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The Greenies are trying to figure out where they went wrong:

At least three central reasons were identified.

Misanthropy. According to a veteran American Green, Stewart Brand, too many Greens believe “Nature good โ€“ humans not so good”. This approach is ultimately unpersuasive, since it is human beings you are trying to persuade. A policy focused on preventing human activity is one which defies human nature. Mark Lynas, one of the repenters, was shown in his younger days stuffing a custard pie into the face of the environmental sceptic Bjorn Lomborg. Now, he admits with shame, he was ”motivated by a sense of righteousness” which was self-regarding.

Exaggeration. If you say that the end of the world is nigh all the time, people start to disbelieve you. Paul Ehrlich talked utter rubbish about how the world would starve in the 1970s. A glorious clip showed a young but authoritative Magnus Magnusson explaining against a backdrop of artificial snow that “the new Ice Age” was upon us. Green activists give out the figure of 93,000 for deaths attributable to the Chernobyl nuclear disaster of 1986. The figure favoured by the recent UN investigation is 65. The idea that there are only a few months or years left to save the planet is both so discouraging and so untrue that it disables the cause it is supposed to galvanise. “We have got some time,” said Tim Flannery of the Copenhagen Climate Council, with heretical courage.

Damage. The most powerful part of the programme was that arguing that the Green obsession with banning and preventing things has done actual harm. The refusal to contemplate nuclear power has encouraged more use of fossil fuels and therefore โ€“ if you believe the warmist theories โ€“ more adverse climate change. The banning of pesticides has led to the deaths of millions of Africans from malaria. The obsessive hatred of GM crops led, in 2002, to the Zambian government refusing US supplies of GM food sent to relieve its people’s starvation.


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Darren
Darren
November 9, 2010 9:27 pm

That Obama sure is a uniter!

He’s also a stinker and not a thinker.

wagonburner
Editor
November 9, 2010 6:47 pm

Like this one?

We were watching it and I burst out laughing. Yellow Hair and the braves looked at me like I was crazy.

Simple Simon
Simple Simon
November 9, 2010 6:29 pm

Wagonburner,

After Two and 1/2 men…It is my favorite show.

Sheldon (actually the writers) crack some pretty good inside
jokes from the world of Physics and Astronomy.

Simple

wagonburner
Editor
squawkbox
November 9, 2010 3:59 pm

Crap forget to set the clock back an hour sunday and here I slept in till four today. Geez

Katfish
November 9, 2010 3:24 pm

#26 – Um………..er……………………..uh……..wait a sec I’ll get it…………..

Alex…………………

What is “Because “they” LIE” ?

did I win?

wagonburner
Editor
November 9, 2010 3:19 pm

Update on the unexplained missile launch off the coast of Los Angeles early this morning.

How can an unidentified missle launch 35 miles off our coast that we say was not us not be a threat to national security?

Excellent question.

wagonburner
Editor
November 9, 2010 2:55 pm

We’re all aware of the magic and wonder of the noble swine, given its ability to create bacon from table scraps and that most delectable of flavorings – pork fat.

Who knew that the swine is a meteorological prognosticator able to surpass the acres of computers of the National Weather Service?

mharper42
mharper42
November 9, 2010 12:51 pm

#7 Texmo

I’m just sayin’

The one who has the gold makes the rules.

Sarge
November 9, 2010 12:01 pm

Think we’re not bailing out California? Think again. With one in every eight workers unemployed and empty state coffers, California is borrowing billions of dollars from the federal government to pay unemployment insurance. The Los Angeles Times reports that the state owes $8.6 billion already, and will have to come up with a $362-million payment to Washington by the end… Read more »

wagonburner
Editor
November 9, 2010 11:48 am

State Rep Debbie Riddle files a bill to enact legislation similar to the controversial measure passed earlier by Arizona. She even camped out to get a low bill number so it wouldn’t get derailed by other bills as easily.

Super Dave
Super Dave
November 9, 2010 11:28 am

STD? Just pee into your phone. Nope can’t make this crap up. ๐Ÿ˜‰

wagonburner
Editor
November 9, 2010 9:57 am

An idiot out tear-a$$ing around in his car gets in an accident that severely injures a pregnant woman. A Judge wiped tears from her eyes as a woman who lost her unborn child in a crash caused by a dangerous driver told the court about the daughter she will never know. Someone should explain to her that what she thinks… Read more »

Tedtam
Admin
November 9, 2010 9:31 am

It was late last night when I posted this, so I don’t know if any of you saw it. I look at Maddow and cannot help but think “What a smug little wisser!”

And that’s being polite. I’d like to keep her picture around just so I can slap her whenever I want.

wagonburner
Editor
November 9, 2010 9:29 am

#17 bone
Much of it vanished; the matter was converted into energy. Most of the rest was likely recombined as “normal” subatomic particles (protons, neutrons, electrons, etc.). These would likely have formed the lighter elements (H, He, Li) because the energy required for fusion into anything heavier likely wasn’t there.

Just my guess.

Bonecrusher
Bonecrusher
November 9, 2010 9:17 am

#6 Pyro: One thing that I found to be glaring in its omission was a tally of the end products of the collision. Did the plasma coalesce back into lead or did other elements get formed?? Inquiring minds want to know.

Super Dave
Super Dave
November 9, 2010 9:15 am

OletimerLin

They also donโ€™t bathe very often.

Water Conservation, Doncha’ Know! ๐Ÿ˜‰

OletimerLin
OletimerLin
November 9, 2010 9:10 am

G’Morning all

#14 El Gordo, etal

They also don’t bathe very often.

El Gordo
November 9, 2010 9:01 am

If I’m not mistaken, the Greenies are also the same folks who leave tons of trash behind for others to deal with when they congregate, while those evil conservative polluters tend to pick up after themselves. The biggest difference is their lack of confidence in Mother Nature’s ability to take care of herself. Most ecological problems do better when they… Read more »

wagonburner
Editor
November 9, 2010 9:00 am

Bernanke’s QE2 program is causing great angst in the global financial markets. Major exporting countries like China & Germany are about to plotz (especially China since they own a couple trillion $’s of US Treasuries). Other nations like Brazil and Japan are schvitzing because they fear the Fed’s actions might spill over into their economies. That Obama sure is a… Read more »

wagonburner
Editor
November 9, 2010 8:28 am

hamous – the other things the Greenies are doing wrong are: Committing arson, vandalism, and other property crimes. They harm their cause when they burn down businesses, pour sugar into the gas tanks on logging equipment, riot with their pinko brethren in the streets whenever there is a political meeting, etc. Peaceful protest is one thing (merely annoying usually), but… Read more »

bob42
November 9, 2010 8:25 am

#6 WB, it looks like the LHC is getting some pretty good bang for the $9B bucks it cost. I’m sure Carl Sagan would be fascinated. Today is his birthday, btw.

wagonburner
Editor
November 9, 2010 8:12 am

The Navy is spreading mind-control chemicals off the coast of California again.

Super Dave
Super Dave
November 9, 2010 7:53 am

texmo I got a Doe (Big 110 Lbs) my huntin’ buddy got a spike 90 Lbs so we have sausage! Son-in-Law saw a big 9 pointer but he was just across the logging road on neighbor’s property. We say lots of deer but the rut hasn’t started yet. This was the best weekend ever for weather 30 on Sat, high… Read more »

Southern Tragedy
Southern Tragedy
November 9, 2010 7:50 am

#5 Tim: I thought the 1st step was denial. I’m pretty sure they won’t be able to get past 1…..

TexMo
TexMo
November 9, 2010 7:37 am

#4 Mharper

I want to have my house paid off before I even entertain the idea of acquiring land somewhere and that is still a few years out.

wagonburner
Editor
November 9, 2010 7:35 am
GJT
GJT
November 9, 2010 7:34 am

Grief Counselors Flood Capitol Hill. Counselors help Democrats work through the five stages of grief: 1) Blame Bush 2) Anger (Why didnโ€™t those idiotic voters understand our message?) 3) Bargaining (From โ€œI wonโ€ to โ€œokay, maybe we can work things out between usโ€) 4) Depression (The country is on the brink of a depression; see #1) 5) Acceptance (Yes, it… Read more »

mharper42
mharper42
November 9, 2010 7:28 am

Texmo, make your relative an offer for the land. Then you can decide who does what there.

TexMo
TexMo
November 9, 2010 7:23 am

#1 SD Did you bag anything? I just found out over the weekend that my great-uncle has lined up a buyer for his 150 acres in central Texas. I am really upset because of my sentimental attachment to that land. It is where I learned to shoot BB guns. I then progressed on to .22s. Then I started wing shooting… Read more »

TexMo
TexMo
November 9, 2010 7:17 am

The only national carbon trading market in the U.S. will close its doors next month, due to stalled legislation in Congress and Republican gains in the midterm elections — a major setback in efforts to regulate so-called greenhouse gases, which environmentalists argue contribute to global warming What a shame. We will not longer be able to trade carbon credits in… Read more »

Super Dave
Super Dave
November 9, 2010 7:08 am

Mornin’ Gang
Back from the Deer Lease had a great weekend!

Darren
Darren
November 9, 2010 9:27 pm

That Obama sure is a uniter!

He’s also a stinker and not a thinker.

Katfish
November 9, 2010 6:47 pm

Like this one?

We were watching it and I burst out laughing. Yellow Hair and the braves looked at me like I was crazy.

Simple Simon
Simple Simon
November 9, 2010 6:29 pm

Wagonburner,

After Two and 1/2 men…It is my favorite show.

Sheldon (actually the writers) crack some pretty good inside
jokes from the world of Physics and Astronomy.

Simple

bweldon
November 9, 2010 3:59 pm

Crap forget to set the clock back an hour sunday and here I slept in till four today. Geez

Texpat
Admin
November 9, 2010 3:24 pm

#26 – Um………..er……………………..uh……..wait a sec I’ll get it…………..

Alex…………………

What is “Because “they” LIE” ?

did I win?

Katfish
November 9, 2010 3:19 pm

Update on the unexplained missile launch off the coast of Los Angeles early this morning.

How can an unidentified missle launch 35 miles off our coast that we say was not us not be a threat to national security?

Excellent question.

Katfish
November 9, 2010 2:55 pm

We’re all aware of the magic and wonder of the noble swine, given its ability to create bacon from table scraps and that most delectable of flavorings – pork fat.

Who knew that the swine is a meteorological prognosticator able to surpass the acres of computers of the National Weather Service?

mharper42
mharper42
November 9, 2010 12:51 pm

#7 Texmo

I’m just sayin’

The one who has the gold makes the rules.

Sarge
Sarge
November 9, 2010 12:01 pm

Think we’re not bailing out California? Think again. With one in every eight workers unemployed and empty state coffers, California is borrowing billions of dollars from the federal government to pay unemployment insurance. The Los Angeles Times reports that the state owes $8.6 billion already, and will have to come up with a $362-million payment to Washington by the end… Read more »

Katfish
November 9, 2010 11:48 am

State Rep Debbie Riddle files a bill to enact legislation similar to the controversial measure passed earlier by Arizona. She even camped out to get a low bill number so it wouldn’t get derailed by other bills as easily.

texanadian
texanadian
November 9, 2010 11:28 am

STD? Just pee into your phone. Nope can’t make this crap up. ๐Ÿ˜‰

Katfish
November 9, 2010 9:57 am

An idiot out tear-a$$ing around in his car gets in an accident that severely injures a pregnant woman. A Judge wiped tears from her eyes as a woman who lost her unborn child in a crash caused by a dangerous driver told the court about the daughter she will never know. Someone should explain to her that what she thinks… Read more »

Tedtam
Admin
November 9, 2010 9:31 am

It was late last night when I posted this, so I don’t know if any of you saw it. I look at Maddow and cannot help but think “What a smug little wisser!”

And that’s being polite. I’d like to keep her picture around just so I can slap her whenever I want.

Katfish
November 9, 2010 9:29 am

#17 bone
Much of it vanished; the matter was converted into energy. Most of the rest was likely recombined as “normal” subatomic particles (protons, neutrons, electrons, etc.). These would likely have formed the lighter elements (H, He, Li) because the energy required for fusion into anything heavier likely wasn’t there.

Just my guess.