Monday Pre-Thanksgiving Open Comments

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What preparations are underway for Turkey Day?
What are you thankful for?
Have you started your Christmas shopping yet?
Will you be taking a cigarette after passing through the TSA screening?


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Darren
Darren
November 23, 2010 12:29 am

Wow, I really liked how 42 in #116 kicked sand in 42 from #112’s face. That was good. 🙂

Darren
Darren
November 23, 2010 12:17 am

#111 Harper, do you think it would be accurate to say that the ability to openly discuss the various ways man has defined “God” over the years, and the ability to do so without fear of violent retribution had a role in shaping Western culture? Ummm, bob, what country do you live in? Christianity played no role in developing it?… Read more »

Darren
Darren
November 23, 2010 12:12 am

mharper #111;

(I quoted “crucial” because there is a bit of special meaning there.)

Very nice. 🙂

El Gordo
November 22, 2010 10:49 pm

Well, over at Big Jolly, David Jennings, whose opinions I generally respect as being well founded, posts a rebuttal to the Red State story and is supporting the Straus position. http://www.bigjolly.com/sections/texas/572-straus-foes-continue-nonsensical-assault.html One of these days maybe I’ll decide to get interested enough to find out for myself what’s really going on in Austin. Not sure that I want to know… Read more »

phil
phil
November 22, 2010 9:39 pm

NewsWeaklings got it wrong. God of The Propagandist Liberal Media is more appropriate.

mharper42
mharper42
November 22, 2010 9:21 pm

#112 Bob It hasn’t always been easy even in the West to disagree with religious authority. I think that’s what the Inquisition was all about. Something changed here with the Baby Boomers. I think it’s true that the Greatest Generation raised some of the worst kids ever — the hippies, the stoners, the flower children. The US has been soft… Read more »

mharper42
mharper42
November 22, 2010 9:09 pm

What can we do to oppose Joe Straus? I live in a gerrymandered district with a Dem state rep, no way he is any help to me in this.

Suggestions, anyone?

El Gordo
November 22, 2010 8:36 pm

Red State posts another comment opposing Straus for Speaker of the Texas House. Does he really want to stifle ordinary political commentary, such as we batter about daily on this site, and call it advertising? This is scary for Texas if true.

http://www.redstate.com/razshafer/2010/11/22/joe-straus-stands-against-free-speech/

GJT
GJT
November 22, 2010 7:51 pm

Cannot believe I’m watching Dancing With The Stars, but it’s all for a good cause – p!ssing off the libs!

Lawrence
Lawrence
November 22, 2010 7:14 pm

#96. You and that cat might ought to get a room!

bob42
November 22, 2010 6:56 pm

#111 Harper, do you think it would be accurate to say that the ability to openly discuss the various ways man has defined “God” over the years, and the ability to do so without fear of violent retribution had a role in shaping Western culture?

We owe a debt to Greek philosophy too.

Yup.

mharper42
mharper42
November 22, 2010 6:44 pm

#110 Darren You must have missed a statement I made here recently that I fully credit Judeo-Christian religion with the development of Western civ as the best place on Earth. We owe a debt to Greek philosophy too. So while I cannot agree that “God” has played a crucial role in forming the West, I do agree that a belief… Read more »

Darren
Darren
November 22, 2010 5:38 pm

mharper42 #70; It’s quite possible. Known roots from Germany, England & Scots-Irish. Some but not all may have been Catholic at some point That’s all fine and dandy but my Catholic question was in regards to your declaration that you “don’t need a god” to credit for forming western society; only ancestors. There’s no doubt Catholics played not only a… Read more »

bob42
November 22, 2010 5:38 pm

#106 Hexadecimal only includes the numbers 0-9 and the letters A-F. (Geeks are apparently more picky than UUs.) WB’s comment was transmitted to your screen in a variety of ASCII encoding known as ANSI. In Hex, it would look like this: 69 6e 66 69 64 65 6c 21 21 21 21 31 31 21 21 31 21 21 6f… Read more »

Hamous
November 22, 2010 5:32 pm

#102 tedtam – Thursdays are holy roller night at our parish too. I’ve never attended one, mainly because its in Spanish. I have a hard enough time following a regular Spanish mass much less a Spanish mass where they speak in tongues 😉

wagonburner
Editor
November 22, 2010 5:28 pm

Nope.

It’s a ASCII.

/geek humor

mharper42
mharper42
November 22, 2010 5:25 pm

Pyro? Is that a hex?

wagonburner
Editor
November 22, 2010 5:22 pm

#104 mh42
infidel!!!!11!!1!!one!!!

mharper42
mharper42
November 22, 2010 5:20 pm

#95 Dude

The conservative tent had nothing on the UU tent.

Yah, I think UU is just a social club so people who are so inclined have a place to go once a week.

mharper42
mharper42
November 22, 2010 5:17 pm

#94 Bob

And I say that as both a UU and an atheist.

So I am not the only acknowledged atheist here? Shucks.

bob42
November 22, 2010 5:04 pm

#97 Hamous, it is an interesting conversation, and I’m glad that we can have it. Let me put it to you like this. Which is more likely to happen, a typical UU welcomed in to a strongly atheist org, or a live and let live atheist being welcomed into a UU org? In the summer when the choir is off… Read more »

wagonburner
Editor
November 22, 2010 4:58 pm

#99 SC
And that idiot Bloomberg’ll prolly give it to ’em.

100

SC
SC
November 22, 2010 4:56 pm

Islamic community center developer seeks federal funding

Now the aholes want us to pay for it too. From CNN

wagonburner
Editor
November 22, 2010 4:54 pm

Once there, she nosed up to my neck and began kneading it.

And barfed.

Hamous
November 22, 2010 4:43 pm

But I’m in no way convinced that UU is “one step away from atheism,” which you have boldly declared it to be. And I say that as both a UU and an atheist.

Heh heh. I rest my case … on both the atheist/UU thing and your incoherence.

The Dude
November 22, 2010 4:34 pm

Wow. Some folks used to speak of “big tent” conservatism. The conservative tent had nothing on the UU tent.

bob42
November 22, 2010 4:33 pm

#86 Good! You’re doing your homework. From your linkie: The most recent nationwide survey to ask that question was conducted in 1987 by the UUA Commission on Appraisal, which found that 7 percent of Unitarian Universalists picked “atheist” over other options, including “humanist.” Where’s the trend? How many steps away are they? For a typical Unitarian Universalist with a vaguely… Read more »

Hamous
November 22, 2010 4:25 pm

I guy I work with flags every single one of his emails as urgent, the effect being that the recipients have no choice but to regard none of them as urgent.

When you believe in everything you believe in nothing. Dang, there it is again. One small step…

Hamous
November 22, 2010 4:21 pm

I’ve always said that if there weren’t various physical, marital, and spiritual blocks to such a union, I’d have Christie’s baby in a heartbeat.

Join the UUPAs!

bob42
November 22, 2010 4:19 pm

#83 Sarge, very roughly, if at all. And still not substantiated by any evidence. Roughly analogous to a political party organized to advocate for anarchy. If I was inclined to estimate the political leanings of UUs I’ve interacted with or the organization as a whole, it would be “liberal/democrat” by a very large margin. Anarchy my ass! You have a… Read more »

Hamous
November 22, 2010 4:09 pm

Hmmm:

In 1997, the Unitarian Universalist Association surveyed more than 8,000 active UUs and found that humanists — a category that includes agnostics and atheists — constituted 46 percent of the membership.

One step away…

Hamous
November 22, 2010 3:55 pm

Heh. The UUs even have a Swingers Auxillary.

Adee
Adee
November 22, 2010 3:45 pm

Good afternoon all. Balmy 66 this morning at 6, full Moon gracing the western sky on her way to bed, filmy clouds floating past her face and beneath her played peek-a-boo. All was still and peaceful, a lovely interlude before the day began. Hmmm, the rising anger over TSA personnel excesses and in some cases downright assaults results in pathetic… Read more »

Sarge
Sarge
November 22, 2010 3:44 pm

#76 Sarge, how bout you read my evidence and first hand experiences above, and when you get done, state your case for this completely absurd and totally unsubstantiated nonsense. Well. Guess I won’t get all huffy and tell you that I refuse. Here’s my case: Unitarian Universalism is a theologically diverse religion in which members support one another in our… Read more »

bob42
November 22, 2010 3:38 pm

On a lighter note, a long practiced tradition in my family is listening to this tune in addition to the other Arlo Guthrie classic.

wagonburner
Editor
November 22, 2010 3:35 pm

Here’s a turkey recipe for you people: Gut the dead Turkey bird that Daddy shot. Cut off it’s head and pull the feathers out. Make sure Mommy isn’t in the room or she will barf. Then Daddy drowns it in water full of 10 pounds of salt. Take the Turkey out and dry it with a towel. Sprinkle 2 cups… Read more »

bob42
November 22, 2010 3:26 pm

#78 Hammie, at the very least, I think you’re making a leap of faith with your interpretation of that quote. Yes, atheists are tolerated and welcomed, as are any theistic or deistic beliefs. But the fact of the matter remains that the growth of the atheist population in UU orgs is no higher, and often lower than the growth of… Read more »

bob42
November 22, 2010 3:19 pm

#74 WB, I stated that atheists were a small minority, and that is a fact. There is no evidence supporting your notion that there is a trend toward an atheist majority in UU congregations. None at all. Zip, zilch, nada. You and Hammie are seeing things that just aren’t there, and I suspect are confusing UUs with a larger trend… Read more »

Hamous
November 22, 2010 3:17 pm

Boy, Bobby’s more incoherent than usual today. From one of the many UU websites, but they all say pretty much about the same thing, which is “We’re the ultimate Cafeteria Religion. One step away from all-out Atheism!”: Unitarian Universalism is a theologically diverse religion in which members support one another in our individual search for truth and meaning. We have… Read more »

SC
SC
November 22, 2010 3:09 pm

#69WB

Hub cops whacked weed whiffers

LOL wonder how long it took to come up with that one. Sounds like an old Cheech & Chong reoutine

Sarge
Sarge
November 22, 2010 3:04 pm

State your case.

Gee—You always get so huffy when people ask you to do that—–

wagonburner
Editor
November 22, 2010 3:04 pm

The top commander in the Colombian insurgency, FARC, has been diagnosed with an acute case of death.

wagonburner
Editor
November 22, 2010 3:02 pm

#73 bob
You stated there are some number of UU’s who are atheist.

The remaining step toward “all-out atheism” is the remainder of UU’s becoming atheists.

bob42
November 22, 2010 2:56 pm

#67 WB, I don’t understand how you might arrive at such a conclusion. Please elaborate.

I think this proves hammie’s statement…

I see no evidence that you or hammie know what your talking about in regard to UUs. What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

State your case.