Tuesday Open Comments

Okay, I admit it – I was assigned some office work in junior high and was able to sneak a peek at my testing file when the counselor wasn’t looking. Fortunately for me, the scores didn’t indicate that I was a moron (which is probably why I can never vote Democrat, but I digress.) In fact, my IQ score was higher than “normal,” whatever “normal’ is. But again, I digress. The point is I am trying to make is that we all have a weakness, relative though it may be, and mine is math. In fact, when my not-as-yet-royal status as Queen  IS acknowledged, I shall have a roomful of accountants with green shades and those funny little armbands to count all the tax money I shall be giving back to my minions, for I shall not trust myself to do any more bookkeeping! But, yet again, I digress.
If, perchance, I had seen these videos when in my mathematically formative years, I might have had a chance against some of my genius level classmates (yes, I peeked at some other scores while I had those few minutes alone with the files). While math is my weakest subject, the topic still fascinates me.
Like snakes:
Math snakes and curves
And then you study infinite elephants:
Infinite Elephants
Makes me see stars:
Stars
For me, it’s the mathematical equivalent of watching fire.  Now, go get some aspirin for that headache.


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  1. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Pole!

  2. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I flunked every math course I ever took.

    Now, I have a job doing circular and plane trigonometry with compound bevels in feet and inches.

  3. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I flunked every math course I ever took.
    Now, I have a job doing circular and plane trigonometry with compound bevels in feet and inches.

  4. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    I funked grammor, now I bloog.

  5. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    I funked grammor, now I bloog.

  6. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    My we’re early today. Very good 😉
    Mornin’ Gang It’s back to the salt mine.

  7. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    My we’re early today. Very good 😉
    Mornin’ Gang It’s back to the salt mine.

  8. duhmoose Avatar
    duhmoose

    As someone with a math degree and a love for numbers, I think most people’s problems with math can be traced back to a series of teachers early on who taught them that math is boring.

  9. duhmoose Avatar
    duhmoose

    As someone with a math degree and a love for numbers, I think most people’s problems with math can be traced back to a series of teachers early on who taught them that math is boring.

  10. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    More sexy math teachers!

  11. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    More sexy math teachers!

  12. El Gordo Avatar

    As Gottfried Liebnitz once said:

    “Music is the pleasure the human soul experiences from counting without being aware that it is counting.”

    Yes indeed.

  13. Dude42 Avatar

    As Gottfried Liebnitz once said:
    “Music is the pleasure the human soul experiences from counting without being aware that it is counting.”

    Yes indeed.

  14. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Well the Folks across the pond have figured it out, but not Pelosi, Reid and Obama.
    UK Government Plans Major Health Care Reform
    British government plans major health care overhaul, but critics say changes could cause chaos.

    Cameron said the reforms would cut red tape and improve treatment, but critics claim they will cause chaos and could lead to backdoor privatization of the much-criticized but widely popular National Health Service.

  15. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Well the Folks across the pond have figured it out, but not Pelosi, Reid and Obama.
    UK Government Plans Major Health Care Reform
    British government plans major health care overhaul, but critics say changes could cause chaos.

    Cameron said the reforms would cut red tape and improve treatment, but critics claim they will cause chaos and could lead to backdoor privatization of the much-criticized but widely popular National Health Service.

  16. meglettx Avatar

    Teddie, why are you putting stink on bean counters.

    I’ve never owned anything with “green shades” nor do I wear any kind of arm band.

    I resemble that kind of remark.

  17. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    Teddie, why are you putting stink on bean counters.
    I’ve never owned anything with “green shades” nor do I wear any kind of arm band.
    I resemble that kind of remark.

  18. meglettx Avatar

    Matter of fact, I think I’m officially offended.

    I may have to contact the Texas Hammer and press for the proper restitution for my pain and suffering.

  19. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    Matter of fact, I think I’m officially offended.
    I may have to contact the Texas Hammer and press for the proper restitution for my pain and suffering.

  20. meglettx Avatar

    ST, no offense, but I think an additional 10 would look “absolutely mahvelous” on you, dahlink.

  21. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    ST, no offense, but I think an additional 10 would look “absolutely mahvelous” on you, dahlink.

  22. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    I flunked typing in high school, but can now do about 40 words/min. The teacher said it was because I spent too much time “playing” with the insides of the machine. But I think she never forgave me for a little joke I pulled.

    I’d discovered that if I temporarily disabled the keyboard lock that engages when the power switch is turned off, then hits carriage return and shift, when the machine is turned back on the centrifugal clutch on the drive motor engages too soon. This results in not enough torque to execute both of the keys that were pressed, and the poor little machine makes a loud thunk-thunk-thunk, and literally bounces around on the desk. I sneaked in early for class and “fixed” every machine in the room.

    Ironically, my first job out of college was repairing typewriters.

  23. bob42 Avatar

    I flunked typing in high school, but can now do about 40 words/min. The teacher said it was because I spent too much time “playing” with the insides of the machine. But I think she never forgave me for a little joke I pulled.
    I’d discovered that if I temporarily disabled the keyboard lock that engages when the power switch is turned off, then hits carriage return and shift, when the machine is turned back on the centrifugal clutch on the drive motor engages too soon. This results in not enough torque to execute both of the keys that were pressed, and the poor little machine makes a loud thunk-thunk-thunk, and literally bounces around on the desk. I sneaked in early for class and “fixed” every machine in the room.
    Ironically, my first job out of college was repairing typewriters.

  24. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    G’Morning all

    Hate to start the morning on a serious note, but this is bone chilling scary. This woman needs to be put at the front of the line to be evaluated and involuntarily committed. She’s as far gone as the guy sitting in his camo’s on a park bench, rocking back and forth and saying “The voices told me to clean my guns.” I am normally serene enough to poke a jab or two at things that upset me and then get on with my life. I really believe she doesn’t know if she is washing or hanging out.

    BIOGRAPHY:
    Frances Fox Piven, honorary chair of the Democratic Socialists of America, political scientist, activist, and educator, was born in Calgary, Alberta in 1932. She came to the U.S. in 1933 and was naturalized in 1953, the same year she received her B.A. in City Planning from the University of Chicago. She also received her M.A. (1956) and Ph.D. (1962) from the University of Chicago. While married to Herman Piven, she had a daughter, Sarah.
    After a brief stint in New York as a city planner, she became a research associate at one of the country’s first anti-poverty agencies, Mobilization for Youth — a community-based service organization on New York City’s Lower East Side. At its height the organization coordinated more than fifty experimental programs designed to reduce poverty and crime. A 1965 paper entitled “Mobilizing the Poor: How It Can Be Done,” launched Piven and her co-author, Columbia University professor Richard Cloward, into an ongoing national conversation on the welfare state. Piven and Cloward’s collaborative work came to influence both careers, and the two eventually married. Their early work together provided a theoretical base for the
    National Welfare Rights Organization (NWRO), the first in a long line of grass-roots organizations in which Piven acted as founder, advisor, and/or planner. Piven taught in the Columbia University School of Social Work from 1966 to 1972. From 1972 to 1982 she was a professor of political science at Boston University. In 1982 she joined the Graduate Center, City University of New York. She has co-authored with Richard Cloward Regulating the Poor: The Functions of Public Welfare (1971); The Politics of Turmoil: Essays on Poverty, Race and the Urban Crisis (1974); Poor People’s Movements (1977); The New Class War (1982); The Mean Season (1987); Why Americans Don’t Vote (1988); and The Breaking of the American Social Compact (1997), as well as dozens of articles, both with Cloward and independently, in scholarly and popular publications.
    Over the course of her career, she has served on the boards of the ACLU and the Democratic Socialists of America, and has also held offices in several professional associations, including the American Political Science Association and the Society for the Study of Social Problems. In the 1960s, Piven worked with welfare-rights groups to expand benefits; in the eighties and nineties she campaigned relentlessly against welfare cutbacks. A veteran of the war on poverty and subsequent welfare-rights protests both in New York City and on the national stage, she has been instrumental in formulating the theoretical underpinnings of those movements. In Regulating the Poor , Piven and Cloward argued that any advances the poor have made throughout history were directly proportional to their ability to disrupt institutions that depend upon their cooperation. This academic commentary proved useful to George Wiley and the NWRO as well as a great many other community organizers and urban theorists. Since 1994, Piven has led academic and activist
    opposition to the “Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996,” (known as the Personal Responsibility Act), appearing in numerous public forums, from television’s Firing Line to the U.S. Senate, to the U.S. Senate.

    Frances Fox Piven: The Tea Party Is All About Sex

    Frances Fox Piven completely misses the point of the Tea Party. While most Tea Party people are in fact Social Conservatives, what really galvanized them into action was government over-reach. I have no problem with government, but when they become our bankers and/or car makers, then they have crossed the line. Power comes from the bottom up, not top down.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVwMMmhstQs&feature=player_embedded

  25. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    G’Morning all
    Hate to start the morning on a serious note, but this is bone chilling scary. This woman needs to be put at the front of the line to be evaluated and involuntarily committed. She’s as far gone as the guy sitting in his camo’s on a park bench, rocking back and forth and saying “The voices told me to clean my guns.” I am normally serene enough to poke a jab or two at things that upset me and then get on with my life. I really believe she doesn’t know if she is washing or hanging out.

    BIOGRAPHY:
    Frances Fox Piven, honorary chair of the Democratic Socialists of America, political scientist, activist, and educator, was born in Calgary, Alberta in 1932. She came to the U.S. in 1933 and was naturalized in 1953, the same year she received her B.A. in City Planning from the University of Chicago. She also received her M.A. (1956) and Ph.D. (1962) from the University of Chicago. While married to Herman Piven, she had a daughter, Sarah.
    After a brief stint in New York as a city planner, she became a research associate at one of the country’s first anti-poverty agencies, Mobilization for Youth — a community-based service organization on New York City’s Lower East Side. At its height the organization coordinated more than fifty experimental programs designed to reduce poverty and crime. A 1965 paper entitled “Mobilizing the Poor: How It Can Be Done,” launched Piven and her co-author, Columbia University professor Richard Cloward, into an ongoing national conversation on the welfare state. Piven and Cloward’s collaborative work came to influence both careers, and the two eventually married. Their early work together provided a theoretical base for the
    National Welfare Rights Organization (NWRO), the first in a long line of grass-roots organizations in which Piven acted as founder, advisor, and/or planner. Piven taught in the Columbia University School of Social Work from 1966 to 1972. From 1972 to 1982 she was a professor of political science at Boston University. In 1982 she joined the Graduate Center, City University of New York. She has co-authored with Richard Cloward Regulating the Poor: The Functions of Public Welfare (1971); The Politics of Turmoil: Essays on Poverty, Race and the Urban Crisis (1974); Poor People’s Movements (1977); The New Class War (1982); The Mean Season (1987); Why Americans Don’t Vote (1988); and The Breaking of the American Social Compact (1997), as well as dozens of articles, both with Cloward and independently, in scholarly and popular publications.
    Over the course of her career, she has served on the boards of the ACLU and the Democratic Socialists of America, and has also held offices in several professional associations, including the American Political Science Association and the Society for the Study of Social Problems. In the 1960s, Piven worked with welfare-rights groups to expand benefits; in the eighties and nineties she campaigned relentlessly against welfare cutbacks. A veteran of the war on poverty and subsequent welfare-rights protests both in New York City and on the national stage, she has been instrumental in formulating the theoretical underpinnings of those movements. In Regulating the Poor , Piven and Cloward argued that any advances the poor have made throughout history were directly proportional to their ability to disrupt institutions that depend upon their cooperation. This academic commentary proved useful to George Wiley and the NWRO as well as a great many other community organizers and urban theorists. Since 1994, Piven has led academic and activist
    opposition to the “Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996,” (known as the Personal Responsibility Act), appearing in numerous public forums, from television’s Firing Line to the U.S. Senate, to the U.S. Senate.

    Frances Fox Piven: The Tea Party Is All About Sex

    Frances Fox Piven completely misses the point of the Tea Party. While most Tea Party people are in fact Social Conservatives, what really galvanized them into action was government over-reach. I have no problem with government, but when they become our bankers and/or car makers, then they have crossed the line. Power comes from the bottom up, not top down.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVwMMmhstQs&feature=player_embedded

  26. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    O.K., the steam coming out of my ears has subsided. Back to normal. (Normal is subjective, your normal and mine may be different)

    President Hu Jintao said he’s always amazed whenever he sees the Washington Monument.

    He simply can’t understand how a city of three million people can get by with one watchtower.

  27. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    O.K., the steam coming out of my ears has subsided. Back to normal. (Normal is subjective, your normal and mine may be different)
    President Hu Jintao said he’s always amazed whenever he sees the Washington Monument.
    He simply can’t understand how a city of three million people can get by with one watchtower.

  28. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    After watching Tedtam’s videos I began to wonder, can you blow an apollonian gasket?

  29. squawkbox Avatar

    After watching Tedtam’s videos I began to wonder, can you blow an apollonian gasket?

  30. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Well, I see our Dear Leader is properly prostrating himself in front of their Dear Leader. Bowing to his master I suppose (and ours too, I’m afraid).
    http://www.drudgereport.com/

  31. El Gordo Avatar

    Well, I see our Dear Leader is properly prostrating himself in front of their Dear Leader. Bowing to his master I suppose (and ours too, I’m afraid).
    http://www.drudgereport.com/

  32. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #17 Sarge

    After watching Tedtam’s videos I began to wonder, can you blow an apollonian gasket?

    You can’t

    Three touching circles form a curvelinear triangle. A unique circle exists that can be inscribed into that triangle. This is the inner Soddy circle. If the enterior of the Soddy circle is removed from the triangle, what remains is the union of three smaller curvelinear triangles. Each of those has a Soddy circle, whose removal leaves the union of three even smaller triangles, and so on. This process can continue indefinitely, not unlike the Trema removal procedure in the construction of Sierpinski’s gasket. As in the linear case, the limit set, i.e., the set of points that remain from the orginal curvelinear triangle after an infinite number of steps is not empty. By analogy, it is called the Apollonian gasket, due to the obvious association with Apollonius’ circles. The Apollonian gasket is an example (the Mandelbrot set is another one) of a fractal that is not self-similar. It is impossible therefore in its case to substitute the similarity dimension for the fractal dimension. The latter has to be evaluated directly from the Hausdorff-Besecovitch definition.

  33. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #17 Sarge

    After watching Tedtam’s videos I began to wonder, can you blow an apollonian gasket?

    You can’t
    Three touching circles form a curvelinear triangle. A unique circle exists that can be inscribed into that triangle. This is the inner Soddy circle. If the enterior of the Soddy circle is removed from the triangle, what remains is the union of three smaller curvelinear triangles. Each of those has a Soddy circle, whose removal leaves the union of three even smaller triangles, and so on. This process can continue indefinitely, not unlike the Trema removal procedure in the construction of Sierpinski’s gasket. As in the linear case, the limit set, i.e., the set of points that remain from the orginal curvelinear triangle after an infinite number of steps is not empty. By analogy, it is called the Apollonian gasket, due to the obvious association with Apollonius’ circles. The Apollonian gasket is an example (the Mandelbrot set is another one) of a fractal that is not self-similar. It is impossible therefore in its case to substitute the similarity dimension for the fractal dimension. The latter has to be evaluated directly from the Hausdorff-Besecovitch definition.

  34. Tedtam Avatar

    #14 Bob42

    Ah, I was the classmate you loved to hate. Depending upon which scoring method used, I could type 55/85 wpm. I had a guy, Bobby, sitting next to me who said I was annoying, because while he was hunting and pecking his measly little 11 wpm (at year’s end), I was causing small breezes at my desk. I always finished my work early, and spent the remainder of my class time practicing my shorthand or ahem, FIXING typewriters and ribbons.

    Poor Bobby, I wonder whatever happened to him?

  35. Tedtam Avatar

    #14 Bob42
    Ah, I was the classmate you loved to hate. Depending upon which scoring method used, I could type 55/85 wpm. I had a guy, Bobby, sitting next to me who said I was annoying, because while he was hunting and pecking his measly little 11 wpm (at year’s end), I was causing small breezes at my desk. I always finished my work early, and spent the remainder of my class time practicing my shorthand or ahem, FIXING typewriters and ribbons.
    Poor Bobby, I wonder whatever happened to him?

  36. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    18 El Gordo says:
    January 18, 2011 at 9:11 am

    Well, I see our Dear Leader is properly prostrating himself in front of their Dear Leader. Bowing to his master I suppose (and ours too, I’m afraid).

    I feel that Obama truly doesn’t know that in eastern societies that bowing is subservient, the same as a dog laying on his back and licking the Alpha Male’s chin.

  37. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    18 El Gordo says:
    January 18, 2011 at 9:11 am
    Well, I see our Dear Leader is properly prostrating himself in front of their Dear Leader. Bowing to his master I suppose (and ours too, I’m afraid).

    I feel that Obama truly doesn’t know that in eastern societies that bowing is subservient, the same as a dog laying on his back and licking the Alpha Male’s chin.

  38. El Gordo Avatar

    I have no problem with government, but when they become our bankers and/or car makers, then they have crossed the line.

    Problem is, the intellectual push for a government with a more “activist” role has been in motion since the late 1800s. Granted, active implementation of those ideas began in earnest with FDR in the 1930s, but the ideological movement has been in place for more than a century. The Tea Party movement is an outstanding response to this, but it’s important to realize that it will likely take at least a generation to really undo the “progressive” mindset, if we can indeed undo it at all. You’re right that people like Frances Fox Piven are bone chilling scary. We should not underestimate those of her ilk.

  39. Dude42 Avatar

    I have no problem with government, but when they become our bankers and/or car makers, then they have crossed the line.

    Problem is, the intellectual push for a government with a more “activist” role has been in motion since the late 1800s. Granted, active implementation of those ideas began in earnest with FDR in the 1930s, but the ideological movement has been in place for more than a century. The Tea Party movement is an outstanding response to this, but it’s important to realize that it will likely take at least a generation to really undo the “progressive” mindset, if we can indeed undo it at all. You’re right that people like Frances Fox Piven are bone chilling scary. We should not underestimate those of her ilk.

  40. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    20 Tedtam says:
    January 18, 2011 at 9:19 am

    #14 Bob42

    Poor Bobby, I wonder whatever happened to him?

    Could it be?

  41. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    20 Tedtam says:
    January 18, 2011 at 9:19 am
    #14 Bob42

    Poor Bobby, I wonder whatever happened to him?

    Could it be?

  42. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    # 15 OletimerLin, That Woman is Bat Guano Crazy!

  43. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    # 15 OletimerLin, That Woman is Bat Guano Crazy!

  44. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #22 Dude42

    Problem is, the intellectual push for a government with a more “activist” role has been in motion since the late 1800s. Granted, active implementation of those ideas began in earnest with FDR in the 1930s,

    I agree, except we have been continually fighting for 4 generations since FDR. Hopefully now we can speed up the process or we may be doomed to spend another 4 generations fighting.

  45. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #22 Dude42

    Problem is, the intellectual push for a government with a more “activist” role has been in motion since the late 1800s. Granted, active implementation of those ideas began in earnest with FDR in the 1930s,

    I agree, except we have been continually fighting for 4 generations since FDR. Hopefully now we can speed up the process or we may be doomed to spend another 4 generations fighting.

  46. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    I think he might have been right for the first time I can recall:

    US Message Board – Political Discussion Forum > US Discussion > Politics
    Clinton: “A few years ago this guy would have been getting us coffee”

  47. El Gordo Avatar

    I think he might have been right for the first time I can recall:
    US Message Board – Political Discussion Forum > US Discussion > Politics
    Clinton: “A few years ago this guy would have been getting us coffee”

  48. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #20 Tedtam, nah I wouldn’t have hated you. I prolly would have complemented your typing talent before asking you out.

    However, I might also have covertly squirted platen cleaning fluid all over your machines shift clutch to flush out all the grease, causing it to slow down or seize completely. Or perhaps disabled the carriage decelerator so that your machine would bounce an inch to the left on each carriage return.

    I’m pretty sure my typing teacher really hated me.

  49. bob42 Avatar

    #20 Tedtam, nah I wouldn’t have hated you. I prolly would have complemented your typing talent before asking you out.
    However, I might also have covertly squirted platen cleaning fluid all over your machines shift clutch to flush out all the grease, causing it to slow down or seize completely. Or perhaps disabled the carriage decelerator so that your machine would bounce an inch to the left on each carriage return.
    I’m pretty sure my typing teacher really hated me.

  50. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #15 OTL, great post and scary to boot. The squirrels walk among us.

    Good morning all. No fog and 54 at 5:30 or 6. Fog last night at 10 shrouded everything, making haloes around all the yard lights in the distance and dripping off trees and buildings. It appeared and grew slowly around 7:30 this morning, dampened everything, and persists. Chilly (57) and too sloppy to let the mares out yet.

    Yesterday they rolled in a muddy spot and are a mess. Must brush the clods off before they can go out but am waiting until the fog is gone so they don’t go roll in the wet and wipe out the cleaning immediately. However the labor expended in brushing is good therapy for further strengthening my right hand and arm in recovery from the wrist and elbow surgery. All is not lost. Stern cautions to them to stay clean are futile.

  51. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #15 OTL, great post and scary to boot. The squirrels walk among us.
    Good morning all. No fog and 54 at 5:30 or 6. Fog last night at 10 shrouded everything, making haloes around all the yard lights in the distance and dripping off trees and buildings. It appeared and grew slowly around 7:30 this morning, dampened everything, and persists. Chilly (57) and too sloppy to let the mares out yet.
    Yesterday they rolled in a muddy spot and are a mess. Must brush the clods off before they can go out but am waiting until the fog is gone so they don’t go roll in the wet and wipe out the cleaning immediately. However the labor expended in brushing is good therapy for further strengthening my right hand and arm in recovery from the wrist and elbow surgery. All is not lost. Stern cautions to them to stay clean are futile.

  52. El Gordo Avatar

    Hopefully now we can speed up the process or we may be doomed to spend another 4 generations fighting.

    Hopefully, yes. But even if it takes 4 generations it is what we must do. Patience, diligence, maturity and diligence are all virtues which are going to be required of us. I’m doing my damnedest to pass these virtues on to my kids. They’re going to need them.

  53. Dude42 Avatar

    Hopefully now we can speed up the process or we may be doomed to spend another 4 generations fighting.

    Hopefully, yes. But even if it takes 4 generations it is what we must do. Patience, diligence, maturity and diligence are all virtues which are going to be required of us. I’m doing my damnedest to pass these virtues on to my kids. They’re going to need them.

  54. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #28 Adee

    However the labor expended in brushing is good therapy for further strengthening my right hand and arm

    Not to mention how calming it is for both the person and the horse.

  55. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #28 Adee

    However the labor expended in brushing is good therapy for further strengthening my right hand and arm

    Not to mention how calming it is for both the person and the horse.

  56. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    I’m impressed that some of you think this country will still be around for another 4 generations. I hope you are right.

  57. El Gordo Avatar

    I’m impressed that some of you think this country will still be around for another 4 generations. I hope you are right.

  58. Katfish Avatar

    The second most dangerous city in the US is laying off half of its police force due to severe budget shortfalls. Money quote:

    Up to one-fourth of the city government’s workforce is expected to lose their jobs.
    .
    About half the police force and one-third the firefighters were expected to lose their positions.

    For you **ahem** mathophobes, that nugget means the fire & police departments are being hit disproportionately hard relative to other less essential areas of city government. I wonder why that may be the case?

  59. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    The second most dangerous city in the US is laying off half of its police force due to severe budget shortfalls. Money quote:

    Up to one-fourth of the city government’s workforce is expected to lose their jobs.
    .
    About half the police force and one-third the firefighters were expected to lose their positions.

    For you **ahem** mathophobes, that nugget means the fire & police departments are being hit disproportionately hard relative to other less essential areas of city government. I wonder why that may be the case?

  60. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #31 OTL, Yes it is–and a wonderful communication.

  61. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #31 OTL, Yes it is–and a wonderful communication.

  62. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #33 wagonburner, One must conclude the Camden mayor is an idiot.

  63. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #33 wagonburner, One must conclude the Camden mayor is an idiot.

  64. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    I’d love to hang here all day, but my duties as a responsible citizen and husband are calling. (I’ve got a shopping list) Seeya in the funnies……….

  65. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    I’d love to hang here all day, but my duties as a responsible citizen and husband are calling. (I’ve got a shopping list) Seeya in the funnies……….

  66. El Gordo Avatar

    I’m impressed that some of you think this country will still be around for another 4 generations. I hope you are right.

    What? Over? Did you say “over”? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

  67. Dude42 Avatar

    I’m impressed that some of you think this country will still be around for another 4 generations. I hope you are right.

    What? Over? Did you say “over”? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

  68. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    37 Dude42 says:

    What? Over? Did you say “over”? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

    I still remember that like it was yesterday. It was permanently burned into my memory. That was one of the major things that made me join the Marines when I was old enough.

    Out the door with my shopping list.

  69. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    37 Dude42 says:

    What? Over? Did you say “over”? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

    I still remember that like it was yesterday. It was permanently burned into my memory. That was one of the major things that made me join the Marines when I was old enough.
    Out the door with my shopping list.

  70. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #37/38, I watched that flick over the weekend. Timeless Belushi, still funny after all these years.

  71. bob42 Avatar

    #37/38, I watched that flick over the weekend. Timeless Belushi, still funny after all these years.

  72. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    I forgot the linkie (again.)

    And while I’m at it, “That’s easy for you to say!”

  73. Hamous Avatar

    In fact, when my not-as-yet-royal status as Queen IS acknowledged

    Tedtam – TT -Tinkles, yes, I think Queen Tinkles works just fine:>)

  74. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    In fact, when my not-as-yet-royal status as Queen IS acknowledged

    Tedtam – TT -Tinkles, yes, I think Queen Tinkles works just fine:>)

  75. Tedtam Avatar

    I just watched video of the Golden Globes emcee Gervais. It’s “funny” how the Hollywood elite don’t have a problem poking their fingers in the eyes of those they disapprove of, and even make threats against them, but they sure get bent out of shape when their foibles and vanity are made public.

    They ain’t likin’ that mirror thing.

  76. Tedtam Avatar

    I just watched video of the Golden Globes emcee Gervais. It’s “funny” how the Hollywood elite don’t have a problem poking their fingers in the eyes of those they disapprove of, and even make threats against them, but they sure get bent out of shape when their foibles and vanity are made public.
    They ain’t likin’ that mirror thing.

  77. Tedtam Avatar

    #41 Boney

    Hey! At least add a “w” in there! Tinkles, indeed! Makes me want to pee on somebody!

    You can be at the front of the line, just for that suggestion, buddy. >8(

  78. Tedtam Avatar

    #41 Boney
    Hey! At least add a “w” in there! Tinkles, indeed! Makes me want to pee on somebody!
    You can be at the front of the line, just for that suggestion, buddy. >8(

  79. Hamous Avatar

    #43 I was wondering if that would get your dander up or not :>)

  80. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #43 I was wondering if that would get your dander up or not :>)

  81. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Ladies, are you feeling under compensated at work? Would you like a raise? Become a lesbian.

    The wage premium paid to lesbian workers is a bit of a mystery. Sure, lesbian women are better-educated on average, are more likely to be white, live predominantly in cities, have fewer children, and are significantly more likely to be a professional. But even when you control for these differences, the wage premium is still on the order of 6%.

  82. bob42 Avatar

    Ladies, are you feeling under compensated at work? Would you like a raise? Become a lesbian.

    The wage premium paid to lesbian workers is a bit of a mystery. Sure, lesbian women are better-educated on average, are more likely to be white, live predominantly in cities, have fewer children, and are significantly more likely to be a professional. But even when you control for these differences, the wage premium is still on the order of 6%.

  83. Tedtam Avatar

    LOL!

    Work Warning: a few f-bombs and questionable words enclosed

  84. Tedtam Avatar

    LOL!
    Work Warning: a few f-bombs and questionable words enclosed

  85. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #39 #40 bob42, that was a great movie, I can’t open your links but I loved it when Captain Wild Bill Kelso lands his P-40 in the desert and taxies up to a gas station and fills up. When he leaves he grabs a Coke and breaks the neck off by hitting it against the canopy and chugs the whole thing. I also liked Hollis P Wood who swallowed the compass in the Jap Sub. It seems that I remember a cute Blonde that liked to “fly high” in a B-17. 😉

  86. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #39 #40 bob42, that was a great movie, I can’t open your links but I loved it when Captain Wild Bill Kelso lands his P-40 in the desert and taxies up to a gas station and fills up. When he leaves he grabs a Coke and breaks the neck off by hitting it against the canopy and chugs the whole thing. I also liked Hollis P Wood who swallowed the compass in the Jap Sub. It seems that I remember a cute Blonde that liked to “fly high” in a B-17. 😉

  87. Hamous Avatar

    #43 Queen Tinkles:

    Makes me want to pee on somebody!

    You can be at the front of the line, just for that suggestion, buddy. >8(

    I sense a full mooooon coming on anytime soon :>)

  88. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #43 Queen Tinkles:

    Makes me want to pee on somebody!
    You can be at the front of the line, just for that suggestion, buddy. >8(

    I sense a full mooooon coming on anytime soon :>)

  89. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #48 Super Dave, 1941 was good too, but I was referring to Animal House.

    When Animal House was in theaters, my future wife and I were sharing an apartment with another DJ and his gal. Because we all worked at different times (me: 10pm to 2am, he: 6 to 10pm, my gal: 9 to 5, his gal: 3 to 11pm) the obligatory Toga Party lasted almost 30 continuous hours.

    But we weren’t nearly this wild. The phrase, “a picture tells a thousand words” is particularly applicable to Belushi’s use of facial expressions.

  90. bob42 Avatar

    #48 Super Dave, 1941 was good too, but I was referring to Animal House.
    When Animal House was in theaters, my future wife and I were sharing an apartment with another DJ and his gal. Because we all worked at different times (me: 10pm to 2am, he: 6 to 10pm, my gal: 9 to 5, his gal: 3 to 11pm) the obligatory Toga Party lasted almost 30 continuous hours.
    But we weren’t nearly this wild. The phrase, “a picture tells a thousand words” is particularly applicable to Belushi’s use of facial expressions.

  91. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    After watching Tedtam’s videos I began to wonder, can you blow an apollonian gasket?

    I guess it would depend on the particular Apollonian.

  92. Hamous Avatar

    After watching Tedtam’s videos I began to wonder, can you blow an apollonian gasket?

    I guess it would depend on the particular Apollonian.

  93. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    I don’t quite know what to say about this one folks, except that I don’t paint all tea parties with the same broad brush. There is much diversity amongst the individual groups.

    However, if your looking for a reason that the VMG dismisses them and Palin, and the left disses them both, I think the above vid is a pretty good example.

  94. bob42 Avatar

    I don’t quite know what to say about this one folks, except that I don’t paint all tea parties with the same broad brush. There is much diversity amongst the individual groups.
    However, if your looking for a reason that the VMG dismisses them and Palin, and the left disses them both, I think the above vid is a pretty good example.

  95. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Oh for Pete’s sake. You can find a blithering chucklehead supposedly representing any cause/group. The Left disses the Tea Parties because they see their grip on power slipping away.

  96. Hamous Avatar

    Oh for Pete’s sake. You can find a blithering chucklehead supposedly representing any cause/group. The Left disses the Tea Parties because they see their grip on power slipping away.

  97. Tedtam Avatar

    …and I don’t see the VMG dismissing the Tea Party, either.

    Heck, it’s looking more and more like the Tea Party is becoming the VMG.

    /confused

  98. Tedtam Avatar

    …and I don’t see the VMG dismissing the Tea Party, either.
    Heck, it’s looking more and more like the Tea Party is becoming the VMG.
    /confused

  99. Tedtam Avatar

    The current caller on Rush is wissing me off. She needs to shut up and share the conversation. Damn libs.

  100. Tedtam Avatar

    The current caller on Rush is wissing me off. She needs to shut up and share the conversation. Damn libs.

  101. SC Avatar
    SC

    #47 Once upon a time an engineers secretary typed a letter for a pre-bid or pre-con meeting. Somehow or another she ended up inviting everone to a “beastiality conference”. The engineer missed it, signed and sent it.

  102. SC Avatar
    SC

    #47 Once upon a time an engineers secretary typed a letter for a pre-bid or pre-con meeting. Somehow or another she ended up inviting everone to a “beastiality conference”. The engineer missed it, signed and sent it.

  103. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #56 SC, Shrieking LOL Any clue how recovery was made with any shred of dignity?

  104. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #56 SC, Shrieking LOL Any clue how recovery was made with any shred of dignity?

  105. Hamous Avatar

    #57 Adee: It’s a jungle out there. . . . . .(queue rim shot)

  106. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #57 Adee: It’s a jungle out there. . . . . .(queue rim shot)

  107. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #57/58 Freudian slip perhaps? (Who’d have guessed that Freud was a cross dresser.)

  108. bob42 Avatar

    #57/58 Freudian slip perhaps? (Who’d have guessed that Freud was a cross dresser.)

  109. Hamous Avatar

    #59 bob420: or that he liked to take a walk on the wild side.

  110. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #59 bob420: or that he liked to take a walk on the wild side.

  111. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #50 bob42

    What? Over? Did you say “over”? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

    Dang Dammit, you’re right, that was what Belushi said after they were thrown out of school, When I saw the “Pearl Harbor” quote I thought of 1941. 😕

  112. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #50 bob42

    What? Over? Did you say “over”? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

    Dang Dammit, you’re right, that was what Belushi said after they were thrown out of school, When I saw the “Pearl Harbor” quote I thought of 1941. 😕

  113. SC Avatar
    SC

    #57 adee, I called the engineer and asked him to read his letter. He was of course aghast. The letter came in the mail so I’m sure full distribution was made. I’m sure there was lots of rolling on the floor but I never heard the aftermath. Oh, and it was a City of Houston project so many city employees got it.

  114. SC Avatar
    SC

    #57 adee, I called the engineer and asked him to read his letter. He was of course aghast. The letter came in the mail so I’m sure full distribution was made. I’m sure there was lots of rolling on the floor but I never heard the aftermath. Oh, and it was a City of Houston project so many city employees got it.

  115. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    That reminds me, has anyone seen Mike Hunt? 😉

  116. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    That reminds me, has anyone seen Mike Hunt? 😉

  117. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Tedtam
    #54

    Heck, it’s looking more and more like the Tea Party is becoming the VMG.

    The Tea Party is the old “Republican” voters that had no other place to go but the Republican play pen. So yeah you are correct.

  118. squawkbox Avatar

    Tedtam
    #54

    Heck, it’s looking more and more like the Tea Party is becoming the VMG.

    The Tea Party is the old “Republican” voters that had no other place to go but the Republican play pen. So yeah you are correct.

  119. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Some people should not be allowed to start a band.

    /much less allowed on stage.

  120. squawkbox Avatar

    Some people should not be allowed to start a band.
    /much less allowed on stage.

  121. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #62 SC, several years ago, I was setting up a multi-day seminar for 80 of our top techs, and was asking a vendor contact to round up a propeller head to come and present to them for a day. He accidentally cc’d me on an email to one of their engineers.

    He wrote, “Hey Jim, are you into spending a day with a crew of the white sock wearing pocket protector crowd?” He tried to retract the email, but it was too late. I’d already opened it and was ROTF.

    The engineer showed up and put on a good presentation. I took him and four of the techs who also presented out to dinner, and as planned, we all showed up equipped with pocket protectors and wearing white socks.

    To this day on conference calls between our companies, it’s still a running joke. Sort of like two gay bears wearing clown suits singing show tunes.

  122. bob42 Avatar

    #62 SC, several years ago, I was setting up a multi-day seminar for 80 of our top techs, and was asking a vendor contact to round up a propeller head to come and present to them for a day. He accidentally cc’d me on an email to one of their engineers.
    He wrote, “Hey Jim, are you into spending a day with a crew of the white sock wearing pocket protector crowd?” He tried to retract the email, but it was too late. I’d already opened it and was ROTF.
    The engineer showed up and put on a good presentation. I took him and four of the techs who also presented out to dinner, and as planned, we all showed up equipped with pocket protectors and wearing white socks.
    To this day on conference calls between our companies, it’s still a running joke. Sort of like two gay bears wearing clown suits singing show tunes.

  123. gtotracker42 Avatar
    gtotracker42

    #56 & 57, Oh trust me, I KNOW how that one went. ‘The contractor received and opened a letter he had been advised by addendum not to open. As the contractor made the error of opening said letter, a replacement letter will be sent at contractor’s expense. Any further delays caused by contractor’s error will be added to liquidated damages.’ Eventually, the sub-contractors got the bill.

  124. gtotracker42 Avatar
    gtotracker42

    #56 & 57, Oh trust me, I KNOW how that one went. ‘The contractor received and opened a letter he had been advised by addendum not to open. As the contractor made the error of opening said letter, a replacement letter will be sent at contractor’s expense. Any further delays caused by contractor’s error will be added to liquidated damages.’ Eventually, the sub-contractors got the bill.

  125. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Well, I remember it like yesterday,…the day that the “Lame Stream Media” died. I can’t believe it’s been 13 years! FWIW; Matt Drudge became a Ka-Jillionaire after this because he had the bawls to print something that the “Lame Stream Media” were sittting on! The rest, as they say, is history.

    Monday, January 17, 2011, was Martin Luther King Day. But in a completely unrelated bit of salacious Washington history, it also marked the 13th anniversary of the day that Matt Drudge broke the Monica Lewinsky story on The Drudge Report.

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, the internet is the modern day Franklin Press.
    😉

  126. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Well, I remember it like yesterday,…the day that the “Lame Stream Media” died. I can’t believe it’s been 13 years! FWIW; Matt Drudge became a Ka-Jillionaire after this because he had the bawls to print something that the “Lame Stream Media” were sittting on! The rest, as they say, is history.

    Monday, January 17, 2011, was Martin Luther King Day. But in a completely unrelated bit of salacious Washington history, it also marked the 13th anniversary of the day that Matt Drudge broke the Monica Lewinsky story on The Drudge Report.

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, the internet is the modern day Franklin Press.
    😉

  127. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Besides utterly hating school my academic weakness was/is English grammar. Spelling, punctuation, capitalization, etc. I was even placed in an ESL class my 10th year of school. The purpose was for me to catch up on my basic English skills and it actually worked.

    Later on in my life having to learn conversational Portuguese in two months was near tortue for me Though throug dedicating lots of study time, saying heart-felt prayers, and finding ways to enjoy the language proved an enourmous blessing.

    And if men come unto me I will show unto them their weakness. I give unto men weakness that they may be humble; and my grace is sufficient for all men that humble themselves before me; for if they humble themselves before me, and have faith in me, then will I make weak things become strong unto them.

    Ether 12:27

    Que Deus abençoe todos vocês.

  128. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Besides utterly hating school my academic weakness was/is English grammar. Spelling, punctuation, capitalization, etc. I was even placed in an ESL class my 10th year of school. The purpose was for me to catch up on my basic English skills and it actually worked.
    Later on in my life having to learn conversational Portuguese in two months was near tortue for me Though throug dedicating lots of study time, saying heart-felt prayers, and finding ways to enjoy the language proved an enourmous blessing.

    And if men come unto me I will show unto them their weakness. I give unto men weakness that they may be humble; and my grace is sufficient for all men that humble themselves before me; for if they humble themselves before me, and have faith in me, then will I make weak things become strong unto them.

    Ether 12:27
    Que Deus abençoe todos vocês.

  129. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    duhmoose;

    I think most people’s problems with math can be traced back to a series of teachers early on who taught them that math is boring.

    Sort of like, “why do we need to do it this way?” “Because I said so,” the teacher would reply? Teach them the why first and all else makes a lot mor sense. Like drawing seven cars with four seats each. Six cars are entirely full but the seventh has only 3 out of four seats filled. Well right there students can see 6 wholes and only 3/4th of the last whole filled. Thus you have 6 3/4. Then count up all the seats of the whole cars (the ones completely filled) and that’ll give you 24. Students can see how six wholes based on units of four is 24. Add the remaining filled seats (three) t that product giving you 27 and remind students that this is all based on units of four which is what the denominator tells you.

    At this point multiplying the denominator with the whole number and then adding the numerator and placing that total over the denominator and inversly dividing the denominator into the numerator and adding the remaining fraction to return to a mixed number makes a whole lot more sense than just telling the students, “because I said so.” 🙂

  130. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    duhmoose;

    I think most people’s problems with math can be traced back to a series of teachers early on who taught them that math is boring.

    Sort of like, “why do we need to do it this way?” “Because I said so,” the teacher would reply? Teach them the why first and all else makes a lot mor sense. Like drawing seven cars with four seats each. Six cars are entirely full but the seventh has only 3 out of four seats filled. Well right there students can see 6 wholes and only 3/4th of the last whole filled. Thus you have 6 3/4. Then count up all the seats of the whole cars (the ones completely filled) and that’ll give you 24. Students can see how six wholes based on units of four is 24. Add the remaining filled seats (three) t that product giving you 27 and remind students that this is all based on units of four which is what the denominator tells you.
    At this point multiplying the denominator with the whole number and then adding the numerator and placing that total over the denominator and inversly dividing the denominator into the numerator and adding the remaining fraction to return to a mixed number makes a whole lot more sense than just telling the students, “because I said so.” 🙂

  131. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    This touched me.

    As the teen began to walk away, Diaz told him, “Hey, wait a minute. You forgot something. If you’re going to be robbing people for the rest of the night, you might as well take my coat to keep you warm.”

    The would-be robber looked at his would-be victim, “like what’s going on here?” Diaz says. “He asked me, ‘Why are you doing this?’”

    Diaz replied: “If you’re willing to risk your freedom for a few dollars, then I guess you must really need the money. I mean, all I wanted to do was get dinner and if you really want to join me … hey, you’re more than welcome.

    I’d like to think that I might could have done something like that, but I kind of doubt it.

  132. bob42 Avatar

    This touched me.

    As the teen began to walk away, Diaz told him, “Hey, wait a minute. You forgot something. If you’re going to be robbing people for the rest of the night, you might as well take my coat to keep you warm.”
    The would-be robber looked at his would-be victim, “like what’s going on here?” Diaz says. “He asked me, ‘Why are you doing this?’”
    Diaz replied: “If you’re willing to risk your freedom for a few dollars, then I guess you must really need the money. I mean, all I wanted to do was get dinner and if you really want to join me … hey, you’re more than welcome.

    I’d like to think that I might could have done something like that, but I kind of doubt it.

  133. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Time for Scouts.

    Later.

  134. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Time for Scouts.
    Later.

  135. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    These seem to be the prime languages of the unfeathered biped: Words spoken & written; Mathematics spoken and written; Music played and written. And the several parts of the brain that command them.

  136. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    These seem to be the prime languages of the unfeathered biped: Words spoken & written; Mathematics spoken and written; Music played and written. And the several parts of the brain that command them.

  137. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #3 Tim
    You always cheer me up with your offbeat humor.

  138. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #3 Tim
    You always cheer me up with your offbeat humor.

  139. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Here’s a brief review of Hu’s visit to DC as posted originally at Drudge.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MM8dbWZ8Xw

  140. El Gordo Avatar

    Here’s a brief review of Hu’s visit to DC as posted originally at Drudge.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MM8dbWZ8Xw

  141. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #73 Adee

    These seem to be the prime languages of the unfeathered biped: Words spoken & written; Mathematics spoken and written; Music played and written. And the several parts of the brain that command them.

    Very well said, but not surprising coming from you. The main thing is that this all comes from the good Lord. I could talk about the bee hive being one of the strongest structures ever made or the migration of birds, butterflies and fish, to name a few, BUTT, since electronics is my background the most fascinating thing that I see is the “sine wave” there are waves that you can feel but not hear or see, go a little higher and you can hear them, (up to about 20,000 Hz if you are young) then there’s radio waves that transmit thing we can’t see or hear until they go through a Discriminator of some kind. Go high enough and you get to a very small section of bandwidth that is light, I.E. UV/IR and the smallest of all visible light. Next would be X-Rays to Gamma Rays. Anyone that could look at this and not KNOW That There Is God,…I just don’t understand.

  142. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #73 Adee

    These seem to be the prime languages of the unfeathered biped: Words spoken & written; Mathematics spoken and written; Music played and written. And the several parts of the brain that command them.

    Very well said, but not surprising coming from you. The main thing is that this all comes from the good Lord. I could talk about the bee hive being one of the strongest structures ever made or the migration of birds, butterflies and fish, to name a few, BUTT, since electronics is my background the most fascinating thing that I see is the “sine wave” there are waves that you can feel but not hear or see, go a little higher and you can hear them, (up to about 20,000 Hz if you are young) then there’s radio waves that transmit thing we can’t see or hear until they go through a Discriminator of some kind. Go high enough and you get to a very small section of bandwidth that is light, I.E. UV/IR and the smallest of all visible light. Next would be X-Rays to Gamma Rays. Anyone that could look at this and not KNOW That There Is God,…I just don’t understand.

  143. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    73 Adee
    I can confidently say that “two out of three” is working out just fine for me.
    I did okay in math, but boredom crept in very early. It is aesthetically neutral for me.
    That some can get all excited about it dumbfounds me.

    72 Darren
    “At this point multiplying the denominator with the whole number and then adding the numerator and placing that total over the denominator and inversly dividing the denominator into the numerator and adding the remaining fraction to return to a mixed number makes a whole lot more sense than just telling the students, “because I said so.” 🙂 ”

    Uh, not really. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

  144. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    73 Adee
    I can confidently say that “two out of three” is working out just fine for me.
    I did okay in math, but boredom crept in very early. It is aesthetically neutral for me.
    That some can get all excited about it dumbfounds me.
    72 Darren
    “At this point multiplying the denominator with the whole number and then adding the numerator and placing that total over the denominator and inversly dividing the denominator into the numerator and adding the remaining fraction to return to a mixed number makes a whole lot more sense than just telling the students, “because I said so.” 🙂 ”
    Uh, not really. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

  145. El Gordo Avatar

    After all these years we find out that Shannon is a math wimp. Tsk tsk.

    🙂

  146. Dude42 Avatar

    After all these years we find out that Shannon is a math wimp. Tsk tsk.
    🙂

  147. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Shanon;

    Don’t make me go macho-nun on you.

  148. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Shanon;
    Don’t make me go macho-nun on you.

  149. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    78 Dude.

    “Because I said so.” worked just fine for me. Anything to get the hell out of Math sooner and on to English or History or Creative Writing.

    Ya geek. 🙂

  150. Shannon Avatar
    Shannon

    78 Dude.
    “Because I said so.” worked just fine for me. Anything to get the hell out of Math sooner and on to English or History or Creative Writing.
    Ya geek. 🙂

  151. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Super Dave #76;

    My understanding is that humans in their prime can hear between 20Hz to 20 kHz. Especially within the last 5 years or so there’s been attempts to raise speakers way over 20,000 Hz like to around 30-40 Hz. Although no human can hear sound that higher there is a provable affect that going that high raises the quality of the audiable sounds produced and consciously sensed by people. Same goes for the lower sounds. **Quality** subwoofers that play down to let’s say 16-18 Hz send out waves that cannot be heard but definitely felt. My sub can only play down to 38 Hz and still scenes like U-571’s depth charges going off sound superb even on that. I can only imagine what a deeper-sounding sub would be like during such scenes, let alone good pipe organ music.

    I totally agree that our senses and the physics governing what we experience and how we experience them point to God.

  152. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Super Dave #76;
    My understanding is that humans in their prime can hear between 20Hz to 20 kHz. Especially within the last 5 years or so there’s been attempts to raise speakers way over 20,000 Hz like to around 30-40 Hz. Although no human can hear sound that higher there is a provable affect that going that high raises the quality of the audiable sounds produced and consciously sensed by people. Same goes for the lower sounds. **Quality** subwoofers that play down to let’s say 16-18 Hz send out waves that cannot be heard but definitely felt. My sub can only play down to 38 Hz and still scenes like U-571’s depth charges going off sound superb even on that. I can only imagine what a deeper-sounding sub would be like during such scenes, let alone good pipe organ music.
    I totally agree that our senses and the physics governing what we experience and how we experience them point to God.

  153. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    CNN Apologizes For Guest Using Term “Crosshairs”

    Good grief we’re being taken over by ture girly men. As for that Sarah Palin, she’s one butch gal.

  154. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    CNN Apologizes For Guest Using Term “Crosshairs”
    Good grief we’re being taken over by ture girly men. As for that Sarah Palin, she’s one butch gal.

  155. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Synthetic Cocaine Sold As ‘Bath Salts’

    Now watch that totaltarian draconian authoritarian support outlawing bath salts. 😈

  156. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Synthetic Cocaine Sold As ‘Bath Salts’
    Now watch that totaltarian draconian authoritarian support outlawing bath salts. 😈

  157. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Sweet dreams, all you Hamsters. I have a tough work schedule for 2 solid weeks so I will be a zombie through the 28th. May perk up a bit on the weekend so I look forward to catching up then. In the meanwhile — What’s the frquency, Kenneth?

  158. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Sweet dreams, all you Hamsters. I have a tough work schedule for 2 solid weeks so I will be a zombie through the 28th. May perk up a bit on the weekend so I look forward to catching up then. In the meanwhile — What’s the frquency, Kenneth?

  159. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    From a side link I spotted on my above linke: Mormon ‘mommy blogs’ getting noticed

    Though I would not classify Lil’ Sis’s blog as a “Mormon mommy” blog, it is definitely laden with momminess. After all, who in their right mind can resist the Ninja Twins.

  160. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    From a side link I spotted on my above linke: Mormon ‘mommy blogs’ getting noticed
    Though I would not classify Lil’ Sis’s blog as a “Mormon mommy” blog, it is definitely laden with momminess. After all, who in their right mind can resist the Ninja Twins.

  161. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    G’night all. No fog in the forecast for tomorrow morning. Just the usual cobwebs floating around the brain until it wakes up.

  162. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    G’night all. No fog in the forecast for tomorrow morning. Just the usual cobwebs floating around the brain until it wakes up.

  163. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I don’t know if I’ll post comments on Pajamas Media itself so if I do let it be known that my reactions were first posted right here on hamous.org.

    Thou Shalt Not! The WaPo’s ‘On Faith’ Blog Spikes a Regular Contributor When He Writes on Islam

    The bold is mine.

    From #2:

    In the New Testament (and other early Christian literature), much is said about nonviolence, never is violence commanded or even suggested; it is forbidden. Not so, early Muslim literature. The contrast is to be expected: Jesus was anti-violent, Muhammad was violent (a military leader as well as a religious leader).

    As for the first bold portion, I find that factually incorrect. To connect my declarative to the second bold portion, I would not describe Jesus as “anti-violent” especially with the connotation of pacifism. Jesus was not against using violence when necessary nor did He refuse to describe Himself in violent terms. Jesus was indeed pro-forgiving, pro-long suffering, and pro-meek. none of these, however, naturally speak against violence.

    From #3:

    Because Jesus was a failure and Muhammad a success, Christians from the start learned how to be a minority religion and survived Jesus’ failure only by the fact that he didn’t stay dead. Christians don’t know how to behave when they are in power (and, of course, have sometimes abused their power). But Islam was, from its start, majority-minded; and Muslims don’t know how to behave when they are not in power: it enrages them, makes them thin-skinned to “blasphemy,” drives them to achieve power and impose sharia, even motivates some of them to martyr-suicide in killing any they consider enemies of Allah.

    A most excellent observation.

    From #4:

    Muslims are now more aggressive blasphemers against Christianity. In Muslim lands more than a half century ago, I heard no tour-guide blaspheme my religion. Not so my latest experience: the tour-guides went out of their way to insert the statement, “God has no son.” Since we Christians believe in the Holy Trinity, the One God as Father/Son/Holy Spirit, to attack the Holy Trinity is the height of blasphemy.

    I totally agree with the statement in the first bold sentence. As for the second, it’s not inherently blasphemous to speak against the Holy Trinity though I’d say doing so in the manner of the way Elliot described the Imam it was inappropriate and the Imam was only seaking a “fight”. Saying ‘God has no son’ is clearly against the most fundamental tenets of Christianity and I cannot find and reason the Imam needed to shout such a thing out as he reportedly did other than to start a controversy.

    From #5:

    Americans don’t have to go to Muslim lands to hear our religion blasphemed by Muslims. In a Christian church in Portland, OR, I heard an imam (an immigrant from Yemen) say to the post-worship assemblage, “God has no son.” (Not, “We Muslims believe that God has no son.”) When I yelled, “Blasphemy!” the assemblage was shocked to silence and he was so unnerved that he initiated a handshake with me seven times before he left the church.

    Good for Elliot.

    Wouldn’t it help if Christians and Muslims stopped trying to convert each other? This understandable question is ignorant of the fact that among the world’s religions, these two are the most essentially missionary: sharing one’s world-view, one’s way of seeing and living in the world, is optional to neither. Muslims will continue to strive (jihad) for dar es salam (a peaceful world under Allah) in dar es harb (the “war” world, all the world not yet under Allah — especially where non-Muslim governments such as the state of Israel are in control of any part of the world that was once under Allah). And “the West” (with rootage in Christianity) will not cease pressing for religious freedom everywhere.

    As for the first bold sentence, I’d have to agree. As for the second, that’s exactly correct and the West had better learn and remember that. As for the third bold sentence, another excellent point made by Elliot.

  164. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I don’t know if I’ll post comments on Pajamas Media itself so if I do let it be known that my reactions were first posted right here on hamous.org.
    Thou Shalt Not! The WaPo’s ‘On Faith’ Blog Spikes a Regular Contributor When He Writes on Islam
    The bold is mine.
    From #2:

    In the New Testament (and other early Christian literature), much is said about nonviolence, never is violence commanded or even suggested; it is forbidden. Not so, early Muslim literature. The contrast is to be expected: Jesus was anti-violent, Muhammad was violent (a military leader as well as a religious leader).

    As for the first bold portion, I find that factually incorrect. To connect my declarative to the second bold portion, I would not describe Jesus as “anti-violent” especially with the connotation of pacifism. Jesus was not against using violence when necessary nor did He refuse to describe Himself in violent terms. Jesus was indeed pro-forgiving, pro-long suffering, and pro-meek. none of these, however, naturally speak against violence.
    From #3:

    Because Jesus was a failure and Muhammad a success, Christians from the start learned how to be a minority religion and survived Jesus’ failure only by the fact that he didn’t stay dead. Christians don’t know how to behave when they are in power (and, of course, have sometimes abused their power). But Islam was, from its start, majority-minded; and Muslims don’t know how to behave when they are not in power: it enrages them, makes them thin-skinned to “blasphemy,” drives them to achieve power and impose sharia, even motivates some of them to martyr-suicide in killing any they consider enemies of Allah.

    A most excellent observation.
    From #4:

    Muslims are now more aggressive blasphemers against Christianity. In Muslim lands more than a half century ago, I heard no tour-guide blaspheme my religion. Not so my latest experience: the tour-guides went out of their way to insert the statement, “God has no son.” Since we Christians believe in the Holy Trinity, the One God as Father/Son/Holy Spirit, to attack the Holy Trinity is the height of blasphemy.

    I totally agree with the statement in the first bold sentence. As for the second, it’s not inherently blasphemous to speak against the Holy Trinity though I’d say doing so in the manner of the way Elliot described the Imam it was inappropriate and the Imam was only seaking a “fight”. Saying ‘God has no son’ is clearly against the most fundamental tenets of Christianity and I cannot find and reason the Imam needed to shout such a thing out as he reportedly did other than to start a controversy.
    From #5:

    Americans don’t have to go to Muslim lands to hear our religion blasphemed by Muslims. In a Christian church in Portland, OR, I heard an imam (an immigrant from Yemen) say to the post-worship assemblage, “God has no son.” (Not, “We Muslims believe that God has no son.”) When I yelled, “Blasphemy!” the assemblage was shocked to silence and he was so unnerved that he initiated a handshake with me seven times before he left the church.

    Good for Elliot.

    Wouldn’t it help if Christians and Muslims stopped trying to convert each other? This understandable question is ignorant of the fact that among the world’s religions, these two are the most essentially missionary: sharing one’s world-view, one’s way of seeing and living in the world, is optional to neither. Muslims will continue to strive (jihad) for dar es salam (a peaceful world under Allah) in dar es harb (the “war” world, all the world not yet under Allah — especially where non-Muslim governments such as the state of Israel are in control of any part of the world that was once under Allah). And “the West” (with rootage in Christianity) will not cease pressing for religious freedom everywhere.

    As for the first bold sentence, I’d have to agree. As for the second, that’s exactly correct and the West had better learn and remember that. As for the third bold sentence, another excellent point made by Elliot.

  165. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I just realized that there’s no distinction between my last to bold portions. The second is from “Muslim” to “Allah)”.

  166. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I just realized that there’s no distinction between my last to bold portions. The second is from “Muslim” to “Allah)”.

  167. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Just dropped into the ole mail box;
    South Carolina Hwy Patrol Statements
    These are actual comments made by South Carolina Troopers that were taken off their car videos:
    1. “You know, stop lights don’t come any redder than the one you just went through.”
    2. “Relax, the handcuffs are tight because they’re new. They’ll stretch after you wear them a while.”
    3. “If you take your hands off the car, I’ll make your birth certificate a worthless document.” (My Favorite)
    4. “If you run, you’ll only go to jail tired.”
    5. “Can you run faster than 1200 feet per second? Because that’s the speed of the bullet that’ll be chasing you.” (LOVE IT)
    6. “You don’t know how fast you were going? I guess that means I can write anything I want to on the ticket, huh?”
    7. “Yes, sir, you can talk to the shift supervisor, but I don’t think it will help. Oh, did I mention that I’m the shift supervisor?”
    8. “Warning! You want a warning? O.K, I’m warning you not to do that again or I’ll give you another ticket.”
    9. “The answer to this last question will determine whether you are drunk or not. Was Mickey Mouse a cat or a dog?”
    10. “Fair? You want me to be fair? Listen, fair is a place where you go to ride on rides, eat cotton candy and corn dogs and step in monkey poop.”
    11. “Yeah, we have a quota. Two more tickets and my wife gets a toaster oven.”
    12. “In God we trust; all others we run through NCIC.” ( National Crime Information Center )
    13. “Just how big were those ‘two beers’ you say you had?”
    14. “No sir, we don’t have quotas anymore. We used to, but now we’re allowed to write as many tickets as we can.”
    15. “I’m glad to hear that the Chief (of Police) is a personal friend of yours. So you know someone who can post your bail.”
    AND THE WINNER IS….
    16. “You didn’t think we give pretty women tickets? You’re right, we don’t. Sign here.”

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