Tuesday Open Comments

The Greenies are trying to figure out where they went wrong:

At least three central reasons were identified.

Misanthropy. According to a veteran American Green, Stewart Brand, too many Greens believe “Nature good – humans not so good”. This approach is ultimately unpersuasive, since it is human beings you are trying to persuade. A policy focused on preventing human activity is one which defies human nature. Mark Lynas, one of the repenters, was shown in his younger days stuffing a custard pie into the face of the environmental sceptic Bjorn Lomborg. Now, he admits with shame, he was ”motivated by a sense of righteousness” which was self-regarding.

Exaggeration. If you say that the end of the world is nigh all the time, people start to disbelieve you. Paul Ehrlich talked utter rubbish about how the world would starve in the 1970s. A glorious clip showed a young but authoritative Magnus Magnusson explaining against a backdrop of artificial snow that “the new Ice Age” was upon us. Green activists give out the figure of 93,000 for deaths attributable to the Chernobyl nuclear disaster of 1986. The figure favoured by the recent UN investigation is 65. The idea that there are only a few months or years left to save the planet is both so discouraging and so untrue that it disables the cause it is supposed to galvanise. “We have got some time,” said Tim Flannery of the Copenhagen Climate Council, with heretical courage.

Damage. The most powerful part of the programme was that arguing that the Green obsession with banning and preventing things has done actual harm. The refusal to contemplate nuclear power has encouraged more use of fossil fuels and therefore – if you believe the warmist theories – more adverse climate change. The banning of pesticides has led to the deaths of millions of Africans from malaria. The obsessive hatred of GM crops led, in 2002, to the Zambian government refusing US supplies of GM food sent to relieve its people’s starvation.


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  1. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Mornin’ Gang
    Back from the Deer Lease had a great weekend!

  2. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Mornin’ Gang
    Back from the Deer Lease had a great weekend!

  3. TexMo Avatar
    TexMo

    The only national carbon trading market in the U.S. will close its doors next month, due to stalled legislation in Congress and Republican gains in the midterm elections — a major setback in efforts to regulate so-called greenhouse gases, which environmentalists argue contribute to global warming

    What a shame. We will not longer be able to trade carbon credits in dollars. Good riddance CCX

  4. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #1 SD

    Did you bag anything? I just found out over the weekend that my great-uncle has lined up a buyer for his 150 acres in central Texas. I am really upset because of my sentimental attachment to that land. It is where I learned to shoot BB guns. I then progressed on to .22s. Then I started wing shooting with a single shot, bolt action 20 gauge. I even bagged some whitetails there.

    I really do not understand why he wants to sell it. He stopped going out there on a daily basis at least 5 years ago. He leases the land to neighbors to run cattle or plant a winter oat crop. He even leases out the prime spots to deer hunters. My dad and I have been relegated to 2nd and 3rd tier spots on the property for years. I never minded though because I always enjoyed the outings.

  5. TexMo Avatar
    TexMo

    #1 SD

    Did you bag anything? I just found out over the weekend that my great-uncle has lined up a buyer for his 150 acres in central Texas. I am really upset because of my sentimental attachment to that land. It is where I learned to shoot BB guns. I then progressed on to .22s. Then I started wing shooting with a single shot, bolt action 20 gauge. I even bagged some whitetails there.

    I really do not understand why he wants to sell it. He stopped going out there on a daily basis at least 5 years ago. He leases the land to neighbors to run cattle or plant a winter oat crop. He even leases out the prime spots to deer hunters. My dad and I have been relegated to 2nd and 3rd tier spots on the property for years. I never minded though because I always enjoyed the outings.

  6. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Texmo, make your relative an offer for the land. Then you can decide who does what there.

  7. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Texmo, make your relative an offer for the land. Then you can decide who does what there.

  8. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Grief Counselors Flood Capitol Hill.
    Counselors help Democrats work through the five stages of grief:

    1) Blame Bush

    2) Anger (Why didn’t those idiotic voters understand our message?)

    3) Bargaining (From “I won” to “okay, maybe we can work things out between us”)

    4) Depression (The country is on the brink of a depression; see #1)

    5) Acceptance (Yes, it was Bush’s fault)

  9. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Grief Counselors Flood Capitol Hill.
    Counselors help Democrats work through the five stages of grief:

    1) Blame Bush

    2) Anger (Why didn’t those idiotic voters understand our message?)

    3) Bargaining (From “I won” to “okay, maybe we can work things out between us”)

    4) Depression (The country is on the brink of a depression; see #1)

    5) Acceptance (Yes, it was Bush’s fault)

  10. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    #4 Mharper

    I want to have my house paid off before I even entertain the idea of acquiring land somewhere and that is still a few years out.

  11. TexMo Avatar
    TexMo

    #4 Mharper

    I want to have my house paid off before I even entertain the idea of acquiring land somewhere and that is still a few years out.

  12. Robert M Avatar
    Robert M

    #5 Tim: I thought the 1st step was denial. I’m pretty sure they won’t be able to get past 1…..

  13. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    #5 Tim: I thought the 1st step was denial. I’m pretty sure they won’t be able to get past 1…..

  14. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    texmo I got a Doe (Big 110 Lbs) my huntin’ buddy got a spike 90 Lbs so we have sausage! Son-in-Law saw a big 9 pointer but he was just across the logging road on neighbor’s property. We say lots of deer but the rut hasn’t started yet. This was the best weekend ever for weather 30 on Sat, high 65, 32 Sun, high 68 and 36, Mon high 72. 😀

  15. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    texmo I got a Doe (Big 110 Lbs) my huntin’ buddy got a spike 90 Lbs so we have sausage! Son-in-Law saw a big 9 pointer but he was just across the logging road on neighbor’s property. We say lots of deer but the rut hasn’t started yet. This was the best weekend ever for weather 30 on Sat, high 65, 32 Sun, high 68 and 36, Mon high 72. 😀

  16. Katfish Avatar

    The Navy is spreading mind-control chemicals off the coast of California again.

  17. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    The Navy is spreading mind-control chemicals off the coast of California again.

  18. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #6 WB, it looks like the LHC is getting some pretty good bang for the $9B bucks it cost. I’m sure Carl Sagan would be fascinated. Today is his birthday, btw.

  19. bob42 Avatar

    #6 WB, it looks like the LHC is getting some pretty good bang for the $9B bucks it cost. I’m sure Carl Sagan would be fascinated. Today is his birthday, btw.

  20. Katfish Avatar

    hamous – the other things the Greenies are doing wrong are:

    Committing arson, vandalism, and other property crimes. They harm their cause when they burn down businesses, pour sugar into the gas tanks on logging equipment, riot with their pinko brethren in the streets whenever there is a political meeting, etc. Peaceful protest is one thing (merely annoying usually), but robbing people of their livelihoods is different.

    Coerce State and Federal lawmakers to pass laws and regulations that severely limit property rights due to ill-defined environmental concerns. Tens of thousands of acres of valuable farmland in California have been rendered unusable because of these environmental regulations. Unemployment in the Central Valley of California is well above 25%. The Greenies destroyed the economy of the area, then returned to their cocktail parties and congratulated themselves on how much good they did.

    In the case of the wealthy Greenies, not practicing what they preach. We’re constantly told we’re in an environmental crisis and we need to change our ways immediately, but these people then hop on their private jets and go to Bora Bora to have a climate conference. As Instapundit says, “I’ll start to believe it’s a crisis when the people who are telling me it’s a crisis start acting like it’s a crisis.

  21. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    hamous – the other things the Greenies are doing wrong are:

    Committing arson, vandalism, and other property crimes. They harm their cause when they burn down businesses, pour sugar into the gas tanks on logging equipment, riot with their pinko brethren in the streets whenever there is a political meeting, etc. Peaceful protest is one thing (merely annoying usually), but robbing people of their livelihoods is different.

    Coerce State and Federal lawmakers to pass laws and regulations that severely limit property rights due to ill-defined environmental concerns. Tens of thousands of acres of valuable farmland in California have been rendered unusable because of these environmental regulations. Unemployment in the Central Valley of California is well above 25%. The Greenies destroyed the economy of the area, then returned to their cocktail parties and congratulated themselves on how much good they did.

    In the case of the wealthy Greenies, not practicing what they preach. We’re constantly told we’re in an environmental crisis and we need to change our ways immediately, but these people then hop on their private jets and go to Bora Bora to have a climate conference. As Instapundit says, “I’ll start to believe it’s a crisis when the people who are telling me it’s a crisis start acting like it’s a crisis.

  22. Katfish Avatar

    Bernanke’s QE2 program is causing great angst in the global financial markets. Major exporting countries like China & Germany are about to plotz (especially China since they own a couple trillion $’s of US Treasuries). Other nations like Brazil and Japan are schvitzing because they fear the Fed’s actions might spill over into their economies.

    That Obama sure is a uniter!

  23. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Bernanke’s QE2 program is causing great angst in the global financial markets. Major exporting countries like China & Germany are about to plotz (especially China since they own a couple trillion $’s of US Treasuries). Other nations like Brazil and Japan are schvitzing because they fear the Fed’s actions might spill over into their economies.

    That Obama sure is a uniter!

  24. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    If I’m not mistaken, the Greenies are also the same folks who leave tons of trash behind for others to deal with when they congregate, while those evil conservative polluters tend to pick up after themselves. The biggest difference is their lack of confidence in Mother Nature’s ability to take care of herself. Most ecological problems do better when they are just left alone, but then the do-gooders would have to admit that they are powerless and that their worldview is wrong – which they are not about to do.

  25. El Gordo Avatar

    If I’m not mistaken, the Greenies are also the same folks who leave tons of trash behind for others to deal with when they congregate, while those evil conservative polluters tend to pick up after themselves. The biggest difference is their lack of confidence in Mother Nature’s ability to take care of herself. Most ecological problems do better when they are just left alone, but then the do-gooders would have to admit that they are powerless and that their worldview is wrong – which they are not about to do.

  26. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    G’Morning all

    #14 El Gordo, etal

    They also don’t bathe very often.

  27. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    G’Morning all

    #14 El Gordo, etal

    They also don’t bathe very often.

  28. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    OletimerLin

    They also don’t bathe very often.

    Water Conservation, Doncha’ Know! 😉

  29. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    OletimerLin

    They also don’t bathe very often.

    Water Conservation, Doncha’ Know! 😉

  30. Hamous Avatar

    #6 Pyro: One thing that I found to be glaring in its omission was a tally of the end products of the collision. Did the plasma coalesce back into lead or did other elements get formed?? Inquiring minds want to know.

  31. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #6 Pyro: One thing that I found to be glaring in its omission was a tally of the end products of the collision. Did the plasma coalesce back into lead or did other elements get formed?? Inquiring minds want to know.

  32. Katfish Avatar

    #17 bone
    Much of it vanished; the matter was converted into energy. Most of the rest was likely recombined as “normal” subatomic particles (protons, neutrons, electrons, etc.). These would likely have formed the lighter elements (H, He, Li) because the energy required for fusion into anything heavier likely wasn’t there.

    Just my guess.

  33. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #17 bone
    Much of it vanished; the matter was converted into energy. Most of the rest was likely recombined as “normal” subatomic particles (protons, neutrons, electrons, etc.). These would likely have formed the lighter elements (H, He, Li) because the energy required for fusion into anything heavier likely wasn’t there.

    Just my guess.

  34. Tedtam Avatar

    It was late last night when I posted this, so I don’t know if any of you saw it. I look at Maddow and cannot help but think “What a smug little wisser!”

    And that’s being polite. I’d like to keep her picture around just so I can slap her whenever I want.

  35. Tedtam Avatar

    It was late last night when I posted this, so I don’t know if any of you saw it. I look at Maddow and cannot help but think “What a smug little wisser!”

    And that’s being polite. I’d like to keep her picture around just so I can slap her whenever I want.

  36. Katfish Avatar

    An idiot out tear-a$$ing around in his car gets in an accident that severely injures a pregnant woman.

    A Judge wiped tears from her eyes as a woman who lost her unborn child in a crash caused by a dangerous driver told the court about the daughter she will never know.

    Someone should explain to her that what she thinks of as her daughter was really a clump of parasitic cells.

    Or a carrot.

    /sarc

  37. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    An idiot out tear-a$$ing around in his car gets in an accident that severely injures a pregnant woman.

    A Judge wiped tears from her eyes as a woman who lost her unborn child in a crash caused by a dangerous driver told the court about the daughter she will never know.

    Someone should explain to her that what she thinks of as her daughter was really a clump of parasitic cells.

    Or a carrot.

    /sarc

  38. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    STD? Just pee into your phone. Nope can’t make this crap up. 😉

  39. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    STD? Just pee into your phone. Nope can’t make this crap up. 😉

  40. Katfish Avatar

    State Rep Debbie Riddle files a bill to enact legislation similar to the controversial measure passed earlier by Arizona. She even camped out to get a low bill number so it wouldn’t get derailed by other bills as easily.

  41. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    State Rep Debbie Riddle files a bill to enact legislation similar to the controversial measure passed earlier by Arizona. She even camped out to get a low bill number so it wouldn’t get derailed by other bills as easily.

  42. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Think we’re not bailing out California?

    Think again.

    With one in every eight workers unemployed and empty state coffers, California is borrowing billions of dollars from the federal government to pay unemployment insurance.

    The Los Angeles Times reports that the state owes $8.6 billion already, and will have to come up with a $362-million payment to Washington by the end of next September.

    The continued borrowing means federal unemployment insurance taxes are going to increase, upping the annual payroll costs $21 a year per worker.

    While some folks might think loaning our money to a client as credit worthy as California is a good idea, I wonder if the people we borrow money from to lend it to them think so.

  43. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Think we’re not bailing out California?

    Think again.

    With one in every eight workers unemployed and empty state coffers, California is borrowing billions of dollars from the federal government to pay unemployment insurance.

    The Los Angeles Times reports that the state owes $8.6 billion already, and will have to come up with a $362-million payment to Washington by the end of next September.

    The continued borrowing means federal unemployment insurance taxes are going to increase, upping the annual payroll costs $21 a year per worker.

    While some folks might think loaning our money to a client as credit worthy as California is a good idea, I wonder if the people we borrow money from to lend it to them think so.

  44. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #7 Texmo

    I’m just sayin’

    The one who has the gold makes the rules.

  45. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #7 Texmo

    I’m just sayin’

    The one who has the gold makes the rules.

  46. Katfish Avatar

    We’re all aware of the magic and wonder of the noble swine, given its ability to create bacon from table scraps and that most delectable of flavorings – pork fat.

    Who knew that the swine is a meteorological prognosticator able to surpass the acres of computers of the National Weather Service?

  47. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    We’re all aware of the magic and wonder of the noble swine, given its ability to create bacon from table scraps and that most delectable of flavorings – pork fat.

    Who knew that the swine is a meteorological prognosticator able to surpass the acres of computers of the National Weather Service?

  48. Katfish Avatar

    Update on the unexplained missile launch off the coast of Los Angeles early this morning.

    How can an unidentified missle launch 35 miles off our coast that we say was not us not be a threat to national security?

    Excellent question.

  49. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Update on the unexplained missile launch off the coast of Los Angeles early this morning.

    How can an unidentified missle launch 35 miles off our coast that we say was not us not be a threat to national security?

    Excellent question.

  50. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #26 – Um………..er……………………..uh……..wait a sec I’ll get it…………..

    Alex…………………

    What is “Because “they” LIE” ?

    did I win?

  51. Katfish Avatar

    #26 – Um………..er……………………..uh……..wait a sec I’ll get it…………..

    Alex…………………

    What is “Because “they” LIE” ?

    did I win?

  52. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Crap forget to set the clock back an hour sunday and here I slept in till four today. Geez

  53. squawkbox Avatar

    Crap forget to set the clock back an hour sunday and here I slept in till four today. Geez

  54. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    Wagonburner,

    After Two and 1/2 men…It is my favorite show.

    Sheldon (actually the writers) crack some pretty good inside
    jokes from the world of Physics and Astronomy.

    Simple

  55. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    Wagonburner,

    After Two and 1/2 men…It is my favorite show.

    Sheldon (actually the writers) crack some pretty good inside
    jokes from the world of Physics and Astronomy.

    Simple

  56. Katfish Avatar

    Like this one?

    We were watching it and I burst out laughing. Yellow Hair and the braves looked at me like I was crazy.

  57. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Like this one?

    We were watching it and I burst out laughing. Yellow Hair and the braves looked at me like I was crazy.

  58. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    That Obama sure is a uniter!

    He’s also a stinker and not a thinker.

  59. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    That Obama sure is a uniter!

    He’s also a stinker and not a thinker.

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