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Did you think we were done bailing out the UAW?  Think again:

The new General Motors Corp. is trying to heighten interest in its sale of about $10 billion in stock held by its rescuers – the United Auto Workers health care trust fund and the governments of Canada, the United States and the province of Ontario.

Buyers will get an unusual bonus: the little-noticed forgiveness of about $45 billion in future federal income tax obligations to offset past losses and expenses of various kinds – a second bite of the bailout apple.

Writing off debt is nothing unusual. Most companies are allowed to do it – unless they went through bankruptcy as GM and Chrysler did. GM wrote off $80 billion in debt through bankruptcy. Now they’ll get to write off another $45 billion while Ford, who weathered the financial storm without taking TARP money or filing for bankruptcy, will get no tax relief for $27 billion in debt. Punish the private industry successes while rewarding the government-run failures. It’s the socialist way.

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  1. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Anyone who is surprised at this conniving, raise your hand. Another topic for which Pubbies can issue subpoenas when mere invitations to a hearing are declined. The list continues to grow.

  2. Adee Avatar
    Adee

    Anyone who is surprised at this conniving, raise your hand. Another topic for which Pubbies can issue subpoenas when mere invitations to a hearing are declined. The list continues to grow.

  3. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    I’m glad to see this!

    Decent people denying indecency. Good for them.

  4. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    I’m glad to see this!

    Decent people denying indecency. Good for them.

  5. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #2 – Even when local residents DON’T get involved there are 208,743 Patriot Guard Riders nationwide who regularly “shield” all Warrior’s families from the scumbag U.G.s (aka uninvited guests – PGR will not even mention their name)

    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-RAH!!!

  6. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    #2 – Even when local residents DON’T get involved there are 208,743 Patriot Guard Riders nationwide who regularly “shield” all Warrior’s families from the scumbag U.G.s (aka uninvited guests – PGR will not even mention their name)

    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-RAH!!!

  7. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    G’Morning all

    And they have a small problem with quality…………………Notice that 5 out of the worst 7 are GM and Chrysler

    From Consumer Reports

    2010 Worst cars:
    1. Jeep Wrangler
    3. Jeep Liberty Sport
    5. Chevrolet Aveo5 1LT
    6. Dodge Nitro SLT
    7. Chevrolet Aveo LT

  8. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    G’Morning all

    And they have a small problem with quality…………………Notice that 5 out of the worst 7 are GM and Chrysler

    From Consumer Reports

    2010 Worst cars:
    1. Jeep Wrangler
    3. Jeep Liberty Sport
    5. Chevrolet Aveo5 1LT
    6. Dodge Nitro SLT
    7. Chevrolet Aveo LT

  9. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    The American Kennel Club poll shows the Labrador Retriever is America’s favorite dog. The type varies by region. New England is the Red Lab, out West is the Silver Lab,

    and Houston is the Meth Lab.

  10. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    The American Kennel Club poll shows the Labrador Retriever is America’s favorite dog. The type varies by region. New England is the Red Lab, out West is the Silver Lab,

    and Houston is the Meth Lab.

  11. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #2 Tedtam, the supreme court is expected to rule on the free speech issue early next year. It’s one thing when a fruitcake like Pat Robertson, or a snake oil salesman like Jerry Fallwell use tragedies to pimp their fundamentalism. It quite another when it’s aimed at specific families grieving the loss of a loved one. Regardless of the ruling, I applaud people coming together and peacefully using their right to speak freely to put these kooks in their rightful place, obscurity.

    Fred W. Phelps founded the Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kansas in 1955 and has been the only pastor of the church since its inception. The church membership consists of approximately 60 or 70 members, 50 of whom are related to Phelps. The church members practice a “fire and brimstone” fundamentalist religious faith. They believe that God hates homosexuals and punishes America for its tolerance of homosexuality by killing American soldiers, and established the website http://www.godhatesfags.com to publicize their views. Church members began picketing funerals of fallen soldiers to draw attention to their religious beliefs several years ago and have increasingly picketed funerals to attract media attention.

    I bet they talk about how much they hate gays while enjoying shrimp cocktails.

  12. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    #2 Tedtam, the supreme court is expected to rule on the free speech issue early next year. It’s one thing when a fruitcake like Pat Robertson, or a snake oil salesman like Jerry Fallwell use tragedies to pimp their fundamentalism. It quite another when it’s aimed at specific families grieving the loss of a loved one. Regardless of the ruling, I applaud people coming together and peacefully using their right to speak freely to put these kooks in their rightful place, obscurity.

    Fred W. Phelps founded the Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kansas in 1955 and has been the only pastor of the church since its inception. The church membership consists of approximately 60 or 70 members, 50 of whom are related to Phelps. The church members practice a “fire and brimstone” fundamentalist religious faith. They believe that God hates homosexuals and punishes America for its tolerance of homosexuality by killing American soldiers, and established the website http://www.godhatesfags.com to publicize their views. Church members began picketing funerals of fallen soldiers to draw attention to their religious beliefs several years ago and have increasingly picketed funerals to attract media attention.

    I bet they talk about how much they hate gays while enjoying shrimp cocktails.

  13. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    People seem worried about the expiration of the Bush tax cuts, yet the Fed’s quantitative easing (printing unlimited dollars to buy government bonds since the world’s appetite for US debt instruments seems to be sated), has already devalued the dollar (which in turn means increased costs) more than the tax cut even thought about doing. Sugar is up almost 60% in the past month, and all other basic commodities are rising. There is a glut of oil and refined gasoline, yet the devalued dollar causes the price to rise at the pump. I would like to say that of all the irresponsible acts this administration has pulled, this is the worst (and it well may be), but it is just another in its never ending effort to destroy our economy, our currency, and our will be free.

  14. El Gordo Avatar
    El Gordo

    People seem worried about the expiration of the Bush tax cuts, yet the Fed’s quantitative easing (printing unlimited dollars to buy government bonds since the world’s appetite for US debt instruments seems to be sated), has already devalued the dollar (which in turn means increased costs) more than the tax cut even thought about doing. Sugar is up almost 60% in the past month, and all other basic commodities are rising. There is a glut of oil and refined gasoline, yet the devalued dollar causes the price to rise at the pump. I would like to say that of all the irresponsible acts this administration has pulled, this is the worst (and it well may be), but it is just another in its never ending effort to destroy our economy, our currency, and our will be free.

  15. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    I can’t help but think that the Obama regime is just one big fart blowing all over America.

    And going global.

  16. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    I can’t help but think that the Obama regime is just one big fart blowing all over America.

    And going global.

  17. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    Gordo,

    I dunno, but my investments and 401K have never looked better. My company is on a
    hiring spree. I know that the things don’t look so good for the 9-16% unemployed and the folks who are upside-down in their mortgages, but things aint all that bad either.

    Simple

  18. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    Gordo,

    I dunno, but my investments and 401K have never looked better. My company is on a
    hiring spree. I know that the things don’t look so good for the 9-16% unemployed and the folks who are upside-down in their mortgages, but things aint all that bad either.

    Simple

  19. El Gordo Avatar
    El Gordo

    I know that the things don’t look so good for the 9-16% unemployed and the folks who are upside-down in their mortgages, but things aint all that bad either.

    I think we’re in significantly worse shape than it appears from the surface and that we’ve been led to believe.

  20. The Dude Avatar
    The Dude

    I know that the things don’t look so good for the 9-16% unemployed and the folks who are upside-down in their mortgages, but things aint all that bad either.

    I think we’re in significantly worse shape than it appears from the surface and that we’ve been led to believe.

  21. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    #9 – Have you ever heard of “pump and dump?” The market is reacting to all that freshly printed money chasing the fixed amount of product. I was around for the Carter period, and he wasn’t nearly as dangerous as this guy. My commodity investments are looking good right now too – that’s called hedging against inflation. Inflation can make things look good even when they are now – (see recent housing bubble/burst for example).

    Just be prepared.

  22. El Gordo Avatar
    El Gordo

    #9 – Have you ever heard of “pump and dump?” The market is reacting to all that freshly printed money chasing the fixed amount of product. I was around for the Carter period, and he wasn’t nearly as dangerous as this guy. My commodity investments are looking good right now too – that’s called hedging against inflation. Inflation can make things look good even when they are now – (see recent housing bubble/burst for example).

    Just be prepared.

  23. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Yeah, well when the aliens return in about 2 years and find out what we’ve done to their cousins (Mayans) for the last 500 years they will be none too happy, let me tell you. Unless your investments can repel proton torpedoes they won’t be of much use 😉

  24. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    Yeah, well when the aliens return in about 2 years and find out what we’ve done to their cousins (Mayans) for the last 500 years they will be none too happy, let me tell you. Unless your investments can repel proton torpedoes they won’t be of much use 😉

  25. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #10 – Yessiree…………………………anything currently “looking Rosy” is just that – only on the surface………….and only “looking” favorable

  26. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    #10 – Yessiree…………………………anything currently “looking Rosy” is just that – only on the surface………….and only “looking” favorable

  27. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Who needs a search warrant when you have regulatory authoritah to “inspect” places of business. Naturally, they used SWAT teams to keep citizens safe from unlicensed barbers.

    As many as 14 armed Orange County deputies, including narcotics agents, stormed Strictly Skillz barbershop during business hours on a Saturday in August, handcuffing barbers in front of customers during a busy back-to-school weekend.

    It was just one of a series of unprecedented raid-style inspections the Orange County Sheriff’s Office recently conducted with a state regulating agency, targeting several predominantly black- and Hispanic-owned barbershops in the Pine Hills area.

  28. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    Who needs a search warrant when you have regulatory authoritah to “inspect” places of business. Naturally, they used SWAT teams to keep citizens safe from unlicensed barbers.

    As many as 14 armed Orange County deputies, including narcotics agents, stormed Strictly Skillz barbershop during business hours on a Saturday in August, handcuffing barbers in front of customers during a busy back-to-school weekend.

    It was just one of a series of unprecedented raid-style inspections the Orange County Sheriff’s Office recently conducted with a state regulating agency, targeting several predominantly black- and Hispanic-owned barbershops in the Pine Hills area.

  29. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Who needs a search warrant when you have regulatory authoritah to “inspect” places of business. Naturally, they used SWAT teams to keep citizens safe from unlicensed barbers.

    Yah.

    It was unlicensed barbers that they were after.\

    The operations were conducted without warrants, under the authority of the Department of Business and Professional Regulation inspectors, who can enter salons at will. Deputies said they found evidence of illegal activity, including guns, drugs and gambling. However, records show that during the two sweeps, and a smaller one in October, just three people were charged with anything other than a licensing violation.

    This sounds to me more like an emulation of Rudy Giuliani’s approach to crime stopping using a “quality of life” approach.

  30. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Who needs a search warrant when you have regulatory authoritah to “inspect” places of business. Naturally, they used SWAT teams to keep citizens safe from unlicensed barbers.

    Yah.

    It was unlicensed barbers that they were after.\

    The operations were conducted without warrants, under the authority of the Department of Business and Professional Regulation inspectors, who can enter salons at will. Deputies said they found evidence of illegal activity, including guns, drugs and gambling. However, records show that during the two sweeps, and a smaller one in October, just three people were charged with anything other than a licensing violation.

    This sounds to me more like an emulation of Rudy Giuliani’s approach to crime stopping using a “quality of life” approach.

  31. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    On another track, I just got back from my companies insurance info meeting for 2011 and guess what…

    My costs are going up
    My deductables are going up
    My office visit co-pays are going up
    My drug co-pays are going up

    But I get free preventative care visits,
    and My life time max is now unlimited.

    And people are asking why and wherefore, it is simple for us ,

    1) an aging workforce that had higher costs this year (not much I can do about that other than be in business for myself.)
    2) Obama care mandating the unlimited max (Won’t save me one red cent)
    3) Obama care mandatingthe preventative care being covered. (saves me $100 a year)

    So I will be out at least $400 more next year for less coverage. Thank you Washington DC.

  32. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    On another track, I just got back from my companies insurance info meeting for 2011 and guess what…

    My costs are going up
    My deductables are going up
    My office visit co-pays are going up
    My drug co-pays are going up

    But I get free preventative care visits,
    and My life time max is now unlimited.

    And people are asking why and wherefore, it is simple for us ,

    1) an aging workforce that had higher costs this year (not much I can do about that other than be in business for myself.)
    2) Obama care mandating the unlimited max (Won’t save me one red cent)
    3) Obama care mandatingthe preventative care being covered. (saves me $100 a year)

    So I will be out at least $400 more next year for less coverage. Thank you Washington DC.

  33. SC Avatar
    SC

    #15 sarge, doesn’t the fact there was no warrant kind of defeat the purpose? It seems all the evidence would be thrown out.

  34. SC Avatar
    SC

    #15 sarge, doesn’t the fact there was no warrant kind of defeat the purpose? It seems all the evidence would be thrown out.

  35. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #16 – I’ll trade you neighbor!

    I’m currently “up” over a $1000 per yr………………

  36. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    #16 – I’ll trade you neighbor!

    I’m currently “up” over a $1000 per yr………………

  37. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #9 Simple

    Looking good on paper isn’t the whole story. Your savings total dollars may go up while the value of the dollar itself drops. IOW, inflation.

  38. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #9 Simple

    Looking good on paper isn’t the whole story. Your savings total dollars may go up while the value of the dollar itself drops. IOW, inflation.

  39. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    Seems the authority of the regulatory agencies would be limited to inspecting for things related to the business and the health & safety of workers & clientele. In the case of a hair styling business, things like proper disinfection chemicals and techniques, proper storage of chemicals, general cleanliness, proper licensing, etc.

    If they happen to notice a cache of drugs or illicit weapons, they could then call the appropriate law enforcement agencies, who would then have probable cause, warrants, etc.

  40. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Seems the authority of the regulatory agencies would be limited to inspecting for things related to the business and the health & safety of workers & clientele. In the case of a hair styling business, things like proper disinfection chemicals and techniques, proper storage of chemicals, general cleanliness, proper licensing, etc.

    If they happen to notice a cache of drugs or illicit weapons, they could then call the appropriate law enforcement agencies, who would then have probable cause, warrants, etc.

  41. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    #18, Kat

    Yeah but what % does your company cover? I know the total costs are up over $1500 per employee, and those numbers do not include the increase in vision and dental that are coming along.

  42. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    #18, Kat

    Yeah but what % does your company cover? I know the total costs are up over $1500 per employee, and those numbers do not include the increase in vision and dental that are coming along.

  43. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #17 SC, chances are good that there will not be trials for the handful of possession charges that resulted from that massive waste of money. The “perps” are more likely to plea down. But fear not, the cops will still get credit for the bust, make their stats, and the federal dollars will keep coming in. These would be the same federal dollars that were used to pay for the paramilitary law enforcement under the last four presidents.

    #20 This might be how it should work, but it doesn’t work that way. “Limited” authoritah? That’s pretty funny.

    Seems the authority of the regulatory agencies would be limited to inspecting for things related to the business and the health & safety of workers & clientele.

    Had the armed bureaucrats decided to raid some high priced hair salons, or five star restaurants, or bars frequented by congress critters, staffers, and lobbyists, they’d be sure to find some contraband there too.

    Funny how you never hear about them raiding those places, ain’t it?

  44. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    #17 SC, chances are good that there will not be trials for the handful of possession charges that resulted from that massive waste of money. The “perps” are more likely to plea down. But fear not, the cops will still get credit for the bust, make their stats, and the federal dollars will keep coming in. These would be the same federal dollars that were used to pay for the paramilitary law enforcement under the last four presidents.

    #20 This might be how it should work, but it doesn’t work that way. “Limited” authoritah? That’s pretty funny.

    Seems the authority of the regulatory agencies would be limited to inspecting for things related to the business and the health & safety of workers & clientele.

    Had the armed bureaucrats decided to raid some high priced hair salons, or five star restaurants, or bars frequented by congress critters, staffers, and lobbyists, they’d be sure to find some contraband there too.

    Funny how you never hear about them raiding those places, ain’t it?

  45. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    19 mharper,

    You would have a good point if you were talking about a CD or a Bond Fund, but my investments are well balanced and I am up 19% for the year so far. I was slightly positive last year which was pretty good considering most folks were down by 9%.

    Someone made a comment about Pump and Dumps…Any stock that I buy is automatically covered with a stop loss order and I don’t buy anything without doing my due dilligence on their financials.

    It is true that a World Com or Enron can cook the books, but I never get greedy on a good thing and put all my eggs in one basket.

    Ms Simple and I have been thru three major stock market crashes, the stagnant 70’s, and hyperinflation. All these things will come and go again just like sunrise and sunset. It is arrogant to think we can control the markets..

    Simple

  46. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    19 mharper,

    You would have a good point if you were talking about a CD or a Bond Fund, but my investments are well balanced and I am up 19% for the year so far. I was slightly positive last year which was pretty good considering most folks were down by 9%.

    Someone made a comment about Pump and Dumps…Any stock that I buy is automatically covered with a stop loss order and I don’t buy anything without doing my due dilligence on their financials.

    It is true that a World Com or Enron can cook the books, but I never get greedy on a good thing and put all my eggs in one basket.

    Ms Simple and I have been thru three major stock market crashes, the stagnant 70’s, and hyperinflation. All these things will come and go again just like sunrise and sunset. It is arrogant to think we can control the markets..

    Simple

  47. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    16 bweldon,

    Same happened to me. My daughter and her husband are teachers for Klein ISD and they just saw their deductable (per person) go to $2000.00

    It is frustrating to me to see both parties do so little to help contain costs. The R’s prescription drug bill during the Bush years did nothing to contain costs and Obama care is worse.

    I am adopting a wait and see attitude with the newly elected Congress, but my attitude is pessimistic about any positive change happening this term.

    Simple

  48. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    16 bweldon,

    Same happened to me. My daughter and her husband are teachers for Klein ISD and they just saw their deductable (per person) go to $2000.00

    It is frustrating to me to see both parties do so little to help contain costs. The R’s prescription drug bill during the Bush years did nothing to contain costs and Obama care is worse.

    I am adopting a wait and see attitude with the newly elected Congress, but my attitude is pessimistic about any positive change happening this term.

    Simple

  49. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    On a lighter note.

  50. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    On a lighter note.

  51. El Gordo Avatar
    El Gordo

    It is arrogant to think we can control the markets..

    Who said anything about controlling the markets?

  52. The Dude Avatar
    The Dude

    It is arrogant to think we can control the markets..

    Who said anything about controlling the markets?

  53. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #21 – BW in all honesty I’ve not dug any deeper at this point.

    If there are any added benefits in the dental or eyesight realm I’ve not been notified (BC/BS did not offer either of the 2 prior to this specifically worded increase that was exactly labeled “as a result of most recent health care legislation”)

    My deductible remains at $2500 per year is the only item I know for sure at this point.

    OH I forgot – my coverage is 80/20 on whatever they say they’ll cover………….

  54. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    #21 – BW in all honesty I’ve not dug any deeper at this point.

    If there are any added benefits in the dental or eyesight realm I’ve not been notified (BC/BS did not offer either of the 2 prior to this specifically worded increase that was exactly labeled “as a result of most recent health care legislation”)

    My deductible remains at $2500 per year is the only item I know for sure at this point.

    OH I forgot – my coverage is 80/20 on whatever they say they’ll cover………….

  55. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    17 SC says:
    November 8, 2010 at 11:33 am
    #15 sarge, doesn’t the fact there was no warrant kind of defeat the purpose? It seems all the evidence would be thrown out.

    Nope. They are in places that are open to the public, and therefore there is a lesser expectation of privacy than inside a home or dwelling.

    20 wagonburner says:
    November 8, 2010 at 12:05 pm
    Seems the authority of the regulatory agencies would be limited to inspecting for things related to the business and the health & safety of workers & clientele. In the case of a hair styling business, things like proper disinfection chemicals and techniques, proper storage of chemicals, general cleanliness, proper licensing, etc.

    If they happen to notice a cache of drugs or illicit weapons, they could then call the appropriate law enforcement agencies, who would then have probable cause, warrants, etc.

    You missed some important information:

    As many as 14 armed Orange County deputies, including narcotics agents, stormed Strictly Skillz barbershop during business hours on a Saturday in August, handcuffing barbers in front of customers during a busy back-to-school weekend.

    This is the kind of thing Guliani did. He pioneered the concept of having reps from multiple agencies and jurisdictions present at these kinds of raids. There’s generally LEOs from the city, county, regulatory agencies, and sometimes the Feds.

    22 bob42 says:
    November 8, 2010 at 12:16 pm
    #17 SC, chances are good that there will not be trials for the handful of possession charges that resulted from that massive waste of money. The “perps” are more likely to plea down. But fear not, the cops will still get credit for the bust, make their stats, and the federal dollars will keep coming in. These would be the same federal dollars that were used to pay for the paramilitary law enforcement under the last four presidents.

    Bobby seems to think that the cops sit anround and think this stuff up over a cup of coffe down at Dunkin Donuts. In the real world, these are results of complaints of citizens—whom I guess Bobby thinks shoiuld be ignored. If you look at crime stats in NYC before and after Guliani’s quality of living campaign, the cost to benfit ration of this kind of Law Enforcement is a whole lot easier to understand.

    When you’ve got places where crooks think they are safe, they will congregate there and it will be at the expense of the local population.

    Had the armed bureaucrats decided to raid some high priced hair salons, or five star restaurants, or bars frequented by congress critters, staffers, and lobbyists, they’d be sure to find some contraband there too.

    Funny how you never hear about them raiding those places, ain’t it?

    I’m all for surprise raids on Congress critters, and if LEOs get complaints about drug dealing and gambling in high priced hair salons and five star restaurants, then they will raid those too. Somehow, I doubt they will be getting those complaints, and there’s nothing nefarious about that.

  56. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    17 SC says:
    November 8, 2010 at 11:33 am
    #15 sarge, doesn’t the fact there was no warrant kind of defeat the purpose? It seems all the evidence would be thrown out.

    Nope. They are in places that are open to the public, and therefore there is a lesser expectation of privacy than inside a home or dwelling.

    20 wagonburner says:
    November 8, 2010 at 12:05 pm
    Seems the authority of the regulatory agencies would be limited to inspecting for things related to the business and the health & safety of workers & clientele. In the case of a hair styling business, things like proper disinfection chemicals and techniques, proper storage of chemicals, general cleanliness, proper licensing, etc.

    If they happen to notice a cache of drugs or illicit weapons, they could then call the appropriate law enforcement agencies, who would then have probable cause, warrants, etc.

    You missed some important information:

    As many as 14 armed Orange County deputies, including narcotics agents, stormed Strictly Skillz barbershop during business hours on a Saturday in August, handcuffing barbers in front of customers during a busy back-to-school weekend.

    This is the kind of thing Guliani did. He pioneered the concept of having reps from multiple agencies and jurisdictions present at these kinds of raids. There’s generally LEOs from the city, county, regulatory agencies, and sometimes the Feds.

    22 bob42 says:
    November 8, 2010 at 12:16 pm
    #17 SC, chances are good that there will not be trials for the handful of possession charges that resulted from that massive waste of money. The “perps” are more likely to plea down. But fear not, the cops will still get credit for the bust, make their stats, and the federal dollars will keep coming in. These would be the same federal dollars that were used to pay for the paramilitary law enforcement under the last four presidents.

    Bobby seems to think that the cops sit anround and think this stuff up over a cup of coffe down at Dunkin Donuts. In the real world, these are results of complaints of citizens—whom I guess Bobby thinks shoiuld be ignored. If you look at crime stats in NYC before and after Guliani’s quality of living campaign, the cost to benfit ration of this kind of Law Enforcement is a whole lot easier to understand.

    When you’ve got places where crooks think they are safe, they will congregate there and it will be at the expense of the local population.

    Had the armed bureaucrats decided to raid some high priced hair salons, or five star restaurants, or bars frequented by congress critters, staffers, and lobbyists, they’d be sure to find some contraband there too.

    Funny how you never hear about them raiding those places, ain’t it?

    I’m all for surprise raids on Congress critters, and if LEOs get complaints about drug dealing and gambling in high priced hair salons and five star restaurants, then they will raid those too. Somehow, I doubt they will be getting those complaints, and there’s nothing nefarious about that.

  57. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    WH Press Secretary Robert Gibbs puts his best diplomatic foot forward in India.

  58. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    WH Press Secretary Robert Gibbs puts his best diplomatic foot forward in India.

  59. SC Avatar
    SC

    Regarding the barber raids a thought just came over me. Can you imagin all those customers with half cut hair watching as their barber is frog matched out in cuffs?

  60. SC Avatar
    SC

    Regarding the barber raids a thought just came over me. Can you imagin all those customers with half cut hair watching as their barber is frog matched out in cuffs?

  61. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Watching FOX news a while ago and I’ve got a question:

    Did Susan Estrich use to be Carol Channing?

    Just wondering.

  62. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Watching FOX news a while ago and I’ve got a question:

    Did Susan Estrich use to be Carol Channing?

    Just wondering.

  63. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    She does have an unusually gravelly voice.

    And that doesn’t even include what she is saying.

    BTW, gravelly is defined as “having a rough or grating sound” in case anyone wonders whether I misspelled somthing there.

  64. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    She does have an unusually gravelly voice.

    And that doesn’t even include what she is saying.

    BTW, gravelly is defined as “having a rough or grating sound” in case anyone wonders whether I misspelled somthing there.

  65. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #30 SC

    customers with half cut hair

    Guess that’s a risk you run when having your hair cut by an unlicensed barber in a dope den.

  66. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #30 SC

    customers with half cut hair

    Guess that’s a risk you run when having your hair cut by an unlicensed barber in a dope den.

  67. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Sarge, do you really think this is a good idea? Does sending a dozen LEOs to inspect raid barber shops make sense from a fiscal conservative perspective, considering that the “yield” from three such raids was three petty possession charges?

    This is the kind of thing Guliani did. He pioneered the concept of having reps from multiple agencies and jurisdictions present at these kinds of raids. There’s generally LEOs from the city, county, regulatory agencies, and sometimes the Feds.

    If you answered yes to any of the above, I think you sound far more like an authoritarian than a fiscal conservative.

    Bobby seems to think that the cops sit anround and think this stuff up over a cup of coffe down at Dunkin Donuts. In the real world, these are results of complaints of citizens—whom I guess Bobby thinks shoiuld be ignored.

    I’ve read every article I could find on those raids. Have you? In them, I find not a single mention of a citizen complaint being the cause of the raids. But you don’t seem to let silly little things like facts get in your way, now do you?

    A prejudiced presumption is a sorry excuse for a rational argument. Maybe you should do your homework before you blast other people’s research.

  68. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    Sarge, do you really think this is a good idea? Does sending a dozen LEOs to inspect raid barber shops make sense from a fiscal conservative perspective, considering that the “yield” from three such raids was three petty possession charges?

    This is the kind of thing Guliani did. He pioneered the concept of having reps from multiple agencies and jurisdictions present at these kinds of raids. There’s generally LEOs from the city, county, regulatory agencies, and sometimes the Feds.

    If you answered yes to any of the above, I think you sound far more like an authoritarian than a fiscal conservative.

    Bobby seems to think that the cops sit anround and think this stuff up over a cup of coffe down at Dunkin Donuts. In the real world, these are results of complaints of citizens—whom I guess Bobby thinks shoiuld be ignored.

    I’ve read every article I could find on those raids. Have you? In them, I find not a single mention of a citizen complaint being the cause of the raids. But you don’t seem to let silly little things like facts get in your way, now do you?

    A prejudiced presumption is a sorry excuse for a rational argument. Maybe you should do your homework before you blast other people’s research.

  69. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Speaking of sorry excuses for a rational argument:

    Guess that’s a risk you run when having your hair cut by an unlicensed barber in a dope den.

    But I’ll give Mharper42 the benefit of the doubt. I suspect she was making a joke.

    btw, I’m (again) today’s featured writer at thespoof.com! (Don’t worry, when I’m rich and famous I won’t forget all the little people. Especially Sargie.)

  70. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    Speaking of sorry excuses for a rational argument:

    Guess that’s a risk you run when having your hair cut by an unlicensed barber in a dope den.

    But I’ll give Mharper42 the benefit of the doubt. I suspect she was making a joke.

    btw, I’m (again) today’s featured writer at thespoof.com! (Don’t worry, when I’m rich and famous I won’t forget all the little people. Especially Sargie.)

  71. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Sarge, do you really think this is a good idea? Does sending a dozen LEOs to inspect raid barber shops make sense from a fiscal conservative perspective, considering that the “yield” from three such raids was three petty possession charges?

    Yes. I emphatically DO think its a good idea.

    I used to think it was a bad idea, just like I used to think that Ronald Reagan was a dangerous warmonger who would spark a nuclear war with Russia.

    In both cases, the results is what converted me.

    When Time’s editors put Rudy Giuliani on their cover and made him “Person of the Year” they were celebrating Rudy’s finest hour: from 9/11 on. But New Yorkers have special reason to remember Mayor Giuliani, not only for what he did in his last months in office, but for what he did the seven and three-quarter years before.

    Over that time Mr. Giuliani oversaw a transformation of the city, one made possible by an unprecedented reduction in crime. Since 1993, New York’s murder rate has dropped 70%. Rape is down by 40% and robbery is off by more than 68%. There are 74% fewer auto thefts in Gotham these days and 71% fewer shooting victims. For six years running, the FBI has ranked New York the safest large city in the country.

    THAT, my freind, is a cost/benefit ratio resulting from small busts and improving quality of life in neighborhoods by arresting low lifes—even if it is for small busts.

    This did not happen in a vacuum, Bobby.

    Somebody living in the neighborhoods where these shops were selling drugs and gambling called the cops and said they didn’t want to raise their kids in that kind of neighborhood.

  72. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Sarge, do you really think this is a good idea? Does sending a dozen LEOs to inspect raid barber shops make sense from a fiscal conservative perspective, considering that the “yield” from three such raids was three petty possession charges?

    Yes. I emphatically DO think its a good idea.

    I used to think it was a bad idea, just like I used to think that Ronald Reagan was a dangerous warmonger who would spark a nuclear war with Russia.

    In both cases, the results is what converted me.

    When Time’s editors put Rudy Giuliani on their cover and made him “Person of the Year” they were celebrating Rudy’s finest hour: from 9/11 on. But New Yorkers have special reason to remember Mayor Giuliani, not only for what he did in his last months in office, but for what he did the seven and three-quarter years before.

    Over that time Mr. Giuliani oversaw a transformation of the city, one made possible by an unprecedented reduction in crime. Since 1993, New York’s murder rate has dropped 70%. Rape is down by 40% and robbery is off by more than 68%. There are 74% fewer auto thefts in Gotham these days and 71% fewer shooting victims. For six years running, the FBI has ranked New York the safest large city in the country.

    THAT, my freind, is a cost/benefit ratio resulting from small busts and improving quality of life in neighborhoods by arresting low lifes—even if it is for small busts.

    This did not happen in a vacuum, Bobby.

    Somebody living in the neighborhoods where these shops were selling drugs and gambling called the cops and said they didn’t want to raise their kids in that kind of neighborhood.

  73. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    We probably should be mentioneing here, Bobby, the kinds of disease that can be spread through improperly cleaned barber shop implements.

    Lice is just at the top of the list. There are those that are spread when cuts are made in one person and the same tool cuts another person.

    Health and Safety are two of the very unreasonable things us authoritiarians see as reasons to interfere with some Free Associations.

  74. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    We probably should be mentioneing here, Bobby, the kinds of disease that can be spread through improperly cleaned barber shop implements.

    Lice is just at the top of the list. There are those that are spread when cuts are made in one person and the same tool cuts another person.

    Health and Safety are two of the very unreasonable things us authoritiarians see as reasons to interfere with some Free Associations.

  75. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    I give up Sargie. You win.

    Somebody living in the neighborhoods where these shops were selling drugs and gambling called the cops and said they didn’t want to raise their kids in that kind of neighborhood.

    Your arguments are undeniably true because you declare them to be undeniably true. Facts be damned, full speed ahead!

  76. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    I give up Sargie. You win.

    Somebody living in the neighborhoods where these shops were selling drugs and gambling called the cops and said they didn’t want to raise their kids in that kind of neighborhood.

    Your arguments are undeniably true because you declare them to be undeniably true. Facts be damned, full speed ahead!

  77. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Your arguments are undeniably true because you declare them to be undeniably true. Facts be damned, full speed ahead!

    Thanks.

    You’ve finally given another person’s arguments the same status as you’ve always given yours.

    Its an improvement.

  78. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Your arguments are undeniably true because you declare them to be undeniably true. Facts be damned, full speed ahead!

    Thanks.

    You’ve finally given another person’s arguments the same status as you’ve always given yours.

    Its an improvement.

  79. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    I say we remove all childhood from childhood.

    Or just give birth to adults. Then we can be done with it all.

  80. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    I say we remove all childhood from childhood.

    Or just give birth to adults. Then we can be done with it all.

  81. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    #40 TT: WISS’IN nanny state stickin’ their wissin’ noses where they don’t belong!~#$@!#$
    /cusses some more and spits.
    The only solution is to vote these wiss’in rectums out of office and never forget, never let them back in. Do not give the opportunity to push/force their will on anyone else ever.

  82. Bonecrusher Avatar
    Bonecrusher

    #40 TT: WISS’IN nanny state stickin’ their wissin’ noses where they don’t belong!~#$@!#$
    /cusses some more and spits.
    The only solution is to vote these wiss’in rectums out of office and never forget, never let them back in. Do not give the opportunity to push/force their will on anyone else ever.

  83. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Sargie, citizens are complaining about the raids. Duh! Look it up.

    Somebody living in the neighborhoods where these shops were selling drugs and gambling called the cops and said they didn’t want to raise their kids in that kind of neighborhood.

    If you aren’t willing to do your homework and substantiate that bit of irrational nonsense, I suggest that you stick that biased, uninformed opinion exactly where it came from. (It’s stinking up the place.)

    But don’t worry, you still win the debate. You’ve proven that your lame arguments do not deserve a rational response.

  84. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    Sargie, citizens are complaining about the raids. Duh! Look it up.

    Somebody living in the neighborhoods where these shops were selling drugs and gambling called the cops and said they didn’t want to raise their kids in that kind of neighborhood.

    If you aren’t willing to do your homework and substantiate that bit of irrational nonsense, I suggest that you stick that biased, uninformed opinion exactly where it came from. (It’s stinking up the place.)

    But don’t worry, you still win the debate. You’ve proven that your lame arguments do not deserve a rational response.

  85. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Time for a little laugh… Look at the title of this article

  86. bweldon Avatar
    bweldon

    Time for a little laugh… Look at the title of this article

  87. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    If you aren’t willing to do your homework and substantiate that bit of irrational nonsense, I suggest that you stick that biased, uninformed opinion exactly where it came from. (It’s stinking up the place.)

    Wait–

    Its irrational to say that the police act on complaints.

    Buty its not irrational to say:

    Naturally, they used SWAT teams to keep citizens safe from unlicensed barbers.

    Got it.

    Let’s end this one now, Bobby.

    Nobody really likes this kind of exchange.

    \My only problem is that I can’t seem to let you get away with your more outrageous claims of subjugation and oppression.

  88. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    If you aren’t willing to do your homework and substantiate that bit of irrational nonsense, I suggest that you stick that biased, uninformed opinion exactly where it came from. (It’s stinking up the place.)

    Wait–

    Its irrational to say that the police act on complaints.

    Buty its not irrational to say:

    Naturally, they used SWAT teams to keep citizens safe from unlicensed barbers.

    Got it.

    Let’s end this one now, Bobby.

    Nobody really likes this kind of exchange.

    \My only problem is that I can’t seem to let you get away with your more outrageous claims of subjugation and oppression.

  89. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    #44 Sarge

    \My only problem is that I can’t seem to let you get away with your more outrageous claims of subjugation and oppression.

    Just think of his claims as soap bubbles. If you just leave them alone, they pop and disappear on their own. But if you keep encouraging him to blow more bubbles, then they never go away.

  90. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    #44 Sarge

    \My only problem is that I can’t seem to let you get away with your more outrageous claims of subjugation and oppression.

    Just think of his claims as soap bubbles. If you just leave them alone, they pop and disappear on their own. But if you keep encouraging him to blow more bubbles, then they never go away.

  91. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #45 Tetam, when Sargie can substantiate this, I’ll be more than happy to burst my own bubbles.

    Somebody living in the neighborhoods where these shops were selling drugs and gambling called the cops and said they didn’t want to raise their kids in that kind of neighborhood.

  92. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    #45 Tetam, when Sargie can substantiate this, I’ll be more than happy to burst my own bubbles.

    Somebody living in the neighborhoods where these shops were selling drugs and gambling called the cops and said they didn’t want to raise their kids in that kind of neighborhood.

  93. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    I’m wondering how WB would report THIS PLAY if he saw it at an LC game…………..

  94. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    I’m wondering how WB would report THIS PLAY if he saw it at an LC game…………..

  95. SC Avatar
    SC

    47 I saw that earlier. Perfect execution. LOL

  96. SC Avatar
    SC

    47 I saw that earlier. Perfect execution. LOL

  97. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    God BLESS that there edit button!

  98. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    God BLESS that there edit button!

  99. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    #47 Katfishy

    PERFECT! 😀

  100. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    #47 Katfishy

    PERFECT! 😀

  101. meglettx Avatar
    meglettx

    Susan Estrich has had some SERIOUS plastic surgery. I remember watching her years ago and noting how homely looking she was – she definitely had a face that was taylor-made for radio. I saw her on TV recently and only recognized her by that “gravelly” voice. Give that surgeon a medal!

  102. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    Susan Estrich has had some SERIOUS plastic surgery. I remember watching her years ago and noting how homely looking she was – she definitely had a face that was taylor-made for radio. I saw her on TV recently and only recognized her by that “gravelly” voice. Give that surgeon a medal!

  103. meglettx Avatar
    meglettx

    BTW Ham, nice blog you got here.

  104. Lawrence Avatar
    Lawrence

    BTW Ham, nice blog you got here.

  105. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    #47 kf
    That was cool. That QB was a great actor.

    I wonder if they had to tip the refs off?

    At the LC game, the kicker for CR missed the ball on a kickoff. The ball went about two feet and everyone just stood there looking at it for several seconds. Finally a CR player dove on it, which was a penalty because the ball didn’t go ten yards and nobody from LC touched it. 1st & 10 LC at th CR 41 1/2 yard line.

  106. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #47 kf
    That was cool. That QB was a great actor.

    I wonder if they had to tip the refs off?

    At the LC game, the kicker for CR missed the ball on a kickoff. The ball went about two feet and everyone just stood there looking at it for several seconds. Finally a CR player dove on it, which was a penalty because the ball didn’t go ten yards and nobody from LC touched it. 1st & 10 LC at th CR 41 1/2 yard line.

  107. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #35 Bob

    Don’t give me any doubful benefits. Yes, I was trying to be funny, but at the same time I had no sympathy for customers at that dope barber shop who had their trims interrupted.

    Lie down with dogs and get up with fleas — or as Sarge mentioned, lice etc.

  108. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Bob clearly thinks it’s good, right & The American Way for the police to let drug dealing flourish in low income neighborhoods. Give ’em their freedom, man! They don’t need no stinking barber training or license. Plus it saves us money on LEO budgets.

    His link led me to another, which I will not cite here because it was full of obscenities and the N-word, claiming that barber shops have become a preferred front for drug dealing in the ghetto.

  109. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Bob clearly thinks it’s good, right & The American Way for the police to let drug dealing flourish in low income neighborhoods. Give ’em their freedom, man! They don’t need no stinking barber training or license. Plus it saves us money on LEO budgets.

    His link led me to another, which I will not cite here because it was full of obscenities and the N-word, claiming that barber shops have become a preferred front for drug dealing in the ghetto.

  110. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #53 My link was to a simple google search.

  111. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    #53 My link was to a simple google search.

  112. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Sorry Lowrents. I just got home and was able to approve your first comment.

  113. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    Sorry Lowrents. I just got home and was able to approve your first comment.

  114. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Bob, go back to your Google search and scroll down just a bit.

    I kept scrolling down because I didn’t see anything at the top that seemed to support your allegation that no one from the neighborhood had complained about drugs being dealt from a barber shop. All I saw at the top were MSM newspaper reports about outrageous cop raid. Along the lines of what would be expected here from the HouChron.

    Sorry everyone if I am helping Bob blow bubbles or whatever…

  115. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Bob, go back to your Google search and scroll down just a bit.

    I kept scrolling down because I didn’t see anything at the top that seemed to support your allegation that no one from the neighborhood had complained about drugs being dealt from a barber shop. All I saw at the top were MSM newspaper reports about outrageous cop raid. Along the lines of what would be expected here from the HouChron.

    Sorry everyone if I am helping Bob blow bubbles or whatever…

  116. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    #58 mh42

    Sorry everyone if I am helping Bob blow bubbles or whatever…

    Here’s some visual aid for you.

  117. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #58 mh42

    Sorry everyone if I am helping Bob blow bubbles or whatever…

    Here’s some visual aid for you.

  118. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Thanks, Pyro, I liked the duck bubbles

  119. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Thanks, Pyro, I liked the duck bubbles

  120. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    Lawrence! You found your way back!

  121. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    Lawrence! You found your way back!

  122. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    I never liked Maddow, anyway, so this puts a smile on my face.

  123. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    I never liked Maddow, anyway, so this puts a smile on my face.

  124. Super Dave Avatar
    Super Dave

    Why is it that no matter what the topic this blog always winds up talking about drugs?

  125. El Gordo Avatar
    El Gordo

    Why is it that no matter what the topic this blog always winds up talking about drugs?

  126. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I think Tedtam’s #8 pinpointed the source of global warming.

  127. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    I think Tedtam’s #8 pinpointed the source of global warming.

  128. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    The Dude #10;

    I agree things are worse than appear. Bernanke swore under oath before Congress that the FED would not monetize our debt only to later go forth and direct the FED to monetize our debt. Monetizing one’s own debt is the stupidest financial decision to make. It makes the economy looks pretty for a while but there’s no real foundation to the prettiness. It’s more illusional than real. I don’t think it’s possible to avoid the consequences of debt and that’s what the federal governent’s been doing for decades. They’ve done so by running up the national debt and no one wants ot take the necessary action to correct it since that’ll introduce reality immediately as opposed to delaying it and making it worse in the future.

  129. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    The Dude #10;

    I agree things are worse than appear. Bernanke swore under oath before Congress that the FED would not monetize our debt only to later go forth and direct the FED to monetize our debt. Monetizing one’s own debt is the stupidest financial decision to make. It makes the economy looks pretty for a while but there’s no real foundation to the prettiness. It’s more illusional than real. I don’t think it’s possible to avoid the consequences of debt and that’s what the federal governent’s been doing for decades. They’ve done so by running up the national debt and no one wants ot take the necessary action to correct it since that’ll introduce reality immediately as opposed to delaying it and making it worse in the future.

  130. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Wait, didn’t Rachel Maddow assure us on Friday that, unlike those mercenary wingnuts at Fox News who let Republican guests pitch donation URLs on the air, MSNBC is “not a political operation”? Six full minutes of fact-checkin’ fun here via Johnny Dollar, who not only spent hours piecing this lowlight reel together but has an accompanying post delving further into the hypocrisy.

    LOL! Great video clip to boot. Kudos to Johnny Dollar.

    LINK

  131. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Wait, didn’t Rachel Maddow assure us on Friday that, unlike those mercenary wingnuts at Fox News who let Republican guests pitch donation URLs on the air, MSNBC is “not a political operation”? Six full minutes of fact-checkin’ fun here via Johnny Dollar, who not only spent hours piecing this lowlight reel together but has an accompanying post delving further into the hypocrisy.

    LOL! Great video clip to boot. Kudos to Johnny Dollar.

    LINK

  132. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    British health officials are hard at work on a new app that will allow users to pee into their cell phones and find out within minutes if they have an STD.

    😯

    LINK

  133. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    British health officials are hard at work on a new app that will allow users to pee into their cell phones and find out within minutes if they have an STD.

    😯

    LINK

  134. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Come to think of it, haven’t the “instructions” to avoid STDs been around forever?

  135. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Come to think of it, haven’t the “instructions” to avoid STDs been around forever?

  136. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    The Ninja Babies are sitting up. Whoahoo!!!

    LINK

  137. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    The Ninja Babies are sitting up. Whoahoo!!!

    LINK

  138. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Kansas is ranked second in the nation behind Montana for wind energy potential, a fact which should have environmentalists jumping for joy. Instead, they’re trying to block the construction of transmission lines to wind farms in south central Kansas and north central Oklahoma.

    I guess Obama hasn’t communicated effectively enough about the need to go green.

    LINK

    Why? Well it all has to do with the lesser prairie chicken. According to a story by the Hutchinson News in February of this year, ranchers and wildlife officials in the area are teaming up with groups like the Sierra Club to block the construction of the lines, which would apparently run through prime breeding territory for the bird.

    Then again an enlightened nation shouldn’t interfere with the lesser prairie chicken.

  139. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Kansas is ranked second in the nation behind Montana for wind energy potential, a fact which should have environmentalists jumping for joy. Instead, they’re trying to block the construction of transmission lines to wind farms in south central Kansas and north central Oklahoma.

    I guess Obama hasn’t communicated effectively enough about the need to go green.

    LINK

    Why? Well it all has to do with the lesser prairie chicken. According to a story by the Hutchinson News in February of this year, ranchers and wildlife officials in the area are teaming up with groups like the Sierra Club to block the construction of the lines, which would apparently run through prime breeding territory for the bird.

    Then again an enlightened nation shouldn’t interfere with the lesser prairie chicken.

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