Hambone agreement day.
1-9 Y’all are so right. -
Will there be any dead horses in heaven? Is it true that in heaven there is no beer? Therein lies the answer.
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Will there be any dead horses in heaven? Is it true that in heaven there is no beer? Therein lies the answer.
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Does the absence of dead horses and beer in heaven prove they don’t exist?
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Does the absence of dead horses and beer in heaven prove they don’t exist?
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No beer in heaven?!?! WTH!?!?
Has this place degenerated into some sort of weird, satanic cyber-cult? I’m not really sure of anything now. I’m going to have to put my head down on my desk and have myself a personal moment.
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No beer in heaven?!?! WTH!?!?
Has this place degenerated into some sort of weird, satanic cyber-cult? I’m not really sure of anything now. I’m going to have to put my head down on my desk and have myself a personal moment. -
I do not believe that allowing fraudulent statements to stand unchallenged is prudent. Claiming that evolution is science and ID is not is fraudulent (intellectual flatulence) and must not be allowed to stand.
Other examples:
conservatives are racist, bigoted, homophobic, xenophobic hatemongers.
Believers in the Messiah are intolerant of other beliefs
conservatives are not compassionate
political correctness is correctI think you get the idea. Do not let falsehoods/false stereotypes stand.
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I do not believe that allowing fraudulent statements to stand unchallenged is prudent. Claiming that evolution is science and ID is not is fraudulent (intellectual flatulence) and must not be allowed to stand.
Other examples:
conservatives are racist, bigoted, homophobic, xenophobic hatemongers.
Believers in the Messiah are intolerant of other beliefs
conservatives are not compassionate
political correctness is correct
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The “nun” that claimed to be raped is a liar
from the comments section:Samuel Lee
7:53:01 AM
Feb 1, 2011This is the tip of the iceberg.. How many men are in jail because of a woman’s buyer’s remorse as it pertains to sex? First of all, according to research, rape is one of many women’s biggest fantasy. Why? Because it absolves them of responsibilities for having sex that they really want to have but want to accept no responsiblity for choosing to have. Second, according to research, false rape claims are prevelant and usually evident but police are just to bra and panties blind to crack down on it. Finally, women are not held accountable for their lies. Add all this together, and you will end up with many innocent men in jail
h/t Drudge
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The “nun” that claimed to be raped is a liar
from the comments section:Samuel Lee
7:53:01 AM
Feb 1, 2011
This is the tip of the iceberg.. How many men are in jail because of a woman’s buyer’s remorse as it pertains to sex? First of all, according to research, rape is one of many women’s biggest fantasy. Why? Because it absolves them of responsibilities for having sex that they really want to have but want to accept no responsiblity for choosing to have. Second, according to research, false rape claims are prevelant and usually evident but police are just to bra and panties blind to crack down on it. Finally, women are not held accountable for their lies. Add all this together, and you will end up with many innocent men in jailh/t Drudge
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“It was all proven to be false. It wasn’t her fault. She is going to move out and we are going to get her some help.”
It wasn’t her fault??? They should get themselves some help while they’re at it.
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“It was all proven to be false. It wasn’t her fault. She is going to move out and we are going to get her some help.”
It wasn’t her fault??? They should get themselves some help while they’re at it.
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G’Morning all:
6 Hamous says:
February 1, 2011 at 7:22 am#1 So should we argue about that? How many iterations would it take to collapse the universe?
The tribal wisdom of the Dakota Indians, passed on from generation to generation, says that when you discover that you are riding a dead horse, the best strategy is to dismount.
Very good analogy, sir.
13 Dude42 says:
February 1, 2011 at 8:06 amNo beer in heaven?!?! WTH!?!?
From an old German polka: “In heaven there is no beer, that’s why I drink it here.”
And then, What I can add:
with a few Democrats wanting to shut them up by granting access to the certificate, albeit for a small fee.
Correction: They are not giving access to the birth certificate, rather “an official state document stating that Obama was born there.” This will appease no one and only increase the accusations
Question: Do we argue because we love to argue?
I quit arguing years ago. As I have posted here before, I state my opinion and shut up. You are then free to do as you please with it. You can build a shrine around it or put it in the bottom of the bird cage. If you post a varying opinion, I will read and digest it to expound my thinking on the subject.
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G’Morning all:
6 Hamous says:
February 1, 2011 at 7:22 am
#1 So should we argue about that? How many iterations would it take to collapse the universe?
The tribal wisdom of the Dakota Indians, passed on from generation to generation, says that when you discover that you are riding a dead horse, the best strategy is to dismount.Very good analogy, sir.
13 Dude42 says:
February 1, 2011 at 8:06 am
No beer in heaven?!?! WTH!?!?From an old German polka: “In heaven there is no beer, that’s why I drink it here.”
And then, What I can add:with a few Democrats wanting to shut them up by granting access to the certificate, albeit for a small fee.
Correction: They are not giving access to the birth certificate, rather “an official state document stating that Obama was born there.” This will appease no one and only increase the accusations
Question: Do we argue because we love to argue?
I quit arguing years ago. As I have posted here before, I state my opinion and shut up. You are then free to do as you please with it. You can build a shrine around it or put it in the bottom of the bird cage. If you post a varying opinion, I will read and digest it to expound my thinking on the subject.
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I think you get the idea. Do not let falsehoods/false stereotypes stand.
And don’t let the spectre of a dead horse keep you from doing so. The only real way to keep from seeing the dead horse being flayed about is to change the subject to the motivations and biases of the person instroducing the subject into the conversation, and the rhetoric used to do so. Rarely is the subject introduced without some sort of invective insult or demonizing language.
Remember:
The mantra of the Left is that we are all racist, crazy, or stupid dupes (or any combination or iteration of those three). Whenever these subjects are introduced, the motive is to reinforce those concepts. Make them the subject, not Conservative or Christian beliefs. Make it more costly to them to bring the subject up than what they might gain by doing so.
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I think you get the idea. Do not let falsehoods/false stereotypes stand.
And don’t let the spectre of a dead horse keep you from doing so. The only real way to keep from seeing the dead horse being flayed about is to change the subject to the motivations and biases of the person instroducing the subject into the conversation, and the rhetoric used to do so. Rarely is the subject introduced without some sort of invective insult or demonizing language.
Remember:
The mantra of the Left is that we are all racist, crazy, or stupid dupes (or any combination or iteration of those three). Whenever these subjects are introduced, the motive is to reinforce those concepts. Make them the subject, not Conservative or Christian beliefs. Make it more costly to them to bring the subject up than what they might gain by doing so. -
I post this as a forwarded item. Don’t know if it is real or not, but it is well written.
An open letter to citizen revolutionaries everywhere:
So, you’ve toppled your dictator and you’re celebrating your nation’s liberation from tyranny.
Congratulations!
Now what?
If you’re an aspiring tyrant yourself, you already know what you’re going to do. But if you’re like hundreds of millions of people around the world, you want to live in freedom. You don’t want to trade one tyrant for another. You want liberty and prosperity and a normal life, the kind of life that people have when they live in a free country.
But how do you set up a free country?
It’s easier than you think.
Freedom is not a mystical and incomprehensible force that penetrates some borders and not others. It’s simple: Freedom is a condition that exists under a government of limited power.
Don’t make the mistake of thinking elections are the key to freedom. Limited government power is the key to freedom. Without limits on government power, elections are just mob rule.
So if you want to set up a free country, the first thing you need is a written Constitution that sets up a government and identifies exactly what it is allowed to do. It’s a good idea to divide the government into sections as a safeguard. Limit the power of the government, then limit the power of each section of the government, then limit the terms of each person in the government.
You may want to spell out the rights that all citizens have, rights that the government will not be permitted to infringe. Even though you’ve already limited the power of the government, it never hurts to be extra clear that you really mean it.
It’s very important to have an independent judiciary. Make sure your judges can’t be fired by government officials who don’t like their rulings. You don’t have a free country unless the law applies to everybody, especially government officials.
You may not be a fan of the British Empire, but if you want to set up a free country you’ll like the work of Sir William Blackstone, the 18th century legal scholar who said the fundamental rights of free men are life, liberty and property.
Blackstone wrote that the foundation of freedom was the right to your own life and limbs, the right to move freely from place to place, and the right to own and enjoy your property. In a free country these rights can be taken away only by “due process of law” and not by arbitrary power. An example of due process would be a properly authorized law enforcement action and a fair trial. An example of arbitrary power would be someone knocking down your door and taking you away in the night, then holding you for some indefinite period on some unspecified charge.
Whatever you do, don’t make the mistake of thinking that all the goods and services produced in your country belong to everyone, and the government’s job is to distribute them fairly. It may sound like a good idea, but it makes the government all-powerful, and then you’re not living in a free country. Freedom is a condition that exists under a government of limited power. In a free country, the goods and services produced belong to the individuals who produce them, and the government’s job is to protect private property from those who would take it by force or by fraud.
When people can keep the fruits of their own labor, they are free to study and invest and work and build, secure in the knowledge that eventually they will reap the benefits of their efforts. That’s how freedom creates prosperity.
When everything belongs to everybody and the government is the distributor, there is no incentive to study, invest, work or build. That’s how collectivism creates poverty.
Really, it’s simple. Limit the power of government, protect the individual’s right to life, liberty and property, pick out a national anthem, and join the free world.
Welcome. Give us a call if you need any help.
Best regards,
The American Tea Party -
Sara speaks with forked tongue.
Because of the ominously noted copyright law, I won’t copy and paste anything.
Apparently, at a Lubbock school fundraiser Palin was the guest speaker at, security would not allow any arms inside, even with a concealed carry permit. The Lubbock Police Department stated no one questioned the forbidding of guns by Palin’s staff, and and even Palin indicated she would do so at all future engagements. Apparently neither Texas law nor Second Amendment rights apply to those more important than the constitution.Copyright 2011 madison.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
Article here.
http://host.madison.com/ct/news/opinion/mailbag/article_1f0e4d03-47d4-5677-9b40-41ec3aec503c.html
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Sara speaks with forked tongue.
Because of the ominously noted copyright law, I won’t copy and paste anything.
Apparently, at a Lubbock school fundraiser Palin was the guest speaker at, security would not allow any arms inside, even with a concealed carry permit. The Lubbock Police Department stated no one questioned the forbidding of guns by Palin’s staff, and and even Palin indicated she would do so at all future engagements. Apparently neither Texas law nor Second Amendment rights apply to those more important than the constitution.
Copyright 2011 madison.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
Article here.
http://host.madison.com/ct/news/opinion/mailbag/article_1f0e4d03-47d4-5677-9b40-41ec3aec503c.html -
#11 hamous
Is it true that in heaven there is no beer?
Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.
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#11 hamous
Is it true that in heaven there is no beer?
Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.
— Witticism mistakenly attributed to Benjamin Franklin -
#21 wagonburner
From my #17
From an old German polka: “In heaven there is no beer, that’s why I drink it here.”
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#21 wagonburner
From my #17
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#19 An additional suggestion courtesy of Billy:
The first thing we do, let’s kill all the lawyers.
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#19 An additional suggestion courtesy of Billy:
The first thing we do, let’s kill all the lawyers.
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From Judge Vinson’s ruling yesterday:
It would be a radical departure from existing case law to hold that Congress can regulate inactivity under the Commerce Clause. If it has the power to compel an otherwise passive individual into a commercial transaction with a third party merely by asserting — as was done in the Act — that compelling the actual transaction is itself “commercial and economic in nature, and substantially affects interstate commerce” [see Act § 1501(a)(1)], it is not hyperbolizing to suggest that Congress could do almost anything it wanted. It is difficult to imagine that a nation which began, at least in part, as the result of opposition to a British mandate giving the East India Company a monopoly and imposing a nominal tax on all tea sold in America would have set out to create a government with the power to force people to buy tea in the first place. If Congress can penalize a passive individual for failing to engage in commerce, the enumeration of powers in the Constitution would have been in vain for it would be “difficult to perceive any limitation on federal power” [Lopez, supra, 514 U.S. at 564], and we would have a Constitution in name only. Surely this is not what the Founding Fathers could have intended.
I’m glad he addressed this issue in the large sense, but something still doesn’t make sense to me. Several non-legal minds (including mine) questioned how the fed could legally invoke The Interstate Commerce Clause to justify mandating a purchase of services which you can not purchase across state lines. It seems to me that it doesn’t fit the very definition itself, so how could that have ever been a valid justification in the first place? Anyway, this was a great ruling.
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From Judge Vinson’s ruling yesterday:
It would be a radical departure from existing case law to hold that Congress can regulate inactivity under the Commerce Clause. If it has the power to compel an otherwise passive individual into a commercial transaction with a third party merely by asserting — as was done in the Act — that compelling the actual transaction is itself “commercial and economic in nature, and substantially affects interstate commerce” [see Act § 1501(a)(1)], it is not hyperbolizing to suggest that Congress could do almost anything it wanted. It is difficult to imagine that a nation which began, at least in part, as the result of opposition to a British mandate giving the East India Company a monopoly and imposing a nominal tax on all tea sold in America would have set out to create a government with the power to force people to buy tea in the first place. If Congress can penalize a passive individual for failing to engage in commerce, the enumeration of powers in the Constitution would have been in vain for it would be “difficult to perceive any limitation on federal power” [Lopez, supra, 514 U.S. at 564], and we would have a Constitution in name only. Surely this is not what the Founding Fathers could have intended.
I’m glad he addressed this issue in the large sense, but something still doesn’t make sense to me. Several non-legal minds (including mine) questioned how the fed could legally invoke The Interstate Commerce Clause to justify mandating a purchase of services which you can not purchase across state lines. It seems to me that it doesn’t fit the very definition itself, so how could that have ever been a valid justification in the first place? Anyway, this was a great ruling.
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I often seem to hear various polls being conducted about what is more important or less important than something else, or whose fault is it that something happened, etc.; normally followed by a few answers to select from – none of which are appealing. I heard one this morning discussing Sunday liquor sales and talking about how much more tax money it would raise, etc. and soliciting some opinion or another. Seems like almost every day some politician is coming up with some new way to raise a fee or tax my neighbor but not tax me or some other such nonsense, and I think I may have stumbled upon a simple, universal answer for all those questions – “cut spending.” Every time someone wants to raise the zoo fees or parking ticket fines or motel taxes (taxes the out of towner you know, not the local voter) just respond with “cut spending.”
What do you think about that, assuming you are not smoking dope and are capable of thinking at all?
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I often seem to hear various polls being conducted about what is more important or less important than something else, or whose fault is it that something happened, etc.; normally followed by a few answers to select from – none of which are appealing. I heard one this morning discussing Sunday liquor sales and talking about how much more tax money it would raise, etc. and soliciting some opinion or another. Seems like almost every day some politician is coming up with some new way to raise a fee or tax my neighbor but not tax me or some other such nonsense, and I think I may have stumbled upon a simple, universal answer for all those questions – “cut spending.” Every time someone wants to raise the zoo fees or parking ticket fines or motel taxes (taxes the out of towner you know, not the local voter) just respond with “cut spending.”
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#20 If it was a Christian school that means it was on private property. Private property owners can prohibit CCL holders from carrying on their premises. All they have to do is post the proper signage. The article doesn’t say whether that was the case.
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#20 If it was a Christian school that means it was on private property. Private property owners can prohibit CCL holders from carrying on their premises. All they have to do is post the proper signage. The article doesn’t say whether that was the case.
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Is it time to get out the tinfoil hats?
WND THE FINAL FRONTIER
Easter Sunday asteroid on path toward Earth
Hubble spokesman says real ‘Sputnik moment’ needed to deflect its path
Posted: January 31, 2011
9:05 pm EasternBy Drew Zahn
© 2011 WorldNetDailyDoomsday asteroid on its way?
Forget about President Obama’s State of the Union Address, writes Ray Villard, news director for the Hubble Space Telescope, America’s real “Sputnik moment” should be attempting to deflect an asteroid currently hurtling toward Earth.
Earlier this year, Russian scientist Leonid Sokolov of St. Petersburg State University announced his calculations that the asteroid Apophis will pass within 18,000 miles of Earth, close enough to knock geosynchronous satellites out of the sky.
Villard warns, however, that when Apophis comes screaming by on Easter Sunday, April 13, 2036, there’s no guarantee it won’t stray from course and strike the planet
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Is it time to get out the tinfoil hats?
WND THE FINAL FRONTIER
Easter Sunday asteroid on path toward Earth
Hubble spokesman says real ‘Sputnik moment’ needed to deflect its path
Posted: January 31, 2011
9:05 pm Eastern
By Drew Zahn
© 2011 WorldNetDaily
Doomsday asteroid on its way?
Forget about President Obama’s State of the Union Address, writes Ray Villard, news director for the Hubble Space Telescope, America’s real “Sputnik moment” should be attempting to deflect an asteroid currently hurtling toward Earth.
Earlier this year, Russian scientist Leonid Sokolov of St. Petersburg State University announced his calculations that the asteroid Apophis will pass within 18,000 miles of Earth, close enough to knock geosynchronous satellites out of the sky.
Villard warns, however, that when Apophis comes screaming by on Easter Sunday, April 13, 2036, there’s no guarantee it won’t stray from course and strike the planet -
Oletimer;
The characterization made that Palin prohibits guns is false.
It is against Federal Law to have a gun at school. All that is being done is the speaker—any speaker—at a school is making the requirement that Federal Law be followed.
This passage is especially mendacious:
Her staff enforced what the local press called “tight security.” Despite a Texas law that forbids the banning of concealed handguns held by Texas permit-holders in public venues, all members of the audience had to bring a photo ID, pass through metal detectors, and anyone who tried to bring in a weapon, permit or not, was subject to arrest.
It is currently against Texas Law for CCL holders to take thier weapons onto College Campii, and as mentioned above, it is against Federal Law to take them onto public school grounds. There has been a bill introduced in the Lege to allow CCL holders to take thier weapons onto College Campii, but that will not affect the prohibition on weapons in public schools.
The man is either ignorant of the law, or intentionally lying to make Palin look bad to Conservatives who hold Gun Rights dear. Since the source labels itself as “The Progessive Voice”, I’d lean towards intentional lying.
How do I know this?
Because for 10 years I was involved with TPWD’s Living History Program making presentations at Public Schools all across Texas. One might imagine how difficult it is to interpret the Second World War, the Indian Wars, and the Spanish American War without the display of firearms, but they wwere an integral part of each program. In each and every case, we had to get a special waiver to bring weapons onto the property, and then were restricted to football fields or other outdoor facilities and areas. Even as a State Museum Volunteers who had passed background checks (done by the Secret Service when we hosted an event at the Nimitz Museum that featured President and then Governor Bush) we were never allowed to take them inside the buildings.
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Oletimer;
The characterization made that Palin prohibits guns is false.
It is against Federal Law to have a gun at school. All that is being done is the speaker—any speaker—at a school is making the requirement that Federal Law be followed.
This passage is especially mendacious:Her staff enforced what the local press called “tight security.” Despite a Texas law that forbids the banning of concealed handguns held by Texas permit-holders in public venues, all members of the audience had to bring a photo ID, pass through metal detectors, and anyone who tried to bring in a weapon, permit or not, was subject to arrest.
It is currently against Texas Law for CCL holders to take thier weapons onto College Campii, and as mentioned above, it is against Federal Law to take them onto public school grounds. There has been a bill introduced in the Lege to allow CCL holders to take thier weapons onto College Campii, but that will not affect the prohibition on weapons in public schools.
The man is either ignorant of the law, or intentionally lying to make Palin look bad to Conservatives who hold Gun Rights dear. Since the source labels itself as “The Progessive Voice”, I’d lean towards intentional lying.
How do I know this?
Because for 10 years I was involved with TPWD’s Living History Program making presentations at Public Schools all across Texas. One might imagine how difficult it is to interpret the Second World War, the Indian Wars, and the Spanish American War without the display of firearms, but they wwere an integral part of each program. In each and every case, we had to get a special waiver to bring weapons onto the property, and then were restricted to football fields or other outdoor facilities and areas. Even as a State Museum Volunteers who had passed background checks (done by the Secret Service when we hosted an event at the Nimitz Museum that featured President and then Governor Bush) we were never allowed to take them inside the buildings. -
#26 Hamous
I agree about private schools, BUT
and and even Palin indicated she would do so at all future engagements.
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#26 Hamous
I agree about private schools, BUTand and even Palin indicated she would do so at all future engagements.
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#19 Geezer:
From your forwarded e-mail:It’s very important to have an independent judiciary. Make sure your judges can’t be fired by government officials who don’t like their rulings. You don’t have a free country unless the law applies to everybody, especially government officials.
Here I must depart from the overall wisdom of the author(s). You must be able to remove a judge who chooses to legislate from the bench (invent law from thin air) as opposed to interpreting the law WHICH DOES NOT CHANGE and seeing how it applies to the various cases that come before the bench; which, obviously, are all different usually both in nature and scope.
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#19 Geezer:
From your forwarded e-mail:It’s very important to have an independent judiciary. Make sure your judges can’t be fired by government officials who don’t like their rulings. You don’t have a free country unless the law applies to everybody, especially government officials.
Here I must depart from the overall wisdom of the author(s). You must be able to remove a judge who chooses to legislate from the bench (invent law from thin air) as opposed to interpreting the law WHICH DOES NOT CHANGE and seeing how it applies to the various cases that come before the bench; which, obviously, are all different usually both in nature and scope.
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Small anecdote to illustrate the above comment.
In 1998, I participated in the Centerville 4th of July Parade along with six other volunteers dressed in Spanish American War uniforms and carrying period weapons as part of an effort to promote a 100th Anniversary event at the Texas State Railroad. Our group had to form separately in an office parking lot and join the parade as it passed us. That was because the parade started in the High School parking lot and we did not have a waiver.
I also learned that in a town as small as Centerville, one of the features of the parade is the new truck for the local septic sucking service.
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Small anecdote to illustrate the above comment.
In 1998, I participated in the Centerville 4th of July Parade along with six other volunteers dressed in Spanish American War uniforms and carrying period weapons as part of an effort to promote a 100th Anniversary event at the Texas State Railroad. Our group had to form separately in an office parking lot and join the parade as it passed us. That was because the parade started in the High School parking lot and we did not have a waiver.
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#30 Bonecrusher
You must be able to remove a judge who chooses to legislate from the bench
You can, it’s called impeachment as opposed to firing for personal reasons.
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#30 Bonecrusher
You must be able to remove a judge who chooses to legislate from the bench
You can, it’s called impeachment as opposed to firing for personal reasons.
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Moving on to other observations
They captured Arab radical cleric Jaziri trying to slip into the U.S. from Mexico in the trunk of a BMW.
After Big Sis ascertained he wasn’t a Mexican, she welcomed him to America. -
Moving on to other observations
They captured Arab radical cleric Jaziri trying to slip into the U.S. from Mexico in the trunk of a BMW.
After Big Sis ascertained he wasn’t a Mexican, she welcomed him to America. -
#26 Hamous
I agree about private schools, BUT
and and even Palin indicated she would do so at all future engagements.
And all we have is the word of somebody who has already lied to us in the post that such is the case.
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#26 Hamous
I agree about private schools, BUTand and even Palin indicated she would do so at all future engagements.
And all we have is the word of somebody who has already lied to us in the post that such is the case.
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Obama urged Egypt protesters to be calm Friday, then urged Egypt’s army to show restraint. He was clearly concerned.
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#34 Sarge
And all we have is the word of somebody who has already lied to us in the post that such is the case.
And at the present we don’t know one way or the other.
But as big a gun rights enthusiast as she is, sure doesn’t sound like her.
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#34 Sarge
And all we have is the word of somebody who has already lied to us in the post that such is the case.
And at the present we don’t know one way or the other.
But as big a gun rights enthusiast as she is, sure doesn’t sound like her. -
I’m finally getting my act together. I ran hard and long yesterday, functioning pretty much on adrenaline for most of the day. I had a meeting last night, and I could feel the relief and relaxation as my body started slowing down as the adrenaline left my system. I won’t say I almost fell asleep in the meeting, but it was tempting!
I got home and relaxed for a few minutes. Handsome had brought home some red velvet cake from work, as a thank you for me helping him get his temporary license in the morning. BTW, if anyone finds his wallet, we would really appreciate your returning it to him. I watched some Stargate Atlantis and ate some cake before heading upstairs to do one final task for Hubby. I got to bed around 1:30 in the morning.
Hubby didn’t wake me up this morning (as if he could). I got up, checked my garden, ate some breakfast, prayed and read a little, and am now beginning my day. I appreciate that my post generated some conversation this morning. It’s interesting, and a little scary sometimes, to see how everyone here thinks. 😉
And Hammy, I loved your list. I needed the laugh.
Now, on to everything I didn’t get done yesterday, the stuff I had schedule for today, and my 2″ high pile of mail….
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I’m finally getting my act together. I ran hard and long yesterday, functioning pretty much on adrenaline for most of the day. I had a meeting last night, and I could feel the relief and relaxation as my body started slowing down as the adrenaline left my system. I won’t say I almost fell asleep in the meeting, but it was tempting!
I got home and relaxed for a few minutes. Handsome had brought home some red velvet cake from work, as a thank you for me helping him get his temporary license in the morning. BTW, if anyone finds his wallet, we would really appreciate your returning it to him. I watched some Stargate Atlantis and ate some cake before heading upstairs to do one final task for Hubby. I got to bed around 1:30 in the morning.
Hubby didn’t wake me up this morning (as if he could). I got up, checked my garden, ate some breakfast, prayed and read a little, and am now beginning my day. I appreciate that my post generated some conversation this morning. It’s interesting, and a little scary sometimes, to see how everyone here thinks. 😉
And Hammy, I loved your list. I needed the laugh.
Now, on to everything I didn’t get done yesterday, the stuff I had schedule for today, and my 2″ high pile of mail…. -
Oh;
And the relevant passage:
(2)(A) It shall be unlawful for any individual knowingly to
possess a firearm that has moved in or that otherwise affects
interstate or foreign commerce at a place that the individual
knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is a school zone.
(B) Subparagraph (A) does not apply to the possession of a
firearm –
(i) on private property not part of school grounds;
(ii) if the individual possessing the firearm is licensed to do
so by the State in which the school zone is located or a
political subdivision of the State, and the law of the State or
political subdivision requires that, before an individual obtains
such a license, the law enforcement authorities of the State or
political subdivision verify that the individual is qualified
under law to receive the license;
(iii) that is –
(I) not loaded; and
(II) in a locked container, or a locked firearms rack that is
on a motor vehicle;
(iv) by an individual for use in a program approved by a school
in the school zone;
(v) by an individual in accordance with a contract entered into
between a school in the school zone and the individual or an
employer of the individual;
(vi) by a law enforcement officer acting in his or her official
capacity; or
(vii) that is unloaded and is possessed by an individual while
traversing school premises for the purpose of gaining access to
public or private lands open to hunting, if the entry on school
premises is authorized by school authorities.
(3)(A) Except as provided in subparagraph (B), it shall be
unlawful for any person, knowingly or with reckless disregard for
the safety of another, to discharge or attempt to discharge a
firearm that has moved in or that otherwise affects interstate or
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Oh;
Here is the Federal Law.
And the relevant passage:(2)(A) It shall be unlawful for any individual knowingly to
possess a firearm that has moved in or that otherwise affects
interstate or foreign commerce at a place that the individual
knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is a school zone.
(B) Subparagraph (A) does not apply to the possession of a
firearm –
(i) on private property not part of school grounds;
(ii) if the individual possessing the firearm is licensed to do
so by the State in which the school zone is located or a
political subdivision of the State, and the law of the State or
political subdivision requires that, before an individual obtains
such a license, the law enforcement authorities of the State or
political subdivision verify that the individual is qualified
under law to receive the license;
(iii) that is –
(I) not loaded; and
(II) in a locked container, or a locked firearms rack that is
on a motor vehicle;
(iv) by an individual for use in a program approved by a school
in the school zone;
(v) by an individual in accordance with a contract entered into
between a school in the school zone and the individual or an
employer of the individual;
(vi) by a law enforcement officer acting in his or her official
capacity; or
(vii) that is unloaded and is possessed by an individual while
traversing school premises for the purpose of gaining access to
public or private lands open to hunting, if the entry on school
premises is authorized by school authorities.
(3)(A) Except as provided in subparagraph (B), it shall be
unlawful for any person, knowingly or with reckless disregard for
the safety of another, to discharge or attempt to discharge a
firearm that has moved in or that otherwise affects interstate or
foreign commerce at a place that the person knows is a school zone. -
#36 Oletimer
But as someone who’s had multiple death threats thrown at her so publicly via Twitter and such, I can certainly understand her desire to protect herself. While an occasional conservative might lose self-control and exercise violence against someone, it seems that libs are much more prone to crossing that line.
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#36 Oletimer
But as someone who’s had multiple death threats thrown at her so publicly via Twitter and such, I can certainly understand her desire to protect herself. While an occasional conservative might lose self-control and exercise violence against someone, it seems that libs are much more prone to crossing that line. -
#34 Sarge
And all we have is the word of somebody who has already lied to us in the post that such is the case.
And at the present we don’t know one way or the other.
But as big a gun rights enthusiast as she is, sure doesn’t sound like her.
Sorry dude,
But a source that claims its a progressive voice that spews out a whole raft of absolutely false information doesn’t make me doubt one iota that anything that’s stated in that article, other than the fact that she showed up to speak at a school.
I also note that this is where the “information” that she’s going to prohibit guns at future events doesn’t come from her staff at all:
I did take the opportunity to call the Lubbock Police Department on Tuesday, and was advised that no one questioned the forbidding of guns by Palin’s staff, and Palin indicated she would do so at all future engagements. Apparently neither Texas law nor Second Amendment rights apply in the vicinity of the self-proclaimed “mama grizzly.”
The author claims it comes from the Lubbock PD, something we can’t confirm because, once again, all we have is the word of somebody who has already lied to us.
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#34 Sarge
And all we have is the word of somebody who has already lied to us in the post that such is the case.
And at the present we don’t know one way or the other.
But as big a gun rights enthusiast as she is, sure doesn’t sound like her.Sorry dude,
But a source that claims its a progressive voice that spews out a whole raft of absolutely false information doesn’t make me doubt one iota that anything that’s stated in that article, other than the fact that she showed up to speak at a school.
I also note that this is where the “information” that she’s going to prohibit guns at future events doesn’t come from her staff at all:I did take the opportunity to call the Lubbock Police Department on Tuesday, and was advised that no one questioned the forbidding of guns by Palin’s staff, and Palin indicated she would do so at all future engagements. Apparently neither Texas law nor Second Amendment rights apply in the vicinity of the self-proclaimed “mama grizzly.”
The author claims it comes from the Lubbock PD, something we can’t confirm because, once again, all we have is the word of somebody who has already lied to us.
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#32 OTL: What is required to impeach a sitting federal judge? Sam Kent, a Federal Judge in Galveston, was forced to resign due to serial aggressive sexual harassment, Alcee Hastings, a Fed Judge in Florida was impeached for bribery, yet I believe he sits as an elected member of congress today. I submit if inventing law from the bench and or ignoring the ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE WRITERS OF THE CONSTITUTION is not an impeachable offense then we, as a self proclaimed constitutionally based society, NEED TO GET OUR PRIORITIES STRAIGHTENED OUT. If our judges accept the fanciful notion that the Constitution is a living breathing document that magically changes with the times we no longer have rule of law.
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#32 OTL: What is required to impeach a sitting federal judge? Sam Kent, a Federal Judge in Galveston, was forced to resign due to serial aggressive sexual harassment, Alcee Hastings, a Fed Judge in Florida was impeached for bribery, yet I believe he sits as an elected member of congress today. I submit if inventing law from the bench and or ignoring the ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE WRITERS OF THE CONSTITUTION is not an impeachable offense then we, as a self proclaimed constitutionally based society, NEED TO GET OUR PRIORITIES STRAIGHTENED OUT. If our judges accept the fanciful notion that the Constitution is a living breathing document that magically changes with the times we no longer have rule of law.
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But as someone who’s had multiple death threats thrown at her so publicly via Twitter and such, I can certainly understand her desire to protect herself. While an occasional conservative might lose self-control and exercise violence against someone, it seems that libs are much more prone to crossing that line.
If one examines the first attacks made by the Left on Sara Palin, one will find that they were of a character designed to turn Conservatives, or atleast thier caricature of Conservatives, off.
Vis:The very first thing was the allegation that her youngest child was the actual child of her daughter (Trig Trutherism), then the actual pregnancy of her daughter, then that she was a bad mother who flew home to Alaska to give birth after her water broke in Dallas (another absolutely false allegation). They only started the “She’s a crazy wing nut” routine after Conservatives embarced her, and Christians welcomed her with the spirit of forgiveness and redemption that is so sorely misunderstood by the Left.
This “Palin is against gun rights” allegation by the Left is of the same sort of rhetoric.
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But as someone who’s had multiple death threats thrown at her so publicly via Twitter and such, I can certainly understand her desire to protect herself. While an occasional conservative might lose self-control and exercise violence against someone, it seems that libs are much more prone to crossing that line.
If one examines the first attacks made by the Left on Sara Palin, one will find that they were of a character designed to turn Conservatives, or atleast thier caricature of Conservatives, off.
Vis:
The very first thing was the allegation that her youngest child was the actual child of her daughter (Trig Trutherism), then the actual pregnancy of her daughter, then that she was a bad mother who flew home to Alaska to give birth after her water broke in Dallas (another absolutely false allegation). They only started the “She’s a crazy wing nut” routine after Conservatives embarced her, and Christians welcomed her with the spirit of forgiveness and redemption that is so sorely misunderstood by the Left.
This “Palin is against gun rights” allegation by the Left is of the same sort of rhetoric. -
#41 Bonecrusher
Agreed, 100%. As stated by someone with far more knowledge than I.
WASHINGTON — Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia says members of Congress need to get themselves a copy of the Federalist Papers – and make sure they read it
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#41 Bonecrusher
Agreed, 100%. As stated by someone with far more knowledge than I.WASHINGTON — Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia says members of Congress need to get themselves a copy of the Federalist Papers – and make sure they read it
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From the LCU handbook:
It is against federal law in some cases and against university policy in all
cases to be in possession or in any way involved with weapons on the
campus of Lubbock Christian University.So the policy was not unique to Palin’s engagement. Further, there is no reliable evidence that she is personally banning CCL holders from carrying at her events.
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From the LCU handbook:
It is against federal law in some cases and against university policy in all
cases to be in possession or in any way involved with weapons on the
campus of Lubbock Christian University.So the policy was not unique to Palin’s engagement. Further, there is no reliable evidence that she is personally banning CCL holders from carrying at her events.
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From the FDL Chuckleheads:
http://my.firedoglake.com/spocko/2011/01/24/guns-outlawed-at-palin-speaking-events/
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From the FDL Chuckleheads:
http://my.firedoglake.com/spocko/2011/01/24/guns-outlawed-at-palin-speaking-events/ -
Your tuesday morning George W Bush Update
/My first and last (I hope)
Under the heading of I tol ya he was not a conservativeGeorge W. Bush Frets About New ‘Nativism’
(AKA Final push for “immigration reform)
Evoking the “America first” policies that predated World War II, Bush said he fears that isolationism, nativism, and protectionism are creeping back into American life. “I’m a little concerned that we may be going through the same period,” Bush said at a Southern Methodist University forum recorded January 24.
(circumcised)
Bush pushed hard for comprehensive immigration reform in his second term, costing him standing in the Republican Party, where the initiative was assailed as amnesty. In the book he released last year and has been promoting, Decision Points, Bush labeled the failure of his immigration overhaul one of his presidency’s disappointments.To that I say…. speaking of which
George W. Bush: ‘I’m Done With Politics, GOP Fundraising And Appearing On TV’
And under the heading of I watched the train wreck so you would not have too.
Snooki hits the D.C. Auto Show, declares George W. Bush hot (if old)
BTW that is hotter than Obama
So my final farewell to Mr. Bushco as he is going to slip into Ex-President silence modeHey GWB!! Don’t let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya on your way out.
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Your tuesday morning George W Bush Update
/My first and last (I hope)
Under the heading of I tol ya he was not a conservativeGeorge W. Bush Frets About New ‘Nativism’
(AKA Final push for “immigration reform)
Evoking the “America first” policies that predated World War II, Bush said he fears that isolationism, nativism, and protectionism are creeping back into American life. “I’m a little concerned that we may be going through the same period,” Bush said at a Southern Methodist University forum recorded January 24.
(circumcised)
Bush pushed hard for comprehensive immigration reform in his second term, costing him standing in the Republican Party, where the initiative was assailed as amnesty. In the book he released last year and has been promoting, Decision Points, Bush labeled the failure of his immigration overhaul one of his presidency’s disappointments.To that I say…. speaking of which
George W. Bush: ‘I’m Done With Politics, GOP Fundraising And Appearing On TV’
And under the heading of I watched the train wreck so you would not have too.
Snooki hits the D.C. Auto Show, declares George W. Bush hot (if old)
BTW that is hotter than Obama
So my final farewell to Mr. Bushco as he is going to slip into Ex-President silence modeHey GWB!! Don’t let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya on your way out.
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Palin spoke at a city owned facility leased by the school.
http://lubbockonline.com/local-news/2011-01-24/palin-set-speak-today-fundraiserFor what it worth, bloggers claiming to be there say a no carry sign was posted per
http://law.onecle.com/texas/penal/30.06.00.htmlWhoever leased the place has a right to do that. If that is what happened I don’t see it as that big of a deal.
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Palin spoke at a city owned facility leased by the school.
http://lubbockonline.com/local-news/2011-01-24/palin-set-speak-today-fundraiser
For what it worth, bloggers claiming to be there say a no carry sign was posted per
http://law.onecle.com/texas/penal/30.06.00.html
Whoever leased the place has a right to do that. If that is what happened I don’t see it as that big of a deal. -
Good morning all. Batten down for the big chill to come tonight. Started out at a humid 68 at 5:30, wet pavement mostly from overnight fog and a few brief showers. All that changed by 6 when the first big whoosh blasted in with driving rain and wild gusts that pulled the proch banners off their anchorage and left them whipping in the wind, dangling by one hook. Rescued them and brought them inside.
Barn doors rattled, rain drummed on the barn roof, and closing and latching the only open window on the north side took some doing. Cameo appreciated having her stall less breezy so she could eat her hay in peace. Mara and Contessa across the aisle appreciated the closed window as well, though theirs, being on the south side, remained open. Checked the water buckets and topped them off, then opened the front doors enough to get out and wrestled the umbrella with one hand and closed the doors with the other. Pushed the people gate closed and made it up the path to the back porch without getting very wet or losing the umbrella. The home weather station said 41 with windchill 36. A cup of hot tea sure was welcome.
Game plan for dealing with the freezing temps is set, outdoor faucet covers at the ready, old sheets and frost cloth stacked up, garage space cleared and waiting for planters. Thermometer on the front proch just slipped to 37, but it’s open to the north, windchill now 31.
Must start carrying plants into the garage.Hang in there everybody.
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Good morning all. Batten down for the big chill to come tonight. Started out at a humid 68 at 5:30, wet pavement mostly from overnight fog and a few brief showers. All that changed by 6 when the first big whoosh blasted in with driving rain and wild gusts that pulled the proch banners off their anchorage and left them whipping in the wind, dangling by one hook. Rescued them and brought them inside.
Barn doors rattled, rain drummed on the barn roof, and closing and latching the only open window on the north side took some doing. Cameo appreciated having her stall less breezy so she could eat her hay in peace. Mara and Contessa across the aisle appreciated the closed window as well, though theirs, being on the south side, remained open. Checked the water buckets and topped them off, then opened the front doors enough to get out and wrestled the umbrella with one hand and closed the doors with the other. Pushed the people gate closed and made it up the path to the back porch without getting very wet or losing the umbrella. The home weather station said 41 with windchill 36. A cup of hot tea sure was welcome.
Game plan for dealing with the freezing temps is set, outdoor faucet covers at the ready, old sheets and frost cloth stacked up, garage space cleared and waiting for planters. Thermometer on the front proch just slipped to 37, but it’s open to the north, windchill now 31.
Must start carrying plants into the garage.
Hang in there everybody. -
House’s outdoor faucets covered with foam caps, small planters taken in the garage, rest of the barn windows closed, the mares at pasture for a while. In the wintry blast on the front porch it’s dropped to 35, windchill 29, 20 mph wind gusting to 34. Still overcast and looking like a snow sky. Another cup of hot tea looks great right now.
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House’s outdoor faucets covered with foam caps, small planters taken in the garage, rest of the barn windows closed, the mares at pasture for a while. In the wintry blast on the front porch it’s dropped to 35, windchill 29, 20 mph wind gusting to 34. Still overcast and looking like a snow sky. Another cup of hot tea looks great right now.
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A dead horse walks into a bar and orders a Long Island Iced Tea. The bartender says, “Why the long face?”
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A dead horse walks into a bar and orders a Long Island Iced Tea. The bartender says, “Why the long face?”
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41 Boney,
My High School Civics understanding of the Federal Court System is a little rusty, but as I understand it…if a Federal Judge or Federal Circuit Court “interprets”, “devines”, or just plain “guesses” the application of the law; then that ruling is subject to reversal by a higher court. I am told it has happened many times.
Article Two of the United States Constitution (Section 4) states that “The President, Vice President, and all other civil Officers of the United States shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors.” The House of Representatives has the sole power of impeaching, while the United States Senate has the sole power to try all impeachments
Being bone-headed (sorry), stupid, mistaken, and just plain old wrong does not rise to the level of High Crimes and Misdeanors. Maybe it should, but that will require an amendment to the Constitution. Careful though…It is my observation that most of us do not rise the the level of perfection and all of us have a tendency to be bone-headed (sorry again) and do stupid things at the time for what we thought were the best of reasons.
Simple
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41 Boney,
My High School Civics understanding of the Federal Court System is a little rusty, but as I understand it…if a Federal Judge or Federal Circuit Court “interprets”, “devines”, or just plain “guesses” the application of the law; then that ruling is subject to reversal by a higher court. I am told it has happened many times.Article Two of the United States Constitution (Section 4) states that “The President, Vice President, and all other civil Officers of the United States shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors.” The House of Representatives has the sole power of impeaching, while the United States Senate has the sole power to try all impeachments
Being bone-headed (sorry), stupid, mistaken, and just plain old wrong does not rise to the level of High Crimes and Misdeanors. Maybe it should, but that will require an amendment to the Constitution. Careful though…It is my observation that most of us do not rise the the level of perfection and all of us have a tendency to be bone-headed (sorry again) and do stupid things at the time for what we thought were the best of reasons.
Simple -
First it’s horses, now it’s cows:
Sylvester Byrd was arrested Sunday on an aggravated battery with a deadly weapon charge in connection with what could be considered an udderly unusual case.
The 36-year-old victim told Fort Pierce police he was talking with Byrd “about cows and other farm animals” in the backyard of an address in the 800 block of Texas Court when an argument began.
/snipByrd, however, told police he and his girlfriend were in the backyard. He said the victim came over and started disrespecting his girlfriend. Byrd said they argued and the victim grabbed his arm.
“He said in self defense he clawed (the victim) across the face, scratching him with his nails,” the affidavit states.
Byrd said that’s when the machete came out. He said he got the weapon because the victim is larger than he is. He said he chased the victim and fell before putting up the machete and hoofing it to a friend’s house. Byrd denied cutting the victim with the machete.
Byrd’s 68-year-old girlfriend told police the victim and Byrd “were talking about farm animals and milking cows.”
“She said Byrd stated how the cows were milked by their udders and (the victim) stated how they were milked by a machine,” the affidavit states. “She advised she basically ignored their conversation, but due to this discrepancy an argument broke out between (the victim) and Byrd.”
The girlfriend said Byrd got his machete after the apparent beef over cow milking and chased the victim.
Someone likes their puns. Someone else doesn’t know that machines can get hooked up to udders. Basically we had the ignorant arguing over something he knew little or nothing about.
And how much you wanna bet some lib is going to claim a couple of redneck Texans were involved?
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First it’s horses, now it’s cows:
Sylvester Byrd was arrested Sunday on an aggravated battery with a deadly weapon charge in connection with what could be considered an udderly unusual case.
The 36-year-old victim told Fort Pierce police he was talking with Byrd “about cows and other farm animals” in the backyard of an address in the 800 block of Texas Court when an argument began.
/snip
Byrd, however, told police he and his girlfriend were in the backyard. He said the victim came over and started disrespecting his girlfriend. Byrd said they argued and the victim grabbed his arm.
“He said in self defense he clawed (the victim) across the face, scratching him with his nails,” the affidavit states.
Byrd said that’s when the machete came out. He said he got the weapon because the victim is larger than he is. He said he chased the victim and fell before putting up the machete and hoofing it to a friend’s house. Byrd denied cutting the victim with the machete.
Byrd’s 68-year-old girlfriend told police the victim and Byrd “were talking about farm animals and milking cows.”
“She said Byrd stated how the cows were milked by their udders and (the victim) stated how they were milked by a machine,” the affidavit states. “She advised she basically ignored their conversation, but due to this discrepancy an argument broke out between (the victim) and Byrd.”
The girlfriend said Byrd got his machete after the apparent beef over cow milking and chased the victim.Someone likes their puns. Someone else doesn’t know that machines can get hooked up to udders. Basically we had the ignorant arguing over something he knew little or nothing about.
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Then again…Albert Einstein said that the Universe and Human Stupidity were infinite, although he was not so sure about the Universe.
Simple
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Then again…Albert Einstein said that the Universe and Human Stupidity were infinite, although he was not so sure about the Universe.
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And how much you wanna bet some lib is going to claim a couple of redneck Texans were involved?
Or some Okie will point out that it happened in Florida?
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And how much you wanna bet some lib is going to claim a couple of redneck Texans were involved?
Or some Okie will point out that it happened in Florida?
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#54 Hammy
Yabbut – it happened in the 800 block of TEXAS Court!
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#54 Hammy
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#19 OTL
You don’t have a free country unless the law applies to everybody, especially government officials.
Tell me again how Geithner and all those other tax cheats Obama hired were able to skate just by paying up once they were caught.
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#19 OTL
You don’t have a free country unless the law applies to everybody, especially government officials.
Tell me again how Geithner and all those other tax cheats Obama hired were able to skate just by paying up once they were caught.
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Citing the pro-democracy unrest in Egypt and Tunisia, Gov. Jerry Brown called it “unconscionable” that GOP legislators are vowing to block his attempt to ask voters to extend tax hikes to balance the budget.
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Governor Moonbeam is baaaack. California, you made your bed electing this guy again, now you’re stuck with him unless you can come up with grounds for impeachment–besides that he’s Governor Moonbeam. No bailouts for California.
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Governor Moonbeam is baaaack. California, you made your bed electing this guy again, now you’re stuck with him unless you can come up with grounds for impeachment–besides that he’s Governor Moonbeam. No bailouts for California.
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From an email:
On his 74th birthday, a man got a gift certificate from his wife. The certificate paid for a visit to a medicine man living on a nearby reservation who was rumored to have a wonderful cure for erectile dysfunction.
After being persuaded, he drove to the reservation, handed his ticket to the medicine man. The medicine man slowly, methodically, produced a potion, handed it to him, and with a grip on his shoulder, warned, ‘This is powerful medicine. It must be respected. You take only teaspoonful, and then say ‘1-2-3.’ When you do that, you will become more manly than you have ever been in your life, and you can perform as long as you want.”
The old man was encouraged. As he walked away, he turned and asked, “How do I stop the medicine from working?”
“Your partner must say ‘1-2-3-4,’” he responded, “but when she does, the medicine will not work again until next full moon.”
The old man was very eager to see if it worked so he went home, showered, shaved, took a spoonful of the medicine, and then invited his wife to join him in the bedroom. When she came in, he took off his clothes and said, “1-2-3!”
Immediately, he was the manliest of men.His wife was excited and began throwing off her clothes, and then she asked, “What was the 1-2-3 for?”
And that, boys and girls, is why we should never end our sentences with a preposition, because we could end up with a dangling participle.
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From an email:
On his 74th birthday, a man got a gift certificate from his wife. The certificate paid for a visit to a medicine man living on a nearby reservation who was rumored to have a wonderful cure for erectile dysfunction.
After being persuaded, he drove to the reservation, handed his ticket to the medicine man. The medicine man slowly, methodically, produced a potion, handed it to him, and with a grip on his shoulder, warned, ‘This is powerful medicine. It must be respected. You take only teaspoonful, and then say ‘1-2-3.’ When you do that, you will become more manly than you have ever been in your life, and you can perform as long as you want.”
The old man was encouraged. As he walked away, he turned and asked, “How do I stop the medicine from working?”
“Your partner must say ‘1-2-3-4,’” he responded, “but when she does, the medicine will not work again until next full moon.”
The old man was very eager to see if it worked so he went home, showered, shaved, took a spoonful of the medicine, and then invited his wife to join him in the bedroom. When she came in, he took off his clothes and said, “1-2-3!”
Immediately, he was the manliest of men.
His wife was excited and began throwing off her clothes, and then she asked, “What was the 1-2-3 for?”
And that, boys and girls, is why we should never end our sentences with a preposition, because we could end up with a dangling participle. -
#54 hamous
On some level, it’s kinda the default assumption. Besides, sometimes they’re too easy. 😆 -
#54 hamous
On some level, it’s kinda the default assumption. Besides, sometimes they’re too easy. 😆 -
#59 crazy aunt
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#59 crazy aunt
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Somebody call Al Gore.
The global warming is broke again.
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Somebody call Al Gore.
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#59 And that, boys and girls, is why we should never end our sentences with a preposition, because we could end up with a dangling participle. 😀
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#59 And that, boys and girls, is why we should never end our sentences with a preposition, because we could end up with a dangling participle. 😀
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Tea Party favorite Sharron Angle of Nevada descended upon the movie premiere of a conservative Christian movie in Johnston [Iowa] tonight, and she wouldn’t say that she was running for president.
But she wouldn’t say that she wasn’t.
“I’ll just say I have lots of options for the future, and I’m investigating all my options,” Angle said before a couple hundred people sat down to watch the premiere of “The Genesis Code,” a $5 million film that aims to present a controversial view on religious freedom and on the balancing act between faith and science.
I’m sure Sarah Palin is shaking in her boots.
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Tea Party favorite Sharron Angle of Nevada descended upon the movie premiere of a conservative Christian movie in Johnston [Iowa] tonight, and she wouldn’t say that she was running for president.
But she wouldn’t say that she wasn’t.
“I’ll just say I have lots of options for the future, and I’m investigating all my options,” Angle said before a couple hundred people sat down to watch the premiere of “The Genesis Code,” a $5 million film that aims to present a controversial view on religious freedom and on the balancing act between faith and science.I’m sure Sarah Palin is shaking in her boots.
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#61 Hey Doc! Sometimes I feel like a tepee and sometimes I feel like a wigwam. What’s wrong with me?
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#61 Hey Doc! Sometimes I feel like a tepee and sometimes I feel like a wigwam. What’s wrong with me?
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You’ve got some sort of personality disorder related to spending too much time in the Sunshine State. There’s little hope for you , really.
Either that or you’re too tense.
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You’ve got some sort of personality disorder related to spending too much time in the Sunshine State. There’s little hope for you , really.
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The Hoss sez he won’t run for a sixth term, and will step down in September at the end of his current term.
I’m thinking he’s a little unclear on the concept of “get lost”.
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The Hoss sez he won’t run for a sixth term, and will step down in September at the end of his current term.
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Days until we see this video on the MSM: 1….2….3….4….5…..6….7…
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It’s not just Acorn anymore.
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Does congress have nothing better to do than waste time on this meaningless piece of feel good legislation?
Reaffirming “In God We Trust” as the official motto of the United States and supporting and encouraging the public display of the national motto in all public buildings, public schools, and other government institutions.
Cosponsors include:
Rodney Alexander [R-LA]
Spencer Bachus [R-AL]
Marsha Blackburn [R-TN]
Paul Broun [R-GA]
Michael Burgess [R-TX]
Jason Chaffetz [R-UT]
Mike Coffman [R-CO]
Michael Conaway [R-TX]
Geoff Davis [R-KY]
Bill Flores [R-TX]
Scott Garrett [R-NJ]
John Gingrey [R-GA]
Walter Jones [R-NC]
John Kline [R-MN]
James Lankford [R-OK]
Daniel Lipinski [D-IL]
Gary Miller [R-CA]
Mike Pence [R-IN]
Nick Rahall [D-WV]
Phil Roe [R-TN]
Mike Ross [D-AR]
William Shuster [R-PA]
Addison Wilson [R-SC]
Frank Wolf [R-VA]E Pluribus Unum was the official motto until 1956. How do self described “originalists” feel about that?
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Does congress have nothing better to do than waste time on this meaningless piece of feel good legislation?
Reaffirming “In God We Trust” as the official motto of the United States and supporting and encouraging the public display of the national motto in all public buildings, public schools, and other government institutions.
Cosponsors include:
Rodney Alexander [R-LA]
Spencer Bachus [R-AL]
Marsha Blackburn [R-TN]
Paul Broun [R-GA]
Michael Burgess [R-TX]
Jason Chaffetz [R-UT]
Mike Coffman [R-CO]
Michael Conaway [R-TX]
Geoff Davis [R-KY]
Bill Flores [R-TX]
Scott Garrett [R-NJ]
John Gingrey [R-GA]
Walter Jones [R-NC]
John Kline [R-MN]
James Lankford [R-OK]
Daniel Lipinski [D-IL]
Gary Miller [R-CA]
Mike Pence [R-IN]
Nick Rahall [D-WV]
Phil Roe [R-TN]
Mike Ross [D-AR]
William Shuster [R-PA]
Addison Wilson [R-SC]
Frank Wolf [R-VA]
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Despite the efforts of certain agents provacatuer to get us to bleieve otherwise, it looks like Congress is doing the work we elected them to do lately.
Washington (CNN) – Senate leaders from both political parties have agreed to hold a vote on legislation repealing President Barack Obama’s health care overhaul – a top priority of GOP congressional leaders.
The vote will likely be held either Tuesday or Wednesday.
Its very likley a bill to repeal the recently found unconstitutional Obamacare Law will be on Barry’s desk by the end of February.
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Despite the efforts of certain agents provacatuer to get us to bleieve otherwise, it looks like Congress is doing the work we elected them to do lately.
Washington (CNN) – Senate leaders from both political parties have agreed to hold a vote on legislation repealing President Barack Obama’s health care overhaul – a top priority of GOP congressional leaders.
The vote will likely be held either Tuesday or Wednesday.Its very likley a bill to repeal the recently found unconstitutional Obamacare Law will be on Barry’s desk by the end of February.
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#51 Simple:
A high crime and/or misdemeanor is ANYTHING 50% +1 Vote in the House and 67 votes in the senate say it is. My contention (gripe) is that we (reasonable conservatives) have been beat down for so long that we dare not say that the emperor is nekkid. There has been a concerted effort over the last 40 years or so to promote the notion that the constitution is a living breathing document, instead of a set of restrictions n the Federal govt. The first big power usurpation took place with Marbury v Madison and we get the confusion that only the judge can know what the law means (interprets) instead of the law being clear and the judge determines how it fits with the varied cases that come before him. This is a critical distinction, if you go with the former you no longer have the rule of law – you have rule of whim of the judge on a particular day. If you go with the latter, the judge really has to jump through hoops and other legal/mental gymnastics to advance his agenda instead of advancing the clear intent of the law and generally speaking rule of law prevails. Guess which side I am on?? -
#51 Simple:
A high crime and/or misdemeanor is ANYTHING 50% +1 Vote in the House and 67 votes in the senate say it is. My contention (gripe) is that we (reasonable conservatives) have been beat down for so long that we dare not say that the emperor is nekkid. There has been a concerted effort over the last 40 years or so to promote the notion that the constitution is a living breathing document, instead of a set of restrictions n the Federal govt. The first big power usurpation took place with Marbury v Madison and we get the confusion that only the judge can know what the law means (interprets) instead of the law being clear and the judge determines how it fits with the varied cases that come before him. This is a critical distinction, if you go with the former you no longer have the rule of law – you have rule of whim of the judge on a particular day. If you go with the latter, the judge really has to jump through hoops and other legal/mental gymnastics to advance his agenda instead of advancing the clear intent of the law and generally speaking rule of law prevails. Guess which side I am on?? -
I’m all for rewarding ballzy heroes, but maybe this is going too far.
A Gurkha soldier, who fought 40 train robbers, to be felicitated in the Republic Day of India
Oh wait.
I read that wrong.
Never mind.
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I’m all for rewarding ballzy heroes, but maybe this is going too far.
A Gurkha soldier, who fought 40 train robbers, to be felicitated in the Republic Day of India
Oh wait.
I read that wrong.
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Oh wait.
I read that wrong.
Never mind.
Speeeeeeeeew
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Oh wait.
I read that wrong.
Never mind.Speeeeeeeeew
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Further to my #72 Above, THE DOCUMENT says that federal judges shall serve lifetime appointments while in good behavior. Too many in our govt have forgotten the italicized portion.. If refusing to administer the Constitution AS WRITTEN AND INTENDED does not constitute “bad behavior” then what does?
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Further to my #72 Above, THE DOCUMENT says that federal judges shall serve lifetime appointments while in good behavior. Too many in our govt have forgotten the italicized portion.. If refusing to administer the Constitution AS WRITTEN AND INTENDED does not constitute “bad behavior” then what does?
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Rachel Maddow Bob42 and gets punked.
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Rachel Maddow Bob42 and gets punked.
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72 Boney,
I am vaguely aware of the concept of strict interpretation of the Constitution. I am also aware that at different times the Executive and Legislative branches under BOTH parties have liberally interpreted the Constitution when it met their needs.
I suspect that the fights between the different branches are just what the framers had in mind.
When you have the Legislative Branch dismissing judges when they don’t like the rulings, then you might as well close down the courts because they will be controlled by the Executive and Legislative branches.
Justice and Democracy are a lot like making sausage. A pretty revolting process to witness, but in the end a product that is more or less appealing.
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I am pleased that we have not had to turn on the heat yet. Our insulation in our well-insulated house is well worth it. I could probably wait until 10:00 or so to turn it on, but Hubby seems to get cold easily these days.
It used to be the other way around.
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I am pleased that we have not had to turn on the heat yet. Our insulation in our well-insulated house is well worth it. I could probably wait until 10:00 or so to turn it on, but Hubby seems to get cold easily these days.
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Bob42
RE:Does congress have nothing better to do……..
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E Pluribus Unum was the official motto until 1956. How do self described “originalists” feel about that?
(circumcised)There was an individual that frequented the hallowed halls of LST that enjoyed tweaking folks with some inane argument about whether the Texas flag could be higher than the US flag or some crappola like that.
As moderator, handyman and all round nice guy (now retired) of that esteemed project I never lost my since of wonder at the amount of people that got their knickers in a twist over that asinine argument. I quietly read every line of the back and forth and never once replied or got involved directly.
In the spirit of the original premise of horse beating that Tedtam eluded too I will take this opportunity to respond to your question. I do this because I feel like you and I have a fairly decent relationship built on semi-mutual respect and trust. 😉
I consider myself an originalist and to answer your question(s) I would ask you a question.
1. Yes
2. WHO CARES.
/sheesh 🙂Ahhhhhhh that feels better. I have wanted to do that for a long time.
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Bob42
RE:Does congress have nothing better to do……..
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E Pluribus Unum was the official motto until 1956. How do self described “originalists” feel about that?
(circumcised)There was an individual that frequented the hallowed halls of LST that enjoyed tweaking folks with some inane argument about whether the Texas flag could be higher than the US flag or some crappola like that.
As moderator, handyman and all round nice guy (now retired) of that esteemed project I never lost my since of wonder at the amount of people that got their knickers in a twist over that asinine argument. I quietly read every line of the back and forth and never once replied or got involved directly.
In the spirit of the original premise of horse beating that Tedtam eluded too I will take this opportunity to respond to your question. I do this because I feel like you and I have a fairly decent relationship built on semi-mutual respect and trust. 😉
I consider myself an originalist and to answer your question(s) I would ask you a question.
1. Yes
2. WHO CARES.
/sheesh 🙂
Ahhhhhhh that feels better. I have wanted to do that for a long time.
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TBO – arrogance unchecked.
I can only imagine the coverage had this been Booooooooooooooooooooooossshhhh!
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TBO – arrogance unchecked.
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One for both the cat haters and the cat lovers!
The Queen takes care of ALL of her minions!
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One for both the cat haters and the cat lovers!
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Ummmm! You wrote G O D On the wall! I’m gonna tay-ulll!!!!!
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Ummmm! You wrote G O D On the wall! I’m gonna tay-ulll!!!!!
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I am in receipt of a petition (signed with paw-prints) by all three cats, demanding the immediate preparation and presentation of a litter box, and threatening dire consequences if their demands are not met in a timely fashion.
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I am in receipt of a petition (signed with paw-prints) by all three cats, demanding the immediate preparation and presentation of a litter box, and threatening dire consequences if their demands are not met in a timely fashion.
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I was working at home today (my company laptop on the breakfast room table, wireless to home router, VPN to company network) when I heard a loud scary noise from the kitchen cabinets. It sounded like a big mouse’s scrabbling feet in a high cabinet up over the countertop. I was debating whether to fetch the broom when suddenly one of the cabinet doors flew open and my big fluffy cat Travis jumped out. I have no idea how he got in there without attracting my notice.
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I was working at home today (my company laptop on the breakfast room table, wireless to home router, VPN to company network) when I heard a loud scary noise from the kitchen cabinets. It sounded like a big mouse’s scrabbling feet in a high cabinet up over the countertop. I was debating whether to fetch the broom when suddenly one of the cabinet doors flew open and my big fluffy cat Travis jumped out. I have no idea how he got in there without attracting my notice.
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I just saw a most disturbing commercial. It was for Beyaz, a birth control pill, and it showed several women in a boutique. On the way in, a stork tries to get one of them to take a package it was holding in its beak, and the woman smiled and waved the baby away. Then she and some other women were in the boutique, shopping for things like a trip to Paris and a new house. The last shot of of the women is them smiling, driving away in a car with their new purchases.
I guess children are only to be considered things that get in the way of things we want to buy. This message appeals to the most selfish part of ourselves.
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I just saw a most disturbing commercial. It was for Beyaz, a birth control pill, and it showed several women in a boutique. On the way in, a stork tries to get one of them to take a package it was holding in its beak, and the woman smiled and waved the baby away. Then she and some other women were in the boutique, shopping for things like a trip to Paris and a new house. The last shot of of the women is them smiling, driving away in a car with their new purchases.
I guess children are only to be considered things that get in the way of things we want to buy. This message appeals to the most selfish part of ourselves. -
Oletimer #19;
Make sure your judges can’t be fired by government officials who don’t like their rulings.
I emphatically disagree with that.
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Oletimer #19;
Make sure your judges can’t be fired by government officials who don’t like their rulings.
I emphatically disagree with that.
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E Pluribus Unum was the official motto until 1956. How do self described “originalists” feel about that?
I feel very good about it. Are you saying we’re too busy to rethink our trust in God, bob?
HistoryOne possible origin of In God We Trust is the final stanza of The Star-Spangled Banner. Written in 1814 by Francis Scott Key (and later adopted as the U.S. national anthem), the song contains an early reference to a variation of the phrase: “…And this be our motto: ‘In God is our trust’.”[3]
It was first used as a motto on coinage on the 1864 two-cent coin, followed in 1866 by the 5 cent nickel (1866–1883), quarter dollar, half dollar, silver dollar and gold dollars.[1][4] A 1865 law allowed the motto to be used on coins.[5] The use of the motto was permitted, but not required, by an 1873 law. While several laws come into play, the act of May 18, 1908,[6] is most often cited as requiring the motto (even though the cent and nickel were excluded from that law, and the nickel did not have the motto added until 1938). Since 1938, all coins have borne the motto.
On July 11, 1955, just one year after the phrase “under God” was incorporated into the Pledge of Allegiance,[7], the U.S. Congress enacted Public Law 84-140, which required the motto on all coins and currency. The law was approved by President Eisenhower on July 30, 1956, and the motto was progressively added to paper money over a period from 1957 to 1966.[1]
In 1956 the phrase was legally adopted as the United States’ national motto by a law passed by the 84th United States Congress.(Public Law 84-851)”[8], and the United States Code at 36 U.S.C. § 302, now states: “‘In God we trust’ is the national motto.”
Don’t you have anything better to do than to be the self-annointed holy watchdog against conservatism?
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E Pluribus Unum was the official motto until 1956. How do self described “originalists” feel about that?
I feel very good about it. Are you saying we’re too busy to rethink our trust in God, bob?
HistoryOne possible origin of In God We Trust is the final stanza of The Star-Spangled Banner. Written in 1814 by Francis Scott Key (and later adopted as the U.S. national anthem), the song contains an early reference to a variation of the phrase: “…And this be our motto: ‘In God is our trust’.”[3]
It was first used as a motto on coinage on the 1864 two-cent coin, followed in 1866 by the 5 cent nickel (1866–1883), quarter dollar, half dollar, silver dollar and gold dollars.[1][4] A 1865 law allowed the motto to be used on coins.[5] The use of the motto was permitted, but not required, by an 1873 law. While several laws come into play, the act of May 18, 1908,[6] is most often cited as requiring the motto (even though the cent and nickel were excluded from that law, and the nickel did not have the motto added until 1938). Since 1938, all coins have borne the motto.
On July 11, 1955, just one year after the phrase “under God” was incorporated into the Pledge of Allegiance,[7], the U.S. Congress enacted Public Law 84-140, which required the motto on all coins and currency. The law was approved by President Eisenhower on July 30, 1956, and the motto was progressively added to paper money over a period from 1957 to 1966.[1]
In 1956 the phrase was legally adopted as the United States’ national motto by a law passed by the 84th United States Congress.(Public Law 84-851)”[8], and the United States Code at 36 U.S.C. § 302, now states: “‘In God we trust’ is the national motto.”LINK
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Squawk #79;
The Texas flag is representative ofthe greatest nation in the world which happens to reside in the United States. 😉
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Squawk #79;
The Texas flag is representative ofthe greatest nation in the world which happens to reside in the United States. 😉 -
(Updated) Vid Shows Planned Parenthood Advising Pretend Pimp About Underage Sex Slaves
If the content wasn’t so horrific it would be comical that another organization would fall for this type of sting operation.
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(Updated) Vid Shows Planned Parenthood Advising Pretend Pimp About Underage Sex Slaves
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Well, it’s Ground Hog Day. Let the celebrations begin.
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Well, it’s Ground Hog Day. Let the celebrations begin.
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#88 Darren, if you want to live in a theocracy, move to Saudi Arabia or Iran.
Don’t you have anything better to do than to be the self-annointed holy watchdog against conservatism?
There’s a huge difference between conservatism and dominionism. The founding fathers of this exceptional form of government recognized that fact.
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#88 Darren, if you want to live in a theocracy, move to Saudi Arabia or Iran.
Don’t you have anything better to do than to be the self-annointed holy watchdog against conservatism?
There’s a huge difference between conservatism and dominionism. The founding fathers of this exceptional form of government recognized that fact.
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