Thursday The System Worked Open Comments

It’s looking more and more that the best path to airline security is empowering the passengers too deal with threats themselves. It remains valuable to screen for weapons and large explosive packages, but we’ve long since reached the point of diminishing returns on screening for all explosives.

Passengers on a Turkish Airlines jet have overpowered a man who tried to hijack their flight from Norway to Istanbul, security sources say.
Turkish media reported that the man put on a mask and tried to force his way into the cockpit, saying he had a bomb.

So far, sounds fairly standard for a hijacking, but then we have this:

The pilot raised the alarm and police said that when they entered the plane a passenger was sitting on top of the suspect.

We can only hope he was somewhat the worse for the wear when they dragged his sorry a$$ off the plane.


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  1. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    I guess it might be good to have a few oversize passengers on board for security reasons.

    Morning sleepy heads

  2. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    I guess it might be good to have a few oversize passengers on board for security reasons.
    Morning sleepy heads

  3. meglettx Avatar

    I pulled on my full body blog condom and dove headlong into second.

  4. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    I pulled on my full body blog condom and dove headlong into second.

  5. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    What in the world were they thinking? Don’t they know that it’s now against the rules to take personal responsibility for one’s own safety and security. If word of this were to leak out and the sheeple discovered that all this security scanning and stuff is just for show anyway why they might just discover they don’t need the government involved at all – and then look what could happen. Imagine, people soon discovering they could do other things without government involvement as well – no telling where that could lead. Better nip that idea in the bud real quick. did they arrest the passenger for assaulting the perp or anything?

  6. El Gordo Avatar

    What in the world were they thinking? Don’t they know that it’s now against the rules to take personal responsibility for one’s own safety and security. If word of this were to leak out and the sheeple discovered that all this security scanning and stuff is just for show anyway why they might just discover they don’t need the government involved at all – and then look what could happen. Imagine, people soon discovering they could do other things without government involvement as well – no telling where that could lead. Better nip that idea in the bud real quick. did they arrest the passenger for assaulting the perp or anything?

  7. Hamous Avatar

    Pyro:
    I saw video footage of the perp being walked into security or something; he looked a whole lot worse for wear. I have a hard time imagining that any airplane could be hijacked again; the passengers will no longer allow it. I think the appropriate thing would be for the passengers to “vigorously subdue” the perp(s) and then turn what is left over to the authorities when the plane safely lands at its destination.

  8. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Pyro:
    I saw video footage of the perp being walked into security or something; he looked a whole lot worse for wear. I have a hard time imagining that any airplane could be hijacked again; the passengers will no longer allow it. I think the appropriate thing would be for the passengers to “vigorously subdue” the perp(s) and then turn what is left over to the authorities when the plane safely lands at its destination.

  9. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Now this is just too cool! Sun gets double crossed.
    Mornin’ Gang

  10. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Now this is just too cool! Sun gets double crossed.
    Mornin’ Gang

  11. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    A year ago, the U.S. government and world partners, led by the World Customs Organization, launched an initiative called Global Shield, focusing on chemicals such as ammonium nitrate, which can be found in standard fertilizer and is used in more than 80 percent of the homemade bombs used by insurgents in Afghanistan.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/05/napolitano-counterterrorism-focus-shipments-everyday-chemicals/#ixzz1AGsfItjj

    At the risk of sounding like Daniel James:

    control the fertilizer -> control food production -> control food supply -> control population

  12. Hamous Avatar

    A year ago, the U.S. government and world partners, led by the World Customs Organization, launched an initiative called Global Shield, focusing on chemicals such as ammonium nitrate, which can be found in standard fertilizer and is used in more than 80 percent of the homemade bombs used by insurgents in Afghanistan.
    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/05/napolitano-counterterrorism-focus-shipments-everyday-chemicals/#ixzz1AGsfItjj

    At the risk of sounding like Daniel James:
    control the fertilizer -> control food production -> control food supply -> control population

  13. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Romania’s fiscal worries are over.

    In an effort to crack down on tax evasion and pull the nation out of a recession, Romania has decided to tax its witches. Romanian witches are not pleased and said they will respond by doing what they do best: casting a spell on the president and government.

  14. bob42 Avatar

    Romania’s fiscal worries are over.

    In an effort to crack down on tax evasion and pull the nation out of a recession, Romania has decided to tax its witches. Romanian witches are not pleased and said they will respond by doing what they do best: casting a spell on the president and government.

  15. meglettx Avatar

    LONG LIVE DANIEL JAMES!

  16. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    LONG LIVE DANIEL JAMES!

  17. Hamous Avatar

    #6 Hamous: dontcha see, we are humans and do not deserve to live (unless you are a liberal, leftist terd-nozzle) because we upset the natural order of things. We evolved form apes or sea slime or whatever and are part of the natural evolution of things – but we are un-natural because we think, therefore there are too many of us.
    When in doubt as to motivations by the left do the following:
    1) follow the money
    2) follow the power
    3) repeat the above as often as necessary until the answer is revealed.
    This is still nothing more than the naked lust for power, otherwise, they would go after the bad guys. Going after fertilizer to get at bomb makers makes as much sense as going after pencils for misspelled words.

  18. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #6 Hamous: dontcha see, we are humans and do not deserve to live (unless you are a liberal, leftist terd-nozzle) because we upset the natural order of things. We evolved form apes or sea slime or whatever and are part of the natural evolution of things – but we are un-natural because we think, therefore there are too many of us.
    When in doubt as to motivations by the left do the following:
    1) follow the money
    2) follow the power
    3) repeat the above as often as necessary until the answer is revealed.
    This is still nothing more than the naked lust for power, otherwise, they would go after the bad guys. Going after fertilizer to get at bomb makers makes as much sense as going after pencils for misspelled words.

  19. Tedtam Avatar

    #9 Bone

    but we are un-natural because we think, therefore there are too many of us.

    Well, I can think of a few libs for whom this actually is true…

  20. Tedtam Avatar

    #9 Bone

    but we are un-natural because we think, therefore there are too many of us.

    Well, I can think of a few libs for whom this actually is true…

  21. El Gordo Avatar

    Here comes the first real test for incoming Repubs:

    The U.S. House of Representatives agreed Wednesday to change voting procedures on increasing the nation’s borrowing limit. The new policy means that lawmakers will be forced to go on record in support of raising government borrowing or vote “no” and risk putting the U.S. into default.

    We shall soon see what they’re really made of.

  22. Dude42 Avatar

    Here comes the first real test for incoming Repubs:

    The U.S. House of Representatives agreed Wednesday to change voting procedures on increasing the nation’s borrowing limit. The new policy means that lawmakers will be forced to go on record in support of raising government borrowing or vote “no” and risk putting the U.S. into default.

    We shall soon see what they’re really made of.

  23. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Can you say delusions of grandeur ?
    Dem campaign chief: Goal is making Pelosi Speaker again.

    From the comments;

    Good riddance to the 111th Congress
    Liberal/Progressive body leaves a Legacy of Financial Disaster

    What comes to mind when you think of “the worst”?
    FACT: President Jimmy Carter. The 1962 Mets. Vanilla Ice. Now add to that list the 111th Congress, which is finally slated to wrap up business this week.
    Former House Speaker MadameComrade Pelosky just didn’t want to give up that gavel.
    In fact, This may have been the worst Congress since Lyndon Johnson’s landslide ushered in the Congress that gave us the Great Society and the Vietnam War.

    FACT: Current 111th Congress Job Approval barely 13%.

  24. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Can you say delusions of grandeur ?
    Dem campaign chief: Goal is making Pelosi Speaker again.

    From the comments;

    Good riddance to the 111th Congress
    Liberal/Progressive body leaves a Legacy of Financial Disaster
    What comes to mind when you think of “the worst”?
    FACT: President Jimmy Carter. The 1962 Mets. Vanilla Ice. Now add to that list the 111th Congress, which is finally slated to wrap up business this week.
    Former House Speaker MadameComrade Pelosky just didn’t want to give up that gavel.
    In fact, This may have been the worst Congress since Lyndon Johnson’s landslide ushered in the Congress that gave us the Great Society and the Vietnam War.
    FACT: Current 111th Congress Job Approval barely 13%.

  25. Katfish Avatar

    control the fertilizer -> control food production -> control food supply -> control population

    –> Soylent Green

  26. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    control the fertilizer -> control food production -> control food supply -> control population

    –> Soylent Green

  27. Tedtam Avatar

    Well, this will be interesting to watch!

    Political Correctness or Racism?
    Which will win?

  28. Tedtam Avatar

    Well, this will be interesting to watch!
    Political Correctness or Racism?
    Which will win?

  29. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    As to the debt ceiling, it’s my understanding that there is almost half (or more or less) of the almost $1 trillion in TARP and stimulus funds remaining unspent at this time – and that Obama intends to hold this in reserve for the 2012 election effort. Why not have Congress rescind those unspent funds and restore them to the treasury? Does that solve any of the debt limit problem? I’ve not heard this brought up anywhere.

  30. El Gordo Avatar

    As to the debt ceiling, it’s my understanding that there is almost half (or more or less) of the almost $1 trillion in TARP and stimulus funds remaining unspent at this time – and that Obama intends to hold this in reserve for the 2012 election effort. Why not have Congress rescind those unspent funds and restore them to the treasury? Does that solve any of the debt limit problem? I’ve not heard this brought up anywhere.

  31. El Gordo Avatar

    Why not have Congress rescind those unspent funds and restore them to the treasury? Does that solve any of the debt limit problem?

    It would help a lot, but to think that it would happen would require a leap of faith in believing that our political class is actually serious about addressing our national debt in any meaningful way. This is where my pessimism comes into play. If they were serious about it, there would be all manner of media histrionics about politicians “slashing” SS, Medicare and Medicaid. I ain’t holding my breath.

  32. Dude42 Avatar

    Why not have Congress rescind those unspent funds and restore them to the treasury? Does that solve any of the debt limit problem?

    It would help a lot, but to think that it would happen would require a leap of faith in believing that our political class is actually serious about addressing our national debt in any meaningful way. This is where my pessimism comes into play. If they were serious about it, there would be all manner of media histrionics about politicians “slashing” SS, Medicare and Medicaid. I ain’t holding my breath.

  33. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I have come to a stunning realization.
    For the past six years, we’ve been lectured to by some Republican Party Activists that the WE were the problem because we weren’t active in poltics or the Republican Party. I am pdersonally and especially reminded of those on LST who were quick to make the suggestion and accusation.
    Now that we ARE active, criticisms against us are being leveled by those very same people.
    It would seem that we HAVE discovered where the true problem is—-and its not the fact that we weren’t active.
    It was with the people who were active all that time who were the problem—they were just looking for a place to lay the blame.
    What utter hypocrites.
    Shame on you.

  34. Tedtam Avatar

    I think that was a rather substantial b-slap by Sarge.

  35. Tedtam Avatar

    I think that was a rather substantial b-slap by Sarge.

  36. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    18 Tedtam says:
    January 6, 2011 at 11:08 am
    I think that was a rather substantial b-slap by Sarge.

    I could go a bit farther, but I won’t.

    But there does seem to be this general feeling among Establishment Republicans that they are shocked and surprised by what we’re saying, what we’re dloing, and the way we do and say them.

    What in the frik were they expecting us to do and say and how we were going to do and say things when we leveled our complaints and they told us that we needed to get involved?

    Now it seems they don’t want our support or our voices.

    The mantra of the Republican Party these days is

    “Thanks for the support, now STFU you nutcases. You’re only a small sub-set of a small sub-set anyway.”

    Haven’t these terdnozzles realized that they lose without us and win big when they have our support?

  37. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    18 Tedtam says:
    January 6, 2011 at 11:08 am
    I think that was a rather substantial b-slap by Sarge.

    I could go a bit farther, but I won’t.
    But there does seem to be this general feeling among Establishment Republicans that they are shocked and surprised by what we’re saying, what we’re dloing, and the way we do and say them.
    What in the frik were they expecting us to do and say and how we were going to do and say things when we leveled our complaints and they told us that we needed to get involved?
    Now it seems they don’t want our support or our voices.
    The mantra of the Republican Party these days is
    “Thanks for the support, now STFU you nutcases. You’re only a small sub-set of a small sub-set anyway.”
    Haven’t these terdnozzles realized that they lose without us and win big when they have our support?

  38. Hamous Avatar

    #14 TT: While I do not like to use that eeeeeeevil N word, there are times when it is the best description. That one group can use a particular word with impunity, and the counterpart, cracker, while all others must walk on the pc eggshells so as not to offend; we no longer have “equal protection under the law”. The 14th amendment says that you can not target one group of people with a law and not have it apply equally to everyone else.

    14th amendment, section one: . . . . No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    I think that a reasonably prudent person would say that if the 1st amendment protects a particular class (negro race) of person to use a particular word in free speech then that same protection should be extended to all classes/races.

    Political Correctness is nothing more than the left making the rules to oppress the conservative/correct side of the spectrum.

  39. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #14 TT: While I do not like to use that eeeeeeevil N word, there are times when it is the best description. That one group can use a particular word with impunity, and the counterpart, cracker, while all others must walk on the pc eggshells so as not to offend; we no longer have “equal protection under the law”. The 14th amendment says that you can not target one group of people with a law and not have it apply equally to everyone else.

    14th amendment, section one: . . . . No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    I think that a reasonably prudent person would say that if the 1st amendment protects a particular class (negro race) of person to use a particular word in free speech then that same protection should be extended to all classes/races.
    Political Correctness is nothing more than the left making the rules to oppress the conservative/correct side of the spectrum.

  40. Katfish Avatar

    Two people get married. Husband decides he’s a woman trapped in man’s body. Wife decides she’s a man trapped in a woman’s body.

    Before the husband underwent the addadictomy operation, she had a kid. The kid (who has to have been terribly confused now that he has a father and a “father”) decides he’s trapped in the wrong body, so he decides to become a tranny as well.

    The good news, I suppose, is they are all now out of the gene pool.

  41. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Two people get married. Husband decides he’s a woman trapped in man’s body. Wife decides she’s a man trapped in a woman’s body.
    Before the husband underwent the addadictomy operation, she had a kid. The kid (who has to have been terribly confused now that he has a father and a “father”) decides he’s trapped in the wrong body, so he decides to become a tranny as well.
    The good news, I suppose, is they are all now out of the gene pool.

  42. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    #19 Sarge

    What in the frik were they expecting us to do and say and how we were going to do and say things when we leveled our complaints and they told us that we needed to get involved?

    After they got their plows cleaned in 2004/2006 because they were just DemonCRAP Light, they asked us to get involved,…PSST vote for me,…BUTT then sit down and SHUT UP!

  43. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #19 Sarge

    What in the frik were they expecting us to do and say and how we were going to do and say things when we leveled our complaints and they told us that we needed to get involved?

    After they got their plows cleaned in 2004/2006 because they were just DemonCRAP Light, they asked us to get involved,…PSST vote for me,…BUTT then sit down and SHUT UP!

  44. Hamous Avatar

    #21 Pryo: Just when I thought my family put the “fun” in dysfunctional??? What a bunch of whack jobs and you are correct that it is a good thing they are all out of the gene pool. Did you notice that the he turned she was a body builder before the chopping off of parts? I always wondered about that type of person; way too much time focused on self to be healthy.

  45. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #21 Pryo: Just when I thought my family put the “fun” in dysfunctional??? What a bunch of whack jobs and you are correct that it is a good thing they are all out of the gene pool. Did you notice that the he turned she was a body builder before the chopping off of parts? I always wondered about that type of person; way too much time focused on self to be healthy.

  46. Katfish Avatar

    It’s now socially acceptable to the food nazis to eat beef again, but only certain kinds.

  47. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    It’s now socially acceptable to the food nazis to eat beef again, but only certain kinds.

  48. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    BTW.

    If anyone thinks my comment was generated by this.

    They are wrong.

    It was a comment made on another blog by another individual whom we all know, and would be surprised at what was said about someone in another part of the state and his traveling across the state in support of Republican Candidates.

  49. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    BTW.
    If anyone thinks my comment was generated by this.
    They are wrong.
    It was a comment made on another blog by another individual whom we all know, and would be surprised at what was said about someone in another part of the state and his traveling across the state in support of Republican Candidates.

  50. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    But while we’re at it.

    This post

    Is one where the fella accuses those making the Ethics complaint as being “nutcases.”

    But this one.

    Is just an innocent passing along of information.

    Which forgot to mention that Paxton had nothing to do with the appropriation, and actually voted against the bill that had the appropriation in it.

    Like I said folks, we know who are really to blame here for the crappy Republican Party we’ve been being served for the past decade.

    And it ain’t the new folks coming in at thier frikkin invitation.

  51. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    But while we’re at it.
    This post
    Is one where the fella accuses those making the Ethics complaint as being “nutcases.”
    But this one.
    Is just an innocent passing along of information.
    Which forgot to mention that Paxton had nothing to do with the appropriation, and actually voted against the bill that had the appropriation in it.
    Like I said folks, we know who are really to blame here for the crappy Republican Party we’ve been being served for the past decade.
    And it ain’t the new folks coming in at thier frikkin invitation.

  52. Katfish Avatar

    Nathalia Buchan (nee Reksting) passed away at the ripe old age of 100. In those 100 years, she managed to pack in a lot more living than most people could have even thought of. She got an early start.

    She was still a toddler when her father, Col. Pyotr Reksting, roused the family in the middle of the Siberian night. “The Bolsheviks are at the next town. They’ve shot everyone. You have five minutes to pack.”

    Her family’s escape took them into China, where she learned several languages, attended university in Peking, and ran a bar in Shanghai, where she met her husband.

    The two survived a Japanese concentration camp, and moved to Bangkok when it was a very lawless city. Her husband left her alone (although armed with a tommy gun) for a brief time when he went off to broker some arms deals with Czechoslovakia. They had several businesses and moved to Hong Kong.

    Eventually, she wound up in Canada. She has a surprising connection with a young Yul Brynner as well.

  53. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Nathalia Buchan (nee Reksting) passed away at the ripe old age of 100. In those 100 years, she managed to pack in a lot more living than most people could have even thought of. She got an early start.

    She was still a toddler when her father, Col. Pyotr Reksting, roused the family in the middle of the Siberian night. “The Bolsheviks are at the next town. They’ve shot everyone. You have five minutes to pack.”

    Her family’s escape took them into China, where she learned several languages, attended university in Peking, and ran a bar in Shanghai, where she met her husband.
    The two survived a Japanese concentration camp, and moved to Bangkok when it was a very lawless city. Her husband left her alone (although armed with a tommy gun) for a brief time when he went off to broker some arms deals with Czechoslovakia. They had several businesses and moved to Hong Kong.
    Eventually, she wound up in Canada. She has a surprising connection with a young Yul Brynner as well.

  54. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Keep up the good work Sarge. Purify your party! Take no prisoners! Victory is at hand!

    I’m sure that a steady and consistent majority of all voters will soon come around to your absolutely correct and infallible viewpoints.

    /disclaimer shouldn’t be required.

  55. bob42 Avatar

    Keep up the good work Sarge. Purify your party! Take no prisoners! Victory is at hand!
    I’m sure that a steady and consistent majority of all voters will soon come around to your absolutely correct and infallible viewpoints.
    /disclaimer shouldn’t be required.

  56. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Keep up the good work Sarge. Purify your party! Take no prisoners! Victory is at hand!

    Bite me.

    I’m not trying to purify any dam thing.

    And, you freaking idiot, I agree with your position on gays in the military and civil unions.

    I alos agree that pot should be legalized, but not until we can make sure it won’t turn into the massive Big Government Program that it will surely become in the current environment.

    Your reading comprehension isn’t as good as it should be.

  57. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Keep up the good work Sarge. Purify your party! Take no prisoners! Victory is at hand!

    Bite me.
    I’m not trying to purify any dam thing.
    And, you freaking idiot, I agree with your position on gays in the military and civil unions.
    I alos agree that pot should be legalized, but not until we can make sure it won’t turn into the massive Big Government Program that it will surely become in the current environment.
    Your reading comprehension isn’t as good as it should be.

  58. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #30 Librul! 😉

  59. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    It looks like it’s finally over between a daughter and her BF. The first time they split, I made the mistake of voicing my opinion over it. Then they got back together. I’ve learned my lesson, and so has she:

    Well you can try to tell me how it is
    And try to justify everything you did
    But honey I’m no fool
    And I’ve been down this road
    Too many times with you
    I think it’s best you go.
    Well I got one thing left to say;
    That you can lay in the bed you’ve made.

    I’m still not getting involved.

  60. bob42 Avatar

    It looks like it’s finally over between a daughter and her BF. The first time they split, I made the mistake of voicing my opinion over it. Then they got back together. I’ve learned my lesson, and so has she:

    Well you can try to tell me how it is
    And try to justify everything you did
    But honey I’m no fool
    And I’ve been down this road
    Too many times with you
    I think it’s best you go.
    Well I got one thing left to say;
    That you can lay in the bed you’ve made.

    I’m still not getting involved.

  61. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I’m sure that a steady and consistent majority of all voters will soon come around to your absolutely correct and infallible viewpoints.

    I might remind you that a rather convincing number of them did just that this past November.

    But then again, you get my viewpoints all wrong all the time anyway.

  62. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    I’m sure that a steady and consistent majority of all voters will soon come around to your absolutely correct and infallible viewpoints.

    I might remind you that a rather convincing number of them did just that this past November.
    But then again, you get my viewpoints all wrong all the time anyway.

  63. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    And, apparently, those bonehead Establishment Republicans think they can win elections by purifying us out of their party and appealing to guys like Bobby.

  64. JohnBernardBooks Avatar
    JohnBernardBooks

    Dept of Homeland Security announces Airport Screening Results
    Year to date statistics on Airport screening from the Department of Homeland Security

    Terrorist Plots Discovered 0
    Transvestites 133
    Hernias 1,485
    Hemorrhoid Cases 3,172
    Enlarged Prostates 8,249
    Breast Implants 59,350
    Natural Blondes 3

    some airport humor

  65. JohnBernardBooks Avatar
    JohnBernardBooks

    Dept of Homeland Security announces Airport Screening Results
    Year to date statistics on Airport screening from the Department of Homeland Security
    Terrorist Plots Discovered 0
    Transvestites 133
    Hernias 1,485
    Hemorrhoid Cases 3,172
    Enlarged Prostates 8,249
    Breast Implants 59,350
    Natural Blondes 3
    some airport humor

  66. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Good afternoon all. A brisk start of 37 at 6 and 7, followed by a beautiful Sunrise and gradual warming to 62. A light NW breeze ruffles the banners on the front porch, and some high clouds creep in. A lovely day for outdoor stuff when lightly bundled up.

    Will take down the outdoor Christmas decorations tomorrow, Epiphany (12th Night) being today (depending on which calendar you use). The real evergreens are so dry and faded thanks to our abundance of dry winds the past couple of weeks, but most still have that lovely aroma. There’s something sad about putting the decorations away, things look so bare, and winter has just begun.

    Rush today describes the reading of the Constitution in the House, including some Dems joining in the reading, as waterboarding the liberals. For many of the surviving Dems it likely is. And the piece de resistance was a guest in the gallery hollering “Except Obama, except Obama” when the section on qualifications for President of the United States was read. Of course that person was admonished and escorted from the gallery. How tame compared to the Code Pinksters the libs so celebrated when they burst in on Congressional business and berated anything conservative. Can hardly wait for the Lame Stream Media spin–if they mention it at all.

    Forgot to mention that in yesterday’s Chron was an AARP insert trolling for members, 12 months only $16, and you get a free travel bag, plus a postage-paid reply envelope. Seems they’ve been finally bit in the behind by prostituting themselves to Obamacare in its inception, and the $$$ they drooled over isn’t showing up. Rather, it’s costing them. Poor babies. Send them a box of Kleenex.

  67. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Good afternoon all. A brisk start of 37 at 6 and 7, followed by a beautiful Sunrise and gradual warming to 62. A light NW breeze ruffles the banners on the front porch, and some high clouds creep in. A lovely day for outdoor stuff when lightly bundled up.
    Will take down the outdoor Christmas decorations tomorrow, Epiphany (12th Night) being today (depending on which calendar you use). The real evergreens are so dry and faded thanks to our abundance of dry winds the past couple of weeks, but most still have that lovely aroma. There’s something sad about putting the decorations away, things look so bare, and winter has just begun.
    Rush today describes the reading of the Constitution in the House, including some Dems joining in the reading, as waterboarding the liberals. For many of the surviving Dems it likely is. And the piece de resistance was a guest in the gallery hollering “Except Obama, except Obama” when the section on qualifications for President of the United States was read. Of course that person was admonished and escorted from the gallery. How tame compared to the Code Pinksters the libs so celebrated when they burst in on Congressional business and berated anything conservative. Can hardly wait for the Lame Stream Media spin–if they mention it at all.
    Forgot to mention that in yesterday’s Chron was an AARP insert trolling for members, 12 months only $16, and you get a free travel bag, plus a postage-paid reply envelope. Seems they’ve been finally bit in the behind by prostituting themselves to Obamacare in its inception, and the $$$ they drooled over isn’t showing up. Rather, it’s costing them. Poor babies. Send them a box of Kleenex.

  68. Dude42 Avatar

    “Thanks for the support, now STFU you nutcases. You’re only a small sub-set of a small sub-set anyway.”

    That really does seem to be the mindset. For all of that talk about the VMG and how much you need to win it to win elections, I’m not even convinced they have an accurate gauge of what the VMG is.

  69. meglettx Avatar

    VMG

    BBBBBBBBBBBBWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAA!

    Folks like Benzion tried to sell that PC crap after the Repukes got swept out last time.

  70. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    VMG
    BBBBBBBBBBBBWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAA!
    Folks like Benzion tried to sell that PC crap after the Repukes got swept out last time.

  71. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    That really does seem to be the mindset. For all of that talk about the VMG and how much you need to win it to win elections, I’m not even convinced they have an accurate gauge of what the VMG is.

    Sure they do.
    You’ve seen what a fan Bobby is.
    Of course, Bobby will never vote for them.
    But folks like him will absolutely answer poll questions to make it look like they might if the Pubbies just do a few things——

  72. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    GENUINE CONSERVATISM works and wins every time it is tried. This wannabee, half-donkeyed, pseudo, compassionate, kind-of-sort-of, conservatism always yields utter failure in elections and in the outcome of governance.

  73. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    GENUINE CONSERVATISM works and wins every time it is tried. This wannabee, half-donkeyed, pseudo, compassionate, kind-of-sort-of, conservatism always yields utter failure in elections and in the outcome of governance.

    Worse than that, it results in real harm to the Nation.
    And gets far left community organizers with no experience elected.

  74. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #33 Sarge

    you get my viewpoints all wrong all the time anyway

    I haven’t been lurking here as long as most of you, but I do know that no one really cares what Bob thinks about anything. At best, he is occasionally amusing.

  75. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #33 Sarge

    you get my viewpoints all wrong all the time anyway

    I haven’t been lurking here as long as most of you, but I do know that no one really cares what Bob thinks about anything. At best, he is occasionally amusing.

  76. meglettx Avatar

    Sounds like mharper69 has found the kryptonite to smilingbob420’s babe magnetism.

    Here’s ol’ smilingbob420:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn36KqWoi7s

  77. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    Sounds like mharper69 has found the kryptonite to smilingbob420’s babe magnetism.
    Here’s ol’ smilingbob420:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn36KqWoi7s

  78. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #42 Bob knows this too.

    I do know that no one really cares what Bob thinks about anything. At best, he is occasionally amusing.

    And doesn’t care. Surprised?

  79. bob42 Avatar

    #42 Bob knows this too.

    I do know that no one really cares what Bob thinks about anything. At best, he is occasionally amusing.

    And doesn’t care. Surprised?

  80. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #44

    Surprised?

    Only by how erratic you have become lately. Not only that frothing-at-the-mouth thing the other day about the contrails/chemtrails, but then today a shabby attack on Sarge.

    Tsk, tsk. May be time for Tedtam to slap a little sense into Bobby Boy after all.

  81. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #44

    Surprised?

    Only by how erratic you have become lately. Not only that frothing-at-the-mouth thing the other day about the contrails/chemtrails, but then today a shabby attack on Sarge.
    Tsk, tsk. May be time for Tedtam to slap a little sense into Bobby Boy after all.

  82. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    I doubt that the power that be could ever politically sell the idea of a “debt default” but any good business person will tell you that you had better plan your bankruptcy and be in control of the proceeding rather than be forced involuntarily into bankruptcy and have the creditors control the agenda. We are as a nation, bankrupt. Our major cities and several states are broke, and you can bet your bippy the Feds will be calling on the healthy states, such as Texas, to bail them out. The only way to stop politicians from spending is to get them to stop – not slow down, not slow down the rate of spending growth, etc. – no, to actually get rid of some programs and stop. The question then becomes, who will cause them to stop spending. Will it be us, the taxpayers and citizens of this country, or will it be an outside force such as our creditors.

    The President has vowed to bring the country to its knees and try to create a third world economy, and has make good progress in that respect. The only way to stop the madness is to stop spending. The debt ceiling is fast approaching. Between now and then, Congress should decide which programs to continue, such as the military, social security, etc. and which ones must go such as Dept of Energy, Dept of Education, EPA, and the like. Let everyone know that once the debt ceiling is here, it’s all over, so it’s in everyone’s best interest to push that date forward as far as is possible.

    I heard KBH talking about saving $100 billion each of the next few years or some such nonsense – that’s not even a token savings. If this is what our leaders are talking in term of, it’s apparent that we need new leadership already. Either we tackle this debt problem ourselves and deal with it, or we learn how to beg for mercy in Chinese and how to properly hold our rice bowl for a handout.

  83. El Gordo Avatar

    I doubt that the power that be could ever politically sell the idea of a “debt default” but any good business person will tell you that you had better plan your bankruptcy and be in control of the proceeding rather than be forced involuntarily into bankruptcy and have the creditors control the agenda. We are as a nation, bankrupt. Our major cities and several states are broke, and you can bet your bippy the Feds will be calling on the healthy states, such as Texas, to bail them out. The only way to stop politicians from spending is to get them to stop – not slow down, not slow down the rate of spending growth, etc. – no, to actually get rid of some programs and stop. The question then becomes, who will cause them to stop spending. Will it be us, the taxpayers and citizens of this country, or will it be an outside force such as our creditors.
    The President has vowed to bring the country to its knees and try to create a third world economy, and has make good progress in that respect. The only way to stop the madness is to stop spending. The debt ceiling is fast approaching. Between now and then, Congress should decide which programs to continue, such as the military, social security, etc. and which ones must go such as Dept of Energy, Dept of Education, EPA, and the like. Let everyone know that once the debt ceiling is here, it’s all over, so it’s in everyone’s best interest to push that date forward as far as is possible.
    I heard KBH talking about saving $100 billion each of the next few years or some such nonsense – that’s not even a token savings. If this is what our leaders are talking in term of, it’s apparent that we need new leadership already. Either we tackle this debt problem ourselves and deal with it, or we learn how to beg for mercy in Chinese and how to properly hold our rice bowl for a handout.

  84. Katfish Avatar

    Heh heh heh.

    He said “bippy”

  85. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Heh heh heh.
    He said “bippy”

  86. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Today’s T. S. Eliot quote:
    If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter”

  87. El Gordo Avatar

    Today’s T. S. Eliot quote:
    If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter”

  88. phil Avatar
    phil

    How every MessyNBC anchor feels about Ochumma . Especially that middle-aged Chucky Chris Matthews.

  89. phil Avatar
    phil

    How every MessyNBC anchor feels about Ochumma . Especially that middle-aged Chucky Chris Matthews.

  90. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Forget the incompotent/scared station worker. Forget how damning it’s been to society to grant minors so many rights of “protection” from grown ups. I would really like to know about among the two attackers and public audience enjoying the show would be kids who question their parents and authority and how many are grouped among those who stupify some by pronouncing “obey your parents” and “respect authority”. I know the answer isn’t obvious so sigh 🙁

  91. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Forget the incompotent/scared station worker. Forget how damning it’s been to society to grant minors so many rights of “protection” from grown ups. I would really like to know about among the two attackers and public audience enjoying the show would be kids who question their parents and authority and how many are grouped among those who stupify some by pronouncing “obey your parents” and “respect authority”. I know the answer isn’t obvious so sigh 🙁

  92. Tedtam Avatar

    This looks like a very cool ship. Means business. Made in the USA.

  93. Tedtam Avatar

    This looks like a very cool ship. Means business. Made in the USA.

  94. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    mharper #42;

    At best, he is occasionally amusing.

    You should have read bob’s posts before he decided to go forth and diligently merit Texpat’s coveted “24 karat a$$hole” award. Overall he was fun to read.

    Now after you anounce that noone really cares what bob shows his exceptional skill at stating the obvious about himself by saying he doesn’t care that noone cares. So, let’s see here:

    (a) Bob likes to read conservative posts because it provides him material to write pornographic satire.
    (b) Bob scrathed the CD in his voicebox and so consistantly declares his self-proclained self-evident truths about the war on drugs and gay marriage.
    (c) Bob is relentless in catagorizing conservatives here as manically phobic regarding gays and regarding upholding personal freedom in society.
    (d) Bob doesn’t care what effect this has on others.

    So let’s give bob a hardy “good job” salute. (I’m considering inserting a image of a hand raising the middle finger but I’ve decided against it. Believe me, that’s showing restraint).

  95. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    mharper #42;

    At best, he is occasionally amusing.

    You should have read bob’s posts before he decided to go forth and diligently merit Texpat’s coveted “24 karat a$$hole” award. Overall he was fun to read.
    Now after you anounce that noone really cares what bob shows his exceptional skill at stating the obvious about himself by saying he doesn’t care that noone cares. So, let’s see here:
    (a) Bob likes to read conservative posts because it provides him material to write pornographic satire.
    (b) Bob scrathed the CD in his voicebox and so consistantly declares his self-proclained self-evident truths about the war on drugs and gay marriage.
    (c) Bob is relentless in catagorizing conservatives here as manically phobic regarding gays and regarding upholding personal freedom in society.
    (d) Bob doesn’t care what effect this has on others.
    So let’s give bob a hardy “good job” salute. (I’m considering inserting a image of a hand raising the middle finger but I’ve decided against it. Believe me, that’s showing restraint).

  96. Tedtam Avatar

    #52 Darren

    I think it can be boiled to this:
    (a) Bob likes to tweak the noses of others
    (b) Bob at the best, pretends, at worst, actually, feels no remorse nor shame for his tweaking
    (c) Bob seems to enjoy the emotional response he generates, or thinks he generates

    He’s the new Shammy.

  97. Tedtam Avatar

    #52 Darren
    I think it can be boiled to this:
    (a) Bob likes to tweak the noses of others
    (b) Bob at the best, pretends, at worst, actually, feels no remorse nor shame for his tweaking
    (c) Bob seems to enjoy the emotional response he generates, or thinks he generates
    He’s the new Shammy.

  98. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Sometimes I actually miss Shammy. And sometimes I think a few of y’all do too.

    Just to be clear M42, I’m skeptical of everything for which there is insubstantial or questionable evidence. This includes conspiracy theories such as chemtrails, faked moon landings, and “True Conservatism.”

  99. bob42 Avatar

    Sometimes I actually miss Shammy. And sometimes I think a few of y’all do too.
    Just to be clear M42, I’m skeptical of everything for which there is insubstantial or questionable evidence. This includes conspiracy theories such as chemtrails, faked moon landings, and “True Conservatism.”

  100. Tedtam Avatar

    #54 bobjob

    And sometimes I think a few of y’all do too.

    Not me. At all.

  101. Tedtam Avatar

    #54 bobjob

    And sometimes I think a few of y’all do too.

    Not me. At all.

  102. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Just to be clear M42, I’m skeptical of everything for which there is insubstantial or questionable evidence. This includes conspiracy theories such as chemtrails, faked moon landings, and “True Conservatism.”

    What about “insubstantial or questionable evidence” on libertarianism?

  103. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Just to be clear M42, I’m skeptical of everything for which there is insubstantial or questionable evidence. This includes conspiracy theories such as chemtrails, faked moon landings, and “True Conservatism.”

    What about “insubstantial or questionable evidence” on libertarianism?

  104. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Tedtam #53;

    I’d say the correct option would no doubt be letter “b”.

    For the record, there were qualities I liked about Shammal but overall the peace and quiet without his his antagonizing ways lurking about is undeniably desirable.

  105. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Tedtam #53;
    I’d say the correct option would no doubt be letter “b”.
    For the record, there were qualities I liked about Shammal but overall the peace and quiet without his his antagonizing ways lurking about is undeniably desirable.

  106. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #56 What I’m arguing is that there is insubstantial and questionable evidence for “True Conservatism,” a term I’ve seen used here and on other conservative blogs. The term implies exclusivity of thought, perception, and philosophy.

    I’ve also argued on many a libertarian blog, but never have I seen the term “true libertarian” used.

  107. bob42 Avatar

    #56 What I’m arguing is that there is insubstantial and questionable evidence for “True Conservatism,” a term I’ve seen used here and on other conservative blogs. The term implies exclusivity of thought, perception, and philosophy.
    I’ve also argued on many a libertarian blog, but never have I seen the term “true libertarian” used.

  108. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Sometimes we need to expand our vocabularies, or at least expand our comprehensions of the meanings of words we hear batted about from time to time. Such as: bipartisan – that means giving up on principle and voting with the liberals (never the other way around); open minded – that means totally unprincipled and willing to go along to get along, can be easily bought off; just a couple of examples that come to mind.

  109. El Gordo Avatar

    Sometimes we need to expand our vocabularies, or at least expand our comprehensions of the meanings of words we hear batted about from time to time. Such as: bipartisan – that means giving up on principle and voting with the liberals (never the other way around); open minded – that means totally unprincipled and willing to go along to get along, can be easily bought off; just a couple of examples that come to mind.

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