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  1. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    OK The IDIOTS are in charge of the asylum; Lunchbox mix-up leads to charges for Sanford teen.
    Mornin’ Gang

  2. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    OK The IDIOTS are in charge of the asylum; Lunchbox mix-up leads to charges for Sanford teen.
    Mornin’ Gang

  3. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    G’Morning all

    Daughter Reesa was supposed to fly back to New York Tuesday. She is now scheduled on a flight Jan. 3rd. It is a giant mess up there according to her room mate.

  4. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    G’Morning all

    Daughter Reesa was supposed to fly back to New York Tuesday. She is now scheduled on a flight Jan. 3rd. It is a giant mess up there according to her room mate.

  5. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    BAGHDAD – Three suicide bombers attacked Iraq’s federal police headquarters in Mosul on Wednesday, leveling the building and killing the top police commander in the northern city, a prominent figure who had escaped at least five previous assassination attempts, officials said.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ml_iraq;_ylt=Aqe4bI1Dxv1fkHl7hz8hPfes0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTM3YW1oMmo5BGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAxMjI5L21sX2lyYXEEY2NvZGUDbW9zdHBvcHVsYXIEY3BvcwMyBHBvcwM3BHB0A2hvbWVfY29rZQRzZWMDeW5fdG9wX3N0b3J5BHNsawNzdWljaWRlYm9tYmU-

    TSA will now:

    A Take knitting needles from grandmas going to the police station
    B Prohibit bottled water in police stations
    C Scope and grope everyone going in a police station, except those wearing arabic garb.
    D All of the above.

  6. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    BAGHDAD – Three suicide bombers attacked Iraq’s federal police headquarters in Mosul on Wednesday, leveling the building and killing the top police commander in the northern city, a prominent figure who had escaped at least five previous assassination attempts, officials said.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ml_iraq;_ylt=Aqe4bI1Dxv1fkHl7hz8hPfes0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTM3YW1oMmo5BGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAxMjI5L21sX2lyYXEEY2NvZGUDbW9zdHBvcHVsYXIEY3BvcwMyBHBvcwM3BHB0A2hvbWVfY29rZQRzZWMDeW5fdG9wX3N0b3J5BHNsawNzdWljaWRlYm9tYmU-

    TSA will now:

    A Take knitting needles from grandmas going to the police station
    B Prohibit bottled water in police stations
    C Scope and grope everyone going in a police station, except those wearing arabic garb.
    D All of the above.

  7. Dooood Avatar

    Yesterday’s #91:

    #83. Were you listening to the program? If not, it had exactly nothing to do with Rick Perry or Dann Patrick.

    Geez.

    Uh, no, I wasn’t. I’m 1,800 miles from Houston and listen on extremely rare occasions via the internet since I’m usually too busy at that time of day.

    Since we don’t have a glossary for all your nicknames, expect assumptions and mistakes to be made regarding your comments.

    I still maintain there is and can be no “fix” for the Republican presidential nominee in 2012. Nobody knows at this point who the nominee will be.

  8. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    Yesterday’s #91:

    #83. Were you listening to the program? If not, it had exactly nothing to do with Rick Perry or Dann Patrick.

    Geez.

    Uh, no, I wasn’t. I’m 1,800 miles from Houston and listen on extremely rare occasions via the internet since I’m usually too busy at that time of day.

    Since we don’t have a glossary for all your nicknames, expect assumptions and mistakes to be made regarding your comments.

    I still maintain there is and can be no “fix” for the Republican presidential nominee in 2012. Nobody knows at this point who the nominee will be.

  9. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    COPENHAGEN, Denmark – Denmark’s intelligence service on Wednesday arrested four people suspected of planning an “imminent” terror attack against a newspaper that printed the controversial Prophet Muhammad cartoons.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/eu_denmark_terror_arrests;_ylt=AqWsBTlUfnpfHwQuiUuQj8as0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTN0bm11cG82BGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAxMjI5L2V1X2Rlbm1hcmtfdG
    Vycm9yX2FycmVzdHMEY2NvZGUDbW9zdHBvcHVsYXIEY3BvcwM3BHBvcwM0BHB0A2hvbWVfY29rZQRzZWMDeW5faGVhZGxpbmVfbGlzdARzbGsDZGVubWFya2FycmVz

    TSA will now:

    A Take knitting needles from grandmas going to the newspaper building
    B Prohibit bottled water in newspaper buildings
    C Scope and grope everyone going in a newspaper building, except those wearing arabic garb.
    D All of the above.

  10. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    COPENHAGEN, Denmark – Denmark’s intelligence service on Wednesday arrested four people suspected of planning an “imminent” terror attack against a newspaper that printed the controversial Prophet Muhammad cartoons.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/eu_denmark_terror_arrests;_ylt=AqWsBTlUfnpfHwQuiUuQj8as0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTN0bm11cG82BGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAxMjI5L2V1X2Rlbm1hcmtfdG
    Vycm9yX2FycmVzdHMEY2NvZGUDbW9zdHBvcHVsYXIEY3BvcwM3BHBvcwM0BHB0A2hvbWVfY29rZQRzZWMDeW5faGVhZGxpbmVfbGlzdARzbGsDZGVubWFya2FycmVz

    TSA will now:

    A Take knitting needles from grandmas going to the newspaper building
    B Prohibit bottled water in newspaper buildings
    C Scope and grope everyone going in a newspaper building, except those wearing arabic garb.
    D All of the above.

  11. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    As Gomer says, “Surprise, surprise, surprise.”

    By the way They are not “bribes”, The arabic word is baksheesh.

    KABUL—U.S. officials in Afghanistan have spent thousands of hours over the past few years charting what they call “Malign Actor Networks”—webs of connections between members of President Hamid Karzai’s family, businessmen, corrupt officials, drug traffickers and Taliban commanders.
    Using intelligence drawn in part from informants and a powerful wiretapping system, these officials say they have found an economic and political order—underwritten by billions of dollars in aid, reconstruction and logistics funds from the West—that is undermining the Afghan government from within and aiding a Taliban insurgency that is trying to topple it from without.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203513204576047734260414722.html?mod=WSJ_hp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsSecond

  12. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    As Gomer says, “Surprise, surprise, surprise.”

    By the way They are not “bribes”, The arabic word is baksheesh.

    KABUL—U.S. officials in Afghanistan have spent thousands of hours over the past few years charting what they call “Malign Actor Networks”—webs of connections between members of President Hamid Karzai’s family, businessmen, corrupt officials, drug traffickers and Taliban commanders.
    Using intelligence drawn in part from informants and a powerful wiretapping system, these officials say they have found an economic and political order—underwritten by billions of dollars in aid, reconstruction and logistics funds from the West—that is undermining the Afghan government from within and aiding a Taliban insurgency that is trying to topple it from without.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203513204576047734260414722.html?mod=WSJ_hp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsSecond

  13. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Government speak: rocket boosters weighing more than 300,000 pounds “have an explosive force upon surface impact that is sufficient to exceed the accepted overpressure threshhold of physiological damage for exposed personnel.”

    Translation: If a 300,000-pound booster rocket falls on someone, they will die.

  14. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Government speak: rocket boosters weighing more than 300,000 pounds “have an explosive force upon surface impact that is sufficient to exceed the accepted overpressure threshhold of physiological damage for exposed personnel.”

    Translation: If a 300,000-pound booster rocket falls on someone, they will die.

  15. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Obama is in Honolulu with Michelle, relaxin in paradise while the nation endures blizzards, flooding and flight delays

    The vacation was put together by the first family’s new public relations firm of Lohan and Sheen.

  16. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Obama is in Honolulu with Michelle, relaxin in paradise while the nation endures blizzards, flooding and flight delays

    The vacation was put together by the first family’s new public relations firm of Lohan and Sheen.

  17. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Good judgment comes from bad experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment.

    Never, under any circumstances, take a sleeping pill and a laxative on the same night.

  18. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Good judgment comes from bad experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment.

    Never, under any circumstances, take a sleeping pill and a laxative on the same night.

  19. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Wow! My own private blog. Sure is lonely here.

    BTW Super Dave, I don’t think anyone in the school system has any common sense anymore.

  20. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Wow! My own private blog. Sure is lonely here.

    BTW Super Dave, I don’t think anyone in the school system has any common sense anymore.

  21. Tedtam Avatar

    Well, life just got better. We posted something on Craigslist and got a slew of responses. I finally looked up keyboard shortcuts for my email client, and was able to progress through the list faster once I discovered the magic key that “nexted” me through my messages.

    I don’t know if life just got better or if I should kick myself for not looking it up sooner.

  22. Tedtam Avatar

    Well, life just got better. We posted something on Craigslist and got a slew of responses. I finally looked up keyboard shortcuts for my email client, and was able to progress through the list faster once I discovered the magic key that “nexted” me through my messages.

    I don’t know if life just got better or if I should kick myself for not looking it up sooner.

  23. Tedtam Avatar

    #10 OleTimer

    Your own blog? Or are you just talking to yourself?

    And is either one a sign of senility? 😉

  24. Tedtam Avatar

    #10 OleTimer

    Your own blog? Or are you just talking to yourself?

    And is either one a sign of senility? 😉

  25. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #1 – SD. The school girls problems are two fold: (1) she is obviously a good student, acts responsibly, does her homework, and sets an example for others to follow; and (2) she does not fall into a protected group such as black, hispanic, muslim or some other victim group (although she is female and she could be a lesbian). Claiming to be homosexual might be her only ticket out of this school nazi problem.

  26. El Gordo Avatar

    #1 – SD. The school girls problems are two fold: (1) she is obviously a good student, acts responsibly, does her homework, and sets an example for others to follow; and (2) she does not fall into a protected group such as black, hispanic, muslim or some other victim group (although she is female and she could be a lesbian). Claiming to be homosexual might be her only ticket out of this school nazi problem.

  27. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Thanks for coming to my rescue TT. I thought for a while that I had wandered off into the twilight zone.

  28. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Thanks for coming to my rescue TT. I thought for a while that I had wandered off into the twilight zone.

  29. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #13 El Gordo

    I remember when I was a teen, if when we got a new rifle or shotgun, we put in in the trunk and every one at school (including teachers and principals) would go out at noon to oooh and ahhhh over it.

  30. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #13 El Gordo

    I remember when I was a teen, if when we got a new rifle or shotgun, we put in in the trunk and every one at school (including teachers and principals) would go out at noon to oooh and ahhhh over it.

  31. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #10 OTL

    Sure is lonely here.

    I was reading ’em, but didn’t realize you needed a pep squad to keep you goin’ 🙂

  32. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #10 OTL

    Sure is lonely here.

    I was reading ’em, but didn’t realize you needed a pep squad to keep you goin’ 🙂

  33. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    2 OletimerLin says:
    December 29, 2010 at 8:50 am

    G’Morning all

    Daughter Reesa was supposed to fly back to New York Tuesday. She is now scheduled on a flight Jan. 3rd. It is a giant mess up there according to her room mate.

    Whaddya complainin about?

    Nanny Bloomberg is looking out for you folks by displaying the awesome power of government to do good for people.

    First New York City required restaurants to cut out trans fat. Then it made restaurant chains post calorie counts on their menus. Now it wants to protect people from another health scourge: salt.

    On Monday, the Bloomberg administration plans to unveil a broad new health initiative aimed at encouraging food manufacturers and restaurant chains across the country to curtail the amount of salt in their products.

    The plan, for which the city claims support from health agencies in other cities and states, sets a goal of reducing the amount of salt in packaged and restaurant food by 25 percent over the next five years.

    Dam ingrates are complaining about some other white crystalline substance that they seem to think affects their lives more.

    In still-snowbound sections of Queens, it’s beginning to look a lot like 1969 – and Mayor Bloomberg is starting to resemble the late Mayor John Lindsay.

    Survivors of the crippling ’60s blizzard and Lindsay’s memorably mishandled response say Bloomberg bungled this week’s 20-inch snowfall, conjuring some ugly memories.

    “It’s an honest comparison to 1969,” said Richard Hellenbrecht, 62, of Bellerose, who griped that his neighborhood had yet to see a snowplow – and put the blame squarely on the three-term mayor.

    “Unfortunately, he’s coming across, unlike years gone by, as being very defensive and giving short-shrift answers to reasonable questions.”

    Snow from this week’s blizzard still choked many streets in Astoria and Middle Village. Residents say some main thoroughfares are passable, but even heavily traveled side streets remain unplowed.

    For SOME stupid reason, folks seem to think that having the city pay attention to the fat and salt they eat is taking away from the attention they should be paying to keeping the streets open.

  34. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    2 OletimerLin says:
    December 29, 2010 at 8:50 am

    G’Morning all

    Daughter Reesa was supposed to fly back to New York Tuesday. She is now scheduled on a flight Jan. 3rd. It is a giant mess up there according to her room mate.

    Whaddya complainin about?

    Nanny Bloomberg is looking out for you folks by displaying the awesome power of government to do good for people.

    First New York City required restaurants to cut out trans fat. Then it made restaurant chains post calorie counts on their menus. Now it wants to protect people from another health scourge: salt.

    On Monday, the Bloomberg administration plans to unveil a broad new health initiative aimed at encouraging food manufacturers and restaurant chains across the country to curtail the amount of salt in their products.

    The plan, for which the city claims support from health agencies in other cities and states, sets a goal of reducing the amount of salt in packaged and restaurant food by 25 percent over the next five years.

    Dam ingrates are complaining about some other white crystalline substance that they seem to think affects their lives more.

    In still-snowbound sections of Queens, it’s beginning to look a lot like 1969 – and Mayor Bloomberg is starting to resemble the late Mayor John Lindsay.

    Survivors of the crippling ’60s blizzard and Lindsay’s memorably mishandled response say Bloomberg bungled this week’s 20-inch snowfall, conjuring some ugly memories.

    “It’s an honest comparison to 1969,” said Richard Hellenbrecht, 62, of Bellerose, who griped that his neighborhood had yet to see a snowplow – and put the blame squarely on the three-term mayor.

    “Unfortunately, he’s coming across, unlike years gone by, as being very defensive and giving short-shrift answers to reasonable questions.”

    Snow from this week’s blizzard still choked many streets in Astoria and Middle Village. Residents say some main thoroughfares are passable, but even heavily traveled side streets remain unplowed.

    For SOME stupid reason, folks seem to think that having the city pay attention to the fat and salt they eat is taking away from the attention they should be paying to keeping the streets open.

  35. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    mharper

    I don’t need a pep squad, I am egocentric enough to go for hours, it gives me time to work my twisted brain for pasting two random items from the news into either something nonsensical or acerbic. It also doesn’t look like I am trying to “hog the blog”

  36. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    mharper

    I don’t need a pep squad, I am egocentric enough to go for hours, it gives me time to work my twisted brain for pasting two random items from the news into either something nonsensical or acerbic. It also doesn’t look like I am trying to “hog the blog”

  37. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #11 TT

    “nexted” me through my messages

    Most email readers I’ve used have up/down arrows to speed you through the messages. That works best if your inbox isn’t full of impersonal “agenda websites” email that you really don’t want to read, like my hotmail is.

  38. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #11 TT

    “nexted” me through my messages

    Most email readers I’ve used have up/down arrows to speed you through the messages. That works best if your inbox isn’t full of impersonal “agenda websites” email that you really don’t want to read, like my hotmail is.

  39. Hamous Avatar

    #15 Geezer: When I was in High School, 1975-78, every time I got a new knife I would pull it from my pocket and show the coaches, who would oooh and ahhh. Back then, reasonable people made reasonable decisions and behaved reasonably. It appears that the nannystater brain-dead, one size fits all, zero tolerance d!psh!ts running our “educational” establishment have lost all sense of reason.

  40. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #15 Geezer: When I was in High School, 1975-78, every time I got a new knife I would pull it from my pocket and show the coaches, who would oooh and ahhh. Back then, reasonable people made reasonable decisions and behaved reasonably. It appears that the nannystater brain-dead, one size fits all, zero tolerance d!psh!ts running our “educational” establishment have lost all sense of reason.

  41. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #18 OTL

    look like I am trying to “hog the blog”

    Who cares how it looks? If you’re on a roll, go for it!

  42. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #18 OTL

    look like I am trying to “hog the blog”

    Who cares how it looks? If you’re on a roll, go for it!

  43. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #20 Crusher

    lost all sense of reason

    It’s all about Faaaaiiirrrness, you know. Wouldn’t be fair to have one kid allowed to have a knife when another kid who is clearly a gang-banger can’t have a knife…

  44. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #20 Crusher

    lost all sense of reason

    It’s all about Faaaaiiirrrness, you know. Wouldn’t be fair to have one kid allowed to have a knife when another kid who is clearly a gang-banger can’t have a knife…

  45. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #17 Sarge

    Whaddya complainin about?

    Who’s complaining? From Ronald McDonald “I’m lovin it”

    protect people from another health scourge: salt.

    When we visited her a coupla months ago, they were already pushing that. Restruants were cutting back on the cooking salt and putting over sized salt shakers on the table so they didn’t have to refill every two hours.

    attention they should be paying to keeping the streets open.

    New Yorkers have no common sense. If the city has 1000 snowplows and 10,000 miles of streets, they can’t understand why they can’t have all of them cleared in 30 minutes.

  46. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #17 Sarge

    Whaddya complainin about?

    Who’s complaining? From Ronald McDonald “I’m lovin it”

    protect people from another health scourge: salt.

    When we visited her a coupla months ago, they were already pushing that. Restruants were cutting back on the cooking salt and putting over sized salt shakers on the table so they didn’t have to refill every two hours.

    attention they should be paying to keeping the streets open.

    New Yorkers have no common sense. If the city has 1000 snowplows and 10,000 miles of streets, they can’t understand why they can’t have all of them cleared in 30 minutes.

  47. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    When I was in high school, we had a democrat President who thought lowering taxes would improve the economy and result in more revenues to the government. He also told the Russians to get their missiles out of Cuba and did not like Castro. And did I mention that he claimed to be a Democrat – I doubt they would stand for the likes of JFK today in that party.

  48. El Gordo Avatar

    When I was in high school, we had a democrat President who thought lowering taxes would improve the economy and result in more revenues to the government. He also told the Russians to get their missiles out of Cuba and did not like Castro. And did I mention that he claimed to be a Democrat – I doubt they would stand for the likes of JFK today in that party.

  49. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    My point above was that it’s not just the schools that have lost the ability to reason and apply common sense.

  50. El Gordo Avatar

    My point above was that it’s not just the schools that have lost the ability to reason and apply common sense.

  51. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    #4
    Texpat

    I still maintain there is and can be no “fix” for the Republican presidential nominee in 2012. Nobody knows at this point who the nominee will be.

    We know they are, or soon will be, silently building infrastructure all around the country for their preferred candidate, whoever that is. They did that with Rudy last election and it prolly began about this point in the cycle. To your point, that did not work out, but the ground forces were there for him had he built any early traction. I don’t trust them and they need to stay out of it, they do not have my, or the new movement’s interest at heart.

    The real problem is our primary system and no one is discussing it. Soon it will be too late. We need to have one election day or two big ones in one month period. I am sick of living in the thoroughbred conservative state and my vote does not count cause some freaking corn farmer picked my nominee.

    There, good mornin’ all, I’m off the rest of the week! 😀

  52. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #4
    Texpat

    I still maintain there is and can be no “fix” for the Republican presidential nominee in 2012. Nobody knows at this point who the nominee will be.

    We know they are, or soon will be, silently building infrastructure all around the country for their preferred candidate, whoever that is. They did that with Rudy last election and it prolly began about this point in the cycle. To your point, that did not work out, but the ground forces were there for him had he built any early traction. I don’t trust them and they need to stay out of it, they do not have my, or the new movement’s interest at heart.

    The real problem is our primary system and no one is discussing it. Soon it will be too late. We need to have one election day or two big ones in one month period. I am sick of living in the thoroughbred conservative state and my vote does not count cause some freaking corn farmer picked my nominee.

    There, good mornin’ all, I’m off the rest of the week! 😀

  53. Katfish Avatar

    Great idea for a Constitutional amendment:

    An increase in the federal debt requires approval from a majority of the legislatures of the separate States.

    I’d kick it up to two-thirds, but that’s just me.

  54. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Great idea for a Constitutional amendment:

    An increase in the federal debt requires approval from a majority of the legislatures of the separate States.

    I’d kick it up to two-thirds, but that’s just me.

  55. Katfish Avatar

    This should be interesting:

    Exactly one month after Chris Liu posted videos to YouTube showing what he calls “critical security flaws,” the new chairman of a House subcommittee said he will call Transporation Security Administration (TSA) leaders to Capitol Hill for an explanation.
    .
    The videos, captured by Liu’s cell phone camera, show ground crews entering and exiting secure areas while never going through a screening process.

  56. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    This should be interesting:

    Exactly one month after Chris Liu posted videos to YouTube showing what he calls “critical security flaws,” the new chairman of a House subcommittee said he will call Transporation Security Administration (TSA) leaders to Capitol Hill for an explanation.
    .
    The videos, captured by Liu’s cell phone camera, show ground crews entering and exiting secure areas while never going through a screening process.

  57. meglettx Avatar

    #26. GJT – I’m with you.

    You could hear it yesterday on KSEV. They were rolling out the red carpet for a moderate. Spreadin’ the fear of another 3M election victory. I’ve seen it all before and my memory still works.

    Dems – bad, bbaadd, bbbaaaddd

    Repukes – good

    How many of you folks will buy it?

  58. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    #26. GJT – I’m with you.

    You could hear it yesterday on KSEV. They were rolling out the red carpet for a moderate. Spreadin’ the fear of another 3M election victory. I’ve seen it all before and my memory still works.

    Dems – bad, bbaadd, bbbaaaddd

    Repukes – good

    How many of you folks will buy it?

  59. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Lawrence

    I’m not ready for third party yet, I see real possibility for change in the GOP. This is their last shot though, another McCain and it’s over.

  60. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Lawrence

    I’m not ready for third party yet, I see real possibility for change in the GOP. This is their last shot though, another McCain and it’s over.

  61. meglettx Avatar

    Huckabee and Gingrich need to stand down. Romney is only one notch better. None of them are true conservatives. Not one of them would be better than McCain. If the Repuke Party puts one of these three up, I predict a complete rebellion by conservatives and the spawning of a watershed political event, perhaps a viable third party.

  62. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    Huckabee and Gingrich need to stand down. Romney is only one notch better. None of them are true conservatives. Not one of them would be better than McCain. If the Repuke Party puts one of these three up, I predict a complete rebellion by conservatives and the spawning of a watershed political event, perhaps a viable third party.

  63. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    #29
    WB

    I’ve worked on equipment a few times all around the airliners and baggage. I had to be escorted in by the customer who had security clearance and they had to stay with me, but my person or truck was never checked. I always chuckled looking up at the people looking out the windows in the gate areas that had to go thru all the security and there I was, standing next to all their luggage and no one watching.

    This was before the latest rounds of TSA foolishness, but I’d bet it’s not much different now.

  64. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #29
    WB

    I’ve worked on equipment a few times all around the airliners and baggage. I had to be escorted in by the customer who had security clearance and they had to stay with me, but my person or truck was never checked. I always chuckled looking up at the people looking out the windows in the gate areas that had to go thru all the security and there I was, standing next to all their luggage and no one watching.

    This was before the latest rounds of TSA foolishness, but I’d bet it’s not much different now.

  65. Hamous Avatar

    #26 GJT: I have a similar idea: Have 4 super tuesdays, 1 month apart, the first being worth 10%, 2nd 20%, 3rd 30%, 4th 40%. That way those states at the end still have the biggest say; the ones at the beginning will tend to weed out the weaker candidates. Some Southern states MUST BE in the first 2 so we don’t get “nor-eastered” with terds like McLame or Romney. The current way the primaries are run are “gerrymandered” to favor the Northeast Establishment terds that got us into the mess we are in now.

  66. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #26 GJT: I have a similar idea: Have 4 super tuesdays, 1 month apart, the first being worth 10%, 2nd 20%, 3rd 30%, 4th 40%. That way those states at the end still have the biggest say; the ones at the beginning will tend to weed out the weaker candidates. Some Southern states MUST BE in the first 2 so we don’t get “nor-eastered” with terds like McLame or Romney. The current way the primaries are run are “gerrymandered” to favor the Northeast Establishment terds that got us into the mess we are in now.

  67. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Well, good morning again. Guess I closed the door on yesterday’s OC. We are still in Murkwood over here on the north bank of the Brazos at Richmond, yard lights still on, also in a mild thunderstorm, meaning occasional lightning flashes and slow kettle drum rolls. Steady rain since about 9 am, nothing heavy, and this should alleviate most worries about fireworks and fires on New Year’s Eve. We are out in the county, and they are legal. Just shy of half an inch so far, puddles in the usual low spots are growing. The mares came in shortly after the lightning and thunder moved closer and are in for the day, likely bored but dry.

    Bring on January 5th.

  68. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Well, good morning again. Guess I closed the door on yesterday’s OC. We are still in Murkwood over here on the north bank of the Brazos at Richmond, yard lights still on, also in a mild thunderstorm, meaning occasional lightning flashes and slow kettle drum rolls. Steady rain since about 9 am, nothing heavy, and this should alleviate most worries about fireworks and fires on New Year’s Eve. We are out in the county, and they are legal. Just shy of half an inch so far, puddles in the usual low spots are growing. The mares came in shortly after the lightning and thunder moved closer and are in for the day, likely bored but dry.

    Bring on January 5th.

  69. Hamous Avatar

    Romney may look good on TV and he may be a successful business man BUT he is still a big gov’t nannystate meddling terd-nozzle. Just look at the disaster of romneycare in Taxachussets. I say we need someone more in the line of Herman Cain or me.

  70. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    Romney may look good on TV and he may be a successful business man BUT he is still a big gov’t nannystate meddling terd-nozzle. Just look at the disaster of romneycare in Taxachussets. I say we need someone more in the line of Herman Cain or me.

  71. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #27 Pyro

    Takes two willing participants to form an engaged couple…

  72. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #27 Pyro

    Takes two willing participants to form an engaged couple…

  73. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Well I talked to Lil’ Sister this morning and She told me that She got her CARE Package. They don’t have Zapps in South Alabama so every now and again I send her a box. I got Cajun Crawtator, Hotter N Hot Jalapeno, Mesquite Bar-B-Que, Cajun Dill, Sweet Taters, Spicy Creole Tomato, Voodoo, and Cracked Pepper & Sea Salt.
    Their newest flavor is Voodoo and it came about by Accident.
    😀

  74. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Well I talked to Lil’ Sister this morning and She told me that She got her CARE Package. They don’t have Zapps in South Alabama so every now and again I send her a box. I got Cajun Crawtator, Hotter N Hot Jalapeno, Mesquite Bar-B-Que, Cajun Dill, Sweet Taters, Spicy Creole Tomato, Voodoo, and Cracked Pepper & Sea Salt.
    Their newest flavor is Voodoo and it came about by Accident.
    😀

  75. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Palin/O’Donnell 2012!

    A “dream” ticket come true!

  76. bob42 Avatar

    Palin/O’Donnell 2012!

    A “dream” ticket come true!

  77. Katfish Avatar

    #38 mh42
    True. I’m guessing one or more of the following apply:
    1. She’s not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree;
    2. She’s in it for the money;
    3. Hef’s got enough Viagra, &c. floating around in his system, plus lots of other “implements” he/she can apply to the task at hand to consummate the marriage (**shudder**);
    4. Hef’s got a love muscle that rivals that of a donkey;
    5. They’ll have “people” who can step in when required.

  78. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #38 mh42
    True. I’m guessing one or more of the following apply:
    1. She’s not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree;
    2. She’s in it for the money;
    3. Hef’s got enough Viagra, &c. floating around in his system, plus lots of other “implements” he/she can apply to the task at hand to consummate the marriage (**shudder**);
    4. Hef’s got a love muscle that rivals that of a donkey;
    5. They’ll have “people” who can step in when required.

  79. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    The test in 2012 will be if the GOP continues with it’s “next in line” model of picking it’s candidate. I suppose Romney would be that person. But I don’t think you can underestimate the “Tea Party” effect on the primary system. Several entrenched republicans can attest to that now. That’s why the old guard nanny staters in the party are steeping themselves in tea leaves.

    I think GJT’s suggestion of a “super primary” would be a positive step (and decrease drastically the amount of money required for a campaign). I’m now firmly in favor of congressional term limits. I’ve gone back and forth on this for years but I’m now convinced that politics is an infection that is only cured by complete isolation from any form of government employment.

    But…and here’s where I differ from Lowrents…if Mitt Romney is the nominee in 2012 I will vote for him. Better to have a pseudo-conservative as president than a neo-Marxist. I don’t think our country can stand another four years of this seditionist.

  80. Hamous Avatar

    The test in 2012 will be if the GOP continues with it’s “next in line” model of picking it’s candidate. I suppose Romney would be that person. But I don’t think you can underestimate the “Tea Party” effect on the primary system. Several entrenched republicans can attest to that now. That’s why the old guard nanny staters in the party are steeping themselves in tea leaves.

    I think GJT’s suggestion of a “super primary” would be a positive step (and decrease drastically the amount of money required for a campaign). I’m now firmly in favor of congressional term limits. I’ve gone back and forth on this for years but I’m now convinced that politics is an infection that is only cured by complete isolation from any form of government employment.

    But…and here’s where I differ from Lowrents…if Mitt Romney is the nominee in 2012 I will vote for him. Better to have a pseudo-conservative as president than a neo-Marxist. I don’t think our country can stand another four years of this seditionist.

  81. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Could a write-in vote for president work? I mean if we end up with a “terd-nozzle” ™ GOP candidate…

    If that foul Lisa Murkowsky could mobilize the Alaska write-ins, couldn’t there be enough coordination via the internet to make it happen for national office?

    ‘Course this assumes there would be consensus in the Tea Party and conservative Republicans… an untried proposition.

  82. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Could a write-in vote for president work? I mean if we end up with a “terd-nozzle” ™ GOP candidate…

    If that foul Lisa Murkowsky could mobilize the Alaska write-ins, couldn’t there be enough coordination via the internet to make it happen for national office?

    ‘Course this assumes there would be consensus in the Tea Party and conservative Republicans… an untried proposition.

  83. Katfish Avatar

    One of my relatives goes nuts in a Melbourne hotel with a tomahawk.

    Side note: It took lots of police officers to subdue him. I imagine if he tried the same stunt here, it would have taken one police officer, if only to write up the report of how many people managed to shoot the guy before he got there.

    “Ma’m, why did you shoot the man six times?”
    “I ran out of bullets.”

  84. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    One of my relatives goes nuts in a Melbourne hotel with a tomahawk.

    Side note: It took lots of police officers to subdue him. I imagine if he tried the same stunt here, it would have taken one police officer, if only to write up the report of how many people managed to shoot the guy before he got there.

    “Ma’m, why did you shoot the man six times?”
    “I ran out of bullets.”

  85. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #42 WB

    “people” who can step in when required

    Like “seconds” at a duel ??

  86. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #42 WB

    “people” who can step in when required

    Like “seconds” at a duel ??

  87. Tedtam Avatar

    #42 WB

    “Step in” what? 😉

    I mean, look at who is being discussed.

  88. Tedtam Avatar

    #42 WB

    “Step in” what? 😉

    I mean, look at who is being discussed.

  89. El Gordo Avatar

    Huckabee and Gingrich need to stand down.

    Agreed completely.

    The test in 2012 will be if the GOP continues with it’s “next in line” model of picking it’s candidate. I suppose Romney would be that person.

    Agreed there, too. I don’t like it but I guess I could possibly vote for Romney. Maybe. Considering that my other option would be the unrepentant socialist that now occupies the White House.

    McCain was over the acceptability line (for me anyway), but he was the “next in line” candidate in 2008. Just look at how well that worked out. Hopefully we don’t go down that road again with Romney. There is still time to avoid disaster. Let’s hope our current Repubs aren’t like Houston sports teams.

  90. Dude42 Avatar

    Huckabee and Gingrich need to stand down.

    Agreed completely.

    The test in 2012 will be if the GOP continues with it’s “next in line” model of picking it’s candidate. I suppose Romney would be that person.

    Agreed there, too. I don’t like it but I guess I could possibly vote for Romney. Maybe. Considering that my other option would be the unrepentant socialist that now occupies the White House.

    McCain was over the acceptability line (for me anyway), but he was the “next in line” candidate in 2008. Just look at how well that worked out. Hopefully we don’t go down that road again with Romney. There is still time to avoid disaster. Let’s hope our current Repubs aren’t like Houston sports teams.

  91. Katfish Avatar

    #47 & 48
    You two are reasonably intelligent and worldly ladies. I’m sure you can figure things out…

  92. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #47 & 48
    You two are reasonably intelligent and worldly ladies. I’m sure you can figure things out…

  93. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    If he runs, I’d vote for this guy in the republican primary, even though there is no chance of his winning it. He’s not nearly authoritarian enough to be a “true” republican in the minds of some.

    Unlike most pubbie politicians and the party in general, he actually walked his fiscal conservative talk instead of just making stump speeches about doing it. When his second term as governor of a typically blue state ended, government spending was down, the budget was down and the number of non-teacher state employees had been cut. He vetoed far more legislative measures than all of the other pubbie governor’s combined.

    But again, he doesn’t stand a chance in the primary. He’s not authoritarian enough for purist republicans.

  94. bob42 Avatar

    If he runs, I’d vote for this guy in the republican primary, even though there is no chance of his winning it. He’s not nearly authoritarian enough to be a “true” republican in the minds of some.

    Unlike most pubbie politicians and the party in general, he actually walked his fiscal conservative talk instead of just making stump speeches about doing it. When his second term as governor of a typically blue state ended, government spending was down, the budget was down and the number of non-teacher state employees had been cut. He vetoed far more legislative measures than all of the other pubbie governor’s combined.

    But again, he doesn’t stand a chance in the primary. He’s not authoritarian enough for purist republicans.

  95. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #36 Adee

    You referred to Murkwood in both your early morning and midmorning weather reports. I never heard of Murkwood so, being proactive, I googled it before asking.

    The first answer that popped up said “any place where one would be endangered of being murked”

    (Well, that sounds like Hammy’s Big Couch to me.)

    The next said Murkwood is a dark forest; that appears to be part of a D&D game called “The Elder Scrolls”.

    Are you a gamer? Is there another meaning? Maybe it just means overcast and gloomy…

  96. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #36 Adee

    You referred to Murkwood in both your early morning and midmorning weather reports. I never heard of Murkwood so, being proactive, I googled it before asking.

    The first answer that popped up said “any place where one would be endangered of being murked”

    (Well, that sounds like Hammy’s Big Couch to me.)

    The next said Murkwood is a dark forest; that appears to be part of a D&D game called “The Elder Scrolls”.

    Are you a gamer? Is there another meaning? Maybe it just means overcast and gloomy…

  97. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #50 wagonburner, you must admit mharper42’s #47 is pretty clever, “Like ‘seconds’ in a duel??” Gives a whole new meaning to “My seconds will call on you.” 😉

  98. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #50 wagonburner, you must admit mharper42’s #47 is pretty clever, “Like ‘seconds’ in a duel??” Gives a whole new meaning to “My seconds will call on you.” 😉

  99. Katfish Avatar

    #53 adee
    ick.

    **shudder**

  100. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #53 adee
    ick.

    **shudder**

  101. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    We should congratulate the happy engaged couple without dwelling on the icky details.

  102. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    We should congratulate the happy engaged couple without dwelling on the icky details.

  103. meglettx Avatar

    If the Repuke establishment, in concert with a complicit opposition MSM, put up a milk toast candidate – what’s your best guess about what Ms. Palin will do? If she senses ground swell support would she run as an independent and split the ticket? Would that insure a 3M victory(a la Ross Perot)?

  104. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    If the Repuke establishment, in concert with a complicit opposition MSM, put up a milk toast candidate – what’s your best guess about what Ms. Palin will do? If she senses ground swell support would she run as an independent and split the ticket? Would that insure a 3M victory(a la Ross Perot)?

  105. meglettx Avatar

    mharper69 – here’s a math question out of the Playboy text book for you.

    How many times does 84 go into 24?

  106. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    mharper69 – here’s a math question out of the Playboy text book for you.

    How many times does 84 go into 24?

  107. Katfish Avatar

    The best letter ever printed on an NFL team’s official stationery.

    More organizations should adopt a similar approach to whiny-a$$ed pansies.

  108. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    The best letter ever printed on an NFL team’s official stationery.

    More organizations should adopt a similar approach to whiny-a$$ed pansies.

  109. El Gordo Avatar

    If the Repuke establishment, in concert with a complicit opposition MSM, put up a milk toast candidate – what’s your best guess about what Ms. Palin will do? If she senses ground swell support would she run as an independent and split the ticket? Would that insure a 3M victory(a la Ross Perot)?

    I don’t think Sarah Palin will run in 2012. I could, however, see her throwing her support to a 3rd party candidate in the event that the “next in line” faction of Republicans has their way. Would that split the vote (a la Ross Perot)? I’m not convinced that it would this time around. There are an awful lot of people out there fed up with the shenanigans of both parties. I’m but one of them.

  110. Dude42 Avatar

    If the Repuke establishment, in concert with a complicit opposition MSM, put up a milk toast candidate – what’s your best guess about what Ms. Palin will do? If she senses ground swell support would she run as an independent and split the ticket? Would that insure a 3M victory(a la Ross Perot)?

    I don’t think Sarah Palin will run in 2012. I could, however, see her throwing her support to a 3rd party candidate in the event that the “next in line” faction of Republicans has their way. Would that split the vote (a la Ross Perot)? I’m not convinced that it would this time around. There are an awful lot of people out there fed up with the shenanigans of both parties. I’m but one of them.

  111. Dooood Avatar

    #26 GJT

    We know they are, or soon will be, silently building infrastructure all around the country for their preferred candidate, whoever that is. They did that with Rudy last election and it prolly began about this point in the cycle. To your point, that did not work out, but the ground forces were there for him had he built any early traction. I don’t trust them and they need to stay out of it, they do not have my, or the new movement’s interest at heart.

    Who is “They” ?

    Every presidential election cycle has aspiring candidates building infrastructure and while some have more money and higher-profile support than others (like Rudy), it’s still going to boil down to who the most Republicans in 50 states and territories think can both win the election and make the best president.

    If you had postponed Iowa and New Hampshire and held the Texas primary first, Duncan Hunter still would not have survived very long in 2008, no matter how badly the RPT wanted him. He just doesn’t have what it takes to get elected president.

    McCain would have still been the nominee.

  112. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #26 GJT

    We know they are, or soon will be, silently building infrastructure all around the country for their preferred candidate, whoever that is. They did that with Rudy last election and it prolly began about this point in the cycle. To your point, that did not work out, but the ground forces were there for him had he built any early traction. I don’t trust them and they need to stay out of it, they do not have my, or the new movement’s interest at heart.

    Who is “They” ?

    Every presidential election cycle has aspiring candidates building infrastructure and while some have more money and higher-profile support than others (like Rudy), it’s still going to boil down to who the most Republicans in 50 states and territories think can both win the election and make the best president.

    If you had postponed Iowa and New Hampshire and held the Texas primary first, Duncan Hunter still would not have survived very long in 2008, no matter how badly the RPT wanted him. He just doesn’t have what it takes to get elected president.

    McCain would have still been the nominee.

  113. El Gordo Avatar

    McCain would have still been the nominee.

    In the end, he wound up just as unelected as Duncan Hunter.

  114. Dude42 Avatar

    McCain would have still been the nominee.

    In the end, he wound up just as unelected as Duncan Hunter.

  115. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    A lot of folks didn’t vote for Obama, they voted against Bush. Same thing happened in 2000 when Bush was elected.

    The McCain camp’s selection of their veep candidate saved the down ballot races by appealing to the far right in the party. I think it was an act of desperation in light of the odds of him winning.

  116. bob42 Avatar

    A lot of folks didn’t vote for Obama, they voted against Bush. Same thing happened in 2000 when Bush was elected.

    The McCain camp’s selection of their veep candidate saved the down ballot races by appealing to the far right in the party. I think it was an act of desperation in light of the odds of him winning.

  117. El Gordo Avatar

    Somewhere along the line, the “far right” came to be defined as those who believe the government shouldn’t spend more than it takes in.

  118. Dude42 Avatar

    Somewhere along the line, the “far right” came to be defined as those who believe the government shouldn’t spend more than it takes in.

  119. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #61 Dude

    Yes, elections seem to have that binary feature in democracies. If you lose by 1% or 40%, you’re still the loser.

  120. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    #60;

    Duncan Hunter clearly had the best ideas as to how the president should govern. He stood on taking the fight right to the Jihadists and making the US much more business friendly. He had my full support during the primaries but I always wondered why e didn’t much get traction. I constantly heard from conservatives, “Duncan Hunter is a good man, but…” and that was followed by “he can’t win” to justify not supporting him. I think it did have a lot to do with the lack of infastructure for a nation-wide election.

  121. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    #60;

    Duncan Hunter clearly had the best ideas as to how the president should govern. He stood on taking the fight right to the Jihadists and making the US much more business friendly. He had my full support during the primaries but I always wondered why e didn’t much get traction. I constantly heard from conservatives, “Duncan Hunter is a good man, but…” and that was followed by “he can’t win” to justify not supporting him. I think it did have a lot to do with the lack of infastructure for a nation-wide election.

  122. Katfish Avatar

    #62 bob

    I think it was an act of desperation in light of the odds of him winning.

    Recall, he was pulling even and maybe even slightly ahead when the financial thing exploded.

  123. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #62 bob

    I think it was an act of desperation in light of the odds of him winning.

    Recall, he was pulling even and maybe even slightly ahead when the financial thing exploded.

  124. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    63 Dude,

    I consider myself one of those awful independent voters and I don’t think the government should spend more than it takes in by reasonable revenues.

    I am not sure that approximation works any more.

    Simple

  125. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    63 Dude,

    I consider myself one of those awful independent voters and I don’t think the government should spend more than it takes in by reasonable revenues.

    I am not sure that approximation works any more.

    Simple

  126. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    63 Dude42 says:
    December 29, 2010 at 2:15 pm
    Somewhere along the line, the “far right” came to be defined as those who believe the government shouldn’t spend more than it takes in.

    And the people who use it don’t yet realize that “Conservative” is the new “Middle Of The Road.”

  127. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    63 Dude42 says:
    December 29, 2010 at 2:15 pm
    Somewhere along the line, the “far right” came to be defined as those who believe the government shouldn’t spend more than it takes in.

    And the people who use it don’t yet realize that “Conservative” is the new “Middle Of The Road.”

  128. Dude42 Avatar

    If you lose by 1% or 40%, you’re still the loser.

    Which only makes it that much more intolerable to be lectured to by those who claim that the only way Republicans can win elections is to run as moderates or, more accurately as Hamous points out, to run the guy who’s next in line (who just happened to be a career moderate). If we’re going to lose elections we can at least lose them with a candidate we believe in.

  129. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #52 mharper42, Oops, my bad spelling. It’s Mirkwood, and it exists in the mythical lands of Middle Earth in JRR Tolkein’s Lord of the Rings Triology. The name perfectly describes the place.

  130. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #52 mharper42, Oops, my bad spelling. It’s Mirkwood, and it exists in the mythical lands of Middle Earth in JRR Tolkein’s Lord of the Rings Triology. The name perfectly describes the place.

  131. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    And we ARE winning victories.

    The Speaker of the Texas House will not come to office using Democrat votes this time around.

    Seems that race isn’t as over as some folks would have you beleive.

    Ken Paxton has also just been endorsed by the Texas Republican Assembly and Texas Alliance for Life. He already has the endorsement of Young Conservatives of Texas and Gun Owners of America.

    Not over by a long shot.

  132. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    And we ARE winning victories.

    The Speaker of the Texas House will not come to office using Democrat votes this time around.

    Seems that race isn’t as over as some folks would have you beleive.

    Ken Paxton has also just been endorsed by the Texas Republican Assembly and Texas Alliance for Life. He already has the endorsement of Young Conservatives of Texas and Gun Owners of America.

    Not over by a long shot.

  133. gtotracker42 Avatar
    gtotracker42

    Wait until the Texas leg tries to cut $25 billion or so that they thought they could spend. Republicans will be accused of turning immigrant babies into soylent green before this is over.

    Additionally, Republican’s will now use their 99 vote super majority to tackle the $25 billion dollar budget shortfall the only way they know how – by refusing to even consider new revenue options, like closing tax loopholes and forcing big business to pay their fair share, and instead will make devastating cuts to human services and public education.

    It will be painful to watch and excruciating for those directly affected, but it will also have tremendous political repercussions for the Republicans in the years to come. And just as in the U.S. Congress, Texas Republicans will soon find out that their efforts to court “Tea Party” candidates and voters had only short-term benefits. A number of the Republican challengers that just rode the wave into the State House are right-wing radicals that are unpredictable and likely uncontrollable.

    http://annieslist.com/Media.aspx?process=view_record&rid=16

  134. gtotracker42 Avatar
    gtotracker42

    Wait until the Texas leg tries to cut $25 billion or so that they thought they could spend. Republicans will be accused of turning immigrant babies into soylent green before this is over.

    Additionally, Republican’s will now use their 99 vote super majority to tackle the $25 billion dollar budget shortfall the only way they know how – by refusing to even consider new revenue options, like closing tax loopholes and forcing big business to pay their fair share, and instead will make devastating cuts to human services and public education.

    It will be painful to watch and excruciating for those directly affected, but it will also have tremendous political repercussions for the Republicans in the years to come. And just as in the U.S. Congress, Texas Republicans will soon find out that their efforts to court “Tea Party” candidates and voters had only short-term benefits. A number of the Republican challengers that just rode the wave into the State House are right-wing radicals that are unpredictable and likely uncontrollable.

    http://annieslist.com/Media.aspx?process=view_record&rid=16

  135. Katfish Avatar

    Who’s allowed to touch your junk:

  136. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Who’s allowed to touch your junk:

  137. El Gordo Avatar

    Recall, he was pulling even and maybe even slightly ahead when the financial thing exploded.

    Recall that the Republican reaction to the financial meltdown was to spend taxpayer money on bailing out private companies. Now act surprised that voters don’t buy your fiscal conservatism line. Once bitten, twice shy.

  138. Dude42 Avatar

    Recall, he was pulling even and maybe even slightly ahead when the financial thing exploded.

    Recall that the Republican reaction to the financial meltdown was to spend taxpayer money on bailing out private companies. Now act surprised that voters don’t buy your fiscal conservatism line. Once bitten, twice shy.

  139. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Batten down the hatches in Fort Bend County. We’re being deluged by the second thunderstorm today, and this one’s a doozy. Umm, the forecast last night and early this morning was greatly understated….

    Rain gauge is currently at 1.70″ and rising. It can stop any time now. I still entertain thoughts of making it to the grocery store today. Once it stops that is.

  140. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Batten down the hatches in Fort Bend County. We’re being deluged by the second thunderstorm today, and this one’s a doozy. Umm, the forecast last night and early this morning was greatly understated….

    Rain gauge is currently at 1.70″ and rising. It can stop any time now. I still entertain thoughts of making it to the grocery store today. Once it stops that is.

  141. Katfish Avatar

    #74 dude
    I didn’t imply that the Republicans were doing the right thing (although a case could be made they did the best they could with the info they had at the time), especially McCain with his theatrical suspension of his campaign to rush back to DC and harrumph with the rest of the Senate.

  142. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #74 dude
    I didn’t imply that the Republicans were doing the right thing (although a case could be made they did the best they could with the info they had at the time), especially McCain with his theatrical suspension of his campaign to rush back to DC and harrumph with the rest of the Senate.

  143. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    #60
    Texpat

    Who is “They” ?

    If you don’t who “they” is, you just might be one of them.

    /just kidding, just kidding

  144. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #60
    Texpat

    Who is “They” ?

    If you don’t who “they” is, you just might be one of them.

    /just kidding, just kidding

  145. meglettx Avatar

    Goat,

    “…turning immigrant babies into soylent green…”

    DING! DING! DING! We have a daily double winner!

  146. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    Goat,

    “…turning immigrant babies into soylent green…”

    DING! DING! DING! We have a daily double winner!

  147. El Gordo Avatar

    although a case could be made they did the best they could with the info they had at the time

    They utterly failed to make that case with me and many others who consider themselves fiscally conservative. But in truth, this discussion about presidential candidates for 2012 is premature as far as I’m concerned. I’m interested to see how the gridlock thing works out over the next couple of years before I get wrapped around the axle over who might run in 2012. Congressional Republicans have a big hole to start filling in January 2011 and my endorsement of anyone in 2012 is going to be contingent on how well they do their filling job.

  148. Dude42 Avatar

    although a case could be made they did the best they could with the info they had at the time

    They utterly failed to make that case with me and many others who consider themselves fiscally conservative. But in truth, this discussion about presidential candidates for 2012 is premature as far as I’m concerned. I’m interested to see how the gridlock thing works out over the next couple of years before I get wrapped around the axle over who might run in 2012. Congressional Republicans have a big hole to start filling in January 2011 and my endorsement of anyone in 2012 is going to be contingent on how well they do their filling job.

  149. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    #60 (con’t)

    We clearly, out in the open, saw the inside the beltway Washington GOP establishment types stick their noses in the 2010 midterm primaries. You can try and make the case there is nothing wrong with “them” getting involved with the primary contests, but don’t try to tell me it doesn’t happen.

  150. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #60 (con’t)

    We clearly, out in the open, saw the inside the beltway Washington GOP establishment types stick their noses in the 2010 midterm primaries. You can try and make the case there is nothing wrong with “them” getting involved with the primary contests, but don’t try to tell me it doesn’t happen.

  151. Katfish Avatar

    They utterly failed to make that case with me and many others who consider themselves fiscally conservative.

    That may be the case, but it’s too late now. The people in charge – Bush et al. – were dealing with a very fluid situation where the options were very limited. They made the decision they made and we have to live with it. That’s what we elected them to do and we don’t have the luxury to see what would have happened had they chose a different plan of action.

  152. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    They utterly failed to make that case with me and many others who consider themselves fiscally conservative.

    That may be the case, but it’s too late now. The people in charge – Bush et al. – were dealing with a very fluid situation where the options were very limited. They made the decision they made and we have to live with it. That’s what we elected them to do and we don’t have the luxury to see what would have happened had they chose a different plan of action.

  153. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    forcing big business to pay their fair share

    That one always cracks me up. Consumers pay taxes. Businesses are just the Zacchaeus’ in our current tax scheme (aka wealth redistribution). I’m no economist (bores me to hell) but even I know that.

  154. Hamous Avatar

    forcing big business to pay their fair share

    That one always cracks me up. Consumers pay taxes. Businesses are just the Zacchaeus’ in our current tax scheme (aka wealth redistribution). I’m no economist (bores me to hell) but even I know that.

  155. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    #79
    Dude

    I feel the same way but every cycle by the time we turn our eye towards the presidential election, the train has already been in motion for a year without our input.

  156. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #79
    Dude

    I feel the same way but every cycle by the time we turn our eye towards the presidential election, the train has already been in motion for a year without our input.

  157. El Gordo Avatar

    They made the decision they made and we have to live with it. That’s what we elected them to do and we don’t have the luxury to see what would have happened had they chose a different plan of action.

    True, but we do have the option to chose differently next time. This is as much a litmus test for me as the abortion issue is for you. There is no middle ground on this as far as I’m concerned.

  158. Dude42 Avatar

    They made the decision they made and we have to live with it. That’s what we elected them to do and we don’t have the luxury to see what would have happened had they chose a different plan of action.

    True, but we do have the option to chose differently next time. This is as much a litmus test for me as the abortion issue is for you. There is no middle ground on this as far as I’m concerned.

  159. El Gordo Avatar

    …the train has already been in motion for a year without our input.

    You’re absolutely right. But without a ton of money to throw at it, our influence is limited in scope to what little we can donate, our time and our votes.

  160. Dude42 Avatar

    …the train has already been in motion for a year without our input.

    You’re absolutely right. But without a ton of money to throw at it, our influence is limited in scope to what little we can donate, our time and our votes.

  161. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    #85
    Dude

    The Tea Partiers got a grip on the steering wheel, you forget.

  162. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #85
    Dude

    The Tea Partiers got a grip on the steering wheel, you forget.

  163. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    *alert seenyore BWeldon*

    It appears your yahoo email has been HACKED

  164. Katfish Avatar

    *alert seenyore BWeldon*

    It appears your yahoo email has been HACKED

  165. Tedtam Avatar

    You know, if everyone would just recognize my royal status as Queen, we wouldn’t be having all this election stupidity.

    I’d make most of you members of my court and in positions of power. Goodness knows, there’s more sanity and common sense held individually and collectively among (most of) the members of this blog, we certainly couldn’t do any worse than the current clown circus wasting oxygen in the Beltway.

  166. Tedtam Avatar

    You know, if everyone would just recognize my royal status as Queen, we wouldn’t be having all this election stupidity.

    I’d make most of you members of my court and in positions of power. Goodness knows, there’s more sanity and common sense held individually and collectively among (most of) the members of this blog, we certainly couldn’t do any worse than the current clown circus wasting oxygen in the Beltway.

  167. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    #88
    Tedtam

    I’m askeered all our cabinet meetings would devolve into Dope Smoking Dancing Gay Bear Weenie Waggin’ contests and we wouldn’t have the time for reachin’ across the aisle and stuff.

  168. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #88
    Tedtam

    I’m askeered all our cabinet meetings would devolve into Dope Smoking Dancing Gay Bear Weenie Waggin’ contests and we wouldn’t have the time for reachin’ across the aisle and stuff.

  169. Katfish Avatar

    You fragot the clown suits.

  170. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    You fragot the clown suits.

  171. El Gordo Avatar

    I’m askeered all our cabinet meetings would devolve into Dope Smoking Dancing Gay Bear Weenie Waggin’ contests and we wouldn’t have the time for reachin’ across the aisle and stuff.

    No problem by me. I don’t smoke dope. I don’t dance. I’m not gay. I’m not a bear. I only wag my weenie in the privacy of my own home. And any hands reaching across from the left side of the aisle will be promptly severed off by the far right machete of fiscal righteousness!

    🙂

  172. Dude42 Avatar

    I’m askeered all our cabinet meetings would devolve into Dope Smoking Dancing Gay Bear Weenie Waggin’ contests and we wouldn’t have the time for reachin’ across the aisle and stuff.

    No problem by me. I don’t smoke dope. I don’t dance. I’m not gay. I’m not a bear. I only wag my weenie in the privacy of my own home. And any hands reaching across from the left side of the aisle will be promptly severed off by the far right machete of fiscal righteousness!

    🙂

  173. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #57 low rents

    How many times does 84 go into 24?

    That’s up to them, I’m staying out of it.

  174. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #57 low rents

    How many times does 84 go into 24?

    That’s up to them, I’m staying out of it.

  175. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    You’re absolutely right. But without a ton of money to throw at it, our influence is limited in scope to what little we can donate, our time and our votes.

    Take heart, bucko. The rules have changed.

    Just look at what happened with the Speakers race. The Establishment did not want this caucus to happen. What changed that was thousands of persons who were formerly of no consequence to them banding together and making thier voices heard. You’re making a contribution right now. The professional politicians and their hangers on will pooh pooh it, but you really are. Pop a few of these discussions and opinions on your Facebook page, and you affect even more minds.

    The Tea Party effect is very real, and successes like this will only serve to make it grow as more people realize they now have the tools to make themselves heard.

  176. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    It appears your yahoo email has been HACKED

    I can attest to that as well.

  177. Hamous Avatar

    It appears your yahoo email has been HACKED

    I can attest to that as well.

  178. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #70 Adee

    Mirkwood

    Ah, that explains it. I haven’t re-read Tolkien since the 70’s, nor have I seen any of the movies.

  179. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #70 Adee

    Mirkwood

    Ah, that explains it. I haven’t re-read Tolkien since the 70’s, nor have I seen any of the movies.

  180. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #72 GTO42

    turning immigrant babies into soylent green

    So maybe more illegals will get the he!! out of Texas…

  181. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #72 GTO42

    turning immigrant babies into soylent green

    So maybe more illegals will get the he!! out of Texas…

  182. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #75 Adee

    I still entertain thoughts of making it to the grocery store today

    I gave up at 1:30 and sent spouse out to get a gallon of milk, the rest can wait till the creek subsides…

  183. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #75 Adee

    I still entertain thoughts of making it to the grocery store today

    I gave up at 1:30 and sent spouse out to get a gallon of milk, the rest can wait till the creek subsides…

  184. Katfish Avatar

    Wanna feel really insignificant? Here’s a picture of a million galaxies. Each galaxy contains between several million and a few trillion stars. If we use even a fairly low (by galactic standards) average star count of 10 billion stars each, that picture would contain 10 million billion or 10 quadrillion stars.

  185. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Wanna feel really insignificant? Here’s a picture of a million galaxies. Each galaxy contains between several million and a few trillion stars. If we use even a fairly low (by galactic standards) average star count of 10 billion stars each, that picture would contain 10 million billion or 10 quadrillion stars.

  186. Katfish Avatar

    I gave up at 1:30 and sent spouse out to get a gallon of milk

    Did he get some Soylent Green (tastes like chicken!) too?

  187. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I gave up at 1:30 and sent spouse out to get a gallon of milk

    Did he get some Soylent Green (tastes like chicken!) too?

  188. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Dangit! hunnerd and uno.

  189. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Dangit! hunnerd and uno.

  190. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    MIL’s trailer out back just tripped a breaker, hope it was a fluke.

  191. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    MIL’s trailer out back just tripped a breaker, hope it was a fluke.

  192. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    What is it with these guys that obsesses them with posting #100 ?

  193. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    What is it with these guys that obsesses them with posting #100 ?

  194. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    103

    It’s a weenie waggin thing, you wouldn’t understand.

  195. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    103

    It’s a weenie waggin thing, you wouldn’t understand.

  196. meglettx Avatar

    #98. That looks like a HUGE egg with a crack down the middle. What’s on the outside of the egg?

    I bet that non-believer bob420 can tell you!

  197. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    #98. That looks like a HUGE egg with a crack down the middle. What’s on the outside of the egg?

    I bet that non-believer bob420 can tell you!

  198. Dooood Avatar

    GJT

    The reason it seems a a lot of groundwork has been laid before the first primary is because, in fact, it has. Every person who is seeking the 2012 nomination for Republican Part candidate has aleady been organizing and planning how to win. They do this as secretly as possible, not because they don’t want you or Lawrence to know about it, but because they don’t want the other candidates to know what they are really doing. The whole thing shifts and changes like a kaleidoscope of emerging and diminishing loyalties and support as different people rise or fall in viability.

    A candidate has to go through a very long gauntlet of meetings with influential people, local and national organizations – political clubs, fund raisers, bundlers, conservative think tanks, business groups, etc. Without a significant amount of blessing or outright endorsement from these players, a candidate will get nowhere. If you can’t convince a relatively small group (out of 330 million people) of experienced politicians, policy wonks, thinkers, writers/bloggers, moneymen and pollster/consultants you have what it takes to be a leader, a winning charismatic campaigner and, most of all, not blow the thing by making some stupid blunder down the road, then you will never be able to build the type of organization it takes to win. Many of these people invest tons of money and resources in the campaign and none of them want to waste their money on a loser.

  199. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    GJT

    The reason it seems a a lot of groundwork has been laid before the first primary is because, in fact, it has. Every person who is seeking the 2012 nomination for Republican Part candidate has aleady been organizing and planning how to win. They do this as secretly as possible, not because they don’t want you or Lawrence to know about it, but because they don’t want the other candidates to know what they are really doing. The whole thing shifts and changes like a kaleidoscope of emerging and diminishing loyalties and support as different people rise or fall in viability.

    A candidate has to go through a very long gauntlet of meetings with influential people, local and national organizations – political clubs, fund raisers, bundlers, conservative think tanks, business groups, etc. Without a significant amount of blessing or outright endorsement from these players, a candidate will get nowhere. If you can’t convince a relatively small group (out of 330 million people) of experienced politicians, policy wonks, thinkers, writers/bloggers, moneymen and pollster/consultants you have what it takes to be a leader, a winning charismatic campaigner and, most of all, not blow the thing by making some stupid blunder down the road, then you will never be able to build the type of organization it takes to win. Many of these people invest tons of money and resources in the campaign and none of them want to waste their money on a loser.

  200. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Texpat

    The one group not in your list is who “they” are, elected Republicans in Washington and those in the RNC. They need to stay out of it.

  201. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Texpat

    The one group not in your list is who “they” are, elected Republicans in Washington and those in the RNC. They need to stay out of it.

  202. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    And obviously there’s a lot of positioning going on behind the scenes, my position is that we need to be aware of it and be a part of it. Especially the primary format.

  203. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    And obviously there’s a lot of positioning going on behind the scenes, my position is that we need to be aware of it and be a part of it. Especially the primary format.

  204. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    wagon #76

    I didn’t imply that the Republicans were doing the right thing (although a case could be made they did the best they could with the info they had at the time)

    What in the world does that mean? True principles do not change based on the information one has at the time. Running to government to rescue the public from its own shortfalls is not in harmony with conservatism.

  205. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    wagon #76

    I didn’t imply that the Republicans were doing the right thing (although a case could be made they did the best they could with the info they had at the time)

    What in the world does that mean? True principles do not change based on the information one has at the time. Running to government to rescue the public from its own shortfalls is not in harmony with conservatism.

  206. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    If we use even a fairly low (by galactic standards) average star count of 10 billion stars each, that picture would contain 10 million billion or 10 quadrillion stars.

    And to think all that just “appeared” out of nothing. I’m glad science has been able to prove it.

    /sarc

  207. Hamous Avatar

    If we use even a fairly low (by galactic standards) average star count of 10 billion stars each, that picture would contain 10 million billion or 10 quadrillion stars.

    And to think all that just “appeared” out of nothing. I’m glad science has been able to prove it.

    /sarc

  208. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #105 no I can’t, and I don’t pretend to be able to.

    I bet that non-believer bob420 can tell you!

    I’m perfectly content in not knowing for sure. What does Scripture tell you about it?

  209. bob42 Avatar

    #105 no I can’t, and I don’t pretend to be able to.

    I bet that non-believer bob420 can tell you!

    I’m perfectly content in not knowing for sure. What does Scripture tell you about it?

  210. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    We have flowed over the 2″ level. The sky is a bit lighter to the NW, however it’s still dark in the SW and thunder is growling from that way. It’s 58 on the front porch now and never got past the low 60s today.

    I can go to the grocery store tomorrow morning. We shall not starve tonight.

  211. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    We have flowed over the 2″ level. The sky is a bit lighter to the NW, however it’s still dark in the SW and thunder is growling from that way. It’s 58 on the front porch now and never got past the low 60s today.

    I can go to the grocery store tomorrow morning. We shall not starve tonight.

  212. Katfish Avatar

    What does Scripture tell you about it?

    All things in the heavens and on Earth were created by God.

  213. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    What does Scripture tell you about it?

    All things in the heavens and on Earth were created by God.

  214. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #107 GJT

    I agree the RNC should have an arm’s length approach in the primaries.

    However, you are never going to remove the influence certain elected politicians have regarding candidates. It may not be official or public, but that influence will always be there.

    Also, Jim DeMint, Tom Coburn and Michelle Bachman wielded quite a bit of influence in the primaries in 2010. Should they have been prohibited since they are, after all, elected politicians ? And how about the enormous effect the elected members of the Republican Governors association had in primary elections ? Tons of money and creative advertising for Tea Party candidates across the nation.

  215. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    The more things change, the more they remain the same.

    The same political parties which now agitate the United States have existed through all time.’ Precisely…. While all other sciences have advanced, that of government is at a stand; little better understood, little better practiced now than three or four thousand years ago. What is the reason? I say parties and faction will not suffer improvements to be made. As soon as one man hints at an improvement his rival opposes it. No sooner has one party discovered or invented an amelioration of the condition of man or the order of society, then the other party belies it, misconstrues it, misrepresents it, ridicules it, insults it, and persecutes it. Records are destroyed. Histories are annihilated … or prohibited: sometimes by popes, sometimes by emperors, sometimes by Aristocratical and sometimes by democratical assemblies and sometimes by mobs.

  216. bob42 Avatar

    The more things change, the more they remain the same.

    The same political parties which now agitate the United States have existed through all time.’ Precisely…. While all other sciences have advanced, that of government is at a stand; little better understood, little better practiced now than three or four thousand years ago. What is the reason? I say parties and faction will not suffer improvements to be made. As soon as one man hints at an improvement his rival opposes it. No sooner has one party discovered or invented an amelioration of the condition of man or the order of society, then the other party belies it, misconstrues it, misrepresents it, ridicules it, insults it, and persecutes it. Records are destroyed. Histories are annihilated … or prohibited: sometimes by popes, sometimes by emperors, sometimes by Aristocratical and sometimes by democratical assemblies and sometimes by mobs.

  217. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    I used binoculars on my rain gauge — I’d need waders to make it to the fence in person — and it’s at 3.8″. Most of that will flow away in White Oak Bayou because it came down in torrents.

  218. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    I used binoculars on my rain gauge — I’d need waders to make it to the fence in person — and it’s at 3.8″. Most of that will flow away in White Oak Bayou because it came down in torrents.

  219. gtotracker42 Avatar
    gtotracker42

    Baylor vs Illinois on ESPN now.

  220. gtotracker42 Avatar
    gtotracker42

    Baylor vs Illinois on ESPN now.

  221. Katfish Avatar

    True principles do not change based on the information one has at the time. Running to government to rescue the public from its own shortfalls is not in harmony with conservatism.

    Sometimes, you’re faced with a no-win situation. In that case, the choices were a) do nothing and risk a calamitous worldwide financial meltdown that would have led into a severe depression; or b) implement a plan of bailouts and other financial activities that would prop the financial system up enough that it could make it the rest of the way on its own.

    Keep in mind that if you choose option “a” and the situation worsened, the potential damage to the global economy may have been sufficient to preclude any efforts at repair. It would have needed complete rebuilding at that point. Global chaos would not be pretty.

    Also keep in mind that President Bush et al. were privy to much more information than any of us were. Furthermore, the guys advising him and Congress are pretty sharp people.

    An example may help explain what I meant. Say you’re a staunch follower of Dave Ramsey and you have this intense loathing of borrowing, especially on credit cards. You’ve just paid them off or are nearing paying them off. One night, a storm blows through and lightning hits a tree limb and it falls on your roof, leaving a huge hole through which lots of rain is falling. The weather forecast is that similar storm activity is likely over the next several days and weeks.

    Do you a) break out the plastic and go to Home Depot to buy tarps, lumber, and other supplies to patch your roof, or b) do you just let the rain fall into your house so you don’t have to violate your oath to never spend lots of money on credit card debt?

  222. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    True principles do not change based on the information one has at the time. Running to government to rescue the public from its own shortfalls is not in harmony with conservatism.

    Sometimes, you’re faced with a no-win situation. In that case, the choices were a) do nothing and risk a calamitous worldwide financial meltdown that would have led into a severe depression; or b) implement a plan of bailouts and other financial activities that would prop the financial system up enough that it could make it the rest of the way on its own.

    Keep in mind that if you choose option “a” and the situation worsened, the potential damage to the global economy may have been sufficient to preclude any efforts at repair. It would have needed complete rebuilding at that point. Global chaos would not be pretty.

    Also keep in mind that President Bush et al. were privy to much more information than any of us were. Furthermore, the guys advising him and Congress are pretty sharp people.

    An example may help explain what I meant. Say you’re a staunch follower of Dave Ramsey and you have this intense loathing of borrowing, especially on credit cards. You’ve just paid them off or are nearing paying them off. One night, a storm blows through and lightning hits a tree limb and it falls on your roof, leaving a huge hole through which lots of rain is falling. The weather forecast is that similar storm activity is likely over the next several days and weeks.

    Do you a) break out the plastic and go to Home Depot to buy tarps, lumber, and other supplies to patch your roof, or b) do you just let the rain fall into your house so you don’t have to violate your oath to never spend lots of money on credit card debt?

  223. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Health tips for the New Year, (from completely clueless people.)

  224. meglettx Avatar

    #118. If you’re interested, “Bailout Nation” by Barry Ritholtz is a pretty good read on the financial meltdown.

  225. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    #118. If you’re interested, “Bailout Nation” by Barry Ritholtz is a pretty good read on the financial meltdown.

  226. Dooood Avatar

    #118 WB

    I made the point back in 2008 about AIG that the US government had no choice but to save them from collapse at the time. Most people did not know and still don’t seem to understand that 90% of the commercial aircraft in the world were insured by AIG and if we had not infused them with cash, air travel around the world would have halted.

    The leaders of other nation were not exactly concerned with the political opinions of Main Street Americans when they were faced with that sort of catastrophe.

    I am as angry and disgusted as anyone with what happened in the long run with the whole bailout scheme, particularly with the stimulus bill. At least TARP seems to have paid back the funds it borrowed from the American taxpayer, but Obama’s stimulus trillion is gone in the wind.

  227. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #118 WB

    I made the point back in 2008 about AIG that the US government had no choice but to save them from collapse at the time. Most people did not know and still don’t seem to understand that 90% of the commercial aircraft in the world were insured by AIG and if we had not infused them with cash, air travel around the world would have halted.

    The leaders of other nation were not exactly concerned with the political opinions of Main Street Americans when they were faced with that sort of catastrophe.

    I am as angry and disgusted as anyone with what happened in the long run with the whole bailout scheme, particularly with the stimulus bill. At least TARP seems to have paid back the funds it borrowed from the American taxpayer, but Obama’s stimulus trillion is gone in the wind.

  228. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    MIL’s trailer out back just tripped a breaker, hope it was a fluke.

    Ground Fault, I betcha’ happens a lot in the rain. 😉

  229. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    MIL’s trailer out back just tripped a breaker, hope it was a fluke.

    Ground Fault, I betcha’ happens a lot in the rain. 😉

  230. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    I used binoculars on my rain gauge — I’d need waders to make it to the fence in person — and it’s at 3.8″.

    mharper, you need one of one you can SEE 😉

  231. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    I used binoculars on my rain gauge — I’d need waders to make it to the fence in person — and it’s at 3.8″.

    mharper, you need one of one you can SEE 😉

  232. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Hey kids! It’s Sociopath Barbie!.

  233. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #105 Low666

    looks like a HUGE egg

    That “egg” is the projection view of data acquired by infrared telescopes looking out in all directions from the earth. They’re not saying the universe is shaped like an egg. You can’t get outside of the universe to take a picture of it or see what shape it is.

    The hazy blue “crack” is nearby stars in the Milky Way, the article says. It does have the general appearance of the Milky Way as seen by human eyes looking up in good viewing conditions. I grew up in Midland and the night sky views in West Texas were fabulous. Here in Houston, I am thrilled that I can see Jupiter overhead lately.

  234. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #105 Low666

    looks like a HUGE egg

    That “egg” is the projection view of data acquired by infrared telescopes looking out in all directions from the earth. They’re not saying the universe is shaped like an egg. You can’t get outside of the universe to take a picture of it or see what shape it is.

    The hazy blue “crack” is nearby stars in the Milky Way, the article says. It does have the general appearance of the Milky Way as seen by human eyes looking up in good viewing conditions. I grew up in Midland and the night sky views in West Texas were fabulous. Here in Houston, I am thrilled that I can see Jupiter overhead lately.

  235. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #124 Only Bob finds images like these…

  236. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #124 Only Bob finds images like these…

  237. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #126 I’m not so sure about that. WB, Tedtam, and others have come up with some pretty “interesting” stuff. But I reckon I do have my moments.

  238. bob42 Avatar

    #126 I’m not so sure about that. WB, Tedtam, and others have come up with some pretty “interesting” stuff. But I reckon I do have my moments.

  239. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Finally stopped raining about 6:30, and all that’s left are dripping trees casting drops below. Plastic rain gauge on the fence says 2.3″. Can’t see the data for the little weather station since spouse has that computer tied up with a project that can’t be interrupted. Our downpour is far behind what landed at mharper42’s home. Now to see how much soaks in by morning.

    We used to see so many stars so well when we first moved out here in 1980. Not any more, regrettably. Too much light from all the “civilzation” that followed us. Fortunately the big bright ones and planets still rule the clear night sky out here. And we know the rest are still there though hidden from the naked eye.

  240. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Finally stopped raining about 6:30, and all that’s left are dripping trees casting drops below. Plastic rain gauge on the fence says 2.3″. Can’t see the data for the little weather station since spouse has that computer tied up with a project that can’t be interrupted. Our downpour is far behind what landed at mharper42’s home. Now to see how much soaks in by morning.

    We used to see so many stars so well when we first moved out here in 1980. Not any more, regrettably. Too much light from all the “civilzation” that followed us. Fortunately the big bright ones and planets still rule the clear night sky out here. And we know the rest are still there though hidden from the naked eye.

  241. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Adee, I grew up in south Alabama and we lived out in the country, every night we could see billions of stars, it has not changed a lot there today, even though more folks have moved to the country. When my Boy was small,…’bout 4-5 in the late 80’s we were at Granny’s house (my Bride’s Mother) and he said “why does Granny have SOO many more stars than we do?”
    Doncha’ just love it! I showed him why years later on some of the moon less nights up at the deer lease in east Texas, the night sky is just like home. 😀

  242. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Adee, I grew up in south Alabama and we lived out in the country, every night we could see billions of stars, it has not changed a lot there today, even though more folks have moved to the country. When my Boy was small,…’bout 4-5 in the late 80’s we were at Granny’s house (my Bride’s Mother) and he said “why does Granny have SOO many more stars than we do?”
    Doncha’ just love it! I showed him why years later on some of the moon less nights up at the deer lease in east Texas, the night sky is just like home. 😀

  243. meglettx Avatar

    #125 iwharper69 – you’ve taken my screen name bastardization(first big word I learned from Hamous) to a new “Low”!

  244. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    #125 iwharper69 – you’ve taken my screen name bastardization(first big word I learned from Hamous) to a new “Low”!

  245. Dooood Avatar

    I think we should take up a collection so Adee can have her own computer.

  246. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    I think we should take up a collection so Adee can have her own computer.

  247. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    a) do nothing and risk a calamitous worldwide financial meltdown that would have led into a severe depression; or b) implement a plan of bailouts and other financial activities that would prop the financial system up enough that it could make it the rest of the way on its own.

    And what possibilities are there to avoid option “a”? Can the world eradicate that possibility? I don’t think so. The world can prolongue it which I solidly believe it has, and/or shove the effects of it to a future time. I solidly believe that the world’s done that as well. Correct economic principle would lead people to conclude that government should reduce taxes AND spending. The latter is the clincher. Neither party wanted to cut spending and become the “bad guy” to the public’s eye. Had the government taken this approahc I’m absolutely convinced that whatever world-wide economic catastrophes ocurred would be pretty much over by now. Instead the world whipped out its credit card and chaged these economic calamities for the future to deal with and deal with it at a more intense and serious level.

    the potential damage to the global economy may have been sufficient to preclude any efforts at repair.

    When has that EVER happened in the history of the world? Especially in situations where government took the approach I just mentioned?

    It would have needed complete rebuilding at that point.

    There only “rebuilding” I could possibly see would be to rebuild government to NOT guareantee loads of money to vast amounts of people. Again, cutting spending is what politicians want to avoid, even if that means to laden heavy financial burdens upon future generatons of the populace.

    Also keep in mind that President Bush et al. were privy to much more information than any of us were. Furthermore, the guys advising him and Congress are pretty sharp people.

    So there’s some secret information we don’t know about that would render my economic argument as impotent?

    As for your hypothetical regarding **my** money, (ahem), sure, I can take out a loan in the case of an emergency. (This, of course, assumes I’ll get no insurance money for damage to the house). But your situation involves my money and how I use it for me. This is different from a situation where I get to take other people’s money, promise gazillion dollars to a gazillion people, and **then** make a choice during an emergency. If the latter situation applied could I not have the option to stop taking other people’s money AND stop promising the world to everyone?

    Regardless the situation, correct principles stand.

  248. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    a) do nothing and risk a calamitous worldwide financial meltdown that would have led into a severe depression; or b) implement a plan of bailouts and other financial activities that would prop the financial system up enough that it could make it the rest of the way on its own.

    And what possibilities are there to avoid option “a”? Can the world eradicate that possibility? I don’t think so. The world can prolongue it which I solidly believe it has, and/or shove the effects of it to a future time. I solidly believe that the world’s done that as well. Correct economic principle would lead people to conclude that government should reduce taxes AND spending. The latter is the clincher. Neither party wanted to cut spending and become the “bad guy” to the public’s eye. Had the government taken this approahc I’m absolutely convinced that whatever world-wide economic catastrophes ocurred would be pretty much over by now. Instead the world whipped out its credit card and chaged these economic calamities for the future to deal with and deal with it at a more intense and serious level.

    the potential damage to the global economy may have been sufficient to preclude any efforts at repair.

    When has that EVER happened in the history of the world? Especially in situations where government took the approach I just mentioned?

    It would have needed complete rebuilding at that point.

    There only “rebuilding” I could possibly see would be to rebuild government to NOT guareantee loads of money to vast amounts of people. Again, cutting spending is what politicians want to avoid, even if that means to laden heavy financial burdens upon future generatons of the populace.

    Also keep in mind that President Bush et al. were privy to much more information than any of us were. Furthermore, the guys advising him and Congress are pretty sharp people.

    So there’s some secret information we don’t know about that would render my economic argument as impotent?

    As for your hypothetical regarding **my** money, (ahem), sure, I can take out a loan in the case of an emergency. (This, of course, assumes I’ll get no insurance money for damage to the house). But your situation involves my money and how I use it for me. This is different from a situation where I get to take other people’s money, promise gazillion dollars to a gazillion people, and **then** make a choice during an emergency. If the latter situation applied could I not have the option to stop taking other people’s money AND stop promising the world to everyone?

    Regardless the situation, correct principles stand.

  249. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    One of my “adopted” kids got some bad news yesterday. Two weeks after he was promoted to manager at the restaurant where he worked, the local franchise was sold, and the new management brought in their own people. He could stay on there only if he accepted a cut in both pay and hours.

    He told them to shove it, and I don’t blame him. If he and his gal need to bunk here again, they know they can. But I don’t think that’s likely. It took him longer than some, but he now “gitzit.”

  250. bob42 Avatar

    One of my “adopted” kids got some bad news yesterday. Two weeks after he was promoted to manager at the restaurant where he worked, the local franchise was sold, and the new management brought in their own people. He could stay on there only if he accepted a cut in both pay and hours.

    He told them to shove it, and I don’t blame him. If he and his gal need to bunk here again, they know they can. But I don’t think that’s likely. It took him longer than some, but he now “gitzit.”

  251. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #131 Lowboy666 [*]

    No response about the cosmic egg? Just complaints about how you are addressed? I suggested Larry42 but you sneered at that. 😀

    [*] A lowboy is the lower part of a highboy

  252. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #131 Lowboy666 [*]

    No response about the cosmic egg? Just complaints about how you are addressed? I suggested Larry42 but you sneered at that. 😀

    [*] A lowboy is the lower part of a highboy

  253. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Texpat #121;

    Back when you were first making the aergument to bail out AIG I told you that if you could show me that bailing them out could help destroy Jihadists, I’d be 100% for it. That change of heart from me still stands.

    Suppose all the world’s airlines halted. Once AIG goes under would their assets not be bought off by other insurance companies, probably at bargain rates? Would not the world’s airlines seek and obtain insurance from other providers? So, in the end would not the airplanes of the world be insured to fly AND insurance companies who ran their businesses better than how AIG ran theirs be rewarded and thus expanding their superior business model by growing in size after they buy off AIG’s assets?

  254. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Texpat #121;

    Back when you were first making the aergument to bail out AIG I told you that if you could show me that bailing them out could help destroy Jihadists, I’d be 100% for it. That change of heart from me still stands.

    Suppose all the world’s airlines halted. Once AIG goes under would their assets not be bought off by other insurance companies, probably at bargain rates? Would not the world’s airlines seek and obtain insurance from other providers? So, in the end would not the airplanes of the world be insured to fly AND insurance companies who ran their businesses better than how AIG ran theirs be rewarded and thus expanding their superior business model by growing in size after they buy off AIG’s assets?

  255. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    texpat;

    I forgot about this:

    I am as angry and disgusted as anyone with what happened in the long run with the whole bailout scheme, particularly with the stimulus bill. At least TARP seems to have paid back the funds it borrowed from the American taxpayer, but Obama’s stimulus trillion is gone in the wind.

    The initial action to run and bail out businesses under the bush administration seemed to me to solidify ad make a norm of government rescue. This greatly empowered government and a more liberal administration and Congress would naturally seize that initiative and expand government even more with its newfound powers. This would not be the first time a less than conservative approch to government by Republicans enable future liberal governors to take what the Rebublicans set forth and put it on steroids.

  256. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    texpat;

    I forgot about this:

    I am as angry and disgusted as anyone with what happened in the long run with the whole bailout scheme, particularly with the stimulus bill. At least TARP seems to have paid back the funds it borrowed from the American taxpayer, but Obama’s stimulus trillion is gone in the wind.

    The initial action to run and bail out businesses under the bush administration seemed to me to solidify ad make a norm of government rescue. This greatly empowered government and a more liberal administration and Congress would naturally seize that initiative and expand government even more with its newfound powers. This would not be the first time a less than conservative approch to government by Republicans enable future liberal governors to take what the Rebublicans set forth and put it on steroids.

  257. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    The man, who is in his sixties, first visited a local clinic in Blekinge in southern Sweden in September 2009 for treatment of a urinary tract infection, the local Blekinge Läns Tidning (BLT) reported.

    When he returned in March 2010 complaining of foreskin irritation, the doctor on duty at the time diagnosed the problem as a simple case of inflammation.

    After three weeks passed without the prescribed treatment alleviating the man’s condition, he was instructed to seek further treatment at Blekinge Hospital.

    But it took five months before he was able to schedule an appointment at the hospital.

    When he finally met with doctors at the hospital, the man was informed he had cancer and his penis would have to be removed.

    It remains unclear if the man would have been able to keep his penis had the cancer been detected sooner.

    The matter has now been reported to the National Board of Health and Welfare (Socialstyrelsen) under Sweden’s Lex Maria laws, the informal name used to refer to regulations governing the reporting of injuries or incidents in the Swedish health care system.

    (emphasis mine)

    If this story does not cause every male member of society to oppose socialized medicine, then we are truly doomed.

    LINK

  258. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    The man, who is in his sixties, first visited a local clinic in Blekinge in southern Sweden in September 2009 for treatment of a urinary tract infection, the local Blekinge Läns Tidning (BLT) reported.

    When he returned in March 2010 complaining of foreskin irritation, the doctor on duty at the time diagnosed the problem as a simple case of inflammation.

    After three weeks passed without the prescribed treatment alleviating the man’s condition, he was instructed to seek further treatment at Blekinge Hospital.

    But it took five months before he was able to schedule an appointment at the hospital.

    When he finally met with doctors at the hospital, the man was informed he had cancer and his penis would have to be removed.

    It remains unclear if the man would have been able to keep his penis had the cancer been detected sooner.

    The matter has now been reported to the National Board of Health and Welfare (Socialstyrelsen) under Sweden’s Lex Maria laws, the informal name used to refer to regulations governing the reporting of injuries or incidents in the Swedish health care system.

    (emphasis mine)

    If this story does not cause every male member of society to oppose socialized medicine, then we are truly doomed.

    LINK

  259. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Bob42 may be more tech savy than ayone here has ever supposed:

    Microsoft calls its online-unifier “Bob.”

    “This award is made purely on the technical merits,” the FCC chairman remarks.

    The FCC is particularly enamored of the “back door” that Microsoft has built into Bob, making it easier for police to monitor communications in real time. The commission also applauds Microsoft’s forward thinking because it has incorporated a virtual “V-chip” in Bob. The censoring software is analogous to the V-chip the FCC wants TV manufacturers to build into their sets to block violent and mature TV programming from being viewed by children.

    The regulators also love Bob because it has created more “Channels” for police, fire, libraries, city councils, legislatures, courts, and public service messages than the other proposed systems. Bob testers complain that these channels leave little space for the data, information, and communications they expect to find on an online system. One compares Bob to a government designed version of the Yellow Pages, only duller. Another pines for the Wild West days of the unregulated online world when you didn’t have to pay virtual “parking” to your local municipality before you went shopping inside the online mall.

    If the FCC had regulated the Internet from the beginning …

  260. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Bob42 may be more tech savy than ayone here has ever supposed:

    Microsoft calls its online-unifier “Bob.”

    “This award is made purely on the technical merits,” the FCC chairman remarks.

    The FCC is particularly enamored of the “back door” that Microsoft has built into Bob, making it easier for police to monitor communications in real time. The commission also applauds Microsoft’s forward thinking because it has incorporated a virtual “V-chip” in Bob. The censoring software is analogous to the V-chip the FCC wants TV manufacturers to build into their sets to block violent and mature TV programming from being viewed by children.

    The regulators also love Bob because it has created more “Channels” for police, fire, libraries, city councils, legislatures, courts, and public service messages than the other proposed systems. Bob testers complain that these channels leave little space for the data, information, and communications they expect to find on an online system. One compares Bob to a government designed version of the Yellow Pages, only duller. Another pines for the Wild West days of the unregulated online world when you didn’t have to pay virtual “parking” to your local municipality before you went shopping inside the online mall.

    If the FCC had regulated the Internet from the beginning …

  261. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Simply put, the bailout of AIG et al should never have occurred. The beneficiaries of these funds were primarily foreign banks who bet wrong on their hedge funds and subprime mortgages which were AIG insured. Had the foreign banks been allowed to fail or suffer losses, their own governments would have been required to step up to the plate and deal with the issues. As it was, good old Uncle Sam covered the entire tab, and when he suggested to the Europeans and others that they might help if they were so inclined, they politely declined the offer. Between and among all the other insurers worldwide, there would have been plenty of capacity to absorb the “good” portions of AIG’s business, the foreign governments could have covered their own, and if necessary, we could have ingested a few of our local losses or at least guaranteed payment at some future date after the dust had settled. As it was, we borrowed straight from China or printed the money, doled it out, and watched it disappear down the rathole. Anyone who tells you we got paid back does not see what really happened. This was a terrible precedent, and even worse that it came out of a republican administration (although good hearted President Bush was probably listening to the transition team’s wishes when he did it).

  262. El Gordo Avatar

    Simply put, the bailout of AIG et al should never have occurred. The beneficiaries of these funds were primarily foreign banks who bet wrong on their hedge funds and subprime mortgages which were AIG insured. Had the foreign banks been allowed to fail or suffer losses, their own governments would have been required to step up to the plate and deal with the issues. As it was, good old Uncle Sam covered the entire tab, and when he suggested to the Europeans and others that they might help if they were so inclined, they politely declined the offer. Between and among all the other insurers worldwide, there would have been plenty of capacity to absorb the “good” portions of AIG’s business, the foreign governments could have covered their own, and if necessary, we could have ingested a few of our local losses or at least guaranteed payment at some future date after the dust had settled. As it was, we borrowed straight from China or printed the money, doled it out, and watched it disappear down the rathole. Anyone who tells you we got paid back does not see what really happened. This was a terrible precedent, and even worse that it came out of a republican administration (although good hearted President Bush was probably listening to the transition team’s wishes when he did it).

  263. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #138

    socialized medicine

    Co-worker from Canada’s M-i-L was sick in Canada for several months before she was diagnosed with some drastic form of cancer. I was surprised that her grown children didn’t even try to get her to MD Anderson in Houston, one way or another, for immediate treatment, There is no sense of medical urgency in Canada, they just seem to accept that they and their families can’t get timely treatment.

  264. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #138

    socialized medicine

    Co-worker from Canada’s M-i-L was sick in Canada for several months before she was diagnosed with some drastic form of cancer. I was surprised that her grown children didn’t even try to get her to MD Anderson in Houston, one way or another, for immediate treatment, There is no sense of medical urgency in Canada, they just seem to accept that they and their families can’t get timely treatment.

  265. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Oh, forgot to say, that woman died before her first scheduled treatment in Canada.

  266. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Oh, forgot to say, that woman died before her first scheduled treatment in Canada.

  267. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #139 Darren

    Bob42 may be more tech savy

    Say, wasn’t that Microsoft paperclip animated helper named Bob?

  268. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #139 Darren

    Bob42 may be more tech savy

    Say, wasn’t that Microsoft paperclip animated helper named Bob?

  269. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #121

    Most people did not know and still don’t seem to understand that 90% of the commercial aircraft in the world were insured by AIG and if we had not infused them with cash, air travel around the world would have halted.

    Air travel was at a complete standstill following 9/11, but that did not stop people from getting done what needed to be done. Our techs still needed the education provided at a centralized location, but could not fly there. So an immediate effort was launched to “mobilize” classes. We switched from desktops to laptops, arranged remote access to the real gear, and put mockups and the laptops in crates and shipped them around the country, trailed by instructors traveling from city to city in cars.

    The concept of the “mobile classroom” had value that persisted even after air travel was restored to its fully upright, locked, and often frustrating position. To this day, when a new class is born we consider the option of taking it on the road.

  270. bob42 Avatar

    #121

    Most people did not know and still don’t seem to understand that 90% of the commercial aircraft in the world were insured by AIG and if we had not infused them with cash, air travel around the world would have halted.

    Air travel was at a complete standstill following 9/11, but that did not stop people from getting done what needed to be done. Our techs still needed the education provided at a centralized location, but could not fly there. So an immediate effort was launched to “mobilize” classes. We switched from desktops to laptops, arranged remote access to the real gear, and put mockups and the laptops in crates and shipped them around the country, trailed by instructors traveling from city to city in cars.

    The concept of the “mobile classroom” had value that persisted even after air travel was restored to its fully upright, locked, and often frustrating position. To this day, when a new class is born we consider the option of taking it on the road.

  271. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #121 – My point exactly is that if that were the only issue (aircraft insurance) the government could have selectively guaranteed that sector of the business until replacement insurance was secured and the markets had settled down – with little or no cost to us, the taxpayer – unless you think the aircraft industry would have suddenly had a rash of claims. The balance of the company should then have been allowed to fail.

  272. El Gordo Avatar

    #121 – My point exactly is that if that were the only issue (aircraft insurance) the government could have selectively guaranteed that sector of the business until replacement insurance was secured and the markets had settled down – with little or no cost to us, the taxpayer – unless you think the aircraft industry would have suddenly had a rash of claims. The balance of the company should then have been allowed to fail.

  273. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    mharper #138;

    There is no sense of medical urgency in Canada under socialized medicine.

    I agree.

  274. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    mharper #138;

    There is no sense of medical urgency in Canada under socialized medicine.

    I agree.

  275. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    #142;

    Sorry to hear that.

  276. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    #142;

    Sorry to hear that.

  277. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    El Gordo;

    If four businesses were set up as competitors one to another and one business goes under, I see it as a big pay day for at least one of the remaining three businesses who followed a better business model.

  278. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    El Gordo;

    If four businesses were set up as competitors one to another and one business goes under, I see it as a big pay day for at least one of the remaining three businesses who followed a better business model.

  279. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico – The mother of four raised a finger, pointing out abandoned and stripped concrete homes and counting how many families have fled the Western Hemisphere’s deadliest city on her street alone.

    “One, two, three, four, here, and two more back there on the next block,” said Laura Longoria.

    The 36-year-old ran a convenience store in her working-class neighborhood in south Juarez until the owners closed shop, fed up with the tribute they were forced to pay to drug gangsters to stay in business.

    Her family vowed to stick it out. But then came the kidnapping of a teen from a stationery shop across the street. After that, Longoria’s husband, Enrique Mondragon, requested a transfer from the bus company where he works.

    “They asked, `where to,’” he recalled. “I said, `Anywhere.’”

    But not to worry, folks. Homeland Security is still mandating that their agents shove their hands down your pants to make sure you do not bring hair gel onto planes. Surely these same agents will protect our borders.

    Countless Juarez residents flee ‘dying city’

  280. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico – The mother of four raised a finger, pointing out abandoned and stripped concrete homes and counting how many families have fled the Western Hemisphere’s deadliest city on her street alone.

    “One, two, three, four, here, and two more back there on the next block,” said Laura Longoria.

    The 36-year-old ran a convenience store in her working-class neighborhood in south Juarez until the owners closed shop, fed up with the tribute they were forced to pay to drug gangsters to stay in business.

    Her family vowed to stick it out. But then came the kidnapping of a teen from a stationery shop across the street. After that, Longoria’s husband, Enrique Mondragon, requested a transfer from the bus company where he works.

    “They asked, `where to,’” he recalled. “I said, `Anywhere.’”

    But not to worry, folks. Homeland Security is still mandating that their agents shove their hands down your pants to make sure you do not bring hair gel onto planes. Surely these same agents will protect our borders.

    Countless Juarez residents flee ‘dying city’

  281. El Gordo Avatar

    Darren,

    I’m absolutely convinced that whatever world-wide economic catastrophes occurred would be pretty much over by now. Instead the world whipped out its credit card and charged these economic calamities for the future to deal with and deal with it at a more intense and serious level.

    Yup. And…

    El Gordo,

    My point exactly is that if that were the only issue (aircraft insurance) the government could have selectively guaranteed that sector of the business until replacement insurance was secured and the markets had settled down – with little or no cost to us, the taxpayer – unless you think the aircraft industry would have suddenly had a rash of claims. The balance of the company should then have been allowed to fail.

    Yup again.

    Interesting site that breaks down the beneficiaries of this sordid mess.

  282. Dude42 Avatar

    Darren,

    I’m absolutely convinced that whatever world-wide economic catastrophes occurred would be pretty much over by now. Instead the world whipped out its credit card and charged these economic calamities for the future to deal with and deal with it at a more intense and serious level.

    Yup. And…

    El Gordo,

    My point exactly is that if that were the only issue (aircraft insurance) the government could have selectively guaranteed that sector of the business until replacement insurance was secured and the markets had settled down – with little or no cost to us, the taxpayer – unless you think the aircraft industry would have suddenly had a rash of claims. The balance of the company should then have been allowed to fail.

    Yup again.

    Interesting site that breaks down the beneficiaries of this sordid mess.

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