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The Democrat Party seems to be all in a tizzy over undisclosed donations to conservative non-profit groups:

“Groups that receive foreign money are spending huge sums to influence American elections — and they won’t tell you where the money for those ads comes from,” Obama said at a rally in Maryland. “So this isn’t just a threat to Democrats. This is a threat to our democracy.”

And nationalizing private industries is good for our democracy? Anyway, Democrats don’t seem to have a problem with undisclosed donations from their groups. Take the Democracy Alliance Click Expand on the Map Tools bar to the left of the diagram to see the whole thing. You can also click on one box, George Soros for instance, and expand his relationships.


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  1. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Well I woke up early.

    Read the Hometwon Newspaper, and guess what was at the top of the page:

    State takes infant, spurs protest

    Wherein we find some new information:

    DCYF asked for the case to be moved from family court in Concord to the family court in Dover, citing that court’s familiarity with the family involved.

    Their battle with DCYF dates back to January of last year, Taylor said, when the state welfare agency took her other two children, boys who are now 2 and 3, for alleged abuse and neglect.

    The boys currently live with a foster family, and Irish said he was told baby Cheyenne will go to live with the same family for now.

    DCYF is legally prohibited from discussing child welfare cases. A spokesman for the Department of Health and Human Services said it can’t even confirm a child was taken into custody at Concord Hospital.

    snip

    Taylor said she is seeking a divorce from her sons’ father, who lives in Seabrook. But because she is still married to him, DCYF considers her husband to be the “legal father” of baby Cheyenne, according to the affidavit.

    OK. In addition to the other stuff we found out about John Irish we find out that her other two kids from the man she’s still married to have been living in foster care since Obama took his oath of office.

    Bored to freaking tears because it was 5:00 AM, I did some more checking, and this came up.

    But according to an affidavit provided to Irish by the state Division for Children, Youth and Families, state officials took the child because of Irish’s long record of violence and abuse. According to the affidavit, a judge determined that Irish abused Janvrin’s two other children. She is still married to the father of those children, though Janvrin said yesterday that her husband has refused to accept her divorce petition for the past two years.

    The affidavit also says that the police in Rochester report a “lengthy history of domestic violence” between Janvrin and Irish, and that she accused him of choking and hitting her on more than one occasion. According to the document, Irish failed to complete a domestic violence course as ordered by the state, and that a hearing was held last month to terminate Janvrin’s parental rights over her two older children.

    Janvrin “has failed to recognize the impact of domestic violence in her life and the potential danger it poses to a newborn baby,” the affidavit reads. “Mr. Irish has not acknowledged any responsibility to date and remains a significant safety risk to an infant in his care. . . . Without the intervention of the court, the infant will be at risk of harm.”

    Now, much has been made on forums, etc, about Paragraph #7 of the document ST linked to seemed to be different than the rest of the document. Turns out that last night Alex Jones (who I will NOT link to) admits that it is part of another document. Furthermore, the docyument ST linked to is a request for a Change of Venue and the “other document” (which, to my knowledge, we DO NOT yet have a complete copy of) is an Affadavit, presumably the one referenced in the Concord Monitor story above.

    Oathkeepers has not released an Update or further statement since last night. They do say that Irish faxed them some documents.

    But this looks more and more like a scam somebody is running. Either Irish is running it himself (possibly to make money from a Legal Defense Fund), or Alex Jones is possibly jerking things around in order to increase the hit count on his website and You Tube channel so he can get more ad revenue.

    Look:

    The gummint is as screwed up as a soup sammich, but its not running some massive conspiracy to enslave us. People make money from internet ads, donations to thier websites or organizations, or they are just plain nutzo. Ramos and Compeon really did shoot that guy and they really did try to cover it up. Erik Scott really was on drugs and he really did reach for his gun. John Irish and Stepanie Taylor really are bad parents and they really deserve to have thier children taken away.

    Giving credence to any of the “massive conspiracy” theories surrounding these cases without doing a lot of investigation only makes us look bad.

  2. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    Well I woke up early.

    Read the Hometwon Newspaper, and guess what was at the top of the page:

    State takes infant, spurs protest

    Wherein we find some new information:

    DCYF asked for the case to be moved from family court in Concord to the family court in Dover, citing that court’s familiarity with the family involved.

    Their battle with DCYF dates back to January of last year, Taylor said, when the state welfare agency took her other two children, boys who are now 2 and 3, for alleged abuse and neglect.

    The boys currently live with a foster family, and Irish said he was told baby Cheyenne will go to live with the same family for now.

    DCYF is legally prohibited from discussing child welfare cases. A spokesman for the Department of Health and Human Services said it can’t even confirm a child was taken into custody at Concord Hospital.

    snip

    Taylor said she is seeking a divorce from her sons’ father, who lives in Seabrook. But because she is still married to him, DCYF considers her husband to be the “legal father” of baby Cheyenne, according to the affidavit.

    OK. In addition to the other stuff we found out about John Irish we find out that her other two kids from the man she’s still married to have been living in foster care since Obama took his oath of office.

    Bored to freaking tears because it was 5:00 AM, I did some more checking, and this came up.

    But according to an affidavit provided to Irish by the state Division for Children, Youth and Families, state officials took the child because of Irish’s long record of violence and abuse. According to the affidavit, a judge determined that Irish abused Janvrin’s two other children. She is still married to the father of those children, though Janvrin said yesterday that her husband has refused to accept her divorce petition for the past two years.

    The affidavit also says that the police in Rochester report a “lengthy history of domestic violence” between Janvrin and Irish, and that she accused him of choking and hitting her on more than one occasion. According to the document, Irish failed to complete a domestic violence course as ordered by the state, and that a hearing was held last month to terminate Janvrin’s parental rights over her two older children.

    Janvrin “has failed to recognize the impact of domestic violence in her life and the potential danger it poses to a newborn baby,” the affidavit reads. “Mr. Irish has not acknowledged any responsibility to date and remains a significant safety risk to an infant in his care. . . . Without the intervention of the court, the infant will be at risk of harm.”

    Now, much has been made on forums, etc, about Paragraph #7 of the document ST linked to seemed to be different than the rest of the document. Turns out that last night Alex Jones (who I will NOT link to) admits that it is part of another document. Furthermore, the docyument ST linked to is a request for a Change of Venue and the “other document” (which, to my knowledge, we DO NOT yet have a complete copy of) is an Affadavit, presumably the one referenced in the Concord Monitor story above.

    Oathkeepers has not released an Update or further statement since last night. They do say that Irish faxed them some documents.

    But this looks more and more like a scam somebody is running. Either Irish is running it himself (possibly to make money from a Legal Defense Fund), or Alex Jones is possibly jerking things around in order to increase the hit count on his website and You Tube channel so he can get more ad revenue.

    Look:

    The gummint is as screwed up as a soup sammich, but its not running some massive conspiracy to enslave us. People make money from internet ads, donations to thier websites or organizations, or they are just plain nutzo. Ramos and Compeon really did shoot that guy and they really did try to cover it up. Erik Scott really was on drugs and he really did reach for his gun. John Irish and Stepanie Taylor really are bad parents and they really deserve to have thier children taken away.

    Giving credence to any of the “massive conspiracy” theories surrounding these cases without doing a lot of investigation only makes us look bad.

  3. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Got back from son’s ablation procedure late last night, long day, left at 5 yesterday morning. Son is ok and safe.

    No way to say it english, so here goes. Doc said he no longer has WPW syndrone, but for reasons not clear had developed AVRNT, same symtoms-fast heart rate-different type of pathway causing it. He was able to burn away most of the abnormal tissue but was unable to go further without risk of damaging the AV node, our natural pacemaker. Doc was unable to simulate the palpitations with ease as he could before, so is reasonably confident son will no longer have the problem.

    There are physical maneuvers that will stop the palpitations, which son has successfully done before. If the condition still exists, he will have to get good at it. Bottomline, this is not life threatening, it does not disrupt a normal lifestyle and people live with much, much worse. We are aware of that, and are grateful.

  4. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Got back from son’s ablation procedure late last night, long day, left at 5 yesterday morning. Son is ok and safe.

    No way to say it english, so here goes. Doc said he no longer has WPW syndrone, but for reasons not clear had developed AVRNT, same symtoms-fast heart rate-different type of pathway causing it. He was able to burn away most of the abnormal tissue but was unable to go further without risk of damaging the AV node, our natural pacemaker. Doc was unable to simulate the palpitations with ease as he could before, so is reasonably confident son will no longer have the problem.

    There are physical maneuvers that will stop the palpitations, which son has successfully done before. If the condition still exists, he will have to get good at it. Bottomline, this is not life threatening, it does not disrupt a normal lifestyle and people live with much, much worse. We are aware of that, and are grateful.

  5. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    Sarge,

    I used to listen to Alex Jones on his shortwave outlet at nights, but just only for entertainment. How anyone can believe what that clown has to say is beyond me.

    I agree with you comments concerning conspiracy. It is difficult to comprehend how the folks who run the V.A., Post Office, and Homeland Security could be running a conspiracy and be as messed up as they are.

    Simple

  6. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    Sarge,

    I used to listen to Alex Jones on his shortwave outlet at nights, but just only for entertainment. How anyone can believe what that clown has to say is beyond me.

    I agree with you comments concerning conspiracy. It is difficult to comprehend how the folks who run the V.A., Post Office, and Homeland Security could be running a conspiracy and be as messed up as they are.

    Simple

  7. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    #1

    Yes, but where was Obama really born and where exactly was Bush in the days before 9/11?
    Hmmmmm? 😛

  8. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #1

    Yes, but where was Obama really born and where exactly was Bush in the days before 9/11?
    Hmmmmm? 😛

  9. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #2 That’s good news, Tim! Hopefully he’ll be able to get back to school now.

  10. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    #2 That’s good news, Tim! Hopefully he’ll be able to get back to school now.

  11. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    “RETARDED” GRANDPARENTS

    Written by a third grader, on what his grandparents do.
    After Christmas, a teacher asked her young pupils how they spent their holiday away from school. One child wrote the following:

    We always used to spend the holidays with Grandma and Grandpa. They used to live in a big brick house, but Grandpa got retarded and they moved to Arizona . Now they live in a tin box and have rocks painted green to look like grass. They ride around on their bicycles, and wear name tags, because they don’t know who they are anymore. They go to a building called a wreck center, but they must have got it fixed because it is all okay now, they do exercises there, but they don’t do them very well. There is a swimming pool too, but they all jump up and down in it with hats on. At their gate, there is a doll house with a little old man sitting in it. He watches all day so nobody can escape. Sometimes they sneak out, and go cruising in their golf carts. Nobody there cooks, they just eat out. And, they eat the same thing every night – early birds. Some of the people can’t get out past the man in the doll house. The ones who do get out, bring food back to the wrecked center for pot luck. My Grandma says that Grandpa worked all his life to earn his retardment and, says I should work hard so I can be retarded someday too. When I earn my retardment, I want to be the man in the doll house. Then I will let people out, so they can visit their grandchildren.

  12. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    “RETARDED” GRANDPARENTS

    Written by a third grader, on what his grandparents do.
    After Christmas, a teacher asked her young pupils how they spent their holiday away from school. One child wrote the following:

    We always used to spend the holidays with Grandma and Grandpa. They used to live in a big brick house, but Grandpa got retarded and they moved to Arizona . Now they live in a tin box and have rocks painted green to look like grass. They ride around on their bicycles, and wear name tags, because they don’t know who they are anymore. They go to a building called a wreck center, but they must have got it fixed because it is all okay now, they do exercises there, but they don’t do them very well. There is a swimming pool too, but they all jump up and down in it with hats on. At their gate, there is a doll house with a little old man sitting in it. He watches all day so nobody can escape. Sometimes they sneak out, and go cruising in their golf carts. Nobody there cooks, they just eat out. And, they eat the same thing every night – early birds. Some of the people can’t get out past the man in the doll house. The ones who do get out, bring food back to the wrecked center for pot luck. My Grandma says that Grandpa worked all his life to earn his retardment and, says I should work hard so I can be retarded someday too. When I earn my retardment, I want to be the man in the doll house. Then I will let people out, so they can visit their grandchildren.

  13. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Trying to get a handle on what the home mortgage foreclosure fiasco is going to do to Sweetie’s real estate biz. In one way, it could get prospective buyers holding out for sweet foreclosure deals off the fence and also, inventory will be reduced significantly. On the other hand, this is going to be one big mess amidst an already huge mess in home financing.

  14. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Trying to get a handle on what the home mortgage foreclosure fiasco is going to do to Sweetie’s real estate biz. In one way, it could get prospective buyers holding out for sweet foreclosure deals off the fence and also, inventory will be reduced significantly. On the other hand, this is going to be one big mess amidst an already huge mess in home financing.

  15. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    GJT #2;

    Splendid news!!!

  16. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    GJT #2;

    Splendid news!!!

  17. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Harry Reid: Voters are blaming me because they’re selfish little children or something

    Guess I’m a selfish brat.

  18. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Harry Reid: Voters are blaming me because they’re selfish little children or something

    Guess I’m a selfish brat.

  19. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Thanks guys.

    People and the power of prayer continue amaze. Sweetie put out a prayer request on FB, it went across the US to the UK, Germany and even to Belgium within hours!

  20. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Thanks guys.

    People and the power of prayer continue amaze. Sweetie put out a prayer request on FB, it went across the US to the UK, Germany and even to Belgium within hours!

  21. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Man Sinks Teeth Into Police Dog

    Kids, drugs are not good for you.

  22. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Man Sinks Teeth Into Police Dog

    Kids, drugs are not good for you.

  23. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    FWIW:

    I’ve read all the comments on the Oathkeepers site.

    More than half of them confirm to me that nmy decision not to associate with them was warranted.

  24. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    FWIW:

    I’ve read all the comments on the Oathkeepers site.

    More than half of them confirm to me that nmy decision not to associate with them was warranted.

  25. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #2 – GJT GREAT news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  26. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    #2 – GJT GREAT news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  27. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    #12

    How is the air up there in ruling class, duopololyville? 😀

  28. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #12

    How is the air up there in ruling class, duopololyville? 😀

  29. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    14 GJT says:
    October 9, 2010 at 10:05 am
    #12

    How is the air up there in ruling class, duopololyville?

    Well,

    I’ve gotten my instructions from the New World Order and am now off to get my monthly allotment of Sheeple food.

    Or something——-

  30. Sarge Avatar
    Sarge

    14 GJT says:
    October 9, 2010 at 10:05 am
    #12

    How is the air up there in ruling class, duopololyville?

    Well,

    I’ve gotten my instructions from the New World Order and am now off to get my monthly allotment of Sheeple food.

    Or something——-

  31. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    NEW YORK (CBS 2/ 1010WINS/ AP) – Police have arrested seven individuals ranging in age from 16 to 23 for their roles in alleged anti-gay attacks Sunday.

    CBS 2 took exclusive pictures of six of the seven suspects, who were trying to hide their faces with hoods on their heads, chained to each other. They are accused of anti-gay bias attacks that have shocked a University Heights neighborhood.

    “I don’t understand how people can do that to another human being whether he’s gay, whatever he is,” resident Geovany Rodriguez told CBS 2’s John Metaxas.

    The alleged bloody beatings happened on Osborne Place early Sunday. Police said members of a gang known as the “Latin King Goonies” lured a 17-year-old into an unoccupied ground floor apartment.

    Don’t understand? Duh, it’s a gang. However horrifying these assaults were, theywere still committed by a gang.

    “These attacks are appalling and are even more despicable because the victims were clearly targeted in acts of hate simply because they are gay,” Quinn said. “The cowardly few who committed these crimes do not represent New Yorkers and our community will not be cowed by such violence.”

    Again, however gruesome the assaults were, when do gangs NOT target assaults based on hate?

  32. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    NEW YORK (CBS 2/ 1010WINS/ AP) – Police have arrested seven individuals ranging in age from 16 to 23 for their roles in alleged anti-gay attacks Sunday.

    CBS 2 took exclusive pictures of six of the seven suspects, who were trying to hide their faces with hoods on their heads, chained to each other. They are accused of anti-gay bias attacks that have shocked a University Heights neighborhood.

    “I don’t understand how people can do that to another human being whether he’s gay, whatever he is,” resident Geovany Rodriguez told CBS 2’s John Metaxas.

    The alleged bloody beatings happened on Osborne Place early Sunday. Police said members of a gang known as the “Latin King Goonies” lured a 17-year-old into an unoccupied ground floor apartment.

    Don’t understand? Duh, it’s a gang. However horrifying these assaults were, theywere still committed by a gang.

    “These attacks are appalling and are even more despicable because the victims were clearly targeted in acts of hate simply because they are gay,” Quinn said. “The cowardly few who committed these crimes do not represent New Yorkers and our community will not be cowed by such violence.”

    Again, however gruesome the assaults were, when do gangs NOT target assaults based on hate?

  33. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — A federal judge ordered a North Carolina school to admit a 14-year-old high school student suspended for wearing a nose piercing she says is part of her religion, and the teenager headed to science class Friday afternoon.

    LINK

    I was curious as to what faith the 14-year-old belonged to. It was the Church of Body Modification. Check out the tongue on the front page. Yeah, babeh.

  34. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — A federal judge ordered a North Carolina school to admit a 14-year-old high school student suspended for wearing a nose piercing she says is part of her religion, and the teenager headed to science class Friday afternoon.

    LINK

    I was curious as to what faith the 14-year-old belonged to. It was the Church of Body Modification. Check out the tongue on the front page. Yeah, babeh.

  35. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Has anyone ever heard of a love crime? Does anyone ever get beat up because the attacker is in love with them? All violent crime is hate crime. Was this less of a crime because the murderer and the three victims were all black? Was the murders of these 48 people less of a crime because they weren’t gay? Why is it necessary to create a class of übervictims? It doesn’t decrease criminal behavior. There are bad people among us and they hate other people. Sometimes they kill other people. It’s been that way since the dawn of human civilization and no society has ever managed to change that fact. Hippies sticking flowers in the barrel of guns didn’t change it. Psychiatrists digging around in the diseased minds of criminals trying to “rehabilitate” them doesn’t change it. Special victim statuses haven’t changed it. Cliche-filled bumper stickers won’t change it. Punish the guilty severely, to the fullest extent of the law, and move on.

  36. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    Has anyone ever heard of a love crime? Does anyone ever get beat up because the attacker is in love with them? All violent crime is hate crime. Was this less of a crime because the murderer and the three victims were all black? Was the murders of these 48 people less of a crime because they weren’t gay? Why is it necessary to create a class of übervictims? It doesn’t decrease criminal behavior. There are bad people among us and they hate other people. Sometimes they kill other people. It’s been that way since the dawn of human civilization and no society has ever managed to change that fact. Hippies sticking flowers in the barrel of guns didn’t change it. Psychiatrists digging around in the diseased minds of criminals trying to “rehabilitate” them doesn’t change it. Special victim statuses haven’t changed it. Cliche-filled bumper stickers won’t change it. Punish the guilty severely, to the fullest extent of the law, and move on.

  37. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    #16 Darren

    Again, however gruesome the assaults were, when do gangs NOT target assaults based on hate?

    When they do it for fun or for initiation or for money.

    G’morning all. I didn’t fall asleep until after 2:00 am, and am just getting my day started. It looks like it’s work outdoors day today.

    GJT- great news on the son. I hope this is the last of all that mess. I remember what it was like for Handsome when he was little. We were at the doctors’ offices about every 2-3 weeks for a while, and then when he was being diagnosed with his learning disability, there were times he was being evaluated in one way or another just about every week. He was so tired of it by the end of that summer, I finally saw him get frustrated. It’s hard to get him to show frustration, but the white coats managed it. Good luck to you all!

  38. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    #16 Darren

    Again, however gruesome the assaults were, when do gangs NOT target assaults based on hate?

    When they do it for fun or for initiation or for money.

    G’morning all. I didn’t fall asleep until after 2:00 am, and am just getting my day started. It looks like it’s work outdoors day today.

    GJT- great news on the son. I hope this is the last of all that mess. I remember what it was like for Handsome when he was little. We were at the doctors’ offices about every 2-3 weeks for a while, and then when he was being diagnosed with his learning disability, there were times he was being evaluated in one way or another just about every week. He was so tired of it by the end of that summer, I finally saw him get frustrated. It’s hard to get him to show frustration, but the white coats managed it. Good luck to you all!

  39. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    And speaking of undisclosed campaign funds, wasn’t The Big O the candidate with all sorts of too-small-to-record-the-donor donations made from Middle Eastern (read: Muslim) countries?

  40. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    And speaking of undisclosed campaign funds, wasn’t The Big O the candidate with all sorts of too-small-to-record-the-donor donations made from Middle Eastern (read: Muslim) countries?

  41. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    repeater from last night (in case yall missed it)

    Mexico to Build Southern Border Fence

    If THAT aint ironic as heck I never heard the name O. Henry!

  42. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    repeater from last night (in case yall missed it)

    Mexico to Build Southern Border Fence

    If THAT aint ironic as heck I never heard the name O. Henry!

  43. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    Lloyd Marcus rocks!

    Too bad the people who need to read this won’t. Either because they won’t find it, it won’t be shown to them, or – – they can’t read.

  44. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    Lloyd Marcus rocks!

    Too bad the people who need to read this won’t. Either because they won’t find it, it won’t be shown to them, or – – they can’t read.

  45. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    #21 Kat

    I have the solution: let them build the border fence, then we’ll flip the country of Mexico upside down. Then we’ll have a fence. :p

  46. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    #21 Kat

    I have the solution: let them build the border fence, then we’ll flip the country of Mexico upside down. Then we’ll have a fence. :p

  47. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #22 – Keep in mind that the Democrats have had their boots on the necks of black Americans for 50+ years. While there may only be a few that realize they’ve been bamboozled by the racialists, the momentum is changing, and it’s real change. And it will grow, slowly at first, but it will gather steam.

  48. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    #22 – Keep in mind that the Democrats have had their boots on the necks of black Americans for 50+ years. While there may only be a few that realize they’ve been bamboozled by the racialists, the momentum is changing, and it’s real change. And it will grow, slowly at first, but it will gather steam.

  49. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #16 Darren

    Again, however gruesome the assaults were, when do gangs NOT target assaults based on hate?

    Their violence is not based on hate when it is motivated by the very attractive tax free black market profits from the drug war that you support. To a very large degree, your drug war funds the gangs. Perhaps you (and the drug warriors, especially the wimpy politicians) should accept responsibility for your role in helping make it possible for these these scumbag gangs of violent jerks to thrive and terrorize people.

    Rather than “hate” I think their inexcusable behavior was a violent expression of xenophobia.

    #18 Hamous, I’m not at all in favor of hate crime legislation of any kind. Our criminal justice system has a hard enough time accurately finding basic facts. To saddle it with determining the state of mind or motivation of a perpetrator is just plain silly. (Although you do seem to have an intermittent talent for divining the motivation and thoughts of others.)

    Heh…

    Cliche-filled bumper stickers won’t change it.

    Are you referring to “Tolerance” or “Coexist” bumper stickers? If so, please explain the “cliche” (and be expecting one in the mail.)
    😉

  50. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    #16 Darren

    Again, however gruesome the assaults were, when do gangs NOT target assaults based on hate?

    Their violence is not based on hate when it is motivated by the very attractive tax free black market profits from the drug war that you support. To a very large degree, your drug war funds the gangs. Perhaps you (and the drug warriors, especially the wimpy politicians) should accept responsibility for your role in helping make it possible for these these scumbag gangs of violent jerks to thrive and terrorize people.

    Rather than “hate” I think their inexcusable behavior was a violent expression of xenophobia.

    #18 Hamous, I’m not at all in favor of hate crime legislation of any kind. Our criminal justice system has a hard enough time accurately finding basic facts. To saddle it with determining the state of mind or motivation of a perpetrator is just plain silly. (Although you do seem to have an intermittent talent for divining the motivation and thoughts of others.)

    Heh…

    Cliche-filled bumper stickers won’t change it.

    Are you referring to “Tolerance” or “Coexist” bumper stickers? If so, please explain the “cliche” (and be expecting one in the mail.)
    😉

  51. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    From yesterday

    Watching Lovely Daughter and Aggie Beau – cuter’n a basketful of puppies.

    Almost as cute as watching you gush about it. 😆

  52. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    From yesterday

    Watching Lovely Daughter and Aggie Beau – cuter’n a basketful of puppies.

    Almost as cute as watching you gush about it. 😆

  53. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Poor Hambone, ain’t ever been loved to death.

  54. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Poor Hambone, ain’t ever been loved to death.

  55. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    He’s a hater. Always has been; always will be.

  56. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    He’s a hater. Always has been; always will be.

  57. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    Rather than “hate” I think their inexcusable behavior was a violent expression of xenophobia.

    Maybe they’re just evil.

  58. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Rather than “hate” I think their inexcusable behavior was a violent expression of xenophobia.

    Maybe they’re just evil.

  59. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    bob;

    Their violence is not based on hate when it is motivated by the very attractive tax free black market profits from the drug war that you support.

    What’s your closest experience with gang members?

  60. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    bob;

    Their violence is not based on hate when it is motivated by the very attractive tax free black market profits from the drug war that you support.

    What’s your closest experience with gang members?

  61. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    #22 – God BLESS anyone that tells it like it is!

  62. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    #22 – God BLESS anyone that tells it like it is!

  63. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Although you do seem to have an intermittent talent for divining the motivation and thoughts of others.

    I don’t have to divine anything, I just read what you write.

    Are you referring to “Tolerance” or “Coexist” bumper stickers?

    Actually I was referring to ones like these.

    Your bumper stickers are more caricatures of a bygone era where smelly, crunchy hippies wore earth shoes, thought that mother earth would take care of all their needs, everyone would love each other, and the lion would lie down with the lamb (we right-wing, Christian, xenohomoislamohispanophobes call that “Heaven”, btw). There’s not much harm in them but they don’t really accomplish anything other than to alert the rest of us to the driver’s demeanor. A more effective bumper sticker may be “Aging Hippie On Board” 😉

  64. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    Although you do seem to have an intermittent talent for divining the motivation and thoughts of others.

    I don’t have to divine anything, I just read what you write.

    Are you referring to “Tolerance” or “Coexist” bumper stickers?

    Actually I was referring to ones like these.

    Your bumper stickers are more caricatures of a bygone era where smelly, crunchy hippies wore earth shoes, thought that mother earth would take care of all their needs, everyone would love each other, and the lion would lie down with the lamb (we right-wing, Christian, xenohomoislamohispanophobes call that “Heaven”, btw). There’s not much harm in them but they don’t really accomplish anything other than to alert the rest of us to the driver’s demeanor. A more effective bumper sticker may be “Aging Hippie On Board” 😉

  65. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    I saw this one yesterday…

  66. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I saw this one yesterday…

  67. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    Aggie Beau had an interesting take on the elections. According to him, it’s mathematically impossible to pay back the debt that’s been racked up over the last two years. Therefore, he is tempted to vote a Democrat ticket, except for Chet Edwards, whom he cannot stand. His theory is that since we can never make that money back, go for broke. Vote in Democrats that will allow us to get whatever money we can out of the system before it crashes.

    Of course, he doesn’t realize that “that money” will be coming out of mine and his and Lovely’s pockets (when she gets a job, if there is one). And he doesn’t take into account the judges and other appointments which will further erode our freedoms. Or the damage that can be done to any attempt at recovery by the institution of government programs.

    I think he thinks the whole system will implode and we’ll be starting over from scratch. Not likely to happen.

  68. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    The perfect dessert for those of you who are planning to serve turducken for Thanksgiving.

  69. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    The perfect dessert for those of you who are planning to serve turducken for Thanksgiving.

  70. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    Who needs C-4?

    French idiots.

  71. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    Who needs C-4?

    French idiots.

  72. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    I think he thinks the whole system will implode and we’ll be starting over from scratch

    I thought that was the experiment we are in the middle of now.

  73. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    I think he thinks the whole system will implode and we’ll be starting over from scratch

    I thought that was the experiment we are in the middle of now.

  74. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    My Christmas present for bob.

    Enjoy!

    (Oh, it’s the shirt, nothing else. 😉 )

  75. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    My Christmas present for bob.

    Enjoy!

    (Oh, it’s the shirt, nothing else. 😉 )

  76. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    Very cool pics.

  77. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    Very cool pics.

  78. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I don’t know anything about this group other than ST provided a link the other day. I’m a little confused about the name and this push from their website:

    Join Independent Texans and join the movement to clean up and open up the Texas voting process.

    Join Independent Texans?

  79. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    I don’t know anything about this group other than ST provided a link the other day. I’m a little confused about the name and this push from their website:

    Join Independent Texans and join the movement to clean up and open up the Texas voting process.

    Join Independent Texans?

  80. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    Independent Texans? I don’t think Texans could get any more independant.

    Simple

  81. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    Independent Texans? I don’t think Texans could get any more independant.

    Simple

  82. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #2 Tim

    Sounds like a good outcome, thanks for the update.

  83. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #2 Tim

    Sounds like a good outcome, thanks for the update.

  84. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #35 Wb

    Thanks for the heads-up on that Pumpple cake… We can’t be that close to doomsday if people are still coming up with odd stuff like this.

  85. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #35 Wb

    Thanks for the heads-up on that Pumpple cake… We can’t be that close to doomsday if people are still coming up with odd stuff like this.

  86. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #39 TT — Yes, some great photography. The colors are strange on many of them, guess that could be due in some cases to how they lighted the subject. The green eyelash hairs are surreal.

  87. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #39 TT — Yes, some great photography. The colors are strange on many of them, guess that could be due in some cases to how they lighted the subject. The green eyelash hairs are surreal.

  88. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    Ya gotta (well you oughtta) LOVE good satire! *hat tip* IowaHawk

    It’s Time for Carbon Action… Action! ACTION!

    Dear Reader:

    Good news! This coming Sunday is 10/10/10, which has been officially designated as global Carbon Action Day. Which, as I understand it, involves scaring up some action by way of our old miracle friend carbon – a/k/a “Gaia’s gift to the periodic tables.”

    Mister, now that’s the kind of activism I can get behind! And if the reader-driven annual Iowahawk Earth Week Cruise is any indication, you can too. That’s why I’m asking you – the selfless, globally concerned Iowahawk reader – to dedicate the upcoming weekend to increasing your carbon output by 10*10*10%. And the more action you create the better! Have some tires to smoke? Leaves to burn? Bratwurst to grill? Heavy breathing to do? Get to it, carbon slacker, and be creative! Send me the documentary evidence (video, photo, or links) and I’ll see to it your fellow Iowahawk carbon activist are informed of your good works, right here on this thread.

    Carbon Action!!

  89. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    Ya gotta (well you oughtta) LOVE good satire! *hat tip* IowaHawk

    It’s Time for Carbon Action… Action! ACTION!

    Dear Reader:

    Good news! This coming Sunday is 10/10/10, which has been officially designated as global Carbon Action Day. Which, as I understand it, involves scaring up some action by way of our old miracle friend carbon – a/k/a “Gaia’s gift to the periodic tables.”

    Mister, now that’s the kind of activism I can get behind! And if the reader-driven annual Iowahawk Earth Week Cruise is any indication, you can too. That’s why I’m asking you – the selfless, globally concerned Iowahawk reader – to dedicate the upcoming weekend to increasing your carbon output by 10*10*10%. And the more action you create the better! Have some tires to smoke? Leaves to burn? Bratwurst to grill? Heavy breathing to do? Get to it, carbon slacker, and be creative! Send me the documentary evidence (video, photo, or links) and I’ll see to it your fellow Iowahawk carbon activist are informed of your good works, right here on this thread.

    Carbon Action!!

  90. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #32 You’ve just earned yourself a second bumper sticker for this latest ridiculous episode of your under-informed, stereo-typing, broad brushed painting. Good job!

    Your bumper stickers are more caricatures of a bygone era where smelly, crunchy hippies wore earth shoes, thought that mother earth would take care of all their needs, everyone would love each other, and the lion would lie down with the lamb…

    On second thought, why waste a sticker on such a closed mind.

  91. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    #32 You’ve just earned yourself a second bumper sticker for this latest ridiculous episode of your under-informed, stereo-typing, broad brushed painting. Good job!

    Your bumper stickers are more caricatures of a bygone era where smelly, crunchy hippies wore earth shoes, thought that mother earth would take care of all their needs, everyone would love each other, and the lion would lie down with the lamb…

    On second thought, why waste a sticker on such a closed mind.

  92. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    I love living in Rednecknolia, just saw a bumper sticker, in response I reckon to the ‘My Child is an Honor Roll Student at _ _ _ _ _’ stickers.

    My Child got Inmate of the Month at County Jail

  93. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    I love living in Rednecknolia, just saw a bumper sticker, in response I reckon to the ‘My Child is an Honor Roll Student at _ _ _ _ _’ stickers.

    My Child got Inmate of the Month at County Jail

  94. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    #46

    Think about it

    Love it when you talk to me that way. Friggin ….nevermind.

  95. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    #46

    Think about it

    Love it when you talk to me that way. Friggin ….nevermind.

  96. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    Many years ago a friend had this bumper sticker;

    “I Speed Up To Run Over Small Animals’

  97. gtotracker Avatar
    gtotracker

    Many years ago a friend had this bumper sticker;

    “I Speed Up To Run Over Small Animals’

  98. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    #49 goat-boy
    That’s good for nature. It gets rid of the slow, stupid ones.

  99. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #49 goat-boy
    That’s good for nature. It gets rid of the slow, stupid ones.

  100. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Sarge, here’s the response I owe you from Thursday. I appreciate your patience and especially your additional research on the matter. We’re of opposite minds on the matter, and that’s not at all likely to change. But I do like it when folks do their homework.

    14 bob42 says:
    October 7, 2010 at 9:13 am

    Sarge, you don’t have your facts straight, at all. Re-check your homework.

    The Liberty issue is that the judge in the court case ruled that nobody but the government could appeal his ruling, leaving the People without recourse to appeal.

    As I hinted Thursday, your one sentence remark contained a factual error in each clause. I’ll address each of them.

    1. The “judge in the court case” made no such ruling. The California supreme court ruled against the defendant’s motion to force the governor or attorney general of that state to pursue the appeal with them. The trial judge, after delivering a 100+ page ruling on the case stayed his own order to give the defendants time to appeal (sounds pretty fair to me.) They did, and the trial court’s ruling remains stayed until their appeal is heard, or they are denied standing by the appellate court, not the “judicial activist” trial judge.

    2. While it’s arguable that they represent “the people” the defendants do in fact have recourse, all the way to the supreme court if they so choose, and are in fact pursuing it, despite their horribly lame performance at the trial that resulted in the most damning ruling from a republican judicial appointee since the case of Kitzmiller v. Dover.

    I hope that one way or another, be it on their own or with the help of a California county prosecutor (whose support they are also pursuing) they achieve standing, and have yet another chance to show that the dishonest crap they littered the free speech airways with in 2008 was actually substantiated by facts.

    I’m hoping they gain standing because frankly, I don’t think they can prove their case no matter how many chances they are given. I think its most likely that, being fully aware of their factually defunct arguments, they are hoping to be denied standing, and even if they get it, they will at some point voluntarily drop their appeals to avoid a supreme court hearing on their nonsense.

    Of course I also expect that they will scream bloody murder and “JUDICIAL ACTIVISM!!!!” so that they can fleece even more social conservative authoritarians of their hard earned money in support of their totally worthless, fear based, big government promoting “cause.”

    More to come in December, when the higher court rules on standing, and may or may not hear their appeal. I say let these kooks have their say. It’s time for them to put up or shut up, and from everything I’ve read on the matter, these authoritarians showed up for a poop fight trial armed only with a fart.

    ymmv.

  101. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    Sarge, here’s the response I owe you from Thursday. I appreciate your patience and especially your additional research on the matter. We’re of opposite minds on the matter, and that’s not at all likely to change. But I do like it when folks do their homework.

    14 bob42 says:
    October 7, 2010 at 9:13 am

    Sarge, you don’t have your facts straight, at all. Re-check your homework.

    The Liberty issue is that the judge in the court case ruled that nobody but the government could appeal his ruling, leaving the People without recourse to appeal.

    As I hinted Thursday, your one sentence remark contained a factual error in each clause. I’ll address each of them.

    1. The “judge in the court case” made no such ruling. The California supreme court ruled against the defendant’s motion to force the governor or attorney general of that state to pursue the appeal with them. The trial judge, after delivering a 100+ page ruling on the case stayed his own order to give the defendants time to appeal (sounds pretty fair to me.) They did, and the trial court’s ruling remains stayed until their appeal is heard, or they are denied standing by the appellate court, not the “judicial activist” trial judge.

    2. While it’s arguable that they represent “the people” the defendants do in fact have recourse, all the way to the supreme court if they so choose, and are in fact pursuing it, despite their horribly lame performance at the trial that resulted in the most damning ruling from a republican judicial appointee since the case of Kitzmiller v. Dover.

    I hope that one way or another, be it on their own or with the help of a California county prosecutor (whose support they are also pursuing) they achieve standing, and have yet another chance to show that the dishonest crap they littered the free speech airways with in 2008 was actually substantiated by facts.

    I’m hoping they gain standing because frankly, I don’t think they can prove their case no matter how many chances they are given. I think its most likely that, being fully aware of their factually defunct arguments, they are hoping to be denied standing, and even if they get it, they will at some point voluntarily drop their appeals to avoid a supreme court hearing on their nonsense.

    Of course I also expect that they will scream bloody murder and “JUDICIAL ACTIVISM!!!!” so that they can fleece even more social conservative authoritarians of their hard earned money in support of their totally worthless, fear based, big government promoting “cause.”

    More to come in December, when the higher court rules on standing, and may or may not hear their appeal. I say let these kooks have their say. It’s time for them to put up or shut up, and from everything I’ve read on the matter, these authoritarians showed up for a poop fight trial armed only with a fart.

    ymmv.

  102. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    It’s a fine night for football. The Langham Creek Lobos are taking on the Cy-Falls Eagles.

    LCHS scored a field goal after forcing a 4th down failed conversion on the CF 8 yd line. CF came back & scored a TD on the next drive.

    LC 3 CF 7.

  103. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    It’s a fine night for football. The Langham Creek Lobos are taking on the Cy-Falls Eagles.

    LCHS scored a field goal after forcing a 4th down failed conversion on the CF 8 yd line. CF came back & scored a TD on the next drive.

    LC 3 CF 7.

  104. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    LC punt, CF int, LC field goal.

    LC 6 CF 7

  105. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    LC punt, CF int, LC field goal.

    LC 6 CF 7

  106. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Bama falls.

  107. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    Bama falls.

  108. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    CF TD. Missed pat

    LC 6 CF 13.

  109. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    CF TD. Missed pat

    LC 6 CF 13.

  110. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    On second thought, why waste a sticker on such a closed mind.

    Dat’s me. Mr. Closed Mind. T-shirts are a much more effective way to change the world.

    The revolution is just a t-shirt away!

  111. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    On second thought, why waste a sticker on such a closed mind.

    Dat’s me. Mr. Closed Mind. T-shirts are a much more effective way to change the world.

    The revolution is just a t-shirt away!

  112. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    While I’m on a neo-hippie pinko commie roll … Must I Paint You a Picture

  113. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    While I’m on a neo-hippie pinko commie roll … Must I Paint You a Picture

  114. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    CF intercepts & scores a couple plays later. Missed pat again.

    LC 6 CF 19

  115. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    CF intercepts & scores a couple plays later. Missed pat again.

    LC 6 CF 19

  116. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    Getting my /spits ready:

    this kind of effort is precisely the progressive way of doing things. Instead of arguing the issues and convincing people why their position is correct, the Daily Kos is trying to manipulate the system. One could almost accept this strategy if they attempting to manipulate positions, for example pushing articles explaining why Obamacare is wonderful to the top of the rankings. At least then they would be trying to inform the public.

    This points out the real difference between progressives and conservatives; progressives have no confidence in the public so their strategy is to find damaging headlines about a candidate, so they can brand them as bad people.

  117. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    Getting my /spits ready:

    this kind of effort is precisely the progressive way of doing things. Instead of arguing the issues and convincing people why their position is correct, the Daily Kos is trying to manipulate the system. One could almost accept this strategy if they attempting to manipulate positions, for example pushing articles explaining why Obamacare is wonderful to the top of the rankings. At least then they would be trying to inform the public.

    This points out the real difference between progressives and conservatives; progressives have no confidence in the public so their strategy is to find damaging headlines about a candidate, so they can brand them as bad people.

  118. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    CF recovers fumble on the LC 45, converts a 4th down, scores TD. Makes pat this time w/30sec left on half.

    LC runs kickoff to CF 30, then is intercepted in end zone. Looks like it’s gonna be a character-building night for the Lobos.

    LC 6 CF 26

    ugly

  119. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    CF recovers fumble on the LC 45, converts a 4th down, scores TD. Makes pat this time w/30sec left on half.

    LC runs kickoff to CF 30, then is intercepted in end zone. Looks like it’s gonna be a character-building night for the Lobos.

    LC 6 CF 26

    ugly

  120. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    The good news is the band placed second in their competition in Katy this afternoon.

  121. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    The good news is the band placed second in their competition in Katy this afternoon.

  122. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    Yow. CF recovered fumble and scored. Made pat.

    LC 6 CF 33.

    LC fumbled kickoff; CF recovered on LC 40.

    No ed bueno.

  123. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Yow. CF recovered fumble and scored. Made pat.

    LC 6 CF 33.

    LC fumbled kickoff; CF recovered on LC 40.

    No ed bueno.

  124. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    CF scored again. Missed pat.

    LC 6 CF 39

  125. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    CF scored again. Missed pat.

    LC 6 CF 39

  126. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    Maybe CF will pull an “Oilers”.

  127. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Maybe CF will pull an “Oilers”.

  128. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    Or not.

    LC 6 CF 46.

  129. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Or not.

    LC 6 CF 46.

  130. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    LC just fumbled the kickoff.

    Brutal.

  131. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    LC just fumbled the kickoff.

    Brutal.

  132. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    Wow. LC just recovered a fumble.

    They’re rollin’ now!

  133. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Wow. LC just recovered a fumble.

    They’re rollin’ now!

  134. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    End of 3rd qtr.

    LC 6 CF 46

    At least the weather is gorgeous.

  135. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    End of 3rd qtr.

    LC 6 CF 46

    At least the weather is gorgeous.

  136. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    TOUCHDOWN!!!1!!1!1!

    LC 13 CF 46

  137. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    TOUCHDOWN!!!1!!1!1!

    LC 13 CF 46

  138. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    LC 13 CF 53

  139. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    LC 13 CF 53

  140. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    LC 20 CF 53

    We’ve got ’em right where we want ’em

  141. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    LC 20 CF 53

    We’ve got ’em right where we want ’em

  142. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    Happy 70th birthday, John Lennon.

    Your spirit lives on in the legacy of your music, appreciated by three generations, and those yet to come.

  143. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    Happy 70th birthday, John Lennon.

    Your spirit lives on in the legacy of your music, appreciated by three generations, and those yet to come.

  144. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    Carnage not seen since the Somme or the Marne.

    LC 20 CF 53

  145. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    Carnage not seen since the Somme or the Marne.

    LC 20 CF 53

  146. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #72 Bob

    BS. “Imagine there’s no country” ????

  147. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #72 Bob

    BS. “Imagine there’s no country” ????

  148. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    I spent most of the day outside, hauling and cleaning and shoveling dirt. There are parts of my body fussing at me that I totally forgot I had.

    /searching for aspirin

  149. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    I spent most of the day outside, hauling and cleaning and shoveling dirt. There are parts of my body fussing at me that I totally forgot I had.

    /searching for aspirin

  150. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    bob’s an anarchist who likes to think he’s a libertarian.

    Lennon was good before he got into the acid.

  151. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    bob’s an anarchist who likes to think he’s a libertarian.

    Lennon was good before he got into the acid.

  152. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    #75 crazy aunt
    Just think how bad you’d plants are gonna feel when you start “caring” for them.

  153. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #75 crazy aunt
    Just think how bad you’d plants are gonna feel when you start “caring” for them.

  154. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #74 mharper42, “It’s easy if you try…”

    John Lennon was a lot of things; an overly ideological socialist leaning commie among them. At the same time he created timeless music that will indeed be appreciated by generations to come. (Whether you like it or not!)

    A few years ago my daughter learned Imagine by ear, and played it at the annual youth led service at church. (/brag)

    Those attending were encouraged to sing along with the young folk. Everyone’s attempts to sing “you-who-oo” (@2:35) resulted in widespread laughter at each chorus. But the kids recovered nicely and kept the beat.

    But more to the point, historically, “countries” have been defined according to geographical obstacles: distance, mountain ranges, oceans and the like. Thanks to industrialization, rapid transportation, and most recently the widespread and very affordable availability of information technology, our world is (virtually) a much smaller place than it has been in the past, and I think that trend is unstoppable in the long run.

    I think it’s pretty cool that only 100 years ago it was a rare (and expensive) feat to communicate with a person on another continent quickly. Today, we’re mere milliseconds away from friends thousands of miles and oceans away

    I’m not opposed to their existence, nor do I think that “countries” will ever become extinct. However I do point out that what the most oppressive, most dictatorial, most fascist countries in the world fear most, what they fear more than death, bombs, or invasions, is the free exchange of information and ideas between the people they oppress within their borders and the more fortunate free people living in the rest of the world.

    It’s easy enough to kill a man. It’s much more difficult to kill an idea.

    “Imagine.”

  155. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    #74 mharper42, “It’s easy if you try…”

    John Lennon was a lot of things; an overly ideological socialist leaning commie among them. At the same time he created timeless music that will indeed be appreciated by generations to come. (Whether you like it or not!)

    A few years ago my daughter learned Imagine by ear, and played it at the annual youth led service at church. (/brag)

    Those attending were encouraged to sing along with the young folk. Everyone’s attempts to sing “you-who-oo” (@2:35) resulted in widespread laughter at each chorus. But the kids recovered nicely and kept the beat.

    But more to the point, historically, “countries” have been defined according to geographical obstacles: distance, mountain ranges, oceans and the like. Thanks to industrialization, rapid transportation, and most recently the widespread and very affordable availability of information technology, our world is (virtually) a much smaller place than it has been in the past, and I think that trend is unstoppable in the long run.

    I think it’s pretty cool that only 100 years ago it was a rare (and expensive) feat to communicate with a person on another continent quickly. Today, we’re mere milliseconds away from friends thousands of miles and oceans away

    I’m not opposed to their existence, nor do I think that “countries” will ever become extinct. However I do point out that what the most oppressive, most dictatorial, most fascist countries in the world fear most, what they fear more than death, bombs, or invasions, is the free exchange of information and ideas between the people they oppress within their borders and the more fortunate free people living in the rest of the world.

    It’s easy enough to kill a man. It’s much more difficult to kill an idea.

    “Imagine.”

  156. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Good grief, Bob, it’s Saturday night, why don’t you have a date? None of your verbiage in #78 about country becoming irrelevant will carry any weight with any American patriot.

  157. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    Good grief, Bob, it’s Saturday night, why don’t you have a date? None of your verbiage in #78 about country becoming irrelevant will carry any weight with any American patriot.

  158. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    John Lennon smelled like hippie.

    Am I the only one here who never liked The Beatles?

  159. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    John Lennon smelled like hippie.

    Am I the only one here who never liked The Beatles?

  160. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Jerry Brown announced he has received the endorsement of the National Organization for Women, less than 24 hours after the emergence of a recorded message in which Brown can be heard in a conversation with advisors in which someone calls Whitman a “whore.” Coincidence? You be the judge.

    I bet NOW were John Lennon fans.

    LINK

  161. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Jerry Brown announced he has received the endorsement of the National Organization for Women, less than 24 hours after the emergence of a recorded message in which Brown can be heard in a conversation with advisors in which someone calls Whitman a “whore.” Coincidence? You be the judge.

    I bet NOW were John Lennon fans.

    LINK

  162. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    ♫ You’re not the only one ♫

  163. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    ♫ You’re not the only one ♫

  164. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #79 Thanks for your interest in my personal life. Not that it’s any of your business, but since you brought it up, I’ll assure your that my sinful, adulterous, serial monogamous activities are doing just fine, even if they don’t consume my every evening.

    If you’d care to make a serious, non-dodging comment on my remarks, I’ll be more than happy to craft a serious reply. “…carry weight with any American patriot” is a poor (and I think very shallow) excuse for an argument. Flesh it out! Explain why you think that is the case, and substantiate your thoughts with facts.

    Do you dispute my notions that industrialization and numerous advances in communication technologies have made our world smaller? If so, why? Do you dispute that those same aspects are a superior weapon against totalitarian governments?

    I’m all ears.

  165. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    #79 Thanks for your interest in my personal life. Not that it’s any of your business, but since you brought it up, I’ll assure your that my sinful, adulterous, serial monogamous activities are doing just fine, even if they don’t consume my every evening.

    If you’d care to make a serious, non-dodging comment on my remarks, I’ll be more than happy to craft a serious reply. “…carry weight with any American patriot” is a poor (and I think very shallow) excuse for an argument. Flesh it out! Explain why you think that is the case, and substantiate your thoughts with facts.

    Do you dispute my notions that industrialization and numerous advances in communication technologies have made our world smaller? If so, why? Do you dispute that those same aspects are a superior weapon against totalitarian governments?

    I’m all ears.

  166. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    However I do point out that what the most oppressive, most dictatorial, most fascist countries in the world fear most, what they fear more than death, bombs, or invasions, is the free exchange of information and ideas between the people they oppress within their borders and the more fortunate free people living in the rest of the world.

    Yikes. You’re a walking dichotomy. You’re more than a bit disconnected from the reality of your surroundings. You routinely disparage our country when we attempt to export our good fortune and in the same breath call your fellow Americans xenophobes when they suggest it’s good policy to control our own borders. Last I looked there aren’t a rush of Americans risking their lives to escape from this country you paint as an authoritarian hellhole.

    There is no barrier to the free exchange of ideas in this country. It’s just that we have heard your ideas and we don’t like them. We are students of history and recognize that what you espouse, however noble your intent (and I’m no longer convinced of that intent), necessarily leads to tyranny.

    You lob derogatory buzzwords at anyone who dares disagree with you in a lame attempt to malign their character, then hide behind a veil of satire when someone calls you on it. Simply put you are nothing more than a cultural Marxist in anarchist’s clothing. Thank God the sane among us continue to reject your insidious dogma.

    Yeah. I’ll let the rest of the group entertain themselves trying to find a glimmer of reason in that discombobulated mush you call logic. I think I’m done for a while.

  167. Hamous Avatar
    Hamous

    However I do point out that what the most oppressive, most dictatorial, most fascist countries in the world fear most, what they fear more than death, bombs, or invasions, is the free exchange of information and ideas between the people they oppress within their borders and the more fortunate free people living in the rest of the world.

    Yikes. You’re a walking dichotomy. You’re more than a bit disconnected from the reality of your surroundings. You routinely disparage our country when we attempt to export our good fortune and in the same breath call your fellow Americans xenophobes when they suggest it’s good policy to control our own borders. Last I looked there aren’t a rush of Americans risking their lives to escape from this country you paint as an authoritarian hellhole.

    There is no barrier to the free exchange of ideas in this country. It’s just that we have heard your ideas and we don’t like them. We are students of history and recognize that what you espouse, however noble your intent (and I’m no longer convinced of that intent), necessarily leads to tyranny.

    You lob derogatory buzzwords at anyone who dares disagree with you in a lame attempt to malign their character, then hide behind a veil of satire when someone calls you on it. Simply put you are nothing more than a cultural Marxist in anarchist’s clothing. Thank God the sane among us continue to reject your insidious dogma.

    Yeah. I’ll let the rest of the group entertain themselves trying to find a glimmer of reason in that discombobulated mush you call logic. I think I’m done for a while.

  168. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    This is funny stuff.

  169. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    This is funny stuff.

  170. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Since bob won’t answer what his closest experience has been in dealing with gang members is just allow me to say that pride more than anything else drives gang membes to sow the despicable acts they do. It has much more to do with the neglectful and often hellish homes they are raised in. Keeping drugs illegal has very little or anything to do with their hate and violence. It may amplify in some ways their violence on the streets in order to control the substances for cash but (a) legalizing it will NOT eliminate drug-based violence and (b) alcohol plays no small part in their violent activites. So bob is just a sel-interested fool for making my original post on the Latin King Goonies violently beating up several gay people into a war on drugs spew.

    Rather than “hate” I think their inexcusable behavior was a violent expression of xenophobia.

    That doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. That’s trying to argue that “hate” is an inappropriate term to describe the Latin King Goonies’ hideous attack on gays but “hate” is a better terminology to describe it.

    Oh, I get it, bob was just trying to to associate their mindset with that of social conservatives. Betchya that if members ofthe Latin King Goonies voted it would be for Liberals. But let’s just ignore that fact and be inspired by John Lennon.

  171. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Since bob won’t answer what his closest experience has been in dealing with gang members is just allow me to say that pride more than anything else drives gang membes to sow the despicable acts they do. It has much more to do with the neglectful and often hellish homes they are raised in. Keeping drugs illegal has very little or anything to do with their hate and violence. It may amplify in some ways their violence on the streets in order to control the substances for cash but (a) legalizing it will NOT eliminate drug-based violence and (b) alcohol plays no small part in their violent activites. So bob is just a sel-interested fool for making my original post on the Latin King Goonies violently beating up several gay people into a war on drugs spew.

    Rather than “hate” I think their inexcusable behavior was a violent expression of xenophobia.

    That doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. That’s trying to argue that “hate” is an inappropriate term to describe the Latin King Goonies’ hideous attack on gays but “hate” is a better terminology to describe it.

    Oh, I get it, bob was just trying to to associate their mindset with that of social conservatives. Betchya that if members ofthe Latin King Goonies voted it would be for Liberals. But let’s just ignore that fact and be inspired by John Lennon.

  172. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    Hamous #84 – timeless post. Congrats. It is the left that constantly puts forward the idea that there is a need for the government to control the dissemination of political thought via the public media. Yet they reject any concern by others for a need of the government to control any sort of trash they want to foist onto the public in what they consider entertainment. The left can not win the public via a free media. So instead they would force their diatribes upon us by either the courts or government regulation when clearly rejected by the elected bodies and the listening public. I will defend with my life the right of any person to stand in the public square and make a fool of themselves. But I can not and will not be made to listen to their inane diatribes. Any attempt to do so is tyranny and should be put down by any means necessary.

  173. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    Hamous #84 – timeless post. Congrats. It is the left that constantly puts forward the idea that there is a need for the government to control the dissemination of political thought via the public media. Yet they reject any concern by others for a need of the government to control any sort of trash they want to foist onto the public in what they consider entertainment. The left can not win the public via a free media. So instead they would force their diatribes upon us by either the courts or government regulation when clearly rejected by the elected bodies and the listening public. I will defend with my life the right of any person to stand in the public square and make a fool of themselves. But I can not and will not be made to listen to their inane diatribes. Any attempt to do so is tyranny and should be put down by any means necessary.

  174. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    Nowhere is the failed ideology of the left on display with greater fanfare than in today’s political advertising where the Democrats are all doing their very best to disavow their association with President Obama and the policies their party voted for. I recall Obama touting because of his life experiences that he would be able to solve the problems of the Muslim world, from Palestine to Iran’s nuclear ambitions. Remember how finding OBL was going to be his number one priority? Haven’t heard a word about that from the White House or Democrats for about 607 days. Now I will give you that he’s only been in office for 627 days, so perhaps it’s early. But with Obama bin Biden holding the reins, I don’t really expect to see any progress there or in international relationships.

    What the American people have clearly witnessed is that in spite of overwhelming public sentiment to the contrary, the left is more than willing to shove their radical social agenda and nation destroying economic policies down the citizen’s throats. This is why so many Americans are no longer using the term progressives, but instead substituting a more accurate expression: REPRESSIVES.

  175. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    Nowhere is the failed ideology of the left on display with greater fanfare than in today’s political advertising where the Democrats are all doing their very best to disavow their association with President Obama and the policies their party voted for. I recall Obama touting because of his life experiences that he would be able to solve the problems of the Muslim world, from Palestine to Iran’s nuclear ambitions. Remember how finding OBL was going to be his number one priority? Haven’t heard a word about that from the White House or Democrats for about 607 days. Now I will give you that he’s only been in office for 627 days, so perhaps it’s early. But with Obama bin Biden holding the reins, I don’t really expect to see any progress there or in international relationships.

    What the American people have clearly witnessed is that in spite of overwhelming public sentiment to the contrary, the left is more than willing to shove their radical social agenda and nation destroying economic policies down the citizen’s throats. This is why so many Americans are no longer using the term progressives, but instead substituting a more accurate expression: REPRESSIVES.

  176. Texpat Avatar
    Texpat

    Wow surely I aint the only one up and about?

    Bigs #’s 87-88 = spot ON!

  177. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    Wow surely I aint the only one up and about?

    Bigs #’s 87-88 = spot ON!

  178. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #83 B42

    Save your ears and I’ll save mine, as well as my time and my sanity. I have no interest in a prolonged discussion with you. I guess I basically don’t give a flip what you think.

    Regarding your social life, just making chitchat. No hard feelings. Some of your (shorter) posts are entertaining, but your long polemics are just flat boring.

  179. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #83 B42

    Save your ears and I’ll save mine, as well as my time and my sanity. I have no interest in a prolonged discussion with you. I guess I basically don’t give a flip what you think.

    Regarding your social life, just making chitchat. No hard feelings. Some of your (shorter) posts are entertaining, but your long polemics are just flat boring.

  180. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    I don’t like it when I have good vibes about the Texans before a game.

    Cushing: comes out like an uncaged animal, rusty or gonna suffer sophmore jinx?

  181. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    I don’t like it when I have good vibes about the Texans before a game.

    Cushing: comes out like an uncaged animal, rusty or gonna suffer sophmore jinx?

  182. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Big45;

    Yeah, man, good to see you.

  183. Darren Avatar
    Darren

    Big45;

    Yeah, man, good to see you.

  184. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    The Sunday Parade magazine — yes, in the HouChron, I still subscribe — has an article about Iraqi Muslims living in Lincoln, Nebraska. Is it just me, or do others also get the heebie jeebies seeing a picture of a woman wearing that black shroud in a civilized Western country?

    I don’t know the terminology for all the wraps and covers that Muslim women permit themselves to be shrouded in, but this is the one where the only skin showing is between the chin and the eyebrows. The rest of the family in this particular shot are all wearing comfortable looking Western clothing.

  185. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    The Sunday Parade magazine — yes, in the HouChron, I still subscribe — has an article about Iraqi Muslims living in Lincoln, Nebraska. Is it just me, or do others also get the heebie jeebies seeing a picture of a woman wearing that black shroud in a civilized Western country?

    I don’t know the terminology for all the wraps and covers that Muslim women permit themselves to be shrouded in, but this is the one where the only skin showing is between the chin and the eyebrows. The rest of the family in this particular shot are all wearing comfortable looking Western clothing.

  186. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    I read an article, which I can’t find at this moment, that talked about how women were supposed to keep their sexual organs covered. The hijab and niqab, which would cover the woman from top to bottom, obviously push the point that in Islam, the woman’s whole body is a sex organ.

    Or, in other words, Muslim men are incapable of controlling themselves, and are not responsible for their actions should a piece of “raw meat” rove into view.

  187. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    I read an article, which I can’t find at this moment, that talked about how women were supposed to keep their sexual organs covered. The hijab and niqab, which would cover the woman from top to bottom, obviously push the point that in Islam, the woman’s whole body is a sex organ.

    Or, in other words, Muslim men are incapable of controlling themselves, and are not responsible for their actions should a piece of “raw meat” rove into view.

  188. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    #93 mjh42
    You’re not the only one. At least the woman you’re talking about has an outfit like an old-style nun and not the full-on tent.

  189. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    #93 mjh42
    You’re not the only one. At least the woman you’re talking about has an outfit like an old-style nun and not the full-on tent.

  190. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #94, #95

    TT – Hmm, overly revealing clothes are the other side of that shrouded coin. Bikinis are fine at the beach, but a lot of Western young women do dress slutty. I think we would all agree that the sex organs should be covered in public. I just don’t get the obsessive wrappings.

    WB – I would never criticize the garb of a nun, but this gal is presumably a housewife & living here in the USA.

  191. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #94, #95

    TT – Hmm, overly revealing clothes are the other side of that shrouded coin. Bikinis are fine at the beach, but a lot of Western young women do dress slutty. I think we would all agree that the sex organs should be covered in public. I just don’t get the obsessive wrappings.

    WB – I would never criticize the garb of a nun, but this gal is presumably a housewife & living here in the USA.

  192. Southern Tragedy Avatar
    Southern Tragedy

    Tony Stewart Wins!! Yess!

  193. GJT Avatar
    GJT

    Tony Stewart Wins!! Yess!

  194. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Evening all, 20 reasons I’m voting democrat

    20) I really want to experience Greece, but I hate traveling — StickeeNotes
    19) Because the GOP are Talibans. I don’t vote for Talibans or Sharks with Hitler’s brain in them. My 2 main rules — AlanGraysonSays
    18) Because I Demand the American Dream…and some other Sucker to pay for it… — redostoneage
    17) Because of three little words: Head injury. — NotBobMcNair
    16) They said they’d rob me last — IMAO_
    15) Because we still have too many jobs in this country. — Snaqwells
    14) Because those Nazi & KKK loving Rethuglican Fascists are mean and call people names! — johnhawkinsrwn
    13) If democrats EVER get power in this country they’ll end all war and close Gitmo — NotBobMcNair
    12) When I drive, I like knowing that my car was designed by lawyers and assembled by a union. — iowahawkblog
    11) Because basically, I’m too lazy to move to China… — redostoneage
    10) Why visit the 3rd World when I can live in it? — tommccammon
    9) Because we must never return to the Bush-Cheney nightmare of debt, war, and 7% unemployment — iowahawkblog
    8) Because the Soviet Union would have worked with the right people in charge & we’re going to prove it — johnhawkinsrwn
    7) Voting for a black man excuses my rampant anti-semitism. — tommccammon
    6) Because Democrats care so much about poor people they want everyone to be poor. — whotnaught
    5) Because I believe this country is headed in the right direction…toward destruction. — darrinyeager
    4) Because I want to flaunt my vajazzled nether regions at the office, then sue you for looking. — JennQPublic
    3) Because Democrats fund programs for the mentally challenged, such as making them Speaker of the House — iowahawkblog
    2) Because Republican women are smart, gorgeous, witty and classy….and I hate them for it. — Furrystoat
    1) Because socialism is 0-58 vs. the spread since 1917… come on dude, it is DUE — iowahawkblog

    http://rightwingnews.com/2010/10/the-top-20-reasons-why-im-voting-democrat/
    ht: The right network

  195. texanadian Avatar
    texanadian

    Evening all, 20 reasons I’m voting democrat

    20) I really want to experience Greece, but I hate traveling — StickeeNotes
    19) Because the GOP are Talibans. I don’t vote for Talibans or Sharks with Hitler’s brain in them. My 2 main rules — AlanGraysonSays
    18) Because I Demand the American Dream…and some other Sucker to pay for it… — redostoneage
    17) Because of three little words: Head injury. — NotBobMcNair
    16) They said they’d rob me last — IMAO_
    15) Because we still have too many jobs in this country. — Snaqwells
    14) Because those Nazi & KKK loving Rethuglican Fascists are mean and call people names! — johnhawkinsrwn
    13) If democrats EVER get power in this country they’ll end all war and close Gitmo — NotBobMcNair
    12) When I drive, I like knowing that my car was designed by lawyers and assembled by a union. — iowahawkblog
    11) Because basically, I’m too lazy to move to China… — redostoneage
    10) Why visit the 3rd World when I can live in it? — tommccammon
    9) Because we must never return to the Bush-Cheney nightmare of debt, war, and 7% unemployment — iowahawkblog
    8) Because the Soviet Union would have worked with the right people in charge & we’re going to prove it — johnhawkinsrwn
    7) Voting for a black man excuses my rampant anti-semitism. — tommccammon
    6) Because Democrats care so much about poor people they want everyone to be poor. — whotnaught
    5) Because I believe this country is headed in the right direction…toward destruction. — darrinyeager
    4) Because I want to flaunt my vajazzled nether regions at the office, then sue you for looking. — JennQPublic
    3) Because Democrats fund programs for the mentally challenged, such as making them Speaker of the House — iowahawkblog
    2) Because Republican women are smart, gorgeous, witty and classy….and I hate them for it. — Furrystoat
    1) Because socialism is 0-58 vs. the spread since 1917… come on dude, it is DUE — iowahawkblog

    http://rightwingnews.com/2010/10/the-top-20-reasons-why-im-voting-democrat/
    ht: The right network

  196. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #23 TT

    we’ll flip the country of Mexico upside down. Then we’ll have a fence.

    Except that we have a much longer border with Mexico than they have on the south — mostly with Guatemala. So the flip wouldn’t give us a complete fence.But at least there would be less of Mexico butted up against us.

  197. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    #23 TT

    we’ll flip the country of Mexico upside down. Then we’ll have a fence.

    Except that we have a much longer border with Mexico than they have on the south — mostly with Guatemala. So the flip wouldn’t give us a complete fence.But at least there would be less of Mexico butted up against us.

  198. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    100

  199. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    100

  200. Katfish Avatar
    Katfish

    I would never criticize the garb of a nun, but this gal is presumably a housewife & living here in the USA.

    I didn’t take your comment as a criticism of nuns or anyone else other than the women who think their religion compels them to walk around wearing a Coleman 3-person tent so that their male relatives won’t go wild with lust over seeing an exposed elbow, which would cause them to come down with SPJS (Sudden Personal Jihad Syndrome) and go blow up a school bus full of kids or a crowded marketplace somewhere.

  201. wagonburner Avatar
    wagonburner

    I would never criticize the garb of a nun, but this gal is presumably a housewife & living here in the USA.

    I didn’t take your comment as a criticism of nuns or anyone else other than the women who think their religion compels them to walk around wearing a Coleman 3-person tent so that their male relatives won’t go wild with lust over seeing an exposed elbow, which would cause them to come down with SPJS (Sudden Personal Jihad Syndrome) and go blow up a school bus full of kids or a crowded marketplace somewhere.

  202. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    I just meant, I can understand the full cover on a nun, a religious virgin. But on a wife & mother, it just doesn’t compute. Modest dress, yes, amen sister. The tent? A lot wrong with those people & their culture.

  203. mharper42 Avatar
    mharper42

    I just meant, I can understand the full cover on a nun, a religious virgin. But on a wife & mother, it just doesn’t compute. Modest dress, yes, amen sister. The tent? A lot wrong with those people & their culture.

  204. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    Except that we have a much longer border with Mexico than they have on the south — mostly with Guatemala. So the flip wouldn’t give us a complete fence.But at least there would be less of Mexico butted up against us.

    Okay, so Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas would have Pacific Ocean borders. We could then deal with Guatemala to build a new canal, and the Chinese would lose a whole lot of money operating the Panama Canal. And I don’t think Guatemala would be so forgiving of Mexicans trying to cross their southern border!

  205. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    Except that we have a much longer border with Mexico than they have on the south — mostly with Guatemala. So the flip wouldn’t give us a complete fence.But at least there would be less of Mexico butted up against us.

    Okay, so Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas would have Pacific Ocean borders. We could then deal with Guatemala to build a new canal, and the Chinese would lose a whole lot of money operating the Panama Canal. And I don’t think Guatemala would be so forgiving of Mexicans trying to cross their southern border!

  206. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    I see from a story linked on Drudge that Cheney was able to pack a 10,000 seat event.

    How many were supposed to be in TBO’s failed speech? 650? I notice that he’s sticking to college campi now. The young and foolish are the only ones he’s able to find in large enough numbers to keep him from looking like such a loser.

  207. Tedtam Avatar
    Tedtam

    I see from a story linked on Drudge that Cheney was able to pack a 10,000 seat event.

    How many were supposed to be in TBO’s failed speech? 650? I notice that he’s sticking to college campi now. The young and foolish are the only ones he’s able to find in large enough numbers to keep him from looking like such a loser.

  208. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #98 Texanadian, I’m voting straight ticket republican in November because every day I tremble in fear about the possibility that a pregnant lesbian Mexican Muslim narco-terrorist might sneak across the border with a suitcase nuke, sell meth to my kids, drop the anchor baby, blow up the hospital, and marry my sister.

    And I don’t even have a sister.

  209. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    #98 Texanadian, I’m voting straight ticket republican in November because every day I tremble in fear about the possibility that a pregnant lesbian Mexican Muslim narco-terrorist might sneak across the border with a suitcase nuke, sell meth to my kids, drop the anchor baby, blow up the hospital, and marry my sister.

    And I don’t even have a sister.

  210. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #86 Darren, do you dare to deny that the horrible and inexcusable violence related to the abject stupidity that was alcohol prohibition declined substantially after that failed experiment of overreaching government authoritah was ended?

    (a) legalizing it will NOT eliminate drug-based violence and (b) alcohol plays no small part in their violent activites. So bob is just a sel-interested fool for making my original post on the Latin King Goonies violently beating up several gay people into a war on drugs spew.

    Twist my words however you wish. But you sir, whether you are man enough to accept it or not, are still proportionately responsible for the violence, death, destruction, and harm to families that results from your completely irrational continued support of an expensive war that has raged for 40+ years with pitifully few positives and negatives piled mountains high. Your ignorance of its failures does not spare you that responsibility. It is real, and quite tangible.

    What’s your closest experience with gang members?

    Pending your acceptance of the responsibility that you have earned, I’ll briefly address your question with this query. Holy Crap dude~! On which side of the tracks did you grow up? You don’t in any way sound like the neighbors of my youth. You sound more like the pompous windbags that held them down.

  211. bob42 Avatar
    bob42

    #86 Darren, do you dare to deny that the horrible and inexcusable violence related to the abject stupidity that was alcohol prohibition declined substantially after that failed experiment of overreaching government authoritah was ended?

    (a) legalizing it will NOT eliminate drug-based violence and (b) alcohol plays no small part in their violent activites. So bob is just a sel-interested fool for making my original post on the Latin King Goonies violently beating up several gay people into a war on drugs spew.

    Twist my words however you wish. But you sir, whether you are man enough to accept it or not, are still proportionately responsible for the violence, death, destruction, and harm to families that results from your completely irrational continued support of an expensive war that has raged for 40+ years with pitifully few positives and negatives piled mountains high. Your ignorance of its failures does not spare you that responsibility. It is real, and quite tangible.

    What’s your closest experience with gang members?

    Pending your acceptance of the responsibility that you have earned, I’ll briefly address your question with this query. Holy Crap dude~! On which side of the tracks did you grow up? You don’t in any way sound like the neighbors of my youth. You sound more like the pompous windbags that held them down.

  212. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    You sound more like the pompous windbags that held them down.

    Wow Bob! What oppressive country did you grow up in?

  213. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    You sound more like the pompous windbags that held them down.

    Wow Bob! What oppressive country did you grow up in?

  214. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    And I don’t even have a sister.

    LOL! Your sister said she didn’t have a brother either.

  215. Big45Iron Avatar
    Big45Iron

    And I don’t even have a sister.

    LOL! Your sister said she didn’t have a brother either.

  216. OletimerLin Avatar
    OletimerLin

    #107/108 Bigs! I’m glad to see that you’re healthy enough to be your usual feisty self. Keep it up dude.

    I grew up in the same country that your did. Forever fond in my heart are the fat Cajun Catholic ladies that served up the free lunch at my school when I needed it most, and often had a kitty bag for me to take home at the end of the day. To this day I can vividly recall the aroma of the homemade yeast rolls that wafted through the halls mid-morning as they baked.

    For them it was an act of pure love. For me it was pretty much guaranteed fish on Friday’s, and a very welcome supplement to my sustenance.

    The Blues Brothers defined a “wish sandwich” as having two pieces of bread and wishing for some meat. I disagree with them, and point out that two slices of bread fresh out of the toaster, squirted with a packet of ketchup saved from a outing at Chez-McDonald tastes pretty damn good when you’re hungry.

    Seriously folks, try such a sandwich sometime. You will not be disappointed.

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    bob42

    #107/108 Bigs! I’m glad to see that you’re healthy enough to be your usual feisty self. Keep it up dude.

    I grew up in the same country that your did. Forever fond in my heart are the fat Cajun Catholic ladies that served up the free lunch at my school when I needed it most, and often had a kitty bag for me to take home at the end of the day. To this day I can vividly recall the aroma of the homemade yeast rolls that wafted through the halls mid-morning as they baked.

    For them it was an act of pure love. For me it was pretty much guaranteed fish on Friday’s, and a very welcome supplement to my sustenance.

    The Blues Brothers defined a “wish sandwich” as having two pieces of bread and wishing for some meat. I disagree with them, and point out that two slices of bread fresh out of the toaster, squirted with a packet of ketchup saved from a outing at Chez-McDonald tastes pretty damn good when you’re hungry.

    Seriously folks, try such a sandwich sometime. You will not be disappointed.

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